Surprise! Dormant Black Hole Found "Near" the Solar System and It's Huge!
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about a discovery of Gaia BH3 - an unexpected and massive black hole near the Sun
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Nearest black hole: • Closest To Earth Black...
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0:00 new black hole!
0:15 Historical bet between Hawking and Thorne
1:00 First confirmed black hole Cygnus X-1
3:30 New surprise from Gaia - dormant black hole Gaia BH3
5:30 Discoveries about the star
6:30 Hypothesis confirmation
7:20 More data soon
7:40 Part of an ancient stellar stream
8:10 Conclusions
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NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition... or dormant black holes relatively close to the solar system.
But we do expect Anton's viewers to make clever comments like this one.
beat me to it 😂
My chief weapon is surprise, surprise and an unstoppable gravity!
Black Americans will get reparations before we find planet x
Or Hawking to be a reoccurring visitor to Epstein's island.
The fact the gov wants to shut down our only xray telescope for "budget reasons" genuinely pisses me off
Suspect, no?
@@cmb3915NASA has a lot of expensive projects, and comparatively not a lot of budget. Chandra is 25 years old and starting to decay, it is time to start looking at where the money might be better spent. It's unfortunate that NASA has decided to end it so abruptly, but the end has been coming for a while now.
A species so chaotic will die off on the ground where they born..
I could use the help... Like how come laborers like me get no help... All u rich folks man and nobody does a thing for me...
The telescope is allready up there, its not like they have to unplug it cause they cant pay the electrical bill anymore xD
If they cut the funding, the thing will probably be made accessible for universities to do science on or something like that.
One model, a ways back, suggested about 10 million unseen blackholes should be wandering around the Milkyway...
I believe it. There's probably a few closer to us. But still wouldn't pose a problem.
So not all that many in the grand scheme of things.
@@vladskiobi Apparently about 100 billion stars in the milky way.. so one unseen blackhole for every 10,000 stars?
@@peterd9698 About that, yeah. Like I said, not many at all.
And of course that's speculation, and in fact every black hole is speculative, though they are usually talked about as if they certainly exist, because cosmologists and astrophysicists long ago gave up making that distinction.
A black hole is close enough to actually send a long term mission to. Exciting stuff for people in guessing about 5 to 8k years.
Surely by then we can figure out how to make them at home!
@@prophetzarquon1922 "DIY Black Hole Kit" ... Nope, I think that's a really BAD idea. OK, it would probably take billions of years for a human-manipulatable BH to eat an Earth-like planet. But still ... it's really not an idea I'd like to be the liability insurer for.
Exciting stuff for delusional people who underestimate the magnitude of the problems involved. It's hundreds of trillions of miles to the nearest black hole that we conjecture might be there... and we don't actually know it's there. Yet we haven't even sent a human to the moon in over 50 years, ~240,000 miles away. Nobody will ever travel outside our solar system and live to tell about it.
@@a.karley4672 We've literally already made miniaturized black holes in CERN, I think it was a two or three years ago. Was a control test to generate one on a microscopic level to study quantum physics inside the collider. I remember reading the news and thinking it was pretty reckless of them to do but apparently it went off without much trouble.
@@matthewcarroll2533A black hole of that size (or even comparatively much larger) would pose no threat. It’s too tiny: it both clogs up too fast and also evaporates because of Hawking’s radiation too quickly.
Very interesting work based on X-Ray detections! Good thing we have a dedicated X-Ray satellite, Chandra..... Uh, what? They want to shut it down to save money? Really? Really. Apparently someone decided the place to save a few bucks...was the NASA budget.
SpaceX should take over ownership/control over the underfunded NASA projects that are fundamentally necessary to science and humanity....
Problem is, SpaceX largely provides its services to the us government. @the80hdgaming
I heard that the original proposed budget for the Chandra telescope was only the cost of one F-16 jet and Congress wants to cut that budget even further; clearly advancements in harming and killing other people are far more important than any advancements in the field of astrophysics /s
@the80hdgaming No, they shouldn't. Giving control of any kind of science to a private company, especially an Elon Musk one, is a god awful idea...
As much as I agree it probably is for the best to shut it down with the whole WW3 thing looming
This shouldn't be too surprising. The gravity wave interferometers have been finding black holes of this mass since they started. I believe the first black hole merger they detected were black holes around this size.
The surprise is the location, and how recent the discovery of something so big as close as that.
@weatheranddarkness There are many more close to you that have yet to be discovered.
"In the constellation of Cygnus
There lurks a mysterious, invisible force
The black hole of Cygnus X-1
Six stars of the Northern Cross
In mourning for their sister's loss
In a final flash of glory
Nevermore to grace the night"
Neil Peart 1977
I'm a priest of the temple of Sirius 😁
@@gustavedelior3683 Well, clean up the temple your getting some visitors from the temple of Syrinx. 😁😁
RIP Neil. One of the best drummers ever.
Beat me to it
@@gustavedelior3683 What does that mean, what is the temple of Sirius?
I’m putting $5 on Planet 9 being a mini black hole…
I think that we would've seen the distortions earlier if it were that
I’ll see your $5 and raise you $10
@@m.i.c.h.o if planet x has the same mass as what people have been speculating it has and it's a black hole it would be way too small for us to even detect the gravitational lensing
I'd counter that with $10 that 'micro'/'mini' black holes don't normally exist (certainly not the notion of microscopic/'primordial' ones).
Its more likely us just purely sucking at tracking Trans-neptunian/Kuiper-Belt Objects, let alone anything in Oort Cloud which we barely have lvl 1 (out of 100) skill at detecting.
How about a planet that orbits a mini black hole which is in orbit around our sun.
I find myself amused at miss-hearing certain lines like "Ultra violent observations"
Misperceptions are the mini black holes of consciousness. The more attention they get the more they grow in size.
@@shatterthemirror8563 Whoa
That's something mad scientists do to their test groups.
yeah i heard the same thing and thought, "wait, astronomy can be R rated??!?!"
"Astronomy would sharpen us up, and get us ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence."
Just want to say thank you Anton for your *daily* uploads.
Can't imagine the time and dedication it takes research every episode.
a lifetime of education and effort from him means when the info comes out, he's just reading a pamphlet rather than trying to explode his brain still figuring things out. This process of saving time is generally defined as developing skills and experience, and counts as preparing for the future, so you don't need to sprain your brain trying to imagine the time and dedication it takes to do something simple for you because of your past time and work. Were you educated in america?
Anton, no one makes me more excited about astronomy like you do!
Bought one of Kip Thorne's books on black holes in the 90's. Written so a non science person as myself (went to business school) could understand. Not sure if would have had the smarts for it, but if could go back in time, I'd probably go for it and change my major. These interests have been with me since childhood, writing space stories even then. Thank you (wonderful human) for such a great channel.
Thorne's book also gives you a great history of physicists. He's a great writer.
I graduated HS in 1980. I considered pursuing astronomy, but didn't. I wish I had, the last 44 years were a great time to be in that profession.
@@TheMrTactdon't be upset, academia is horrible
@@asdfghjkl-jk6mu Meh. Is it really any worse the the corporate world? I mean I know the reputation academia has but I've always thought, kind of what you are saying. Don't be upset about academia, the corporate environment is just as bad.
@@TheMrTact in the corporate world at least you're paid well. in academia you are not. also getting funding for what you want to work on is extremely difficult. you will usually just follow what somebody else has
been assigned to do
Press f to pay respects to Chandra, likely going to be decomissioned.
There's a petition out to keep it on budget for upkeep and repairs, but it's not looking likely to make a difference.
f
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what? i know for a fact that akos bogdan has scheduled chandra time well into next year.
Yeah, not thrilled about that either - hopefully, something will change
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I taled about "black holes" in 1972. It almost got me kicked out of school until i got a chance to explain. I couldn't think of any other objects that could hold our galaxy together.
so what if dark matter is just goddamn miniblackholes in abundance?
Idk why but lmao, wouldn't even be surprised at this point
That is exactly one of the leading theories
My Dunning-Kreuger opinion is that this is true!
What if dark matter is time matter
2:24 woa woa woa, I had no idea a star could even become a black hole without going supernova! Could you make a video on this specific topic explaining it in further detail?
There was a star that disappeared without leaving any trace.
Collapsing into a black hole without novae was already possible in theory.
@@PieterPatrickI think it's the Primes, we need to find the Starflyer before it's too late!
Trust the science ™️
@@ssuuy Oh I totally trust all science, I just want to learn more about it :)
There was a time early in the beginning of the universe where the volume of created space was still much much less voluminous than it is today, the density of matter was high. That enables many small primordial black holes to exist. That and the other like other commenter said, some stars have the right mass and other conditions to collapse to itself completely
Thanks for covering this news Anton.
So... dormant just means that theres nothing left to annihilate? Id call that, "in ready state."
Hungry - so hungry. Just waiting for it’s next meal.
Imagine traveling to another star and accidentally flying into a dormant black hole because you had no idea it was there until it was too late since the gravity is too strong already
Very unlikely. The gravitational reach of a black hole isn't any greater than that of the star which formed it. The total amount of gravity excerted is the same, just highly concentrated the further you get towards the center. For instance if the sun were to suddenly be replaced by a black hole of the same mass tomorrow and continue rotating as normal the entire solar system would just continue as usual, just in darkness. You would feel the gravity from any black hole WAY before you got anywhere near the event horizon even in space. Now, you might have trouble if it's one of the theorized rogue black holes that are just flying around the galaxy, those things supposedly move really fast. Could totally intercept your course out of nowhere conceivably before course corrections could be done to avoid it.
@@cheeeeezewizzz I like your comment, but I never meant to infer it was likely to happen at all haha. Just would be a terrifying situation
Spinning
Whirling
Still
De-cending
Like a
Spiral sea
Un-ending
"Cygnus X-1", Rush
"Six Stars of the Northern Cross
In mourning for their sister’s loss
In a final flash of glory
Nevermore to grace the night…"
no thanks
no thanks
@@stevenmoore3480 It's OK, there's plenty of SPACE for the illiterate.
@@mikki-do-it It's OK, there's plenty of SPACE for the illiterate.
Neil Peart
Thank you for this video. I will keep it handy as trolls on social media claim a black hole is 2000 MILES away from Earth. You KNOW they will do this. Some RUclipsrs I follow said the dumbest things about the ECLIPSE. I expected them to check their car to see if the HAMSTER is ok spinning the starter wheel.
2000 miles is in our laps in cosmic terms. I think we would have noticed.
And the eclipse was fookin awesome! Worth the 6 hour drive.
That's why this is the only space channel I follow
I encourage people to find the hidden message in OPs comment by unscrambling all capital letters. It's shocking.
@@DILFDylFI can’t get the whole thing because I have a headache but you are right there is a message I got about half of it
I know just enough about space to know that when something in space is “near,” there’s practically never anything to worry about.
Cygnus X1 was on a rush album in 1975. That’s where I first found out about them
Absolute banger track as well
I was an science/astronomy nerd since 69'-70' so I knew already but.....
Major kudos to Rush for a killer musical track!
1977 actually. I'm too old.
me too! Been a Rush fan since 1981 when Moving Pictures was released.
Rush was the first thing I thought of. Now I gotta go listen to it.
I imagine there are millions of small undetected black holes in the Milky Way. So any future space travel needs to have a way to detect gravity ways or something.
Honestly the chance of accidentally getting too close to a black hole is negligible. Even if there are millions or billions of black holes, they are pinpricks in a vast sea of nothingness.
@@NataliePine slim but not zero
@@jesse76th96 Close enough to zero that it wouldn't be worth trying to detect. When the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies collide, it's unlikely that *any* of the > 1 trillion stars involved will hit each other. They're *that* far apart.
you would understand it visually when you are too near as it would distort all the locations on your star map
Thank you for everything you do Anton
Switch on camera and read script?
@@bronson1392 and share information with a positive attitude. if you cant appreciate that, then why are you here?
Dude this channel is like space exploration news (and other), you rock massively!
thanks for the information anton and i really look forward to more updates
A sneaky black hole, I also had a X-Ray and I ended up looking like a spooky skeleton!
You mean they found a human skeleton hidden in your body.
Lets hope its jets arent facing us. Would be a good explanation for one of those extinction events.
I wouldn't worry too much. The chances of a jet being perfectly aligned with us are so slim.
Speaking as a geologist, yes, that might be an explanation for *one* of the major mass extinctions in recent Earth history.
But, as a geologist, I'd worry more about the causes of the other 4 (or 5, or 6) major mass extinctions in the Phanerozoic's fossil record.
Worry about one event, or worry about the other large handful.
Worry about the one, or worry about the many.
Hard decision?
@a.karley4672 Your comment had remind me that its a matter of WHEN and not IF.
@@GammaFields Actually, in the relatively small number of stars pointing their rotation axes in the right direction (our way) AND close enough to have a significant effect, it very much is a question of IF not WHEN.
The population of suitable progenitor stars is fairly small, and the timing and orientation requirements are quite stiff. It is very definitely an IF.
That one of the 6 or 7 largest extinctions does not have a *detected* terrestrial explanation doesn't mean there wasn't one - just that nobody has worked it out. Yet.
Plus, of course, the necessary evidence might have disappeared down a subduction zone.
Meantime, we are, as a species, reproducing the causes of the #6 mass extinction, but doing it faster and harder than nature did. Which doesn't seem to worry people enough to actually *do* anything about it.
Love the "Terminator-style" attempt at a smile at the end.
That was a lot more chill than I expected.
Still waiting for that nightmare though:
"Surprise! Magnetar found near solar system!"
Oh, hambugers! D:
I hope we can save Chandra, since it is proving so useful after 25 years
Thank you Anton. Your videos are the best
You make the universe fun, Anton.
Thank you anton......I have no idea what you mean sometimes but you have elevated me in so many ways...I appreciate your insight into the universe
Apart of the whole video, the small mention that supernovae always kick the remaining black holes in some direction, was also super important and interesting!
To be fair 2000 ly is still really far away but close in galactic standards but it probably poses little to no threat even in the far future
Gravity decreases inversely with the square of its distance. (E.g. at 10 times the distance from a BH its gravity is 1% or 1/100th)
If there was one there could be more, closer that we just haven't seen yet. Could be one just a few light years away, sneaking up on us......
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd maybe sneaking up on you, but they'll never catch me! Never!
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4ydSmallest known blackhole would still be more massive than all the combined stars within 5 light years, so that would be hard to go unnoticed, especially with our continuous observation of Sirius via satellites, for even the slightest changes in angular momentum.
I mean there are probably still numerous unknown non-light emitting bodies out there, but relatively stability in orientation(for probably billions of years by now), is part of what makes them hard to find. We have like 13K+ stars moving with us like a river of stars within 100 light years. A blackhole not moving with the flow already, would easily disturb the stellar river and give itself away.
If you are talking about something small enough to slip through the cracks like a primordial though… all bets are off😂
I misread the title as 'Doormat Black Hole Found' - I was like, wow, Anton has real contempt for supermassive stellar objects
Many Thanks Anton for keeping my interest in Astronomy alive. I thoroughly enjoy all your videos.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙂
Fab as always Anton. Thank you
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you, Anton!
I completely agree with you, Anton.
I remember when I was in school and they were just figuring out that Cygnus X-1 was indeed a black hole, but they still weren’t sure.
I've been looking forward to Anton addressing this!
Thank you,, Anton. Very informative!
I am amazed at the pace of discovery and cataloguing of what's out there.
Cygnus X-1 the last track on the Rush Rush A Farewell to kings album. It was my absolute favorite song of 1977. With the second installment on the 1978 Hemispheres album. A legendary storyline from an extraordinary talented Canadian band. The story is worth checking out. Thanks Anton
So what are the chances that the missing "dark matter" in the universe is just a shit-ton of "quiet" black holes?
If that was the case we would see multiple graviational lenses
Do black holes produce dark matter? Kinda like changing the ph of the space around it?
@@kreatureofhabit6378it’s wrong to say they produce it, but black holes might ‘be’ the dark matter, according to some theories. We can’t detect dark matter just like we can’t detect black holes, however we find black holes by detecting all the gas and dust orbiting them. Dark matter just being black holes is one possible explanation, however its not a widely popular theory and lacks evidence.
@@mainframeomega3154 definitely not
Excellent and informative as always.
... my favorite channel to come home to and end the day with!
Anton, just wanted to thank you for your down to earth and appropriately explained science videos.
I pretty much only watch your videos now. There is a new plague where most RUclips "science" videos are some idiot twisting facts into a story with tension, a buildup, and a climax. In my opinion, while maybe it makes science more engaging for certain people, it's turning it into a game and oftentimes spreading misinformation. A game to get clicks, make money, and say whatever needs to be said to keep their audience engaged. As RUclips becomes a more popular medium for science, more and more lies get shoved into these videos.
So again, you are one of the few remaining science channels that is respectable and trustworthy, so thank you
Gaia BH1 is 1500 light years from us. I think we're safe for now.
Oh really?? Anton's recent video "the most powerful explosion humanity has seen" described something 2 billion light years away.
That doesn't exactly make me comfortable about something 1500-2,000 light years away!!
Gaia BH3 is closer
He says its closer, but i dont see how is 2000 ly closer than 1500 ly
@@Idellphany According to the video, Gaia BH3 is _not_ closer to us than BH1, so where did you get that from?
@@a.b.d8927 Huh? Where did he say that it's closer? I just looked at the transcript, and I don't see him saying that anywhere in the video.
Simply fascinating - thank you Anton 👍🙂
Allways fascinating --- thanks for your wonderful reporting
Love your videos ANT ! ❤
The details of the bet were hilarious! The loser had to buy the other a subscription to playboy magazine! Hawking bet against his own work, and later said he figured if his work turned out to be wrong, the subscription would be a consolation prize. 😂
Wikipedia quotes the bet thusly, from _A Brief History of Time_ :
_This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine _*_Private Eye_*_ . If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of _*_Penthouse_*_ . When we made the bet in 1975, we were 80% certain that Cygnus X-1 was a black hole. By now [1988], I would say that we are about 95% certain, but the bet has yet to be settled._
_Private Eye_ is a satirical current events magazine.
@@davidh.4944Thank you, I was just about to get disappointed! Very helpful!
Think it was penthouse , it’s on the wall outside KIip Thornes office in Caltec
The band Rush wrote a masterpiece about this, it's nearly 40 minutes long, split between the two albums Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres.
Twist one up and spark it to enjoy it the proper way.
Love you content Anton!
Just glad that all the experts say there is almost no chance of one sneaking up on us and causing a disturbance to the delicate balance of our planets, since that has been a fear of mine for as long as I can remember.
Well to be fair, whether we can detect one sneaking up on us or not, it's not gonna make any difference since it's going to possibly slingshot Earth out of the solar system or rip off its atmosphere regardless of anything we do. I bet they wouldn't even tell us. X)
@@avereth That is why it scares the crap out of me. It's like the Terminator, it's unstoppable and just destroys anything in it's path.
Thanks!
85 comments and I am permited(?) to see 4 🤐 caste system installed for sense or ship? Sad state due to fisa 👎😐
Stay wonderful, my friend!
is there a NUMBER 9 on it anywhere?
That's some pretty heavy lifting!
Great video, Anton...👍
Thank you very much for this video Anton :)
So they Finally found planet X.
Not at that range.
Do you have a brain?
One step closer to planet XXX
Its not planet, its a black hole
Something with the properties of a hypothetical planet X, would be an extremely tiny black hole *inside* the solar system.
Weird. I just read the whole Stephen Hawking Wikipedia page this morning.
What about finding Planet Nine, which is surely a mug-sized black hole by searching for its likely satellites? Hard, I know, but we should not expect such a massive object to not have some moons, after all it's suppossed to weight x10 earth masses, right?
Black holes everywhere, I love it!
Great video,very informative, nice presentation,thanks 👍😊
Its kinda scary to think there are black spheres just wandering sround our galaxy waiting for feast on something
Don't worry, it's really hard to fall into a bh
Yeah it's not really scary. Black holes are not like vacuum cleaners lol.
If they’re quiet, they also aren’t moving against the grain of galactic river and probably have been in stable orientation with surrounding stars for billions of years by now, so not much to worry about until we’re interstellar trying to cross the gaps.
Send Voyager 6 probe, on second thought, don’t do that.
No, DO THAT! The timeline must be preserved!!!
How can you say that, when it's well established that we are the dark mirror universe?
;D
Long live the Terran empire.
As long as we still have whales we will be fine
Now I understand why Rush had a song called Cygnus X-1 on one of their albums.
Fascinating video! Thank you.
This is the kind of surprise that should have us funding space technologies and missions. We are infants alone in a wild, dangerous jungle and we need to start walking ASAP.
Yep stop the wars etc and start funding more into technology, we need to get out in space to survive
Everyone who’s a fan of the rock n roll band, ‘Rush’ already knows this.
Cant we sent Major Tom up there to find out?
This is fricking fascinating!
Wow! This is a really interesting video.
Geez, I got to get out my Rush stuff.
Do it now!
So they Finally found planet X
Planet X-ray!
This is probably one of the best content in RUclips history
Excellent science...congratulations Anton
OK guys, it’s been good knowing you!; prepare to be devoured!
You’re funny
Once in a lifetime experience
Do you even know how black holes work?
What a sick way to go 🤟😆
@@vladskiobi
Of coarse. They work for free and don’t care about anyone around them.
🎉🎉🎉
The ending wave with a smile has become a great cap to each episode. It reminds me that although fields like astronomy and physics are very serious toned, it's perfectly fine to enjoy them. The Cosmos is a very cool thing.
Very exciting to have this type of black hole in relative proximity. Can't wait for detailed observations of the system.
A huge black hole, near us! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
There are no "huge" BHs only stellar mass and supermassive. Informally intermediate mass and ultramassive are used.
🕳
That's really amazing news my friend!
How are you and your wife? Everything is ok?
Nice! I love black holes and I love that most scientists are foolish enough to think they don't exist (or they are not the right size, in the right place, etc.) Black holes are everywhere and they are Dark Matter (or most of it anyhow). They also do not disintegrate via (undemonstrated and unlikely) Hawking radiation.
The progenitor star of Cygnus x1 would have started its life around 80 to 100 solar masses as an early o type star something like O4-5V. It would have rapidly evolved into a wolf rayet star blowing off around 30 solar masses and ending its life around 40 to 50 solar masses. The core would also had been pretty massive around 10 to 20 solar masses at detonation.
Really cool. In few years we will probably have a time lapse of motion of this star around the bh3
*Pee pee poo poo*
You can see me... and also, i bet we normally pee pee poo poo within 10 min of eachother every full rotation of the 3rd rock
Attention seeking kids award
That's a bad mouthed kitty cat
Man that really sucks......
I'll see myself out.
Rush knew it was a black hole in 1977 on their album "A Farewell to Kings"
Was Bytor and the Snow Dog included on that album/recording?🤔
If it is a black hole, then it has a gravitational pull strong enough to not allow light to escape. By nature, a black hole can never be dormant.
I hope this isn't way off topic but there's a theory floating around that we actually live inside of a black hole since our universe is ever-expanding and black holes are gobbling stuff up and getting larger someone is saying that we actually live inside of a black hole kind of makes sense since we can't see the past the horizon
Anton delivering science news always puts me to sleep, and I love science.
Thank you Anton