The Entities that Exist Within Psychedelics | With Dennis McKenna
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Dennis McKenna discuss the entities that exist beyond our reality that users of psychedelic medicine have reportedly been able to contact. Together they examine the causation, the science, the depth of such beings, and how they truly correlate to sections of our own personalities.
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To hold a fresh psilocybin mushroom in one's hand is to possess the very nature of oneself. Their beauty meets their potency.
magic mushrooms has the ability to help heal the wounds of those suffering from reoccurring anxiety and depression and bring healing to them.
Results have shown that one or two doses of psilocybin mushrooms given in a therapeutic setting, can make long-lasting changes in people suffering from depressive disorders.
I learned more about myself on one trip than I have through over a year of therapy.
Y'all all talk about the benefits but you don't say where one can grab from...
dr.rinehartshrooms
No joke, I quit being a social justice warrior during a mushroom trip with a black friend. I couldn't stop thinking about offending him and mushrooms showed me not only how little he cared about me offending him, but how racist that sentiment was.
Bruh, what was the logic behind that ever though? Like why did you think being woke was good? Genuinely curious. Thank you!
Stay Woke
Yeah exactly it. Worried about offending them because theyre black, is essentially worried about them being black in the first place. When your friend probably didnt want you to view them differently in the first place and just as your friend. Tip toeing around anyones race is racist itself because it makes people feel alien. Ive experienced it and im not black
Welcome to the dark side. 🔪🧨
It took shrooms for u to figure out how backasswards all this social justice wokeness is. So very hypocritical. The "woke" are literally the MOST racist people and project all their racism onto the un-"woke". I call that being "awake". It brings me great joy to hear that u gained a clear view, a different perspective, and some common sense to be able to see what WE have been fighting for and against. Take care. Keep ur eyes open and STAY AWAKE.
I took a ‘heroic dose’ of 14 grams of fresh magic mushrooms.
I spent 8 hours in a different dimension, I was totally out of control of my body, arms and legs convulsing and twisting, the room and all solid objects were melted away. Once I closed my eyes and listened to calming instrumental music It went deeper.
I was told the meaning of life is art, that the goal of life is be good and move on, do good and move on… this narrative was on repeat for hours. Do beautiful things and enjoy the experience.
I spoke to multiple different entities, I see them as different alien races. I know that sounds crazy. But I could hear them talking amongst themselves on what I should experience.
They told me humankind is too fearful and all our actions are a response of fear. They think of us as Babies and they’re are guiding us. They told me they will introduce us to the other side of our reality but we are not ready for it yet.
I felt like a new born baby and they showed me that all humans are the same, I transformed from different races to different genders. This is the wildest part…. For a long period I was a FEMALE extraterrestrial living under the water somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. 😂 they were communicating with me by showing me how it feels to be different and how we actually are not different at all. There was zero malevolence, these extraterrestrial beings contacting me did nothing but care and guide me through it. I even saw the ‘greys’ but I get the impression that are not living, they seemed robotic and were controlling the experience - when it got too intense (at this point I’m contorting, weeping, but in absolute bliss being shot through the universe in a kaleidoscope of colours and sounds) - the greys would occasions stop the others communicating with me and a freeze me. I literally could not move.
However - this experience was the most life changing event I’ve ever been through. I woke up 12 hours later feeling completely fresh, awake, clear, zero worries or anxieties … in a state of shock.
There was a constant message of love and care. And they really tried to tell me that our perception of reality is so different to theirs which is why that can’t communicate with us how we are accustomed to.
If you survived this long, thanks for readying my rant, if you do decide to do a heavy mushroom trip then please be careful and do your research.
Crazy trip you had.
What strain did you take?
Crazy trip you had.
What strain did you take?
Crazy trip you had.
What strain did you take?
Crazy trip you had.
What strain did you take?
I'll have what ur having
Psychedelic mushrooms completely helped me get out of addiction and depression. It totally rewired my mind. Honestly, they worked better than antidepressants.
Psychedelics have the potential to make a significant impact on mental health issues like anxiety and depression. They've been incredibly helpful for me personally.
I've been looking to try some recently, but I can't find anywhere to source.
doc.coby is your guy. The best shrooms and psychedelics guy I know.
He's on instgram??
Yeah
Psilocybin mushrooms healed me. I can't explain it but my experience has been spiritual and eye opening. I also started micro dosing. It really helped me get rid of depression and anxiety.
I've been looking to try some recently, I don’t know where to get them, anyone?
doc.jeanne is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
Is on Instgram?
Yess
It's mind-blowing how psychedelic experience can be so individual and unique, even when people take the same amount at the same time.
Psychedelics have the ability to induce profound altered states of consciousness.
True, it helped me in facilitating deep emotional processing and introspection.
Do you know where i can get one? I really need this shit to clear my head.
I got mine from dr.stolly
Is he on Instgram?
Yes, Dr.stolly saved my cousin from bipolar disorder and some addiction. It has a lot of potential benefits
Psilocybin,LSD, shroom and ketamine are absolutely life changing substance that have so much potential to help people with mental health issues
Does anyone know where I can source them ?
Where can I find him is he on insta?
Sure dr_joelshroom
Psychedelic definitely have potential to deal with mental health, they really helped me.
Can he send me in New Jersey?
Psychedelics have the potential to make a significant impact on mental health issues like anxiety and depression. They've been incredibly helpful for me personally.
I've been looking to try some recently, but I can't find anywhere to source.
dr.tonyshrooms is your guy. The best shrooms and psychedelics guy I know.
He's on instgram??
Yes
I had my first experience with golden teachers, it was really great.
I had a psychedelic experience once that sent me to eternity and meeting the creator. My ego dissolved yet I was physically terrified. It's effect lasted long enough that I thought it permanent. It was so magical and so full of love, changed my life for good. In the most positive way possible.
Everybody is struggling with mental health and could benefit from careful therapeutic use of substances like these. Wanna try, but keep being told I can't do it alone for the first time.
I do respect and believe in psychedelics as treatment, yet I’m reluctant about using them personally. Not sure about how “good” it may do to someone
@@AndreAzevedo-cb7om First time I did mushrooms I did everything by the book exept for having a tripsitter.I trusted the process so much that I did it on my own.I did however have my cat laying next to me on the couch and boy did he get a big role in my trip.he transformed into this fable like version and was with me on my ride.for 4 hours straight he chilled with me and took me back to my childhood traumas where then the house cat was with me. its like all these things clicked and made sense in ways hard to describe. changed my life forever.it was a waaay overdue therapy for my messed up mind.
Since I tired psychedelics for the first time, I’ve been trying to describe the experience to others so there can try it as well, but i couldn’t find the right words to describe it.
I find it funny if there's any psychedelic therapy there online
Depression haunted my life from a very young age, and I was put on a bunch of SSRIs as a child in attempt to deal with it. None worked.Psychedelic mushrooms was brought to my attention. It was the first thing that actually had real effects. They should only be used with great care and respect.
I hear this is supposed to be good for people who have mental health issues. I actually just started the research process of microdosing and all that. Im to the point where I want shock treatment.
dr.perryshroom is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
Been through this conversation before. I can’t do anything without a proper medical professional following me.
YES, he is dr.perryshroom. There's a lot of potential in psychedelics
Psychedelic therapy treats mental health issues, anxiety and depression. Likely will be one of the most profound experiences a human can have in a lifetime
Psychedelics saved my life. They drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quit illicit pill addiction after five years of heavy use. It also got rid of my depression and social anxiety.
I’ve been looking to try out shrooms. Anyone knows where I can source?
Doctor.jeremyy is your guy. The best shrooms and psychedelics guy I know
I had my first experience with golden teachers, it was really great.
Psychedelic mushrooms completely helped me get out of addiction and depression. It totally rewired my mind. It's amazing how it worked better than antidepressants.
Of course, he delivers anywhere, and discreetly as well.
My dad tried DMT a while back and said the experience was so profound that he was scared but excited. He said he could sense there was another entity with him but that the entity couldn't fully communicate and he was also reluctant himself due to the absolutely bizarre nature of this meeting. But that he could sense the entity was frustrated with him because he was too diluted with other drugs to freely communicate with the entity.
He began doing DMT often and describing that it was almost like he was being studied on by entities whenever he would enter the trip into DMT as if they were trying to understand us as humans and the complexity of what's happening just as we are.
I didn't think too much into this until I used redit and started reading other people's stories. And Joe Rogans. I realized something absolutely profound is happening here and we are dismissing it so quickly as just drug commas. When the truth is our brains are what make up reality and how we inevitably perceive it. Our brains are a mixture of chemicals percolating through them to feel emotions or things. So the fact that just maybe if we amplify these chemicals to certain frequency or heights that it does in fact expand our concious into the locked away slivers of this universe and reality we physically occupy.
I'm big on shrooms but never took enough to have the kind of experience you have. But the experiences I have had were amazing and brought me closer to what I can only describe as the all powerful source or "God". Like I was just part of this world and not just a random concious being perceiving it and wondering but as the atoms in me. Were nothing different then the atoms in a stone or object. I don't understand why we can have this consciousness but animals seem to lack it. I don't know what makes us different or if it's coming from our brains or more likely the "soul" which I believe must be the eternal part of us that doesn't simply die when our bodies do.
My theory is that we all knowingly chose to be apart of what this expirement is. This physical material world that is full of complex emotions and feelings. That whatever source or part of whatever we come from created it for this purpose. I doubt humans are the only ones actively engaging within it. But the reason we can't remember this or know it when being born is obviously it would disrupt the active experience that is this universe. Same with any ongoing expirment similar in science and medicine
I also think the UFO phenomenon and ghosts or paranormal activities are part of the thing we come from seeping into this dimension or in the UFO case keeping eyes on us. This also explains there fascination with going to every nuclear power and shutting down nuclear missiles and disabling the ones they tried to launch into space supposedly.
I could be wrong. Idk. But I've done a LOT of deep contemplating on these subjects and experiences. And I've spent a lot of time educating myself and listening and hearing others theories and experiences. And have formulated my hypothesis as it comes to "existence" and "conciousness"
Why does evil persist? Why do bad things happen? Why is there sadness? Because without these things there's no happiness, good, love, and peace either. It has to have a balance. If you can't experience feeling sad then you take for granted feeling happy. If bad things didn't happen you wouldn't care to realize and cherish when good ones do.
But understand nothing is black and white. This reality is complex. The intricacy of it is beyond anything we can comprehend in full. I think the only way to get there is to slowly uncover and digest it overtime. This is in fact the human experience between emotions and understanding. We'll adapt to each thing as it comes along. But can't adapt overnight to a complete game changing reality shift. I don't know the actual purpose of this expirement or the end goal. I guess only the true end all be all of whatever we consider God to be does. No matter how you slice it up people some for of God exists its just impossible for it not too. Something or someone had to will whatever this is into existence. Something like the universe doesn't simply just exist randomly out of nowhere from nothing to something that's just not how it would work.
Is this thing a being? Is it concious? Does it judge? Does it have a purpose? Is there a end goal? Idk. It would be hella scary if the awsner is no to these things. Cause then what is this? Why does literally anything exist if it doesn't really have a purpose or reason? What is your life without goals? Pretty meaningless.
Just my thoughts if anyone cares to read. These kinds of discussions don't take place on your FB (trust I've tried get the hundreds of people I have on there to engage is such intellectual deep conversations but sad reality is they don't even stop to think about half this stuff let alone are jusy content not knowing) or Twitter or Instagram. Some does happen on Redit but mostly things like podcasts like Joe Rogans. Or Jordan Peterson etc.... Most likely If you listen to these guys you are very thirsty for knowledge and in depth conversations that are philosophical. We are indeed the Greek modern day Socrates and Hippocrates of the new world
Thanks for sharing
All these things u wrote makes sense. Only few people will take time reading ur comment and will fully understand it. Only guy on the whole earth I learnt all this from is Leo gura
Wow 10 grams fresh is like 1 gram dry
You know how humans have a tendency to name things as they are?
"occasionally psychodelic, "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine")."
Hare krsna
Coming from someone who has spoken with entities while on psychedelics and has taken more than they care to admit I think it's amazing that it's easier to write these experiences off as something that comes from within than addressing them as actual spirits or demons etc. I understand science wants to break everything down to a molecular level and write it off as something benign. However in my humble opinion the simplest answer is usually right and simply put you're opening doorways to the spirit realm and you're encountering the things that live on the other side. No beating around the bush and trying to deduce the meaning it just is what it is. There's other plains of existence i.e. extra dimensions of reality that we simply cannot perceive in our normal state of humanity. When the veil is lifted you get a brief experience/exposure to the real reality of the world we live in. I believe anxiety is a spirit just as I believe depression is a spirit. Where did the phrase "high spirits" come from? We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
@Leo Richard thanks but I don't mess around with that stuff anymore. I've come to believe it's not for us to enter that realm yet. When we die or pass on to the next phase of life we get to go there but I think we are meant to be here and have this 3 dimensional experience and to learn and grow from it. I'm done opening Pandora's box if you will. I believe in Jesus and have many reasons as to why I do and I'm satisfied. Again this is coming from someone that desperately sought to understand the meaning of life and ultimately everything led me to Jesus and I can't deny my experiences they're too real and too significant to be meaningless dribble my mind concocted because it was exposed to some chemicals.
@@shanebanx9631 hi Shane i hope you will still answer me after commenting on this 8 months ago, it would really mean a lot to me. Im 21 and from germany, my name is ben. As i am trying to figure out my life and to reveal what i would like to do with my time on earth i began having a conflict within me throughout this year. On the one hand i would really love to find jesus, i already read 3 gospels and i am praying to him every night for almost 2 years now. sadly i could not find him, i told myself as soon as i feel his presence in my life i will get baptized. Sadly i have never really felt gods presence and it is hard for my heart to truly believe what jesus did, as my mind cant fathom it to be realistic. On the other hand i want to get to know myself, i tried meditating and journaling to finally find out who i am and what i would enjoy doing professionally. Somehow i just cant seem to figure that out as i have found myself inside of one way streets over and over again throughout the last 4 years. I felt like psychedelics could maybe help me within that process. To me it sounds like you are having the journey i am about to embark on already behind you, therefore i would like to know if you think its worth doing? And if not, how can i figure life out only with jesus? Should i just get baptized? Honestly i really have no clue anymore haha
@@shanebanx9631We only have a fraction of what Jesus said. I recently looked into the lost gospel of Thomas. Found in 1945 in a antique library. It never made the bible . He taught consciousness and the importance of oneness. There is also evidence during the lost years age 12 to 30 he went to India and studied Buddhism. After reading the lost gospel of Thomas. I don’t doubt he did. Revelation BARELY made the bible. The structure of the book does not line up with the rest of John.
@@tracywatts1459in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Gods spirit says there is no union of opposites but says he alone is perfect we have fallen short he has given a conscience before revelation.
Wow, well written. This human experience is a very unfair one to a lot of us. Once we wake up and learn how this world 🌎 is really run, hopefully, you're financially stable. We've been forced into a monetized lifestyle of commerce. Oh, how I wish my spiritual side of this life experience just took over. Because this natural side has been very painful in all aspects. 😅
Psychedelics showed me that I wasn’t as depressed as I thought I was even during those hard times.. Literally made me at peace and that’s something that has stuck with me since. I haven’t smoked a cig since then either. It really puts you in true reality. A reality so deep that you would be deemed as crazy for sharing your thoughts.
To be clear though, psychedelics dont cure smoking. Ive taken enough to rival ozzy Osborne or jimmy hendrix and i still can quit.
@@cesspool1676 Maybe not for you but I can assure you that’s exactly what made me quit. It’s no coincidence that I smoked cigs all thru my teen years and soon as I finish the trip I literally just didn’t want another cig.. like they just never existed before. now I completely despise them ; can’t stand the smell and wouldn’t dare light one ever again. that was a good 5-6 years ago 🤷♂️
@@cesspool1676 I didn’t say it cured it. I said that’s what happened to me after I finally got my hands on some legit gel tabs. all my other trips were the typical happy , vibrant , hallucinations. But this one in particular was a whole spiritual journey for sure.. good & bad
I understand you when you say it puts you in true reality. My last trip I saw that mechanical clown they was talking about in this video but didn’t really look like a clown exactly but close enough to that. I saw that same entity when I was in the hospital almost died. After that trip it just made me realize how grateful I am for everything and how beautiful life is. It’s so much we don’t know about and that trip helped me see that. It’s a lot more to reality then we think
@@drewood4747 real shit tho.. can’t really explain it but I had the same feeling.. just grateful.. of course the visuals and all that goes away but the way it reset my mind still sticks with me til this day. showed me how to live in the present moment instead of letting the subconscious mind drag me down with negativity worrying about the past or future. I see people complain about small things all the time and I just can’t comprehend it.. life is meant to be a beautiful thing fr but unfortunately it’s evil people at the top who got a lot of peoples minds completely trapped. The people I did it with were close friends and I couldn’t stop thanking them for inviting me over for it fr. Changed my whole life literally
Mushroom was good to me
I know, right! It's mind-blowing how psychedelic trips can be so individual and unique, even when people take the same amount at the same time.
Can he be On instgram?
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
Can he send to me in Ohio?
If anonymous delivery is something you're concerned about, he offers that option. He can provide an extra level of privacy and peace of mind. Safety and discretion.
Psychedelics helped me deal with my addiction. Having suffered anxiety and depression as well. I must say taking them turned my life around. I started micro dosing and just in a couple days I noticed major changes in my stress levels, depression, and everything else. It's been really great. After battling with these for years, I was unaware that shrooms will save me.
I suffer from chronic PTSD and chronic depressed disorder and ADD. I need this in my life.
I'm happy for you. Psilocybin mushrooms saved me from 4 years of uncontrollable bad thoughts. After just a few dosages I realized mydepression and PTSD were completely gone. Imagine carrying heavy chains on your neck for almost half a decade and then all of a sudden
that burden is gone.
I recommend you hit up 👉🏻mushmistt, he's very reliable and ship to any location he's got any shrooms strain you need and other psychedelics like LSD and DMT.
There's a lot of potential in psychedelics, I
can't wait to try any of them mushrooms
specifically but it's just so hard to find a reliable
source over here
Can I find him on insta?
Psilocybin containing mushroom saved my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit. it has also helped me to survive depression
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again again but it’s just so hard to source out of there.
@Micheal Harris came across the comments about dr.chris345 and I must say he is a genius.
I’m feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety level. I am so glad to be part of this community.
Is he on inSta?
Tripping is not really bad but find a good mycologist who will teach you the right things you need to know
Dennis is just a great human being. He gave me his P.O. BOX address years ago to send my copy of his book to sign for me. I included a couple pages of descriptions of my Ayahuasca experiences and what I gained from it. He not only read it, but sent back the book with a full page thanking me for sharing with him and his autograph. I realized after sending it to him that I didn't include return postage. He was kind enough to take care of that as well. Nothing in it at all for him and it meant so much to me. He's just a great guy who genuinely cares about psychedelics and spreading their' gospel.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store his got his got Shrooms, psychedelics, alongside other products well Refined ships to anywhere discreetly.
He's on Instagrams also on Telegram with..
*Mycopete.*
Vince, very cool story.
too bad about the bot (aka Smart Jared)
It's interesting. My worries about this is that so many people into psychedelics are ill informed people who think that a psychedelic experience equals insight. Nope. You are still the same person pretty much. I've done psychedelics myself and did not feel it was for me. Growth takes time. I don't think there is a quick path.
I’ve been working with psilocybin for years there healing processes are mind blowing
My first experience with shrooms cleared my mind and I started seeing the world on a whole new level
Where can I get them?
Is he on insta?
I ain’t surprised his name is mentioned. I can testify to dr_xzavier, he’s good.
Doesn't heal you brother, it's a facade.
psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. Imagine carrying heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
Please does anyone know where I can get them ? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels, I would love to try shrooms.
Yes, dr.fredshroom
dr.fredshroom is the best, his been my go to for anything psychedelics.
Is he on instagram?
Yea he is... dr.fredshroom
Psychedelic shrooms trips can be truly life - changing . It's amazing how they can bring about positive transformations and have a profound impact on our lives .
I totally agree ! Psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics in general have shown great potential in helping people with mental health issues . It's truly remarkable how effective they can be in treating depression and anxiety .
Any good dealer? I seriously want to try out
I can say dr.laryshroom is the man for you
He has pure psychedelics products
On Instagram?
In my most profound dmt trip the telepathic communication was so comforting and they even answered questions I’ve had and it was THE MOST reassurance anyone or anything had ever given me (and my dad is my bff). Dmt made me realize that leaving this earth means going home 🥰🥳🥰
When you die where is your home?
I had telepathic communication on shrooms. It was awesome I referred to them as alien’s because it was beyond my comprehension and I couldn’t see them. One was shocked that I needed a plant to be able to do it. 😂
What questions did they answer?
I've never tried psychedelics and at times I find my self regressing to almost an infant stage, muttering and repeating I want to go home, I just want to go home. After much thought, I realized that that home is not on this planet or in this life. I feel life is a burden and I'm stuck here for some reason. I'm seriously think about some kind of psychedelics treatment to find my purpose here.
@@submechanophobia768 are you ok bro
I became a psychonaut thirty years ago taking mass does of mushrooms and LSD. I saw many strange things and experienced unreal synchronicitys. One thing that happened often was a small creature, like a gremlin would always stalk me and pop out of corners from my periferry and whistle at me to mess with me. I always interpreted it as a figment of my ego. However, it did seem to have a life of its own.
I did the same ugh crazy to say it was that long ago..really want to do it again..anyway..I had taken some shrooms we picked out in the pasture..first time I had done this...I went into the bathroom..looked in the mirror and my friend had to come get me after I had been gazing in the mirror for a couple hours 😂 but I was crying and had been speaking to a friend that had passed 3 yrs prior to this when I was 13..hard to describe the experience but I really felt like I had almost gone into the mirror!
It's a demon. Wake up.
@Mirtzee there are many faiths and spiritual beliefs on this planet. Without spouting anything from your particular faith explain why you seem to think you have the authority to tell someone with a different belief or faith to wake up.
@@DarksideoftheMoon79 he is right. Wake up. The bible explains this very well
@@DanicaPatrick-lr7hythe creature is not on telegram. Moron bot 🤖
My psychedelic journey led me to the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita as they did the best job explaining my deepest psychedelic experiences to me. It is more than "collective unconscious", we are all waves on the same ocean. Apertures through which the universe experiences itself.
Stop regurgitating Rogans ego, its cringe
Monism and the whole "we are all one, and one is all" belief system seems rather circular to me. It can provide a basic lens to view the world through, but they don't really answer any deeper ontological questions. It's all very superficial.
The same thing happened to me. I meditate and sing kirtan often. Sober (for now) but Vedic scripture and yogic practice usually brings me back to some level of my psychedelic awareness. The terrain also feels less alien now.
Om asato ma sadgamaya.
@@navadasha singing is where it is at! The universe loves music and song.
@@turbomunch yo this cringe brah
After a mushroom trip I no longer drink alcohol which is something I was having trouble with at the time. The anxiety you get while holding a handful of mushrooms contemplating eating them is how I feel when I think about drinking now. I'm glad to have that kind of emotional response now when considering alcohol.
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I took some lsd about 25 yrs ago and it seemed like something posessed me. I started getting thoughts that was like putting together a puzzle and every word I heard people say had a different meaning. I was completely removed from reality. I fought hard against it, and about a year later it was better but took over 20 yrs to become somewhat normal again and not get extremely anxious around ppl conversing because of perhaps ptsd from my experiences. I held a job all those years and endured a lot of stress but it’s what it is ☮️
I want to believe so badly. Here’s why I’m sceptical..
Sometimes when I meditate and/or I’m really tired, I can close my eyes and I see kaleidoscope-like fractals. Nothing crazily intense, but it is moving/morphing shapes that change colour - I can even manipulate them slightly.
Also, every now and then I’ll have vivid dreams. Dreams where I know I’m dreaming but I’m communicated with people there - people I’ve never seen before. Im asking them questions, I’m examining their faces - I can see every pore on their skin.
Sometimes in my dreams I can orchestrate symphonies. Full songs with multiple instruments (I can’t even play an instrument) with pitch perfect vocals and very interesting lyrics - honestly they’re amazing songs (I’ve ever woke up straight after before, remembering the song, and tried to hum it into my phone recorder).
So what I’m saying is, I think these “trips” might just be these types of dreams turned up to 1000. Like it’s just our brains interpreting things deeper than they are - it’s it’s way of protecting us and calming us down.
I don’t know man, as much as I’m sceptical I am still open to the ideas. Because something inside me KNOWS there’s more. There simply has to be.
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It's one of the few, if not the only experience that can't be explained
One can imagine what most other experiences may be like having had experiences that can be crossed over, but with a full trip....It's one its own level. Words don't do it justice.
@@Harker777 I can appreciate that, but what I hear described does sound similar to what I’ve experienced with dreaming and meditating. But again, by a far greater magnitude.
I want to believe it’s another dimension and we’re able to access it and tap in to a higher self. And it wouldn’t be fair for me to be conclusive without having experienced it myself.
But the human brain is the most complex thing on earth and we haven’t even learnt a fraction about that, let alone taking on the possibility of other dimensions.
But anything is possible.
@@BeforeThisNovember I hear you and I meditate and dream also. I'm not trying to get one up on you at all but just stating that this was an experience I could not have imagined nor be prepared for. What you see is remarkable but what you think and feel are indescribable....for me at least. The full experience is not of this world. What world is it from? I have no idea but one can understand how religion may have come about via such experiences.
I had Ayahuasca 3 weeks ago and all I can say is it defies explanation. In one ceremony I had an experience which was more real than any of the others. This was the 4th ceremony and throughout I was on some level partially aware of where I was except for one specific part in which I felt pulled through a dark vortex and emerged on the other side to see 3 small grey aliens standing in front of me. To say this looked real to me is an understatement, at this point I felt like my mind and body had been taken somewhere else. When I saw them I felt a sense of dread because the environment I was now in was also completely alien. I was in a dark room with an eerie green glow, there was even a mist of some sort in the room as well. The next thing I know I blacked out and then reawakened to find myself lying face down on a table with a hole for my face like a massage table. At this point the fear and dread had gone and I felt the aliens were actually very kind and friendly. Even though I couldn’t see their faces I could see their legs and hands as they were moving around me and one of them was giving me friendly hand gestures to reassure me I was ok and doing very well. I don’t remember how this part of the experience ended but again the feeling was far too real. When I first saw them I could see the texture and pattern of the material on their clothing it was that vivid. To be honest I’m at a loss for words
Man takes psychedelics finds out what no one knew before°
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It shines the entire history of world in a different light. And no amount of words can describe that other place. It's beyond human capacity to understand.
That's a trip!
Wow, how their clothes looked like?
@@diazpamor dark grey almost black. I couldn’t say what the fabric was but it’s texture looked similar to cotton / denim.
I'm highly skeptical of psychedelics, for a couple different reasons. One of them is that the one person I know who has messed around with them has a life that's utterly in shambles: she's estranged from most of her children and living with a live-in boyfriend after several failed marriages. She's in her 70s.
So...I get the idea that mind altering substances can open doors in psychological treatment, and I think that's a good thing. But actually seeking contact with spiritual entities in an uncontrolled high... spiritual entities absolutely do exist. Not all of them are good, and the ones that are bad are awfully good at misrepresentation and lying. They are MUCH higher order beings than us, and that means they're much smarter. I think our mothers' advice applies here: it's a bad idea to talk to strangers.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store.
He's on Instagrams also on Telegram with the below handle as...
Mycopete..
There are no spiritual entities only natural.
Some of them are liars, I'm scared of those ones.
These comments are just as interesting as this conversation, thanks to you all for sharing your experiences.
I can recommend you to this psyc specialist where I get my stuffs from..
He's on Telegr®️m
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I am wildly curious and I do wish I could take a peek for myself, unfortunately I did manage to put myself into an altered state many years ago and was informed that I'd no longer be 'allowed' to do that. Nobody will ever interact with me again like that in this life. I have had a couple of experiences since then (medically induced) and I was left alone, just floating in the void. I knew the second I got there that out of body is as far as I'd be permitted to go. I allowed myself to relax and enjoy the peace while I could. I really did appreciate the brief breaks I got from my body's pain.
I had this experience about 25 years ago and I was told to concentrate on this physical existence while I could. I suppose I have a lot to learn here and they don't want me to be distracted. I'll see the other side soon enough.
That's fascinating. Do you remember anything else about the initial experience before you were disallowed?
Why do you think they didn't allow you to go back? Very interested and curious about this myself but I have some fears about ever trying it. I feel like I might not be able to handle it.
In my youth, I ingested Peyote many times. I still remember the experiences and "entities" vividly. For what it is worth I read all of the books by Carlos Castanada, a number of them being written post my experiences. The books describe guides and entities of the shared experience, many of whom I encountered. It is impossible that the descriptions offered by Castanada could have influenced my encounters, yet the descriptions were concise. I also learned that these entities are to be feared and respected, as they are not always benign. I feel fortunate to have "survived" those experiences with no ill effects. One should consider with great sobriety entering the Shamanic realm carelessly.
No different than reading a horoscope
@@TheGuiltsOfUs ...an ego trip then.
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In the northern parts of Norway we have alot of liberty caps, and as far back as our stories go people have been using them for various reasons. I have taken them on several ocations and the one profound meaning that sticks out is, when we as a group of friends take them together, especially ones close to each other we experience the same things. The «high» comes in waves, with moments where it is really intense and moments it is not, the waves hits us all exactly at the same time, and dissipates at the same time. We call this «being on the same wavelength» or «på bølgelengde» on Norwegian.
As i have learned more about vibrations and frequenzy in my later age i also understood that we communicate with eachother on a level not understood by science yet. For the waves to hit us all at once, making us experience the same thing at the exact same time there is a connection on a level above the «common». I believe we are on the exact same vibrational frequenzy when experiencing this.
Making a product of nature, that has been used for as long as anyone can remember illegal is a crime against humanity. Not only that, but the propaganda about it being dangerous and makes people mentally ill is even worse. The big question is why? I have my thought about it…
Because some people overheat their brain and get stuck in a deluded state.
Why? Well that's easy,the governments don't want you expanding your mind and realising that their system you are trapping yourself in is bullshit.Once you've woken up to this they can't control you anymore.
Interesting experience. I also had a similar one with my friends in a cabin, on new years, some years ago.
We'd all receive these oscillating points of intensity, at the same time.
I could tell because it was really stressful and waves of anxiety washed over us all in this oscillatory fashion.
I'll never forget it.
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I had mostly bad experiences with psychedelics. I took LSD and mushrooms a few times each. I wouldn’t describe the experience as any more spiritual than some intense dreams might be. Could you decipher the truths of life looking back on what you’ve dreamt? And why does a spiritual experience have to rock your mind through the stratosphere anyways? I want tranquility and clarity.
I made it through my first 1hr long guided meditation yesterday. My mind became clear, no noise, no thoughts other than happiness of my calming experience and when I was guided to meet my better self. I went into 5 - 10 seconds of hallucinations. Seeing a figure present itself. I have done about a dozen of these meditations... completely sober and I have never done hallucinogens' other than these guided meditations. So, if drugs help easily achieve what I am starting to do sober. Is there something up with our consciousness that we are leaving untapped and unused?
Definitely big time, we are in the middle of a Consciousness evolution i believe, and in time its gonna ramp up. This even goes into how we are in or entering the age of Aquarius, and how we are evolving our knowledge the truth is all coming out, and so on. 💜
Difference is your experience is pure. Drug induced hallucinations are just delusions.
I have been doing meditations for nearing five years now and I receive these hallucinations all the time. Highly detailed psychedelic style visuals when I'm sober. It takes a lot of practice and development for this inner sight to become more clearer and it's good that you are beginning to tap into this power. Keep working at it, practice visualization techniques and learn how to control the ability.
Yes. I’m reminded of the concept that we “ only use 10% of our brain.
psychedelics are just blockers......there is usually an antidote that quickly brings people out of trips, or hallucinations. It has to be possible for people to reach them naturally. Heck, people hallucinate from starvation.
I feel that on some level every one of us tailor our personality to accommodate the personality of the person we're engaging, even if we do it on a level imperceivable by ourselves.
It is not a feeling. It is an observation. I do it too.
I cannot do this and I think it prevents me from having long term friendships, or hell, short term acquaintances for that matter.
@@smelltheglove2038 I'm not a doctor but to me when I Invision a person who cannot do this I imagine that they must be on the Autistic spectrum or something similar, to my mind it's a kind of survival mechanism that allows us to navigate through a life in which we encounter so many people, as you have said you believe your not being able to do this has held you back, perhaps you could do some research into ways that you can begin to change your way of doing things with a view to developing some meaningful relationships, Good luck brother 👍
So true
Yep. We all have Pisces somewhere in our astrology👌
What is your position on using psychedelics for depression therapy? I know it is a big question, but would appreciate your thoughts on this, as I have a family member who has been struggling with depression since her teens, now a college student. Thanks
i took shrooms and had a ego death trip twice. It definitely made me more humble, kinder and open minded. my sanity has improved after because i have become more self aware. My trip made me deal with my traumas face to face. Ever since my last trip, I have worked on unlocking new knowledges about being an effective human being by reading books. Psychedelics is not the answer to every problem but it’s always a learning lesson. Now, I have no idea how it will affect different people with different personalities and life experiences.
I had the same thing happen years ago.
It was like I had “forgotten” to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes during the entire trip:
which made me realize how optional both habits actually were.
I’ve never turned back & it’s been over 20 years!
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As a fiction author I totally agree that the brain organises information in terms of personalities, and can produce complex personalities very quickly -- a fictional character with a deep personality in a matter of seconds.
Thats the same as transism
My daughter, who is a professional artist and graphic novelist author now, when young would often come to us excitedly telling us about "what I learned" about some fictional character she created for a story. These "person's" were not something she created in methodically or intentionally.
I also remember a time later, she was perhaps 13 or 14 when an adult artist, upon seeing her art and stories asked her when I was out of ear shit, "what drugs do you use?". She told me after they left and was pretty disturbed by it, I was too... confused actually.
As a father knowing she has been experimenting with drugs, recently I understand she's been experimenting with harder drugs (I don't know what type), is also "transitioning"... my heart is wrapped around her and if anything happens further to her so goes my heart.
That’s no fun
@@RobertLBarnard That's terrible. Drugs and 'transitioning' are both extremely harmful -- transitioning being the worse of the two for permanent harm.
Too many people are being drawn into it when they do feel different from others but they are perhaps Aspies who should explore that possibility first, and come to celebrate their imagination.
The question is, are these produced or are they perceived? The irony being that both these labels are also either produced or perceived, so what is what to begin with?
I remember the McKenna brothers doing radio shows on KPFK in the mid-1980s, when that station was also running a lot of Alan Watts and Krishnamurti lectures. And good music as well. The analysis of these “universal archetypes/energies” and the definition of their substance is most interesting. I think the mind is unfettered when we dream, and we access vast amounts of archetypical information that is *mostly* too complex to translate into rational thought sequences upon awakening.
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I feel that we are simply in other dimensions.
new age bull
@@TheGuiltsOfUs Some of it is. Yet there is the possibility that the world is a lot stranger than we might think. Do you not think that quantum mechanics is stranger than fiction? Or a big bang is rather odd?
Before psychedelic. Money was my priority in achieving happiness in life but after taking psychedelic I'm just happy being alive and no more a slave to the system
My boyfriend and I were coming down after a weekend of tripping on LSD. We both saw Jesus on his closet at the exact same time and blurted it out almost in unison. He was hanging on the cross, crown of thorns, his eyes just looking at us with a combination of love and sadness at our choices. It didn't convert me, but it did rattle me lol.
if that isn't super relevant, I don't know what is lol
Why didn't that convert you? You certainly can't say you didn't try to reach you. 😕
@@jacintacox3239 I am a Christian now but at the time I was a teenager who was lost in a world of sex, drugs and rock-n-roll. We just passed it off as a shared hallucination and suspected it was demonic (ironic, I know) at one point. Now? I see that he was reaching out. Not the last time he's done it, and I'm fully a believer now. 😊
@@chelleb3055 so it may have ultimately actually played a role in your conversion, just not immediately.
@@jacintacox3239 Yes, it definitely did! Along with other unexplained "interactions" that convinced me. Happy to say I'm a firm believer that Christianity isn't a religion but a reality.
This man never ceases to open doors to insight.
Teacher.
He does help given an important perspective, but as intelligent as he is, that doesn't mean he's always 100% correct about EVERYTHING. I LOVE Jordan Peterson! That being said, never take the words of ANY man or woman without a grain of salt. Meaning, don't look to any one person for ALL the answers. Don't rely on others to think for you, but to help you learn and think about things differently than you would.
“Insight”.
Fella, I hate to break this to you, but reality takes A LOT more WORK to figure out than to just listen to a single mans perspective.
@@Aisatsana1971 fella, I hate to break it to you. But you're just one man. So in other words. Your perspective doesn't mean shit.
@@unclesam6386 makes zero sense. You need to gather a collection of information from a variety of sources. JP is speaking a lot of rhetoric here which is persuasive but not all that insightful.
Good try at a “gotcha” though.
It's your inner self. It's a representation of the oh so complex mechanics, processes and intelligence on a cellular and biochemical level. The entities are parts of yourself (of what you normally experience as you, thinking as a single mind or in form of an inner dialog).
It's like your cells talking to you.
The message is: Love yourself. Life is beautiful, biology is. Love your life. Care for life!
I agree, and the "demons" some people encounter are really negative vibes within themselves.
This is what I've sort of come to believe about it
@@jacksoncurtain9612 no they are literal demons Lol.
Spot on! We get to explore actual multiple dimensions and find ourselves in all of them
nice theory, but doesnt explan the experiences people have with these entities. The entities often are kind of investigating them like doctors or scientists. They talk telepathicly you dont need language. They ask what you are doing there in their world. People will have memories to this place sometimes like the world before birth.
To me it is a higher dimension, we go from the 4th dimension (a mental world) to the third, to make 3D experiences before our life here (incarnation = to go in the meat).
There are different levels of reality and we go up or down after every life.
This would also explain, why people can have a memory to a place they go to, although they have never been there in this life. They know where a specific thing is and can find this because the memory gets triggered. If it were only in their brain, how could the brain know? Through the unconcious mind of everybody? Or because they had another life on this place?
Can somebody correlate with this?
Sobriety has been really great for me
Fascinating exchange there. The only thing I find a tad regretful is that Peterson mostly refers to negative personalities, like rage, or mundane, such as thirst.
I tend to “encounter” personalities that are witty, facetious, curious, humorous, sometimes erotic. And I like it that way!
My guess is I have enough rage and OC disorders by default, my mind doesn’t need to go and build them under the influence of psilocybin.
I did however experience negative experiences, after watching stressful or hateful scenes in films prior to tripping. Obviously not a good idea... But luckily I manage to let them slip away. Meditation practice being part of my life probably helps there.
But apart from that, it’s really interesting to hear these two people talk on the topic of encountering autonomous personalities. Which I absolutely love about mushrooms.
What is common across the board is the feeling, visual and communication during break through experiences, with God. They describe it as a light of warmth and genuine love. Wrote a 10 page paper on it for college and it turns out that those experiences match those of near death survivors 😅
I went to a ayahuasca ceremony shortly after lol
No break through though
No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds. 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
My partner and I met Dennis McKenna a few years ago. He was so kind and present. He signed our copy of Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss 💯♥️
Some friends and i ate alot of ccc and about an 8th of shrooms a piece, there was 3 of us, during a strong wave of the trip we were experiencing we were all sitting at a table just looking at each other, having a conversation than one of us spoke an actual word and the 3 of us realized that we were fully communicating without speaking actual words, the word that was spoken aloud cracked like thunder through the 3 of us.. we than confirmed the subject of the conversation amongst each other that we were talking about telepathically....than my two friends immediately threw up in the sink and toilet... i than awoke in the rain crouched in the backyard under a tree... it was the hardest walk to get back inside i can remember...i watched static on a television for the next 5 hours... the trip and rolling waves of disconnect lasted for nearly 48 hours.. i ended up falling asleep about 45 hours into this trip, i awoke to my phone ringing and the static roaring on the tv it was a friend who had called me 20 times or so.. to tell me i had gotton this job at a carwash, but in order to secure this job, i was tasked with helping my new boss do some work on a house they were going to flip about 20 min away..... i flew out of the bed and ran to the bathroom and my pupils were still the size of nickles, i jumped in my car and flew 80 miles an hour to make it on time.. i was begging god to make thw trip stop.. i smoked nearly a whole pack of cigarettes on the journey there 1 after the other looking at my pupils in the rearview over and over and over again... i slammed a Gatorade when i got there.. and met ny new boss. He sais hey my names nick were trying to get this sump pump working in the basment but its full of water. Come on in and meet my uncle. I made the mistake of saying i had waders in my trunk.. which i did as i fished alot.. later found myself wading through this treachery to activate the sump.. horrifying..anyway that wasnt the worse as the trip had worn mostly off when i got to that point the thing that almost sent me into an endless tailspin of woe was walking into the house and meeting nicks brother........ who was an identical twin.... totally bout destroyed me... we went up on the roof and were going through some stuff that needed fixing and that brother jason fell through the roof and his leg went throu the wet floor below.... nightmare.....3 day nightmare.. 😅 thanks for reading.. so much more happened but these were some defining moments... 😂
Holy shit. I didny even know it was possible to trip 3 days straight
Had this experience twice
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
One of the uses of psychedelics is administering psilocybin to cancer patients, it allowed them to confron their mortality, remove fear and anxiety and to die with peace and equanimity. What a gift this is.
I've been microdosing on the batch of mushrooms I got from one guy online for the last few months for depression and the results have been immeasurable. The world has beauty again whereas before it was grey and painful.
This whole thing is pretty new to me, can I try 3grams?
@@alexmccole6925 who is this guy
How do I contact him?
He'll guide on the dosages on insta
I had not know much about DMT when took it and also encountered these biological-mechanical beings. Also got in touch with Indian gods (I am European) that I had not interest in before. But what hit me most was immediate feeling of being in place "where you are when you die and between incarnations" that absolutely blew me away as it was more like remembering it rather than discovering. For me it was a catalyst to grow up as a man, and helped much with anxiety at the time, but also was quite heavy experience that took me around a year to fully process. Never regretted it though.
where you are when you die & between incarnations.. can you expound further if you don’t mind? cuz me personally i believe in reincarnations as well but i always wondered how that whole process took place after 1 ascends the physical plane
Brother those are demons.
Those are demons. Jesus Christ is the only way!
@@trevonmoses It would be very hard to describe, it's kind of like a dream state but much more aware. I guess it would be the beginning of soul journey and much stuff happens that I could not witness anyhow. However being there I had immediate questions about what happened to me, why I am dead, I was wondering if I had some kind of accident in life that led to me being in afterlife. I was so sure about where I am, as it would have happened to me many times before. Imagine you waking up on the airport, you would immediately think that you were supposed to board the plane or something. Then there was experience of reaching something blissful and beautiful, that cleanse the soul. I guess it could be some kind of mechanism that makes you forget past life and rejoin with the God/One/Cosmos whatever you call it. Because I think it would be very hard for a dead person to get in terms with being dead, with no body, no loved-ones and in some strange plane that cannot be described really with our three-dimensional thinking. I remember bright yellow-red colors but I think it was just my brain desperately trying to catch up with it, as it could not be treated as "seeing" rather than "being". It is not made of anything you know, brother :)
@@jakimany word yea thank you so much for sharing ya experience!
He says all that without saying demon or spirit
Has anyone had what I can only describe as having a part of my brain go offline and feeling a direct connection to another entity or being literally trying to control me like a virtual game? They wanted me to “end it”I asked why they would do this to another being but to them, we were just a game. I had a very sad experience with this whole thing, and it was revealed that everyone here was just a type of game character being manipulated. Im pretty unsettled about it.
I did ibogaine and 5meodmt this month in a last ditch effort to kick a 5 year fentanyl habit and it was the best decision I could of done. Completely kicked it with zero craving and no residual withdraw. Psychedelic therapy works 100% and will put that up against any type of rehabilitative resources
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@snubby6684 wow this is an incredibly interesting point of view & an extremely lucky experience for yourself to have had. The reason why I say your experience is so incredibly interesting is due to myself having thought of this as something that would benefit me, as my own personal obstacle that almost mirrors that of your own (however heroin addiction for 15yrs then crossed over with a prescribed methadone addiction that has now lasted for 13yrs, 100mgs every day. Essentially, my addiction is still remaining strong with my physical body while also connecting the addiction to my psychological aspects still remains as I have not yet found my inner courage & strength to reduce my dose to quit this lifetime addiction & habit. Truthfully I'm absolutely terrified to face such a long-term nightmare that I would if I stopped. Withdrawaling both physically & mentally & the fear of going through something like that literally terrifys me beyond comprehension. The only thing that I have truly considered is going this route, however I'm in Australia & not only do I know nobody who is genuinely familiar & accustomed to mushrooms but I literally wouldn't have a clue where to begin in undertaking such a life altering journey.😢 but I'm genuinely thrilled to hear from someone who had real success with this method to finally have freedom from the thing that was pulling you under.
I've tripped quite a bit many years ago. It is sublime; indescribable; and, in many ways, life changing. Though I never went full DMT or massive dose Psilocybin "break through" to entity world (visually), I left this one many times. I always knew though that the experience and knowledge I "received" was simply due to my brain interacting with itself in a new way: conscious to subconscious, and my perception of inner and outer worlds being chemically / physiologically rearranged via a substance. It awakens the longing for that transcendent something, that magic at the heart of everything, but I was always somewhat saddened on comedown that elves and Narnia or Middle Earth didn't really exist - in either physical or spiritual reality. (though of course we may have genuine visitation from non physical inteligences or communication with these spirits - angels or demons - from the objective spiritual universe "outside" our minds - whether on hallucinogens or not)
Not too long afer this period of my life, and out of the blue and not because I was needy (my life was great) or under any influence of any substance, my innermost being - my spirit - encountered God. I personally encountered the Personal God in the Person of Christ the Son and Word.
It was so real. He was / is so real. My heart melted and my mind was blown. I came home to the joy and peace of touching the ground of absolute reality. By grace, and by Divine revelation alone, I saw Him with the eyes of my heart. Deep called unto deep... Spirit to spirit... He filled my soul and body with a knowledge that no created thing or interaction (personal or chemical, inteligable or physical) had ever come close to. More sane. More myself. More real than anything was my encounter with His Uncreated Spirit. The Love of God transformed my life in an eternal second. I am loved... and so be you X
(Hope this maybe helps someone)
"Seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened unto you"...
"I am the door" - the Lord Jesus Christ
(Tolkein and Lewis came to know him too)
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Wow! Amen! Same here! People seek out signs and experiences when God is right here right now all the time. It takes new eyes to see. Wanna hear the voice of God? Open that Bible! Want to hear legit prophecy that come true all the time? Read that Bible! Through our faith and the indwelling of God's own Holy Spirit, all things are totally illuminated in their true forms. We are able to discern light from dark and indeed deep then calls unto deep! Not everyone has that. I'm over here balling my eyes out because it's rare to see some "get it", and you sound like you get it. I used to be quite the psychonaut and I have talked to demons in real life and in dreams. I have seen short "grey aliens" on shrooms during an OBE, and have lived an entire life as the antichrist on DXM. I've broken through on DMT and never saw an entity, but I sure DID see the little mayan elf looking demon guys running all over my room on a light dose of dmt and shroom combo trip. The last time I tripped was on DXM (my favorite) and I know what it takes to artificially tear the veil, but having an OBE of me living a whole life as the antichrist while on the floor of my bathroom (after a shower) did it for me. I promised to God I would remember my lessons and I will NEVER tread on occult/psychedelic ground ever again. Demons are very real and they will do ANYTHING and will show you EVERYTHING to keep you away from the very real love of the Father, and even more they try to keep you from the manifestation of God on earth, the Word made flesh, JESUS!
@@abundantharmony Bless you dear man. For a truly cosmic and mystical perspective (without being mindlessly syncretistic and occult) I can't reccomend "On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ" by Maximus the Confessor (8th cent Eastern Father)... Amazing stuff.
God bless and protect ✌️🙏👍😊
@@abundantharmony Well said by the way 🙏
the same thing for my dad at the Catholic mass celebration of the eucharist, he said he felt great love and peace, a very warm feeling throughout his body. His lung cancer disappeared, and the doctors were floored. It came back fifteen years later to kill him. He was a changed man for those years for the better
Speaking of God, there is no visitation from angels, only demons.
Ancient cultures and even people today often purposefully incorporate drugs in their rituals to let invisible, evil filth into their lives, often being deceived by them.
Wow, two of the most insightful people I have ever seen. And they are very opposite in their their lifestyles and background; yet both highly educated.
That's how good conversations happen. I was so happy to see this in my suggested videos!
Thanks Jordan and Dennis! Both of you are awesome people.
I gotta say, i liv the internet. Its such a blessing to have these two great minds converse. k miss terrence and im sure he’d be excited tenfold!
Psychedelic therapy is just one of those great leaps in the mental health space . It's wonderful and the fact that they serve recreational use and health as well. I can't deny tripping is fun every once in a while.
I've been looking to get my hands on shrooms since growing isn't an option for me . Any one knows where I can source?
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yeah , he's Dr jeffshrooom he got magic mushrooms , DMT , LSD and other psychs
dr.jeffshroom is the best. All pure psychedelics and shrooms I get from him
@@AnnaThompsonWilliamsI've been looking to try shrooms, anyone knows where can I acquire some? and if he's on Insta?
Yes he's Dr.jeffshroom,💯
I began reading Seth books in 1978 after fasting twice for 30 days and realizing that god was not outside of me. I’ve never taken any psychedelics, been slow on the uptake of the reasons for the reality I’ve created, and joyful in all of my life as I listen to anything that attracts me. I love me. I think I’m grand. I partake in all the drama of living and laugh at it all. Thank you.🌸👏🏼💥
I'd kill to have Jordan as my therapist. I have Borderline personality disorder and I've been craving to talk to someone who has his insights about it. Normal therapists bore me with their limited views on the subject. I'm not a victim and I don't need fixing. Love this channel!
People with mental illness usually suffer massively under that mental illness and try to cure it
Saying you have borderline personality disorder and choosing the username two spirit is a lot like someone with cancer celebrating that they have a tumor
Sick people usually want to get better. Attention maintained people usually want others to think that they are sick.
You might need to see him due to that whole being Willing to kill people. Maybe that's your ticket to be taken on as a client
God I hate my dyslexia... I read that twice as "I'd have to kill Jordan as my therapist" XD
@@mcrenn5350🤭 I am not laughing AT you, but that was rather funny.
Same here. Have you tried shrooms?
I'd really like to hear Jordans take on all this after sitting with plant medicine. I've been working with Aya for 6 years now and I'm quite sure the logical mind cannot actually grasp these concepts fully without the associated experience.
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Same. It's frustrating hearing him try to piece it together from an authorative standpoint, using his mind and reference to other psychologist's works, but literally having no experience for himself. The psychedelic state is that of no mind, you can't try to reason your way around it, it is a seeing and knowing.
@@simonhill6267 it's being which can be at least partially put into words through the logos . he wouldn't be able to see the relevance and wouldn't be able to play with the concepts without the experience. I have a curiosity, are you into new age by any chance? I perceive some form of bypassing you are doing where you reject your own mind, but I do not know. I am just curious about it for the time being
@@simonhill6267 Totally. He's has no room to talk if he cannot partake. He wants to mold our vision of the world into his Xtian bullshit.
Had some great times on lsd but when it goes wrong boy does it go wrong
I didn't know about the entities before I had DMT. So I hadn't had anything described to me to be able to imagine them. I looked into the entities I met in the dmt landscape and they completely matched other experiences. Definitely a lot to it, more than my little human brain can comprehend. It's definitely not just imagined though, in a fantasy sense. They are real.
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Interesting comment! Many who also walk this shaman path, have also met them, and like you also say so!
For my part as a Christian, I am in no hurry to meet up with these creatures.
We do have the evidence. They are liars, and not to be trusted. They are slaves to the enemy of our souls.
And Doom comes! In Person! That one is condemned already, but we humans are being sheared off!
We need not go to "the terrible place, most dark"! He has made a way! Come! Join with Him!
Oh man.. this a top notch conversation. LOVING the dialogs JP is having on his podcast!
I tripped with a boyfriend who was very experienced. I remember as we were speaking I was aware there were about 10 aspects of him and 10 aspects of me and they were all negotiating with each other as we talked. I’m not sure if they were ancestors or just aspects of us but I also had a sense that I’ve always known this is what is happening when people communicate but I’d just never seen it so clearly before.
After that experience, did you feel more connected to him? Were these negotiations of any good? @carolynclitheroe3588
I was a big fan of mushrooms back in the day. The last time I did it was the worst experience of my life. It took me a couple years to truly recover from the psychological damage to a functioning state. It was for the good, however. I’ve been sober for almost 7 years (which includes my opioid addiction. It’s definitely not for everyone and can be harmful as well as helpful.
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I do microdose on mushrooms and other psychedelics and i can say it has improved my daily attitude. I'm more focused and feeling less trauma, both PTSD and depression are gone. You take a mini dose to ease your brain receptors
Everyone focused on how magical psychede|ics has change their lives..I haven't tried them yet but on my “must do” list;)
@@richardwalker8575 haha not had your first try of any psychedelic?
Are you under 16 or something? Lol
@@markhalton2468 Under 16?? Funny!! ..its a must do for me ..
@@richardwalker8575 experience and feel the magical touch of shrooms haha
I started taking mushroom powders in my morning tea and give supplements to one of my teenagers. Such a difference. Mushrooms are the hidden gem. Mother nature has everything we need.
Jordan is correct, I created personality subsets to organize the information I read and retrieve my learned languages. I practiced observation meditation in the early 80s, Roy Masters had a outlook on temptations of drug use, women, power, reaching for intellectual prowess, not being controlled by your parents, and so on. I was a kid who was violent because my autism was undiagnosed. I wanted to bridge the gap between my world and the seemingly normal reality we inhabit. Drugs were ineffective as a means to life, my goals.
All these DMT experiences people have can found without taking a drug.
I've always like to read a lot, serious stuff, not fiction or nonsense. My father is a big learner also, most of my traits I get from Dad. Difference is, I have an IQ of 202 and 193. Why two?
One gets a break.
This is great. Real scientist translating true alchemical understanding. Superb.
Thanks Lord for your salvation
Thanks Lord for your peace
Thanks Lord no drugs.
The "Lord" made mushrooms
John 10
You are entering into spirit with no authority as a sinful damnable subject for entities to have there way with.
They want to steal kill and destroy.
@@dburn1313He also made arsenic. Would you ingest that?
@@cherokeepurple4480You are missing my point.
Psilocybin saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. Imagine carrying heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years the be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
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@@BrieflyCarmel-vw1znTripping is not a bad idea but it shouldn't be abused
@@user-hv6xb4qp9dI've been looking to try shrooms, anyone knows where can I acquire some? and if he's on IG?
@@AnthonyLarsYes he's Dr.jeffshroom,💯
Everyone around me perceives me as highly intelligent. However, listening to this convo made me feel like how a child feels around adults. Amazing!!!
Me and my wife did a psilocybin mushrooms trip together and we bond a lot more than we already was. it was amazing to share that different aspect of consciousness, I was not a heavy drinker before but have drink a lot less since then. It is a life changer for sure
Hey friend, what do you think that happened to you? I was never a heavy drinker either, I'd just have 1 or 2 beers after work but I did LSD on this one festival trip I did. When I came back I bought more beer because that is what I was used to and when I started drinking it was like if my body was rejecting it and I wasn't even enjoying it so I stopped drinking 100%
@@gadeonmusic I think our mind gets more objective about what is bad for our bodies. We pay more attention to the down side of things instead of not minding that for the pleasure it gives to the brain. It might also be that we change the brain connections in such a way that he no longer enjoy those other substances.
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There’s a beautiful passage in Peter Matthiessen’s “The Snow Leopard” where he recollects how he had a mystical experience with his wife (who was dead by the time of that writing, so the description is very poignant) after trying I-don’t-remember-what-substance, and how they bonded in a way he could never had imagined before.
Did shrooms with my wife as well 10 years ago, had a good time and we wanted to explore, but it lead to some heavier things, fast forward the story, we did heroin, meth and all kinds of shit, she died of overdose 2 years ago and left me with a child, im sober since then.
I’ve seen the dmt aliens on the other side and it turned out that they were part of me and created my reality based on how i related or felt during the experience. Once i figured that out they gave me the most amazing celebration exploding into the most vibrant colors, patterns and feelings i have ever experienced. They looked like jesters and the eyes are unforgettable but you can see yourself in them and feel the connection to being part of the all.
Maybe that’s what they want you to believe
Don’t be deceived. The job of demons is to deceive. Turn to Jesus while there’s time.
Accepting and remembering my love for Jesus and the force of good is exactly what transformed my experience from a dark and terrifying alien abduction to the most beautiful celebration of light and love.
Their name is Legion as they are many.
@@jen4um I agree man, there are a lot of ET races waiting for the humans to channel through their consciousness using meditative practices or via chemically induced methods only to deceive by giving them these experiences and slowly teaching them propaganda. But they can't get to that level as these artificial psychedelic effect doesn't last long enough for them unlike spiritual and natural channeling where most of the deception takes place.
One needs to believe/pray to/with a trusted source/principles like jesus, budha to channel to a right state of conscious projection to gain knowledge. The artificial methods always ends up in with wrong channels with grey aliens/elves which often get frustrated because they can't maintain strong channel with drugged humans to execute their agenda. That is the only reason why most of these psychedelic experiences doesn't end up in a complete negative way.
What entities? ...I found my father ...in all seriousness though. ..I felt as though I died I was scared for all of half a second until it wasn't even a thought as I went up into a blinding white light I said in my mind "I just wanna see my dad" and then I felt his presence afterwords I landed in a puddle of tears while reaching towards the sky and guttural ugly crying and was left with the feeling that he was proud of me and I was on the right path and just continue doing what I'm doing ...all I can do is repeat the experience in my head ...I've been reluctant to go back.....but I've never seen other beings ..I spoke to a tree mentally..and felt that dark presence but just turned away from it...
I’d like to add meditation to this discussion. I’ve gone through years of meditation followed by years not meditating. Meditation does the same thing as far as filling that “black hole” in the human gut with calm and peace. By chanting something simple, over and over for 20 or more minutes a day, allowing thoughts to come and go, with eyes closed or nearly closed- brings an immense reward. It’s not easy to describe what all it does for you, but it DOES make your life better. I always say that a hundred hours of meditation does a million dollars of good for your life.
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What most convinces me that the elves exist is that I myself have experience the dribbling, bouncing balls that go into your chest the exact way Terence, McKenna, and many other people have experienced. What are those entities? I have also experienced a sense that they are sort of jokers or dark moving shadows that can be even malignant because they try to show you something. I think they are souls that try to teach you life lessons.
I think even language itself is somewhat convoluted and even describing what you think you've experienced can be misinterpreted with stigmatic or ideal constructs of how that language is referenced to that person. So like a game of telephone, the experience happens, then your mind processes, then you attempt to interpret the process by reversing the mindset, and then based on how you communicate your thoughts will that carry over, which can also be effected by time in delay, or referencing certain bits that stem questions, or breaking down each detail further and further so that the original interpretation becomes delayed and dissolves over time so the person has to reformulate the interpretation which might be a broken reconstruction in itself with missing bits of detail in memory. And all of that carries over to the other person who's interpreting and reinterpreting the conversation as it goes back and forth...so even just describing an idea to someone can potentially be flawed on both ends, if the idea itself isn't flawed.
For example, elves stem many different references to different people based on what they know of elves. Elves in general are pretty vague and ballooned to represent many things. Tolkein's elves in Lord of the Rings are actually closer to christian angels than nordic elves, which are moreso I'd assume a blanket term for different spirits like land spirits, ancestral spirits, and ethereal. But those interpretations of ancient history are just as convoluted. By what some people describe as DMT elves tho, it also varies between like a higher self meeting the current self, or like a conscious energy that's outside the self tapping within the self. But attempting to describe to someone who hasn't experienced any psychedelics nor really delved into history, more so going off pop culture, might interpret elves as like lord of the rings or warcraft elves or something and stem their whole imagination of fantasies of their own.
I was someone who thought that psychedelics would send me into a fantasy realm to dream while awake, a kind of crossing into Narnia feel, but what I learned from LSD is that it doesn't replace your visuals and processing of reality with your imagination but it breaks down how you process reality temporarily and can break habits. It's all fun and games (until someone gets hurt by fully losing their grasp of reality and coming in contact with danger), but later it comes back with insight, as now I know parts of my subconscious that I've overlooked, as some feelings or patterns or perspectives I haven't really came to realize since I was like an infant first experiencing everything all over again, but still contained mentally to some extent.
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I encountered my 1st ego death about ago. I am 41 years old and tripped maybe 30times before and never encountered entities. I changed erything how I took them. And set out for my journey to see if the really are there.
Yes they are. I started in a geometric area with some not so clear entity. It faded out and I thought I wad losing my mind. The it came back more clear and there were more. I felt as if they where tell me come look. They seemed like they were nice and them were there to welcome me. They faded out then it was darkness. There a more clear entity made its way and it was closer and felt evil and angry. Nothing existed but this entity and absolute doom. I felt like he wanted to now show me around. No way absolutely not. I fought back and the DOOM seemed to be Un avoidable. He then grew enraged. I surrened.I absolute gave up all control and could no longer resist the dread to come. Then he faded into the darkness. I was nothing. There was nothing at all. Then I started to see something a human person was in this place with me?? It was my mother who recently died. She had her head nodding to the side like it was leaning against mine.This entities lasted far longer than the other and was very clear. I had no feelings ,But just absolute peace and filled with love. She seemed so happy I come to see her. I felt like she was telling me its ok. I promise it will be ok.When I came back to this realm I was overwhelmed. I thought there is no way anyone could believe that some one could witness this in another dimension. I just sat there on the bed teary eyed from what I just went through.
In this realm I was very depressed and drinking a lot. I have struggled with alcohol and opiates for the last 15 years and been to many rehabs. I was missing my mother ,But I was still barely pushing through life. After my experience I have not even thought about any drug or alcohol. Not a craving or a thought I don't k ow why I would. I am happy sober not better sober actual happiness. When my mother passed I was there to comfort her telling her mom it's OK. So I don't know if this is a parallel universe or what ,But it showed me much more and taught me much more. Even going through the stay of feeling doomed taught me a whole lot. It taught to let things go here and this realm and don't take it so seriously. Enjoy it ,But stress over things this too will also all fade out.
Thank you for sharing, i can relate to this story so much❤
Its funny. I sit here reflecting upon my many trips, how they evolved, where they started and how they are these days. When I look at the paintings you speak of it reminds me of the entrance into multi-dimensional life. Think of these type of trips as a tune, one that gets played over and over again until your consciousness shows signs of being ready for more. Higher levels of spiritual states that teach you about your own history as a soul, along with the teachings you have acquired along the way and the current purpose you now possess. For myself this is where I go when I trip. Still most people never pass the first tune, this is why so many being interviewed speak of similar trips. They are all stuck in the same tune, which is fine because to teaches one that life s a lot more than what the physical eyes show us. Terance McKenna never pst this tune either. I have listened to a lot of his work, it is rather surface in its depths. The fact that he says "this life is a preparation for life in a different dimension" clearly shows me that he is clueless when it comes to understanding his own creation, Earth and it's maya and how we are created in general. Anyone who speaks in a way that lowers the value of the experience they are having right now shows me how little they understand of its importance along with what it means to be here now. I myself know about so many lives I have lived, I can literally remember back just under 2 million years when it comes to my own soul. Yet I do not care who I was, its who I am currently that is important. Also if you think its just my imagination that I lived that long ago please reflect upon the fact that in the mid 1990's when I accessed these ancient memories within myself I discussed this with many scholars who were around me at the time. They would laugh at me, mock me, insult me, all while they proclaimed humanity to be only 1600000 years old because that is what the "science" said. I spoke back, insisted I am correct, and I told them that the tiny human I was just under 2 million years ago walked upright just as we do right now. That got even bigger laughs and insults. That is until the last 10 years. We now know for a real fact that the specimen known as ":Lucy" who indeed is our ancient ancestor did in fact walk upright just as humans do now. So I know way more than most humans when it comes to our source, our purpose and our roots as living humanoids. Its not of my "imagination" as you put it.
As Jordan started speaking of the "rage personality" I prepared to write my comment explaining that being what I described as a Hellenic Conceptualist, I see rage as Ares, but then Jordan beat me to it. I will add that the mythic conflicts between Ares and Athena in The Iliad illustrates the conflict between Athena's cool rationality victorious over the rage of Ares. We must cultivate our Athena energy to better handle those times when Ares take hold.
i hung out and interacted with several dragons while on Ayahuasca and have not a shred of doubt they were conscience entities independent of my own. They were very playful , massive in size and completely majestic in every sense of the word. They also showed me their treasure trove and gifted me a pearl the size of a basketball. Good times.
Did you sell it?
@@a-walpatches6460 It wasn’t that kind of gift 😜
Pearl of great price?
If you memiprner Jesus Christ to them, they will likely run away or scream.
I think schizophrenia is people with inter dimensional ability’s without understanding what it is they experience and we write them of as mental disorders. Their frequency is different and they are unknowingly tapping into a different dimension.
In my adolescence I had multiple experiences with LSD. Initially these experiences were mind expanding and taught me a lot about myself. Over the years I have attempted to understand the construction of these hallucinations and I see them as sharing the properties of Mandelbrot’s self similarity constructs and Jackson Pollock’s use of that concept in his most famous art. While on first experience hallucinations appear to be random I believe they are highly organized in their construct. This says nothing about the emotional or mental catalyst of the individual but is purely a comment on how they are presented.
I encounter characters in my dreams - always humans - who nearly always have little to no personality or emotion whatsoever. All the emotion is mine. Everyone else is always calm, while I rage against, or love them. So the idea that dream characters represent emotional states seems 100% *incorrect* to me.
But more interestingly, these characters, now and then, will say something enigmatic to me, something that doesn't seem to mean anything at all, at the time, or just to mean something mundane. Then later, I suddenly get what was meant, and it makes sense.
Here's the problem: an intelligible message self-evidently can not self-assemble by random chance. It _has_ to be intelligently designed. As soon as you understand it, you know it came from a conscious being. But if *I did not understand it when I heard it,* it can not have been _I_ who designed it. How could I design something intelligent that I didn't not comprehend until later? It's like coming up with a joke while not getting the joke - and then getting it later. That's not possible.
_There has to be somebody else in there,_ who is not me. It has to be conscious, and it's consciousness is clearly independent of my own. But why this should be, or what it's purpose could be, I have no idea. But it is also clear that, though I do not know this being, have barely inferred it's existence from such logic as the above, _it_ knows _me._
It does not seem divine, to me, for it seems human. It speaks through human characters and uses words, not feelings or 'knowing telepathy.' But it does seem wise and kind, and sort of male.
I have noted it in only a few dreams ever; but I rarely remember my dreams, so it's possible that I encounter it more often.
At least twice, it has set a kind of puzzle for me. And this also indicates to me that it is able to plan things, of which, I have no part in the planning. Otherwise, it would not be a puzzle. You can not be puzzled by a puzzle you designed. Nor can such puzzles randomly self-assemble.
well, life itself is a heterogeneous self-assembling self-surprising puzzle, so for a living being that's totally possible
Great comment, thankyou for all of that.
Who are you?
Agreed 100%. Anything can be explained away but I'd say in this case you'd have to be invested in WANTING to explain it away, and if you care about truth at all then you should at least know exactly why that is. I guess each would have to find their own answer to that but a somewhat blunt suggestion would be that it's a lot easier than accepting there's something to the autonomous entity perspective of yours because explaining it away doesn't come with the fear of not being taken seriously by others that hold social status above truth too. AKA polite society. As in 'let those peasants do the dirty work of moving society forward and leave us respectable members of society to enjoy the fruits and comfy safety of our social status'. This is exactly why removing the choice of being anonymous on discussion boards etc is a bad idea.
@@priapulida This sort of thinking always seemed like accidental sophistry, to me. I mean no offense, for these things are confusing. But suppose we see a lion eat a possum, and you say, "Actually, the possum ate the lion, because the possum is the real lion and the lion is the real possum.'
But isn't that just re-defining words? That's what it sounds like, to me, when someone says, "Actually, that other thing is the real you. The 'you' that feels like you is not really you."
And then the other problem is that, it seems to me, a hallucination can only take place within consciousness. A rock cannot hallucinate(unless rocks are conscious). Nor can a rock hallucinate being conscious if it actually isn't. You'd have to already have some kind of consciousness to get a hallucination.
So when you say that "we are hallucinating our consciousness," I can't see how that makes sense, as we would have to already be conscious in order to have the hallucination. Some kind of consciousness has to _precede_ hallucination.
You are in good company though, for both Freud and Jung, if I recall, hold that what we experience as 'self' is not the _real_ self. They decided to use the word 'self,' instead, to refer to some other something, which might very well correspond to whatever is orchestrating the dreams that my 'false experience of self' experiences. I think they call the 'false experience of self' the 'ego.'
But I don't understand what switching the words around like that accomplishes conceptually. It's always sounded like sophistry. To me, if we're _not_ using the word 'self' to refer to the 'locus of awareness,' then, ultimately, we're just playing word games in order to obscure rather than to clarify.
But I certainly don't pretend to know the answers. I am lost in this, only catching glimpses of things that I don't understand.
I can well imagine that you and others might be trying to communicate to me the key concept that I am missing - via abstract usage of language, because standard usage of language is not sufficient; but I simply am not getting it.
Excellent!!! I've never considered anger, hunger, etc., as quite autonomous personalities!!! It's always so enlightening to watch Dr. Peterson's videos!!! Thank you J. Peterson for your constant contributions to our learnings!!! 🤗🙏🏻✨️
Why Buddhism Is True by Robert Wright may interest you, if this path intrigues you.
There's a section about the "modular theory of mind"
I had three soldiers who did not know each other tell me separately that when they ingested Dramamine they each claimed there was a tiny man sitting on a clock. In retrospect, it reminded me of what individuals claim about Ayahuasca
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Nothing prepared me for dmt. I thought I was a seasoned psycanaut having taken enough acid and mushrooms in the 90s to think I was versed. Shit even ate 15 hits of mad hatter and 10 of Timothy leary a different time. 8 grams of mushies dozens and dozens of times. Didn't take any heroic doses since my early 20s only smaller doses at concerts and music festivals in my older age. Tried dmt and WTF. I literally thought I died. I can't exactly explain everything I experienced when I blast off wherever I went just remember the crackling metal like sound that got louder and louder and the geometric shapes that folded into itself over and over that seemed to have eyes that coaxed me into the blast off. I came back just knowing with all being that the ONLY thing that mattered in this reality is love and the experiences we have with others. And the energy we share and way we interact with one another. Everything else is just secondary.
I've grown to be fascinated by this topic ever since my second weed trip I had about 6 months ago. The experience was profound, but also very ominous too. I've never really had much experience w drugs at all my whole life and only really had the opportunity to try them out this year. I'm also aware that weed and psychedelics aren't entirely the same beast, but when I've discussed what I "saw" and "heard," my friend said that my descriptions were much more fitting for a psychedelic experience than a weed experience, which makes me wonder why my mind reacted so strongly but also what was possibly in my friends weed haha.
I don't know if I'll explain it all because it's pretty exhaustive, but I'll say now that I didn't necessarily experience visual or auditory hallucinations, but rather my thoughts moved so quickly and processed what it was thinking and carried on with those thoughts so quickly that as I observed it all, I could hardly believe I was thinking them and they appeared like pseudo visions. I'll also preface by saying that I'm no longer religious (I was Islamic before adolescence), but I have many friends who are religious, and I've taken philosophy courses that helped me further contemplate the logistics of religion and led me to be more skeptical, but yet part of me is very tired of being cynical and just terribly hopes there's meaning and compensation for all of this.
But basically, I had a rip of my friends bong (coughed a bit, my friend got a bit excited haha) and I sat there waiting for the experience. I had one experience prior to this one, maybe a few weeks prior, and I got familiar w physical numbing (along w enunciated sensation in a place that isn't being stimulated anymore), the feeling that I was in someone else's body, the feeling that everything is profound, the movement of time feeling contorted, feeling as though I would forget things at my own recollection and could still remember them somewhat, and that the language of my thoughts would change, so I suppose those set the stage for my expectations. The first time I was high, I had a "vision" (again I say vision, but rather it felt more like an image in the mind's eye, similar to when you're consciously recalling what something looks like, or when you're generating the image of an idea that you plan to create in art) of my body as a building made of red bricks, a bright blue sky behind it and clouds passing thru the open pillars of my mouth, and the profound thought I had was "blue skies, red bricks. It's all passing" to describe the whole trip.
This second time, I felt a bit of the things I experienced last time and I would notice it. My body started growing numb, I felt detached to my surroundings, and profound thoughts started arising. I felt a heaviness in my neck, and it felt like my soul was tethered to my neck and it was falling further into my body, which was a building of red bricks yet again. But this time, I fell so deep into it that I appeared in an entirely different realm of existence (I imagine it's an interpretation of my dissociation from my environment and how detached I felt from consequence), and my mind had an entirely new vocabulary. It spoke in grammatically incorrect/nonsensical/contradictory syntaxes, but it all had meaning. I was alternating between three places, one with the cosmos as the backdrop, one that I described the sky as being "large and red"(it was more golden orange than red most the time), and back to reality and realizing I was still in the room w my friend and I was starting above the TV. Then I "saw and heard" thoughts form around me of these entities with many eyes and arms, and they were observing me w curiosity. They kept pointing to the tether that my soul was bound to, and I noticed they had no tethers bound to them.
My brain thought, and it accelerated, and it came to the conclusion that I was in a realm of existence where nothing existed, where things "existed" beyond logic, reason and comprehension. I knew this was the place I would go when I died, when I ceased to exist at all. I called it the Realm of Independence, a place independent of the tethers of logic and reason. Real life was the Realm of Dependence, where we are all bound by tethers to things that our existence relies on: logic, reason, sensation, hunger, emotion, and ultimately, existence itself. If our tethers are severed, we will die and cease to be, and we would be "liberated" to the Realm of Independence and exist past existence. It all had strong and profound meaning to me, and I saw parallels to support it all. I reasoned these things had multiple body parts as a sign of divinity, where biblically accurate angels are a swarm of rings and eyes and wings, or where certain deities in world culture have multiple arms for example. I reasoned that based on evolution, those traits simply could not exist in those numbers and in those features (more than 2 human arms or more than two human eyes, where 2 eyes and arms are what we've been evolved to develop thru our vertebrate ancestry), so they were beyond logic and reason. The idea that faith is the trust in something that you cannot logically prove yourself besides taking the word of others as truth beyond your own subjective knowledge, and how some religious ppl in my life explained how they believed in God because they simply cannot understand what he knows and they accept his word as coming from a place of higher understanding. There would be other thoughts to try rationalizing my thoughts about the experience, but they're rather redundant to explain now. However, the last thought I had before I really sobered up was "one day, you won't be dependent," as in one day I will die, and there was a relieving but grim comfort in the idea that I won't have to deal w this unbearable life forever and that such a profound experience existed for me past my dependence to existence.
I knew this was a dark thought and I tried to keep my distance from humoring it, but over the year, the idea that I was inspired and moved and found purpose in things that- by their very nature and definition- did not exist in this world brought me a lot of existential dread, and I am still inspired deeply by this experience and I can see how dangerous that is, but even as I'm aware of it, it seems hard to stray from that inevitability.
So naturally, I've grown to be very curious of the independent entities that existed beyond existence, and how they share features w things I've heard and seen from religious iconography and language, psychedelic retellings and descriptions of their visions, and even particularly creative artists who used similar motifs to the ones I saw. I think my reaction was so strong because I haven't smoked weed much, but also that I'm a rather artistic person as part of my identity, and I think that really accelerated my creativity while high. What do you guys think? How did this experience relate to psychedelic experiences and shared visions, or is it entirely independent of it, considering it's a weed trip? I have drawings and notes that I scribbled out while on that trip, and I've expanded further on some of those drawings and ideas when I've been sober, so I'd be happy to share more if need be!
I got excited reading this comment because I had the same experience! I’ve been trying to explain to people but they think I’m crazy.
I did barely any THC from like a 5 MG edible. I’ve done as high as 20 in the past so this was very little.
I immediately was being bombarded with “profound images” memories that weren’t mine. I just knew they weren’t! It was like deja vu but on rapid fire every 5 seconds a new profound image or memory would appear.
It wasn’t just because I was activating an unused part of my brain. Hell no. Something had intentions for me and wanted me to listen. This entity felt as if it was trolling me because I challenged it.
I kept forgetting these profound images because I was receiving new information every couple seconds. I challenged this entity with the intention that I would remember these profound images the next day I woke up. And when I made that intention clear, the entity would respond to it by giving me even more intense images even FASTER. That’s how I felt a relationship and communication being perceived between me and this entity. It was trying its hardest to make me forget and I was laughing at it, telling it. You can’t make me forget, I will remember! I was at war for 2+ hours then I finally fell asleep, woke up and lost the fight because I forget 50% of it. Usually people off DMT trips forget 99.9% of it. Which is was scared me. How DO I KNOW THIS MUCH THE NEXT DAY? I felt very anxious and scared, it’s like I possesses information I wasn’t allowed to have. Like my human brain shouldn’t comprehend this and it was driving my crazy. I almost had a panic attack because I literally couldn’t make sense of the thoughts or ideas I had because there were other worldly . I literally thought to myself that this is what people with schizophrenia have. They think the government is after them or that something is in the walls. They can’t verbalize or explain anything to you because their information they’re trying to act on, has no purpose being in the human world. Anyways after one hour of being awake, all of it went away. I was back into the matrix.
I had a very similar experience with weed. Mine was terrifying though. Ironically I came out of the experience not religious at all too. It wiped me clean of all religious bias. I feel free now but it terrified me and I haven't smoked since. Idk what to make of it still. I feel like it killed a part of me that needed to die and I feel like I met my shadow self and ive been able to work through quite a lot of trauma since then.
@oliviakamara7153 that's cool that it served a purpose for you in terms of being free of certain internal ideologies, but I'm sorry to hear it was terrifying : ( yea I was pretty terrified of it all when I came back down from it. The comfort I felt in the idea that I'll die someday and I'll find everything I was looking for after death really scared me, and I knew if I was in a worse place, that thought could have pushed me off a cliff, thinking that life is empty and I'll find purpose after life. I haven't had much to smoke ever since cuz the idea of wanting to lose myself to the highs was really concerning and becoming much more of a reality.
I'm also not religious still, but w religion all around me, I still use its vocabulary and I still hold some internal core beliefs shaped by it. One of them is the idea that actions don't matter and that only the intention behind them matters, and that's scared me a lot and has made me believe I'm a bad person, even tho it's never externalized. I also have these feelings of being "damned," where it feels like I'm being punished for my impure intentions, or that God keeps giving me more character development when it's obviously doing more harm than good rn. Idk, I've just come to identify less w the idea that God doesn't exist, and now the possibility that something beyond my comprehension is connecting all these coincidences together seems to be an alluring ideology to surrender to. But i still have my cynicism and my reasons to believe in other more rational explanations instead of immediately citing the existence of something that cannot be proven to exist.
I hope your conversation and confrontation w your shadow self has had long lasting positive effects for you : ) thank you for sharing your experience!
@averybane1163 wow, that's quite the experience! Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only person who was so strongly affected by weed; ppl have definitely noted how crazy it is that I reacted so strongly and some ppl have tried getting me to try shrooms, to which I have absolutely refused lol.
That interaction w this being you encountered is bizarre! You say that it was trying to make you forget and that you challenged it, but if it was showing you this stuff at all, don't you think it meant it wanted you to see these things? Why would you show someone information if you want them to forget it? Or was it like because it got high, some information slipped thru the cracks and this entity was trying to take the thoughts back? Very bizarre indeed haha
But yes part of me during the trip realized how insane I sounded when I was narrating my thoughts to my friends. I made the connection that this new "language" I was speaking is similar to the common trope of the town's madman, someone that sends completely insane, talking about nonsense, but usually it's revealed that all those words had meaning and the madman was trying to warn everyone of what he saw, but because it was so otherworldly, it just came off as insane. I described it in my notes, saying "I must look strange to both of them," where on one hand I was interacting with entities that did not understand my reliance on tethers, and on the other, I was returning to this mundane world w words and phrases that didn't make sense.
I think the craziest thing about these trips is that EVERYTHING has a meaning, EVERYTHING is a profound breakthrough and I'm the first to interpret it. It feels like I'm delving into the depths of non-existence, seeing things that never existed before, then when I come back, I'll have memories of them, almost like taking souvenirs back from this non-existence, and thus making it exist. It's very empowering and makes going to sleep feel much more exciting, like I'm going to dive into the ocean and go deep below, in search of new things.
I'm sorry that the experience made you have a panic attack tho : ( my experience made suicide much more prominent in my head, especially once things went to shit and I was having breakdowns and psychiatric emergencies. It felt like there wasn't any reason to exist anymore. I wrote a piece when I was in the psych ward where it took on the voice of these entities, and they were calling to me, beckoning me to join them. I can share the whole thing if you're interested, but the parts that stood out most to me was the last few lines: "have Faith. Have Hope. For one day, you won't be Dependent. Join us. Where the Sacred dwell. One can only be Sacred in Independence." These were some of the lines that were also in my original experience, so it was like those words from those months past were actually the beginnings of the communication between me and them, and they were already showing signs, inviting me to die and live again. "Past Existence. Past Existence." I'm in as much awe of it as I am in terror of it, and I guess that's the meaning of the sublime.
Do you remember any of the images or profound thoughts anymore? Or are they completely gone now, and you only remember that you experienced them at all?
God definitely exists. There is good and evil. If you do psychedelics and even weed, you open the door to these entities. Give them full reign. They can wreak havoc unknowingly into your life. Please stay away from it. Stay away from it. Command those entities to leave your life. They will probably fight you. Watch. Ask Jesus for to help. You will be suprised.
Best way i can explain everything, is to remember that you are a spirit and so when you see all these entity's, it's because you are seeing with your spirit in a different dimension of reality a spirit realm. Spirit is Consciousness.
As a professed and struggling Christian, i am conflicted about mushrooms. Ive seen their benefits in openness and navigating traumas such as ptsd, recognizing neuroticism, staving off migraine disorders. The claims of nuerogenesis, increased energy, and focus ive witnessed. Yet when i engaged in the community i was startled by the frequency in which people became eastern mystics and rejected the concept of objective evil. Doaism, hinduism, buddism, and mixtures thereof, making up a majority of the community's religious paradigm. Various version that ultimately result in making ourselves the center of worship and/or the mushroom itself (praise for the creation not the creator). Quite often intangled with a form of naturalistic hedonsim. Over time i began to think, "These are the decendants of Alan Watts".
For the Christian i think the use of mushrooms comes doown to the desire behind the consumption. Is it to gleem spiritual widom, to unseal the noetic eye? Or to heal spirtual traumas? To feel good? To see some wacky stuff? To stave off a crippling diesease (cluster migraines, pos ptsd)? The Christian must ask are they attempting to force the hand of God (sorcery as it was referred to throughout history)?
I'm glad JP isn't afraid to research this topic. He's grounded in truth and reality and apparently has no real experience of using psychedelics so I love hearing his point of view on it to see if comes to similar conclusions to what I have learnt from my own experiences of using it myself.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store his got his got Shrooms, psychedelics, alongside other products well Refined ships to anywhere discreetly.
He's on Instagrams also on Telegram with..
Mycopete..
Certainly grounded in truth in reality in terms of his psychoanalysis.
But he's certainly deluded in terms of his belief in the bible and religion.
It's a pity because I admire his work in psychology.
@@ellk1991 I love listening to him talk about religion too. I am not religious whatsoever but its plain to see that religion in general is full of wisdom and secrets that should be explored
I've tried so many psychedelics- some compounds I've used far more than others. Not here to say "oh I'm so darned experienced, I have nothing more to learn!". What I will say is that, I think it's absolutely necessary to the human experience to experience at least one or two heavy psychedelic experiences - especially in today's day and age where there's so much digital interference in our day to day lives. Having experienced psychedelics a few times, you'll immediately realize just how connected we are, all of us. It doesn't matter if you have enemies- enemies you hate and would like to see exterminated- psychedelics (while under their influence) will show you that you're not separated by as many degrees as you'd like think. Almost every Psychedelic will reveal very dark corners within you, a darkness you might've never realized you even harbored, and that under the correct conditions could have you behaving the way in which your enemies behave. It's truly profound what this psychedelic gift provides us as humans with brains and biology that really absorb these compounds and reveal spectrums of reality which we might go a lifetime without ever having known (which is such a dying shame)
I am a recently initiated Shaman of Bon tradition where we do not use psychedelics at all. I started having visions of Gods and sacred sites that are significant to our tradition way before my initiation day. At first I didn’t understand why I was seeing these places. Later I found out that these sacred sites were the key to our rituals. There are some things psychological cannot explain.
While I don't always agree with you, I applaud you for having this conversation.
Psychedelics aggravated a condition I didn't even know I had now I live with paranoid schizophrenia every day
unfortunately you'll have to revisit this trip to take it full circle. do it either by yourself as a guided meditation (i recommend sergeant pepper album) or with an actual human guide present, but don't take as a 'party "drug"' for "fun"
and this is the other side unfortuantely.
@@blueblackyellow lol you really gotta stop doing drugs there ain't no visiting the afterlife
@@jakekleine9179 I have an understanding of DMT. Beyond most likely even this guy. Used it over 50 times and have visions naturally every night into the DMT realm before bed. I don't need to listen to a burnt out hippy telling me that the "entities" in DMT lead to the afterlife because that part isn't true it's all in your'e mind. You're not leaving this dimension and going anywhere you're just high.
My loved one did too. She suddenly experienced psychedelics and it changed her forever. Paranoid Schizophrenic, obsessive, mania. Breaks my heart.
Oh do i love the McKennas… Dennis has gone on to be an incredible researcher and ethnopharmacologist, brilliant mind and so a very big thank you Dennis for furthering our knowledge of these plant and fungi medicines.
Psychedelic are just an amazing discovery. Is quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress disorder. Really saved my life.
I have researched and found out that shrooms are very helpful , it has really helps to reduce anxiety and depression . I would love to try magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some , Is there any realiable source I can purchase one
I was having this constant , unbearable anxiety because of stress. Not until I also came across Dr.Mile a very intelligent mycologist. He came through for me with his knowledge on psychs.
Psilocybin saved my life . I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September . I have zero cravings . This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment .
@@GladyspeteI’m feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety level. I am so glad to be part of this community.
@@isabellaemma9082Please how do I contact him?
Is he on InSta?!!
I never heard of deities from trips until after I experienced it for myself. I had no idea that so many others shared the same or similar experiences
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store his got his got Shrooms, psychedelics, alongside other products well Refined ships to anywhere discreetly.
He's on Instagrams also on Telegram with the below handle as...
Mycopete..