Concerns growing as Lake Okeechobee discharges underscore need for Everglades restoration
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- Communities on both Florida coasts are bracing for impact as they monitor the billions of gallons of water being discharged by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers from Lake Okeechobee since mid-February.
Someone is getting rich off the pollution! They need to pay!
Big Sugar farms are 100% responsible but they control the State Legislature.
The sugar growers who then purchase our politicains.
yeah exactly why do state and federal funds have to pay for this when very few have benefited!
US Sugar Corp.
And they can afford to pay.
But what most ppl don't understand, is that they just pass the fines for what they do, onto me n you.
Thank you for saying fertiliser runoff from corporate farms is a major part of the problem.
A lot of other news sources ignore that part because it is so political.
I've been saying since the 80s that the sugar farms are the problem. Not the population. But big sugar owns every politician in the state.
The Salton Sea in California was the same way. It was a playland for the people of Los angeles, a great place to go for the weekend or a week's vacation on the lake. Once the commercial farming started, the runoff killed everything in the lake! Now it's a dead Lake!
What is a corporate farm? lol….
@@jordyb57farming done by corporations. ❤😂🎉😮😮lol
No, its more about people hiring landscapers who use the stuff by the ton on a daily basis....regulations need to be put in place. Farmers need it....a guy looking for the greenest lawn possible needs to go without it.
Guaranteed that Dixie Sugar will not be held responsible or contribute to the restoration. They are fighting every angle possible to prevent being shut down , and being held accountable for the destruction caused by runoff from cane fields.
Those sugar cane farms have been there forever, fertilizing the same ground over and over.
Funny that its just been since they cleared up the waterways for boats to get through that we suddenly started to have problem!
Those plants that they cleared out were using the fertilizer and cooling the water, but tourists boats are more impotant!
Sugar isn't the only problem You are part of it too,
we have been having this problem well over 30 years. @@SandcastleDreams
Tax payers pay to clean up their pollution.
@@drivebyquipper sugar farms are by FAR the largest contributing factor.
Stop trying to distract from that!
I guess building cities over the Everglades was a mistake, who would've thought? 🤷
Developers and Sugar run the state
The blue state refugees:
@@mehnameehjeff6325 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣No it is the Sugar Plantations 100%🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't that it was fertilizer runoff of nitrogen and phosphorus. Human sewer runoff on top of that. Canals built. Army corps of engineers are very poor environmental stewards. The cost to fix this is very high.
@@WindTurbineSyndrome you're so wrong with that statement. Its every agriculture industry north of the Alley that has bought and paid every good ol boy redneck politician in Tallahassee. Your not fooling anyone with that bait and switch argument.
The natural water level of Lake Okeechobee was 45 to 60 feet above sea level. This provided the hydrostatic force to push that water through the limestone, which filtered out the tannins, so that it was crystal clear when it emerged from the springs. (There were active springs all around Florida and even off the coast for sailors to drink.) Additionally, plants absorbed the nutrients as the water flowed in a sheet over the land toward the SW coast of Florida. Abundant fish, birds and other wildlife were supported.
But they wanted dry land for housing development and for farming. Men arrogantly thought that they could do a better job of designing Nature, than God did. The Army Corp of Engineers cut the canals to rapidly drain Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades. The Kissimmee River was converted from a meandering filtration stream into a straight sewer pipe. Soil depth of the rich muck once was about 45 feet. The drained rich organic soil (muck) is digested by bacteria, so that it disappears as it is converted to carbon dioxide. Last I heard (decades ago), the soil level had less than 10 feet remaining.
Turn it back over to Nature, the way we found it. It is going to happen anyway, once man does himself out of a home.
Big Sugar should be disbanded and sent out of Florida. Those people are unscrupulous and criminal in their actions !!!
Brace yourself to wean off of Sugar then!
Big Sugar is Subsidized by our gummit, and they Will raise their prices if any action is taken against them!
Remember this, as you watch videos of the everglades, while eating a snickers bar.
You spelled Army Corp. of Engineers wrong. Your problem is the corrupt Army Corp. of Engineers. Many waterways they manage are being over run by Blue Green Algae. They destroyed the Snake River with Blue Green Algae.
Tell me again how many years has this has been going on, when will you realize that they don’t really care about the environment they only care about the money,too much being spent and not enough into their pockets for a problem they don’t care about , this was a problem 40 years ago when I was a kid we called it canal water and when it came down the beach the fish left and if they really cared about this problem it would have been fixed a long time ago,when we complained or tried to do something about it we were pushed away saying your just fishermen what do you know about the environment ,your kids what do you know
Bingo. They don't give AF while they continue to line their pockets from big sugar.
They wonder why fish of all types are spinning themselves to death.. news says.. no problem 😮. They will say " climate change" so they don't have to take responsibility.. disgusting.
Human politics suck, the greed and arrogance dooms every living ecosystem.
It’s ALL SECRET LOBBYING ABND BRIBER GRAFTING
We do not need or want big government regulations. We will take your money to fix OUR PROBLEMS.
It's almost like we shouldn't be living in these places and rerouting the waters natural flow.
It is almost like it is a swamp that should have been drained centuries ago.
“Almost?” 🤔
Stop Big Sugar!
and big Pharma
My buddy and I just spent 2 days canoeing and fishing the Everglades, didn’t catch a single fish. A local guide of 30 years told us no one has been catching fish with the poor water quality.
The fish are dying. They can’t breathe fertilizer, or alge.
@@maryswanson9982 No kidding? Obviously. Entire ecosystems are dying.
@@maryswanson9982 fentanyl floyd can't breathe 😂😂😂😂
Then quit fishing, Einstein.
Im so sorry!!! I lived on the lake back in the 80s and it was CRYSTAL CLEAR!!!! there were minnows and urchins, and so much bass!!!!
Shouldn't the agriculture corporations that created the runoff which is causing red tide which and now forcing Florida to spend billions on this project, be the ones to pay for it?
That's traitor talk. Mind your own business, and continue fighting those in your own lowly class.
Of course they should. That is how taxes work, both as mitigation and incentive for better behavior. These are not local farms growing strawberries, this is a multi billion dollar industry supplying sugar to markets across the nation. They don’t get a pass on their failing processes.
The state can make the necessary changes in conjunction with industry’s efforts but ultimately, only the threat of fines and increased taxes will get the attention of corporations whose concern for the public is literally zero.
@@Surprise_Inspection What a ridiculous reply. I’m thinking you’re just a troll, despite your username. Maybe even some punk kid keyboard warrior. Anyone talking like that for real would be shut down hard.
@@artysanmobile dude he's not even trolling, he's supporting what I'm saying by playing the part of the politicians and lobbyists who would disagree with what I said.
And progress came and took its toll
And in the name of flood control
They made their plans and they drained the land
Now the glades are going dry
And the last time I walked in the swamp
I sat upon a Cypress stump
I listened close and I heard the ghost of Osceola cry
The amount of issues that Florida faces are numerous from over fertilizing residential neighborhoods to keep green grass alive, real estate development, agriculture, phosphorous mining, roads, unnatural canals and finally the discharging of human waste into our rivers and estuaries creating dead zones for harvesting.
Absolutely! The list goes on and on. The same thing in North Carolina and elsewhere.
Floridas biggest problem is Tallahassee
Feel free to leave us locals don't need you
@@joeysworldsewer at least we know where you crawled out of........ This state sucks and im here to change that...... DEAL WITH IT sewer boy
@@joeysworldsewer it is the locals doing the damage.
No wonder why the fishes are acting strange
What clean water?
Where?
No safe tap water left in this country. Pfas, BPA, BPS, lead, antibiotics, and other prescription products that can not be filtered out.
I'm glad I don't have kids. It's only gonna get worse.
Not just tap water. Even the clouds have contamination. How bad is it that distillation/evaporation doesn't even clean the water anymore. I'm old enough to remember when people said they didn't want plastics in the late '70s/early '80s... they came anyway. In the last 50 years we have done more damage to air and water than the 5,000 years before it combined
They need to stop the river run off and start letting it naturally flow through the Everglades.
HOLD BIG SUGAR ACCOUNTABLE
STOP SUBSIDIZING BIG SUGAR
WE THE PEOPLE
Tell that to Desantis! He is too busy banning books and teachers and running the War on Women!
You reap what you sow.
The corp of engineers has screwed up way more than they have fixed
Starting to sound that way. I'm sure big sugar and developers helped them.
The politicians have done way more damage than the corp has. They are employees of the sugar growers, not the people of florida
hopefully the corps are working for us and our environment now.
This is not the corps fault at all. This is the politicians that the sugar growers and other agricultural industries north of the Alley have bought, but this foolish citizenry keeps sending the good ol boys up there every election. Stop shooting yourselves in the foot every election by voting for this corrupt party that controls this state.
@@jhourietDoubtful
Every candy bar, or spoonfuls of Sugar in coffee you consume, contributes to the fertilizer runoff.
The Sugar Cane is so vast, they named "Evercane Road" after it!
I won't complain if sugar prices rise. Sometimes my 80yo mom complains about smaller food portions, ie candy or whatever, and i tell her maybe that's a good thing.
Sugar addiction in this society is not good for anyone.
I don't usually don't add sugar to anything, but I have a small container of coconut sugar just in case.
We RV'd near that lake for a few weeks back in the early 2000's and were not aware at how filthy that whole area was. When our reservation ran out we couldn't get out of that messy area fast enough. Between the stink from that lake and the sticky ash from burning off of the sugar cane fields you're constantly inundated with the results of polluting of the area. The only other places we've been that rival that spot were Beaumont Tx and the Salton Sea.
"We are not experiencing any type of mortality from fish yet" he says, as the video shows a number of dead fish washed up on the beach
Lol, you are totally a crazy conspiracy theorist. The news doesn't lie. EVER.
That was in the past
Need to look into a link between this and the sawfish deaths.
Its sugar agg runoff and farm runoff.
Let's see how many MORE fish we can effect in the Keys and the Everglades. It's amazing what officials get away with when the general public CAN'T.
Case closed, this is what has been causing the spinning fish in SOFLO & the Keys.
um no its a new phenomenan wheras lake o pollution was an issue from the 90s
@@IhaytFukkingsocialmediait is not new but a recurrence.
A RUclips Commenter Scientist solves, and closes a case that still has marine biologists baffled.
Maybe the biologists will come across this thread
How many crayfish farms have popped up in Florida in the last few years? Adding phosphorus for the crayfish to grow will pollute your waters.
I’m happy to see a focus on this enormous problem. The public is largely unaware of the root cause of what they only discover when both the Atlantic and Gulf coasts of their home communities are too dangerous to use. I’ve seen this effect and it is profoundly unfair for citizens to be paying a huge cost for what is essentially agriculture’s abuse of their resources.
I have friends who ended up needing medical treatment due to this pollution 6 years ago. After living here since the 60s, it is a pretty bitter pill to swallow that the benefits of South Florida are no longer available while the many drawbacks only worsen. Solutions must come from the state but be paid for largely by the industry that is wholly responsible.
Despite relying on luxury tourism, Florida can best be described as "inhospitable" on so many levels.
The books on how to fix it are banned.😮
Big sugar not the only culprit, septic tanks a huge problem also, and so many houses built with them from Orlando, south to Broward County over the last 20 years.
Septic tank companies could switch over to being composting tank/system companies and get ahead of a change the world needs and lead the charge. Circulating educational content about composting systems to those folks who (stand to profit from) and could/would thereby jumpstart the changeover could help... I should get on that right now. :)
bingo!!!! composting heaps in place of just pure gross sewage@@nickbodenschatz1018
@@nickbodenschatz1018 Good luck "Circulating educational content" in Fla.
Big sugar is without a doubt the culprit, the fanjul family practically owns the water management district or at least all their board members so nothing will be done to solve this mess
@@levismith7444 why are we allowing this!!!!!?????
The wholesale destruction of Florida is happening so incredibly fast. It's sickening. Environmental collapse is imminent. Sad to see such a treasure laid to waste by soul-less wretches and cheap lifestyle fads. The end is near for all of us.
Small family farms would make a world of difference.
It's getting late to fix these things...
Concrete doesn't make our oxygen...
I wish I could get a job on this project right now
John Anderson - Seminole Winds
Ah, never underestimate the incompetence of the US Corp(se) of Engineers.
The money spent on Draining a swamp (FL) to build infrastructure with nature reclaiming with rising sea levels is a unique learning experience. Humanity is slowly learning to respect Nature as the planet's elder.
Lol you people are dumb. You what 10, 20. There isn't any sea level rise this is a really old problem caused by the army Corp of engineers. Nothing to do with climate change what so ever
That treatment area is great for the sugar farms causing the pollution. They can continue business as usual.
I think most of the sugar growing is done south of the Lake Okeechobee
You know how it is the fanjul family says” jump” and the water management district says “how high” that’s how it’s always been
@@edwardroche2480 - the video specifically stated that much of the pollution is from the sugar plantations. I didn't verify their information.
Could this be related to the “Spinning Fish” phenomenon in the keys?
The nitrogen creates algae blooms in heat that kill all oxygen in water. The phosphorus sinks to bottom and costs the sea bed destroying life on bottom.
Of course it is.
i remember when there was water hyacnith all over -the water was pretty clean and didnt remember algae blooms then-seems one could produce hyacinth that is sterile-aka cant reproduce and stock it into areas to help clean the water-say those retention ponds south of big sugar-maybe not a total solution but one that could contribute
i remember cattails!!!!
Could this be a reason for the fish spin syndrome?
The Everglades being a natural sponge to clean water and protect the ocean now needs help from those that poisoned it. How about the sugar companies don’t past the bill for the cleanup? Isn’t the tax payer paying for their mess just socialism for the rich?
Let's save the Everglades and Lake Okeechobee. 😢🙏
You can smell the smoke from the burning sugar fields at my home in the Florida Keys
But tell me again why you don't need regulations to protect your environment....
What about Corporate Agriculture ?
Will there be changes forced on fertilization techniques or timing?
All this money spent downstream after the water is already polluted.
It's already starting. Seen it this week in the indian river
I used to boat the Calusahatchee River and barrier islands.
It just got too nasty.
My wife couldn’t go within a mile of the water because it made it hard to breathe.
Great work.
The entire peninsula used to be the largest coral colony that ever existed.
Under am estimated 90 feet of water.
And it can return to that.
Funny how parts of Florida flood from heavy rain for months on end while at the same time other parts of Florida get not a drop of rain during the same period. There's plenty of high and dry areas here in parts of central Florida. Too bad that water can't be sent up to saturate those wide-open areas most often affected by drought and where the water table is lowest, rather than dump it into the ocean where then no one can even go near the beaches due to the stench.
Fortunately there’s a major restoration process underway.💙💙💙
Agriculture and the fertilizer companies must help with this problem.
The Everglades should never have been altered in the first place. That said a lot of the land that the people live on and complain about wouldn't be where they are without the change. Now it's being altered to fix the screw up. It won't be without consequences I'm sure.
Great work
Hmmmm? And this is done by a government agency???
A lake it's a toxic waste retaining pond
in my childhood it was crystalline. absolute heaven
What’s Roland Martins take on this? Son!
Sugar is racist! That's probably his take
But it's a mystery as to why the fish are swimming in circles????
2030? cmon me and the boys could get that done this year
This why all the fish are spinning and dying the phosphorus and chemicals from farming runoff into the ocean burning them out the water.
Why is it always to little to late?
It’s a start,better than doing nothing.
Why can’t they reuse that water back to irrigation??
Oh man this can become very bad very fast. They are making steps in the right direction, but the harm won't stop until the restoration is complete, unfortunately.
Born and raised in Vero Beach FL in 86. This is not the 1st time you the "core engineer's" have failed us. Step up and make a difference. Also the people of earth. Do we really need all the waste we produce? Let's all check ourselves and make a clean place to grow, love, live. Not one person can do all things, but every person can do one thing, together we CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Respect yourself and respect where you live.
They could as example stop polluting the lake with fertalizer... but what do I know
Army core of engineers keeps screwing up ecosystems all over the USA and it takes time to see what will happen it’s unfolding in Florida 😮
So that's what's killing the fish from key Biscayne all the way to the keys ...
You need to introduce a species of urchins that eat algea
mushrooms too
Stop the fertilizers!
But we worrying about Diddy when its real things actually going on
You were the only one who brought him up! I don’t see him mentioned in these comments, except for you mentioning him. You just gave power to him, congratulations!
But we have to know....diddy or diddy not🤔
@@FullSpectrumDoula idiot the news channel keep bringing him up.
@@savage.4.24 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Weapons of mass distraction
so all these year this been happening they knew the entire time
you have to vote them out
If everyone knew how many 1000's of gallons of Roundup was used in that lake by the FWC every year, then you'd know where the pollution comes from. FWC has boats with 2 - 50 gallon containers for daily usage.
Mass die offs and habitat destruction but she mentions the economy. I am Tired of corporate income being the only focus of media.
Big Sugar always will get their way. You wont understand this comment unless youve lived by the lake. Dixie Sugar Corp has wayy to much influence, they've been the largest single handed poluters of Florida lived in okeechobee for 52 years, not a fricking thing changes. Politicians dont care about the environment, just money
Let me get this right, they creayed the problem while claming to fix it and now thete claming to do sonething else to fix it?😮
And they were trying to act surprised why the sawtooths and other marine life were dying off.
Plus all them Fish going crazy and dying in the Keys, the Ocean is dying from our pollution.
Look up for thy redemption draws neigh
Save that crap for snake church
@@richardmesser1091
Look up for your redemption draweth nigh you heathen.
Sadly solution to pollution is dilution. The issue here appears the dilution timeline. Ideally this would be done going into a period with colder climate (when waters are not warm contributing to issues). Unfortunately this is storm water from the colder winter months that were unusually wet this year. Obviously you can’t leave the water levels high going into hurricane season so the water level must be lowered. As video mentions balance of risks.
Now why there are no talks of constructing underwater pipelines that terminate many miles offshore to speed the dilution process with less environmental impact is not understandable.
You can debate this all you want but situation will not change without serious infrastructure or major social changes (going to take more than drinking your iced tea unsweet).
They need to figure out a way to treat the water in the lake.
No one is talking about the water that feeds the lake 🤦🏻♂️
The lake is polluted because of the water from the north.
Why not deal with the incoming pollution before it gets to the lake….
Ya think this has something to do with the fish acting weird and sawfish showing up dying in the Keys!
why don't they make energy out of the water?
Sea level rise means what to Floridians?
Wow 😢😮
Once this makes the news it's probably to late to fix
Make the lake bigger
Dude, that’s a great point! I wonder if it costs more, that’s why they haven’t done it already?
And if it was bigger, you can facilitate more flow points to different areas of the state.
@@donovanwalkerjr Not really sure, first thing came to mind however there are probably so many reason why they haven't?
What are they pouring into that lake? This is nasty.
It's not millions, it's billions. I'm in Stuart and we get 1.2 billion a day from lake O. 😢
Do you measure it yourself? Or is it just a special gift being from stuart provides? Im curious as to what being from stuart makes you able to determine the amount of discharge? Im against this crap also but those kinds of bs comments don't help with anything. Work to force the sugar growers to shut down. Work to stop the phosphorus industry from selling pollutants to our agriculture industry. Stop the phosphorus mining that pollutes the water. But most of all, stop voting for greedy politicians that the moment they get to Tallahassee become silent employees of those industries. This is all the result of good ol boy politics and corruption.
Leave it to Florida to ruin the water & blame the Corps of engineers while not regulating the runoff from farmers!
Humans tryna do the gods work an wondering why its going wrong 😂
Its not the corps fault. Its Tallahassee being owned by sugar growers and other ag industries that do very little in return for the damage they cause
“Welcone to Florids, folks.. Enjoy the water, just dont get any on you!”
Fertilizer needs to be regulated. The everyday landscaper needs to be prohibited from using it. This is a fix that can help start getting things back into balance again.
The #1 polluter, sugar farms.
Uh been known by science since 1970s no one wants to pay for the huge expense of Lake Okeechobee water filtration plant. No one wants to turn off the nitrogen pollution by agriculture. No one wants to treat water of a billion homes on septics. Florida is dumping an incalculable amount of imported nitrogen and phosphorus on land. That load is killing the waterways.
Beware of the big Sugar industrial complex
If you consume sugar in any shape or form, you contributed (and continue to contribute) to this.
Took time and money to F it up. The Army Corps of Engineers unbroken circle/cluster F!!! continues.
What a F’ing JOKE.
I knew it was 60 years ago but…the $.
Disgusting