Will This NEW Trackman A.I. Program END GOLF coaching forever?
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Hi Brendon this is Alan Nasypany.
Super cool video. I had a couple of initial thoughts about this. 1st, the number one rule of motor learning is don’t tell someone how to do it, but change the environment so that they are forced to change toward optimal. More lasting changes happen through exploration and an internal feeling/understanding that the new pattern is easier, better or both. Telling someone what to do (e.g., positions) usually doesn’t work or last. Changing ball position might work, but if the ball post wasn’t the issue, the change won’t consistently work. You could easily change swing direction by reacting to a barrier (if you are negatively oriented) or by slow motion drilling or feeling imagery if you are more positively oriented in learning approaches. So much deliciousness here!
The second thought is that there are essentially 2 or 3 main schools of thought about the golf swing, most coaches only teach one. You have done a GREAT job in the last couple of years of selecting folks to work with that don’t give you totally contradictory info. I think maybe they could give some examples from the different swing schools of thought, you pick the closest one (or AI) does, then you get suggestions from experts within that area.
If they could do that through great motor learning principles it would be even better (and rare).
Thanks for the video and for sharing:)
Alan
So we need skills to put objects in the way to accomplish the changes. BRENDON can you help with that? Teach us a few principles and examples.
It is obvious watching his swing that he coming over the top a little. His take-away and backswing are fine, but then he moves his swing path higher and more leftward (an inside to outside loop). It it moves at all it should move the other way - down and slightly to the right. Trck,am isn't necessary to see it, although it is more precise than a set of eyes. It also is not possible to argue with or question the accuracy of a machine. It is interesting how he almost stopped doing the loop when the ball was moved one ball width back.
Great video I actually reached out to Alex and have an appointment with him because of you. Thank you for the channel can't wait to see what you do with Milo that dude is a beast!
Nice one! looking forward to the collab with Milo, it is going to be incredible and the amount insights would be amazing!
Hi Brenden, Not sure you see old post comments. I think you are probably the most knowledgeable person on the planet when it comes to improving golf skill(s). That being said, please tell me what one device or idea would help someone improve their ball striking better than anything else? I was thinking that trying to practice hitting the ball as low as possible would be the best way to do it? It's actually helped me immensely. I'm not getting any younger. I keep shooting in the 80's and I'm better than that. My wedge game is my worst skill (approach shots, not pitching or chipping). I'm actually a better pitcher/chipper than most people I play with, but the approach shots (100 to 130) suck! Thanks, Kurt
Bingo!! There you have it. Nice video.
Question.. do your feet tend to get a little sore from using the ground efficiently?
Good stuff, more A.I. please, love this awesome content.
Great stuff, 10 shots with a 4 iron and a 7 iron with diff ball positions will help show the best ball pos to hit consistantly
Simulators are the way to go man. Best thing I did was get a gc2 and drop my coach who put way too many swing thoughts in my head and made me overt mechanical. My swing is better and I play better now. Ball speed and start line are key for me.
How do u use it? Driving range mode? How do you make a change using it?
BE BETTER GOLF mostly driving range mode but I have all the courses as well. I take it out to the actual range or the course when it’s not busy from time to time as well. I read up on the ball flight laws a few years back and just focused on strike first. Once strike was solid, I then worked on curvature. That’s where start line is so key. For me, I like to see a ball start more or less around 0* (straight). It can vary a degree or two, but I work hard to start the ball on line. When I do that, that means my face is square. If the ball draws, assuming a solid strike, that means my path was to the right a bit. If I fade it, that means my path was a bit left. For me, I try to swing straight and keep the face as square so as to reduce my curvature. I don’t want to see a sling ball. Not even with driver. I might miss it a little right or a little left, but the ball generally flies pretty straight since I have worked on my start line. To work on start line, I recommend starting with pitches and chips. Get the ball starting at 0. Gradually work up to fill swings. The ball starts where the face is pointed, so if your grip is neutral, and you don’t do anything crazy in your swing, you should be able to start the ball straight. If you don’t have a sim, use an alignment stick. You can lay it down in front of your ball pointed at target and just feel the ball fly over that stick. Or you can do the Morikawa drill by sticking it in the ground several yards in front of you toward target. Work on trying to get the ball to start on top of, or even hit, the stick. Youd be surprised how straight you can hit the ball jusy by trying to hit it on your line. The sim and even the stick drill give you instant feedback. You can see the ball and whether it flies on your line. The next step is to try to keep the ball on that line as long as you can. That’s where path comes in. If you’re curving it too much, your path is too different t from that face and gotta fix it.
BE BETTER GOLF additionally, you become accustomed to feeling strike. Ball speed helps you track it and it actually improves your feel because you can quantify in mph your strike. You get to where you know how solid you hit it and develop a tight range of ball speed. The number merely affirms what you’re feeling. I like ball speed more than club head speed because when you chance ball speed, you chase efficiency and solid strike. Combine ball speed with start line, you’re really close. Then, as I noted, it’s just about reducing your curve, or at least managing it to a predictable flight.
Hi Brendan, thanks for the videos. Do you also get to play much? It looks like you can play well. What sort of handicap do you currently play?
I like your videos especially those with Mike Malaska, both lessons and walking through holes. He seems to be a real sportsman.
What teacher gives the most effective advice/lessons. i.e. what teacher will get me from 16 ( I was 10 briefly) to 6 in the shortest time? Jim Venetos claims his method will get me from 20 to 6 in a few months. Do you have any experience with him or his method? What’s your opinion?
All the best,
Mark
P.S. are you a programmer when not golfing and doing videos?
Wow this technology sounds like a lot of fun!! Id spend hours practicing with this instant feedback. Too bad this costs a fortune!
EdgeMasterrLoL in a couple of years they will combine more fun things to this to make the exploration aspect of it much more fun. Maybe not trackman but this type of training is the cutting edge of new motor learn long for golf if you can capture exactly what the ball and club are doing through impact.
@@BEBETTERGOLF Yep, super interested to see what is to come!
Feels like this practise will really translate to the course well !!!
Great technology. Great video too.👍
Cool Vid bro, you always do the stuff I wish I could afford:)
You should do a progress video, your game from when you started the channel until now and how much your scores have actually improved, how “Better You Be”.
So on takeaway hands rolling too far inside Clubhead gets too inside. So the AI fix is a hand path on downswing and ball position?
Mark Wylam I think that was a super cool golf course fix (could save your round), but probably not a long-term, although we didn’t actually see, and it didn’t look like he checked ball position. Video is also edited, so we might never know.
It is also possible, that even though you seem correct about the backswing and convention says fix the first issue that occurs, the ball is too forward causing a pre-swing compensation and that the take away issue is actually caused by bad (or not ideal for him) ball position. I’m not sure if we will know that, but it’s certainly worth exploring (at least to me). Golf is weird, fun, and challenging.
Can you add a link to the Bender hip drill you mentioned in video? Thanks.
ruclips.net/video/Gk_dlyuQQUc/видео.html
6:40 into that video! Thanks
BE BETTER GOLF thank you
If you were to go back in time knowing everything you now know, and you had just 2 hours a week to practice and played once a week, and you wanted to score and play your absolute best every time, how would you achieve it? Can you tell us in just 10 minutes?
Mark M gotta think about that. Weekly 1/2 hour lessons locally have been helping. Lots of other things. Might make a video
Neat one B.
Your swing direction wont change until you stop swinging with your hands and arms. For you that is the feeling of swinging in-to-out but it is that thought is having you to leave your hands behind as your lower body starts to go.
Yeah I’m taking weekly lessons from a local coach and we are working on a few things. Noticed when I set the shaft wider and steeper going back it reverses the loop of my hands in transition. Tough change
@@BEBETTERGOLF It is tough to feel,, it's a bizarre feeling to leave your hands behind you. I'm still working on it - about 10,000 more range balls and I think I'll have it.
Sounds like a great way to get stuck.
Tim Bryant no.... you get stuck when you shallow the club too much.
Shallow the club too much? Not many amateurs have that problem, but many get stuck so not sure how you reconcile that. I used to get stuck a lot and it was because my body would outrace my arms. All good players lower their arms at the start of the bs. You don't "leave them up there. "
But Tracy didn't tell you to move ball back in stance..the coach did
Yeah. Tracy won’t ever tell u HOW to do something
Grip, aim, posture and ball position... looks like Jack Grout was correct
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Small OTT. But it bothers me that track man is st trial and error teaching at the few inches before and after the ball. If you work on your transition at the top it should help more than trying to manipulate around the ball
Hey man. We want to see your swing on gears. If you don’t mind.
This is just the beginning. AI will ultimately replace coaches by telling the student what to change first, second third etc to shorten the learning curve; getting from a to b. AI will draw upon the results of millions of golfers taking into account age, strength, range of motion coordination, etc etc.
I think you are right. Only thing missing is a database of things to try when you want to accomplish something and then see the effect. So in this case their could have been a database of things to try to get path more to the right
How do you draw it if you're coming from out to in? ARGHHH
Family dog on notice!! Lol
I highly recommend you check out Larry Chung golf on RUclips and maybe do a video with him. Truthfully no one else on RUclips has helped me with my swing as much as him.
Even a guy with one eye can see you’re coming over the top. You’re way inside with your right hand from takeaway.
I would not call this over the top. To my eye, he has a slight hitch in his swing but he still comes from the inside. There you go. Your eye sees one thing. Mine sees something slightly different. So maybe the AI can set us both straight. No guessing.
Peter S Use your other eye😜
Somewhat clever yet very standardized. By the book. It might interest you to note that Sam Snead had an inside- over move, but he still struck the ball from the inside. I heard he had a pretty smooth swing and won a boatload of tournaments. The record speaks for itself.
Peter S No one is disputing Sam Snead’s swing.
@@randywatson9585 definitely over the top...out to in
great that it doesn't marginalise non cookie-cutter swings. tracy looks like a game changer.
It’s a start
I don’t do Kungflu
Learn to wear a face mask. Not covering your nose just makes it a fancy chinstrap. Pretty distracting from the content of the video.
Shut up Karen
Face coverings are effective at reducing transmission(see Annals of Internal Med may22 2020). Not wearing properly reduces filtration. Face covering is not as important as limiting exposure by social distancing which for the most part was done in the video. Any effort from fellow citizens is appreciated.
@@daved976 Covidiot
@Sugar Dunkerton very good discernment
@@grizztrax7716 well said
Dude....if you're only going to half wear the face mask why not wear it over your nose not your mouth so your voice sounds better?
steve- no mask at all would be best