After watching this i had to send it to my singer and give him props cuz he set are iem rack up all by himself. I didn't realize it was sort of a headache. Awesome video, great for reference for anybody setting theirs up.
Good stuff! One thing you should definitely invest in as well: a separate wifi router. The built in XR18/MR18 router will fail you in a live setting where the WIFI spectrum might be crowded. Buy yourself a better router (not a lot of $$$) and connect it with an ethernet cable to the XR18. Explanation can be found on the internet. That way you everyone can connect to the WAY stronger wifi network and access the XR18.
Super informative video. I love this kind of stuff. It would be awesome to see a wiring diagram that shows how everything connects together. Could be a perk for Patrons since it would take some extra work.
Cool stuff! I had no idea IEM systems were so much more complicated than I had previously believed. The two separate racks being combined also makes a lot of sense!
I know nothing about guitar rigs, MIDI…none of that stuff. I can barely handle using NeuralDSP. But for some reason these rig builds are fascinating to me 😂
Good job! But imo you will quickly regret relying on that DB25 connector between the 2 cases. Those are not meant to be plugged and unplugged all the time, especially not in dark/stressful conditions and will probably break down sooner than later. I would have gone for standard xlr in this case: more reliable and easy to replace/repair.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing this. Can you explain (maybe a video?) how you change patches through midi? I use Ableton Live with a helix floor and can't seem to make them work properly for that.
Okay, so how’d yall get your quads to sit in the drawer? Did yall get new screws and basically permanently attach it to the drawer? Y hat’s what I did and I want to make sure somebody else has done this and it’s been okay lol I’m super scared of the screws snapping out of no where
Wow, I’m super impressed with Sweetwater lately. I also got very hype when I saw the XAir18 because I have one aswell. :))) So cool to see how you guys are wiring/utilizing it, thanks for being so transparent! 💪🏼
Andrew - you’re using midi to control your whammy’s right? If so, why not just swap the QCs and the whammy’s? Like put the QCs in the front and move the whammy’s to the back of the drawer so you can access them.
I thought about this but unfortunately since all the IO is on the back of the QC we can’t since that all has to be accessible to plug into and whatnot at the back of the shelves
What did you do with the antennas from the Sennheiser EW-D units (the guitar wireless receivers)? The way I understand it, it's not possible to connect them to a combiner such as the RF Venue Combine4 which you use with the Audio Technica IEM transmitter. This is confusing me :/
Cool runthrough - curious to know why the decision to not route any drums through was made. Is that a limitation on rack size assuming you're making everything fit to particular sized racks as a focus, so maybe a second splitter taking up space would be too much? How does your drummer feel about not being able to monitor their kit whilst playing? (i'm not a drummer so curious to know what this experience is like!)
I'm more shocked than anything that you use 2 Quad Cortexes! I figured one plus some controller pedals would be enough. Not judging, of course, just wild to me.
@@BaenaCarcosa Why wouldn't you use a beefy laptop to handle signal chain instead of both QCs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the laptop goes down, all the stuff dies with it anyway because no backing tracks and midi automation
It's not needed, Quad Cortex can do it, but across the board it's preferred to use DigiTech Drop products over other pitch shifting. Maybe you prefer Kemper's pitch shifting which is fine but the current standard is DigiTech Drop for pitch shifting.
Maybe it's just me being old school but this just seems like overcomplications to me and over reliance on technology for the sake of it. I personally prefer my rig to be compact, just a pedalboard/floor unit with a good ampsim straight to a stereo DI, entire rig fits in a pedalboard bag. I don't like midi programming especially one dependent on a DAW, I like to be in control of my rig all the time. I don't like inears almost at all as I prefer my ears to be open and listen to the entire venue, be always in communication with the other instruments and not have a sterile studio like experience. I absolutely can't stand click tracks in my ears because the drummer exists, and it always sounds better when the instruments are following the drummer and interacting with him. If it needs to be super tight having the drummer with a click is more than enough. When it comes to monitoring I've never had a problem with having a wedge in front and had the best results with both a wedge and a cab behind me, when it comes to space I'd prefer bringing a 2x12 than this rack that's the same size. The less reliance on tech the less things that can go wrong, I'll never want to have a Falling In Reverse situation when I'll have to cancel a show because the laptop got stolen. It's easier to just not rely on that than to have to also practice around a workaround
We got so tired of the house engineers being totally incompetent at providing a decent mix to FOH a well as any monitors. The reality is that most engineers at small venues have no clue what they are doing. It’s not exactly a cool job to want. We run our own monitor split so at least we can hear ourselves and sound ok in our ears. Nothing sucks more than playing live and getting a terrible monitor mix.
0:53 Discord gang knows the whole other story... Also wish you'd have shown the building part a bit longer and stopped to explain every component instead... Rad stuff tho.
Why do you all need click tracks in your ears as you're playing live?? and you're also deciding to mute other band member's live tracks? so you're all not even hearing the full product of the song the same way as the audience is. Weird.
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HUGE thank you to Sweetwater for providing this gear! You can see a list of all the parts used here:
sweetwater.sjv.io/JzYOQ2
After watching this i had to send it to my singer and give him props cuz he set are iem rack up all by himself. I didn't realize it was sort of a headache. Awesome video, great for reference for anybody setting theirs up.
Guitar - cable - amp go choog choog
Anything more and my brain melts
Good stuff! One thing you should definitely invest in as well: a separate wifi router.
The built in XR18/MR18 router will fail you in a live setting where the WIFI spectrum might be crowded.
Buy yourself a better router (not a lot of $$$) and connect it with an ethernet cable to the XR18. Explanation can be found on the internet.
That way you everyone can connect to the WAY stronger wifi network and access the XR18.
Super informative video. I love this kind of stuff. It would be awesome to see a wiring diagram that shows how everything connects together. Could be a perk for Patrons since it would take some extra work.
This has been a huge help in setting up my IEM rig for my band, thanks!
Cool stuff! I had no idea IEM systems were so much more complicated than I had previously believed. The two separate racks being combined also makes a lot of sense!
Oh, that Loathe instrumental on the background is amazing 🥺
I know nothing about guitar rigs, MIDI…none of that stuff. I can barely handle using NeuralDSP. But for some reason these rig builds are fascinating to me 😂
greystone for life
Good job! But imo you will quickly regret relying on that DB25 connector between the 2 cases. Those are not meant to be plugged and unplugged all the time, especially not in dark/stressful conditions and will probably break down sooner than later. I would have gone for standard xlr in this case: more reliable and easy to replace/repair.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing this. Can you explain (maybe a video?) how you change patches through midi? I use Ableton Live with a helix floor and can't seem to make them work properly for that.
A sad cartoon instrumental was a nice touch
I’ve had our xr18 mounted to the rear rack facing in for years and never seen anyone else do it until now glad I’m not crazy!
I wish I had a few tens of thousand dollars to make cool guitar gear.
Same. Imagine the cost of building this. Jesus christ
I don't, why would I need a professional rig unless I play professional (in which case,,, tax write off as a professional related expense)
Eddie Trunk just had a seizure
Always wanted one thankss
I'm a huge nerd for stuff like this!
Thanks.
Can you do a video on how to get the quad cortex to change presets and tones automatically thru midi
Okay, so how’d yall get your quads to sit in the drawer? Did yall get new screws and basically permanently attach it to the drawer?
Y hat’s what I did and I want to make sure somebody else has done this and it’s been okay lol I’m super scared of the screws snapping out of no where
INSANE
Wow, I’m super impressed with Sweetwater lately. I also got very hype when I saw the XAir18 because I have one aswell. :))) So cool to see how you guys are wiring/utilizing it, thanks for being so transparent! 💪🏼
Now consider using an M audio B.Beat instead of a laptop. One less component to hook up. I friggin Love that device.
Andrew - you’re using midi to control your whammy’s right? If so, why not just swap the QCs and the whammy’s? Like put the QCs in the front and move the whammy’s to the back of the drawer so you can access them.
I thought about this but unfortunately since all the IO is on the back of the QC we can’t since that all has to be accessible to plug into and whatnot at the back of the shelves
What did you do with the antennas from the Sennheiser EW-D units (the guitar wireless receivers)? The way I understand it, it's not possible to connect them to a combiner such as the RF Venue Combine4 which you use with the Audio Technica IEM transmitter. This is confusing me :/
If he's talking about the combiner, doesn't he essentially mean a "splitter"?
Cool runthrough - curious to know why the decision to not route any drums through was made. Is that a limitation on rack size assuming you're making everything fit to particular sized racks as a focus, so maybe a second splitter taking up space would be too much? How does your drummer feel about not being able to monitor their kit whilst playing? (i'm not a drummer so curious to know what this experience is like!)
Maybe i missed something but what about drums?
but how do you tune with the quad in there?
I'm more shocked than anything that you use 2 Quad Cortexes! I figured one plus some controller pedals would be enough.
Not judging, of course, just wild to me.
I do not trust it enough to use one for both guitar signals haha, even if it is advertised as having that capability
@@BaenaCarcosa Why wouldn't you use a beefy laptop to handle signal chain instead of both QCs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the laptop goes down, all the stuff dies with it anyway because no backing tracks and midi automation
How do you get the drums?
Song during the time lapse?
Loathe - A Sad Cartoon
What access point are you using? I hope it's not the behringer internal one :D
How narrow is the field of that antenna?
Seriously you need a whammy to do pitchshifting on a quad cortex? Just one more reason why kemper is better...
It's not needed, Quad Cortex can do it, but across the board it's preferred to use DigiTech Drop products over other pitch shifting. Maybe you prefer Kemper's pitch shifting which is fine but the current standard is DigiTech Drop for pitch shifting.
Do I hear 115 in the background lol
The rambling tho… 😂
🤘🏽🎃🤘🏽
Maybe it's just me being old school but this just seems like overcomplications to me and over reliance on technology for the sake of it.
I personally prefer my rig to be compact, just a pedalboard/floor unit with a good ampsim straight to a stereo DI, entire rig fits in a pedalboard bag.
I don't like midi programming especially one dependent on a DAW, I like to be in control of my rig all the time.
I don't like inears almost at all as I prefer my ears to be open and listen to the entire venue, be always in communication with the other instruments and not have a sterile studio like experience. I absolutely can't stand click tracks in my ears because the drummer exists, and it always sounds better when the instruments are following the drummer and interacting with him. If it needs to be super tight having the drummer with a click is more than enough.
When it comes to monitoring I've never had a problem with having a wedge in front and had the best results with both a wedge and a cab behind me, when it comes to space I'd prefer bringing a 2x12 than this rack that's the same size.
The less reliance on tech the less things that can go wrong, I'll never want to have a Falling In Reverse situation when I'll have to cancel a show because the laptop got stolen. It's easier to just not rely on that than to have to also practice around a workaround
We got so tired of the house engineers being totally incompetent at providing a decent mix to FOH a well as any monitors. The reality is that most engineers at small venues have no clue what they are doing. It’s not exactly a cool job to want. We run our own monitor split so at least we can hear ourselves and sound ok in our ears. Nothing sucks more than playing live and getting a terrible monitor mix.
Who else is still a little confused about all of this stuff 😅
0:53 Discord gang knows the whole other story...
Also wish you'd have shown the building part a bit longer and stopped to explain every component instead... Rad stuff tho.
This should just be in your rider… You just bring your buds.
Why do you all need click tracks in your ears as you're playing live?? and you're also deciding to mute other band member's live tracks? so you're all not even hearing the full product of the song the same way as the audience is. Weird.
Super sick video! Would be awesome if you did a breakdown video of how you set up the midi switching of the presets with the computer
what song is playing from 7:09
Loathe - A Sad Cartoon