My dad and stepmother were murdered 2002. Seeing the progress these detectives put into the case was mind blowing 🤯. The detectives I will always be thankful for them. They took it as they lost a family member too
Same, Kathryn. Thank you for standing up for law enforcement, Libtards are doing all they can right now to throw all first responders under the bus, mainly because they would never have the courage themselves tor respond to dangerous situations. Sickening, but there you go, that is the world we currently live in.
Kathryn Equils, I am so sorry for your great loss. Sometimes we tend to forget that the people in these videos are real people not Justa video. I hope you have found peace. I cannot even imagine what that would feel like to have a loved one murdered. My son lost his life and a very avoidable vehicle accident. The person driving the truck could have avoided the accident just by looking closer . As bad as this hurts still after 4 years I'm thankful it was not through murder. God bless bless you and peace be with you
Scott Dunn's remains were found in 2012. He was buried a few doors down from where he lived, maintenance workers found his skeleton when they were digging for construction work. RIP Scott, after 21 years, you were finally brought home.
@@Landis_Grant they deserve every minute in jail that they received but yes, it would have been comforting for his family to properly lay him to rest sooner.
This episode regarding the murdered son and his disappearance just broke my heart for his father. I cannot begin to understand his pain and loss. To have him accept the invitation from the Vidocq Society speaks to his love and dedication for others in similar circumstances.
Scott’s body was finally found in 2012! Maintenance men found his body buried apparently just near the apartment he was murdered. Glad the family was able to put him to rest. Leisha and Tim never admitted the location of the body. Pieces of trash they are! 🤬
@@raechelweir8861 yeah it is totally dodgy but I think they just wouldn’t want to think like that - plus they aren’t thinking clearly they just lost a child
It would never hurt anyone of my ex girlfriend but it wouldn’t feel like seeing her corpse and so I would appear guilty because I would like to remember her as a healthy woman and so I am just voice my thoughts about it and so sorry for your family loss and he will get what coming to him in hell
Had to wait to @29:10 to get get the joke. Alicia thought that Scott loved her very much but was shocked that the guy loved his precious cars than she.
@@whopiddledonyourposttoasti175 oh gosh! How traumatic it would have been for the poor person to find him. Happy his family has him back though, thank you.
Deep down, the family knew immediately (the fiance didn't want to be late for work making pizzas?) but they only incidentally told investigators 15 years later. I'd be suspicious and mention to the police if the fiance didn't remain a friend of the family, didn't cry at the funeral, etc.
@@hamanamanama2263 Never completely believe police stories .. police LIE ALL THE TIME to cover their carelessness and errors .. TV programs rarely criticize the police because if they do police will stop talking to them!
That's what I was thinking, about the parents and that her friends never mentioned that they were surprised she even got engaged to him because he was jealous
The police investigation was odd, period. Don't they as a matter of course check out the romantic partner? Vet that person before moving on? It seemed obvious that she knew her killer, that she'd let the person in--with her shoes under the desk and her desk still untidied, indications that the killer arrived while she was still at work. Also, the plastic bag over her face--an indication of shame/guilt. Plus, yes, even without the boyfriend's (very) odd behavior, what about the simple fact that he often spent time with her at her workplace at night? Strange.
It occurs to me that the reason he didn't want to go to identify her was that the injuries she had inflicted on him would have been noticed. It's shocking that he wasn't interviewed immediately-Routine police work should have cleared this up in no time.
We do not will not have murders if if the penalty is higher. I believe in the death penalty But it should not take 10 to 20 years We should bring back the firing squad After conviction the very next week they should be killed.
@@jonathangoodwin646 there a few reasons why that wont happen. 1. The Death penalty is no deterrent. If it was to simply have the death penalty would reduce murder rates. The murder rate per 100 000 citizens hasnt changed in Australia since figures were kept in late 1890s. Constant figure with the death penalty, without the death penalty, and no change after semi auto firearms were banned. Look it up Australian Bureau Statistiscs dot gov dot AU. FYI the gun ban was 97. So you'd look at figures from 2000 to 2010. Or 2010 to 2020. 2. Prisons are total cash cows. Private companies have no interest in killing off their slave labour. And they are big political donors so what they say goes
The dude playing the manager of a Texas car stereo place from the early 90’s- looks like how you’d picture a Texas car stereo shop manager from the early 90’s.
Terri Brooks's actor fiance looked guilty from the moment I saw him! Why they didn't look at him more closely initially is puzzling, especially as the crime scene was so brutal.
He went to her parents, claiming he was concerned that her car wasn't parked in her driveway, had cleaned up the crime scene, before staging it, not a single fingerprint linked him to the crime, they didn't have the technology back then to do such an intricate, sophisticated DNA analysis, blood was found inside the wooden handle of the knife. skin under her nails, hair in her hardened fists. the girlfriend in the 2nd story also cooperated with police, showing them the cut carpet behind the sofa, mentioning her other boyfriend-stalker-accomplice. Although if only Tim committed the crime Alicia's hair would also be in that carpet; given the fact that she lived in that bedroom and apartment. And possibly cheated on her fiancé with her neighbor or side boyfriend, there. Mr. Dunn may have successfully pulled off a Gone Girl m framing.
I’m surprised also that they didn’t send the hair samples off to the UK who were having success with DNA testing at that time (see the Peter Sutcliffe case from 1981)
I'm sure i would display ALL the reactions described in the event of someone lying during a polygraph test. I have anxiety. Hell, i react like that in a regular social situation or going through airport security 😆😬
This is why, thankfully, it isn't used as proof of guilt in court, as far as I know. People can be nervous even while perfectly innocent. I am definitely one of those people.
@@boshowa0840 me too and that's why i wouldn't take one. innocent people have failed them and guilty people have passed them. i was just reading about the case of anita cahill, who killed her young lover in 1992. shortly after the murder she took the test and passed. she got away with murder for 25 years until a woman who was a child at the time confessed that she heard anita talking to herself, apologizing for killing her lover all those years ago. if it hadn't been for that, she probably would have continued to get away with it. i think also that the green river killer took a polygraph and passed too.
That's why they ask a bunch of neutral questions to establish a baseline reading -- what's normal for you. If you're naturally nervous, that'll probably show up on every question, but that'll be expected if they've got the baseline right. It's more of an art than a science, but I think it's generally pretty reliable if performed by a qualified expert.
1984- Pennsylvania- The restaurant manager, Terry Brooks,25 years old, was found stabbed and brutally murdered and her boyfriend did not know who could have killed her but he did not want to go to the hospital to identify his girl friend Terry and it took 15 years to catch the killer.
@@pamelamorris3148 but his excuse was that it would make him late for work...he actually went to work after finding out his gf was brutally murdered. How he wasn't a suspect is beyond me.
Alicia got 20 years and her boyfriend Tim got just probation??? This was a miscarriage of justice since DNA proved the hair found was from both of them. These two losers should have gotten 35 to 40 years in prison without parole. Unbelievable disgraceful. My heart goes out to the parents of Scott who lost their son because of a crazy woman who couldn’t let go. May Scott Rest In Peace always. 🙏🙏🙏
I was ounce told having a child is like having your heart outside your body walking around. I can only imagine the pain of losing a child especially to a violent/unexpected death no matter the age their child is at death.
I can’t believe that anyone who has his blood taken and consent to a polygraph requested by the police could fail to realize he’s a suspect. I’m so glad her father lived to see her case solved and her murderer convicted. I’m assuming he was still alive at that point since the story didn’t say otherwise.
I've had my blood taken and consented to a polygraph exam. In my case it was the fastest way to prove my innocence in a he say she say incident. Thankfully it was mistaken identity and I was cleared and freed.
@@ginestrian In most cases a polygraph isn't admissible, but in some cases, it is! Twenty three states still consider polygraph tests to be admissible in court. However, the majority of those states require the approval of both parties before they can be submitted. Also, in most cases, the polygraph test is not being used in a criminal case, but rather in civil court, such as if there was an issue that prevented a person from getting a job or gaining security clearance.
I agree. I get so thrilled whenever these pathetic criminals are caught because of forensic evidence and DNA. I think all these pathetic murderers should all be sentenced to death when the evidence is irrefutable are guilty of murder and all appeals should be dismissed. Their executions to be immediately carried out within two years. No plea bargain deal accepted.
It's fiction but Isaac Asimov has a series of short mysteries called "The Black Widowers" that are fun and interesting. It's a group that meets and discusses crimes or problems a guest needs solved.
@@suzannewilliam-james9744 I've read the Isaac Asimov stories multiple times. I can't remember if I've read The Murder Room. It's now on my list to track down.
Sloppy policing Scott Keith should have been "In the Frame" from the get go, as he was "Known" to the victim and his BS stoppage at her house the morning after killing her.
I don’t understand how so many cases go unsolved because the Police don’t follow basic tenants of investigation. You investigate those close to the victim and work your way out. If other suspects come along, investigate them too.
I'm sorry but how can u have a woman working late on her own with no kind of security after the disabled and the elderly and women are the most vulnerable.
Scott's dad Jim Dunn is to be commended for joining the Vidocq Society. Helping other parents face their tragedies. I learned Scott's remains were recovered in 2016. May he now rest in peace.
The whole ‘we can’t get your dna unless it’s abandoned trash’ always strikes me as an absurd work around instead of just saying ‘we suspect you of a crime and your dna will either incriminate or exonerate you so give it to us’.
They have to have enough evidence for a warrant to get dna just like anything else. And sometimes they do ask people to give it to exonerate themselves. But if all else fails just take the garbage.
Poor investigation in the Terry Brookes case. Most victims knew their killer, the Police should have investigated friends and family just as a matter of routine.
You weren’t listening, so the faulty thinking lies with you. The narrator clearly stated why the police didn’t keep the fiancé on the list of suspects, starting with the fact that the crime scene clearly showed that robbery was the motive. The evidence strongly suggested that the robbers jumped Brooks outside, perhaps when taking out garbage, and then was brought inside where she was murdered. That’s why they gave the fiancé a pass; without knowing his personality, it never occurred to them that he might have doctored the evidence, bc nobody who was interviewed said anything really negative about him!! Not only that, there had also been other robberies of fast food restaurants in the city with similar crime scenes-barring murder-which again pointed to unknown assailants. Because the murder was presented as a burglary gone wrong, Brooks’ parents didn’t raise their suspicious about the fiancé, _whom they did not know at all well._ Because her former manager and friends heard it was a burglary gone wrong, they naturally didn’t share their concerns, and some weren’t interviewed. Not only that, but the police obviously didn’t have a “crime scene expert” on their payroll, and the expert from the Vidocq Society had worked with the FBI, not local law enforcement. Whatever the police “should have” done, you and I aren’t qualified to make that accusation, first of all bc we’re not crime experts and secondly bc we’ve only been presented with 20 minutes worth of information, a teeny portion....believe me, there was a whole lot of information we weren’t told bc it would turn an episode into a miniseries. Lastly, if the Vidocq Society didn’t blame the police, then nobody should, bc they were privy to everything, and they had expertise the local police department didn’t have.
Thank God for good people like this I believe God places people to do wonderful things to help others this is wonderful thank you for sharing this program sorry about Scott sad so sad my condolences to the family even though this may be an old video
Shouldn’t the fiancé and her other relatives be considered prime suspects before rigorous examination to clear them? Why waited 14 years and profiling to start considering him a suspect?
@@BrigitteGoodman , Why take a chance in not believing in God and Jesus while still living your life as you would? They are worth believing especially since the life you live is the nearly the same with or with believing... It's after death you should be worried about. For you, if there is nothing after death then you didn't lose anything while being alive but if there is a place after death... well, you know hell is the place you'd be going.
I don’t know why they thought Terry had been accosted outside then taken back in… it didn’t make any sense to me why her shoes would be on the floor next to her desk, in that scenario.
Oh my gosh! Before i got to the end of the video, my thought was why didn't they ascertain how much blood had been spilt and whether a person could have survived with the amount of blood loss. Without a body, that would have been my very first evidence to look at. What's wrong with these initial crime scene investigators?? Sigh.
My thought is that no one cuts out carpet to hide any amount of blood, even if the supposedly perpetrator states there was an accident and the victim bleed. Not normal behavior. Thank you for sharing the video. Have a great day!
Alrighty while it's not 100% of the time when this happens but if someone is repeatedly accusing you of being unfaithful, it's probably because _they_ are being unfaithful. Alicia accused Scott of being unfaithful, and yet _she_ had a relationship with Tim outside of hers and Scott's. Funny that...
Two guys named; "Scott." Scott Keefe and Scott Dunn. One a murderer, one a victim. (Sadly.) But, fortunately, Scott Dunn's remains were finally discovered in 2016, and "Liesha" Hamilton is now 59 years old and still "under State Department of Corrections supervision" at Murray Prison in Texas. (In case anybody was curious. 👍)
This is what you call a brave father I wish I had a dad like him Your son would be proud seeing his father being a champ for mankind Great story to say when you two catch up in the afterlife ⭐ Australia 💕 Christina
Yes it was found 4 apartments down in the backyard in May 2012. I am from Lubbock so I know this is true information. The Lubbock ME confirmed it was Scott Dunn’s body also.
"Sentenced to life"... for causing someone else's death? Then the killed's family is forced to pay tax... tax that house, clothe and feed the perpetrator? That's not fair.
You don't even need that. You need a DA, cop's who will go along with a story, and a jury that is gullible and doesn't look at the total case, only what the DA has sold them. DA's are the dirtiest lawyer's that you will ever come by. Their job had been to cover for dirty cop's and get convictions for the State with whatever evidence they could use, especially circumstantial evidence, and tainted crime scenes. Their job is to sell you "what they believe happened" & it's very well known & even said before every opening statement that it's not what happened, it's what they believe happened.
I watch many of these crime stories, and cannot understand why, in this particular case, the police didn't suspect her finance in the first place, since the main suspects are usually the victims partner? Regardless of the lack of DNA technology at that time, why wasn't he regarded as a suspect, and his background checked? Another thing, why didn't the investigating cops at that time, also ask his friends, colleagues, family, about him, his personality, etc? It seems to me that the first cops didn't do a thorough investigation. So well done to the second investigation team who did a thorough job and had the necessary DNA technology available after her murder, and actually caught him after so long. At last her loved ones had closure. Must say I suspected him immediately.
They did suspect him from the beginning but had cleared him due to his alibi. Then when the case was reopened the cop's immediately seen discrepancy between his stories between the police and other's and had the evidence to then bring him in and charge him.
@@pamelamorris3148 yep, sometimes it just takes fresh eyes, more thorough investigations, modern technology, and better trained detectives to finally uncover the truth and bring the guilty to justice.
Didn't the police interview Terri's parents? All those years later, they still remembered that the boyfriend had acted strangely. You'd think if the police had talked to the parents, that would have been mentioned.
Depends on when they got suspicious about his actions and comments. If the interview was done close to the incident they could be in denial, shock, not recognized the significance, etc. At the time something horrible happens people will sometimes rationalize strange behavior and not want to cause trouble for someone close to the family.
When Police have no body but someone is found guilty of a murder they should not have any chance of Parole or Release from prison until they lead Law Enforcement to the remains.
The Prosecutor and Judge should go for no probation until they tell them where the body is located for closure for the family. That should be a law everywhere. Only seems fair.
Some of these detectives couldn't be bothered or were just plain useless at their job. How many years after the murder did they finally interview the victim's friends?
20 years only for her. 10 years probation for him. Wow the justice system isn't blind after all. Some people get more time for robbery, etc. Why are some criminals treated lightly and others given max sentences and treated like thugs from birth?
The first case I had figured out when the finance went by the parents house on the way to work. If the parents had given the police the information about him acting strange and not going to identify the body. Because he didn't want to be late for work. That was a red flag. The second case could have been solved if the police actually did some policing could have lied to Alisha and told her that her new boyfriend told them everything about her killing him. You know actually interagated them. Neither one of these should have been cold cases. And Texas not investigating because there's no body so there's no crime is the stupidest thing I've heard.
1) Terri Brooks 1984 Alfred Scott Keefe murderer 2000 2) Roger Scott Dunn 1991 Leisha Hamilton and co-defendant Timothy James Smith 1997 guilty of murder
Wait the fiance is 22 years old she is 25 And the engagement was sudden and the parents were surprised bc they didn't know him very well We need to take a look at him
how the hell was the victim's fiancee not a suspect from the start?? when he told the parents he couldn't go to the hospital to identify the body because he didn't want to be late for work....WTF??!!!
I don't understand why a person could be so cruel as to murder their ex boyfriend. Murdering someone never ends until the body is found no matter how long it takes.
My dad and stepmother were murdered 2002. Seeing the progress these detectives put into the case was mind blowing 🤯. The detectives I will always be thankful for them. They took it as they lost a family member too
Same, Kathryn. Thank you for standing up for law enforcement, Libtards are doing all they can right now to throw all first responders under the bus, mainly because they would never have the courage themselves tor respond to dangerous situations. Sickening, but there you go, that is the world we currently live in.
I am sorry for your loss. I hope the perps were caught.
Soooo sorry for your loss
Kathryn Equils, I am so sorry for your great loss. Sometimes we tend to forget that the people in these videos are real people not Justa video. I hope you have found peace. I cannot even imagine what that would feel like to have a loved one murdered. My son lost his life and a very avoidable vehicle accident. The person driving the truck could have avoided the accident just by looking closer . As bad as this hurts still after 4 years I'm thankful it was not through murder. God bless bless you and peace be with you
Your loss is great. I am truly sorry. I hope you can find peace and God gives you reason for joy.
Scott Dunn's remains were found in 2012. He was buried a few doors down from where he lived, maintenance workers found his skeleton when they were digging for construction work. RIP Scott, after 21 years, you were finally brought home.
At least the poor man had a funeral and a peaceful resting place. Condolences to his family 🌹
So glad to know his body was found. Thanks for posting.
It’s a sad story but I’m glad he was found now is father can bury his son body Properly
You would have thought in exchange for the location of his burial, the sentences of the two killers would be reduced by a few years.
@@Landis_Grant they deserve every minute in jail that they received but yes, it would have been comforting for his family to properly lay him to rest sooner.
A seriously cool episode. Love that society. I am glad the father was inducted to be able to help other families.
This episode regarding the murdered son and his disappearance just broke my heart for his father. I cannot begin to understand his pain and loss. To have him accept the invitation from the Vidocq Society speaks to his love and dedication for others in similar circumstances.
I had a brother who died in an auto accident. My mother said that losing a child is like living with a broken tooth, you learn not to bite on it.
I knew he did it as soon as he rushed to the parents house… 14 years? Come on man!
Scott’s body was finally found in 2012! Maintenance men found his body buried apparently just near the apartment he was murdered. Glad the family was able to put him to rest. Leisha and Tim never admitted the location of the body. Pieces of trash they are! 🤬
The first case, the fiancée had a pitiful excuse: "don't wanna ID the body cuz I'll be late to work."
Why did parents not tell police of her fiancee's bizarre behaviour at the get go...that would be suspicious to most people wouldn't it?
@@raechelweir8861 yeah it is totally dodgy but I think they just wouldn’t want to think like that - plus they aren’t thinking clearly they just lost a child
@@industrialvectors Blame the autocorrect on that one.
It would never hurt anyone of my ex girlfriend but it wouldn’t feel like seeing her corpse and so I would appear guilty because I would like to remember her as a healthy woman and so I am just voice my thoughts about it and so sorry for your family loss and he will get what coming to him in hell
@@bsfishing7073 that would be understandable but it's the fact that he went to work that day that's the issue here.
“Alicia was scared Scott had left her for another woman”
“But Scott’s dad couldn’t believe he would just abandon his prized….cars”
😓🤣
Pp
Had to wait to @29:10 to get get the joke. Alicia thought that Scott loved her very much but was shocked that the guy loved his precious cars than she.
Vidocq are the Sherlock Holmes of today.
Scott Dunn's body was found in 2012, buried not far from his Lubbock apartment.
Thank you
How did they find him? So happy for his family. Closure.
@@candacecurtis5739 I think the apartment complex was doing landscaping
@@whopiddledonyourposttoasti175 oh gosh! How traumatic it would have been for the poor person to find him. Happy his family has him back though, thank you.
Deep down, the family knew immediately (the fiance didn't want to be late for work making pizzas?) but they only incidentally told investigators 15 years later. I'd be suspicious and mention to the police if the fiance didn't remain a friend of the family, didn't cry at the funeral, etc.
Right! Isn't that so strange. Did they even tell the police that line? Bizarre!
@@hamanamanama2263 Never completely believe police stories .. police LIE ALL THE TIME to cover their carelessness and errors .. TV programs rarely criticize the police because if they do police will stop talking to them!
That's what I was thinking, about the parents and that her friends never mentioned that they were surprised she even got engaged to him because he was jealous
The police investigation was odd, period. Don't they as a matter of course check out the romantic partner? Vet that person before moving on? It seemed obvious that she knew her killer, that she'd let the person in--with her shoes under the desk and her desk still untidied, indications that the killer arrived while she was still at work. Also, the plastic bag over her face--an indication of shame/guilt. Plus, yes, even without the boyfriend's (very) odd behavior, what about the simple fact that he often spent time with her at her workplace at night? Strange.
It occurs to me that the reason he didn't want to go to identify her was that the injuries she had inflicted on him would have been noticed.
It's shocking that he wasn't interviewed immediately-Routine police work should have cleared this up in no time.
20 years and 10 years probation isn't even enough for 1 persons sentence they're out right now probably
We do not will not have murders if if the penalty is higher. I believe in the death penalty But it should not take 10 to 20 years We should bring back the firing squad After conviction the very next week they should be killed.
@@jonathangoodwin646 there a few reasons why that wont happen.
1. The Death penalty is no deterrent. If it was to simply have the death penalty would reduce murder rates. The murder rate per 100 000 citizens hasnt changed in Australia since figures were kept in late 1890s. Constant figure with the death penalty, without the death penalty, and no change after semi auto firearms were banned. Look it up Australian Bureau Statistiscs dot gov dot AU. FYI the gun ban was 97. So you'd look at figures from 2000 to 2010. Or 2010 to 2020.
2. Prisons are total cash cows. Private companies have no interest in killing off their slave labour. And they are big political donors so what they say goes
Who got 10 years probation??
@@steelhurricane4041tim. Charged with murder but gets 10 years of probation
The acting in these reconstructions are quite extraordinarily naturalistic.
Aren't they?
? Naturalistic??
You're very....kind.
Isn’t it.
The dude playing the manager of a Texas car stereo place from the early 90’s- looks like how you’d picture a Texas car stereo shop manager from the early 90’s.
So well detailed. I think I will stick with the couch and my dog!
Hmm ? I heard about a couch and a dog once........ Take care lol
My younger sister was murdered, the detective gave up after a few weeks. Over a decade now and no closure.
Terri Brooks's actor fiance looked guilty from the moment I saw him! Why they didn't look at him more closely initially is puzzling, especially as the crime scene was so brutal.
He went to her parents, claiming he was concerned that her car wasn't parked in her driveway, had cleaned up the crime scene, before staging it, not a single fingerprint linked him to the crime, they didn't have the technology back then to do such an intricate, sophisticated DNA analysis, blood was found inside the wooden handle of the knife. skin under her nails, hair in her hardened fists.
the girlfriend in the 2nd story also cooperated with police, showing them the cut carpet behind the sofa, mentioning her other boyfriend-stalker-accomplice. Although if only Tim committed the crime Alicia's hair would also be in that carpet; given the fact that she lived in that bedroom and apartment. And possibly cheated on her fiancé with her neighbor or side boyfriend, there. Mr. Dunn may have successfully pulled off a Gone Girl m framing.
I’m surprised also that they didn’t send the hair samples off to the UK who were having success with DNA testing at that time (see the Peter Sutcliffe case from 1981)
I'm sure i would display ALL the reactions described in the event of someone lying during a polygraph test. I have anxiety. Hell, i react like that in a regular social situation or going through airport security 😆😬
Me too.
I am so glad to know I am not the only one!!!
This is why, thankfully, it isn't used as proof of guilt in court, as far as I know. People can be nervous even while perfectly innocent. I am definitely one of those people.
@@boshowa0840 me too and that's why i wouldn't take one. innocent people have failed them and guilty people have passed them. i was just reading about the case of anita cahill, who killed her young lover in 1992. shortly after the murder she took the test and passed. she got away with murder for 25 years until a woman who was a child at the time confessed that she heard anita talking to herself, apologizing for killing her lover all those years ago. if it hadn't been for that, she probably would have continued to get away with it. i think also that the green river killer took a polygraph and passed too.
That's why they ask a bunch of neutral questions to establish a baseline reading -- what's normal for you. If you're naturally nervous, that'll probably show up on every question, but that'll be expected if they've got the baseline right. It's more of an art than a science, but I think it's generally pretty reliable if performed by a qualified expert.
1984- Pennsylvania- The restaurant manager, Terry Brooks,25 years old, was found stabbed and brutally murdered and her boyfriend did not know who could have killed her but he did not want to go to the hospital to identify his girl friend Terry and it took 15 years to catch the killer.
The bag covering her face is indicative of killer knowing her.
Yeah the parents didn't feel the need to share that with the police until 15 years later. That was a red flag.
Well if they knew it was Terry he simply could have not wanted to see her brutalized and wanted to remember her the way she was.
@@pamelamorris3148 but his excuse was that it would make him late for work...he actually went to work after finding out his gf was brutally murdered. How he wasn't a suspect is beyond me.
The brain does weird things to protect the mind
I wish this to be in Africa. These detectives are blessed 🙏🏻
I know huh? Lots of innocents in the *African Jails* 🤔🤒🙄
@@djibsondasilva454 9o
@@Raoul432 What?
Imagine how many people have gotten away with murder and how many innocent people in prison...
@@rachealbanda2489 that's why I ain't even out here trying to imagine cause it will only hurt me deep down my heart.
The murderers got too little time.
Amazing details in each case. Thanks
So tragic
Prayers for the departed soul and his grieving parents
Thats disgusting Only 20 years. And 10 for helping get rid if scott .R.I.p young man.
Alicia got 20 years and her boyfriend Tim got just probation??? This was a miscarriage of justice since DNA proved the hair found was from both of them. These two losers should have gotten 35 to 40 years in prison without parole. Unbelievable disgraceful. My heart goes out to the parents of Scott who lost their son because of a crazy woman who couldn’t let go. May Scott Rest In Peace always. 🙏🙏🙏
Why even keep murderers alive. I don't want my tax dollars feeding them for the rest of their lives with free room and board.
Arrest them, try them, convict them, sentence them, execute them. Shouldn't take more than 60 days, total.
I missed why the investigators didn’t get the murderers to show and tell them what they did with the body of Scott
It's insane. It makes me wonder if it's because he made some kind of deal??
Exactly, wtf. Ten years probation for human life?! Even in Canada, Europe or Australia they would get life.
Scott Dunns body was found buried 4 Apartments down from his place in 2012. RIP
If you have to break up with an unstable person, try to do it in a public place.
Or don’t date them😀
I was ounce told having a child is like having your heart outside your body walking around. I can only imagine the pain of losing a child especially to a violent/unexpected death no matter the age their child is at death.
I can’t believe that anyone who has his blood taken and consent to a polygraph requested by the police could fail to realize he’s a suspect. I’m so glad her father lived to see her case solved and her murderer convicted. I’m assuming he was still alive at that point since the story didn’t say otherwise.
At the time, DNA testing was almost unknown to the public. The suspect, therefore, had no reason to worry
I've had my blood taken and consented to a polygraph exam.
In my case it was the fastest way to prove my innocence in a he say she say incident. Thankfully it was mistaken identity and I was cleared and freed.
The guy wasn't the brightest one, and a DNA test was a new forensic technique back then. A polygraph isn't admissible in court.
@@ginestrian In most cases a polygraph isn't admissible, but in some cases, it is!
Twenty three states still consider polygraph tests to be admissible in court. However, the majority of those states require the approval of both parties before they can be submitted.
Also, in most cases, the polygraph test is not being used in a criminal case, but rather in civil court, such as if there was an issue that prevented a person from getting a job or gaining security clearance.
He doesn't sound like the sharpest tool in the shed.
If you decide to take a life be prepared to pay the penalty. Good job. Well done.
These were not well done good jobs.
Wow, I’am impressed. These lab and DNA folks and the elite group are really professional. I’am really glad they are catching up to some of these rats.
Me too ‼️‼️
Sooo happy too wow😈
@@CristinaF210 , Oops😕.. Better hope you Cleaned up Well???
Their onto You😱😈..😂😂✌🇬🇧
Thank goodness 🙏 need to catch evil 😈 out there as many as possible praise for these dedicated 🙌 solving teams
I agree. I get so thrilled whenever these pathetic criminals are caught because of forensic evidence and DNA. I think all these pathetic murderers should all be sentenced to death when the evidence is irrefutable are guilty of murder and all appeals should be dismissed. Their executions to be immediately carried out within two years. No plea bargain deal accepted.
My God we do have monsters among us. I hope that father will one day be able to bury his son🙏
Anyone interested in the Vidocq society should read The Murder Room, brilliant read.
Thanks for this recommendation, much appreciated 🙂🐿.
Cool
It's fiction but Isaac Asimov has a series of short mysteries called "The Black Widowers" that are fun and interesting. It's a group that meets and discusses crimes or problems a guest needs solved.
@@christyrowe4497 have you read the book?
@@suzannewilliam-james9744 I've read the Isaac Asimov stories multiple times. I can't remember if I've read The Murder Room. It's now on my list to track down.
Scott's gf thought he left for another woman.... But they knew , "he'd never leave his beloved ....cars" 🤣🤣
Exactly 🤣
Cases like Alicia's they should be denied parole unless they tell them where the body/bodies are...they'd soon start talking
Sloppy policing Scott Keith should have been "In the Frame" from the get go, as he was "Known" to the victim and his BS stoppage at her house the morning after killing her.
Also the fact that her face was covered by her killer. Those two things made me realise straight away.
I don’t understand how so many cases go unsolved because the Police don’t follow basic tenants of investigation. You investigate those close to the victim and work your way out. If other suspects come along, investigate them too.
Took 15 years to get to the most obvious suspect for investigation? Umm
I'm sorry but how can u have a woman working late on her own with no kind of security after the disabled and the elderly and women are the most vulnerable.
Scott's dad Jim Dunn is to be commended for joining the Vidocq Society. Helping other parents face their tragedies. I learned Scott's remains were recovered in 2016. May he now rest in peace.
It was found in 2012
@@bsfishing7073 thanks.
The whole ‘we can’t get your dna unless it’s abandoned trash’ always strikes me as an absurd work around instead of just saying ‘we suspect you of a crime and your dna will either incriminate or exonerate you so give it to us’.
Then they just say "no," and there you are.
Constitutional rights as a citizen. You want an authoritative government?
They have to have enough evidence for a warrant to get dna just like anything else. And sometimes they do ask people to give it to exonerate themselves. But if all else fails just take the garbage.
Don't you think people have the right to refuse?
Right just ask him for it. When he says no he then gets on a plane and flies out of the country because now he knows you're on to him.
Poor investigation in the Terry Brookes case. Most victims knew their killer, the Police should have investigated friends and family just as a matter of routine.
You weren’t listening, so the faulty thinking lies with you. The narrator clearly stated why the police didn’t keep the fiancé on the list of suspects, starting with the fact that the crime scene clearly showed that robbery was the motive. The evidence strongly suggested that the robbers jumped Brooks outside, perhaps when taking out garbage, and then was brought inside where she was murdered. That’s why they gave the fiancé a pass; without knowing his personality, it never occurred to them that he might have doctored the evidence, bc nobody who was interviewed said anything really negative about him!! Not only that, there had also been other robberies of fast food restaurants in the city with similar crime scenes-barring murder-which again pointed to unknown assailants. Because the murder was presented as a burglary gone wrong, Brooks’ parents didn’t raise their suspicious about the fiancé, _whom they did not know at all well._ Because her former manager and friends heard it was a burglary gone wrong, they naturally didn’t share their concerns, and some weren’t interviewed. Not only that, but the police obviously didn’t have a “crime scene expert” on their payroll, and the expert from the Vidocq Society had worked with the FBI, not local law enforcement. Whatever the police “should have” done, you and I aren’t qualified to make that accusation, first of all bc we’re not crime experts and secondly bc we’ve only been presented with 20 minutes worth of information, a teeny portion....believe me, there was a whole lot of information we weren’t told bc it would turn an episode into a miniseries. Lastly, if the Vidocq Society didn’t blame the police, then nobody should, bc they were privy to everything, and they had expertise the local police department didn’t have.
Exactly
@@voraciousreader3341 Well I should be in the FBI then,.
Thank God for good people like this I believe God places people to do wonderful things to help others this is wonderful thank you for sharing this program sorry about Scott sad so sad my condolences to the family even though this may be an old video
Y put urself in a position of being investigated ..how u do even sleep at night...I'd rather be single
Shouldn’t the fiancé and her other relatives be considered prime suspects before rigorous examination to clear them? Why waited 14 years and profiling to start considering him a suspect?
Yes spouse regularly are suspecta
I pray the father can bury his son's body and to hopefully find strength to get through such a tragic event. God Bless!
If there was a God, he wouldn't have to. Think about it. Take all the time you need.
@@BrigitteGoodman Makes perfect sense!
his body was discovered 2012 buried 4 apartments down from his place of Murder. sadly
@@kittencatlover156 Thank you for the update.
@@BrigitteGoodman ,
Why take a chance in not believing in God and Jesus while still living your life as you would? They are worth believing especially since the life you live is the nearly the same with or with believing... It's after death you should be worried about. For you, if there is nothing after death then you didn't lose anything while being alive but if there is a place after death... well, you know hell is the place you'd be going.
7:16 whenever I hear "disgruntled employee," I think of Michael Scott saying, "Everyone here is extremely gruntled." 😂
I don’t know why they thought Terry had been accosted outside then taken back in… it didn’t make any sense to me why her shoes would be on the floor next to her desk, in that scenario.
🤔Good point🧐
Oh my gosh! Before i got to the end of the video, my thought was why didn't they ascertain how much blood had been spilt and whether a person could have survived with the amount of blood loss. Without a body, that would have been my very first evidence to look at. What's wrong with these initial crime scene investigators?? Sigh.
It's the stupid Texas law "if there's no body there's no crime ". Hopefully they have changed that.
Guilty of murder and the sentence is probation?! How can that even happen?
welcome to America
My thought is that no one cuts out carpet to hide any amount of blood, even if the supposedly perpetrator states there was an accident and the victim bleed. Not normal behavior. Thank you for sharing the video. Have a great day!
Exactly you'd either throw out the whole carpet or get professional equipment to clean it not just cut a section out that just screams suspicion.
Murderers are getting too little time in jail. Some of them deserve a death sentence
too suspicious the fiance wakes up her parents because her car isnt in the drive, like he was creating an alibi
Alrighty while it's not 100% of the time when this happens but if someone is repeatedly accusing you of being unfaithful, it's probably because _they_ are being unfaithful.
Alicia accused Scott of being unfaithful, and yet _she_ had a relationship with Tim outside of hers and Scott's. Funny that...
So true!
Agree 100 percent!
Two guys named; "Scott."
Scott Keefe and Scott Dunn.
One a murderer, one a victim. (Sadly.) But, fortunately, Scott Dunn's remains were finally discovered in 2016, and "Liesha" Hamilton is now 59 years old and still "under State Department of Corrections supervision" at Murray Prison in Texas.
(In case anybody was curious. 👍)
And a police analyst named Scott….
I heard she got parole in 2016 got remarried out and free on facebook new name Leisha Cockerham
How can a murderer get probation when the body has not been found? Shouldn’t both cool their heels till one tells where the victims body is?
Glad that the investigators did a complete investigation.
Always end a relationship in a public case and have a friend waiting in the wing.
This is what you call a brave father
I wish I had a dad like him
Your son would be proud seeing his father being a champ for mankind
Great story to say when you two catch up in the afterlife ⭐
Australia 💕 Christina
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@@rachelbelcher4032
No I don't Rachel 🧐
thiey seamlessly go into the next case quickly.
Tim Smith only got 10 yrs probation. so sad that Scotts body was never found, to give some sort of final ending for his parents.
Someone said in another comment that his body was found in 2012.
Yes it was found 4 apartments down in the backyard in May 2012. I am from Lubbock so I know this is true information. The Lubbock ME confirmed it was Scott Dunn’s body also.
"Sentenced to life"... for causing someone else's death? Then the killed's family is forced to pay tax... tax that house, clothe and feed the perpetrator? That's not fair.
why only 20 years...? and why only probation..?
As soon as they say, "fiancée" everyone on RUclips knows the killer. Cops: 15 years.
Yea, but my palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy when I'm about to spit bars. Don't mean I'm lying.
I like watching The New Detectives on True Crime Network every morning.
She became enraged unable to handle the rejection 😄 🤣 😂 😆
Scott's remains were finally found in 2012. The guy who just got probation (sic) helped Leisha Hamilton dispose of the body.
Proof is the key, they must have proof. Good forensics and scientifically proven facts, always seems to be a positive way for a conviction.
DNA.. Detectives New Arm
You don't even need that. You need a DA, cop's who will go along with a story, and a jury that is gullible and doesn't look at the total case, only what the DA has sold them. DA's are the dirtiest lawyer's that you will ever come by. Their job had been to cover for dirty cop's and get convictions for the State with whatever evidence they could use, especially circumstantial evidence, and tainted crime scenes. Their job is to sell you "what they believe happened" & it's very well known & even said before every opening statement that it's not what happened, it's what they believe happened.
@@pamelamorris3148 *cops *lawyers
I watch many of these crime stories, and cannot understand why, in this particular case, the police didn't suspect her finance in the first place, since the main suspects are usually the victims partner? Regardless of the lack of DNA technology at that time, why wasn't he regarded as a suspect, and his background checked? Another thing, why didn't the investigating cops at that time, also ask his friends, colleagues, family, about him, his personality, etc? It seems to me that the first cops didn't do a thorough investigation. So well done to the second investigation team who did a thorough job and had the necessary DNA technology available after her murder, and actually caught him after so long. At last her loved ones had closure. Must say I suspected him immediately.
The narrator has an excellent voice.
They did suspect him from the beginning but had cleared him due to his alibi. Then when the case was reopened the cop's immediately seen discrepancy between his stories between the police and other's and had the evidence to then bring him in and charge him.
@@pamelamorris3148 yep, sometimes it just takes fresh eyes, more thorough investigations, modern technology, and better trained detectives to finally uncover the truth and bring the guilty to justice.
Wind Cloud is a name u get when u have the most hippie parents.
❣️👍💐☮️
Why Alicia told the police the removed carpet and her relationship with the newborn?
She thought she was slick. Wanted to throw them off.
Also, my boyfriend's gone so l gotta rearrange the furniture? Who does that?
Door is not lock= call police dept first.
Real professionals. Solving these crimes.
Didn't the police interview Terri's parents? All those years later, they still remembered that the boyfriend had acted strangely. You'd think if the police had talked to the parents, that would have been mentioned.
Depends on when they got suspicious about his actions and comments. If the interview was done close to the incident they could be in denial, shock, not recognized the significance, etc. At the time something horrible happens people will sometimes rationalize strange behavior and not want to cause trouble for someone close to the family.
When Police have no body but someone is found guilty of a murder they should not have any chance of Parole or Release from prison until they lead Law Enforcement to the remains.
The Prosecutor and Judge should go for no probation until they tell them where the body is located for closure for the family. That should be a law everywhere. Only seems fair.
Update: Scott Dunns remains were found in 2012
Some of these detectives couldn't be bothered or were just plain useless at their job. How many years after the murder did they finally interview the victim's friends?
am I the only one who find that "veely" opening so annoying 😭
wats "veely my-friend ?
just 20 yrs and 10 for murdering thats not enough
20 years only for her. 10 years probation for him. Wow the justice system isn't blind after all. Some people get more time for robbery, etc. Why are some criminals treated lightly and others given max sentences and treated like thugs from birth?
Good show ... we have similar stuff here in Australia but this show is exceptional
WHy coouldnt they get them to tell them where Scott's body?
Ffs. What terrible original police work. Totally inept and negligent.
I knew from laying eyes on Jim Dunn the first moment, that he is a wonderful human being. Elated to hear that he was asked to join Vedocq!
The first case I had figured out when the finance went by the parents house on the way to work. If the parents had given the police the information about him acting strange and not going to identify the body. Because he didn't want to be late for work. That was a red flag.
The second case could have been solved if the police actually did some policing could have lied to Alisha and told her that her new boyfriend told them everything about her killing him. You know actually interagated them. Neither one of these should have been cold cases.
And Texas not investigating because there's no body so there's no crime is the stupidest thing I've heard.
So if Alicia hadn't shown the police the carpet under the sofa, would she have gotten away with murder?
Yeah. I think she could have gotten away with murder. Why did she show the police? Maybe she wasn't as smart as she thought she was.
Indeed Christine
God Bless the Vedoq society.
1) Terri Brooks 1984
Alfred Scott Keefe murderer 2000
2) Roger Scott Dunn 1991
Leisha Hamilton and co-defendant Timothy James Smith 1997 guilty of murder
How'd you like to be Scott Dunn's girlfriend..."Leave his girlfriend? Sure! But his tools and his car collection...NO WAY!!"
Wait the fiance is 22 years old she is 25
And the engagement was sudden and the parents were surprised bc they didn't know him very well
We need to take a look at him
The blood reconstructionist is amazing!
how the hell was the victim's fiancee not a suspect from the start?? when he told the parents he couldn't go to the hospital to identify the body because he didn't want to be late for work....WTF??!!!
Wow! God bless these guys. They did a sterling job.
It was so obvious it was her boyfriend from his waking her parents up. Daahhh! The FBI needs me.
I don't understand why a person could be so cruel as to murder their ex boyfriend. Murdering someone never ends until the body is found no matter how long it takes.
I’m so depressed watching these shows cheers me up because at least I’m not murdered.
It is odd that this level of investigation was not completed initially.
so she used the same sicors to open her evidence envelope as well as taking the sample from the cigaret bud!? hope not!!...
Hardly no time for murder.
Saguaro cactus doesn't grow in Albuquerque. Only grows in the Sonoran desert 🏜 😏.
You sure mean Sonora/Arizona desert
@@rocioaguilera3555 the sonoran desert expands beyond Arizona; albeit slightly.