Exactly why i love this freaking fight, its almost poetic how accuratly describes the human race, we're the scums of earth thats why netero made sure to say im gonna wait for you in hell if there is one the way they portraited humans as the malice here, the chimera ants never had a chance from the begining
@@evanmedi6144 also the word for evolution and malice are the same in Japanese. In Mange there is a better translation for the line of Netero: "you understand nothing of the human potential for evolution". In the Manga it is: "you understand nothing of the bottemless malice within the human heart". Even with all their cruelty, the ants would never have the malice to develop a technology, capable of extinct their whole race.
Meruem felt fear, it is not because he never expected someone to blow up the Gungi board. It is because he thought he was the one manipulating the game but no. Netero was the one manipulating the situation from outside of the game. When Netero told the name, the game was already over because telling his name means Netero's defeat. I'm lost. Gungi board is already past tense in this moment. Netero said "I'm not alone" The fight was between us, You and Me. BUT what going to happen now is the fight between human and ants. Do you know what Netero really wanted to say ? I am lost and telling you your name but it doesn't mean human's lost. Here is a gift. THIS IS FROM HUMAN. If it is possible human kill Meruem which means human can kill other ants. But Killing Netero doesn't mean Ant's victory. So I don't think this line should have been on the show because this line didn't get the right point. It was actually more than the Gungi board. That is why Meruem felt fear. And you know, there was a human who flipped the board on previously episode. So Meruem can expect that.
Netero's last words actual have a double meaning if you read it in Japanese: The line is often translated as: "Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for evolution!". But it is also translated as: "Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice!". Humans are cruel, and capable of such monstrous acts that the Ants couldn't hope to match.
Exactly. Humans are capable of great kindness, but can also be extremely terrible. The ants can evolve quickly, but humans have evolved and learned slowly. We have perfected our cruelty. We have earned it.
The ants are mostly humans too. They were just simply eating to survive before they got human genes, but after the human genes they started to kill for fun.
@@spbspb2413 And also, Mereum says that humanity, with all their individuality, can never hope to match the Ants and that he is the culmination of all evolution. I thought that point was a moot one. He himself is already so uniquely individual. Every single one of the ants is individual; they all have their dreams, hopes, and fears. They lost their eusociality the moment Queen tasted human meat.
@@sharathsh9987 i think meruem was mostly reffering to himself as the pinnacle. He basically told netero that his entire species evolved and worked with one singular goal in mind, his birth, and that humans are too much of individuals to make thar sacrifice. Neteros retort to that was that humans evolved and worked as well with malice as their fuel and the bomb was the result of that evolution.
Meruem won the Nen battle against Netero, but was no match against the centuries of progress made by the human race (depicted as the bomb). While the one-on-one fight was won by Meruem, the chimera species were no match for the human species. Mickey was totally right on this point!
Yeah that's the whole point.. Meruem was saying how the way they reproduce made him such a stronger individual but Netero said to not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice technology made by not one stronger but all working together to evolve
They were a total match for the human species. Dont forget that the ants are only a few weeks old while the human race is thousands of years old. Just give the ants a few more months and the humans would have been gone.
@@ladermay7726 No, the extinction / defeat of the Ant was a forgone conclusion. If they had expanded to being a potential threat greater than what they were, humanity would have glassed the entire island and everyone on it, with no hesitation nor regret. The choice to send in the Hunters was a political one of a measured application of force., if more force was required, more would have been used until the the ant were defeated or the world destroyed.
@@pedrohenriquedasilvaroque1085 MANGA SPOILER I think Don Freecs is going to be superbly strong, and maybe even stronger than meruem, because he survived on the dark continent for 300 years
Coz it definitely is not. Hear me first, please 1- bungee gum has properties of both robber and gum 2- oh my rubber nen🖤❤️ 3- gohn... goooooohhohohohn As you see, it is not in top 3 quotes ( this is an official list so..)
One of the best episodes of Hunter X Hunter for sure. Netero's resolve is crazy, he didn't think twice about giving his life for the future of mankind. My man's was looking mad evil at the end haha
I didn't see it that way Netero achieved his life goal by fighting Meruem the strongest creature in the world and he lost to him so he had nothing more to live for he just dragged Meruem along with , but not out of selflessness he did it because why not
@@micow9951 This is not accurate. Netero's final act is a manifestation of humanity's survival instinct, showing that humans will go to hell to allow humanity to survive. Netero is not acting selfishly, not in the way you suggest anyway. Netero actually is being selfish in that he sees killing Meruem and the ants as maintaining Human supremacy, which he is proud of and fundamentally sees himself as being a part of. He is asserting Human dominance over the ants and ensuring Human survival.
God level writing Okay I'll elaborate: - Netero's remaining limbs were the ones he did not use when playing ball with Killua and Gon in the HE arc; - When Netero previously said: "I'm not sure I can complete this mission without sacrifices", he probably was talking about himself; - Meruem fought "valiantly", Netero resorted to a "trick"; - Yes, technology defeated Meruem. That always takes me back to the good old Dragon Ball days, when the army attacked Cell before the Cell Game but were wiped out. In HxH, a Nen attack is not necessarily stronger than a bazooka (Uvogin said that the super-bazooka he tanked "stung", and he was a master Enhancer); - The kanji for "evolution" also translates to "malice" (EDIT: actually, it doesn't. As pointed out in the replies, there is a habit of pointing out different ways of reading a phrase. This phrase was "humans' bottomless malice", with "evolution" as the alternate meaning). Chimera Ants will never evolve as much as humans (thanks to our individuality), and they'll never be as evil as us. The nuke is literally the most evil thing ever created by mankind. Netero does tell he and Meruem are going to Hell, so he knows to be an evil man; - Netero is down for a good fight, that's why he kept the bomb as a last resort; - Mickey freakin' called the nuke like 50 episodes ago lol.
Humans resorted to the bomb and had Netero as the representative due to reasons (manga spoilers). If the ants and Meruem were not a human threat, Netero, as an individual, would probably be fine losing this battle of fighting and ideals. (He might get swayed, he says before)
Kanji for evolution do not translate to malice. They're not even read that way, but we have a way of adding meaning to a phrase by specifically pointing out a different way to read it. To emphasize the meaning behind it. Basically, Togashi made sure readers will understand that Netero meant both malice and evolution when he used the word evolution.
@@user-un-known thanks for the clarification. About the topic of Netero's phrase that's what you always hear/read, that it translates the same. I'll make sure not to make that mistake again :) Edit: grammar
Netero fighting with a right arm and left leg in the end. Its also a callback to how he was playing the ball game in the first arc with Killua and Gon (using the same arm and leg!)
For Mickey's comment about Guanyin Bodhisattva doing nothing hear me out. Netero indeed accepted his defeat and this point was raised by Meruem himself. "I AM A KING WHO HAD A WHOLE SPECIES RAISING ME WHILE YOU ARE JUST A SINGLE HUMAN" Meaning Netero trained for decades to display his strength BUT the ants had been evolving for god knows how long with greater dedication towards the queen who in turn solely wanted to give birth to the best king ever. Now ANTS HAD THE UPPER HAND WHEN IT CAME TO NETERO BUT NOT HUMANITY. Humanity had been developing for centuries hence Meruem being defeated by technology.
I love how Suraj is the only one recognizing the Vice Chairman the whole time, like literally way back in ep 98-99ish or something that the Vice-Chairman was first aforementioned, Vice Chairman is always in Suraj's mind or in every reaction. I think they're now on 'that' arc and I bet Suraj is loving that Vice Chairman.
So Mereum won the nen battle but lost to human technological development which has been developed over hundreds of thousands of years. I like how Mereum views human individuality as a weakness and the eusociality of the ants as a strength, but Netero shows that human individuality is also a strength bc that individuality caused constant competition amongst ourselves leading to us developing terrible weapons such as the nuclear bomb, so while Netero shows it as a strength it is also a weakness in the sense that it has caused untold suffering and destruction, on such a scale that the Chimera Ants haven’t even begun to approach yet. Humans will always indiscriminately destroy things they view as potential threats and the Chimera Ants were one such threat.
Netero is the most interesting character in this entire series. He is a man who lives for battle. He has much less care for human life than normal people, and can be very sadistic at times. Violence is his life’s purpose. Yet at the same time, he can be very kind, joking, and fun. And grim, and all different kinds of emotions. That is why he is the perfect representation of humanity. He was selected to represent humanity in their possible last moments. The line, “You understand nothing of humanity’s endless potential for malice.” Comes as the final words spoken in a battle that didn’t need to happen. Just like many times in history before, the battle was not necessary. They could’ve solved it through words, just as Meruem suggested. But they fought anyway. And the final act in that amazing, incredible battle, was the worst invention in human history. Nukes. The man who represented humanity had to resort to nuclear bombs to win. He sacrificed himself, “for the colony.” Because that’s the thing. The whole fight, Meruem was the more human character. Its especially shown in the nuke, because that is a very clear parallel to the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki during ww2. The unnecessary loss of life in both. Jeez man, hunter x hunter is incredible.
In response to mickey's comment about the bodhisatva doing nothing to the king in general (don't know how to write it xd), that's exactly why he ended up telling meruem his name, he admitted defeat as a fighter by not being able to beat him with his own power, so he tells him his name and use the nuke after. I didn't read to much into it the first time I watch it that's why I mention it here, but it is just genius how the person who has train to perfection and values strenght the most must put his pride aside and use some cheap ass nuke, it's kinda sad actually.
The pinnacle of human perfection and training and gratitude came up short but humanity's darkness won the fight. This is why humans will always win... Because of the bottomless malice within the human heart but Netero takes that and uses it to save humanity. The dicotamy and direction of togashi is absolute pinnacle of genius
In other animes , if a character laughs even when he's completely immobile that either meant that he had a hidden power or that he knows someone strong who will avenge his death, but in this anime let's be honest , no one expected a Nuke😳😳😳😳😳.....Man I loveee this Anime😭😭 , Togashi get well soon ma guy😭
Y'all overlooked Netero stating that humans had infinite potential. The Ant King was the Pinnacle for ant evolution, but Netero was not. Humans could evolve way past the Ant King in power.
The ant king was never a threat. It was just simply a matter of using as little resources and casualties as possible to wiping them. Even if he lived he would have been nuked to hell.
Regarding Netero's attack being the strongest move a human can muster is debatable. remember guys, you're forgetting that Nen is limitless, and Netero is a prime example of a human being who reached his peak regarding Nen under traditional circumstances. However, what if the individual Nen evolution isn't traditional, you're forgetting that there Nen can follow a condition system which immediately changes the rules of the game. The deadlier the condition that the individual sets, the stronger the Nen ability becomes. Kurapika and Chororo are prime examples. Nen in its traditional form follows the force with its rules while with conditions it follows the dark side of the force which can also be way stronger than the traditional ways.
20:40 I don't think it's messed up at all that you rooted for Meruem, because so far, it seems like he's the hero of this arc who is undergoing some major character development.
Who's to say how he would grow? How his views of humans would change? ("Won't be using humans to propagate our species anymore" Sure you wouldn't Mereum, that's not total b.s. at all) I knew how dangerous he could be(and thus, why humanity would be so absolutely opposed to letting him, and the other ants, live), but damn, if I wasn't rooting for him by the end of this arc!
killua didnt have nen, and nen users usually have this layer of protection at all times, even in its weakest form its probably miles ahead of basic human strenght
The pleasant sounds of the score in the background whenever horror occurs in each episode is so crazy! Whenever a human child is eaten by a Chimera Ant or something like this Poor Man's Rose explosion happens, euphoric music plays. It's such a mind fking.
@@jellalfernandes1309 Yeah I love dbz and I love dbz fights But sometimes I wish they would put just a little strategy into their fights It would make the fights so much better
What's also interesting is that Netero probably had that bomb implanted for just anybody who was capable of defeating him in battle and not just the King. Netero was so prideful and arrogant that he couldn't let someone stronger than him live while he perished and it was meant to take out anyone strong enough to take down the strongest man in the world as they'd be too dangerous to be left alive.
I remember when I first saw this episode, it instantly jettisoned Hunter x Hunter to my favorite anime of all time. From here on out it’s all heartstrings being tugged on. From this episode on is some of the best anime you’ll ever watch, so enjoy it all 🙂
This fight came down to a difference in view on what "evolution" is. Meruem referred to a biological/physical evolution, whereas Netero referred to a technological evolution. The difference between the ants and the humans is that the humans have always dealt with being weak physically, and have invented ways around their fragile exterior, whereas the ants were always biologically superior to species around them, so they never had the need to develop anything resembling weapons, let alone a bomb.
imagine netero getting a heart attack in the middle of the palace before leaving - nuking both the ants, hunters and the hundreds of thousands of people gathered outside...
From what was shown, I think the other governments would be fine with that, so long as it took out the ants. They probably would have resorted to that if the hunters had failed anyway.
they took the King to a weapons testing site for a reason ^^ ... and Neteros speach still gives me the shivers ... it's even better with the japanese word that means evolution/malice ^^ HUMANITY FIRST!! ^^
Your guys's Channel went down right before this episode came out. Haven't had a case of blue balls this bad in years. I've been waiting for this for almost a month now!
Love the small details , how the narrator explains the rose shape of the bomb and everything. The ants were mere babies compared to a pantheon of human warfare and evolution spanning millennia.
Ant King said the pinnacle of all evolution is him. Netero said you don't know about evelution of humans so he showed him what we accoplished. The Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTT??? Natero Lost his arm? That never happened before - Hunter Exam (One of the Examinee) - Hisoka Heavens Arena - Gon Greed Island Arc
At the end of this arc it's tough to say there's actual villains. Everything's gray, each character has their own perspective and if anything Netero might be the closest thing to a villain
I guess. But I mean the ants were literally eating humans. Netero basically just said I’m willing to prevent that by any means necessary. If the king and the guard had been like colt or Ikalgo and said he we just want exist peacefully and not eat humans im sure they would’ve agreed. But that wasn’t on the table.
I once heard someone draw parallels between the time during the Hunter Exams when Killua and Gon faced Netero during their competition to catch the ball. And how back then, Netero decided to handicap himself by not using his right arm and left leg....and how insanely enough during this match, the tables were turned and Netero instead lost his right leg and left arm
U guys.. this anime is just something else yo, i don't even know what to say there is no anime thet's like it it's simply different from others. It's just .. damn it 🤦🏽♂️
The big point was Netero thinking was right from the beginning of this fight was his knowledge of the bomb and Human race. Meruem meant what he said, and he may have wreck havoc in order to create his equality dream world. But Netero knew. He knew that strenght, training, potential, all of that is inferior to the infinite potential of the Human Race and its potential to evolve, to destroy. Meruem would never have conquered mankind, because mankind would have nuked the entire know world before letting that happen. And Netero knew it. He had to stop Meruem, because that was the only way to protect Humanity, not from the ant, but from itself.
what i understand with "trap the enemy with indiscriminate love" is because the enemy instints wont react because dont feel that you will do anything to them you are showing them love and that leave you open of the big shot i really love how they write this and the logic behind it
I think it’s funny how we’re supposed to be impressed by the King’s strategy and way of thinking, when his strategy is similar to Gon’s against Genthru (Keep attacking), and he has never won a Gungi match, lol.
Gon wasn't trying to identify Genthru's bias. Not every aggressive strategies are the same. Gon vs Genthru was finalized by how Gon used his environment.
Daemon Spade Isn’t Genthru’s use of Gyo to protect himself from the use of Little Flower, a bias? A rhythm, a pattern that Gon was searching to exploit in the first half of the fight? Anyway, I don’t want to say beyond that there’s a 1:1 between the two fights. I think there’s more cunning on display in that battle, while Netero vs Mereum is pure physical spectacle.
I love that in a series full of magical creatures and supernatural abilities the most terrifying thing still in that world is the weapons created by man to wipe each other out.
netero's Ultimate attack makes him the most hardcore military vet. and he still wasn't even at the top of humanity. he said it had bee 30 years. since he was in the top ranks of nen users. but also shows that Hiroshima still had a huge impact o Japan to this day.
man one thing i thought about was..why tf didn't netero have a healing hand? like he had plenty of nen and time to make that but apparently just decided not to..? also he was an enhancer it is literally his class so it shouldn't be hard. The leg was freshly chopped off so he could for sure just re-attach it..instead he get's the power to fuckin close his limbs shut like..??? wut??? but anyways this fight was still pretty fucking awesome, changed my life. luv ur guys reaction
I'm so glad that you mentioned how Komugi's games with the King affected his ability in this fight because without them Meruem is strong, but would've lost to this batttle of willpower and wits against Netero. And yeah... apart from that I'm speechless too, humanity's malice won this fight, not its strength.
I feel like people like going to every HxH's reaction videos to copy/paste all the analysis that have been made on the Manga No matter what channel it is, you'll always see the same comments under the video lol sry if my english is bad
So i was a bit confused because in the official manga translation netero says "never underestemate humanities potential for malice" where as here it was evolution. Turns out Togashi wrote both. Rather apt considering the line is proceded by an atom bomb.
Killua didn't run away from Netero _this_ chapter. If you go all the way back to episode 99 there is an odd scene when Killua is scouting the region, alerting people to not partake the census "Diego" has called for. While he is running in the woods, Killua suddenly sees a bright light, basically goes "NOPE" and turns to run in another direction. The scene pans to show Netero, sitting on the top of a mountain. That was never explained back then. Now we know that Netero was on that mountain, basically training his Zero Hand, visualizing the attack and building up his aura for it, basically what Bisky had Gon and Killua do when they would practice their Ren while they prepared for the fight against Knuckle and Shoot. From _dozens of kilometres away_ Killua could feel that, whatever was putting out that aura, was _monstrous_ and his instincts just told him to back the fuck off.
Netero had a simple point. No matter how much these creatures evolved biologically, they could never hope to match humanity's bottomless malice and technologically progression. There's plenty of cruelty that humans are capable of. The ants, while more powerful, were not inherently cruel. The species focused on hive mind and a simplistic mindset, combined with monstrous power. Humans are something else altogether, proven by everything wrong in the world today, with so many people still wilfully indulging in selfishness, greed and ignorance.
The thing Merurem didn't understand about humans and games.
If we get mad enough we'll just flip the board so no one wins.
Exactly why i love this freaking fight, its almost poetic how accuratly describes the human race, we're the scums of earth thats why netero made sure to say im gonna wait for you in hell if there is one
the way they portraited humans as the malice here, the chimera ants never had a chance from the begining
This describes it perfect,wow
@@evanmedi6144 also the word for evolution and malice are the same in Japanese. In Mange there is a better translation for the line of Netero: "you understand nothing of the human potential for evolution". In the Manga it is: "you understand nothing of the bottemless malice within the human heart".
Even with all their cruelty, the ants would never have the malice to develop a technology, capable of extinct their whole race.
@@evanmedi6144 "we're the scums of earth"
Speak for yourself, rodent
@@tylerlackey1175 stop your just proving his point
"Meruem never expected someone to blow-up the Gungi Board." That line is genius, it should have been on the show!
Shutthefuckup
@@xnortheast1106 ?
My name is Meruemu sama, you killed my gungy board, prepare to die
just like when dragon dive brokes apart the gungi board and Komugi while he plays in the castle
Meruem felt fear, it is not because he never expected someone to blow up the Gungi board.
It is because he thought he was the one manipulating the game but no.
Netero was the one manipulating the situation from outside of the game.
When Netero told the name, the game was already over because telling his name means Netero's defeat. I'm lost.
Gungi board is already past tense in this moment.
Netero said "I'm not alone"
The fight was between us, You and Me.
BUT what going to happen now is the fight between human and ants.
Do you know what Netero really wanted to say ?
I am lost and telling you your name but it doesn't mean human's lost.
Here is a gift. THIS IS FROM HUMAN.
If it is possible human kill Meruem which means human can kill other ants.
But Killing Netero doesn't mean Ant's victory.
So I don't think this line should have been on the show because this line didn't get the right point.
It was actually more than the Gungi board.
That is why Meruem felt fear.
And you know, there was a human who flipped the board on previously episode.
So Meruem can expect that.
Netero's last words actual have a double meaning if you read it in Japanese:
The line is often translated as:
"Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for evolution!".
But it is also translated as:
"Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice!".
Humans are cruel, and capable of such monstrous acts that the Ants couldn't hope to match.
Exactly. Humans are capable of great kindness, but can also be extremely terrible. The ants can evolve quickly, but humans have evolved and learned slowly. We have perfected our cruelty. We have earned it.
The ants are mostly humans too. They were just simply eating to survive before they got human genes, but after the human genes they started to kill for fun.
@@spbspb2413 And also, Mereum says that humanity, with all their individuality, can never hope to match the Ants and that he is the culmination of all evolution. I thought that point was a moot one.
He himself is already so uniquely individual. Every single one of the ants is individual; they all have their dreams, hopes, and fears. They lost their eusociality the moment Queen tasted human meat.
@@sharathsh9987 i think meruem was mostly reffering to himself as the pinnacle. He basically told netero that his entire species evolved and worked with one singular goal in mind, his birth, and that humans are too much of individuals to make thar sacrifice. Neteros retort to that was that humans evolved and worked as well with malice as their fuel and the bomb was the result of that evolution.
@@sharathsh9987 That was honestly the point. It's just like humans calling a certain race or religion out and not acting better than them.
Meruem won the Nen battle against Netero, but was no match against the centuries of progress made by the human race (depicted as the bomb). While the one-on-one fight was won by Meruem, the chimera species were no match for the human species. Mickey was totally right on this point!
Yeah that's the whole point.. Meruem was saying how the way they reproduce made him such a stronger individual but Netero said to not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice technology made by not one stronger but all working together to evolve
They were a total match for the human species. Dont forget that the ants are only a few weeks old while the human race is thousands of years old. Just give the ants a few more months and the humans would have been gone.
@Aleksa Kurtovic Which are? Because I follow the manga, and so far the real strength of several characters, like Gin, is just fans' speculation.
@@ladermay7726 No, the extinction / defeat of the Ant was a forgone conclusion. If they had expanded to being a potential threat greater than what they were, humanity would have glassed the entire island and everyone on it, with no hesitation nor regret. The choice to send in the Hunters was a political one of a measured application of force., if more force was required, more would have been used until the the ant were defeated or the world destroyed.
@@pedrohenriquedasilvaroque1085
MANGA SPOILER
I think Don Freecs is going to be superbly strong, and maybe even stronger than meruem, because he survived on the dark continent for 300 years
No one's talking about the "A prayer comes from the heart/emotions can be manifested" monologue which is top3 quotes of the whole anime.
Coz it definitely is not. Hear me first, please
1- bungee gum has properties of both robber and gum
2- oh my rubber nen🖤❤️
3- gohn... goooooohhohohohn
As you see, it is not in top 3 quotes ( this is an official list so..)
@@lornemalvo1661 Can't argue with that
Gets me hyped every time, man. Such a cool line.
Hxh 2011 has the best writing in shonen anime, by far. This is some world class authors tier writing.
20:20 they talked about it here
One of the best episodes of Hunter X Hunter for sure. Netero's resolve is crazy, he didn't think twice about giving his life for the future of mankind. My man's was looking mad evil at the end haha
Bro he 120+ years old ^^
I didn't see it that way Netero achieved his life goal by fighting Meruem the strongest creature in the world and he lost to him so he had nothing more to live for he just dragged Meruem along with , but not out of selflessness he did it because why not
@@micow9951 Then why did he think in his own mind about keeping Meruem from trying to farm humans?
@@micow9951 This is not accurate. Netero's final act is a manifestation of humanity's survival instinct, showing that humans will go to hell to allow humanity to survive. Netero is not acting selfishly, not in the way you suggest anyway. Netero actually is being selfish in that he sees killing Meruem and the ants as maintaining Human supremacy, which he is proud of and fundamentally sees himself as being a part of. He is asserting Human dominance over the ants and ensuring Human survival.
@@micow9951 why don't you just accept that you never understood Netero's character
God level writing
Okay I'll elaborate:
- Netero's remaining limbs were the ones he did not use when playing ball with Killua and Gon in the HE arc;
- When Netero previously said: "I'm not sure I can complete this mission without sacrifices", he probably was talking about himself;
- Meruem fought "valiantly", Netero resorted to a "trick";
- Yes, technology defeated Meruem. That always takes me back to the good old Dragon Ball days, when the army attacked Cell before the Cell Game but were wiped out. In HxH, a Nen attack is not necessarily stronger than a bazooka (Uvogin said that the super-bazooka he tanked "stung", and he was a master Enhancer);
- The kanji for "evolution" also translates to "malice" (EDIT: actually, it doesn't. As pointed out in the replies, there is a habit of pointing out different ways of reading a phrase. This phrase was "humans' bottomless malice", with "evolution" as the alternate meaning). Chimera Ants will never evolve as much as humans (thanks to our individuality), and they'll never be as evil as us. The nuke is literally the most evil thing ever created by mankind. Netero does tell he and Meruem are going to Hell, so he knows to be an evil man;
- Netero is down for a good fight, that's why he kept the bomb as a last resort;
- Mickey freakin' called the nuke like 50 episodes ago lol.
Who is Mickey?)
Humans resorted to the bomb and had Netero as the representative due to reasons (manga spoilers).
If the ants and Meruem were not a human threat, Netero, as an individual, would probably be fine losing this battle of fighting and ideals. (He might get swayed, he says before)
Kanji for evolution do not translate to malice.
They're not even read that way, but we have a way of adding meaning to a phrase by specifically pointing out a different way to read it. To emphasize the meaning behind it.
Basically, Togashi made sure readers will understand that Netero meant both malice and evolution when he used the word evolution.
Almas Maratov 3rd from the left
@@user-un-known thanks for the clarification. About the topic of Netero's phrase that's what you always hear/read, that it translates the same. I'll make sure not to make that mistake again :)
Edit: grammar
Netero fighting with a right arm and left leg in the end. Its also a callback to how he was playing the ball game in the first arc with Killua and Gon (using the same arm and leg!)
You and 20 other people have said this
For Mickey's comment about Guanyin Bodhisattva doing nothing hear me out.
Netero indeed accepted his defeat and this point was raised by Meruem himself. "I AM A KING WHO HAD A WHOLE SPECIES RAISING ME WHILE YOU ARE JUST A SINGLE HUMAN"
Meaning Netero trained for decades to display his strength BUT the ants had been evolving for god knows how long with greater dedication towards the queen who in turn solely wanted to give birth to the best king ever.
Now ANTS HAD THE UPPER HAND WHEN IT CAME TO NETERO BUT NOT HUMANITY. Humanity had been developing for centuries hence Meruem being defeated by technology.
I love how Suraj is the only one recognizing the Vice Chairman the whole time, like literally way back in ep 98-99ish or something that the Vice-Chairman was first aforementioned, Vice Chairman is always in Suraj's mind or in every reaction. I think they're now on 'that' arc and I bet Suraj is loving that Vice Chairman.
Nahh he will hate him I think ^^
Thank you Chelsea for the double drop! Really appreciate all the work you must put into these franken-reactions!
Can you show me the other ep reaction?
Arun Jeeva It was two months ago for premium patrons
Ellinor 😐
So Mereum won the nen battle but lost to human technological development which has been developed over hundreds of thousands of years. I like how Mereum views human individuality as a weakness and the eusociality of the ants as a strength, but Netero shows that human individuality is also a strength bc that individuality caused constant competition amongst ourselves leading to us developing terrible weapons such as the nuclear bomb, so while Netero shows it as a strength it is also a weakness in the sense that it has caused untold suffering and destruction, on such a scale that the Chimera Ants haven’t even begun to approach yet. Humans will always indiscriminately destroy things they view as potential threats and the Chimera Ants were one such threat.
"Cool genetic upgrades you got, have nuke."
Jajajajajaja
Netero is the most interesting character in this entire series. He is a man who lives for battle. He has much less care for human life than normal people, and can be very sadistic at times. Violence is his life’s purpose. Yet at the same time, he can be very kind, joking, and fun. And grim, and all different kinds of emotions. That is why he is the perfect representation of humanity. He was selected to represent humanity in their possible last moments. The line, “You understand nothing of humanity’s endless potential for malice.” Comes as the final words spoken in a battle that didn’t need to happen. Just like many times in history before, the battle was not necessary. They could’ve solved it through words, just as Meruem suggested. But they fought anyway. And the final act in that amazing, incredible battle, was the worst invention in human history. Nukes. The man who represented humanity had to resort to nuclear bombs to win. He sacrificed himself, “for the colony.” Because that’s the thing. The whole fight, Meruem was the more human character. Its especially shown in the nuke, because that is a very clear parallel to the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki during ww2. The unnecessary loss of life in both. Jeez man, hunter x hunter is incredible.
In response to mickey's comment about the bodhisatva doing nothing to the king in general (don't know how to write it xd), that's exactly why he ended up telling meruem his name, he admitted defeat as a fighter by not being able to beat him with his own power, so he tells him his name and use the nuke after. I didn't read to much into it the first time I watch it that's why I mention it here, but it is just genius how the person who has train to perfection and values strenght the most must put his pride aside and use some cheap ass nuke, it's kinda sad actually.
I think that's why his final line is so terrifying.
I think the damage he took from the bodisatva really counted towards him dying from the rose. Else may be he would ve survived the rose
@@truepotential206 he wouldnt have survived. remember the rose has very dangerous poison in it. it wouldnt matter if he took 0 damage
The pinnacle of human perfection and training and gratitude came up short but humanity's darkness won the fight. This is why humans will always win... Because of the bottomless malice within the human heart but Netero takes that and uses it to save humanity. The dicotamy and direction of togashi is absolute pinnacle of genius
Thanks for the double drop, Micky's face was just stuck it was amazing finally y'all know what's good
Never underestimate humanity's infinite potential to evolve....you normies...
Malice sounds better.
@@johanliebert4622 maybe but the meaning of the line changes completely.
LoL
In other animes , if a character laughs even when he's completely immobile that either meant that he had a hidden power or that he knows someone strong who will avenge his death, but in this anime let's be honest , no one expected a Nuke😳😳😳😳😳.....Man I loveee this Anime😭😭 , Togashi get well soon ma guy😭
Micky said multiple time that they should just nuke the island in the past
Y'all overlooked Netero stating that humans had infinite potential.
The Ant King was the Pinnacle for ant evolution, but Netero was not.
Humans could evolve way past the Ant King in power.
They already did, that's the point of the 'small and cheap, mass produced bomb'
They already did by the time...
The ant king was never a threat. It was just simply a matter of using as little resources and casualties as possible to wiping them. Even if he lived he would have been nuked to hell.
You asked who animated this; it was Madhouse! The same studio who did One-Punch Man (Season 1) and many other shows you have yet to experience.
Although I have to mention that the artists from Madhouse asked a lot of guys from Bones and freelancers for help.
@@johanliebert4622 freelancers animators help animating most of the animes
"Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice!"
that explosion is seriously, in my opinion, the best animated sequence in the show. beyond crisp.
actual Redline tier animation.
Regarding Netero's attack being the strongest move a human can muster is debatable. remember guys, you're forgetting that Nen is limitless, and Netero is a prime example of a human being who reached his peak regarding Nen under traditional circumstances. However, what if the individual Nen evolution isn't traditional, you're forgetting that there Nen can follow a condition system which immediately changes the rules of the game. The deadlier the condition that the individual sets, the stronger the Nen ability becomes. Kurapika and Chororo are prime examples. Nen in its traditional form follows the force with its rules while with conditions it follows the dark side of the force which can also be way stronger than the traditional ways.
Interesting
Micky: * wanting blow up NGL since day 1 *
-Miniature rose appears
Micky: * surprised pikachu face *
😂😂
When your 500 IQ checkmate move is a fucking nuclear bomb.
20:40 I don't think it's messed up at all that you rooted for Meruem, because so far, it seems like he's the hero of this arc who is undergoing some major character development.
Who's to say how he would grow? How his views of humans would change? ("Won't be using humans to propagate our species anymore" Sure you wouldn't Mereum, that's not total b.s. at all) I knew how dangerous he could be(and thus, why humanity would be so absolutely opposed to letting him, and the other ants, live), but damn, if I wasn't rooting for him by the end of this arc!
I'm gay.
damn I never even thought of it that way at all.
Yeah, the Japanese people take nuclear weapons very serious. The Godzilla from the first movies was a metaphor for the atom bomb.
@Aleksa Kurtovic are you ok?
The power of the atom, more powerful than 'gods'.
Aleksa Kurtovic
Well considering God doesn’t exist the nuke and/or atom bomb are the strongest thing currently in our existence
Mickey predicted that nuke but he still shooked
Remember how tough NETERO's leg when Killua Kicked it in the Hunter Exam?
killua didnt have nen, and nen users usually have this layer of protection at all times, even in its weakest form its probably miles ahead of basic human strenght
"Who animated this episode?" hm more than one people for sure lol
Man, Micky's been telling from the start to nuke em, just nuke em all, and his wish finally came through lol
Funny how Micky is just gazing and smiling. He's frozen in the beginning 😂
The pleasant sounds of the score in the background whenever horror occurs in each episode is so crazy! Whenever a human child is eaten by a Chimera Ant or something like this Poor Man's Rose explosion happens, euphoric music plays. It's such a mind fking.
Yes, this fight was better than any DB fight. I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan, btw.
A 1000 times better.
Even I am a DB fan but gotta appreciate what is great
@@jellalfernandes1309 Yeah
I love dbz and I love dbz fights
But sometimes I wish they would put just a little strategy into their fights
It would make the fights so much better
In the words of abridged Goku “If you can’t beat em, BOMB EM!”
When the hell was that
ABDALLAH TEKOUK it was in the super android 13 movie before he absorbs the spirit bomb
ABDALLAH TEKOUK at about 15:55
Togashi makes you love the villains that's why you should react to Yu Yu Hakusho
What's also interesting is that Netero probably had that bomb implanted for just anybody who was capable of defeating him in battle and not just the King. Netero was so prideful and arrogant that he couldn't let someone stronger than him live while he perished and it was meant to take out anyone strong enough to take down the strongest man in the world as they'd be too dangerous to be left alive.
Didn't he get it done before he left to take on the ants? I seem to remember him asking for a doctor who specializes in artificial organs and stuff
@@j.fowler5380 The doctor for artificial organs was for the queen of the ants
I remember when I first saw this episode, it instantly jettisoned Hunter x Hunter to my favorite anime of all time. From here on out it’s all heartstrings being tugged on. From this episode on is some of the best anime you’ll ever watch, so enjoy it all 🙂
This fight came down to a difference in view on what "evolution" is. Meruem referred to a biological/physical evolution, whereas Netero referred to a technological evolution. The difference between the ants and the humans is that the humans have always dealt with being weak physically, and have invented ways around their fragile exterior, whereas the ants were always biologically superior to species around them, so they never had the need to develop anything resembling weapons, let alone a bomb.
imagine netero getting a heart attack in the middle of the palace before leaving - nuking both the ants, hunters and the hundreds of thousands of people gathered outside...
From what was shown, I think the other governments would be fine with that, so long as it took out the ants. They probably would have resorted to that if the hunters had failed anyway.
Both characters who died in this arc kite and netero are also showing the audience their back in the intro. Praise togashi
they took the King to a weapons testing site for a reason ^^ ... and Neteros speach still gives me the shivers ... it's even better with the japanese word that means evolution/malice ^^
HUMANITY FIRST!! ^^
Your guys's Channel went down right before this episode came out. Haven't had a case of blue balls this bad in years. I've been waiting for this for almost a month now!
Maybe you should've checked the community posts?
They uploaded these as per the schedule (2 weeks ago) and linked it in a community post.
MADHOUSE is the house of production
Love the small details , how the narrator explains the rose shape of the bomb and everything. The ants were mere babies compared to a pantheon of human warfare and evolution spanning millennia.
Haha i love the guy in the middle he just look like me when i saw it the first time
This one of the singular best episodes in all Shonen I feel, the production and build of the fight was fantastic
I just watched this episode and god damn, this is one of the best episodes in anime history.
Was thinking you might not double drop but thank God you did! These episodes are too good not to watch together. Thank you Normies
This episode and 135 are the ones I've been waiting for.
Not 131?
I've waiting for 131.
we're THIS close to that episode ladies and gents!
Ant King said the pinnacle of all evolution is him. Netero said you don't know about evelution of humans so he showed him what we accoplished. The Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction
The Red Flower was the name of one o The Bomber ability.
19:39 did i just heared "he was a decent villain?"
I think he meant his behaviour
This is one of the best animated episodes of all time
Netero: "Well if you can't beat 'em.....NUKE 'EM!! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
Fucking intense episode. I was like the 2 middle reactors, so focused and quiet to witness this masterpiece
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTT???
Natero Lost his arm?
That never happened before
- Hunter Exam (One of the Examinee)
- Hisoka Heavens Arena
- Gon Greed Island Arc
I how the king is sitting down before Neteros arm has even landed on the floor
It is so poetic that the arm and leg he lost were the exact arm and leg he used against Gon in the very beginning during the hunter exam
This fight was the Pinnacle of human perfection VS the pinnacle of evolution
Never Underestimate Humanity's Potential for Malice!
At the end of this arc it's tough to say there's actual villains. Everything's gray, each character has their own perspective and if anything Netero might be the closest thing to a villain
I guess. But I mean the ants were literally eating humans. Netero basically just said I’m willing to prevent that by any means necessary. If the king and the guard had been like colt or Ikalgo and said he we just want exist peacefully and not eat humans im sure they would’ve agreed. But that wasn’t on the table.
One of the greatest episodes ever!! The best twist in the game!!
Netero: *loses leg
Rana: :0
Suraj: :0
Micky: >:|
Nahid: :D
Nahid = Rob confirmed
RHS_mkz Nah, Rob is more like: 🤡 or 🤤😪
I once heard someone draw parallels between the time during the Hunter Exams when Killua and Gon faced Netero during their competition to catch the ball. And how back then, Netero decided to handicap himself by not using his right arm and left leg....and how insanely enough during this match, the tables were turned and Netero instead lost his right leg and left arm
"wooooooooooooooooooooooooow" "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn" You guys aren't even trying anymore hahahaha
"he looks like ghandi bro" lmao
And now we know what genthru move is named after
King: “the ants will destroy everything humans hold dear!”
Humans: “been there, done that”
Welcome back guys, YT leave the Normies alone!! 😤
Suraj: "Wow... That's beautiful, man. Fucking beautiful... Nearly in tears"
Hxh fans: yo u will be soon
Mickey "A FUCKING NUKE!?" LMAO
U guys.. this anime is just something else yo, i don't even know what to say there is no anime thet's like it it's simply different from others. It's just .. damn it 🤦🏽♂️
exactly :)
my fav anime of all time
The big point was Netero thinking was right from the beginning of this fight was his knowledge of the bomb and Human race.
Meruem meant what he said, and he may have wreck havoc in order to create his equality dream world. But Netero knew. He knew that strenght, training, potential, all of that is inferior to the infinite potential of the Human Race and its potential to evolve, to destroy.
Meruem would never have conquered mankind, because mankind would have nuked the entire know world before letting that happen. And Netero knew it. He had to stop Meruem, because that was the only way to protect Humanity, not from the ant, but from itself.
what i understand with "trap the enemy with indiscriminate love" is because the enemy instints wont react because dont feel that you will do anything to them you are showing them love and that leave you open of the big shot i really love how they write this and the logic behind it
am i the only one who cries when watching this episode? it hits me every time.
Mickey was fully focused in this episode. Love to see it
I think it’s funny how we’re supposed to be impressed by the King’s strategy and way of thinking, when his strategy is similar to Gon’s against Genthru (Keep attacking), and he has never won a Gungi match, lol.
Gon wasn't trying to identify Genthru's bias. Not every aggressive strategies are the same. Gon vs Genthru was finalized by how Gon used his environment.
Daemon Spade Isn’t Genthru’s use of Gyo to protect himself from the use of Little Flower, a bias? A rhythm, a pattern that Gon was searching to exploit in the first half of the fight? Anyway, I don’t want to say beyond that there’s a 1:1 between the two fights. I think there’s more cunning on display in that battle, while Netero vs Mereum is pure physical spectacle.
Imagine netero getting a heart attack when he's with his comrades.
Theres the nuke Mickey's been calling for :D
I love that in a series full of magical creatures and supernatural abilities the most terrifying thing still in that world is the weapons created by man to wipe each other out.
SPOILER ALERT: Only TONPA can defeat the king
Do not understimate humanity's infinite potential for malice..... That line 😍😍😍😍
Damn I was hype to see 131 on youtube in a few weeks but we reset back to 126 from 128 😭😭 over a month wait now rip
Ep 127 and 128 will be uploaded this weekend
My mans out here fighting in his socks...
The foreshadowing is crazy that led up to this scene
Great reaction & discussion 💯💯💯
netero's Ultimate attack makes him the most hardcore military vet. and he still wasn't even at the top of humanity. he said it had bee 30 years. since he was in the top ranks of nen users. but also shows that Hiroshima still had a huge impact o Japan to this day.
Also the fact that Netero had a tendency to downplay his own power. He very well could still be the pinnacle of human nen user strength
@@SolidSnake240 true. but given the way ging uses his nen I can't ot agree with his estimate either.
man one thing i thought about was..why tf didn't netero have a healing hand? like he had plenty of nen and time to make that but apparently just decided not to..? also he was an enhancer it is literally his class so it shouldn't be hard. The leg was freshly chopped off so he could for sure just re-attach it..instead he get's the power to fuckin close his limbs shut like..??? wut??? but anyways this fight was still pretty fucking awesome, changed my life.
luv ur guys reaction
The arm and leg that gon and killua couldn't even catch.
I'm so glad that you mentioned how Komugi's games with the King affected his ability in this fight because without them Meruem is strong, but would've lost to this batttle of willpower and wits against Netero.
And yeah... apart from that I'm speechless too, humanity's malice won this fight, not its strength.
And here the emotional roller coaster begins.
Meruem went from genocide to concentration camps lol
I feel like people like going to every HxH's reaction videos to copy/paste all the analysis that have been made on the Manga
No matter what channel it is, you'll always see the same comments under the video lol
sry if my english is bad
Es verdad, todos repiten lo de siempre en los comentarios en vez de ser originales jajaja
i just realized in episode 7 the remaining arms and leg remains are the same legs and arm killua notice
So i was a bit confused because in the official manga translation netero says "never underestemate humanities potential for malice" where as here it was evolution. Turns out Togashi wrote both. Rather apt considering the line is proceded by an atom bomb.
I personally like "malice" more
Killua didn't run away from Netero _this_ chapter. If you go all the way back to episode 99 there is an odd scene when Killua is scouting the region, alerting people to not partake the census "Diego" has called for. While he is running in the woods, Killua suddenly sees a bright light, basically goes "NOPE" and turns to run in another direction. The scene pans to show Netero, sitting on the top of a mountain.
That was never explained back then.
Now we know that Netero was on that mountain, basically training his Zero Hand, visualizing the attack and building up his aura for it, basically what Bisky had Gon and Killua do when they would practice their Ren while they prepared for the fight against Knuckle and Shoot. From _dozens of kilometres away_ Killua could feel that, whatever was putting out that aura, was _monstrous_ and his instincts just told him to back the fuck off.
Netero had a simple point. No matter how much these creatures evolved biologically, they could never hope to match humanity's bottomless malice and technologically progression. There's plenty of cruelty that humans are capable of. The ants, while more powerful, were not inherently cruel. The species focused on hive mind and a simplistic mindset, combined with monstrous power. Humans are something else altogether, proven by everything wrong in the world today, with so many people still wilfully indulging in selfishness, greed and ignorance.