Ive watched all of your videos pertaining to the WOFT application over the past year. I’ve been putting my packet together since last November and you guys have helped immensely in the process. I was just recently selected and I signed my contract. I leave for basic in February and I wanted to thank you guys for all the helpful info. I don’t know if I would have made selection without your tips.
I have been chasing WOFT for the last 17-18 months as a high school to flight school candidate and finally got selected. I wanted to say thank you to you guys for these videos because they helped me understand the process and know what I was doing right as I went into the recruiters office.
you guys are awesome for sharing the app process and the journey. I came up short for a childhood astmah condition that I could of gotten taken care of should I had started the process a couple years before, but I think you guys started sharing right as I realized it was still possible for me at 31 and my 33rd birthday passed unfortunately after all the research and math tutoring and the recruiters finally pushing my packet through... The goal is still to fly hellis, but civilian side. Much appreciated for all the info when I was able, and thank you for your commitments to our nation fellahs.
I was selected as a civilian last week and enlisted 2 days ago! I ship August 12 for Ft. Sill. Thanks for all of your work on these guides. Made the process a lot easier.
@@bloodndestroy I did 6, which is the maximum. I didn't get one from a warrant officer aviator because I had some great ones already (FBI, US Marshals) but if you can reach out to one, do it. I say get as many as you can if you have a lot of people that can write for you and choose the best 6 from those. If you cant do 6, just do what you can, everything helps
@@bloodndestroy Just go to your nearest recruiting station Army office and tell them you're interested in woft. There's not a difference like that with recruiters, they work with everyone. I was lucky enough to be put in contact with a recruiter who was actually applying for woft themselves and knew all about it
Just wanted to thank you both. I was lost on everything before I watched your prior videos. I started this process in March 2017. My board is next month. Any tips on prepping for that on the civilian side would be awesome. Either way thanks a ton to both of you.
My WOFT packet is complete and I'm on the November board. You guys have been a HUGE help to me, so thank you. If everything works out, I'm very interested in the fixed wing stuff. I know that slots are very limited, and usually go quickly. But can you elaborate a bit more on how to secure a fixed wing slot if I wind up getting selected?
I've dropped a packet, transferred branches, completed the entire training pipeline and am getting ready to clear rucker since the last time y'all posted. Hit us with an update vid!
Brother I’ll be in fort Jackson for BCT in November as well! But I enlisted as a 15T and I’ll be going to fort eustis for AIT. I’m national guard so I’m gonna try to get my packet in once I get back to my unit
Gentlemen, Great videos and thanks for putting forth the time and effort into sharing your most up-to-date knowledge and experience on becoming an Army aviator. I am currently an active duty Marine Officer who is looking to become an Army aviator in California or Texas Army Guard. I’d love to apply for the WOFT board that is held specifically for commissioned officers at USAREC once a year in January, however I heard the competition for that board is extremely competitive and I personally think my SIFT score (48) is subpar. I’d love to continue my active duty military service as an Army Aviator but that option may seem far fetched. Maybe I should EAS, then apply as a civilian to have a better chance? With that said, I have been working with Army Guard recruiters who assured me that I’ll be competitive enough to fly for the Guard even with my subpar SIFT score (high selection rate). I simply rushed to get everything done in a month (SIFT and flight physical) prior to my deployment so it’s my fault for not properly preparing for the SIFT. I do feel confident that my leadership background in the Corps along with my PPL (fixed wing, 110hrs) will carry some weight when considering the whole-soldier-concept. However, as a guardsman, I do not like the fact that I am only a part-time Army aviator which will require me to have a full-time desk job to support my family. I apologize for ranting but I just wanted to share my situation. Maybe there is an opportunity to crossover from Guard to Active later down the road? Also, is it true that I will get to skip WOCS and report straight to Rucker since I already have a commissioning source from the Corps? Any input is appreciated. -Capt Anonymous, USMC
Getting my WOFT packet together and used "Fundamentals of flight",Trivium SIFT study guide. and another SIFT study guide to prepare for the SIFT exam next week. Very nervous about that test. Your info has helped I appreciate it.
@@NostalgicLink Well....I thought the test was going to be mostly about flight fundamentals...but no. It was mostly math and the picture orientation was blurry and terrible. I got 58 but still not happy since they had maybe 5 questions about aviation.
@@BlackHawk8825 I decided I was gonna look into a helicopter flight program at a college to go to before putting together my packet, because recently someone my recruiter was working with didn't get accepted, apparently because he had no flight experience, despite doing well on his ASVAB, SIFT, APFT, etc. Another guy on the same board did get accepted likely because he already had is private pilot's certificate and a degree in avionics... I realize people have gotten accepted without flight experience, but I want to increase my odds. Can you let us know if you get in? Thanks for the heads up on the SIFT.
Leiðulfr Link yeah. I’m currently on the fence between NG and big army. I know a few officers in the aviation unit that send guys to WOFT and they really need bodies. But I can let you know what happens eventually.
Gentlemen, I’m an active duty marine, and I’m dead set on going this route. I got into contact with a warrant officer recruiter, the only problem is, I only have 11 months left active duty. Word is, I either have to extend which is very unlikely to happen, or I have to EAS completely and go through the WOFT. I’m wondering if getting out completely and going through the WOFT will make me any less competitive. The only information I’ve really been able to find consists of your videos, I’m really thankful I found them.
Texas Shooter alright so from what I have heard (not verified information) the difference between being active and crossing over and coming from no longer being active is just a difference in which selection pool you are competing. Your current service will help regardless. The fact is, the Army still need pilots. So if you have the GT score, do well on your SIFT, and put together a decent packet, the odds are in your favor. It’s true that most inquiries that the recruiters deal with are for the 153A MOS. But do not let that discourage you as I have also been told by many in the branch that most interested in the program will fail to finish the application packet because it is extensive. Hope that helps a little.
Texas Shooter I am active duty AF and I was recently selected, I can attest that everything these guys say is true. I think I have some info that could help you make your decision. If you wanna know more just give me your email and I’ll hit you up.
Just want to say thank you for the series thus far! I am about to head out to basic in October and start my journey (transferring from the AF)... You guys have been an inspiration and have answered so many questions. Besides pt, what would you recommend learning/brushing up on to prepare for the training to come?
Wolfcreeker91 as always we are glad to hear it! Honestly there isn’t a whole heck of a lot to “brush up”on. Best advice I can offer is take it one day at a time and just know that the journey is LONG but 100% worth it!
Thanks for the update video guys, enjoyed. Just started working on my packet (resume, etc..) looking to take the SIFT in August. Appreciate all the content you guys have put on here, definitely helps answer some of my questions!
Hey guys, I'm currently in to process of creating my WOFT application packet. Haven't done my flight medical yet as i recently had lasik. That'll come in late october, so I'm kind of at hold right now. As im trying to figure everything out, I'm kind of curious about your tattoo sleeve, WO Foxberry (i apologize if that's not your actual name. I don't recall hearing your names, but saw "Foxberry" and "Bennet" on your shirts in your sift videos). Anyway, i currently got a tattoo since i met with my recruiter and tried to make sure with the recruiter that it sits within the Army's tattoo regulations. I was told that 2" above the wrist bone and 1" below the mid-elbow line falls in line with the regs. After getting the tattoo, I measured the tattoo and found it within that 1" below the elbow limit. So after looking up some forums, I've seen many responses to that. One of which includes "the wearer's hand must be able to cover the tattoo". After trying that, there are small portions that are still visible. Would i need to get a waiver for that? Tattoo laser removal surgery? I just ask because WO Foxberry's full sleeve tattoo. Any response is appreciated.
Since I can’t see the tattoo, all I can say is you’ll probably be fine as long as it’s not affiliated. Tattoo policies have got much more lax over the years, but you’ll have a lot of paperwork to fill out describing the meaning of your tats. You were close, it’s Roxberry and Bennett haha... best of luck to you.
Great video! I watched your 3 part video on the application process, and I think the easiest way to make my question short, would be to ask if being prior aircrew would be an advantage to use? I'm currently a C17 loadmaster with a combat deployment under my belt, and loads of combat flight hours. On top of that, would already having gone to Air Force basic training negate the need to go to Army basic (I'm not even sure if that is a requirement for WO)? Also, having already gone to AF SERE, would I still be required to go to Army SERE? Not really trying to go through that again, but of course I'd do it again to be pilot.
All sister services transfers must go through full Army BCT. Prior service Army with more than 3 years break used to have to do the full BCT cycle, too. Changed recently. Unlikely that you get pulled out of the normal training pipeline for such a short school like SERE, but who knows.
Iam currently active navy as an aviation machinist mate (AD) for about 10 years now. The videos have been great so far on the insight. My question for you is do you have to have a the 1306/7 for conditional release before you can start anything? Also for the Navy guys did you have to do a board like the street to seat people? Thanks and good luck
So I did the 1306/7 conditional release to get the orders from NAVPERS to basically show the CO he could sign my DD365 which is what the Army uses. In order to take the SIFT you will have to have the DD365 and in order to get your flight physical, you’ll need to pass the SIFT first. I did not have to go through a board, but the LOR from the Senior Flight Warrant is basically an interview, as he will be endorsing you.
So I’m a active 75th RR guy with my tab as a E4 I’ve also deployed to Iraq too. I’m currently a FO trying to get my JTAC qualification. I’ve been wanting to be a pilot since I joined but never knew how to but luckily y’all helped with that. I was wondering what schools or if there’s anything that would make me look good like air assault or pathfinder that I should do before doing the process to become a pilot?
They have some older vids on the channel with some good info. Are you with 2/75 by chance? I'm in a aviation unit on JBLM and am wanting to pursue becoming a aviator as well.
Sup guys I really love your videos they have a ton of info, but I just wanted to ask, as married sergeant in the army, how hard is it on your family. I know you said it’s tough and I know to progress you need to sacrifice but I just want to know if it’s like super stressful like a deployment would be or does it depend on how you and your family make it? I’ve heard your family can move with you while in flight training is that true? So any advice or insight would be great! Thanks guys keep it up!
Carlos De la rosa yes, it’s very time consuming, and can present challenges to the family life. But it is also true that going to flight school is considered a PCS due to the length of training. So your family can move with you to Fort Rucker. In fact, most of the married students in flight training have their families here with them.
Thanks for the videos. I am doing blue to green as well. I've been through 2 recruits already that helped me for a week then stop contacting me. Do you have any suggestions for recruiters to talk to? I'm still super motivated and can't wait to make it to fort Rucker!
Logan E you really want to make sure that you go on the usarec website and look up your regional Warrant Officer recruiter and give them a call! If you haven’t done that already. They will be the most up to date on any changes in the application process and most helpful. Whenever you do call the, however make sure that you already have you specific questions, and ensure you have done your due diligence to trying to find the answer to your question. Warrant Officer recruiters work an entire region as oppose to a school district or area like your typical recruiters.
Guys getting ready to go to WOCS soon, any advice? ive heard if you just shut up and color and do everything your told you can make it just fine. Dont expect a walk in the park but its not anything crazy, that true? just looking for some sound advice, what is the fail rate like? did a lot of candidates from your class wash out?
First off, thank you so much for the videos. A lot of the people I have asked about the WOFT program are not reliable because they just perpetuate rumors they've heard. Being an active duty army applicant, where would I go to find a senior warrant officer to reccomend me? Do I just go down to the airfield and start hunting down CW4s and 5s?
That’s all platform and mission specific. Some aircraft like C-12s burn holes in the sky all day. Something like the 64... with its maintenance record... good luck.
For the prior Navy experience, how many months prior to EAOS did the Navy release you? How many months did it take start to finish from leaving the navy to graduating pilot school?
I left the Navy about a year and a half to two years after re-enlisting. From the day I left the Navy to the day I graduated flight school for the Army was approaching 21 months. But I had some long hold times. So it would not be unrealistic to expect your training period to be a few months shorter.
I’m 32 years old with currently 12 years active duty Navy. I know I’ll need to submit a time in service waiver along with an age waiver since I haven’t fully gotten started yet. Question is, what do you feel my chances are with my time in service and age? Know of any other guys with my time in/age that got selected? I worked on F-18’s for 7 years before cross rating to my current job due to my other one being overmanned. Flying has always been my dream. Any gouge would be awesome! Thanks for your vids, guys.
Do the LORs need to be from army pilots? I was prior service in the marines in aviation and can easily get recommendations from majors and higher but I’m not sure if it carries any weight in the army
Soooo, I saw Lasik can be a disqualifying. How about no correction, but you do have to wear contacts? Or don't have to have 20/20 uncorrected for no waivers/problems?
Thanks so much for the info. I'm also enlisted Navy trying to find the instruction for going "blue to green." I can only find a NAVADMIN from 2009. Is there any instruction that's more up to date? Thanks!
@@silentchaos8 Thanks for the reply. What I'm looking for is the NAVADMIN that covers the topic for Blue to Green. I have to provide my CO with the Naval instruction to fill him in on the program and I'd like to give him something more recent than 2009 if I can.
Hello, I’m prior service and I reached out to my states aviation recruiter. One of the things they told me was I need to interview with the state aviation officer. What questions could expect, also how should I prepare for this?
Can you provide any insight on Comissioned officers being pilots? Recently heard that it’s possible, all this time I thought it was all warrant officers. While going through these different training schools, do you still get pass on the weekends and holidays or is training 7 days a week? Can you still use your phone on weekends for communication or do you need to write snail mail to the wife and kids?
Commissioned officers can be pilots yes. It all depends on what you want though. Flight time dramatically decreases the higher your rank, typically. Warrants fly their entire careers. I’ve seen commissioned officers forfeit their commission to go warrant and Warrants move to the RLO ranks after obtaining their degree (far less common though). It’s completely dependent on the individual and what you decide is best for you.
And no, it’s a 5 day work week like any other job AFTER WOCS. Obviously during WOCS you are in a training course that is “boot camp like” but with A LOT more attention to detail.
So I am one of those that doesn't have 20/20 vision without glasses or contacts. I am a prior service Marine and I am looking forward to this process. Are non 20/20 candidates/ WO in flight training able to use glasses/contacts? One of the things I've been considering was getting LASIK now prior to even submitting my package. Now is it a bad idea to get corrective eye surgery/LASIK prior to doing this whole process, going to WOCS, WOBC, WOFT ect.? Would it be recommended to hold off on it and have it done later once a pilot already? I know in your other videos it said LASIK can be disqualifying but it wasn't too clear. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
Better late than never with this information. I can only speak to my situation but the physical will not be approved at the state level until LASIK is completed and I a candidate has 20/20 or better without corrective contacts or glasses.
StaleTV I'm currently in the US Army and normally when we are in a classroom environment you're only allowed to bring water and maybe hard candy depending on the instructor.
So I’m already AD Army and I’m working on a packet. I was a little confused on yalls brief for SERE. Was it fun or hard? Lol. And the airframes are chosen by top students and down the list? I was a little confused on how choosing your airframe was explained. I want Blackhawks. Or at least it’s my goal if I make it there.
Travis Teal selection is done by ranking, the Army gives your class the the aircraft that it needs filled. For example if your have 12 AD Warrants due to select the Army may say we have 3 hawks; 3 Apaches, chinooks, and 3 C-12s. The number one ranked student then goes up and erases one of those off the board and selects that aircraft, the the number 2 ranked student and so on. It has happened though where the Army needed 12 Apache pilots or 12 Blackhawk pilots and everyone in that selection ended up with same aircraft. So that’s why we say it’s based off your performance and the needs of the Army at the time of your selection.
I’m just getting back on, I’m the navy guy…the other is doing very well, ill be trying to get with him as we are not stationed together. But trust, updates are on the way!
How does it work with national guardsmen when it comes to ranking? Do you simply already know what you will be flying based on what you have back at your squadron?
I was in Gold Flight graduated Oct 1987. 3/498 Medevac Ft Stewart, Georgia, UH-1H Platoon, Operation Desert Shield and Storm. If I can do it, anybody can!!! Don't let these guys fool you. Attack helicopters is extremely boring. Fly fast to a point. Shoot at targets and fly fast back to the rear. Utility helicopters are a lot more interesting. Many more types of missions. I was an e-5 during the entire course. Now they are warrant officers after WOCS. Fixed wing right out of flight school?
Wyatt Rutherford the chances are hard to really say for sure. From what I have seen, there has been a bit more fixed wing slots offered in recent selection than there typically has been in the past. This however is not to say that it will stay that way. Unfortunately you won’t know any real numbers till the day of selection and even then there are more factors involved like the OML, and class demographics. By that I mean, what do the other people in your class want? I’ve seen fixed wing go #1 and last in the same selection, I’ve also seen fixed wing disappear after the first three picks. I will say by the time you get there you will have a fairly good idea of what is getting picked and when once they reveal what is available. But if I had to give a number I’d say average from what I have seen is roughly 2-4 slots per selection.
Is it possible to get a contract for warrant officer and flight school from a prior service recruiter? I've got a year left in the Corps, and I'm considering a change of career. Flying rotar wing is something that really has peaked my interest.
Active duty navy here. Currently have 6 1/2 years of service. I was reading that now active duty Air Force and navy have to go to BCT first was that the case for you and is that even true
I'm sure a lot of people will chuckle at this question, but what's the food situation? Could I easily enough eat a plant based diet? I imagine there's fruits and vegetables in the chow hall during all of this training, am I wrong? Are you ever just given food with no choice on what it is? I know certain religious types can request a Kosher meal. Could one request a vegan meal? Yeah, yeah, I'm interested in joining the US military as a vegan and that's kind of hypocritical, but anyways... I appreciate the videos!
Ok guys, prior service 4 years Marine Corps, I've been out for 3 years, just getting my business portrait and LORs and essay ready. My recruiter is telling me that if by the time I get accepted I've been out for 4 years I will have to go back to basic training......but I'm "street to seat"...I'm a little confused if this guy is trying to get me to be enlisted and waste 5 years as you mentioned or what (I've dealt with recruiters already, like you said, they need numbers). Is it possible to go straight into WOCS for WOFT WITHOUT going back to basic training?
Luke Moore it is possible to get there and not have to go back to basic training and the Marines are typically the ones that don’t have to redo basic sense they cover a lot of combat oriented training in their basic as well. However, there is information in the usarec website that will state what the stipulations are to be able to bypass having to go back to basic. In this case I do not believe it’s a sucker play by your recruiter. I believe he is covering his base and actually trying to be very honest with you in that there is that possibility. When I came in I was Navy and went through the Army basic training and maintained my rank as well as NCO status so therefore I was allotted special privileges at Army basic. It will in the end be up to the instruction which I don’t have on hand but hope that this provides at least a little incite.
Just wondering are either of you guys married or have children and if so is your family with you during the entire training process or did they stay back home while you finish everything. Thanks for the vids.
Having a degree and ROTC looks good, but it also raises questions of why you went through ROTC and didn’t get set into a branch. Typically going through ROTC means you were already slated to go into a branch, but you got out somehow. Whether it be removal or DOR
I would start participating in sports. Gain that physical fitness along with the leadership potential that comes along with that. Be a good person. Helping others will help youself become a better individual. For example community serivce, food bank, animal shelters, retirement homes etc. And final is reach out. Contact a recruiter. Be very clear what you want to do. Do not accept anything less that a helicopter piliot. There is a program called "high school to flight school" that would allow you to get after it as soon as possible. Reach out to a local aviation unit. They have aviation pages on facebook. Reach out and interview some pilots. Do the leg work/research to reach out, they will see that and treat you accordingly. Good luck. Never accept defeat. Do not quit.
You can start flying small planes. You can solo at 16, and get your pilot's license at 17, apply while in high school. Looking committed like that would look great.
In a sense, yes. It’s based of placement in your class however. They have changed it slightly from “Selection Day” to “Reveal Day”. The only difference being that you put in your top three in rank order ahead of time. If you’re number one in your class it will dramatically increase your chances of getting exactly what you want. It used to be they would write what was available on a white board, and call out the names in rank order, then once they called your name you’d walk up and erase one of the available aircraft off the board and so on.
The syllabus has been cut almost in half since I went through in the Eighties. We didn't do any of that non-flying BS and we went all through as Warrant Officer Candidates. The new system kinda sucks...
I'm currently in the process of the street to seat, I'm 17 years old and I grasauate this upcoming January from highschool. My board will be that following April. I am in the process of all my medical exams and that jazz, what can I do from this time till the board to better myself from all the other candidates and make myself stand out more?
Immensely. Having a PPL, fixed or rotary, looks great for the board. Some people literally just cant handle being a pilot. You're showing the board you can.
Hello Gentlemen, say I was to enlist as an aircraft mechanic first..how long would I have to serve before I could apply to WOFT? This may be the best route for me to go
Daniel Bigelow I can’t give you a specific number or timeframe on this one as neither I or my street to seat counterpart took that route. I will say however, once you are enlisted it will be dependent on a signed conditional release by your commander. So if I were to guess, you’d probably have to wait long enough for them to believe you have fulfilled enough of your service obligation before they would sign off on you moving on to other things. It will also become based on your work performance. So if you choose to go that route, just understand you will first complete Basic Training, then AIT, then will go to a unit and be tested and evaluated, then they will have to allow you to apply, and then you will begin the packet, which on average takes roughly 6 months to complete if you are also working. But if that is the best avenue for you do to whatever circumstances, and your still young, then by all means we wish you the best and will try to help the best we can in the future.
Fixed wing, did you want the C12? Not to sound ungrateful but fuuuuuck that. Id be so bummed to go through everything only to get stuck in a c12 I know some really want it though.
The C12 is a great platform if you’re looking to build some fixed wing time for airlines. Most major airlines do not credit rotary time. The only major airline that I know of who credits rotary time is Delta. However, if your sole purpose and dream is to fly a rotary then the C12 could be a bummer.
Hey guys awesome video! I have a silly question. I get motion sickness sitting passenger in a bird, and sometimes in a car while driving passenger (rare)...i was wondering if being in control of the bird would overcome my motion sickness, rather than sitting passenger.
Maybe, but you're not always going to be in control of the aircraft you're flying in, either. You'll have to sit as passenger for your stick buddy, and you'll also be passenger on many other flights throughout your career.
Hi guys, my son active duty Infantry @ Rucker and just passed his SIFT test. He needs some advice/help with his packet and wanted to see if you were open to answering his questions? I can share his email address or yours. Let me know what is possible.
Thanks for the info ben shapiro and special agent mcgee!
now i cant un-see it, thanks.
Ive watched all of your videos pertaining to the WOFT application over the past year. I’ve been putting my packet together since last November and you guys have helped immensely in the process. I was just recently selected and I signed my contract. I leave for basic in February and I wanted to thank you guys for all the helpful info. I don’t know if I would have made selection without your tips.
How did it go?
Just started putting a packet together, y’all are a huge help, turns this from a fantasy into a obtainable goal
I have been chasing WOFT for the last 17-18 months as a high school to flight school candidate and finally got selected. I wanted to say thank you to you guys for these videos because they helped me understand the process and know what I was doing right as I went into the recruiters office.
JosiahBlade.... glad to hear it! Congratulations. That’s what these videos were obviously intended for.
Im a junior in highschool currently (17) any suggestions for application?
Where are you guys at now with your training? Bout time for another update, eh?
"We're really dumb" LOL... And I thought that you were the cream of the crop.....:)
When you say you’re “really dumb.” That makes me feel better cause I feel really dumb all the time. lol
Thank you gentlemen for the update. I recently finished my packet and I'm waiting for word from USAREC. Best of luck to both of you!
Thanks for the info on SERE. Finally someone gave some valuable input!
you guys are awesome for sharing the app process and the journey. I came up short for a childhood astmah condition that I could of gotten taken care of should I had started the process a couple years before, but I think you guys started sharing right as I realized it was still possible for me at 31 and my 33rd birthday passed unfortunately after all the research and math tutoring and the recruiters finally pushing my packet through... The goal is still to fly hellis, but civilian side.
Much appreciated for all the info when I was able, and thank you for your commitments to our nation fellahs.
ayeee im in the process for WOFT just took the ASVAB TODAY!!!!!
I was selected as a civilian last week and enlisted 2 days ago! I ship August 12 for Ft. Sill. Thanks for all of your work on these guides. Made the process a lot easier.
How many letters of recommendation did you have?
@@bloodndestroy I did 6, which is the maximum. I didn't get one from a warrant officer aviator because I had some great ones already (FBI, US Marshals) but if you can reach out to one, do it. I say get as many as you can if you have a lot of people that can write for you and choose the best 6 from those. If you cant do 6, just do what you can, everything helps
@@TheLastArbiter Okay. And which kind of recruiter did you go through? An enlisted recruiter or officer recruiter, etc.
@@bloodndestroy Just go to your nearest recruiting station Army office and tell them you're interested in woft. There's not a difference like that with recruiters, they work with everyone. I was lucky enough to be put in contact with a recruiter who was actually applying for woft themselves and knew all about it
@@TheLastArbiter I see. And how long did the process take from the moment you talked to the recruiter to the moment you were accepted by the board?
Just wanted to thank you both. I was lost on everything before I watched your prior videos. I started this process in March 2017. My board is next month. Any tips on prepping for that on the civilian side would be awesome. Either way thanks a ton to both of you.
Just graduated 15R10... I'm aspiring to submit my packet for WOCS once I get to my unit. Thank you for the update!
My WOFT packet is complete and I'm on the November board. You guys have been a HUGE help to me, so thank you. If everything works out, I'm very interested in the fixed wing stuff. I know that slots are very limited, and usually go quickly. But can you elaborate a bit more on how to secure a fixed wing slot if I wind up getting selected?
What's your status now ?
status update?
@@Estabvn wow sorry, forgot about this. I'm in the Chinook course now. Fixed wing didn't work out, but I got the next best thing!
@@dks13827 I'm in the Chinook course
@@xXbrick84Xx hey could I have a conversation with you? I'm trying to put together my packet and I had questions on the entire process
I've dropped a packet, transferred branches, completed the entire training pipeline and am getting ready to clear rucker since the last time y'all posted. Hit us with an update vid!
What branch?
Thank you both for all of the videos. I was just selected as a Civilian in the May board!
Congratulations, me too! When/where do you ship?
@@TheLastArbiter BCT November, WOCS next February. Maybe I'll see you there!
Fort Jackson for BCT
@@loganp.9987 I'll be just ahead of you. I ship to Sill on August 12 and WOCS October 30. Good luck!
Brother I’ll be in fort Jackson for BCT in November as well! But I enlisted as a 15T and I’ll be going to fort eustis for AIT. I’m national guard so I’m gonna try to get my packet in once I get back to my unit
Gentlemen,
Great videos and thanks for putting forth the time and effort into sharing your most up-to-date knowledge and experience on becoming an Army aviator.
I am currently an active duty Marine Officer who is looking to become an Army aviator in California or Texas Army Guard. I’d love to apply for the WOFT board that is held specifically for commissioned officers at USAREC once a year in January, however I heard the competition for that board is extremely competitive and I personally think my SIFT score (48) is subpar. I’d love to continue my active duty military service as an Army Aviator but that option may seem far fetched. Maybe I should EAS, then apply as a civilian to have a better chance?
With that said, I have been working with Army Guard recruiters who assured me that I’ll be competitive enough to fly for the Guard even with my subpar SIFT score (high selection rate). I simply rushed to get everything done in a month (SIFT and flight physical) prior to my deployment so it’s my fault for not properly preparing for the SIFT. I do feel confident that my leadership background in the Corps along with my PPL (fixed wing, 110hrs) will carry some weight when considering the whole-soldier-concept. However, as a guardsman, I do not like the fact that I am only a part-time Army aviator which will require me to have a full-time desk job to support my family.
I apologize for ranting but I just wanted to share my situation. Maybe there is an opportunity to crossover from Guard to Active later down the road? Also, is it true that I will get to skip WOCS and report straight to Rucker since I already have a commissioning source from the Corps? Any input is appreciated.
-Capt Anonymous, USMC
Hey guys know you don't get a high amount of views so its great you guys made these videos to get some info out there!
Getting my WOFT packet together and used "Fundamentals of flight",Trivium SIFT study guide. and another SIFT study guide to prepare for the SIFT exam next week. Very nervous about that test. Your info has helped I appreciate it.
How did it go?
@@NostalgicLink Well....I thought the test was going to be mostly about flight fundamentals...but no. It was mostly math and the picture orientation was blurry and terrible. I got 58 but still not happy since they had maybe 5 questions about aviation.
@@BlackHawk8825 I decided I was gonna look into a helicopter flight program at a college to go to before putting together my packet, because recently someone my recruiter was working with didn't get accepted, apparently because he had no flight experience, despite doing well on his ASVAB, SIFT, APFT, etc. Another guy on the same board did get accepted likely because he already had is private pilot's certificate and a degree in avionics...
I realize people have gotten accepted without flight experience, but I want to increase my odds.
Can you let us know if you get in?
Thanks for the heads up on the SIFT.
Leiðulfr Link yeah. I’m currently on the fence between NG and big army. I know a few officers in the aviation unit that send guys to WOFT and they really need bodies. But I can let you know what happens eventually.
@@BlackHawk8825 what did you end up doing?
Thanks guys! My son is considering this route and your videos are very helpful. Where are you guys now? Hope you are well!
Gentlemen, I’m an active duty marine, and I’m dead set on going this route. I got into contact with a warrant officer recruiter, the only problem is, I only have 11 months left active duty. Word is, I either have to extend which is very unlikely to happen, or I have to EAS completely and go through the WOFT. I’m wondering if getting out completely and going through the WOFT will make me any less competitive. The only information I’ve really been able to find consists of your videos, I’m really thankful I found them.
Texas Shooter alright so from what I have heard (not verified information) the difference between being active and crossing over and coming from no longer being active is just a difference in which selection pool you are competing. Your current service will help regardless. The fact is, the Army still need pilots. So if you have the GT score, do well on your SIFT, and put together a decent packet, the odds are in your favor. It’s true that most inquiries that the recruiters deal with are for the 153A MOS. But do not let that discourage you as I have also been told by many in the branch that most interested in the program will fail to finish the application packet because it is extensive. Hope that helps a little.
Green Baggers thanks a ton. I’m putting it together right now
Texas Shooter I am active duty AF and I was recently selected, I can attest that everything these guys say is true. I think I have some info that could help you make your decision. If you wanna know more just give me your email and I’ll hit you up.
I sent you an email, you can go ahead and delete this comment so that your email isnt hanging out in the open like that.
Very much enjoying the fact that I am seeing cooperation amongst all the hopefuls here! Keep it up everyone, this is what it’s all about!
Thank you so much for this guys! What determines your OML and where you stand for airframe selection? Thank you!
Just want to say thank you for the series thus far! I am about to head out to basic in October and start my journey (transferring from the AF)... You guys have been an inspiration and have answered so many questions. Besides pt, what would you recommend learning/brushing up on to prepare for the training to come?
Wolfcreeker91 as always we are glad to hear it! Honestly there isn’t a whole heck of a lot to “brush up”on. Best advice I can offer is take it one day at a time and just know that the journey is LONG but 100% worth it!
Thanks for the update video guys, enjoyed. Just started working on my packet (resume, etc..) looking to take the SIFT in August. Appreciate all the content you guys have put on here, definitely helps answer some of my questions!
Hey guys, I'm currently in to process of creating my WOFT application packet. Haven't done my flight medical yet as i recently had lasik. That'll come in late october, so I'm kind of at hold right now. As im trying to figure everything out, I'm kind of curious about your tattoo sleeve, WO Foxberry (i apologize if that's not your actual name. I don't recall hearing your names, but saw "Foxberry" and "Bennet" on your shirts in your sift videos).
Anyway, i currently got a tattoo since i met with my recruiter and tried to make sure with the recruiter that it sits within the Army's tattoo regulations. I was told that 2" above the wrist bone and 1" below the mid-elbow line falls in line with the regs. After getting the tattoo, I measured the tattoo and found it within that 1" below the elbow limit. So after looking up some forums, I've seen many responses to that. One of which includes "the wearer's hand must be able to cover the tattoo". After trying that, there are small portions that are still visible. Would i need to get a waiver for that? Tattoo laser removal surgery? I just ask because WO Foxberry's full sleeve tattoo. Any response is appreciated.
Since I can’t see the tattoo, all I can say is you’ll probably be fine as long as it’s not affiliated. Tattoo policies have got much more lax over the years, but you’ll have a lot of paperwork to fill out describing the meaning of your tats. You were close, it’s Roxberry and Bennett haha... best of luck to you.
I'm currently headed to take my flight physical. I'm very excited. How has the career treated you so far? Are you enjoying your unit etc?
Update video incoming
Do you know a Danny Deardorff? He should be a 1LT. And he’s in Apache flight school.
Great video! I watched your 3 part video on the application process, and I think the easiest way to make my question short, would be to ask if being prior aircrew would be an advantage to use? I'm currently a C17 loadmaster with a combat deployment under my belt, and loads of combat flight hours. On top of that, would already having gone to Air Force basic training negate the need to go to Army basic (I'm not even sure if that is a requirement for WO)? Also, having already gone to AF SERE, would I still be required to go to Army SERE? Not really trying to go through that again, but of course I'd do it again to be pilot.
All sister services transfers must go through full Army BCT. Prior service Army with more than 3 years break used to have to do the full BCT cycle, too. Changed recently. Unlikely that you get pulled out of the normal training pipeline for such a short school like SERE, but who knows.
Iam currently active navy as an aviation machinist mate (AD) for about 10 years now. The videos have been great so far on the insight. My question for you is do you have to have a the 1306/7 for conditional release before you can start anything? Also for the Navy guys did you have to do a board like the street to seat people? Thanks and good luck
So I did the 1306/7 conditional release to get the orders from NAVPERS to basically show the CO he could sign my DD365 which is what the Army uses. In order to take the SIFT you will have to have the DD365 and in order to get your flight physical, you’ll need to pass the SIFT first. I did not have to go through a board, but the LOR from the Senior Flight Warrant is basically an interview, as he will be endorsing you.
So I’m a active 75th RR guy with my tab as a E4 I’ve also deployed to Iraq too. I’m currently a FO trying to get my JTAC qualification. I’ve been wanting to be a pilot since I joined but never knew how to but luckily y’all helped with that. I was wondering what schools or if there’s anything that would make me look good like air assault or pathfinder that I should do before doing the process to become a pilot?
They have some older vids on the channel with some good info. Are you with 2/75 by chance? I'm in a aviation unit on JBLM and am wanting to pursue becoming a aviator as well.
Wish these guys would come back
Sup guys I really love your videos they have a ton of info, but I just wanted to ask, as married sergeant in the army, how hard is it on your family. I know you said it’s tough and I know to progress you need to sacrifice but I just want to know if it’s like super stressful like a deployment would be or does it depend on how you and your family make it? I’ve heard your family can move with you while in flight training is that true? So any advice or insight would be great! Thanks guys keep it up!
Carlos De la rosa yes, it’s very time consuming, and can present challenges to the family life. But it is also true that going to flight school is considered a PCS due to the length of training. So your family can move with you to Fort Rucker. In fact, most of the married students in flight training have their families here with them.
How did you get fixed wing? We’re you top of your class?
Thanks for the videos. I am doing blue to green as well. I've been through 2 recruits already that helped me for a week then stop contacting me. Do you have any suggestions for recruiters to talk to? I'm still super motivated and can't wait to make it to fort Rucker!
Logan E you really want to make sure that you go on the usarec website and look up your regional Warrant Officer recruiter and give them a call! If you haven’t done that already. They will be the most up to date on any changes in the application process and most helpful. Whenever you do call the, however make sure that you already have you specific questions, and ensure you have done your due diligence to trying to find the answer to your question. Warrant Officer recruiters work an entire region as oppose to a school district or area like your typical recruiters.
thanks for the information. nice sleeve by the way
Guys getting ready to go to WOCS soon, any advice? ive heard if you just shut up and color and do everything your told you can make it just fine. Dont expect a walk in the park but its not anything crazy, that true? just looking for some sound advice, what is the fail rate like? did a lot of candidates from your class wash out?
First off, thank you so much for the videos. A lot of the people I have asked about the WOFT program are not reliable because they just perpetuate rumors they've heard. Being an active duty army applicant, where would I go to find a senior warrant officer to reccomend me? Do I just go down to the airfield and start hunting down CW4s and 5s?
Jake well that’s actually what I did. I cold called till I found one willing to sit down and basically conduct an interview with me.
About time lol Good video Gents! I appreciate the info!
What phase did you get that sleeve?
I appreciate the videos, they have been helpful! One question, how many flight hours can one roughly accumulate a month/year with the army? Thanks!!
That’s all platform and mission specific. Some aircraft like C-12s burn holes in the sky all day. Something like the 64... with its maintenance record... good luck.
For the prior Navy experience, how many months prior to EAOS did the Navy release you? How many months did it take start to finish from leaving the navy to graduating pilot school?
I left the Navy about a year and a half to two years after re-enlisting. From the day I left the Navy to the day I graduated flight school for the Army was approaching 21 months. But I had some long hold times. So it would not be unrealistic to expect your training period to be a few months shorter.
I’m 32 years old with currently 12 years active duty Navy. I know I’ll need to submit a time in service waiver along with an age waiver since I haven’t fully gotten started yet. Question is, what do you feel my chances are with my time in service and age? Know of any other guys with my time in/age that got selected? I worked on F-18’s for 7 years before cross rating to my current job due to my other one being overmanned. Flying has always been my dream. Any gouge would be awesome! Thanks for your vids, guys.
Marshal Smith you’ll be fine, cut off for flight is 33 years old, and even that is waiverable. Get started!
Nice video guys, thanks for the info.
Do the LORs need to be from army pilots? I was prior service in the marines in aviation and can easily get recommendations from majors and higher but I’m not sure if it carries any weight in the army
Brass carries wait regardless. But, there is a required LOR from a Senior Army Warrant (CWO3 or above) that must endorse you.
Soooo, I saw Lasik can be a disqualifying. How about no correction, but you do have to wear contacts? Or don't have to have 20/20 uncorrected for no waivers/problems?
Jonathan May I have LASIK and I’m a 60 guy. Needed it in order to qualify.
Thanks so much for the info. I'm also enlisted Navy trying to find the instruction for going "blue to green." I can only find a NAVADMIN from 2009. Is there any instruction that's more up to date? Thanks!
Check out their first video. They cover the forms you need.
@@silentchaos8 Thanks for the reply. What I'm looking for is the NAVADMIN that covers the topic for Blue to Green. I have to provide my CO with the Naval instruction to fill him in on the program and I'd like to give him something more recent than 2009 if I can.
How does this affect guard pilots?
Hello, I’m prior service and I reached out to my states aviation recruiter. One of the things they told me was I need to interview with the state aviation officer. What questions could expect, also how should I prepare for this?
Studying and getting my packet together right now
Can you provide any insight on Comissioned officers being pilots? Recently heard that it’s possible, all this time I thought it was all warrant officers. While going through these different training schools, do you still get pass on the weekends and holidays or is training 7 days a week? Can you still use your phone on weekends for communication or do you need to write snail mail to the wife and kids?
Commissioned officers can be pilots yes. It all depends on what you want though. Flight time dramatically decreases the higher your rank, typically. Warrants fly their entire careers. I’ve seen commissioned officers forfeit their commission to go warrant and Warrants move to the RLO ranks after obtaining their degree (far less common though). It’s completely dependent on the individual and what you decide is best for you.
And no, it’s a 5 day work week like any other job AFTER WOCS. Obviously during WOCS you are in a training course that is “boot camp like” but with A LOT more attention to detail.
WHERE'S AN UPDATEEE FOR 2020
Right?!?!?!
Here’s your update, MEPs is backed up, and due to poor retention all contracts are 10 years minimum
So I am one of those that doesn't have 20/20 vision without glasses or contacts. I am a prior service Marine and I am looking forward to this process. Are non 20/20 candidates/ WO in flight training able to use glasses/contacts? One of the things I've been considering was getting LASIK now prior to even submitting my package. Now is it a bad idea to get corrective eye surgery/LASIK prior to doing this whole process, going to WOCS, WOBC, WOFT ect.? Would it be recommended to hold off on it and have it done later once a pilot already? I know in your other videos it said LASIK can be disqualifying but it wasn't too clear. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
Better late than never with this information. I can only speak to my situation but the physical will not be approved at the state level until LASIK is completed and I a candidate has 20/20 or better without corrective contacts or glasses.
I would highly recommend talking to aviation company's medical support, yo verify the best route for your situation
How does the process work with becoming an Apache pilot in the guard?
Silly question but I'm curious....are you allowed to bring food to class during flight school?
had me chuckling for a while
Benjamin Herbert this is a good question
StaleTV I'm currently in the US Army and normally when we are in a classroom environment you're only allowed to bring water and maybe hard candy depending on the instructor.
So I’m already AD Army and I’m working on a packet. I was a little confused on yalls brief for SERE. Was it fun or hard? Lol. And the airframes are chosen by top students and down the list? I was a little confused on how choosing your airframe was explained. I want Blackhawks. Or at least it’s my goal if I make it there.
Travis Teal selection is done by ranking, the Army gives your class the the aircraft that it needs filled. For example if your have 12 AD Warrants due to select the Army may say we have 3 hawks; 3 Apaches, chinooks, and 3 C-12s. The number one ranked student then goes up and erases one of those off the board and selects that aircraft, the the number 2 ranked student and so on. It has happened though where the Army needed 12 Apache pilots or 12 Blackhawk pilots and everyone in that selection ended up with same aircraft. So that’s why we say it’s based off your performance and the needs of the Army at the time of your selection.
You know everything you need to know about SERE, they explained it with perfect clarity.
how did it end up going?
How are y’all doing now? We want some updates!!
I’m just getting back on, I’m the navy guy…the other is doing very well, ill be trying to get with him as we are not stationed together. But trust, updates are on the way!
How does it work with national guardsmen when it comes to ranking? Do you simply already know what you will be flying based on what you have back at your squadron?
motomouth33 YEP! If you’re a 60 guy you could go L or M Model.
Do commissioned officers get C-12s?
Commissioned officers get to fly a desk
Hi guys. Question who holds Civilian Helicopter Licenses, needs to do SIFT ?
I was in Gold Flight graduated Oct 1987. 3/498 Medevac Ft Stewart, Georgia, UH-1H Platoon, Operation Desert Shield and Storm. If I can do it, anybody can!!! Don't let these guys fool you. Attack helicopters is extremely boring. Fly fast to a point. Shoot at targets and fly fast back to the rear. Utility helicopters are a lot more interesting. Many more types of missions. I was an e-5 during the entire course. Now they are warrant officers after WOCS. Fixed wing right out of flight school?
What are the chances of going fixed wing?I have passed the SIFT and are working on my LORs and medical exams and I am really hoping for fixed wing.
Wyatt Rutherford the chances are hard to really say for sure. From what I have seen, there has been a bit more fixed wing slots offered in recent selection than there typically has been in the past. This however is not to say that it will stay that way. Unfortunately you won’t know any real numbers till the day of selection and even then there are more factors involved like the OML, and class demographics. By that I mean, what do the other people in your class want? I’ve seen fixed wing go #1 and last in the same selection, I’ve also seen fixed wing disappear after the first three picks. I will say by the time you get there you will have a fairly good idea of what is getting picked and when once they reveal what is available. But if I had to give a number I’d say average from what I have seen is roughly 2-4 slots per selection.
Is it possible to get a contract for warrant officer and flight school from a prior service recruiter? I've got a year left in the Corps, and I'm considering a change of career. Flying rotar wing is something that really has peaked my interest.
Look at their WOFT application video, they spell it out there
My recruiter put a prior service marine with minor disability into the WOFT program right before my packet. Totally doable.
awesome. thanks for the reply brothers.
Active duty navy here. Currently have 6 1/2 years of service. I was reading that now active duty Air Force and navy have to go to BCT first was that the case for you and is that even true
Christopher Samborsky yes that is true, you will maintain your current rank however, so it’s a bit of a different experience.
I'm sure a lot of people will chuckle at this question, but what's the food situation? Could I easily enough eat a plant based diet? I imagine there's fruits and vegetables in the chow hall during all of this training, am I wrong? Are you ever just given food with no choice on what it is? I know certain religious types can request a Kosher meal. Could one request a vegan meal? Yeah, yeah, I'm interested in joining the US military as a vegan and that's kind of hypocritical, but anyways...
I appreciate the videos!
Yes, even the MREs have options.
Ok guys, prior service 4 years Marine Corps, I've been out for 3 years, just getting my business portrait and LORs and essay ready. My recruiter is telling me that if by the time I get accepted I've been out for 4 years I will have to go back to basic training......but I'm "street to seat"...I'm a little confused if this guy is trying to get me to be enlisted and waste 5 years as you mentioned or what (I've dealt with recruiters already, like you said, they need numbers). Is it possible to go straight into WOCS for WOFT WITHOUT going back to basic training?
Luke Moore it is possible to get there and not have to go back to basic training and the Marines are typically the ones that don’t have to redo basic sense they cover a lot of combat oriented training in their basic as well. However, there is information in the usarec website that will state what the stipulations are to be able to bypass having to go back to basic. In this case I do not believe it’s a sucker play by your recruiter. I believe he is covering his base and actually trying to be very honest with you in that there is that possibility. When I came in I was Navy and went through the Army basic training and maintained my rank as well as NCO status so therefore I was allotted special privileges at Army basic. It will in the end be up to the instruction which I don’t have on hand but hope that this provides at least a little incite.
Just wondering are either of you guys married or have children and if so is your family with you during the entire training process or did they stay back home while you finish everything. Thanks for the vids.
going through this school is a PCS move to Ft Rucker, AL. So, your family will go with you.
Does it look better on you’re WOFT application if you get a college degree and do 4 years of rotc
I also would like to know!
Yes, but it's not a requirement.
Having a degree and ROTC looks good, but it also raises questions of why you went through ROTC and didn’t get set into a branch. Typically going through ROTC means you were already slated to go into a branch, but you got out somehow. Whether it be removal or DOR
Is this all done at ft. Rucker? From start to finish?
Tate Coussens yes, all of it.
Give us another update, we crave information!
so i am 14, and have dreamed to fly helicopters my whole life. I feel like i'm overthinking this but is there anything i can do to get started early
I would start participating in sports. Gain that physical fitness along with the leadership potential that comes along with that. Be a good person. Helping others will help youself become a better individual. For example community serivce, food bank, animal shelters, retirement homes etc. And final is reach out. Contact a recruiter. Be very clear what you want to do. Do not accept anything less that a helicopter piliot. There is a program called "high school to flight school" that would allow you to get after it as soon as possible. Reach out to a local aviation unit. They have aviation pages on facebook. Reach out and interview some pilots.
Do the leg work/research to reach out, they will see that and treat you accordingly.
Good luck. Never accept defeat. Do not quit.
You can start flying small planes. You can solo at 16, and get your pilot's license at 17, apply while in high school. Looking committed like that would look great.
notyour boi Play Sports and join Civil Air Patrol
Anyone know if they broke down how many people In their class went to each air frame?
What is the percentage of straight out of college people in the WOFT?
Hi, is it true that you select what helicopter you fly during WOFT?
In a sense, yes. It’s based of placement in your class however. They have changed it slightly from “Selection Day” to “Reveal Day”. The only difference being that you put in your top three in rank order ahead of time. If you’re number one in your class it will dramatically increase your chances of getting exactly what you want. It used to be they would write what was available on a white board, and call out the names in rank order, then once they called your name you’d walk up and erase one of the available aircraft off the board and so on.
The syllabus has been cut almost in half since I went through in the Eighties. We didn't do any of that non-flying BS and we went all through as Warrant Officer Candidates. The new system kinda sucks...
I'm currently in the process of the street to seat, I'm 17 years old and I grasauate this upcoming January from highschool. My board will be that following April. I am in the process of all my medical exams and that jazz, what can I do from this time till the board to better myself from all the other candidates and make myself stand out more?
did you get in?
Any more updates?
The minimum for the contract is now 10years
and is there any benefits if i get a pilots licence before i apply as a warrant officer?
Immensely. Having a PPL, fixed or rotary, looks great for the board. Some people literally just cant handle being a pilot. You're showing the board you can.
This probably a crazy question but can you attend WOCS/WOFT with braces. I cannot find any info on this. Thanks
AR 40-501 has the answers you need. The answer is likely no.
Hello Gentlemen, say I was to enlist as an aircraft mechanic first..how long would I have to serve before I could apply to WOFT? This may be the best route for me to go
Daniel Bigelow I can’t give you a specific number or timeframe on this one as neither I or my street to seat counterpart took that route. I will say however, once you are enlisted it will be dependent on a signed conditional release by your commander. So if I were to guess, you’d probably have to wait long enough for them to believe you have fulfilled enough of your service obligation before they would sign off on you moving on to other things. It will also become based on your work performance. So if you choose to go that route, just understand you will first complete Basic Training, then AIT, then will go to a unit and be tested and evaluated, then they will have to allow you to apply, and then you will begin the packet, which on average takes roughly 6 months to complete if you are also working. But if that is the best avenue for you do to whatever circumstances, and your still young, then by all means we wish you the best and will try to help the best we can in the future.
How did you get put in fixed wing?
As a current heli pilot looking in to WOFT I really dont wanna be stuck,in fw
@@caseyfitz2136 5% of the army's airframes are fixed. The chances of you even being eligible to CHOOSE fixed wing are small, let alone being forced.
Fixed wing, did you want the C12?
Not to sound ungrateful but fuuuuuck that. Id be so bummed to go through everything only to get stuck in a c12
I know some really want it though.
The C12 is a great platform if you’re looking to build some fixed wing time for airlines. Most major airlines do not credit rotary time. The only major airline that I know of who credits rotary time is Delta. However, if your sole purpose and dream is to fly a rotary then the C12 could be a bummer.
@@MyViewFrom Yup younger me has no interest in commercial. Maybe Ill regret that in 8 years but I want the mission of rotor wing
Hey guys awesome video! I have a silly question. I get motion sickness sitting passenger in a bird, and sometimes in a car while driving passenger (rare)...i was wondering if being in control of the bird would overcome my motion sickness, rather than sitting passenger.
Maybe, but you're not always going to be in control of the aircraft you're flying in, either. You'll have to sit as passenger for your stick buddy, and you'll also be passenger on many other flights throughout your career.
@@allenklingsporn6993 thanks for the reply! Since these guys did not respond...
Hi guys, my son active duty Infantry @ Rucker and just passed his SIFT test. He needs some advice/help with his packet and wanted to see if you were open to answering his questions? I can share his email address or yours. Let me know what is possible.
Hey Just getting active again, always open to help. Things have been very busy lately. So what are your questions?