thanks a lot, that's definitely the vibe i was aiming for so i really appreciate that. i've written quite a bit of stuff in this style, ,planning to upload more in the future
atonal clean intro + atonal riffing with filthy high-gain meshuggah type tone in or around f tuning + same octave bass + virtuoso soloing + polymeter between cymbals on quarter notes and everything else synchronised on cyclical patterns creating monster groove = meshuggah type song
Thank you, I appreciate that. As far as the guitar, I think it's great. I haven't played any other 8's so I couldn't give a comparison but it's well built, plays nicely, for me it's an absolute bargain for the price.
@@jjrrecording awesome dude. I live in Australia where it costs more than I was used to in the U.S. so I'm wanting to make sure I spend wisely. I'm checking one out in just a few days. This video gives me a lot of confidence in its tone and playability. Hell of an arrangement.
@@nickborrrego It's always a good idea to play before you buy if possible for sure. I bought mine online without trying it because the nearest store to me is about 250 miles so wasn't practical to try one first. Ibanez are generally very reliable for quality in my experience so far though so I wasn't worried, good luck with yours and thanks again.
@@jjrrecording hey dude just wanted to mention I've put it on a payment plan at my local shop. Luckily I live a lot closer to mine than you did to hours. It's been nice to pick up a guitar and have less of an idea of how to use these lower strings.
@@nickborrrego That's awesome dude, thanks for the update. I hope you have a lot of fun getting to grips with it, I certainly did with mine. Even now it still throws me off from time to time haha
Almost 14 years ago, my mom bought me an Ibanez RG321MH for my birthday, it was my first guitar. It looks identical to this one, identical layout with the knobs and 5 way switch (without checking it, I already know it's that ibanez 5 way switch they put on ALL their guitars with double humbuckers lmao). I still have that guitar, plays perfectly, never gave me a reason to change it for anything else. And it was like 500 bucks at the time. Now this RGMS8 seems to be the exact same deal but with 8 strings and multiscale, it's also cheap as hell and I already know you're gonna be playing that thing for the next decade at least. Ibanez just knows how to make no-nonsense budget guitars.
They really do, I also have some pretty expensive Ibanez guitars and although the build quality is higher the main difference is just more expensive components, the reliability/playability is basically the same on the cheaper models in my experience so far, love them all.
Just ordered mine should be here soon enough, can't wait to see how an 8 string plays, been waiting forever to make this purchase and this was that one guitar I've had my eyes on awhile. Nice fucking demo my guy! 🤘💪🔥
Yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, a lot of fun though. I also have a couple of 7 string guitars. You can get 9 and 10 string guitars as well but 8 is as far as I go haha
@@gestaltzerfaII Yeah, they are an incredible band for sure and it's a style of music I love writing. I think it helps to focus on writing something that sounds cool/appeals to your own personal taste rather than try to mimic something specific, I find that creates a more genuine feel/vibe to the music. At least, that's the hope anyway haha
Thanks very much, I'm a big fan of Meshuggah so I really appreciate that. I did record the bass for it too yeah, just a cheap Ibanez going through the Neural Parallax plug-in.
Thanks very much, it's a half step down from standard so from low to high it's F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb bb eb. I like the extra depth the half step down gives the sound.
Thanks dude, sure thing, I played in the bass using a cheap Ibanez 5 string through the Neural DSP Parallax plugin, makes it really easy to get a solid bass tone going.
Im here cause my son wants an 8 string. You guys like this one? P. S. I took him to the Messhuggah concert in Cincy, so I know a lil something about this.
I love this guitar yeah. If price isn't an issue, there are definitely better guitars and in particular, pickups but in the price range I don't think you can beat this model. Just my opinion but I would recommend it, if it's possible though I'd always recommend a try before you buy approach, regardless of quality, personal taste will always be a major factor
Thank you, this song was done with One Kit Wonder Metal from GetGood Drums. I use that kit a lot in different ways but this one was just using the stereo out straight to the mixbus with a small amount of parallel compression on the whole kit. Doesn't take much to get it sounding good in the mix.
Thank you, I think I used a set of NYXL 10-80 strings here, although I can't remember for certain, that's what I use most often on this guitar. It hasn't had any set up beyond what was done at the factory, all I've ever done is change the strings haha
Thanks \m/, this was Archetype Nolly for the actual tone and then some of the slate subscription presets I use for the master chain brighten things up a bit too, it's mostly Archetype Nolly though
How is the guitar? i have been in the market for an 8 string and the RGMS8 is the one i plan on getting. i would like to know if there is anything that you dont like about it just so i know if there is anything i may not like about it. thanks.
For me personally I think the guitar is great. Obviously it's subjective when it comes to what works in a guitar but I can't imagine there's a better 8 string in this price range, although to be fair it's the only one I've spent any time with. The multi scale thing took a little bit of getting used to at the extreme ends of the slant but I honestly don't notice it anymore. All in all I think it's an excellent guitar for the price.
Thank you. I've found the pickups to be pretty decent actually, though I've only used it with Neural plugins as I don't own a real amp. Takes a little bit more work than a 6 string to get a tone that works but I think that's more because of the low tuning rather than the pickups.
@@jjrrecording saludos master suena increíblemente brutal..una consulta. Yo tengo un evh 5150 50w + un pedal fortin 33 y la misma guitarra ibanez r8sm.. como deveria setiar más menos los bajos , medios y altos .saludos amigo de un fiel seguidor
@@cesarandresreyesgalvez3695 Gracias por el comentario señor. Estoy usando Google para traducir, así que espero que entiendas esta respuesta. No he usado un amplificador real en mucho tiempo, así que no sé con certeza cómo configurar las cosas sin probarlo en persona. En general, sugeriría tener el amplificador ajustado a las 12 en punto para los agudos y medios y un poco más bajo para los graves. Si está grabando, tal vez ajuste los medios y los graves aún más bajos, realmente desea que la mayoría de las frecuencias graves provengan del bajo y no de la guitarra. Si solo estás tocando solo, entonces agregaría un poco más de graves al tono. En el pedal, comenzaría con el tono en el medio y luego ajustaría al gusto. Además, no tengas la ganancia configurada demasiado alta en el pedal y el amplificador, ya que eso también puede causar un tono turbio. lindo día.
I use the Neural DSP Archetype Nolly amp sim, just one of the presets slightly tweaked and the GGD Cali Oversized cab sim, that's it really, no other processing apart from the mastering chain.
@@guimemer4085 Thanks dude, appreciate it. This one was done with the 'future chug machine' preset. I used the multi band eq to remove some low-end from the lowest 3 bands and turned off the cab then using the 'down with the thickness' preset from cali oversize with the master eq turned on. The nolly cabs sound great too but I thought the cali fit the mix a bit better. In my opinion though a good 'guitar tone' in a mix is just as much about the bass as the guitar, most of the low end should come from the bass, on their own the guitars actually sound quite thin but combined with the bass is what gives it that sound. Hope that helps.
I just use a scarlett 2i2 into logic. This song was done with the Archetype Nolly plugin, future chug machine preset with the cab turned off and used the down with the thickness cab from ggd cali cabs with the master eq on. Just for playing I would leave the low end in there but for recording/mix purposes I remove a few db from the lowest 3 bands of the eq in Archetype Nolly. Hope that helps.
@@jjrrecording Brother, this helps A TON! Honestly, this is my first 8 string and dialing the tone has been tricky for me. this is gonna really simplify it. Thank you so much
I can't even remember the last time I used a real amp haha. Probably because the only one I own is a 20 year old 15 watt Marshall with crackling dials hahaha
Haha thank you for saying so. I actually have 3 or 4 albums worth of material in this style written in rough form, I need to decide what I'm doing with it and get something sorted I know, that part's where I tend to fall short unfortunately, I'm trying to be better about that though
Yeah this is just standard as it ships from the factory, I didn't do any setup even. It feels solid, well made. Obviously every guitar will be different depending on quality control but I really like this guitar, no issues at all.
Was it hard to get a good tone out of this model? It sounds phenomenal, I'm getting frustrated with tone chasing and looking for something else, I'm convinced the EMG's in my Hellraiser Hybrid are just not sounding like I want... I want that same burpy growl you have here 🥲
Thanks very much. I genuinely have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to mixing/finding tones etc so it did take me quite a while to find a tone I was happy with yeah. The main things I've found so far though are that a guitar tone in a mix needs a lot less low end than what sounds good playing alone(especially for 8 string) and that the mix bus can make a huge difference to the overall quality of the tone(for good or bad) In general though I'm pretty happy with this guitar, the pickups are a little muddy in the low end but I think they're actually really good overall when you find a good tone, they can have that growl in the rhythm but also they can scream for leads too, definitely better than I would expect in this price range.
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Honestly this is the first time I’ve heard someone make a song that truly reminds me of meshuggah. Nicely done!
thanks a lot, that's definitely the vibe i was aiming for so i really appreciate that. i've written quite a bit of stuff in this style, ,planning to upload more in the future
atonal clean intro + atonal riffing with filthy high-gain meshuggah type tone in or around f tuning + same octave bass + virtuoso soloing + polymeter between cymbals on quarter notes and everything else synchronised on cyclical patterns creating monster groove = meshuggah type song
@@tfwnoyandere Haha, you definitely nailed the formula there, I've found it to be a very inspiring way to write riffs
Sound like something off nothing
Agreed
Alright this is the best original I've heard on a review and I'm researching the hell out of this guitar.
Thank you, I appreciate that. As far as the guitar, I think it's great. I haven't played any other 8's so I couldn't give a comparison but it's well built, plays nicely, for me it's an absolute bargain for the price.
@@jjrrecording awesome dude. I live in Australia where it costs more than I was used to in the U.S. so I'm wanting to make sure I spend wisely. I'm checking one out in just a few days. This video gives me a lot of confidence in its tone and playability. Hell of an arrangement.
@@nickborrrego It's always a good idea to play before you buy if possible for sure. I bought mine online without trying it because the nearest store to me is about 250 miles so wasn't practical to try one first. Ibanez are generally very reliable for quality in my experience so far though so I wasn't worried, good luck with yours and thanks again.
@@jjrrecording hey dude just wanted to mention I've put it on a payment plan at my local shop. Luckily I live a lot closer to mine than you did to hours. It's been nice to pick up a guitar and have less of an idea of how to use these lower strings.
@@nickborrrego That's awesome dude, thanks for the update. I hope you have a lot of fun getting to grips with it, I certainly did with mine. Even now it still throws me off from time to time haha
Holy Fredrick Thordendal! This is great!
Haha, thanks very much
Came to check out the guitar. Stayed for the baller playing and writing.
Earned yourself another sub today.
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it \m/
You got me with the first riff already. Masterpiece
Thanks very much
Almost 14 years ago, my mom bought me an Ibanez RG321MH for my birthday, it was my first guitar.
It looks identical to this one, identical layout with the knobs and 5 way switch (without checking it, I already know it's that ibanez 5 way switch they put on ALL their guitars with double humbuckers lmao). I still have that guitar, plays perfectly, never gave me a reason to change it for anything else. And it was like 500 bucks at the time.
Now this RGMS8 seems to be the exact same deal but with 8 strings and multiscale, it's also cheap as hell and I already know you're gonna be playing that thing for the next decade at least.
Ibanez just knows how to make no-nonsense budget guitars.
They really do, I also have some pretty expensive Ibanez guitars and although the build quality is higher the main difference is just more expensive components, the reliability/playability is basically the same on the cheaper models in my experience so far, love them all.
This absolutely slaps mate wow, the groove is delicious. Fantastic mix too, keep it up chief
Thanks very much dude, I appreciate it
Seen your video come up and I was like, yes ya beauty a new vid.
Haha, thanks dude, I hope you're doing well
Very nice riffs
Thanks very much
Just bought this exact guitar. It arrives on Friday. Your video is the reason I ended choosing it over another Jackson 🤘🏻
That's awesome, I hope you enjoy it, I certainly love mine. Thanks for the comment \m/
Amazing riffs, the sound is soooo groovy!
Thanks very much, I appreciate it
for some reason this gives me the urge to dance to this kind of tune.
Haha, why not? if you feel like it, go for it \m/
Sounds great in the mix. Love my RG so much
Thanks very much and yeah, they're great guitars.
Just ordered mine should be here soon enough, can't wait to see how an 8 string plays, been waiting forever to make this purchase and this was that one guitar I've had my eyes on awhile. Nice fucking demo my guy! 🤘💪🔥
Thank you, and congratulations on your purchase, I love this guitar, took me a while to get used to it, but it's well worth it, enjoy it dude \m/
I bought the exact same guitar 2 years ago and I love it. Sick riff by the way dude
Thanks man, yeah it's a great guitar, love mine too.
Wow I didn't even know 8 string guitars were a thing 😅
Yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, a lot of fun though. I also have a couple of 7 string guitars. You can get 9 and 10 string guitars as well but 8 is as far as I go haha
Such a nice and clean tone on that 8 wish I had one now!!!
Thank you, it took a bit of work to find a tone I liked that also worked in the mix, but it's a lot of fun to play though.
I was just here to check a guitar demo, but now it's like the third time I listen this tack, headbanging like I was in front of Meshuggah! Nice job!
Thanks very much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it
This sounds soo good, man
Thank you
Sounds really good! Loved it.
Thanks very much
"Which Meshuggah song is this?!" I was wondering for 2 minutes until I read some comments. Great song !
Haha, I must be doing something right then, glad you liked it, thanks
well, that was an awesome demo, gj
Thank you
Been catching up and That Solo Was FIRE 🔥
Haha, thanks very much. I've always been very self-critical of my playing in general and my lead playing in particular so I really appreciate that.
Amazing work. We want more!!!
Thanks very much, I'm glad you liked it
Sounds great bro! Greetings from Brazil.
Thanks very much dude, greetings from Scotland
@@jjrrecording im a Brazilian living in Scotland! Lol 😂
@@djent2689 Haha small world, that's cool. Where in scotland do you stay? I'm up on the north coast
@@jjrrecording Edinburgh
@@djent2689 Cool man, I'm from there originally
pretty sick sound
Thank you
I thought this was a cover of something initially, this shit is GOOD
Thanks dude, I really enjoyed writing this one
This is really incredible. Great work
Thank you very much
I have one of these and I don't play it much because it is a different type feel
I can see that, it took me quite a while to get comfortable with it, even now it throws me off sometimes, I really enjoy it though
Solid! I’m digging that sound
Thanks
Very very very nice song you wrote.very meshuggy 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks very much, I appreciate the comparison, they are a big influence on how I write for the 8 string
catch 33 vibes holey
Thanks
@@jjrrecordingwelcome. really hard to recrate something like that especially with how beloved and picked apart meshuggahs music is
@@gestaltzerfaII Yeah, they are an incredible band for sure and it's a style of music I love writing. I think it helps to focus on writing something that sounds cool/appeals to your own personal taste rather than try to mimic something specific, I find that creates a more genuine feel/vibe to the music. At least, that's the hope anyway haha
Sounds awesome dude
Thanks very much
The Meshuggah school of riffing!
Might as well learn from the best haha
Awesome man
Thanks very much
Has some Meshuggah init, really nice dude! Did you record a bass for this too or is it programmed?
Thanks very much, I'm a big fan of Meshuggah so I really appreciate that. I did record the bass for it too yeah, just a cheap Ibanez going through the Neural Parallax plug-in.
@@jjrrecording nice! The bass actually sounds pretty good and the guitar tone is awesome! Anyways man, keep it up, you earned a sub! ;)
@@Thepaininside Thank you very much, that means a lot \m/
Sounds great man, can I ask whats the tuning you are using in this guitar?
Thanks very much, it's a half step down from standard so from low to high it's F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb bb eb. I like the extra depth the half step down gives the sound.
Sounds good
Thanks
oh my god this sound absolutly MEAN.
this is fucking heavy. Pure meshuggah's style prog.
Thanks very much, I love Meshuggah so I really appreciate that \m/
Man this is incredibly nice! Could I ask what you used for the bass? Plugin or real recorded bass?
Thanks dude, sure thing, I played in the bass using a cheap Ibanez 5 string through the Neural DSP Parallax plugin, makes it really easy to get a solid bass tone going.
Im here cause my son wants an 8 string. You guys like this one? P. S. I took him to the Messhuggah concert in Cincy, so I know a lil something about this.
I love this guitar yeah. If price isn't an issue, there are definitely better guitars and in particular, pickups but in the price range I don't think you can beat this model. Just my opinion but I would recommend it, if it's possible though I'd always recommend a try before you buy approach, regardless of quality, personal taste will always be a major factor
@@jjrrecordingthank you very much.
@@johndaugherty4127 You're welcome
Damn, it sounds pretty nice even with stock pickups
Thanks, yeah I've found them to be pretty decent pickups
I’m saving up for tht guitar 🤘
Awesome, I really love mine
🤘
What do you use for drums? I am trying to find a good kit sound for ableton. Sounds sick!
Thank you, this song was done with One Kit Wonder Metal from GetGood Drums. I use that kit a lot in different ways but this one was just using the stereo out straight to the mixbus with a small amount of parallel compression on the whole kit. Doesn't take much to get it sounding good in the mix.
Some nice riffage there.
Thank you
Fantastic!What brand and gauge strings.Was your guitar Plek machine service?
Thank you, I think I used a set of NYXL 10-80 strings here, although I can't remember for certain, that's what I use most often on this guitar. It hasn't had any set up beyond what was done at the factory, all I've ever done is change the strings haha
What did you use for your tone? Literally sounds exactly like meshuggah 🤘🏻
Thanks \m/, this was Archetype Nolly for the actual tone and then some of the slate subscription presets I use for the master chain brighten things up a bit too, it's mostly Archetype Nolly though
what notes did you tune the 7th and 8th strings to? thanks
I think this was a half step down from standard so the lowest string would be F and the 7th string would be Bb and just Eb standard from there
Tasty
Thank you
How is the guitar? i have been in the market for an 8 string and the RGMS8 is the one i plan on getting. i would like to know if there is anything that you dont like about it just so i know if there is anything i may not like about it. thanks.
For me personally I think the guitar is great. Obviously it's subjective when it comes to what works in a guitar but I can't imagine there's a better 8 string in this price range, although to be fair it's the only one I've spent any time with. The multi scale thing took a little bit of getting used to at the extreme ends of the slant but I honestly don't notice it anymore. All in all I think it's an excellent guitar for the price.
@@jjrrecording Okay, thank you for the feedback, that helps a bunch. 👍
sounds sick. is it hard to get right tone with those stock pickups?
Thank you. I've found the pickups to be pretty decent actually, though I've only used it with Neural plugins as I don't own a real amp. Takes a little bit more work than a 6 string to get a tone that works but I think that's more because of the low tuning rather than the pickups.
@@jjrrecording thanks. Gonna order this model some day
@@kuben1k748 Cool man, everyone will have their own opinion on a specific guitar but that aside, I would definitely recommend this one
@@jjrrecording saludos master suena increíblemente brutal..una consulta. Yo tengo un evh 5150 50w + un pedal fortin 33 y la misma guitarra ibanez r8sm.. como deveria setiar más menos los bajos , medios y altos .saludos amigo de un fiel seguidor
@@cesarandresreyesgalvez3695 Gracias por el comentario señor. Estoy usando Google para traducir, así que espero que entiendas esta respuesta. No he usado un amplificador real en mucho tiempo, así que no sé con certeza cómo configurar las cosas sin probarlo en persona. En general, sugeriría tener el amplificador ajustado a las 12 en punto para los agudos y medios y un poco más bajo para los graves. Si está grabando, tal vez ajuste los medios y los graves aún más bajos, realmente desea que la mayoría de las frecuencias graves provengan del bajo y no de la guitarra. Si solo estás tocando solo, entonces agregaría un poco más de graves al tono. En el pedal, comenzaría con el tono en el medio y luego ajustaría al gusto. Además, no tengas la ganancia configurada demasiado alta en el pedal y el amplificador, ya que eso también puede causar un tono turbio. lindo día.
What amp(s) and pedals are you using?
I use the Neural DSP Archetype Nolly amp sim, just one of the presets slightly tweaked and the GGD Cali Oversized cab sim, that's it really, no other processing apart from the mastering chain.
@@jjrrecording Hey man! Which preset is it exactly? Please name it! Sounds brutal!
@@guimemer4085 Thanks dude, appreciate it. This one was done with the 'future chug machine' preset. I used the multi band eq to remove some low-end from the lowest 3 bands and turned off the cab then using the 'down with the thickness' preset from cali oversize with the master eq turned on. The nolly cabs sound great too but I thought the cali fit the mix a bit better. In my opinion though a good 'guitar tone' in a mix is just as much about the bass as the guitar, most of the low end should come from the bass, on their own the guitars actually sound quite thin but combined with the bass is what gives it that sound. Hope that helps.
@@jjrrecording Thanks yo!
what the scale of this guitar? 27?
Just checked the Ibanez website to make sure but yeah basically, it's 27.26" on the lowest string and 25.5" on the highest string.
for all us dudes with the same guitar pls share that signal chain info
I just use a scarlett 2i2 into logic. This song was done with the Archetype Nolly plugin, future chug machine preset with the cab turned off and used the down with the thickness cab from ggd cali cabs with the master eq on. Just for playing I would leave the low end in there but for recording/mix purposes I remove a few db from the lowest 3 bands of the eq in Archetype Nolly. Hope that helps.
@@jjrrecording Brother, this helps A TON! Honestly, this is my first 8 string and dialing the tone has been tricky for me. this is gonna really simplify it. Thank you so much
@@psyghtseer No problem dude, This is my first 8 string too and it took me quite a while to find a tone that worked in a mix so glad I could help.
I blame my tiny seven year old amp for not producing a sound as clean as that
I can't even remember the last time I used a real amp haha. Probably because the only one I own is a 20 year old 15 watt Marshall with crackling dials hahaha
@@jjrrecording ah! That's how it always sounds so good. I'll need to get my hands on that kinda gear soon
@@hallowedknightyt1892 Hahaha, best of gear for sure
Dude youve got to get into a studio and record more material!
Haha thank you for saying so. I actually have 3 or 4 albums worth of material in this style written in rough form, I need to decide what I'm doing with it and get something sorted I know, that part's where I tend to fall short unfortunately, I'm trying to be better about that though
Are these the stock pick ups and does the guitar feel cheap or wobbly
Yeah this is just standard as it ships from the factory, I didn't do any setup even. It feels solid, well made. Obviously every guitar will be different depending on quality control but I really like this guitar, no issues at all.
@@jjrrecording thank you , amazing playing!
@@djent2689 Thanks very much
BEEFY STUFF
Thanks
Trying an 8 string guitar. Weird, it sounds produced
It's one of the first songs I recorded when I got the 8 string. There's some processing on the master bus if that's what you mean
Was it hard to get a good tone out of this model? It sounds phenomenal, I'm getting frustrated with tone chasing and looking for something else, I'm convinced the EMG's in my Hellraiser Hybrid are just not sounding like I want... I want that same burpy growl you have here 🥲
Thanks very much. I genuinely have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to mixing/finding tones etc so it did take me quite a while to find a tone I was happy with yeah. The main things I've found so far though are that a guitar tone in a mix needs a lot less low end than what sounds good playing alone(especially for 8 string) and that the mix bus can make a huge difference to the overall quality of the tone(for good or bad) In general though I'm pretty happy with this guitar, the pickups are a little muddy in the low end but I think they're actually really good overall when you find a good tone, they can have that growl in the rhythm but also they can scream for leads too, definitely better than I would expect in this price range.