STEPH CURRY Was ALWAYS BETTER Than KEVIN DURANT Over These Years
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For those who actually followed the warriors from 2017-2019 it was obvious that steph curry was more valuable to the warriors. When Durant was out and it was just Curry and the warriors, they would continue winning at the same pace as the warriors wirh Kd. Case in point : KD got injured for 20 games in 2016-17. The warriors went 16-4 in those 20 games including a 13 game win streak without him. in 2017-18 this time Curry was the one that got injured and he was out for 31 games. The warriors went 18-13 in those games without him. 2018-19 was the season that proved it, Curry injured for 11 games Warriosr go 5-6 with Kd playing in all of those games, he was scoring big but he just doesnt have the same winning impact as curry does. And then in the playoffs when KD got injured, the warriors beat the rockets in game 6 at home and then SWEPT a 3rd seeded Portland team without him in which Curry had the greatest scoring series in a sweep ever.
Don’t leave out the Toronto series when they were begging KD to play bc they were down 3-1.
@@2cents250 and do you think Kd wouldve done any better if he was the one that was healthy and Curry was injured. No way in hell the warriors are sweeping the blazers if curry was the one that was out and kd was playing., the blazers wouldve probably beaten them.
In Games Steph Played Without KD: Warriors Were 35-8
In Games KD Played Without Steph: Warriors Were 28-18.
They Went On A 15 Game Winning Streak At One Point Without KD In 2017…
Ty Lue Said That Steph Was Who They Gameplanned For 1st In The Finals… Last Week Paul George Just Said On His Podcast That Steph Is Harder To Guard/Gameplan For KD Because His Game Is So Complex & His Style Makes Everyone Else Better, While KD’s Style Just Gets Himself Buckets
Plus, Steph Won 2 Rings Without KD. KD Ain’t Got Shit Without Steph… What More Evidence Do U Need?
The 3 playoff runs where KD outplayed Steph
You’re not adding any real context of those without KD or steph games. How many games without KD did everybody else play? Same question with Steph. Also, when in the season did both guys miss time? All these things matter than just plastering the record
@pandabear1576 roughly 80 games were played with curry and NO kd. 80% win rate. Roughly 80 games were played with KD and no curry. Roughly 54% win rate.
@@NothingElseMattersJMbecause teams game plan was to shut down curry as much as possible
@GalileoGalilei1642 kd was open. Like I can outrun Usain Bolt if he was carrying a 100 lb backpack. Doesn't make me the faster, better runner 😂
People seem to forget that if harrison barnes doesn’t shoot 5-31 with no one guarding him the last 3 games of the finals against Cleveland, warriors win easily!
The amount of gravity and attention required to stop steph will give nba caliber players the best opportunity they will ever have!
The warriors didn’t need Durant, they needed a guy in place of Harrison Barnes who could shoot better than 5-31 with no one guarding them!
Hypothetical ass
So instead of KD they could have had 2 players instead and had the same result. That’s what I have always said
@@starfalcon2220 exactly. People forget that in games 5-7 against Cleveland, harrison Barnes shot 5-31 with no on guarding him! He was in a contract year and broke down mentally! If he shoots 12-31 on wide open shots the warriors win easily! You replace that guy with KD essentially! If you have to do all that to stop steph curry, then it is impossible to stop them if a guy like KD is either ignored or not the focus of the defense
Thank you for pointing this out. I swear casuals box score watch the tape shows barnes was wide open which allowed lebron to play free safety
If kyrie and love weren’t hurt Cavs win in 15 what’s your point?
I also thought it was the suspension or bogut getting hurt or the shot. Now it barns?
All I know is Steph has titles without Kd and also the warriors won more games without kd in the lineup than without steph
Steph was more impactful and more valuable to the Warriors than KD, no doubt about that. Only street ball mentality dudes think KD is the greater player because he has more skills and is a better scorer in terms of iso. KD was scoring on the Cavs in 2017 and 2018 because they had absolutely no defenders for him at all. The Cavs focused on Curry so much more to the point they were letting KD go for open dunks just so they wouldn't have to leave Steph and Klay open. Legit, JR as the last line of defense ran out to Curry instead of staying in front of a driving KD who got a breakaway dunk. LeBron's defense on KD was non-existent and pitiful, that was so embarrassing to watch. LeBron was legit scared to guard KD, dude was slippin and fallin out there 💀
Yea what they’re trying to say is that the GSW team was built around Steph and was a ball movement team and Steph had teammates with specific strengths that complimented Stephs specific strengths. and KD was more of an isolation player so it would make sense that Curry would be more impactful to that team. I think they’re saying if you were to put them on a team that was built around KDs ability and had players that more complimented KD then you would see KD as the more impactful player. I don’t really agree with this I think curry is just overall a better player, but I can understand and I would agree with the point that the main reason why we can easily say that hat curry was more valuable to that team was because it was built around him with player that benefited his strengths and the system relied on him. So I understand why KD would win less games when Steph didn’t play compared to how many games Steph won with KD out. If you put them on like a neutral team it would probably be closer and harder to say who’s more impactful to the team.
@@teal2913 The OKC Thunder put Russ, Harden, Ibaka, Martin, a series of good wing defenders around KD.... no titles. KD had Kyrie in 2022 against Celtics, got swept. KD is a great solo force that can get teams deep into the playoffs with his great individual scoring performances, but he doesn't amplify his teammates anywhere near the level of Steph Curry. A system ran around KD's abilities doesn't empower Draymond and Klay like Curry does. We saw when KD went down against Houston in 2019, Steph was still able to turn it on and beat the Rockets two games in a row to win the series. The Warriors in the 2018-19 season legit played better without KD because their roles were more defined without him. The Warriors would stop moving around and be memorized by KD's iso ability, KD would get his buckets, but they would lose still because the rest of them were disengaged. When Steph had it going and everyone was playing off his hot scoring games, the Warriors were at their best. That was the true impact difference between the two.
None of that matters in the argument. No one asked what they did without each other.
@@QuestionEverything562 nobody winning a ring with Russ ask the lakers
steph was just as effecient as kd a foot shorter and his gravity made kd be able to play one on one every game for 3 years
KD was a 50/40/90 player before he played with Steph and has averaged 50% off FG for a decade.
@@2cents250
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant never been best player in NBA
@@2cents250 also curry but curry 40-50-90 got him 2 rings kd 40-50-90 got him 0 rings
@@worlstar8163 rings are a team accomplishment. KD averages more for playoffs and career scoring than Curry.
@@2cents250 curry 2 rings 1 fmvp kd 0 rings 0 fmvp
I draft curry I win 4 championships. I draft KD I win 0 championships and KD goes joins the team we lose too. And help them win 2 rings 😭😭.
Curry has always been better and plays basketball better
FACTSSS
If KD had klay and Draymond his whole career he would have like 5 rings
@@LA_Luka77 klay and Desmond lmfao 🤣 boy had curry kyire harden twice!! Now co3 and d book wtf and I can go and go ain’t draymond a bum? Wtf klay and dray that’s nothing compared to the loads of help kd had wtf lmfao 🤣
@@Denverfan420 to disrespect klay and dray is wild . Kyrie kill every team he go too look at the Mavs 😂😂😂 stfu you lost
@@LA_Luka77let’s stop pretending like KD hasn’t had more help than anyone in history and still got less rings than steph
Steph was doubled team more than kd
Lue outright admitted they doubled Curry in both Finals.
thas because theres no point to double teaming KD lol
@@alxfonso4924 makes no sense lol
@@alxfonso4924 No cause Curry was always the most dangerous GS player. KD was doubled last year against Celtics and was completely thrown off
@@prettyteeth not doubled. Triple-teamed. No superstar player is doing well, if a whole team commits to you defensively. Steph had shooters and stars around him when he waxed Boston, not taking anything away from Steph. Boston couldn’t double Steph because they would get shot out the arena😮💨 But in the 2022 playoffs, KD had an injured team, with the worst coach in NBA history😂
LOW cooked himself ever saying Kobe wouldn't be the better playing on the Suns when he was at his absolute peak. At least Marz came correct.
I don't care if Kobe gets 5 shots a game, there's no scenario in which Steve Nash could ever be better than Prime Kobe Bryant, and I'm not even a huge Kobe fan
Be a kobe fan
at the end of the day, kd going to the warriors did nothing but help steph’s legacy while ruining his own.
It didn't help legacy he still has 1 finals MVP while KD got 2 lol he clears Steph
@@LA_Luka77 KD isn’t better then Steph all time, he DEFINITELY doesn’t clear him. You’re wildin.
@@LA_Luka77who has more MVPs? who’s got more rings without the other? stop it
@@deanoss777 Steph needed KD to beat bron in the finals bro
@@talkoftheculture1504 they didnt "need" anything, everyone (except draymond) got better on that warriors team as time went on, if it was a 7 game series with that 2016 team, that 2017 team minus KD would murder the cavs, stop narrative pushing.
There’s no way u thought this during 2017-2019 years
People are mixing up closer with best player best when I watch at that time Steph enhanced kd game by making It so he always has a one on one matchup
@@kyonmurphy1120 KD was a MVP and 50/40/90 player and 4 time scoring champ before Steph. He literally has been a prolific scorer before during and after Steph.
@@2cents250 dat nigga is sick💀 Steph never enhanced KD’s game at all. These clowns don’t know ball😂
@@2cents250 Steph won two mvps without kd. Too I'm not saying he made kd but he definitely enhanced/shine kd ability to get a bucket in the iso especially when u can't help
@@kyonmurphy1120 the fact that they beat the Cavs back to back and that’s the only time they ever won back to back chips proves KD made them better as well. Then they lost to Toronto. It was mutually beneficial. And let’s not pretend that KD didn’t offer Steph spacing. Were they running a box and 1 when KD was on the floor with Steph? No. The difference is KD has an easier time shooting over multiple players than Steph and less reliant on screens plus he is a better defender. They didn’t just add any scorer…. The warriors added a guy that is considered one of the best scorers of all time after MJ. He didn’t win 2 FMVPS next to Steph for nothing. He was an all around better player. Ppl for Steph was missing wide open layups and 3s sometimes that is how he lost the FMVP although he shot more than Kevin Durant.
KD just made Draymond less impactful on the offensive end, and I think Draymond lost his condfidence on the offensive end not being needed those three years.
Nah
You might be right considering dray hasn’t scored 30+ since game 7 of the 2016 finals
Yea it’s KD’s fault Draymond can’t shoot , create or finish lol.
@@NothingElseMattersJM they added a player that is ball dominant and green get the ball less, understand?
Does Low not realize he was proving dudes point the first half of this video with his response to the kobe/suns hypothetical? I also think steph > kd, but he was doing himself no favors with how he answered that question lol
Low lowkey been taking L’s since bullying Gerald lol
I’d say it’s KD they gas up Curry playmaking like he’s John Stockton averaging 11 assists. Here’s some of the stats from 16-19 for KD and Steph. KD averaged 25.8 PTS, 7.1TRB, 5.4AST, 1.5BLK. Curry averaged 26.3PTS, 4.9TRB, 6.0AST, 1.6STL. The assist differential is 0.6 yet Curry is just so much better at playmaking than KD. I give playmaking to Steph but not by much especially since Draymond facilities the offense as well. Also a PG is normally going to assist more while a SF/PF focuses on rebounds.
@@vishbegaminu don’t know wat playmaking is lol
@@vishbegamin stop
@@Hakeemthabeen888 If play making isn't assist then what is it?
Steph was the best player doc rivers even said he doubled Steph it’s okk man 😂😂
Best player yet KD had both the finals MVPs 😂😂😂😂
@@LA_Luka77 because he benefits from the gameplan of tyronn lue (coach of CAVS 2016-18) which is to trap curry and let KD cook lol
So Steph's was the best player but Kobe wasn't 😂😂😂
@@LA_Luka77 KD couldn’t be double teamed because of curry and klay. Teams rather let KD iso than let Curry and Klay catch fire from 3.
How was Steph the best player, the question was BETWEEN 2017-2020. So how was Steph better than KD? Because I do agree Steph is the better player and has the better career. But I think we using recency biased based on 2022 Finals lol
Tyron Lue said their defense was focused on stopping steph, not KD!
Coaching a bottom 10 defense
How are 2 people that value portability gonna be the same ones saying they don't like hypotheticals?
The disrespect for KD around here is ridiculous.
I’m sick of it. They would dare say this bullshit in 2017-2019, or even the 2021 playoffs (which curry didn’t even make). If the said Curry was better than KD during those times, they basketball card would be revoked💀😂
It’s sad
@@famousxji1852 KD is a better floor raiser meaning he can take trash teams to the playoffs cuz he has better ability all around than Curry or did before. Curry is the best ceiling raiser ever and KD couldn’t be doubled on the warriors cuz he had the best spacing in the league. Basically got to go 1v1 in the midrange every possession and attack weak corner closeouts.
@@Nuthinnull So why didn’t Steph play better against the rockets switch heavy defense ? Why was KD still outplaying him then ? Why did KD outplay Steph in virtually every playoff series they player together ?
KD is a much better player then Curry. Curry have a system that work perfectly. Having Klay and Draymond helps curry tremendously
this guy said that Kobe would just sit in the corner while Steve Nash handle the ball 😂😂😂
Like Joe Johnson 🤣🤣🤣
@@Mercurial. ikr joe Johnson 😂
That's crazy disrespectful to
Kobe bean Bryant to even think Kobe will let Nash just dribble the ball like that and go stand in the corner nobody that has watched Kobe believes that will happen 🤣
People seem to forget that Steph is the system. Steph would be stepth on every single team.
They literally played each other as the best player on their own teams and Steph won. What are we doing?
were debating who the better player is,i dont know what youre doing
That wasn’t a 1 on 1 game lol. We all know what would happen if KD and Steph played 1 on 1
Steph averaged more ppg those 3 years. While being double and triple teamed. And Steph was miles better of a playmaker.
Except in the playoffs KD averaged more points on better efficiency, while playing better defense , and grabbing more boards in all 3 playoff runs. Also, the rockets played Steph 1 on 1 and he still struggled
@@NothingElseMattersJM you're lying. Steph averaged 25ppg, with more rebounds, assists, steals and the same amount of blocks than KD in the Rockets series.
@@remnant8898 My comment says “in all 3 playoff runs”…..Thought you caught me slipping huh ? lol
@@remnant8898 And yes Curry did struggle in the 2019 rockets series. That’s the greatest shooter of all time shooting 28% 3pt and 40% from the field.
@@NothingElseMattersJM Context matters. Curry struggled in for most of that "SEMI-Finals matchup, then went on to cook the Rockets in the second half of a must win game 5, then dropped 33 in the second half of game 6. Its how you finish that matters, and he dominated the most important part of that series.
All I know is, when palms got sweaty and clutch buckets were needed, KD had the ball in his hands.
Go back to game 7 vs. the Rockets...steph and kd hit clutch shot after shot in the 4th quarter
That was the only time Steph was clutch in that season. They needed KD to beat those Rockets badly
@JixRoc well explain the following season when Cp3 and Harden was healthy and Kd got hurt. Who was clutch in game 5 then in game 6 to send a healthy rockets squad home on their home court
Facts
@@famousxji1852 explain 2019 then? When we beat them and swept blazers
Steph it’s a better player. Period!!!
He's not
Durrant a better scorer and defender 😂😂😂😂
@@godblk4264
Kevin Durant 0 all defensive teams to his name last I checked and hes 6'11😂
@@30MF_
Durant 0 all defensive teams to his name and name player hes locked down I'll wait
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant anyday
Now hold this L
@@jeffblake2855 still a better scorer and defender u said a whole lot of num bro the warriors were by far better team then the thunder they Litch had Westbrook his game is bad in the postseason wat happened 2019
The Warriors system is predicated on every member of the big 3. Without Draymond facilitating it doesn’t work, without Klay drawing the attention he does as probably the best catch and shoot 3pt shooter of all time it doesn’t work, you cannot solely credit Steph for that offense.
That offense wasn’t doing that with dray leading at all so stop it what happen when Steph went down for that season??? Steph still took the wArrious to the play in and won a scoring title that year made him better
They don’t realize this
KD can't elevant offenses to the level that Curry can.
KD has done that with BRK they were just riddled with injury
@@famousxji1852 When they had the big three they were IMO by far the best offense but KD also had Harden and Kyrie. On an individual basis, KD can't replicate what Steph does offensively because of playmaking and GOAT off-ball ability.
There was a reason Ty Lue was more focused on guarding Steph than KD.
@@farhan2394-r7w bro, did you not understand that BRK was riddled with injury🤦🏾♂️ you can’t control that😂
@@famousxji1852 Yes and I admitted they were the best, this has nothing to do with team success.
What I am claiming is that on an individual level Steph impacts offense more than KD does.
@@farhan2394-r7w I bet KD would have made the playoffs in 2020 and 2021 with the same roster Steph had. Brooklyn went from a #1 seed in the East to a playin team. Steph team was winning games without him.
Steph beat lebron almost twice without kd, kd had his chance in 2012 to prove he could beat lebron, and he didn’t. Kd needed steph and the warriors, where as the warriors won in 2015 and went up 3-1 in 2016. The cavs needed EVERYTHING to go right in 2016.
Steph beat bron? U mean when love and Irving were injured in 2015?😂😂😂
@@jasonmoukala8909 injures are apart of the game lmfao stop cryi ng
@@AbdiSamad-vh9in I’m not crying. Just providing context
If kD didn’t hit those 2 shots in back to back years there would be an arguement here but the fact of the matter is those finals games were closer than we thought they’d be and when the lights were shining the brightest kD stepped up and put the cavs away. Not saying steph couldn’t have done the same but they might’ve not been in a close game situation without kD being there
Finals games weren't really that close, a couple games were close maybe, but overall a 5 game series and a sweep isn't considered close.
@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast yea when you look at the end result but during the finals the Cavs were a couple of stops away from making it 3-2 which would put pressure on the warriors to not let a repeat of 2016 happen again but Durant was there to diffuse the tension
The suns would definitely reconstruct the system to fit Kobe’s game. I hate the way low think he knows wat these coaches are going to do. Like bro said they are going to change certain thing for Kobe
My thoughs on the situation is that KD was the better individual basketball player, but Steph was more important, dangerous and his impact on winning was higher than KD. There's a great video from thinking basketball that showed that KD would get easy cuts to the basket because teams were so focused on trying to contain Steph. Like KD all around was really good, but Steph was so great at what he does, that it just broke all the rules. A good comparison I think is Wilt and Bill Russel. Wilt had all the crazy stats, and on paper was the better player, but Bill Russel's style of play was better for winning
Perfect analysis
Where was Steph’s dangerous impact in those rockets series when they played him 1 on 1? The “gravity” excuse is getting tiresome 🥱
@@NothingElseMattersJMyou mean the series where he averaged a combined 28/6/6 ? I think he did pretty well.
From this video, I'm realizing the difference between KD and Steph. KD's game pulls two players towards him, Steph's game makes everyone play man to man. I think that KD is the better individual player because his presence automatically pulls two players or changes the defensive scheme. Steph makes teams play man to man, which is a very strong ability paired with KD's game bringing two players towards him. Steph allows KD to not get double teamed, but the real power comes from KD bringing a double team to begin with, making him individually better. Steph is very important for the system to work.
KD had Westbrook, Harden.. 2 mvp talents with Ibaka.. Klay Thomas is an all star but no where near prime Westbrook and Harden. Draymond gets called trash all the time... Curry > KD
Harden was a 6th man when he was with OKC and that Miami series showed he wasn’t a damn mvp caliber player at that time. Same harden was injured in Brooklyn. What has Westbrook done with anyone else? Paul George, Bradley Beal, Melo, harden, Lebron?
Put Westbrook with curry and I bet they don’t win a chip. Guy is #3 on the list for all time turnovers.
They keep saying steph is lucky.
And this man kd keep switching teams, to chase easy rings.
Ppl can be stupid.
harden twice ,russ ibaka irving booker cp3 curry klay draymond .
How many star teammates do u need？
Kd is the most lucky guy in history.
Lol
Harden was already dominate in that west conference journey,in okc.
That's why houston gave him a max next year.
He was already a allstar lever player.
And that's the big reason okc entering the final that year
@@dragondicktaj3784 what did he do in the finals? 12 ppg off 37% shooting. He wasn’t a mvp level player. KD was the biggest impact and far better player. He continues to be post Achilles injury. That was obvious when harden was in Brooklyn with KD.
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant anyday
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
So why did KD outplay him while they were on the same team ?
I look at this simple . Remove Steph from golden state and place KD there around dray and Klay . The Warriors will not win . Steph just proved he was the best player on that team all along with his last chip . He just took a backseat to KD while KD was there . That doesn’t mean he was better than Steph . Steph allowed KD to eat like no other . Thats what a great teammate will do if he has great players around him .
The ppl saying Steph is better are clearly idiots & I love both those guys
They have Steph throat. Shout-out to LVZ for coining that.
how am i an idiot?
Basketball is not only one on one skill. If Stephen stand there always need double team even without ball. Then warriors is always 4 vs 3. Even kd get more score, but Stephen is still more impactful. Because he break the balance on the court
What about the steph and KD thing has ever been replicated. Marz said if you are the most impactful you're the best player, but can he name another team in history where that applies the way it does for KD and steph with the warriors? Marz just be acting smart.
Here we go with Dub and he's just speaking to hear himself talk and trying to explain what others are saying.
I think Steph impact made him better , but let’s not act like KD ain’t been striking fear in every team heart since 2017.
Lol let’s stop
No he hasn't
So in Dubs head going from the favorite to the prohibited favorite is a huge jump
KD was CLEARLY the best player on the Warriors.
The players say it, heck even GSW key players said it out of their own mouth.
Now I’m suppose to believe some guys on RUclips know more about who was the better player more than the teammates that played with them both.
bro no one in the golden state ever said that kd was better than steph as a player lmaoo even draymond hate that durant fraud stop glazing that dude lmao kd litterally curry litterally was better than kd i mean u remember than game from 2016 right and kd has help of prime russ and harden so shut up lmao this not even an argument
They didn't say that shit nigga lmfaoooooo
9:03 "Iso Joey." That would've been a hard name
I don't think people got what LOW was saying. If you put Kobe in Mike dantonis system then its not his system. When you think of the 7 seconds or less Suns that wasn't Kobe style of play. Mile even coached Kobe from 2012 to 2014 and guess what he started using his system and guess what he dropped it because the system didn't work hmmmmm I wonder why
Yep, Kobe scrapped Dantoni's 7 secs or less offensive system and made Nash just a spotup shooter. Kobe was only maximized through the greatest offensive system ever, the triangle system. That was the only system that could make him share the ball and trust his teammates, and even then he rebelled against it early on after winning titles using it. Kobe never could play with ball dominant PGs, he was never used to that. That's why spot up shooting PGs were the most ideal teammates for Kobe like a Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Lindsey Hunter, Tyron Lue, and even Smush Parker. They were relegated to just shooting the ball and sometimes initiating the offense.
@@QuestionEverything562 The same could be said about Michael Jordan but I digress..
@@QuestionEverything562 The Lakers were a top 10 offense in 2012-13 and a top 5 offense with Nash and Kobe on the floor…
@@NothingElseMattersJM So? Was that good enough? Shouldn't they have been even better with Kobe, Nash, D-12, and Gasol within offensive guru Mike Dantoni's up tempo offense? Dantoni's offense is almost always top 5 when actually fully utilized and comprehended. Kobe didn't want to play up tempo and he also had no patience for any offense outside of the Triangle Offense at that advanced age. He wanted half court sets where he could be the primary playmaker, Nash couldn't be fully utilized in the way Dantoni wanted. Kobe wanted Dantoni there, let's not forget he also had Mike Brown's Princeton offense that same season, and he didn't care for that either. Go look up that season, is that a typical Dantoni ran offense? No, because old schooled ball stoppers like Kobe and Melo liked a slower pace. This was 34 yr old Kobe, he was used to a certain offense for like 13 years of his career, he felt he had no time playing out these new offensive schemes and losing.
Now you can come up with Nash was old and hobbled, D-12 wasn't fully healthy, and Gasol was hurt excuses, but I'm just telling you from how I saw that team execute as a team when they had their best horses. It was a team that never meshed together offensively. I am not here to blame Kobe for hijacking the offense because it seemed like he had to do it just to get his team into the playoffs, I am just simply saying it was an offense helmed by Kobe more so than any of his coaches that season. New head coach Dantoni was powerless against a Lakers legend.
@@marlowstanfield6815 But did MJ ever have a great offensive guru PG like a Steve Nash at any point? He didn't, but I also think that MJ wouldn't want a John Stocktonesque or Steve Nashesque ball dominant PG anyway. The triangle system best utilized his own scoring and passing, that was an equal ball sharing system that made no player the overwhelming ball handler, which was perfect for MJ once he trusted it. Kobe had that same triangle system, but it took him much longer to fully trust it as the head honcho of the Lakers. Kobe really didn't understand leadership and how to trust his team and the triangle system fully until the 2007-08 season. Phil and Shaq's dominance forced Kobe to trust the triangle, but once they left, Kobe always reverted to iso Kobe. MJ only had Phil Jackson and Tex Winters as his main coaches for two seasons before he understood how to trust his teammates and trust the triangle to maximize success. MJ's and Kobe's mental game evolutions are very different. Kobe was a player that could understand any system, but he wasn't a player that necessarily was going to play within that system.
I’ll give the nod to Steph for the simple fact that both players had teams built around them as franchise players and 4 chips have been won surrounding the team around Steph…KD was brought in to GS to compliment Steph and not lead the team…Steph>KD
Curry. He’s the far more impactful player & probably the only person I know who gets doubled 95% of the time😂😂😂
Lol no tf he doesn't
Delusional Steph fans these days lol
this video should be called: 2022 Nba Finals Hindsight
Why Steph aint get no Finals MVP with KD there?
Because he had a bad game 3 in 2018. Why does KD have no rings without Steph even tho he's had more than enough talent troughout his career?
this is coo but I need to hear hold on hold on every 2 secs need the ticket entertainment 😂
KD was better than Steph when he joined Golden State let’s not act clueless
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time l
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
@@deanbell300 you started this off with Bleacher report and thought you was finna say sumn shit😭😭😭
Facts KD was better for sure. 2 out of 2 Finals MVPS. And defensively he was great while with golden state.
I mean in 2016 Steph was a greater player than kd already
2 MVP
1 Unanimous MVP
1 scoring title
1 championship
Kd
4 scoring titles
1 MVP
Does greater mean better IDK but Steph was better offensively than kd but kd was better defensively than Steph
@Sebastian Rodriguez Steph deserved the MVP in 2018. He outplayed KD through 3 games; KD just had a great game 3, and Steph had a terrible one. That shouldn't have outweighed Steph's three great games though.
Kd been in the best player in the world discussion for a decade
KD been the best for years lowkey🤷🏾♂️
@@famousxji1852
You can't be the best player performing like KD did in the celtics series last year.
@@strongbone9471 so Kobe was the best player in 2011 ?
@@strongbone9471 injury riddled team, is all I have to say. KD had a bad serious. But let’s not act like Steph did not make the playoffs, the season before. So that argument can’t be used as a knocked to any of them🤷🏾♂️
Lol no he wasn’t. Even when KD joined the Warriors Lebron was still widely considered the best player until he got injured in 2021. Then KD became the best and even that was arguable. Steph in 2016 was the only player to come close to dethroning Lebron by hisself without the help of just im balling on a the team that’s beating you.
Low tryna play slow that u think d'antoni gon limit Kobe Bryant???
Steph is more impactful due to intangible, great tendency, understand what is needed that is what make Klay & Dray a tough core. If basketball was a pickup game then the 2016 thunder roster is world class sadly that’s not how the game of basketball is played
So why did KD outplay Steph when they were on the same team ?
Tbh the team was built around Steph so he is gonna have the better winning record when KD doesn’t play but in the playoffs KD lead the team in scoring and has the better defenders guarding him in every series. Also the Draymond himself said the Warriors aren’t winning without KD so it’s not clear cut who is the better player
Thank you!! You just summed that shit up perfectly😂 KD is CLEARLY better
Why would you build a team around a player if he isn't your best player?
Steph led them to 73-9. No team built around KD can do that.
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
@@StoneCold2k57 here you go lol 😂
@@Melanated1ne
You following me? 😂😭
you can say KD was the most talent player on that warrior team BUT curry was the more dangerous,impacted and valuable player on that warrior team when KD was there. Curry UNSELFISHNESS AND SACRIFICED plays an HUGE part why they won back2back championships and won for kd winning back2back finals mvp
that whole suns argument was terrible comparing steve nash and kobe to kd and steph when the gap is WAY bigger kobe was lightyears ahead of steve nash and would always be better then nash no matter what system they are in steph was always better then kd
thank you lol. someone finally said it
Bro, KD always been better. Wtf are we talking about. Especially before the 4th ring, nobody ever said Steph was better than KD, so y’all lying about that. KD picked up for the slack of Steph n Klay in their playoffs slump. KD offense, minus playmaking (even though it’s closer than you think), and defense was miles ahead of Steph in GSW. Especially, in the playoffs. How quick y’all forget…
That’s kap 😂
@@princewilliams86 KD is KD. And he is just better than Steph simple😂
A lot of people said curry was better than kd pre 4th ring. Wtf? KD picked up the slack for steph because the opponent's main priority defensively was steph. The defense backsd then would rather let kd score a bucket in transtion then to let steph shoot a 3. And KD is no where near to being defensively elite to where his defense is a big enough seperator to detemine whose better between steph and KD.
Kd hasn't been better then steph since 2015 lol there is no evidence u can point to except for a few points he might of averged more in a few series. He never led the warriors I'm scoring, steph was a mvp Canadadite not him and when kd got hurt the warriors won 6 straight games to go back to the finals lol kd doesn't have a. Argument
@@strongbone9471 he was in runner to win DPOY every year he was in GSW. That definitely separates him from Steph😂
Everything Curry was doing KD could also do, Everything KD did Curry could not do.. If Curry could have did it without KD wtf did they recruit him? Makes no sense. They were crying after that 2016 loss and Kyrie owned Curry. Thats what happened..
ur username should change
@@MarzTalksSports Come on Marz, I already cooked you. I know you are a undercover Curry fanboy, you said Curry cleared Kobe then I came on the show and cooked you then you back tracked. Like I said KD can do what Curry does constantly running off moving screens ain't hard to figure out and KD is a way better one on one scorer AND KD is NOT a defensive liability like Steph is. Yes Curry is greater than KD all time but when they played together KD was the best player on the team, even Steve Kerr himself said that...
@@marlowstanfield6815 highly doubt i said curry cleared kobe as a player but sure and u definitely didnt cook me lol
The way y’all talking , kd won mvp cause of curry , kd a 4 time scoring champion cause of curry , kd got to the finals with okc cause of etc , the kd hate is sad and ridiculous and some of y’all riding curry so hard that the facts yall proving are straight bull shit
Y’all acting like KD didn’t score 30 ppg in the playoffs without Steph. KD was always better than Steph, Steph had just a way better team.
Being better isn't just about points. GSW outscored their opponents by 8 pts and had a championship level win rate without KD, without Steph it's about 2 points. Together its at 11. Steph is the better more impactful player.
@@AMINOMMA Steph is the better player period
I'm crying kd had kyrie Westbrook harden and Ibaka and couldn't do shit
KD is a better 1v1 player, he releases the ball from so high he's just harder to guard individually. But I believe Steph is a better offensive weapon. He draws so much attention because of his range, handle, layup package, and he never stops moving off the ball.
Kevin Durant is the better player but curry maybe slightly greater because of the 2 extra rings
Kd not the better player 😂😂😂
Steph was never and can never be better than kd. Yes steph is the franchise player in GS and a fan favorite in the NBA. He shoots flashy 3s . But that's about it
KD is a better basketball player than Stephen Curry and always will be.
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant never been best player in NBA
When suns lose to warriors, this debate will finally be put to bed
Curry has been the best player since 2015. If you disagree then you evaluate basketball incorrectly
Best player in what ?
@@showtimej2582 in the NBA
@@SosukeTYBW hell no he hasn’t 😂😂😂😂 he never was the best he had an argument in 2016 but that’s it
@@showtimej2582 then why do I always hear when people talk about that 2017-2019 span they say you can drop any somewhat decent to great player in KD spot and warriors do the same thing, is that not admitting that curry at that time was basically a guaranteed ring for anyone in KD position, they not saying the player is bringing them to championships but that anyone that got on the warriors at that time had a fastlane to guaranteed rings cause curry was just that great of a player/teammate
@@SosukeTYBW because the team was so great and damn near unbeatable before Kd got there that’s why he’ll they won 73 games and should’ve won in 2016
All the warriors players and the coach (Kerr) have said outright or heavily implied that KD is better than Steph. 2017-2020 KD was comfortably better.
Steph was quite literally always better than KD ever since Steph walked KD down 3-1 and since then I always said curry was better
Walked him down and then Ran him down after he got his ass walked down by LBJ n it’s facts he did
@@bleekwilliams5089 nah the finals was rigged that doesn’t count
@@shivumagarwal man everything rigged when it don’t go people way fck dat thanks fa your info I won’t debate
@@shivumagarwal nothing rigged about Kyrie outplaying Curry.
@@bleekwilliams5089lebron better than steph
The same team that shut KD down Steph torched that same team. KD won one playoff series since leaving gs, blew a 3-1 lead to Steph
Yall swear Kd is better because he's tall. Thats a dumb bias basketball fans been brainwashed with
It’s not because he’s "Tall" he’s a more skill player and a better defender. A better scorer etc.
It’s not “bias.” He’s just better at Basketball
He’s not an elite enough defender to even take much of defense into consideration. And he is more skilled but in reality that really is just because he is taller. Meaning he can score at every level because he can get his shot at every level. But Steph is so good at one thing that it catches him up. And if you take into account non obvious things such as his gravity, affect on the game, impact. Even if you check their +/- or record when both was on the Warriors of when one played and the other didn’t . Steph’s is way better as always because what he is just has a greater impact on the game. Which is why he has won more. KD is a great individual player bt as a player on a team Steph is the second greatest in the last decade.
Bros 7ft runs the floor like a guard, and can score at will, it's not just height.
@@eugenestaniel score at will my ass. See this is what pisses me off. Everyone just watched this man get locked up by niggas like Al Horford and swept, but watched that same team look helpless
I don’t think Steph would have a mid Nets without Harden and Kyrie at times to a #1 seed whilst he’s playing. I don’t think he’s taking the Bucks to Game 7 and OT on with that team.
we dont deal in what ifs,we deal in facts,fact is:kd had more potential,given he is 7ft,he has more defense ,but he got no rings without steph,steph has no doubt th3 bigger impact,its proven that your francise better be build around steph,golden state and under armor proved that,and in the end its all about winning,that is the end goal,and in that case it is steph by a landslide,kd is of the best pieces you can get but curry is not a piece,he is rather the board/engine/cornerstone
@@mrkickinthesky I said think. You can only say that about one franchise that had particulars go right. You haven’t seen Steph with other players out the core 3 and when one of the 3 was gone he missed the playoffs. I don’t want to downplay Steph.
That impactful argument is so one sided for steph we’ve never actually seen a team for built for or around KD add on steph has the second best 3pt shooter in KLAY it’s not just steph Impact 😂 add on steph isn’t a good defender either how he the better basketball player than KD
OKC was literally KD'S team and he didnt get the job done
Brooklyn? Suns?
Reread I said a team built around or for him
@@m3ga975 those teams were built around him or was he traded to them?….exactly
If you add an all star to replace a role player of course you make the team better. The KD fans refuse to believe the warriors couldn't win without him
2019 was all the proof I needed to say steph clears KD. If kd is the best player how did the warriors finish off the rockets, sweep the WCF I think by a record margin if I recall and lose in 6 in the nba finals. Now replace KD with any all star player that plays a forward position and they could easily still win. Kd does not impact the game like curry its not even close anymore
That’s just false, Curry couldn’t even drive to rim untill like 2017, after The 2x FMVP came to save his legacy
Let em know bro😂 2x FMVP for a reason!
Let me know how many rings KD got without steph
Curry not being able to drive to the rim until 2017 is cap. I don't know how you got this so wrong when we have stats for this. Curry is literally one of the best guard finishers since 2016.
Y’all just make up anything now huh? If you think Steph couldn’t drive to the rim until KD got here then you definitely don’t know basketball. Even Stevie Wonder can see that’s not true
Last note, it’s funny how KD had to save Steph’s legacy but he can’t even save his own🤣🤣🤣🤣 he ran to save another man before himself then he deserves to get cooked. Y’all KD Stan’s are clowns
Steph was more impactful and more valuable to the Warriors than KD, no doubt about that. Only street ball mentality dudes think KD is the greater player because he has more skills and is a better scorer in terms of iso. KD was scoring on the Cavs in 2017 and 2018 because they had absolutely no defenders for him at all. The Cavs focused on Curry so much more to the point they were letting KD go for open dunks just so they wouldn't have to leave Steph and Klay open. Legit, JR as the last line of defense ran out to Curry instead of staying in front of a driving KD who got a breakaway dunk. LeBron's defense on KD was non-existent and pitiful, that was so embarrassing to watch. LeBron was legit scared to guard KD, dude was slippin and fallin out there 💀
2017-2019 KD was the best player on GS. 2016 I'll give to Steph. KD is a better scorer, rebounder, and defenders. Steph is a better passer/playmaker and shooter. That's it
stephen curry was and still is a way better offensive player, durant's defensive value does not close the gap enough
@@ZZ-ex8py I disagree. Steph's shooting doesn't close the gap
@@jeremiahsmith7706 bro this dude said Steph is a better offensive player… 😂 you’re funny bro that’s a terrible take and it’s not even funny.
@@jeremiahsmith7706 its not his shooting, its his playmaking
@@ZZ-ex8py shooter and playmaking vs everything else
Steph is a One way player, even tho KD don't try on D he still affective on somewhat 😆
Steph is a fine defender. He's been average for years now
@@Orangejulius4414 u High on Paint 😆 TF u just said Folks
@@AquariusLeviathanProphecy yeah I said he's an average defender. It's cool if you haven't watched any warriors games for the past few years but I have and it's true
He is Top 10 in blocks. Wouldn’t say he doesn’t try.
@@Orangejulius4414 I have NBA League pass so I get all the Games
As a player kevin durant is better
Very simple answer. KD is just better😌
@@famousxji1852 better at losing maybe, he gotta be the best loser ever cause y'all stay giving him credit for failing
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant never been best player in NBA
@@famousxji1852
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant never been best player in NBA
They brought in KD to be the #1 option. Everyone took a step back to accommodate him most of all Steph. He was coming off B2B mvps so the argument that Steph was “better” has some merit. BUT kd was there to be the killer. The tip of the spear.
Lo & Mars got cooked by the dude in the bottom right
How we watch the same video and this the conclusion you came to
the only reason that steve nash kobe comparison doesnt equate to steph kd is steven nash didnt win 4 chips with that system, kobe won 5 chips without being in the system. If steve nash played with kobe for 3 years and won 2 chips with him, and then won 1 before and 1 after, and kobe couldnt win sht and get beaten by that system. Then nash would be better than kobe. Also we need to appreciate only a handful of players in nba history has been good enough to be thr centerpiece of a 4 chip dynasty, that is why steph is better. so much of what he does is making others better that we sometimes only see his numbers which are also great but maybe not as great as KD. But we forgey that KD looked even better in gsw thanks to steph.
Steph. Stop playin.
Bro, Steph is not better than KD😂
@@famousxji1852 KD is good at everything but closing the deal. Steph kicked his ass when he was in his prime in OKC to where he had to join him. That right there pretty much kills your talking point. Thanks for comin out
😂🤣
@@nessdagoat Steph needed KD to win those rings bro. I’m just saying. He wouldn’t be seen they way he is right now, if Bron and Kyrie kicked they ass again the finals😂
@@famousxji1852nah they didn’t need KD at all. Bron got a suspension to save his ass
@@famousxji1852 KD hasn’t had a ring before or since he left Steph and he won’t, including this year. Don’t do that Whataboutizim shit bringing in LeBron, nope we ain’t doin that. Take your L
Leadership is also included in it.. Curry >>>> Durant
Kd was always the best player on the Warriors.
Wiggins was 😆
@@AquariusLeviathanProphecy you killing me bro😂
💯💯
@@famousxji1852 👀
Steph is a better team basketball player than KD is and always has been since his prime started. KD is a better iso player.
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant never been best player in NBA
Kd was the best player on the warriors
No he wasn’t
We saw it with out own eyes and people acting like they never saw it
@@himmie1 we saw curry getting more of the double teams and still averaged near the same numbers as KD who basically played ISO the whole time cause you couldn't help off anyone or else you'd have either klay or curry for a open 3
Facts
@God Blk kd would have none, curry won two without him. After people said warriors would not make it back to a championship stage they did. Stop pushing this narrative that curry needed kd more than kd needed curry.
If you look at career stats people would say KD is a better scorer than curry but peak for peak they average basically the same amount of points and curry has better efficiency (higher TS% both regular season and playoffs)…. And that’s what both guys do best… then you factor in curry’s elite ball handling, off ball movement, leadership, decision making etc he’s clearly the better player
It was KD please stop
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time l
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
Ima just say that I agree with the title and ima leave it at that
The the most impactful player on those runs was Draymond because without him they don’t win anything. Without Draymond there a bottom half defensive team and end up being the 2000s era suns where they score with anyone but can’t get enough stops to win a championship
Shutup
@@everythingknicks391 no argument at all…. Ok
Draymond Green 8 ppg and 44% fg and not even top 75 player all time and he most impactful anything
What happened to dray when Steph and klay went down he was nothing individual or team wise he said himself he ain’t wanna play
Hey buddy go take a look at Draymond’s career record without Steph curry and then look at Currys record without Draymond. Can you do that for me? Your argument is “they don’t win those championships without Draymond” yeah they also wouldn’t win without Curry. That’s not argument, they wouldn’t have won last year without Kevon Looney too, do you think Looney is the most impactful player on the team? They don’t win last year without Jordan Poole do you think he’s the most impactful? They also don’t win last year without Otto porter JR and Gary Payton 2 do you think those guys are the most impactful? What a stupid fucking argument you know Curry is the most impactful player stop trying to be special. You’re saying they’d be a bottom half defense without Draymond, well guess what THEY WERE ONE OF THE WORST OFFENSES IN THE LEAGUE WITHOUT CURRY.
These curry fans need to chill curry not on kD level the same Durant who help save curry legacy & tarnished his own 😂
Steph haters are wild
Steph haters rarely exist. KD haters are real tho
Scared of Bron so they got KD . KD clears Steph individually 2fmvps vs 1 lol
Steph was more valuable to the team, but KD was playing better than Stpeh individually. Not going to say I was watching all those regular season games, but in the playoffs especially the finals KD was playing the best out of anyone on Golden State.
Curry literally had a similar efficiency while having way more of a play making impact
@stanleywarren129 not true, just looked it up and the difference was as clear as I remember in the finals.
2017 finals
Steph Curry 27 ppg 8 reb 9 ast on 44% from the floor and 39% from 3pt
KD 35ppg 8 reb 5 ast on 56% from the floor and 47% from 3pt
2018 Finals
Curry 28ppg 6 reb 7 ast on 40% from the floor and 42% from 3pt
KD 29ppg 11 reb 8 ast on 53% from the field and 41% from 3pt
If you think back there was never a conversation if anyone on GS was going to win finals MVP other than KD.
@Avery B. you ignore that we have alpt of videos on those finals showing kd got wide open dunks because the cavs put two players on curry leaving kd open for dunks. Curry literally created open looks for kd and not the other way around. Notice kd has never shot the percentages he shot on the warriors anytime outside of golden state but Currys numbers remained the same with or without kd
@@stanleywarren129 exactly. Folks just look at box scores and not the actual games.
People act like KD wasn’t a 4 time scoring champion before he went to the Warriors. Steph ain’t the reason he was a prolific scorer. Check the stats. He is a great scorer before and after Steph. Averages more points in the playoffs and his overall career.
4x scoring champion and 0x NBA champ. And Steph is the reason KD is an NBA champion, not the other way around. Check the record. Prolific scoring isn't enough to make you a greater player.
Not trying to be a Steph hater but he got very lucky with great management. Klay Thompson, iggy and green were perfect for curry. Not only that but the warriors got extremely lucky in 2015 when kyrie got hurt. Replace curry with Durant in 2016 and the warriors beat the cavs
That's way more than luck wtf lol everyone they drafted wasn't even highly touted prospects and it took them a few years to develop into the beast they became so wtf you mean luck?
@@SosukeTYBW that’s the definition of luck. Curry is LUCKY he was drafted to a team with a competent front office. Put curry on the kings and how many rings he got????
@@tommartyn524 competent? At the time curry was drafted warriors was a dumbsterfire of a organization that was still at the bottom of the league for the next 4-5 years after they drafted curry, they then traded monte which the fans hated them for cause curry was still a young and injury prone PG then the following years drafted klay at like 13th pick and Draymond at the very last pick of the first round which Draymond didn't even start for the next following years until they let go of mark Jackson and hired Steve kerr who seen value in someone like draymond
@@SosukeTYBW and all that was luck. He was lucky that he got drafted there. He was lucky they got klay. He was lucky kyrie got hurt in 2015. He goes to any other team and he doesn’t have 4 rings. It’s luck.
@@tommartyn524 you obviously don't know wtf the word luck even means lmao
Curry makes everyone better made KD better
Drymond better
Iggy
And Wiggins
Steph wasn’t better until KD joined him to the masses.
Bleacher report top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
8. Bill Russell
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Steph Curry
Bleacher report doesnt have Kevin Durant top 10 player all time l
Curry 2 rings without Durant
Durant 0 rings without Curry
2016 NBA playoffs
Warriors 4 Thunder 3
Game 7
Warriors 96 Thunder 88
Curry 13-24 fg and 7-12 3pt for 36 points
Outplayed
Durant 10-19 fg and 3-7 3pt for 27 points
Celtics 4-0 swept and shut down Durant in playoffs 2022
Curry 4-2 ring and finals mvp beat same Celtics team 2022
Steph Curry better player then Kevin Durant
@@StoneCold2k57 I’m saying before KD joined him no one thought that bro. Literally but I get the argument now.
@@tayluc777 funny thing is even when Curry had Durant for the two finals wins Durant carried him so hard. I remember Curry would have games where he couldn’t do anything. Curry couldn’t even beat the Raptors without KD 😂.
@@timratliff5646 he needed him for Bron and Kyrie for sure.
@@tayluc777 I think people just have recency bias for Curry. Because back in 2017 if you said Curry was better than Durant you’d get roasted 😂
Bro the warriors won 73 games and went to b2b finals and came a free throw away from winning both, KD can’t even make the finals this a no brainer to anybody but KD stans
It's impossible to say that steph was better when Steph begged the man to come to his team KD did not reach out to the warriors to join them 😂
If Curry thought he was better he wouldn't ask kd and run it back but obviously he had doubts of him being the best player on a team to beat lebron
You've been watching too much Undisputed 🤣 Steph didn't beg anyone. He simply did what he was expected to do for the team. You do know Cavs were also trying to get KD even after winning in 2016, right?
@@SLiCeDx so going to someone house is not begging 😂 I get it you have to defend curry legacy like the media does for him
@itonlycanbe1663 So everyone that goes to your house to speak with you is begging? You see how foolish you sound? And given that the Cavs were fighting to get KD even after they won, LeBron was begging too, right?
@@SLiCeDx yes if they asking me something to help them with
When I didn't offer any help
Your asking me at my house for my assistance and it has to urgent because we could have talked on the phone 😂🤣 or not just ask him at all since y'all team beat his team and won 73 games so it should look weak on curry part for begging but he gets a pass from fans and media but kd get attacked that doesn't make sense when they won together not apart
Your going out of your way by coming to his house to ask him to join
Bron lost came back same team
Curry lost and begged for Kd didn't come back same team
@@SLiCeDx yes lebron James asked kd but the difference lebron texted him to join him in 2019 he didn't set up a meeting at the Lakers facility or at his house or kd house to convince him to come
Curry went to KD house to ask him not a text 🤣
This is documented sir 😂
So which one is going out of your way which is basically begging
Asking me in
A text or coming to my house to talk to me personally
When I saw JR Smith leave KD to have a clear run to the rim just to cover a potential Steph 3, that's when I knew he was *HIM*
That’s when I knew the Cavs were a bottom 10 defense
Quite frankly I'm tired of the Kobe nut hugging thinking there's nothing anyone can do to surpass him on all-time rank and all this is new cause I remember vividly how when he was alive the disrespect he was getting with damn near every year his rank would get lower and lower, I remember him being ranked top 5 before then it went down to lower top 10 so around 7-10 then it went to people ranking him outside of tye top 10 and calling him a shock chucker and ball hog. But since his unfortunate passing now I'm seeing a overcorrection and a denial of any current player outside of lebron since people been had lebron ahead of him even when he was alive, that no current player no matter what they do can surpass Kobe, idc what nobody say I already got Kobe and curry close on my all-time rank and if curry end up getting 5 at any point before he retire I'm putting him over Kobe all-time, it is what it is.