I am an Orange, Royal Arch Purple, and Royal Black Institution lecturer(confer confidential degrees) I have taken part in degree conferences of all these Orders inside Orange Halls and Orange and Royal Black Institution parades in Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland and have really enjoyed all of them without putting anybody's nose out of joint. In fact the GARDI (Irish Police) looked really interested to see the bands accomping Royal Black Preceptories of the Black Institution in rhe town of Raohoe, Co Donegal on the last Saturday in August for Co Londonderry every few years. I have watched AOH parades in Northern Ireland and have no problem with them. I have even seen the Freemasonic Grand Lodge Hall in Dublin even though I'm not a Freemason. Live and let live I say.
Let and let live but why is the orange order based on an ideology that we defeated them 400 years ago at the battle of the Boyne. We were the triumphant ones. We were the supreme ones. And we're not gonna let them forget about it by marching in their neighborhoods. The OO is not exactly conducive towards winning a Nobel peace prize anytime soon.
The Orange order, its officers' titles, its appendant bodies such the royal black preceptory and royal purple arch, all have their provenance in Freemasonry - within freemasonry they're simply titled "royal arch" and "preceptory".
Very interesting hearing these views. Thank you for uploading. I'm very comfortable in my Catholic and Irish background and will never waver from it, but I'd love to see the day an Orange lodge from Dublin can march peacefully through the city and show how Ireland and its people really are truly tolerant and embracing. Your tradition takes up as much space as mine on the flag I swear allegiance to so I hope one day you will feel that belonging.
Really. You think that the orange order marching through Dublin will be ok with Dubliners/Irish people? The orange order is against everything Irish. You fool. No orange order will ever be allowed to march through Dublin. Maybe you would like the ss deaths head division to march through Israel?
All too often I hear the Irish Tricolour described and displayed as green white and GOLD when in fact it is green white and ORANGE, orange representing Irish Protestants.
"I had people out in 1798" fighting for England against their own countrymen and women and denying Irishmen and women their right to vote in their own country and freedom to practice their religious faith.
Interesting documentary, even for RTE, however I am in the Order in England and am of Irish extraction from the South and glad they've have been allowed to air their views. The parades at Rossnowlagh, Co. Donegal, are really the only place the Order can parade in the RoI and the State tends to look the other way, as long as it's a diminishing entity and not a threat to their 'perfect' world.as espoused by 1916 and all that...!
I'm second generation Irish and 100%proud of my Irish roots.. So much I identify as Irish... I cannot understand these people have they no concept of Irish history. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Their culture is a part of Irish culture whether you like it or not. Their ancestors just happen to have been of a different persuasion to yourself and were loyal to the crown. Just because you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Interesting but what difference does it make? I have some English blood in me but that made no difference to the loyalists I was born among in Belfast.
How can a foreign monarch be the "keystone" to an Irish state????????? Their only loyalty is loyalty to the sectarian English monarchy, if the English monarch was Catholic they would not recognise that monarchy. so they themselves are sectarian.
His loyalty is to a foreign government and foreign monarch. No Catholic prime minister or no Catholic head of state, for over three hundred years, how ignorant and bigoted is that? We are in the 21st century not the 17th.
@@colonisedtartan9539 - no I am not from the moon and yes you are being nasty. How far back are you going when you said there were 100s. So please forgive my ignorance when I said I didn't know there were orange orders in Southern Ireland. I was under the impression that Southern Ireland was predominantly Roman Catholic. 🏴🇬🇧
The Irish tricolour is the only flag on these islands that has a representation of the orange culture on it but these people prefer the flag with the crosses of three Catholic saints on it.😅🤣🤣🤣
@@sircoloniser5454 Or mostly left because they weren't top dogs any more. Catholics who were suspected of spying for the British were alos murdered. The Black and Tans murdered plenty of Irish people and 1 million Irish Catholics and 20,000 Irish Protestants were left to die in the Irish famine.
Just really 3 attention seekers looking for ATTENTION. I 64years old and living in Liverpool..born and bred in Dublin 12 which is Crumlin...Windmill Park and these Guys with my Dublin accent in Scouse Land who speak the same Accent as I do.."UNREAL"...Just attention seekers and I bet at least 1 of them has been to "Southport " Orange parade on 12th July. Absolutely full of Union Jack's and red flag of and "King" over "Pope" flags as in the So called KOP. Showed this video to Niall who is Manager of "The IRISH CLUB" in Boundary Lane and I would not attempt to print what he said especially when they said in their "FCKN" Dublin Accent ...same as mine. "FUCKIN ATTENTION SEEKERS" is what they are. And what will they do When Ireland becomes 32 and real IRISH MEN have our Freedom from the So called "British IMPERIALISM " My God what's next "...Ah sure maybe they will blame "BREXIT " on the So called "Fuckin Queens Highway " as in Drumcree and then those 3 babies in Antrim whose surname as in mine lost their little lives. Really unbelievable what those Dublin "DUDS" are Saying. In their Dublin Accent. As everyone knows a United Ireland..not a fuckin United Kingdom...is just around our corner and that includes The Irish in Scouse Land who love the Irish Catholic Team. Two football teams Scarves in the Irish Club here in Liverpool..The "Celtic and the Toffees " Would dare those 3 Dublin rejects to come over here to the "Queens Highway " in Scouse Land as in " The Liverpool Irish Club in Boundary Lane " Really they would be found or disabled or discovered in the bottom of the fuckin Mersey...Like I have already said....FCKN ATTENTION SEEKERS.
@@Drifty40 Vast majority of immigrants in Republic of Ireland are Christians, and have helped the dramatic growth of the Protestant population in last three decades.
@@declanmcsweeney4639 Really....no evidence for that whatsoever...lol....neither does the majority in ROI.....social media is awash with anti immigration protests. 🙄.
Jeeeeez you’re a bitter twisted article, all over RUclips demonising everything Protestant. Get help, and you have a real British/English name too. Bizarre.
I am an Orange, Royal Arch Purple, and Royal Black Institution lecturer(confer confidential degrees) I have taken part in degree conferences of all these Orders inside Orange Halls and Orange and Royal Black Institution parades in Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland and have really enjoyed all of them without putting anybody's nose out of joint. In fact the GARDI (Irish Police) looked really interested to see the bands accomping Royal Black Preceptories of the Black Institution in rhe town of Raohoe, Co Donegal on the last Saturday in August for Co Londonderry every few years. I have watched AOH parades in Northern Ireland and have no problem with them. I have even seen the Freemasonic Grand Lodge Hall in Dublin even though I'm not a Freemason. Live and let live I say.
Let and let live but why is the orange order based on an ideology that we defeated them 400 years ago at the battle of the Boyne. We were the triumphant ones. We were the supreme ones. And we're not gonna let them forget about it by marching in their neighborhoods. The OO is not exactly conducive towards winning a Nobel peace prize anytime soon.
The Orange order, its officers' titles, its appendant bodies such the royal black preceptory and royal purple arch, all have their provenance in Freemasonry - within freemasonry they're simply titled "royal arch" and "preceptory".
@@SuppressioHibernicis You mean ROYAL ARCH PURPLE.
@@adrianbradley8513 yes, excuse the mix-up; I'm only familiar with the masonic version, which is Royal Arch.
I am a member of the Royal Black institution ,the Orange and Arch Purple
And Sir Knight I Agree Totally
I think you R Right .Im Irish Protestant living in England but feel like an Out Sider ! Why !
Thanks for this. It was a good insight.
Very interesting hearing these views. Thank you for uploading. I'm very comfortable in my Catholic and Irish background and will never waver from it, but I'd love to see the day an Orange lodge from Dublin can march peacefully through the city and show how Ireland and its people really are truly tolerant and embracing. Your tradition takes up as much space as mine on the flag I swear allegiance to so I hope one day you will feel that belonging.
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Really. You think that the orange order marching through Dublin will be ok with Dubliners/Irish people? The orange order is against everything Irish. You fool. No orange order will ever be allowed to march through Dublin. Maybe you would like the ss deaths head division to march through Israel?
No Union Jack or orange flag should ever fly over Dublin. 800 years remember The English made a profit of the helpless and defenceless Irish
All too often I hear the Irish Tricolour described and displayed as green white and GOLD when in fact it is green white and ORANGE, orange representing Irish Protestants.
@@Waffler_1You’re still not over it. 😂😂
"I had people out in 1798" fighting for England against their own countrymen and women and denying Irishmen and women their right to vote in their own country and freedom to practice their religious faith.
Torturing Irish men by burning their scalps with hot tar. Strange bunch tonbebrpoudnof that.
Great documentary. Thank you 🙏
That was brilliant.
As an Australian the orange order is a curiosity. Descendants of Anglo Saxons (Germanic) commemorating a homosexual Dutch King from the 1600’s. Odd.
You make thum sound absolutely fckn clueless, fine by me
Interesting documentary, even for RTE, however I am in the Order in England and am of Irish extraction from the South and glad they've have been allowed to air their views. The parades at Rossnowlagh, Co. Donegal, are really the only place the Order can parade in the RoI and the State tends to look the other way, as long as it's a diminishing entity and not a threat to their 'perfect' world.as espoused by 1916 and all that...!
Hello Mark. What part of England are you from? I’m in England too. From London.
Monaghan Town has a parade too.
Simpson said it best, it's a high regard, not so much an allegiance and he made no excuses that rhey have their qualms. Fair dues!
I'm second generation Irish and 100%proud of my Irish roots.. So much I identify as Irish... I cannot understand these people have they no concept of Irish history. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Their culture is a part of Irish culture whether you like it or not. Their ancestors just happen to have been of a different persuasion to yourself and were loyal to the crown. Just because you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
The Orange order is fully a part of Irish history. The Republic of Irelands flag partly represents the Orange order.
@@FannyShmellar a very sensible comment. Thsnks
Does anyone know that the king is a descendent of Brian Boru High king of Ireland
And Hugh O'Neill too!
Interesting but what difference does it make? I have some English blood in me but that made no difference to the loyalists I was born among in Belfast.
Very interesting indeed. Cant say I agree with their beliefs but its interesting to hear them.
Very generous
How can a foreign monarch be the "keystone" to an Irish state????????? Their only loyalty is loyalty to the sectarian English monarchy, if the English monarch was Catholic they would not recognise that monarchy. so they themselves are sectarian.
The Protestant thing is one thing but been British is another thing. I can't understand these people.
Sad stuff.
Join your local K.K.K. .....😂😂
Proud of all Cultures on our Island ..x
His loyalty is to a foreign government and foreign monarch. No Catholic prime minister or no Catholic head of state, for over three hundred years, how ignorant and bigoted is that? We are in the 21st century not the 17th.
Who says its a foreign monarch to them?
I never knew there were orange orders in Southern Ireland.
@@colonisedtartan9539 - no I am not from the moon and yes you are being nasty. How far back are you going when you said there were 100s. So please forgive my ignorance when I said I didn't know there were orange orders in Southern Ireland. I was under the impression that Southern Ireland was predominantly Roman Catholic. 🏴🇬🇧
Where is "southern ireland"?
@@colonisedtartan9539 - I'll try. 🙂
@@jsemplefelton5348 lots of southern Protestants
@@MiloManning05 - thank you. Colonised tartan has cowardlycremove their comments.
The Irish tricolour is the only flag on these islands that has a representation of the orange culture on it but these people prefer the flag with the crosses of three Catholic saints on it.😅🤣🤣🤣
that's the flag that flew when 200,000 Protestants were killed or forcibly expelled in the decade after Irish independence
@@sircoloniser5454 Or mostly left because they weren't top dogs any more. Catholics who were suspected of spying for the British were alos murdered. The Black and Tans murdered plenty of Irish people and 1 million Irish Catholics and 20,000 Irish Protestants were left to die in the Irish famine.
Glorious 12th
U have ah weather forecast ?
Such a laugh they there you republicans stay down there and we’ll march up here and there they are marching in the republic 😂
No sense in these people at all.
No sense in your comment
Just really 3 attention seekers looking for ATTENTION. I 64years old and living in Liverpool..born and bred in Dublin 12 which is Crumlin...Windmill Park and these Guys with my Dublin accent in Scouse Land who speak the same Accent as I do.."UNREAL"...Just attention seekers and I bet at least 1 of them has been to "Southport " Orange parade on 12th July. Absolutely full of Union Jack's and red flag of and "King" over "Pope" flags as in the So called KOP. Showed this video to Niall who is Manager of "The IRISH CLUB" in Boundary Lane and I would not attempt to print what he said especially when they said in their "FCKN" Dublin Accent ...same as mine. "FUCKIN ATTENTION SEEKERS" is what they are. And what will they do When Ireland becomes 32 and real IRISH MEN have our Freedom from the So called "British IMPERIALISM " My God what's next "...Ah sure maybe they will blame "BREXIT " on the So called "Fuckin Queens Highway " as in Drumcree and then those 3 babies in Antrim whose surname as in mine lost their little lives. Really unbelievable what those Dublin "DUDS" are Saying. In their Dublin Accent. As everyone knows a United Ireland..not a fuckin United Kingdom...is just around our corner and that includes The Irish in Scouse Land who love the Irish Catholic Team. Two football teams Scarves in the Irish Club here in Liverpool..The "Celtic and the Toffees " Would dare those 3 Dublin rejects to come over here to the "Queens Highway " in Scouse Land as in " The Liverpool Irish Club in Boundary Lane " Really they would be found or disabled or discovered in the bottom of the fuckin Mersey...Like I have already said....FCKN ATTENTION SEEKERS.
Well said sir, these people are trapped in the 17th century.
This is fascinating..I would have believed them more if they said they were Muslims..
Same onanistically orange tunc !
You'd need to look at the Irish Republic for the muslim immigration problem.
@@Drifty40 Vast majority of immigrants in Republic of Ireland are Christians, and have helped the dramatic growth of the Protestant population in last three decades.
@@declanmcsweeney4639
Really....no evidence for that whatsoever...lol....neither does the majority in ROI.....social media is awash with anti immigration protests. 🙄.
@@declanmcsweeney4639
Absolute nonsense ! 😄
Huv these cvnts never heard of hobbies
Jeeeeez you’re a bitter twisted article, all over RUclips demonising everything Protestant. Get help, and you have a real British/English name too. Bizarre.