Similar changes in all UK cities ,with the demise of working class communities that are close to city centres.Gentrification,immigration,poor housing conditions makes the educated working class move on ,leaving the unemployed and elderly to live unhappily (usually) with the changes.Private landlords,also,change these areas.
@@zakmarsden5997 I wasn’t talking about identity -was talking about inner city changes and the depopulation of the Protestant community in those areas due to a combination of circumstances.
so what do you suggest keep fighting ghosts of the past on behalf of a Britain that doesn't exist and how are you going to convince a growing number of unionist's who are fed up of stagnation and just want to live in a normal society instead of fighting shadows of your imagined cause. Rossnowlaigh is a shining example of what unionists need to do going to the future. The orange parade took place yesterday a great family day out for everyone not just orange men the whole community and their grand marchel spoke of how everyone in the community there cooperated on a day to day basis. Proud Irishman and women proud of their British heritage. How do you intend to sell the union to your nationalist neighbours if theres a border pole in your life time demographic's are changing and so are attitudes are too just think on it.
I'm Irish living in SE England. I think the best chance Loyalist have at ensuring their culture isn't lost (and it should be preserved) is to look to how it can be integrated within Ireland. Living here in the UK I can say with absolute certainty that 99.9% of British people here do not understand a thing about Loyalism and they care about it even less.
Look at who we are supposed to be loyal too. Sold out by an unelected indian & a pakistani mare of london. There are plenty of us that seeth with rage at what is happening. We tried the democratic approach. They don't listen. We are reaching a tipping point. You will soon see what loyal English people look like. Do not make the usual mistake of banding all English people together. We are very different from our so called ruling classes
I think loyalists in N. Ireland claim to be loyal to the crown Charlie, not the British government! And you may have missed this, but the film focuses on loyalism in N. Ireland. Nothing to do with English loyalism (whatever kind of racist nonsense that may be). But here, thanks for watching.
@@charliesmithers7663you're not British. You're Irish of British heritage. (Unless of course I got the wrong end of the stick and you're actually English) And you're not under threat from us. We won't be killing you lot. You can have flags, you can go celebrate the battle of the Boyne at the actual site itself if you like and love a foreign royal family that's also foreign to Britain. You will just be called Irish. You won't be forced into popery and other such things. You gear something that isn't going to happen and it's really frustrating.
I spent a lot of time in the Village as a child and teenager. I used to go to Linfield matches and I had various family members that lived in different parts. I also lived on Tates Avenue as a student. It's been at least 20 years since I've been back there and your video has shown me how much it has changed. I would barely have recognised it. Really interesting video. Well done.
I was born and lived in 8 Olympia drive my uncle played for the blues Phil Scott. Out playground was at Windsor the stone bridge and even the railway track. I still remember my childhood there up until I left at 10 as a great childhood with great people.
I lived in the Village area in the early 70’s , moved into a boardinghouse as I was attending the local college, arriving by taxi the first night not knowing where I was I unpacked my bags and proceeded to go to a fish n chip shop I spied from the taxi on the corner of Melrose Street and to my horror as I closed the front door , I turned around and saw a Loyalist paramilitary roadblock less than 20 yards from me , being a young teenage Republican activist from the Bogside I quickly realized if I show fear or turn back I’ll be sussed and probably end up found dead in an alleyway so I brazened my way through the checkpoint even mustering a hearty good evening to the masked locals with their clubs and shield . I bought my fish n chips and nonchalantly walked back through the checkpoint to my digs and realized I am living in a loyalist area afterwards learning it was called the Village , I lived there for almost one year and found the locals friendly people but then they didn’t know I was a Republican from the Bogside which could have been detrimental to my existence there 😂 To be honest I found the Belfast people by and large to be a lively, friendly bunch, always up for a laugh or “geg” they’d call it , the Troubles were the worst thing to happen in the history of Northern Ireland and I’m happy to see a live and let live attitude prevailing for the most part . We live in a very beautiful part of the world and it’s time we all mucked in to make it better for everyone.
Present peace now stills our hand/Death no longer stalks our land/Our guns are silent and shall remain/But when needed we shall rise again." Ulster Volunteer Force 🇬🇧👊🏻
it must have been a worry with you being a republican if you were found out it would have been very dangerous for your health 😜😜😜 you lasted longer then I would have the first time I'd have seen the roadblocks as you walked into the chip shop I'd have legged it left clothes and everything else 😂😂😂😂 I'd have been back home sharpish sleeping with me ma 😂😂😂 take care. PEACE Dublin
I am from the West of Ireland and visited Belfast twice. Both times were great. Loved the pubs, food and the people. I'm going to visit more aften, including other places in Northern Ireland. Wishing the people of Northern Ireland a peaceful future of reconciliation and prosperity.
The same way you call it the west of Ireland, nationalist people, the same people as yourself call it the north of Ireland, not Northern Ireland, learn , read and realise what’s happening in your country
My grandfather came from sandy row, he married a Catholic girl and two of his brothers married Catholic girls. I bet they were probably seen as the biggest Lundy's lol. The village is slowly dying out but I think sandy row still has a strong community.
Sandy row does have a strong community, though in fairness The Village does too. But Sandy Row has become quite run down in recent years - the shopping area. It will also fall victim to the changing times I think. Thanks for your comment.
This is a really interesting and informative video.The marches in Glasgow seem to be dwindling in number, generally older with fewer young people that in ten years won't be enough to run the organisations.
Unionist politicians offer no hope to young people in NI. Some young Protestants are now turning to Sinn Fein. They’re sick of the history and want a future.
Great video, I’m from Dublin and really enjoyed it. I was in Spain on holidays this year and young kids playing together 2 from England and one from Northern Ireland the English kids were calling the young girl from N. Ireland Irish,and she shouted at them I’m neither Irish or English, I am northern Irish and my god she was adamant about it.
Thanks Shane, nice anecdote. Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you’ll watch some more Naked Ireland. There’s one going out tomorrow that’s on a similar theme to the Village one.
So called Northern Irish is still classed as Irish, when people say Northern Irish, what's the Second word they say.............Its IRISH Everyone born on the Island of Ireland is classed as Irish in England and Everywhere else too, No matter what Passport a person has
When My Dad was sailing over to Heysham mid 50's some of the men on the boat he knew.One was adamant that he would be fine etc as he was a Protestant.My Dad said when you get off this Boat you will be just like me a Catholic being branded Irish and when My Dad met him a few months later and asked how he went on...His reply was you were right everywhere called him Irish or Paddy! The lodgings hard to come by...No Irish,Black and Dogs.
She is the product of the new Northern Ireland parent. They are Irish and British when they want to be. They chose their identity according to which side can benefit them the most at the time.
Being a Protestant living in East Belfast it feels as if more and more the ring is closing. Belfast has most certainly changed and even now I feel East Belfast is changing more and more by the day. Whether this is a good or bad thing? Who knows? we all have different views.
Thanks for your comment Charlie. I’ve seen some really positive change in East Belfast recently, in particular the areas such as Ballyhackamore, now one on the cities thriving new districts. More to be done, but it’s great when the whole city can benefit from positive change.
Love the new breweries and the Flout pizzeria in East Belfast. I used to live just off the Albertbridge road there. Things have defo changed in the last 5 years there.
@@davidbarth80 the new breweries and bars have give some life to the Newtownards road that had previously been lost. East Belfast is certainly changing.
Im from Galway and spent a few days in NI in 2018, mostly in belfast with a quick journey up to the giants causeway. Everyone was so nice, and i have no idea what background anyone was from. I absolutely do not want to see loyalism or British culture disappear. Its a part of this island and must always be remembered and preserved.
@nakedireland there's British identity in the south too, as well as other remnants of the British empire. All as important as what's in the North. Its part of what makes this island how it is.
@@nakedireland my brother lived down there for years during the 90s, i remember going through a 'community' checkpoint of burning cars. good riddance to those days and that was pre 97. good video though i couldnt help but feel you had a dig at the turkish barbers lol he pays his money like the rest of the businesses
On the contrary Michael, I love the Turkish and Syrian barbers in the area and frequently use them myself. Great people and great barbers. But, yes, those were bad days, better days ahead.
We went on holiday to Belfast/Northern Ireland a few weeks ago and the people were the friendliest we have ever met in any of our travels. Also the centre of Belfast was “relatively” diverse and frankly could have been almost anywhere in Europe.
Hi Gary, that's nice to hear. And yes, Belfast is certainly becoming more diverse. When I was a child I grew up in a mono culture, I think it's great to see such diversity now.
@@nakedireland My son lives just off Falls Road with his partner. We will be going back sometime in September but this time probably staying in a City Centre hotel. We stayed in the boat house in Whiteabbey but found the driving out of Belfast very stressful. You join the M2, then need to pull across onto the M3, then pull across onto the M5 !!!! Any recommendations for a reasonable hotel in the city centre?
Try the Ibis at Queen’s. It’s usually cheep and it’s in a great part of the city - up around the university. If it’s full there’s another Ibis in the town centre. Otherwise there are some good airbnbs. I know a great one on the Lisburn road - £110 a night, but I think with a minimum stay of 4.
Well, that change is happening in Republican areas too. Those areas are seeing large numbers of foreigners moving in, most of whom have no interest in Irish Republicanism or its history. As for those new houses, you are wrong, those new houses (ebor street) are mainly filled with Protestant locals
Thank you for posting up this video. It's so interesting to see the loyalist areas . I'm from Cork so don't know would I be ever able to visit with my accent and my ROI Car registration. So this video is great for me. Thanks you :)
Most of the loyalist parts of SB are now mostly immigrants and mostly private rentals with many young professionals moving in to be close to town. Plus Belfast is a majority Catholic area now. It has changed on a big level over the past 25 years.
@@nakedireland it’s happening all across Belfast. My own family came from the Village and Shankill and left decades ago when the newer estates were built across likes of east Antrim.
It has changed on a big level over the last 5-10 years. Huge numbers of people from the African subcontinent have settled in Belfast, many hotels filled with a rapidly expanding influx of immigrants. Give it 10-15 years max and Belfast will be a majority Muslim city.
I lived on Tates Avenue on the other side of the bridge, on the Lisburn Road side. I once took a stroll around the village, it was a bizarre experience. I remember walking down I think it was a Kitchen Street. Felt like a scene from a western - all houses boarded up, tumbleweeds rolling across the street...I started counting and I think out of 110-120 on the street only 3 houses weren't boarded up. Just checked Google maps and can see the entire street was demolished. Can't say I'm surprised. It felt very reflective of what I've seen as the Loyalist movement. Stuck in the past, not being able to move on with times.
Videos like yours are important for building understanding and empathy across the traditional communities. I still feel like segregated education needs to be scrapped before we see real healing in places like Belfast. If you grow up going to a different school than themuns, the division goes on into another generation. Put kids together and they will play together, and they'll grow up together with the feeling that there is nothing to fear from the other side. I really hope that the divisions can be bridged and that the mutual understanding and respect for the cultures and traditions across these communities can be built.
Yes segregated education absolutely needs to be scrapped starting yesteryear! That would help so much. I live in the American South and i can tell you any kind of segregation starting at the growing minds of children is working backwards. Ill say to a large degree throw the religion out.. it only divides.
Was born & bred in the village, we lived in Glenmachen st, lower broadway, lower Rockview st & Frenchpark st before our family moved out in the mid 80s. I can remember going to the Nubia club, the Jampot also Victors & Curlys sweet shops in Broadway & the Midnight at the corner of Lecale st to get a single & a match for 10p. Used to go to Beatties chippy every friday & they had a staff photo with Billy Connely behind the counter. Had went to Donegall rd primary then Deramore HS. Just a few things i remember from living in the village.
Great Video. Nice to see the Tribute to LFC on the Mural at 5.30. My home city is Liverpool but I spent best part of 20 years in Belfast, my 2nd home and I can honestly say that the people are some of the nicest and genuinely warm people that I have ever met.
@@nakedireland You're a master debater! Loyalist communities are famously insular to the point of not accepting other unionists from outside. The UDA & UVF drug lords keep it tight for obvious reasons. Cop yourself on lad.
Division among any population sharing a city, town or village is depressing. I think those divided need to investigate the history of that division. Who caused and drove it, most likely are the same ones that prospered from it. Turn a deaf ear to the 'dog whistles'. At the crux of it, all men are born and all will die. We can pull together or struggle apart.
Lived in the little house by the white gable wall for 3 years in the early 90s. (6.06 in video) As a Catholic not from Belfast scared the bejesus out of me. In hindsight with exception of match days and marches, the people were wonderful.
@@nakedireland No doubt about that, and I believe that everyone here in the Republic of Ireland wish that for you too, however I have deep misgivings about a UI, especially when it's clear there's been very little reconciliation so far. It's almost (and I think your video touches on it) that the idea was to wait for enough distance to pass and for the hardliners/older people on both sides to die off. That has been the real damage of Brexit, as it is bringing all this to the fore again prematurely, and not for the good.
Thanks Peter, it’s true, Brexit has been disaster, but I still have great hopes for reconciliation in the future. If anything, Brexit has probably reoriented the north towards ROI. People in the north voted to remain in the EU.
@@nakedirelandbrexit has not been a disaster, the Irish republic voted against the Lisbon treaty in 2007 because of the same concerns that people voted for brexit. Ireland was made to vote again and over turn their referendum. The Irish republic and the uk are both being destroyed by multiculturalism. In the end both populations will be marginalised by immigrants.
@@peterincork3121 I'm from Dublin. Work took me all over Ireland and lived in Cork, Limerick and Belfast. I absolutely LOVED Belfast. I can't explain it but it has something the rest of Ireland is missing - and it's the most Irish of the lot of them with the way they carry on and talk. Really fond memories there and genuinely rarely ran into an issue. Hopefully we see a UI soon, long overdue and issues will sort themselves out. Most people both sides are the same.. Irish or British etc.
I did some work in Northern Ireland for the National Trust and had a walk around both Divis and the Black Mountain. Absolutely everyone we came into contact with was absolutely lovely, with the possible exception of the locals in the chippy at Andersonstown who heard my accent and short hair and decided I was an off-duty squaddie. Can't say as I blame them for their reaction, either. My impressions are that a lot of the people are absolutely lovely and while some of Belfast has been knocked about it the scenery is breathtaking.
Re the comments by the student from Bog side, which for some who may not know is the Catholics area of Derry. Absolute proof that if you assimilate into any community the world is your oyster. Although my home town is Ballymena. I have live in various parts of County Antrim Northern Ireland due to my father’s business-interests we had homes in various areas. Accordingly I would live for a short period in some of the areas and attended the closest school in most cases. The most memorable to confirm the point of this story was while living in Carrickfergus in the upper section of North Road some 68 Years ago, I attended the School right next door to our house, with a driveway and the small 1.5 metre stone wall separating the school yard from the house. It was a Protestant School in a very Protestant area of course. The only Catholic School was all the way down in Carrickfergus, so it made sense to me that I attend next door. Being 11 years old and growing up in a very liberal home, I didn’t have a them and us attitude and treated people as being people rather than what they might be. The point is no one ask and everyone assumed that I was Protestant. There was Catholic kids living in a cluster of houses some 15 minutes further up the Road and I became friendly with them. Yes they attended the School in Carrickfergus. Proof that a problem only arises when someone creates one. Fantastic to see that Northern Ireland is hanging for the better as the people shall benefit. Yes, the areas are changing as the Government has brought in Immigrants with different ethnic backgrounds, who are moving into the new housing. I meet people from all over Ireland and various persuasion’s. We often remark in agreement that the Irish don’t become Irish until they leave Ireland. Great that Michelle O’Neill is running the show and that her Deputy is a Royalist and both female yet. It’s the people in the republic I feel story for and hope it’s turned around soon. Would not live there for quids and no way it here should be a United Ireland, as the residents of the North are much better off as it is now.
Thank you for your informative vlog. Eventually all of the old terrace housing will go, to be replaced with more appropriate properties. I love visiting NI and wish the very best for all of its people. I've always recieve a very warm welcome from wonderful people.
@nakedireland ah I'm sure they do. It was probably the noise from my car that drew attention, they were probably wondering how it was still on the road 😅
Ha ha! Perhaps it was the tricolour you had mounted on your bonnet? Thanks for watching, and I hope you'll watch some more Naked Ireland videos. There are quite a few shot in Dublin.
@@nakedireland Ha ha! I have subscribed, I'll watch more of your Belfast videos for sure, I was born there but we moved to Dublin when I was very small. It's a city I wish I knew better, I was up there with my parents a few weeks ago and drove passed the grandparents house in Ligoniel. First time being there in about 30 years. Would love to spend a few days just walking around the city
Hi Niall, you should come up and stay for a weekend - explore the city! It’s inexpensive compared to Dublin. Could be a nice nostalgic wee trip for you.
Lovely bit of film making and the commentary is super smooth..I visited Belfast often before the troubles. I coming from the south at that time was astonded to find that of a Sunday in Belfast you couldn't even get a cup of tea...The place was literally shut down. A year later the place went up in smoke..
You should make a visit now, you’d see a big difference I think. Thanks for watching, and for the encouraging comments. I hope you find some other Naked Ireland videos that might be of interest.
@@nakedireland I went up there a few years ago..Did the bus tour...I was going out with a lady from a loyalist area of the city back in those days..She brought me back to her home one night. That was the end of me..😆..I was one of the lucky ones in light of what was about to happen... Never the less she was a very nice person. I was completely innocent & ignorant as to the layout of Belfast in those days.
My Nan came from Belfast and I always wanted to go there. Went there for the first time last year and it’s a great City and definitely want to go back.
Once we have a socialist united Ireland all northern occupiers who have a hateful attitude towards all minorities are welcome to leave the island of Ireland
In my many years travelling the world, the protestant/loyalists I've met abroad identify as Irish, as in the whole of Ireland. Unlike when they are home in Northern Ireland they feel duty bound to retain their British loyalty badge. Overall I feel that the newer generations of "loyalists" are being absorbed into what the world sees as true Irish culture.
I don't think I've ever met a unionist on any of my travels. I can see why they might introduce themselves as Irish (as that is how the rest of the world would see them).
@@nakedirelandI’ve subscribed to your channel. I’ve spent over 3 years living in Northern Ireland. Both my wife and I studied in the Healing school in Townsend street. We stayed in John street and Ballyclare. We now have many friends in Belfast. We’re from the extreme south east of Ireland in Wexford. We love visiting the Northern Ireland. And many Northern friends still visit us. We pray blessings and favor on Northern Ireland in Jesus name
Hi Sean, thanks so much for subscribing. I’m so glad you’re getting something from the videos and I hope I can continue to keep it interesting for you.
@@nakedireland I just hope that one day, all people in Northern Ireland can find true peace, and live as one. The past is so painful. We are now in different times, all working people should support one another.
Lovely programme you made here. Excellent production.. camera vision and music spot on. I pray for NI to continue evolving through "mostly peace." I know you guys still have your gray moments. I pay attention to what happens there. I was so gutted that Ireland almost won today 😢. My family name came from Ulster. ❤ yes, i subbed.👍Greetings from the southern Appalachians.
You're not kidding. Belfast is a bloody shithole. Dregs of the third world smoking weed and stretching their benefits by delivering Just Eat and Deliveroo. The Botanic quarter (quite a nice spot in 2017) full of Roma beggars and homeless people.
Mass immigration is destroying European countries. Some people welcome this. I personally think mass immigration is suicidal and people that believe in it should have no say whatsoever on how the said country should proceed.
An odd one, I was in Hawick today, somewhere you wouldn't associate much with sectarianism, and a woman had The Sash as a ringtone and a house had Ulster flags on the wall. I always thought this was more of a thing on Clydeside.
@@nakedireland Unusual as the Borders are mostly Protestant and I've not heard of this much. I wonder if these are people who have moved to Hawick from Glasgow and kept the traditionas going.
@@nakedireland They were Scottish, maybe not from Hawick. However, Hawick did vote no to independence, has a Conservative MP and is largely Protestant, so it could be more Orange than it looks.
Whilst we work and live in London we also have a smallholding in Cheshire and in Lancashire just to allow us to escape the city occasionally.The Cheshire area is full of Northern Irish with Lancahire not far behind. Where we live in London the Northern Irish "twang" is not as frequent as it used to be as the people have moved on to fresher pastures of Gloucestershire or Surrey. Quite amusing to find so may having get togethers in each others houses and religion whilst recognised was really not an issue,just a common reality of having to move away for work as you were the wrong "social class" in Northern Ireland or more like NI was a stagnant place for technology then.
Good vid, most of my experience of the Village was going to NI games & Irish League matches & cup finals with Coleraine. As Dylan said, the times they are a'changing...👍
Why do loyalist use the red hand, as its the seal of the O Neil family and is it not Owen Row hand who was a leader of Catholic and was killed in a battle against the British. Like do they have some other lad who lost a hand or something because if its the same red hand we'll they are using a Irish Catholic rebel commander symbol.
1. Its not irish its Gaelic, anything Gaelic isnt indigenous to ireland. 2, it originated during pagan times, so it wasnt Catholic. 3, it wasnt rebel, Ireoand was mad eup of dozens of kigndoms society in Ireland was clan based.
There many factors at play in shift of voting - Sinn Fein with Gerry Adams often boycotted voting - so many Nationalist under reported and under represented. Of course the Nationalist also becoming majority over time and have cleverly adopted topics of immediate interests like jobs, healthcare etc and pushed absorption into Ireland out as more distant goal. Michelle O'Neill whether like her or not her politics she is shrewd leader even acknowledging mourning in Loyalist community when Queen Elizabeth passed. I hope the peace lasts and all people see goal of tolerance. I like whole island of Ireland and wouldn't mind to live there since EU. But my favourite part of country is north coast near Ballycastle where I like weather and landscape.
The north of Ireland, particularly the north Antrim coast is certainly one of the jewels on the island of Ireland’s crown. Thanks for your comment and bless Ukraine!
It's going to take a very brave loyalist to face up to the fact that he or she has been duped by The English over hundreds of years. The Loyalist community would have done well years ago if its leaders had accepted the olive branch extended to them by Gerry Adams who ried so hard to let them see that both factions had been manipulated by the English. The Catholic/Naktionalists/Republicans on the one side were brutalised whilst the Loyalists on the other treated like puppets. The English did a superb job of dividing and ruling using religion to create a divide which also contained fear and privelege as its other main ingredients (amongst others). Its time the Loyalists see The English for what they really are and have been. An aggressive race of cheats and liars that has caused so much trouble and heartache in the world. Get rid of them and live in peace in a united Ireland. You will be made more than welcome. Loyalists may hate Gerry Adams but one thing he said is so true. : "The English don't have friends. They have assets." They have never seen Loyalists as friends. Stop being an asset and get rif of them.
exactly I'm not a fan of JA but he was right about the British government it always used a divide and conquer stragitic the amount of men killed on both sides by BMI is staggering and then Boris Johnson gets the Ulster unionist to vote for Brexit with his lies and deceit all the false promises he made were renaiged on as soon as he got what he wanted and he then proceeded to throw arlien foster under the bus he basically destroyed her and her party's reputation but I think it showed the Ulster unionist people who their real enemy was it pulled back the curtains and showed them how the British government really thinks of them 😜😜😜 PEACE
true words of a raving bigot, firstly the English are not a 'race' however they modernized civilisation, we would all be living in clay huts otherwise, yes some methods they used were cruel and by todays standards completly wrong but there are also many positives including the abolition of slavery, you have to remember hundreds of years ago literally every country was formed out of some sort of violence, Britain pales into insignificance when it comes to inhumane treatment of others, look what the Spanish aided by the catholic church did to south america, they literally wiped out whole civilisations, Egyptians worked 1000s of slaves to death countries invaded other countries etc, the celtic people invaded ireland, my experience of English people is totally alien to the tripe you wrote were republicans have only ever demonised me, threatened me and hated me.
All Irish peoples are irish Catholic protestant atheist Muslim indu man woman or both ,so enjoy Ireland and being irish. What happens anywhere else isn't important, The here and now is.
Think your Easter Lily is showing on this video. Genuinely, dont get your take. When Unionists don't accept people from outside their community they are knuckle dragging dinosaurs. Then when Unionists do accept people from outside their community it's because their culture is dead..BTW the other side off Tates Avenue is Olympia not the Village. Those new houses were meant to be affordable social housing for the young people in the area to buy the the developer put as high a speck as they could to get as much money as they could out off the houses and simply out priced a lot of younger residents from buying them, but there are plenty off Village born people in them. Then you read direct from Connelly House to insinuate that Unionists are voting for Sinn fein..The Nationalist-Republican vote is the same now as it was in 1998..Just SDLP voters are now voting Sinn Fein. This is obviously an option piece which you are totally entitled to produce but at least make it obvious from the start..
Thanks for watching Mark, and for your comment, and the info on the high spec new Village houses. For the record, I wouldn’t dream of criticising the people of the Village for welcoming newcomers - I think it’s absolutely great. It’s so positive in fact. I think there was a genuine positivity about my film. My hope would be that loyalist and republican murals would eventually fade away (which they will in time) and that all of Belfast’s communities can be diverse and welcoming to all. The whole point of my film is that the Village demonstrates the start of that process.
Thanks for your reply. I felt there was a criticism of the people in the Village with the use of words like infamous..I will be honest I haven't watched all of your video's and stand corrected if you have done video's in nearby Catholic area's like st James and used words like Infamous..which I think would also be unfair to the St James resident's as there are plenty of people in both communities working hard to move everyone forward. These video's are seen all over the world and I sometimes wonder why the need to make out that one community ie PUL is on a downward spiral while another, CNR are in some way on the way up. Just thought the comments at the end about Republicans running belfast city Council didn't fit the intention of the video and have absolutely nothing to do the the Village. There was recently a council election and a local lady was voted in by among other areas the people in the Village. Just don't agree with the political comments on the video. Good luck in the future with your channel.
That’s the whole point in putting it out there mark, to stimulate a bit of intelligent debate. Talking’s better than fighting about these things. Cheers for engaging.
A very gentle narration quite spoken tells of moving change slow unseen daily but over time huge my mother left Belfast in a blackout 1940 to take up a job in service in Limerick i m reminded daily of her courage North Vietnam would have been a better option at the but time has brought great change Good luck I enjoyed
In a few generations, after a UI has well bedded in, Orange/Loyalist culture will be little more than an quirky Irish historic curiosity, not unlike Morris Dancing in England.
A UI is as far away today as it ever was. 30 years time it may be possible, but even then it would rely on support from Unionist politicians. You would have to wait for the passing of Unionist hardliners like Donaldson, Wilson, McAllister, et al. A UI cannot happen without Unionist backing. The results of any future border poll or Referendum would be irrelevant. The two Governments would not force a UI on Unionists if they don’t support it.
Thanks Arthur, yes I think any border pole would probably have to return some sort of nationalist landslide for things to go that way. Though I guess democracy is democracy?
@@nakedireland a nationalist landslide in a border poll would be irrelevant. Even if all of the stars were aligned, a positive border poll in NI and a positive Referendum result in Ireland, this would still only lead to negotiations between the two Governments and all of the political parties in NI. Unless the Unionist parties support a UI, then it is very unlikely that the two Governments would force unification on the Unionist communities.
I think if it goes to a referendum the result would need to be respected. I think we’ve just come through one such referendum where that argument was made constantly. Though I agree that if the result was marginal it would be difficult to enforce (I felt the same about Brexit though! )
I was offered a guided tour by a guy in Johnny Adairs local once of his estate, had to respectfully decline, I don't know how I'd feel looking at Murals that are there to Represent my Presence there is unwelcome!
@@nakedireland Doesn't mean anything to me, no idea why it Derogatory anyways as just shows ignorance of Loyalists about the names of the King's of Connaught, Hopefully in the Future we see a lot of these Murals evolve in to things more Representative of a shared Northern Irish Identity, that be enough Unity for this Taig anyhoo!
As a Protestant this gives me hope that the loyalist bigotry that has plagued these areas for decades is finally dying out.. A United Ireland is the only way forward.
An inclusive non-sectarian Northern Ireland is the way forward and a significant section of the Catholic population would be more than happy with that in the short term at least. Don't think for one moment that a now Catholic majority in the North automatically translates into support for imminent Irish reunification. Nationalists are being a tad over-optimistic about the result of a referendum. More and more, especially amongst the young identify as 'other' rather than Unionist or Nationalist and see themselves primarily as Northern Irish rather than British or Irish. Anyhow, whatever the future, it has to be a peaceful and pluralist one putting to bed the bigotry of the past with equal citizenship for all and full rights to religious, political and cultural expression. A winner takes all triumphalism would be an abject disaster.
Those wee houses at 1:45 are gone now. Just a patch of grass. Doubt they'll build there as its pretty small. Seeing my old car sitting there is funny. Rent is cheap compared to rest of city and honestly - it's pretty quiet. Most activity I see is when kids knock the door asking for their ball. More students around than ye think.
the conflict here isn’t religious at all, it’s a matter of national identity specifically allegiance to ireland or britain, it’s like someone in kosovo having allegiance to either serbia or albania
the problem is I've just come back from Spain and a Hotel chain with 15 Hotels are aware of something. Whole families from Northern Ireland who have stayed in their Hotels since the 80s using British Passports are now going to the Hotels with Irish Passports And the Hotelier's are simply asking Why
@@nakedireland it might as you said and might is the word be a Brexit thing but 40 years ago those Families would not have even dreamt of applying for an Irish Passport let alone travelling with one so i suspect there could be more than a grain of truth in what you've said but i don't think it is the whole story something else is at play here alongside your theory
Applications for Irish passports from the north have sky rocketed post brexit. Much easier to get around Europe now than with a British one. They don’t mind identifying as Irish if it means they can skip a few queues 😁
@@corkboy4523 Spot on and travelling round Europe especially Airports if you have a British Passport you will be queuing and regardless of Travel insurance became Ireland is a fully respected member of the EU at a Hospital an Irish Passport Holder is automatically entitled to a level of treatment that since Brexit a British Passport Holder is Not and these are Facts. Thanks for your reply the points you mentioned are also true and correct
In reality I can honestly say that you’ll never see a catholic live or buy a property in the village area as for it losing its loyalism again it’ll never fall away as it’s youth are taught from the older generations and thus containing the loyalist to them , as for the nurses I do believe this is a small proportion in fact I know a few but these nurses are from the Philippines and don’t know the history , I do hope it becomes more inhabited by everyone because the houses are are attractive to the buyers .
The Orange order shortened the marching route in Belfast because the age demographic of many are older and the route is too long and there are less marchers to fill out the parade.
@@nakedireland Not true, over the last 25 years or so many young Loyalists decided not to join the loyal orders but instead join their local marching bands which are mostly seperate from the OO although there has been a small rise in numbers joining the OO and in fact a number of brand new lodges formed, dont under estimate the numbers, the annual sham fight at scarva boasts well over one hundred thousand people attending each year alone never mind all the other parades that day
@@nakedireland marching bands have never been stronger, theres still a sizeable amount of people within the Loyal Orders but younger folk are more inclined to join a band than a Loyal Order thesedays
Northern Ireland only came into being because actual anti democratic and so-called Ulster Covenant unionists refused to accept the democratic process in Westminster and the then perfectly legal UVF was founded to violently resist devotion, something that would be inconceivable when it was granted in Wales and Scotland. And yet despite all of their crying about the injustices of war over the years, unionism is the biggest threat to democracy, peace and prosperity on the island of Ireland.
if partition hadnt have happened things would have been a lot worse for everyone, Partition was a compromise, Protestants compromised the vast majority of Ireland and catholics compromised a tiny part of ireland, you cant have it all your own way, there has to be compromise in life, the biggest threat to peace and democracy here is an ununited ireland
The prospect of a United Ireland will, for some, stir the echo of a certain big man (NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER). It's not happening any time soon, but at the same time, you can't say "never". After witnessing Martin McGuiness shaking the hand of HM Queen Elizabeth II, you can predict absolutely anything!
Loyalist policies have less them nearly extinct, far more in common with their catholic neighbours than the foreign nationals flooding their areas. Shortsighted, narrowminded politics have led to the current situation.
If there is any loyalists watching this and are proud to be, could you explain to me in what way you're proud? Im not looking for an argument or anything like that, im genuinely interested in what it means to be a proud loyalist. Cheers.
I lived on Tates Avenue for a couple of years when I was a student at Queens University in Belfast, in the late '70s early '80s. The troubles were really bad at that time. I followed Cliftonville FC, the only Republican side in the Irish football league. When we played Linfield, I always had to walk down the bottom of Tates avenue to get on to Boucher road to meet the Cliftonville fans coming in from the Falls Road. We were then escorted into the Windsor Park stadium. Scary times as I always hid my Cliftonville scarf whilst doing that. If caught, I definitely would have gotten badly beaten up as a Catholic Cliftonville fan, in a really Protestant/Loyalist area i.e. 'The Village'.
By 4 to 5 years it will be a united ireland. England has already taken a few steps back in terms of financial aid and now the Republic of Ireland are investing more and more. This is the starting process of a united ireland. And because of brexit it is speeding up the process. Sinn Fein is now the largest party both north and south and the main push is for uniting the country so is Fine Gael the second largest party in the south. The best chance loyalists had was the hope that the alliance party would not consider it. But last year the alliance party said there going to push for it too. So when the vote comes around in 4 to 5 years there will be 3 different democratic factions loyalists, republicans and the rest that see themselves as neither. We no what loyalists will vote same with republicans. but the rest that don’t identify as those too vote for alliance party. so that’s Sinn Fein and alliance voting for a united ireland and loyalist voting to stay in the uk. Did I mention the catholic community is the biggest in the north. I think we all no what way the votes are going to go
Many thanks for your comment. Two things: given the Brexit referendum fiasco, if a referendum did happen in at some point in the future, what would the question be? Something like: Should N. Ireland leave the UK and join the Republic of Ireland? (The question is important) And, what percentage voting to join the Republic do you feel would be workable?
@@nakedireland I think it should be promoted as not the north joining the south but Ireland as a whole unites. And be seen as just ireland. Dublin will be the capital. And the voting system should be fair. If majority in the north and south vote to unite then that’s a fair way to implement this. How do you think the voting system should look. This is a very important issue because it will happen in this decade.
The same way as any referendum should work I guess, if that what you’re referring to? The key in a referendum is to be clear with the question, and to be very clear about what the outcome will mean prior to the pole.
I am Greek and I love Ireland and its culture. I am totally unaware of what exactly sets residents of Ireland apart from each other and I honestly don't want to know. I've spent time in Cambridge,UK and my houselords were an Irish old couple who proved to be two of the most wonderful people I've ever met in my life. Their sons and daughters too,as also the other Irish people they associated with. After some time I met more and more Irish people, some of them coming from Belfast and we had such a good contact. To me, Irish people are among the best, indifferent which part of the island they come from. So are Scottish people too. Last,a question,were the Undertones of Teenage Kicks fame, from Belfast ??
@@nakedireland fellls! Apologies. In Cumbria we refer to our mountains as Fells. I see there are uplands beyond your city. Did people get to walk those mountains/fells. In the mountains we are often more inclined to see our similarities as opposed to our differences, but could people walk amongst the hills?
A grotty little video this Referring the IFA as sectarian yet we look at the minority sport of GAA which even moderate unionists and Protestants find alien, sectarian and beset with terrorist affiliations The village is changing but it’s due in part to the movement of PUL to areas such as greater east belfast If anything this video demonstrates that main stream Protestantism sees loyalism for what it is - and disassociate with it, whereas the catholic community have no moral compass voting for a party married to terrorism and murder. Says it all really.
You make references to sectarianism in GAA and the Catholic community as having ‘no moral compass’. Can I remind you that this film is about changing demographics in the Village. It’s not about the GAA or indeed about catholics.
On the contrary, I’m only putting the facts. I don’t have an opinion in Naked Ireland. The film is not about the GAA, neither is it about Catholics having ‘no moral compas’ (which is a sweeping sectarian statement that you might want to retract?). To repeat, this film is about changing demographics in the Village. If you want to comment about your disapproval of catholics or the GAA, I suggest you wait for an appropriate film to attach your dubious viewpoints.
Without even seeing this broadcast some of the points you make in the comment are wrong. There is indeed a democrahpic shift in this particular area but its caused by many factors such as the removal of older homes at a ratio of for every 3 homes removed a new one is built naturally changing the population of the area. This isn't consigned just to Loyalism through, the same has happened in the nearby 'Holylands' and Lower Ormeau Road, two areas in the 90s considered Nationalist now known for University student populations and young city workers with all but maybe a few signs of Nationalism gone. That same story is repeated over across all inner city areas of Belfast from Loyalist Sandy Row to the Republican Markets, or Loyalist Donegal Pass to Republican Lower York Street area. What you've done here is single out a Loyalist area that had changed much in 20 years but failed to look at the vast number of Republican areas that have dramatically changed too. Its also worth noting that the people who leave these areas go somewhere... they just don't disappear, there is of course no mention of the new Loyalist housing areas of the city.
Hi Simon, thanks for your response. The subject of the film is the demographic shift in the village and how that is reflected more widely in how people vote in Belfast. The fact is that our citizens now regularly return nationalist councillors - indicating, as the film shows, how this demographic shift is not confined to the Village but rather is reflective of the changing profile of the city. Nationalist are also being displaced, as you say, in Nationalist areas, but that doesn’t reflect a downturn in nationalist voting. I think this is what’s at the crux of the matter.
Thank you for another great view of changing Ireland. It's going be viewed with mixed opinions, that goes with out saying. All we can hope is that the changes taking place are for a better , healthy, and safer future. Thank you. I appreciate the care you take in this venture.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate your comment. Yes, it's a tricky subject and some will obviously feel strongly for or against. My own motive is just to ask the questions and offer a few facts. You're right positive change is what we want - what shape that takes I guess is up to those that vote? Thanks for watching.
I think it's right to look at the general trends in the wider context as well. In the ROI toxic nationalism has been steadily decreasing. When I was a young fella, every GAA or football match, every youth club trip, or school tour would finish with a bus ride with everyone singing rebel songs. My kids couldn't recite one of them today (and I'm glad). Pro-republican graffiti was everywhere. It's largely disappeared. Tri-colours hung alongside black flags all over when I was younger. I can't recall the last time I've seen that combination. The Catholic Church has seen an exodus in recent times, as has the Church of Ireland and the Church of England. So perhaps it's nationalism and our connection with traditional beliefs generally that's decreasing. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I have no love for the church or blind nationalism and I abhor violence so I'd like to see some healing happen between our communities where we can honour our shared history.
I lived in Kitchener street 20 years ago. I also had a neighbor called Liz who was well into her 70's back then. She'd lived in the Village her whole life. The Kitchener st. house being only the 3rd house she'd ever lived in. She couldn't remember the last time she'd been to the city centre but as a young girl liked to go to dances at the Orange hall in Sandy Row.
Hi John, just a wee point to make. One island but two countries, Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. It's a bit like across the water where you have one island but three separate countries ie. England, Scotland and Wales each with their own nationalities, identities and culture. I know that I'm a Northern Irish protestant living in a country called Northern Ireland within part of the United Kingdom. You seem to base your point on land mass ... are you saying that the Scottish and Welsh people are really English, because England has a larger population and land mass?? Note, I wonder what any of the ancient people of this island, like the Cruthrin, would have called there home, long before any Gael arrived...???🤔
It's inevitable. As bigotry, racism, xenophobia, homophobia and sexism become more unacceptable in society, 'loyalism' will have to change for the better or disappear completely.
I saw that video yesterday from Galway 7 blacks beating up a white guy ,90 percent of inter racial violence in the uk is on white people ,soon Ireland will be the same,and that boy walking his dog in Belfast few months got raped by 3 new Irish,and that guy from religion of peace got life last month for murder of 5 year old white girl in Northern Ireland
Live and drink in the clubs in the area ,its still very much a loyalist area , never met a catholic in any of the bars or clubs in my 15yrs living there 👌
@@Kevin-rd5qo no just no catholics live there or want to go into a loyalist bar , just exactly like the falls rd over the other side of the motorway i wldnt want to or feel comfortable in a republican bar or living there . U cant force integration on people if its not wanted , village is a place on the up and happy to live there , no more secterian than the falls , twinbrook poleglass, turflodge , whiterock ,across the rd 👍
Worked in this area. You certainly knew what kind of politics they lived by. Everything was fine for 10 months of the year but the hatred and bigotry ruled for the other two. Their sense of humour is hard to beat. Really funny but also deadly if you happen to become a target.
There appears to be a change / transition / dilution of traditional Loyalist culture and identity in some areas. However issues such as the flags dispute / legacy concerns / the threat of nationalist culture and the rise of political republicanism and then the protocol, mean it's very much still thriving.
there is still hundreds of thousands attend Loyalist band parades and events collectively around NI, Dromore co down had an estimated 50,000 people attend the last Saturday parade a couple of weeks ago, Lisburn, Lougall, Larne, Moneymore and Artigarvan had similar amounts of people, Loyalism is far from diluted or dying
@@nakedireland That was very interesting. If the political make-up of the island of Ireland changes it's for the people who live there to make those decisions. Having watched and read a lot of material on Ireland's history (boy is it addictive!) I think many people in Britain are being naive when they think a united Ireland is inevitable just because of some demographic changes. If unification does occur I think it'll be on a gradual basis, a bit like a cohabiting couple deciding to get married. My abiding memory of Northern Ireland is complete strangers being more than happy to talk to me, regardless of where I was; which rarely happens where I come from.
Demographic changes, Republican voting demographic is a lot younger. NI was set up as "a Protestant State for a Protestant people", Albeit religion doesn't take the limelight it used to, and it doesn't equal a political ideology, Catholics are the majority. A Republican Party is the biggest party in the state, although Unionist take the most seats combined. I don't think it will be as soon as people say, but it's a definite possibility.
Similar changes in all UK cities ,with the demise of working class communities that are close to city centres.Gentrification,immigration,poor housing conditions makes the educated working class move on ,leaving the unemployed and elderly to live unhappily (usually) with the changes.Private landlords,also,change these areas.
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thats nonsense and wishful thinking, no true Ulster Protestant would EVER identify as Irish, Too much blood has flowed for that ever to be the case;
@@zakmarsden5997 I wasn’t talking about identity -was talking about inner city changes and the depopulation of the Protestant community in those areas due to a combination of circumstances.
@@JohnSmith-lt3jl and blaming immigration, hence making you a racist.
so what do you suggest keep fighting ghosts of the past on behalf of a Britain that doesn't exist and how are you going to convince a growing number of unionist's who are fed up of stagnation and just want to live in a normal society instead of fighting shadows of your imagined cause. Rossnowlaigh is a shining example of what unionists need to do going to the future. The orange parade took place yesterday a great family day out for everyone not just orange men the whole community and their grand marchel spoke of how everyone in the community there cooperated on a day to day basis. Proud Irishman and women proud of their British heritage. How do you intend to sell the union to your nationalist neighbours if theres a border pole in your life time demographic's are changing and so are attitudes are too just think on it.
I'm Irish living in SE England.
I think the best chance Loyalist have at ensuring their culture isn't lost (and it should be preserved) is to look to how it can be integrated within Ireland.
Living here in the UK I can say with absolute certainty that 99.9% of British people here do not understand a thing about Loyalism and they care about it even less.
Many thanks for your comment and cheers for watching.
Look at who we are supposed to be loyal too. Sold out by an unelected indian & a pakistani mare of london. There are plenty of us that seeth with rage at what is happening. We tried the democratic approach. They don't listen. We are reaching a tipping point. You will soon see what loyal English people look like. Do not make the usual mistake of banding all English people together. We are very different from our so called ruling classes
I think loyalists in N. Ireland claim to be loyal to the crown Charlie, not the British government! And you may have missed this, but the film focuses on loyalism in N. Ireland. Nothing to do with English loyalism (whatever kind of racist nonsense that may be). But here, thanks for watching.
Hello very informative.But could you quieten down the Music or better still get rid of it.Thanks
@@charliesmithers7663you're not British. You're Irish of British heritage. (Unless of course I got the wrong end of the stick and you're actually English) And you're not under threat from us. We won't be killing you lot. You can have flags, you can go celebrate the battle of the Boyne at the actual site itself if you like and love a foreign royal family that's also foreign to Britain. You will just be called Irish. You won't be forced into popery and other such things. You gear something that isn't going to happen and it's really frustrating.
I spent a lot of time in the Village as a child and teenager. I used to go to Linfield matches and I had various family members that lived in different parts. I also lived on Tates Avenue as a student. It's been at least 20 years since I've been back there and your video has shown me how much it has changed. I would barely have recognised it.
Really interesting video. Well done.
Thanks so much, that means a lot to me Andrew, with you being an ex-resident.
I was born and lived in 8 Olympia drive my uncle played for the blues Phil Scott. Out playground was at Windsor the stone bridge and even the railway track. I still remember my childhood there up until I left at 10 as a great childhood with great people.
These guys do realise that nobody in Britain gives two figs about them and most are likely barely aware that they even exist.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@nakedireland Yeah sorry it was a bit negative. Just perplexed me a lot sometimes. Good video.
Many thanks - I think we’re all allowed our negative moments! Good to hear from you.
I lived in the Village area in the early 70’s , moved into a boardinghouse as I was attending the local college, arriving by taxi the first night not knowing where I was I unpacked my bags and proceeded to go to a fish n chip shop I spied from the taxi on the corner of Melrose Street and to my horror as I closed the front door , I turned around and saw a Loyalist paramilitary roadblock less than 20 yards from me , being a young teenage Republican activist from the Bogside I quickly realized if I show fear or turn back I’ll be sussed and probably end up found dead in an alleyway so I brazened my way through the checkpoint even mustering a hearty good evening to the masked locals with their clubs and shield . I bought my fish n chips and nonchalantly walked back through the checkpoint to my digs and realized I am living in a loyalist area afterwards learning it was called the Village , I lived there for almost one year and found the locals friendly people but then they didn’t know I was a Republican from the Bogside which could have been detrimental to my existence there 😂
To be honest I found the Belfast people by and large to be a lively, friendly bunch, always up for a laugh or “geg” they’d call it , the Troubles were the worst thing to happen in the history of Northern Ireland and I’m happy to see a live and let live attitude prevailing for the most part .
We live in a very beautiful part of the world and it’s time we all mucked in to make it better for everyone.
Great story Mick. I remember those days - better times now as you say. And yes, we like a good geg in Belfast!
Present peace now stills our hand/Death no longer stalks our land/Our guns are silent and shall remain/But when needed we shall rise again." Ulster Volunteer Force 🇬🇧👊🏻
it must have been a worry with you being a republican if you were found out it would have been very dangerous for your health 😜😜😜 you lasted longer then I would have the first time I'd have seen the roadblocks as you walked into the chip shop I'd have legged it left clothes and everything else 😂😂😂😂 I'd have been back home sharpish sleeping with me ma 😂😂😂 take care. PEACE Dublin
I am from the West of Ireland and visited Belfast twice. Both times were great. Loved the pubs, food and the people. I'm going to visit more aften, including other places in Northern Ireland. Wishing the people of Northern Ireland a peaceful future of reconciliation and prosperity.
Many thanks for your best wishes and cheers for watching.
You're very welcome, the north needs like-minded people to share ideas with.
Here here.
The same way you call it the west of Ireland, nationalist people, the same people as yourself call it the north of Ireland, not Northern Ireland, learn , read and realise what’s happening in your country
Do yourself a favour don’t visit any neighbourhoods like the village or enter any pubs with butchers aprons hanging on them.
My grandfather came from sandy row, he married a Catholic girl and two of his brothers married Catholic girls. I bet they were probably seen as the biggest Lundy's lol. The village is slowly dying out but I think sandy row still has a strong community.
Sandy row does have a strong community, though in fairness The Village does too. But Sandy Row has become quite run down in recent years - the shopping area. It will also fall victim to the changing times I think. Thanks for your comment.
This is a really interesting and informative video.The marches in Glasgow seem to be dwindling in number, generally older with fewer young people that in ten years won't be enough to run the organisations.
Unionist politicians offer no hope to young people in NI. Some young Protestants are now turning to Sinn Fein. They’re sick of the history and want a future.
Sevco are shite C'mon The Hoops 🍀🍀🍀
@@danbreen6946 Give it a rest ya div
@@danbreen6946 says @danbreen6946 age 5.....
@@danbreen6946 at least we didn't harbour an abuse ring for fifty years. BJK
Great video, I’m from Dublin and really enjoyed it. I was in Spain on holidays this year and young kids playing together 2 from England and one from Northern Ireland the English kids were calling the young girl from N. Ireland Irish,and she shouted at them I’m neither Irish or English, I am northern Irish and my god she was adamant about it.
Thanks Shane, nice anecdote. Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you’ll watch some more Naked Ireland. There’s one going out tomorrow that’s on a similar theme to the Village one.
So called Northern Irish is still classed as Irish, when people say Northern Irish, what's the Second word they say.............Its IRISH
Everyone born on the Island of Ireland is classed as Irish in England and Everywhere else too, No matter what Passport a person has
When My Dad was sailing over to Heysham mid 50's some of the men on the boat he knew.One was adamant that he would be fine etc as he was a Protestant.My Dad said when you get off this Boat you will be just like me a Catholic being branded Irish and when My Dad met him a few months later and asked how he went on...His reply was you were right everywhere called him Irish or Paddy! The lodgings hard to come by...No Irish,Black and Dogs.
She is the product of the new Northern Ireland parent. They are Irish and British when they want to be. They chose their identity according to which side can benefit them the most at the time.
My mother in law lived in Kilburn street, the village, really enjoyed the video ❤
Being a Protestant living in East Belfast it feels as if more and more the ring is closing. Belfast has most certainly changed and even now I feel East Belfast is changing more and more by the day. Whether this is a good or bad thing? Who knows? we all have different views.
Thanks for your comment Charlie. I’ve seen some really positive change in East Belfast recently, in particular the areas such as Ballyhackamore, now one on the cities thriving new districts. More to be done, but it’s great when the whole city can benefit from positive change.
Love the new breweries and the Flout pizzeria in East Belfast. I used to live just off the Albertbridge road there. Things have defo changed in the last 5 years there.
Things have changed radically Dave. Thanks for watching.
@@davidbarth80 the new breweries and bars have give some life to the Newtownards road that had previously been lost. East Belfast is certainly changing.
I'd say we all have much more in common than that which might divide us, Charlie
Im from Galway and spent a few days in NI in 2018, mostly in belfast with a quick journey up to the giants causeway. Everyone was so nice, and i have no idea what background anyone was from. I absolutely do not want to see loyalism or British culture disappear. Its a part of this island and must always be remembered and preserved.
Thanks for you comment. Perhaps the British identity in the north is as important as the Georgian architecture of Dublin?
@nakedireland there's British identity in the south too, as well as other remnants of the British empire. All as important as what's in the North. Its part of what makes this island how it is.
@@meab12 of course. Thanks for your comment.
@@nakedireland my brother lived down there for years during the 90s, i remember going through a 'community' checkpoint of burning cars. good riddance to those days and that was pre 97. good video though i couldnt help but feel you had a dig at the turkish barbers lol he pays his money like the rest of the businesses
On the contrary Michael, I love the Turkish and Syrian barbers in the area and frequently use them myself. Great people and great barbers. But, yes, those were bad days, better days ahead.
Really lovely video and so well narrated. Enjoyed the voice-over as much as the actual film.
Thank you so much. I never thought I was much of a Morgan Freeman, but there you go! Thanks for watching.
@@nakedireland Morgan Freeman can only dream of having an accent like that 😄😄
Wow Andrew, praise indeed!
We went on holiday to Belfast/Northern Ireland a few weeks ago and the people were the friendliest we have ever met in any of our travels. Also the centre of Belfast was “relatively” diverse and frankly could have been almost anywhere in Europe.
Hi Gary, that's nice to hear. And yes, Belfast is certainly becoming more diverse. When I was a child I grew up in a mono culture, I think it's great to see such diversity now.
@@nakedireland My son lives just off Falls Road with his partner. We will be going back sometime in September but this time probably staying in a City Centre hotel. We stayed in the boat house in Whiteabbey but found the driving out of Belfast very stressful. You join the M2, then need to pull across onto the M3, then pull across onto the M5 !!!! Any recommendations for a reasonable hotel in the city centre?
Try the Ibis at Queen’s. It’s usually cheep and it’s in a great part of the city - up around the university. If it’s full there’s another Ibis in the town centre. Otherwise there are some good airbnbs. I know a great one on the Lisburn road - £110 a night, but I think with a minimum stay of 4.
@@nakedireland Thanks. There will only be the 2 of us are we are both well into our 60s . We will check out the Ibis when we book somewhere.
Yes, Ibis should be fine.
Well, that change is happening in Republican areas too. Those areas are seeing large numbers of foreigners moving in, most of whom have no interest in Irish Republicanism or its history. As for those new houses, you are wrong, those new houses (ebor street) are mainly filled with Protestant locals
Thanks for watching and for the useful comment.
Keep the blinkers on if you like
You can still build your bonfires in a united Ireland if that keeps you happy
@@Crum-pe4mn none of your business, we'll build it where we want. CAPICHE
@@shadowmanNI you do that. The Gardai can supervise in case it falls over before its lit like a lot of them do
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@@Crum-pe4mn keep dreaming, maybe get yer cornflakes, just you worry about being an EU province lmfao. Capiche
Thank you for posting up this video. It's so interesting to see the loyalist areas . I'm from Cork so don't know would I be ever able to visit with my accent and my ROI Car registration. So this video is great for me. Thanks you :)
Of course you could visit and you’d be very very welcome up north. It’s like everywhere else, you’ve got to watch where you go. Thanks for watching.
Fs get over yerself belfast is full of cars with southern plates!
You’re a polite young fellow Deanodog!
Thanks ..kindly!!
The only problem in Belfast is the druggies but other than that it is probably one of safest and most navigatable cities in Europe !
Most of the loyalist parts of SB are now mostly immigrants and mostly private rentals with many young professionals moving in to be close to town. Plus Belfast is a majority Catholic area now. It has changed on a big level over the past 25 years.
I think you’re probably right George, thanks for watching.
@@nakedireland it’s happening all across Belfast. My own family came from the Village and Shankill and left decades ago when the newer estates were built across likes of east Antrim.
I believe you George.
It has changed on a big level over the last 5-10 years. Huge numbers of people from the African subcontinent have settled in Belfast, many hotels filled with a rapidly expanding influx of immigrants. Give it 10-15 years max and Belfast will be a majority Muslim city.
Our new arrivals are very welcome as far as I’m concerned.
I lived on Tates Avenue on the other side of the bridge, on the Lisburn Road side. I once took a stroll around the village, it was a bizarre experience. I remember walking down I think it was a Kitchen Street. Felt like a scene from a western - all houses boarded up, tumbleweeds rolling across the street...I started counting and I think out of 110-120 on the street only 3 houses weren't boarded up. Just checked Google maps and can see the entire street was demolished. Can't say I'm surprised. It felt very reflective of what I've seen as the Loyalist movement. Stuck in the past, not being able to move on with times.
Thanks for your comment and for sharing your experience.
Videos like yours are important for building understanding and empathy across the traditional communities. I still feel like segregated education needs to be scrapped before we see real healing in places like Belfast. If you grow up going to a different school than themuns, the division goes on into another generation. Put kids together and they will play together, and they'll grow up together with the feeling that there is nothing to fear from the other side. I really hope that the divisions can be bridged and that the mutual understanding and respect for the cultures and traditions across these communities can be built.
I couldn’t agree more Larry.
Yes segregated education absolutely needs to be scrapped starting yesteryear! That would help so much. I live in the American South and i can tell you any kind of segregation starting at the growing minds of children is working backwards. Ill say to a large degree throw the religion out.. it only divides.
Yes more integrated schools is certainly the way forward.
Was born & bred in the village, we lived in Glenmachen st, lower broadway, lower Rockview st & Frenchpark st before our family moved out in the mid 80s. I can remember going to the Nubia club, the Jampot also Victors & Curlys sweet shops in Broadway & the Midnight at the corner of Lecale st to get a single & a match for 10p. Used to go to Beatties chippy every friday & they had a staff photo with Billy Connely behind the counter. Had went to Donegall rd primary then Deramore HS. Just a few things i remember from living in the village.
That is priceless stuff! Great memories indeed. I’m sure you’d see changes now?
Thank you for a great video. Absolutely enjoyed the clarinet in the background! No fifes and lambeg drums!
Many thanks, so glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the positivity on the music too.
@@nakedireland...Ahhhh go on....Bring on the Lambegs 😂😂....Love them !!!
I should do a film on the Lambeth drum!
Lambeg that is!! Bloody predictive text!
Great Video. Nice to see the Tribute to LFC on the Mural at 5.30. My home city is Liverpool but I spent best part of 20 years in Belfast, my 2nd home and I can honestly say that the people are some of the nicest and genuinely warm people that I have ever met.
Thanks for that Stephen, yes, I often hear about the great warmth of Belfast people.
Thats provided you'r a prod
That's rubbish!
@@rover9214 Nonsense.
@@nakedireland You're a master debater!
Loyalist communities are famously insular to the point of not accepting other unionists from outside.
The UDA & UVF drug lords keep it tight for obvious reasons.
Cop yourself on lad.
Division among any population sharing a city, town or village is depressing.
I think those divided need to investigate the history of that division. Who caused and drove it, most likely are the same ones that prospered from it.
Turn a deaf ear to the 'dog whistles'. At the crux of it, all men are born and all will die. We can pull together or struggle apart.
We'll said👏
Lived in the little house by the white gable wall for 3 years in the early 90s. (6.06 in video) As a Catholic not from Belfast scared the bejesus out of me. In hindsight with exception of match days and marches, the people were wonderful.
I’m sure they were Brendan. Thanks for sharing this.
Reconciliation is the key to a peaceful prosperous future and it is for the people of Northern Ireland too decide on their destiny
Reconciliation is the key Raymond, as you say.
@@nakedireland No doubt about that, and I believe that everyone here in the Republic of Ireland wish that for you too, however I have deep misgivings about a UI, especially when it's clear there's been very little reconciliation so far. It's almost (and I think your video touches on it) that the idea was to wait for enough distance to pass and for the hardliners/older people on both sides to die off. That has been the real damage of Brexit, as it is bringing all this to the fore again prematurely, and not for the good.
Thanks Peter, it’s true, Brexit has been disaster, but I still have great hopes for reconciliation in the future. If anything, Brexit has probably reoriented the north towards ROI. People in the north voted to remain in the EU.
@@nakedirelandbrexit has not been a disaster, the Irish republic voted against the Lisbon treaty in 2007 because of the same concerns that people voted for brexit. Ireland was made to vote again and over turn their referendum. The Irish republic and the uk are both being destroyed by multiculturalism. In the end both populations will be marginalised by immigrants.
@@peterincork3121 I'm from Dublin. Work took me all over Ireland and lived in Cork, Limerick and Belfast. I absolutely LOVED Belfast. I can't explain it but it has something the rest of Ireland is missing - and it's the most Irish of the lot of them with the way they carry on and talk. Really fond memories there and genuinely rarely ran into an issue. Hopefully we see a UI soon, long overdue and issues will sort themselves out. Most people both sides are the same.. Irish or British etc.
I did some work in Northern Ireland for the National Trust and had a walk around both Divis and the Black Mountain. Absolutely everyone we came into contact with was absolutely lovely, with the possible exception of the locals in the chippy at Andersonstown who heard my accent and short hair and decided I was an off-duty squaddie. Can't say as I blame them for their reaction, either. My impressions are that a lot of the people are absolutely lovely and while some of Belfast has been knocked about it the scenery is breathtaking.
It’s a great place with great people.
@@nakedireland It is indeed. And I'd live there in a heartbeat.
And you’d be very welcome.
Re the comments by the student from Bog side, which for some who may not know is the Catholics area of Derry. Absolute proof that if you assimilate into any community the world is your oyster. Although my home town is Ballymena. I have live in various parts of County Antrim Northern Ireland due to my father’s business-interests we had homes in various areas. Accordingly I would live for a short period in some of the areas and attended the closest school in most cases. The most memorable to confirm the point of this story was while living in Carrickfergus in the upper section of North Road some 68 Years ago, I attended the School right next door to our house, with a driveway and the small 1.5 metre stone wall separating the school yard from the house. It was a Protestant School in a very Protestant area of course. The only Catholic School was all the way down in Carrickfergus, so it made sense to me that I attend next door. Being 11 years old and growing up in a very liberal home, I didn’t have a them and us attitude and treated people as being people rather than what they might be. The point is no one ask and everyone assumed that I was Protestant. There was Catholic kids living in a cluster of houses some 15 minutes further up the Road and I became friendly with them. Yes they attended the School in Carrickfergus. Proof that a problem only arises when someone creates one. Fantastic to see that Northern Ireland is hanging for the better as the people shall benefit. Yes, the areas are changing as the Government has brought in Immigrants with different ethnic backgrounds, who are moving into the new housing. I meet people from all over Ireland and various persuasion’s. We often remark in agreement that the Irish don’t become Irish until they leave Ireland. Great that Michelle O’Neill is running the show and that her Deputy is a Royalist and both female yet. It’s the people in the republic I feel story for and hope it’s turned around soon. Would not live there for quids and no way it here should be a United Ireland, as the residents of the North are much better off as it is now.
Many thank for this comprehensive comment and thanks for taking the time to watch. Glad the film engaged you.
Thank you for your informative vlog.
Eventually all of the old terrace housing will go, to be replaced with more appropriate properties.
I love visiting NI and wish the very best for all of its people.
I've always recieve a very warm welcome from wonderful people.
Thanks so much, glad you appreciated the film and even more delighted that you feel welcome when you visit.
Took a wrong turn there a few years ago, got some funny looks in my Dublin reg! It is very like parts of Dublin actually. Cool video
Thanks Niall, for the comment. Actually I expect they get quite a few ROI car reg’s around that area, it’s so close to the M1 after all.
@nakedireland ah I'm sure they do. It was probably the noise from my car that drew attention, they were probably wondering how it was still on the road 😅
Ha ha! Perhaps it was the tricolour you had mounted on your bonnet? Thanks for watching, and I hope you'll watch some more Naked Ireland videos. There are quite a few shot in Dublin.
@@nakedireland Ha ha! I have subscribed, I'll watch more of your Belfast videos for sure, I was born there but we moved to Dublin when I was very small. It's a city I wish I knew better, I was up there with my parents a few weeks ago and drove passed the grandparents house in Ligoniel. First time being there in about 30 years. Would love to spend a few days just walking around the city
Hi Niall, you should come up and stay for a weekend - explore the city! It’s inexpensive compared to Dublin. Could be a nice nostalgic wee trip for you.
Lovely bit of film making and the commentary is super smooth..I visited Belfast often before the troubles. I coming from the south at that time was astonded to find that of a Sunday in Belfast you couldn't even get a cup of tea...The place was literally shut down. A year later the place went up in smoke..
You should make a visit now, you’d see a big difference I think. Thanks for watching, and for the encouraging comments. I hope you find some other Naked Ireland videos that might be of interest.
@@nakedireland I went up there a few years ago..Did the bus tour...I was going out with a lady from a loyalist area of the city back in those days..She brought me back to her home one night. That was the end of me..😆..I was one of the lucky ones in light of what was about to happen... Never the less she was a very nice person. I was completely innocent & ignorant as to the layout of Belfast in those days.
At least you had a guide!
My Nan came from Belfast and I always wanted to go there. Went there for the first time last year and it’s a great City and definitely want to go back.
Come back any time Michael, you’re always welcome.
My grandfather too from outside the city and many generations going back I want the best for this great city and for all in Belfast peace
Population replacement whether green or orange wake up!
What do you mean by replacement?
@@nakedirelandI'm guessing it means ethnic diversity. 🙄
I think that’s what he means James.
Once we have a socialist united Ireland all northern occupiers who have a hateful attitude towards all minorities are welcome to leave the island of Ireland
@@nakedirelandIf it is disappearing it is for the better
Long live peace and tolerance .
I’ll drink to that Donal.
Make friends not war👍👍👍
Good plan!
welcome to the village the muslim heartland of sharia south belfast
It’s certainly diverse. To be celebrated I think.
They’re celebrating all across France as we speak, lol.
😂😂😂😂😂
In my many years travelling the world, the protestant/loyalists I've met abroad identify as Irish, as in the whole of Ireland. Unlike when they are home in Northern Ireland they feel duty bound to retain their British loyalty badge. Overall I feel that the newer generations of "loyalists" are being absorbed into what the world sees as true Irish culture.
Thanks for your comment and cheers for watching.
I don't think I've ever met a unionist on any of my travels. I can see why they might introduce themselves as Irish (as that is how the rest of the world would see them).
@@nakedirelandI’ve subscribed to your channel. I’ve spent over 3 years living in Northern Ireland. Both my wife and I studied in the Healing school in Townsend street. We stayed in John street and Ballyclare. We now have many friends in Belfast. We’re from the extreme south east of Ireland in Wexford. We love visiting the Northern Ireland. And many Northern friends still visit us. We pray blessings and favor on Northern Ireland in Jesus name
Hi Sean, thanks so much for subscribing. I’m so glad you’re getting something from the videos and I hope I can continue to keep it interesting for you.
@@nakedireland I just hope that one day, all people in Northern Ireland can find true peace, and live as one. The past is so painful. We are now in different times, all working people should support one another.
Great video . Hopefully the future is bright over there ❤❤❤
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it and I hope you’ll check out some other Naked Ireland videos?
Lovely programme you made here. Excellent production.. camera vision and music spot on. I pray for NI to continue evolving through "mostly peace." I know you guys still have your gray moments. I pay attention to what happens there. I was so gutted that Ireland almost won today 😢. My family name came from Ulster. ❤ yes, i subbed.👍Greetings from the southern Appalachians.
Many thanks for the lovely message, and yes, Ireland had a near miss last night in the Rugby - too bad. Thanks for watching.
Ireland itself is dying ..
More like Africa than Ireland😢
I don’t understand that remark, you’ll have to explain it to me.
You're not kidding. Belfast is a bloody shithole. Dregs of the third world smoking weed and stretching their benefits by delivering Just Eat and Deliveroo. The Botanic quarter (quite a nice spot in 2017) full of Roma beggars and homeless people.
It’s becoming a very wealthy nation
Mass immigration is destroying European countries. Some people welcome this. I personally think mass immigration is suicidal and people that believe in it should have no say whatsoever on how the said country should proceed.
Nice democratic way of thinking!
An odd one, I was in Hawick today, somewhere you wouldn't associate much with sectarianism, and a woman had The Sash as a ringtone and a house had Ulster flags on the wall. I always thought this was more of a thing on Clydeside.
That’s bizarre Glen! Thanks for your comment.
@@nakedireland Unusual as the Borders are mostly Protestant and I've not heard of this much. I wonder if these are people who have moved to Hawick from Glasgow and kept the traditionas going.
Could be Glenn, or perhaps they moved there directly from Belfast?
@@nakedireland They were Scottish, maybe not from Hawick. However, Hawick did vote no to independence, has a Conservative MP and is largely Protestant, so it could be more Orange than it looks.
To be honest Glenn, I’d never heard of Hawick before your comment.
It is inevitable just look at the average age of any orange march
Whilst we work and live in London we also have a smallholding in Cheshire and in Lancashire just to allow us to escape the city occasionally.The Cheshire area is full of Northern Irish with Lancahire not far behind. Where we live in London the Northern Irish "twang" is not as frequent as it used to be as the people have moved on to fresher pastures of Gloucestershire or Surrey.
Quite amusing to find so may having get togethers in each others houses and religion whilst recognised was really not an issue,just a common reality of having to move away for work as you were the wrong "social class" in Northern Ireland or more like NI was a stagnant place for technology then.
Thanks for your comment Maria - interesting hearing from you.
Great insight mate. It shows the tide is turning and if the loyalist community embrace it. The future could be a better place for all of us.
Thanks for your comment Thomas, and for watching. Hope you find some more Naked Ireland videos you like.
There is no village area once you go past tates avenue that's called tates avenue
This is great, as it's only a matter of time until we see craziness like in France the past couple of days. Magic!!!
Diversity is a disease.
Hello from West Cork. I'm enjoying your videos, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks a lot Con, I’ll keep em coming!
They should both more worry about African and Muslim imigrants Northern Ireland will soon be caled Al Khalifati Northern
Yawn
OMG! That Giant’s Causeway at 0:22 is on the Houses of the Holy Led Zeppelin album cover. 😳 I just recognized that.
Good vid, most of my experience of the Village was going to NI games & Irish League matches & cup finals with Coleraine. As Dylan said, the times they are a'changing...👍
Many thanks for watching.
Funnily enough I went to Windsor park with my darling In the 1960s. He was also a Coleraine man.❤
Definitely informative. Any video east Belfast?
Many thanks. Yes indeed, I have a video of the murals at the bottom of the Newtownards Road.
The one thing the video does, is makes you do is think. Even more so, if you were born in Belfast .; You cannot stop change , even if you want too.
I’m glad you feel it stimulates Andy, that’s the purpose. Thanks for watching and I hope you’ll check out some more Naked Ireland videos.
You’ve been earmarked for et hnic replacement,
Like all northwestern Europeans.
Why do loyalist use the red hand, as its the seal of the O Neil family and is it not Owen Row hand who was a leader of Catholic and was killed in a battle against the British. Like do they have some other lad who lost a hand or something because if its the same red hand we'll they are using a Irish Catholic rebel commander symbol.
1. Its not irish its Gaelic, anything Gaelic isnt indigenous to ireland. 2, it originated during pagan times, so it wasnt Catholic.
3, it wasnt rebel, Ireoand was mad eup of dozens of kigndoms society in Ireland was clan based.
There many factors at play in shift of voting - Sinn Fein with Gerry Adams often boycotted voting - so many Nationalist under reported and under represented. Of course the Nationalist also becoming majority over time and have cleverly adopted topics of immediate interests like jobs, healthcare etc and pushed absorption into Ireland out as more distant goal. Michelle O'Neill whether like her or not her politics she is shrewd leader even acknowledging mourning in Loyalist community when Queen Elizabeth passed.
I hope the peace lasts and all people see goal of tolerance. I like whole island of Ireland and wouldn't mind to live there since EU. But my favourite part of country is north coast near Ballycastle where I like weather and landscape.
The north of Ireland, particularly the north Antrim coast is certainly one of the jewels on the island of Ireland’s crown. Thanks for your comment and bless Ukraine!
I'm from Monaghan, I subscribed. It was an excellent informative video. Loved the Jazz in the background too haha!
Thanks so much AJ, glad you enjoyed and I hope you’ll find some other interesting Naked Ireland videos.
It's going to take a very brave loyalist to face up to the fact that he or she has been duped by The English over hundreds of years. The Loyalist community would have done well years ago if its leaders had accepted the olive branch extended to them by Gerry Adams who ried so hard to let them see that both factions had been manipulated by the English. The Catholic/Naktionalists/Republicans on the one side were brutalised whilst the Loyalists on the other treated like puppets.
The English did a superb job of dividing and ruling using religion to create a divide which also contained fear and privelege as its other main ingredients (amongst others).
Its time the Loyalists see The English for what they really are and have been. An aggressive race of cheats and liars that has caused so much trouble and heartache in the world. Get rid of them and live in peace in a united Ireland. You will be made more than welcome. Loyalists may hate Gerry Adams but one thing he said is so true. : "The English don't have friends. They have assets." They have never seen Loyalists as friends. Stop being an asset and get rif of them.
exactly I'm not a fan of JA but he was right about the British government it always used a divide and conquer stragitic the amount of men killed on both sides by BMI is staggering and then Boris Johnson gets the Ulster unionist to vote for Brexit with his lies and deceit all the false promises he made were renaiged on as soon as he got what he wanted and he then proceeded to throw arlien foster under the bus he basically destroyed her and her party's reputation but I think it showed the Ulster unionist people who their real enemy was it pulled back the curtains and showed them how the British government really thinks of them 😜😜😜 PEACE
true words of a raving bigot, firstly the English are not a 'race' however they modernized civilisation, we would all be living in clay huts otherwise, yes some methods they used were cruel and by todays standards completly wrong but there are also many positives including the abolition of slavery, you have to remember hundreds of years ago literally every country was formed out of some sort of violence, Britain pales into insignificance when it comes to inhumane treatment of others, look what the Spanish aided by the catholic church did to south america, they literally wiped out whole civilisations, Egyptians worked 1000s of slaves to death countries invaded other countries etc, the celtic people invaded ireland, my experience of English people is totally alien to the tripe you wrote were republicans have only ever demonised me, threatened me and hated me.
Excellent video .
Many thanks for watching it! I hope you’ll find some more interesting Naked Ireland videos.
All Irish peoples are irish Catholic protestant atheist Muslim indu man woman or both ,so enjoy Ireland and being irish. What happens anywhere else isn't important, The here and now is.
Thanks for your comment.
@nakedireland A pleasure. You've got a paradise Ireland going on there!!! Make sure you all enjoy it.❤️
Peace.
@@nakedireland Nobody can question that! It's the only answer people can give.
Nice video very instructive
Thanks so much Robert, I hope you’ll find some more Naked Ireland videos.
Think your Easter Lily is showing on this video. Genuinely, dont get your take. When Unionists don't accept people from outside their community they are knuckle dragging dinosaurs. Then when Unionists do accept people from outside their community it's because their culture is dead..BTW the other side off Tates Avenue is Olympia not the Village. Those new houses were meant to be affordable social housing for the young people in the area to buy the the developer put as high a speck as they could to get as much money as they could out off the houses and simply out priced a lot of younger residents from buying them, but there are plenty off Village born people in them.
Then you read direct from Connelly House to insinuate that Unionists are voting for Sinn fein..The Nationalist-Republican vote is the same now as it was in 1998..Just SDLP voters are now voting Sinn Fein. This is obviously an option piece which you are totally entitled to produce but at least make it obvious from the start..
Thanks for watching Mark, and for your comment, and the info on the high spec new Village houses. For the record, I wouldn’t dream of criticising the people of the Village for welcoming newcomers - I think it’s absolutely great. It’s so positive in fact. I think there was a genuine positivity about my film. My hope would be that loyalist and republican murals would eventually fade away (which they will in time) and that all of Belfast’s communities can be diverse and welcoming to all. The whole point of my film is that the Village demonstrates the start of that process.
Thanks for your reply. I felt there was a criticism of the people in the Village with the use of words like infamous..I will be honest I haven't watched all of your video's and stand corrected if you have done video's in nearby Catholic area's like st James and used words like Infamous..which I think would also be unfair to the St James resident's as there are plenty of people in both communities working hard to move everyone forward. These video's are seen all over the world and I sometimes wonder why the need to make out that one community ie PUL is on a downward spiral while another, CNR are in some way on the way up. Just thought the comments at the end about Republicans running belfast city Council didn't fit the intention of the video and have absolutely nothing to do the the Village. There was recently a council election and a local lady was voted in by among other areas the people in the Village. Just don't agree with the political comments on the video.
Good luck in the future with your channel.
That’s the whole point in putting it out there mark, to stimulate a bit of intelligent debate. Talking’s better than fighting about these things. Cheers for engaging.
Very interesting, would like to know more about Irish History.
Thanks Joanne.
I live in Belfast and have absolutely no interest in Northern Ireland, but when it comes to the north of Ireland, now there’s a place everyone adores.
Interesting comment, many thanks and thanks for watching.
so you adore Donegal then? Northern Ireland is adored by many though
Love Donegal!
A very gentle narration quite spoken tells of moving change slow unseen daily but over time huge my mother left Belfast in a blackout 1940 to take up a job in service in Limerick i m reminded daily of her courage North Vietnam would have been a better option at the but time has brought great change Good luck I enjoyed
Thanks Brendan, so glad you enjoyed it. I hope you'll find lots of other Naked Ireland videos to enjoy too. There's loads of them out there!
North men south men comrade's all
Nice positive comment. Thanks.
good video 😀
Many thanks for that. I hope you’ll find a few more Naked Ireland videos.
In a few generations, after a UI has well bedded in, Orange/Loyalist culture will be little more than an quirky Irish historic curiosity, not unlike Morris Dancing in England.
Could you be right?
A UI is as far away today as it ever was. 30 years time it may be possible, but even then it would rely on support from Unionist politicians.
You would have to wait for the passing of Unionist hardliners like Donaldson, Wilson, McAllister, et al. A UI cannot happen without Unionist backing.
The results of any future border poll or Referendum would be irrelevant. The two Governments would not force a UI on Unionists if they don’t support it.
Thanks Arthur, yes I think any border pole would probably have to return some sort of nationalist landslide for things to go that way. Though I guess democracy is democracy?
@@nakedireland a nationalist landslide in a border poll would be irrelevant. Even if all of the stars were aligned, a positive border poll in NI and a positive Referendum result in Ireland, this would still only lead to negotiations between the two Governments and all of the political parties in NI.
Unless the Unionist parties support a UI, then it is very unlikely that the two Governments would force unification on the Unionist communities.
I think if it goes to a referendum the result would need to be respected. I think we’ve just come through one such referendum where that argument was made constantly. Though I agree that if the result was marginal it would be difficult to enforce (I felt the same about Brexit though! )
I was offered a guided tour by a guy in Johnny Adairs local once of his estate, had to respectfully decline, I don't know how I'd feel looking at Murals that are there to Represent my Presence there is unwelcome!
Good idea not to go if you don’t feel comfortable Eddie.
@@nakedireland I'm a Southern "Taig" after all
I haven’t heard that word in years. Thankfully it’s not used that often these days!
@@nakedireland Doesn't mean anything to me, no idea why it Derogatory anyways as just shows ignorance of Loyalists about the names of the King's of Connaught, Hopefully in the Future we see a lot of these Murals evolve in to things more Representative of a shared Northern Irish Identity, that be enough Unity for this Taig anyhoo!
As a Protestant this gives me hope that the loyalist bigotry that has plagued these areas for decades is finally dying out.. A United Ireland is the only way forward.
Thanks for your comment John, and thanks for watching.
As a Republican I agree ,as long as Protestants are treated as full and equal citizens in a new Ireland.With the churches having no power.
Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching.
An inclusive non-sectarian Northern Ireland is the way forward and a significant section of the Catholic population would be more than happy with that in the short term at least. Don't think for one moment that a now Catholic majority in the North automatically translates into support for imminent Irish reunification. Nationalists are being a tad over-optimistic about the result of a referendum. More and more, especially amongst the young identify as 'other' rather than Unionist or Nationalist and see themselves primarily as Northern Irish rather than British or Irish. Anyhow, whatever the future, it has to be a peaceful and pluralist one putting to bed the bigotry of the past with equal citizenship for all and full rights to religious, political and cultural expression. A winner takes all triumphalism would be an abject disaster.
Thanks for such a well considered comment. And thanks for watching.
Those wee houses at 1:45 are gone now. Just a patch of grass. Doubt they'll build there as its pretty small.
Seeing my old car sitting there is funny.
Rent is cheap compared to rest of city and honestly - it's pretty quiet. Most activity I see is when kids knock the door asking for their ball.
More students around than ye think.
Great to have you’re input here, thanks for watching and commenting.
I a Catholic from Belgrade could I possibly be aloud to live there, I will open up a business and give Protestants work
You would be very very welcome.
They will cut off your conkers and winkle!
😂😂😂😂good luck!
the conflict here isn’t religious at all, it’s a matter of national identity specifically allegiance to ireland or britain, it’s like someone in kosovo having allegiance to either serbia or albania
the problem is I've just come back from Spain and a Hotel chain with 15 Hotels are aware of something. Whole families from Northern Ireland who have stayed in their Hotels since the 80s using British Passports are now going to the Hotels with Irish Passports And the Hotelier's are simply asking Why
I’m guessing that’s a Brexit one?
@@nakedireland it might as you said and might is the word be a Brexit thing but 40 years ago those Families would not have even dreamt of applying for an Irish Passport let alone travelling with one so i suspect there could be more than a grain of truth in what you've said but i don't think it is the whole story something else is at play here alongside your theory
Could be David. Thanks for watching and your contribution to the discussion. Always nice to here people’s views and experiences.
Applications for Irish passports from the north have sky rocketed post brexit. Much easier to get around Europe now than with a British one. They don’t mind identifying as Irish if it means they can skip a few queues 😁
@@corkboy4523 Spot on and travelling round Europe especially Airports if you have a British Passport you will be queuing and regardless of Travel insurance became Ireland is a fully respected member of the EU at a Hospital an Irish Passport Holder is automatically entitled to a level of treatment that since Brexit a British Passport Holder is Not and these are Facts. Thanks for your reply the points you mentioned are also true and correct
In reality I can honestly say that you’ll never see a catholic live or buy a property in the village area as for it losing its loyalism again it’ll never fall away as it’s youth are taught from the older generations and thus containing the loyalist to them , as for the nurses I do believe this is a small proportion in fact I know a few but these nurses are from the Philippines and don’t know the history , I do hope it becomes more inhabited by everyone because the houses are are attractive to the buyers .
Thanks for your comment. I think there’ll be no problem about it being inhabited - it’s becoming prime real estate!
What would be the average cost of a house? Decent looking area,vi might move up from Dublin. I love the rangers.
Hi Patrick, if you were serious about moving up you’d get a house in the Village for £100k
@@patrickglennon7058 well that would be the cheapest area in the city I’d say with a southern accent you’d fit right in living there lolol
Sevco Patrick , ah unless you are referring to Carrick rangers.
The Orange order shortened the marching route in Belfast because the age demographic of many are older and the route is too long and there are less marchers to fill out the parade.
Thanks for the comment, that seems to suggest indeed that loyalism is on the decline.
@@nakedireland Not true, over the last 25 years or so many young Loyalists decided not to join the loyal orders but instead join their local marching bands which are mostly seperate from the OO although there has been a small rise in numbers joining the OO and in fact a number of brand new lodges formed, dont under estimate the numbers, the annual sham fight at scarva boasts well over one hundred thousand people attending each year alone never mind all the other parades that day
So it’s stronger than ever then?
@@nakedireland marching bands have never been stronger, theres still a sizeable amount of people within the Loyal Orders but younger folk are more inclined to join a band than a Loyal Order thesedays
The only thing that is constant, is change.
Very true Phil. Thanks for watching.
If ireland wants to move forward everyone must be involved in the conversation not just catholic but protestant too and people of no faith
And Muslems …etc
Northern Ireland only came into being because actual anti democratic and so-called Ulster Covenant unionists refused to accept the democratic process in Westminster and the then perfectly legal UVF was founded to violently resist devotion, something that would be inconceivable when it was granted in Wales and Scotland.
And yet despite all of their crying about the injustices of war over the years, unionism is the biggest threat to democracy, peace and prosperity on the island of Ireland.
if partition hadnt have happened things would have been a lot worse for everyone, Partition was a compromise, Protestants compromised the vast majority of Ireland and catholics compromised a tiny part of ireland, you cant have it all your own way, there has to be compromise in life, the biggest threat to peace and democracy here is an ununited ireland
The prospect of a United Ireland will, for some, stir the echo of a certain big man (NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER). It's not happening any time soon, but at the same time, you can't say "never". After witnessing Martin McGuiness shaking the hand of HM Queen Elizabeth II, you can predict absolutely anything!
Time heals all wounds, they say.
Loyalist policies have less them nearly extinct, far more in common with their catholic neighbours than the foreign nationals flooding their areas. Shortsighted, narrowminded politics have led to the current situation.
If there is any loyalists watching this and are proud to be, could you explain to me in what way you're proud? Im not looking for an argument or anything like that, im genuinely interested in what it means to be a proud loyalist. Cheers.
I lived on Tates Avenue for a couple of years when I was a student at Queens University in Belfast, in the late '70s early '80s. The troubles were really bad at that time.
I followed Cliftonville FC, the only Republican side in the Irish football league.
When we played Linfield, I always had to walk down the bottom of Tates avenue to get on to Boucher road to meet the Cliftonville fans coming in from the Falls Road. We were then escorted into the Windsor Park stadium.
Scary times as I always hid my Cliftonville scarf whilst doing that. If caught, I definitely would have gotten badly beaten up as a Catholic Cliftonville fan, in a really Protestant/Loyalist area i.e. 'The Village'.
Thanks for your comment and for sharing your experience.
By 4 to 5 years it will be a united ireland. England has already taken a few steps back in terms of financial aid and now the Republic of Ireland are investing more and more. This is the starting process of a united ireland. And because of brexit it is speeding up the process. Sinn Fein is now the largest party both north and south and the main push is for uniting the country so is Fine Gael the second largest party in the south. The best chance loyalists had was the hope that the alliance party would not consider it. But last year the alliance party said there going to push for it too. So when the vote comes around in 4 to 5 years there will be 3 different democratic factions loyalists, republicans and the rest that see themselves as neither. We no what loyalists will vote same with republicans. but the rest that don’t identify as those too vote for alliance party. so that’s Sinn Fein and alliance voting for a united ireland and loyalist voting to stay in the uk. Did I mention the catholic community is the biggest in the north. I think we all no what way the votes are going to go
Many thanks for your comment. Two things: given the Brexit referendum fiasco, if a referendum did happen in at some point in the future, what would the question be? Something like: Should N. Ireland leave the UK and join the Republic of Ireland? (The question is important) And, what percentage voting to join the Republic do you feel would be workable?
@@nakedireland I think it should be promoted as not the north joining the south but Ireland as a whole unites. And be seen as just ireland. Dublin will be the capital. And the voting system should be fair. If majority in the north and south vote to unite then that’s a fair way to implement this. How do you think the voting system should look. This is a very important issue because it will happen in this decade.
Many thanks for this, always good to hear differing viewpoints.
@@nakedireland how do you think the voting system should work.
The same way as any referendum should work I guess, if that what you’re referring to? The key in a referendum is to be clear with the question, and to be very clear about what the outcome will mean prior to the pole.
We are all human live in peace and harmony and we live longer anger is like taking poison hoping the other guy will die
Thanks for watching and contributing Sean.
Aye it is. I blame the shocking pink Fiat 500 at 1.47
I am Greek and I love Ireland and its culture. I am totally unaware of what exactly sets residents of Ireland apart from each other and I honestly don't want to know. I've spent time in Cambridge,UK and my houselords were an Irish old couple who proved to be two of the most wonderful people I've ever met in my life. Their sons and daughters too,as also the other Irish people they associated with. After some time I met more and more Irish people, some of them coming from Belfast and we had such a good contact. To me, Irish people are among the best, indifferent which part of the island they come from. So are Scottish people too. Last,a question,were the Undertones of Teenage Kicks fame, from Belfast ??
The Undertones of Teenage Kicks fame were from Derry. Thanks for your lovely comment.
@@nakedireland Thnx for the answer my friend :-)
@@sirapos6550 my pleasure. Thanks for watching.
The times they are a changing 🎶🎸
In the times of the troubles, did people get out and walk those fells?
Did both sides have access to them?
Fells?
@@nakedireland fellls! Apologies. In Cumbria we refer to our mountains as Fells.
I see there are uplands beyond your city. Did people get to walk those mountains/fells.
In the mountains we are often more inclined to see our similarities as opposed to our differences, but could people walk amongst the hills?
Of course Jimmy, there are some beautiful walks in those hills, and yes, people have always gone there. We’re lucky to have the countryside so close!
Don't underestimate how many loyalists are still living in the village area!
Thanks for your comment.
@@nakedireland no worries, enjoyed watching the video, although it does come across as being nationalist biased.
@@edd-ci1qdUnionist paranoia! 😂
Surely you'd feel better living in Britain?
Squatters' rights ran out donkey years ago 😂
@@BatTaz19
Best tell that to the Irish ruling North America today then.
@@BatTaz19 just another comment from an irish republican showing its true bigoted colours
A grotty little video this
Referring the IFA as sectarian yet we look at the minority sport of GAA which even moderate unionists and Protestants find alien, sectarian and beset with terrorist affiliations
The village is changing but it’s due in part to the movement of PUL to areas such as greater east belfast
If anything this video demonstrates that main stream Protestantism sees loyalism for what it is - and disassociate with it, whereas the catholic community have no moral compass voting for a party married to terrorism and murder. Says it all really.
You make references to sectarianism in GAA and the Catholic community as having ‘no moral compass’. Can I remind you that this film is about changing demographics in the Village. It’s not about the GAA or indeed about catholics.
@@nakedireland so you’re ignoring facts.
On the contrary, I’m only putting the facts. I don’t have an opinion in Naked Ireland. The film is not about the GAA, neither is it about Catholics having ‘no moral compas’ (which is a sweeping sectarian statement that you might want to retract?). To repeat, this film is about changing demographics in the Village. If you want to comment about your disapproval of catholics or the GAA, I suggest you wait for an appropriate film to attach your dubious viewpoints.
Without even seeing this broadcast some of the points you make in the comment are wrong. There is indeed a democrahpic shift in this particular area but its caused by many factors such as the removal of older homes at a ratio of for every 3 homes removed a new one is built naturally changing the population of the area. This isn't consigned just to Loyalism through, the same has happened in the nearby 'Holylands' and Lower Ormeau Road, two areas in the 90s considered Nationalist now known for University student populations and young city workers with all but maybe a few signs of Nationalism gone. That same story is repeated over across all inner city areas of Belfast from Loyalist Sandy Row to the Republican Markets, or Loyalist Donegal Pass to Republican Lower York Street area. What you've done here is single out a Loyalist area that had changed much in 20 years but failed to look at the vast number of Republican areas that have dramatically changed too. Its also worth noting that the people who leave these areas go somewhere... they just don't disappear, there is of course no mention of the new Loyalist housing areas of the city.
Hi Simon, thanks for your response. The subject of the film is the demographic shift in the village and how that is reflected more widely in how people vote in Belfast. The fact is that our citizens now regularly return nationalist councillors - indicating, as the film shows, how this demographic shift is not confined to the Village but rather is reflective of the changing profile of the city. Nationalist are also being displaced, as you say, in Nationalist areas, but that doesn’t reflect a downturn in nationalist voting. I think this is what’s at the crux of the matter.
Thank you for another great view of changing Ireland. It's going be viewed with mixed opinions, that goes with out saying. All we can hope is that the changes taking place are for a better , healthy, and safer future. Thank you. I appreciate the care you take in this venture.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate your comment. Yes, it's a tricky subject and some will obviously feel strongly for or against. My own motive is just to ask the questions and offer a few facts. You're right positive change is what we want - what shape that takes I guess is up to those that vote? Thanks for watching.
@@nakedireland Calling Northern Ireland 'the north of Ireland' is done purely to annoy. Anyway - your Ma's your Da.💩
I think it's right to look at the general trends in the wider context as well.
In the ROI toxic nationalism has been steadily decreasing. When I was a young fella, every GAA or football match, every youth club trip, or school tour would finish with a bus ride with everyone singing rebel songs. My kids couldn't recite one of them today (and I'm glad). Pro-republican graffiti was everywhere. It's largely disappeared. Tri-colours hung alongside black flags all over when I was younger. I can't recall the last time I've seen that combination. The Catholic Church has seen an exodus in recent times, as has the Church of Ireland and the Church of England. So perhaps it's nationalism and our connection with traditional beliefs generally that's decreasing. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I have no love for the church or blind nationalism and I abhor violence so I'd like to see some healing happen between our communities where we can honour our shared history.
Thanks Dec for an interesting comment.
This video is focused on the Village area of Belfast but could be any area in Dublin, mass immigration is changing a lot of landscapes
Yes I guess it is, for the better or for the worse though?
Great video! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks Patrick, if you keep watching I’ll keep uploading!
@@nakedireland Deal!
I use to live in the Village. 58 Olympia Drive I remember my old neighbours Ernie and Liz. Wonderful area, Wonderful people.
Wonderful comment too James. I hope the film brought back nice memories.
@@nakedireland it certainly did. I am truly most grateful
Brilliant. Please feel free to check out some of my other videos, there’s loads! Hope you find something else interesting.
I lived in Kitchener street 20 years ago. I also had a neighbor called Liz who was well into her 70's back then. She'd lived in the Village her whole life. The Kitchener st. house being only the 3rd house she'd ever lived in. She couldn't remember the last time she'd been to the city centre but as a young girl liked to go to dances at the Orange hall in Sandy Row.
Amazing how some people lived back in the day. Thanks for sharing that Douglas
The island as a whole is known as Ireland! therefore like it or not they are Irish
Bit like saying the island as a whole is known as Britain therefore like it or not they're all British isn't John
@@christopherlynch9006 Yes, but what's your point. Ireland isn't in Britain.
@@christopherlynch9006eh, no it’s not, because the island is called Ireland, not Britain 🤪😆
No they're not. They are just on the wrong island.
Hi John, just a wee point to make. One island but two countries, Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. It's a bit like across the water where you have one island but three separate countries ie. England, Scotland and Wales each with their own nationalities, identities and culture. I know that I'm a Northern Irish protestant living in a country called Northern Ireland within part of the United Kingdom. You seem to base your point on land mass ... are you saying that the Scottish and Welsh people are really English, because England has a larger population and land mass?? Note, I wonder what any of the ancient people of this island, like the Cruthrin, would have called there home, long before any Gael arrived...???🤔
As someone living a 10 minute walk from Sandy Row, we can only hope.
It's inevitable. As bigotry, racism, xenophobia, homophobia and sexism become more unacceptable in society, 'loyalism' will have to change for the better or disappear completely.
Thanks for your comment.
I saw that video yesterday from Galway 7 blacks beating up a white guy ,90 percent of inter racial violence in the uk is on white people ,soon Ireland will be the same,and that boy walking his dog in Belfast few months got raped by 3 new Irish,and that guy from religion of peace got life last month for murder of 5 year old white girl in Northern Ireland
Grow up.
Good comment, very grown up.
@koeman1873 indeed, it seems desire for a better world of diversity and inclusivity is the preserve of the immature?
Let’s go for the 32
Live and drink in the clubs in the area ,its still very much a loyalist area , never met a catholic in any of the bars or clubs in my 15yrs living there 👌
@@Kevin-rd5qo no just no catholics live there or want to go into a loyalist bar , just exactly like the falls rd over the other side of the motorway i wldnt want to or feel comfortable in a republican bar or living there . U cant force integration on people if its not wanted , village is a place on the up and happy to live there , no more secterian than the falls , twinbrook poleglass, turflodge , whiterock ,across the rd 👍
Genuinely curious what would happen if you went into a catholic pub or lived in their areas?
@@williamarmstrong7836 loyalist areas are just as equally bitter as them ones you named, there is no difference
Worked in this area. You certainly knew what kind of politics they lived by.
Everything was fine for 10 months of the year but the hatred and bigotry ruled for the other two.
Their sense of humour is hard to beat. Really funny but also deadly if you happen to become a target.
Thanks for watching George and cheers for you comment.
What is a Loyalist?
A person loyal to the British Crown.
Great question! Never will be answered honestly though!
There appears to be a change / transition / dilution of traditional Loyalist culture and identity in some areas. However issues such as the flags dispute / legacy concerns / the threat of nationalist culture and the rise of political republicanism and then the protocol, mean it's very much still thriving.
Perhaps you’re right Leslie?
there is still hundreds of thousands attend Loyalist band parades and events collectively around NI, Dromore co down had an estimated 50,000 people attend the last Saturday parade a couple of weeks ago, Lisburn, Lougall, Larne, Moneymore and Artigarvan had similar amounts of people, Loyalism is far from diluted or dying
Very interesting and great to see others parts of Belfast(not only Shankill, Falls, Ardoyne..)
But I don’t think the music fits that very good.
Thanks for that, glad it was of interest. Sorry you feel that way about the music - some like it, some hate it!
Curious as to why everyone thinks a United Ireland is inevitable? Surely it could retrigger the troubles
It could. I guess it depends when it happens and what support there is for it. Thanks for watching Anthony.
@@nakedireland That was very interesting. If the political make-up of the island of Ireland changes it's for the people who live there to make those decisions. Having watched and read a lot of material on Ireland's history (boy is it addictive!) I think many people in Britain are being naive when they think a united Ireland is inevitable just because of some demographic changes. If unification does occur I think it'll be on a gradual basis, a bit like a cohabiting couple deciding to get married. My abiding memory of Northern Ireland is complete strangers being more than happy to talk to me, regardless of where I was; which rarely happens where I come from.
Glad your experience of Ireland was so positive Geoff. Thanks for your comment.
Why should it??? It will be down to a democratic vote! It is a democracy after all isn't it?
Demographic changes, Republican voting demographic is a lot younger. NI was set up as "a Protestant State for a Protestant people", Albeit religion doesn't take the limelight it used to, and it doesn't equal a political ideology, Catholics are the majority. A Republican Party is the biggest party in the state, although Unionist take the most seats combined.
I don't think it will be as soon as people say, but it's a definite possibility.