I just want to say thank you again for posting these They got me back into college Hopefully one day y'all will get the recognition you deserve I do my best to recommend it to everyone that may be interested I can't wait to listen to this at work
Perfect episode. I'd love to hear more about South Korea becoming a major military supplier. Additionally, I'd love to hear you guys do more indepth discussions about military games and war exercises
I still believe that an undersea tunnel/s is still not as far-fetched as people think. China is a very ambitious nation. I would not throw out the idea that they are cable of tunnelling under the straights. Maybe not "pick-a-boo" out of the ground. But more like a direct underground supply line after a rapid amphibious invasion. Tunnels that branch out in different key areas. Into open chinese owned farms or large industrial warehouses. England to france was once a dream. Now look. The allies didn't expect the allies to come through the Ardennes. The chinese are very capable and underestimating their capabilities, and willingness to achieve success is dangerous. We never thought ukraine could beat back the Russians. How many years have they been planning to retake Taiwan. Very dot point, but it gets to my point.
As much as I love this podcast y'all need to cut the 15-30sec skippable ads It sucks having to stop what I'm doing every 5 min to skip an ad that would never end if I didn't. Actually no not every 5 min every 2 min
55:10 So basically what I am hearing is... In order for Taiwan to successfully take on a Chinese military invasion, it would need to turn into one big radar scanning missile base with food supplies. This would need to occur before any hints of an invasion were to occur such as a blockade.
My interpretation is that they'd need the supplies before the war started. That would be after some signs of preparation (such as logistical buildup in nearby military ports), but before a potential blockade. In fact, a blockade might be taken as the first act of war.
radar need electricity. Taiwan does not have the ability to produce electricity independently due to their stupid government decision to shutdown nuclear powerplant in favor of gas that can be cut in time of war. I honestly don't believe the Taiwan government is interested in resisting PLA. it is doing everything in its power to weaken Taiwan's military position. such as ending 2 year conscription. allowing airforce pilot to break bond which mainland airline exploit by just paying the bond for those pilot and half of their airforce pilot is now in China. and ending the military court which mean enlistee can AWOL, and the army can't charge them, they are send to civilian court who just give them a fine... seriously think about the damage to morale if the guy next to you go AWOL and he just need to pay a fine... that's not an army that is build to fight, it an army build to win election, all the soldier will surely be voting for weak disciple... you cannot let politic enter the military, it will kill the disciple. so ya, Taiwan problem are human problem...
discussion on J20 vs F22 has some errors. F22 has worst avionics than J20, J20 has better command integration which was demonstrated by how they were able to use the J20 to intercept the F35, i don't think the J20 detected the F35, it was using external data to hunt it. the F22 avionic are VERY DATED, a few system from the F35 were borrowed and upgraded into the F22 but majority of it system is still 30 years old, because it really a waste of money to spend on software for a plane that is limited to 180, USAF choose to spend all it extra dollar improving the F35 which I think is the right call. the J20 has comparable sensors as the F35 as they were design to be strike capable, F22 wasn't design with these sensor remains a pure air-to-air fighter and they will be unlikely to receive an upgrade like the strike eagles did... and while the J20B will feature supercruise and supermaneuverability, it is correct to say the 200 existing J20 will lack these feature. but the F22 will never meet the J20 in combat... the F22 does not have the combat range to engage the J20, the J20 is a much larger plane design for the Asian battlefield where there are few airport and range is priority, the F22 was design for the european battlefield where there are many airport and performance is priority. so ideally US will be engaging J20 with F35 in a 2 to 1 advantage, assuming US is willing to risk it entire F35 fleet. regardless I feel that "stealth fighters" are oversold, J20, F22, F35 all can only carry 4 long range missiles. that is very limited airpower generation. you can rearm and refuel a Sukhoi or a F18 with 3 times the firepower in half the time it take for you to get a stealth fighter back in the fight. so the grunts are still doing most of the heavy lifting. this is why USAF was struggling with wanting more F15s in the last few years... sometime you need quantity of firepower, and stealth fighter do not give you quantity in pain. so all this J20 v F22 v F35 is cool, but they are not the deciding factor in war. what decide the contest is who can bring more missiles (and maybe drones) to the fight...
The economic position of China is greatly misunderstood. China is just getting started. this idea that the gap between China and Taiwan will widenly is a joke. 1400 million people vs 23 million, the average shanghaiese earn more than taiwanese and that is only going to widen. and demographic wise, Taiwan shrink faster than China! China still have a vast rural population that has 4 to 5 children. people are underestimating China, they incorrectly read the weak recovery to mean China is at an end, but if you look at savings, Chinese are growing richer this year, they just ain't spending because they know the coming years will get "interesting", and you want money in your pocket in interesting times. on the flip side, how many american has more money in the bank? then you will start to see the real picture. it a problem when China is growing at double the rate of US and the argument is China is "going into decline", if going into decline is to grow at double the rate of US than I want some of that decline for my country too. so pls, think about what you are really saying economically.
it would be incorrect to suggest China is sleepwalking into a war with Taiwan. they are already at war, Taiwan refuse to recognise the need for a peace treaty. the Chinese civil war need to end with the unification of China. else there will not be peace in the region. western action merely delay peace and should be oppose. we remember what the west did to Indonesia with East Timor and tried to do with Vietnam. maintaining a division like in Korea end up serving no one. unification is the only path Asian countries can take as that would stablise the region. we all have separatist issue domestically, this is a can of worms we Asian do not need open. even Japan should reconsider what it means when Okinawa governor start talking about autonomy. Does it really serve anyone interest to promote a change in status quo? Crimea is as self-rule as Taiwan is. yet the West refuse to recognise they are not a part of Ukraine. if the West understand how painful that is why separatism happens in Europe, how could it not understand how painful that is to Asian when it happens in Asia? the West can't demand territorial integrity for their own, and separatism for others... that is just not right. we are no longer your colonies. we can see the truth.
Hahaha. In a taiwan scenario, thinking CHINA, a country known for its ability to mass produce things. will run out of missiles, is rediculous. Its been a year in and Russia is still throwing waves and waves of missiles at ukraine on a regular basis. You don't think china would ramp up missile production dramatically and literally churn out missiles as fast as its shooting them off? we aren't talking about particularly advanced systems either, these would be 370mm GMLRS type missiles and guided glide bombs (since china would have air superiority over taiwan)
Agreed. The allies didnt win Ww2 because they were a superior combat fighting force or technology advanced. They won because of the US mass production industrial complex, self-reliance, superior home grown manufacturing with extensive resupply and resources. Russian didnt win because of their endless waves of men. They reached Berlin due to the endless supply ships of American made goods. Chinese is all of those things now. We are to busy off-sourcing all those capabilities to china. The west will not have a chance. Unless we stand on their neck right now. A bit more ammo
@@jongs11 If the west wants to meaningfully choke off the chinese economy to the point where military production is difficult. Right now, during peacetime. That would result in a catastrophic collapse in everyone's economies. Wester countries are already fighting a wave of far right uprisings who prey economic strife
51:00 was a hilarious and useful way to think about how close October 2026 really is. I can't believe content like this is free online; great stuff!
I just want to say thank you again for posting these
They got me back into college
Hopefully one day y'all will get the recognition you deserve I do my best to recommend it to everyone that may be interested
I can't wait to listen to this at work
Perfect episode. I'd love to hear more about South Korea becoming a major military supplier. Additionally, I'd love to hear you guys do more indepth discussions about military games and war exercises
Great show!
Good quality podcast
I still believe that an undersea tunnel/s is still not as far-fetched as people think.
China is a very ambitious nation. I would not throw out the idea that they are cable of tunnelling under the straights.
Maybe not "pick-a-boo" out of the ground. But more like a direct underground supply line after a rapid amphibious invasion.
Tunnels that branch out in different key areas. Into open chinese owned farms or large industrial warehouses.
England to france was once a dream. Now look.
The allies didn't expect the allies to come through the Ardennes.
The chinese are very capable and underestimating their capabilities, and willingness to achieve success is dangerous.
We never thought ukraine could beat back the Russians.
How many years have they been planning to retake Taiwan.
Very dot point, but it gets to my point.
As much as I love this podcast y'all need to cut the 15-30sec skippable ads
It sucks having to stop what I'm doing every 5 min to skip an ad that would never end if I didn't.
Actually no not every 5 min every 2 min
55:10 So basically what I am hearing is... In order for Taiwan to successfully take on a Chinese military invasion, it would need to turn into one big radar scanning missile base with food supplies. This would need to occur before any hints of an invasion were to occur such as a blockade.
My interpretation is that they'd need the supplies before the war started.
That would be after some signs of preparation (such as logistical buildup in nearby military ports), but before a potential blockade. In fact, a blockade might be taken as the first act of war.
@@simonteesdale9752 yeah yeah, you got it, that is what I was I thought about as well
radar need electricity. Taiwan does not have the ability to produce electricity independently due to their stupid government decision to shutdown nuclear powerplant in favor of gas that can be cut in time of war. I honestly don't believe the Taiwan government is interested in resisting PLA. it is doing everything in its power to weaken Taiwan's military position. such as ending 2 year conscription. allowing airforce pilot to break bond which mainland airline exploit by just paying the bond for those pilot and half of their airforce pilot is now in China. and ending the military court which mean enlistee can AWOL, and the army can't charge them, they are send to civilian court who just give them a fine... seriously think about the damage to morale if the guy next to you go AWOL and he just need to pay a fine... that's not an army that is build to fight, it an army build to win election, all the soldier will surely be voting for weak disciple... you cannot let politic enter the military, it will kill the disciple.
so ya, Taiwan problem are human problem...
discussion on J20 vs F22 has some errors. F22 has worst avionics than J20, J20 has better command integration which was demonstrated by how they were able to use the J20 to intercept the F35, i don't think the J20 detected the F35, it was using external data to hunt it. the F22 avionic are VERY DATED, a few system from the F35 were borrowed and upgraded into the F22 but majority of it system is still 30 years old, because it really a waste of money to spend on software for a plane that is limited to 180, USAF choose to spend all it extra dollar improving the F35 which I think is the right call. the J20 has comparable sensors as the F35 as they were design to be strike capable, F22 wasn't design with these sensor remains a pure air-to-air fighter and they will be unlikely to receive an upgrade like the strike eagles did... and while the J20B will feature supercruise and supermaneuverability, it is correct to say the 200 existing J20 will lack these feature. but the F22 will never meet the J20 in combat... the F22 does not have the combat range to engage the J20, the J20 is a much larger plane design for the Asian battlefield where there are few airport and range is priority, the F22 was design for the european battlefield where there are many airport and performance is priority. so ideally US will be engaging J20 with F35 in a 2 to 1 advantage, assuming US is willing to risk it entire F35 fleet.
regardless I feel that "stealth fighters" are oversold, J20, F22, F35 all can only carry 4 long range missiles. that is very limited airpower generation. you can rearm and refuel a Sukhoi or a F18 with 3 times the firepower in half the time it take for you to get a stealth fighter back in the fight. so the grunts are still doing most of the heavy lifting. this is why USAF was struggling with wanting more F15s in the last few years... sometime you need quantity of firepower, and stealth fighter do not give you quantity in pain. so all this J20 v F22 v F35 is cool, but they are not the deciding factor in war. what decide the contest is who can bring more missiles (and maybe drones) to the fight...
The economic position of China is greatly misunderstood. China is just getting started. this idea that the gap between China and Taiwan will widenly is a joke. 1400 million people vs 23 million, the average shanghaiese earn more than taiwanese and that is only going to widen. and demographic wise, Taiwan shrink faster than China! China still have a vast rural population that has 4 to 5 children. people are underestimating China, they incorrectly read the weak recovery to mean China is at an end, but if you look at savings, Chinese are growing richer this year, they just ain't spending because they know the coming years will get "interesting", and you want money in your pocket in interesting times. on the flip side, how many american has more money in the bank? then you will start to see the real picture.
it a problem when China is growing at double the rate of US and the argument is China is "going into decline", if going into decline is to grow at double the rate of US than I want some of that decline for my country too. so pls, think about what you are really saying economically.
it would be incorrect to suggest China is sleepwalking into a war with Taiwan. they are already at war, Taiwan refuse to recognise the need for a peace treaty. the Chinese civil war need to end with the unification of China. else there will not be peace in the region. western action merely delay peace and should be oppose. we remember what the west did to Indonesia with East Timor and tried to do with Vietnam. maintaining a division like in Korea end up serving no one. unification is the only path Asian countries can take as that would stablise the region. we all have separatist issue domestically, this is a can of worms we Asian do not need open. even Japan should reconsider what it means when Okinawa governor start talking about autonomy. Does it really serve anyone interest to promote a change in status quo?
Crimea is as self-rule as Taiwan is. yet the West refuse to recognise they are not a part of Ukraine. if the West understand how painful that is why separatism happens in Europe, how could it not understand how painful that is to Asian when it happens in Asia? the West can't demand territorial integrity for their own, and separatism for others... that is just not right. we are no longer your colonies. we can see the truth.
Hahaha. In a taiwan scenario, thinking CHINA, a country known for its ability to mass produce things. will run out of missiles, is rediculous. Its been a year in and Russia is still throwing waves and waves of missiles at ukraine on a regular basis. You don't think china would ramp up missile production dramatically and literally churn out missiles as fast as its shooting them off?
we aren't talking about particularly advanced systems either, these would be 370mm GMLRS type missiles and guided glide bombs (since china would have air superiority over taiwan)
Agreed.
The allies didnt win Ww2 because they were a superior combat fighting force or technology advanced.
They won because of the US mass production industrial complex, self-reliance, superior home grown manufacturing with extensive resupply and resources.
Russian didnt win because of their endless waves of men. They reached Berlin due to the endless supply ships of American made goods.
Chinese is all of those things now.
We are to busy off-sourcing all those capabilities to china.
The west will not have a chance. Unless we stand on their neck right now.
A bit more ammo
@@jongs11 If the west wants to meaningfully choke off the chinese economy to the point where military production is difficult. Right now, during peacetime. That would result in a catastrophic collapse in everyone's economies.
Wester countries are already fighting a wave of far right uprisings who prey economic strife