The horses face in the beginning was like "Oh man your really doing this? Alright fine Im going to stand here and pretend I don't know your crazy butt"
Amazing horse. There is absolutely no cruelty here. Well trained horse and a very good rider! Believe me, if this horse did not want to do this, it wouldn't. Good fun! My horse rides to the sound of bagpipes and if he doesn't like a rider they are soon off his back!
Dave Desmond Actually plenty of horses do things they don't want to do to fear. They get riders they don't like and perform things that are even painful. While I don't think this rider is cruel I certainly hate it when people ignorantly say horses never do anything they don't want to do. It's a ridiculous lie that has been proven obviously false.
Mei-Xing Pen You have not read my comment in context. I have made comments about the video not about other horse trainers. I also do not appreciate being referred to as ignorant. I own two beautiful, gentle horses and I never MAKE them do anything through fear. All I do is ask and they try their best for me. There are people out there who consider themselves to be horse trainers and they are nothing but idiots who muck about with a horse's brain. I have total respect for these animals and no respect for idiots.
Mei-Xing Pen Trainers who train through fear and abuse- at least in the performance aspect usually don't last very long I had plenty of horse come to me from owners and trainers to get the horses "brains put back in" because of some of the forced abusive training they used, and halter (lead and feed trainers tend to be the worse abusers not the performance horse trainers because at some point the horse will "break" flip out run off just become so uncooperative at the most inconvenient time that will show others that the trainer does have a problem. This horse executes excellent spin and flying lead changes all in a relaxed manner. look at the ears head posture and neck tension to see how stressed a horse is. a gaping moth and tail position (especially in Arabs is a great indicator to) Mei How may horses have you trained in your life? How many different breeds? how many disciplines? are you a licensed judge. Don't judge unless you have actually been in the business. I HAVE been there as a trainer of Appys, Quarter horses, BLM mustangs, Thoroughbreds, Standardbreds, Saddlebreds (even 5 gaited) Tennessee Walkers, Morgans but my favorite was Arabians and bred showed raced, trained and was a licensed Arabian judge for years until I was hit by a truck while horseback riding and nearly killed- my imported mare was killed. Read or see the "The Horse Whisperer"? that is basically my life as rider mother victim and a trainer. I became a judge because of what I heard as constant complaints of politics and abuse in the show ring to find out the truth and try to do something to fix the system. if you don't like what is going on in an industry like this get INVOLVED and help fix it. I did a hell of a lot prior to my accident and a bit even after with the info I gathered. Don't bitch and complain do something that enacts change within organizations if you don't like what yo see. and yes there was a lot of politics- it was the reason the Judges commissioners office was created unfortunately the first one to hold the job had the ethics of snail turds, but he had to migrate from that job... :-) to FE
So glad I was able to see this in person! :) Can't believe he got disqualified, but I talked to him after and he said he didn't complete the right amount of spins.
This horse is NOT abused. You see when the man stands up and almost falls and the saddle slides? That horse did not move once. He trusts his rider. You see when the man is bouncin around in the saddle? His horse is still listening to him and still doing as told. If this horse didnt want to do it, he wouldnt have. That horse could have easily taken off when the saddle started to slide but didnt. This horse is talented enough and trained well enough to ignore all the lights, the music, the crazy rider, and the crowed. i doubt abuse has anything to do with it.
+Ariel Bryant If you would know HOW western horses are trained, you would shut up. They are trained not to budge. They are afraid to move just one centimeter. Maybe you know about the training methods and don't fess up ;)
Stop saying he is such a bad rider and I feel so bad for that horse! he is a very well trained rider and knows what he is doing ok! and if that horse did not want to do that trust me he wouldn't
+suploverAJ Haha, yeah they are all soooooo good and senstive riders like Mr Schmersal and Mr Shaffer :D They all know what they are doing ;) That's the problem.
suploverAJ what people seem to forgot that is, of there is something a horse doesn't want to do, they won't do it, simple as that. Some may do it for treats or just to make you happy (like my gelding) and others won't do it at all. Much like humans
To the people below my comments box. All tack can be damaging, even the simplest bitless bridle in the wrong hands. English tack is not designed to keep the mouth closed, and when correctly fitted, aids to distribute pressure in the head. Not to mention, advanced english riding requires little use of the bridle, except by means of refining an aid in advanced disciplines. You cannot tar a whole genre of riding, just because you may have seen a few bad eggs. All forms of riding disciplines have their positives and negatives, but I will happily defend mine if it helps clarify any misunderstandings. I have a cob who I share a terrific relationship with; I have had him 13 years and he has done anything and everything. Needless to say, I am an English style rider. When he is properly worked, his back carries his weight so he can perform to his fullest in schooling, the aim with advanced english riding/ dressage depending on how far you take it and not your general happy hackers, is to get the horse to carry his weight, so that they do not develop a 'U' shape in their outline, which can cause more damage than getting them to engage their topline. Horses are encouraged to flex laterally as well to increase suppleness. It is not something that can be achieved in a night, like body builders, it takes time, patience and correct riding to get to that goal. Western is completely different all together in that the saddle is fitted less tightly (I guess is a way of putting it) allowing more free flow as it helped cattle driving and all that jazz in the past. It is again a completely different discipline. The aim for western is completely different from english. So this whole war between english vs western is irrelevant. English and jumping is a different discipline. There are different saddle types to accommodate different horses, simply because they are in a different discipline and it benefits those disciplines for their individual reasons. I can ride my horse, bare back in a field, holding onto a lock of mane if I wanted to. It's all about what you do, not what gadgets you use and don't use. They all fit their intended purpose. So stop this war!
***** Try a regional champion hunter, 3rf leve dressage mare multi regional halter champion that is also 6 times National top Ten western pleasure and multi champion reining horse-- Arab mare being collected, engaged, bending, flexing , supple, doing lateral movements isn't just for English, or Dressage- ll forms benefit from it and the great western trainers KNOW this and teach this to their horses- you see it in the top trainers winners at least in the Arabian and Morgan breeds Western pleasure Quarter horses & Paints tend to be all strung out and as a result their back and legs go to crap at younger ages so they aren't showing at 25+ years old when you still see Arabs showing and even winning at nationals.
I cannot remember what my argument was, but I certainly agree with what you are saying and support all disciplines. I think I was defending dressage, when others were perhaps targeting it? I am not sure as my comment is nearly a year old ; )
+CaffCaff Averill "English tack is not designed to keep the mouth closed" (that's what you said)........and yes you are referencing dressage? Well what is the function of a caveson, or a crank noseband, or a figure 8? I ride dressage as well, and I love it. But really either you are clueless as to the function these pieces of tack serve or you are just in la la land. ALL of the pieces of tack I just named are staples of dressage and are seen in the lowest to highest levels of competition.
+abby killienih thanks for the message, but I think you misunderstood my comment. I am talking as a whole, that tack in dressage is not what it is perceived as, whilst some people may use those for whatever reason, whether they understand their use or not, you are completely right. I'm just saying that from an English riders vantage point, I don't clamp my horse's mouth shut with a grackle, I don't have thick bits with lozenges that keep the tongue from fighting the bit. to anyone who has witnessed overly tacked up dressage horses, I ask them not to judge a discipline by those who over tack their horses. Though I do like being in lala land.
I don't know about horse abuse, but this video is awesome. About 30 seconds into this video my head was bobbing before I noticed. It wasn't on purpose.
WOW :-) !!!! DASS BESTE FREESTYLE REINING - WAS ICH JE GESEHEN HABEN. :-) 5 STERNE !!!! RESPEKT AN DEN REITER UND DASS WUNDERSCHÖNE UND SUPER REINING HORSE :-) !!! LIEBE GRÜßE AUS NIRDERBAYERN :-* !!!!
This is too good!! Horse loves his job, the rider is having fun and it looks like nthe horse is as well....I just have one thing wrong....the riders needs acting lessons. Lol acting drunk didnt really work out to well for him!
it does! you are actually right! when its ears go back it is listening to commands and listening to what is going on. Not is it just the ears how you can tell it is happy but its body language and it looks happy. :) I am not sure if you were being sarcastic or not.
@@janmeyer3129 Different ear posture. A horse about to bite is *pinning* its ears back, tight and flat to the head. A dog with pricked ears or cat will do the same, flattening the ears back against the skull, probably as a means of protecting them if they are anticipating a return bite. A horse like this one, who is relaxed and paying attention both to its rider and its surroundings, will tip their ears back so that the ear is more facing toward the thing its paying attention to, with the ears relaxed and even sometimes drooping a little.
Die Leute die keine Ahnung vom Westernreiten haben sollten sich hier raushalten.Das ist keine Tierquälerei,das ist Westernsport. Und wenn es dem Pferd wehtuen würde,würde es nicht so fleißig mitmachen.Die Stops und die Spins sind einfach der Hammer!!!!!!
+Jette Heering Es gibt hier Leute die Ahnung haben und diesen "Sport" gerade aus diesem Grund ablehnen ;) Wenn Rollkur wehtun würde, würden die Pferde auch nicht so fleissig mitmachen und Medaillen holen - oder? Kinders - die Pferde machen gerade mit WEIL es wehtut. Sie werden mit negativer Verstärkung (Meideverhalten) trainiert; Du erzeugst Druck/Schmerz und das Pferd reagiert damit das unangenehme Gefühl nachlässt. Bitte informiere Dich und komme mit echten Argumenten zurück...
+Manuela Meinhardis Du gehörst eindeutig zu denn Leuten, die davon absolut keine Ahnung haben.Also wenn du nicht einen qualifizierteren Kommentar auf Lager hast,würde ich dir empfehlen deine inkompetenten, unqualifizierten und absolut schwachsinigen Kommentare zu unterlassen. Dankeschön! !!!!!!
Jette Heering Den Gefallen kann ich Dir leider nicht tun. Was machst Du mit Sporen, Gebiss und Co.? Wie setzt du sie als positive Verstärkung ein? Oder clickerst Du? Kannst Du etwas Inhaltliches liefern statt Beleidigungen? Würde mich freuen.
+Manuela Meinhardis Ich benutze auch Bits.Aber ich nutze sie mit Verstand und mit Vorsicht,damit ich meinem Pferd keine Verletzungen zufüge. Ausserdem ist MEIN Pferd so sensibel ausgebildet,dass es meine Stimmkommandos und Gewichtsverlagerungen versteht und ich habe seine ausbildung ohne sporen und "hartes" Gebiss gemacht. Es muss nicht immer alles mit Gewalt dem Pferd begebracht werden,so wie du es hier beschrieben hast.Jedenfalls geht es im Westernsport auch anders.
shg stewart not dressage, reining. He did great actually. Very nice routine. Dressage is don't in English not western, and doesn't tend to have galloping in it. But yeah, I'd like to see a dressage version too xD
An alle die hier sagen "Würde das Pferd nicht wollen würde es nicht mitmachen" das ist das gleiche Argument das Dompteure im Zirkus benutzen. Es ist Schwachsinn. Abgesehen davon ist es allerdings auch Schwachsinn hier so zu tun als wüsste man, wie das Pferd sich fühlt, keiner von uns weiß wie es trainiert und behandelt wird, daher können wir uns auch kein Urteil anmaßen. Bleibt realistish bitte.
When my friends say I can't ride good enough I will show then this me and my horse lylack have been working on this for a year and she all most has it she just needs to get used to me and the trampoline 😊
You shouldn't jump into the saddle... Its hard on a horses back and can cause the horse to end up with sway back. It can also damage nerves, the spine.
crane catcher A sway back is caused by genetics or the muscle being stressed to much that it "give out" Mares that are bred to much get it, horses that don't have their saddles places properly can get it, and horses with riders that bounce to harshly can get it. I have done my research, thank you very much.
that horse almost fell from him making an immediate stop and the only reason the horse went fast was because he was wearing spers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gabriella Goodwin No. He has large, blunt Spurs which won't hurt the horse as much as normal, smaller Spurs would. Either way, the horse must need Spurs, because if he didn't, he wouldn't use them. :)
@@karolinapilarek1371 I'd love to get a time-stamp of where you see this "kicking the horse with spurs." I saw no signs of kicking, and in fact very seldom saw him turn his heels inward, in the way that one would have to in order to bring the spurs to bear.
Ich glaube das das Pferd nicht misshandelt wird.Seht ihr eine Gerte womit er geschlagen wird? Ja er hat Sporen an und ich mag,Sporen auch nicht.Und diese Pferde 🐴 sind Musik 🎶 gewohnt.!!
The bridle isnt abusing its just how hard the rider pulls on their reins and how big the bit is but these horses are so trained that the rider doesn't need to use their reins that much
The bridle isnt abusing its just how hard the rider pulls on their reins and how big the bit is but these horses are so trained that the rider doesn't need to use their reins that much
A properly fitted bridle with an appropriate bit for the horse is far from cruel, particularly if the rider isn't cranking back on the reins. It doesn't matter whether it's an English-style or Western-style bridle, so long as it's neither too loose (leaving the bit to clank against the horse's front teeth), or too tight (pulling at and pinching the corners of the horse's mouth), if the bit's right, then you don't have to do much to make the horse respond. Each horse is different, and therefore each horse requires a different bit, or sometimes none at all. I've ridden horses that had such a "soft" mouth that they needed a snaffle or even a bitless hackamore, and others who took a curb bit that provided more leverage, which in turn means you actually pull *less* to get the same response. It's all in how the *rider* handles it, not in the bridle itself. Also, if you watch, this guy is barely using the reins except for turning the horse's head slightly when they're getting ready to do the spins. On the sliding stops, it's very clear that he's applying very little pressure with the reins, and is doing the lion's share of the cue via his seat and weight. You can see him actively sink himself down, slacking his body down into his pelvis and bringing his shoulders back, which is just as common a cue for a horse to come to a stop as pulling the reins, when he does them, while his reining hand actually stays low and forward along the horse's neck, giving it plenty of slack.
Violet Willems actually, I ride a few different disciplines (cutting, roping, & reined cowhorse, etc) plus I have a ranch that still uses horses as their main transportation. So, you tell me if I know how to ride or not.
Ruger RN well, i assume that you can't, because if you rode better, you would cheer on someone whos trying to become as good as you say you are At least, i would
The horse seems very happy! I could imagine my best friend doing something like this with her big paint, and every time she starts doing dumb stuff he has this look of disappointment on his face like " yes this is my mom, and yes, she is a retard"!😂
What's that old adage? Better to keep your mouth shut, than to open it and let everyone know how ignorant you are? You should remember that next time, Kelly.
Reining ist für ein Westernpferd ja normal und es hatte auch genug Schutz an den Beinen. Ich finde es allerdings sehr bedenkenswert in den Sattel zu springen. Das kann Schäden verursachen und tut dem Pferd weh. Wer mir das nicht glauben will kann sich ja selbst mal auf alle Viere stellen und einen Freund oder so auf seinen Rücken springen lassen... Ist eher unschön. Außerdem sitzt der Typ ziemlich schief im Sattel...
don't really understand what all the fuss is about... hes sitting.. IN a saddle.. riding in circles... if you are an avid horse rider that is NOT hard... take the saddle off, lose the bridal, and do some sort of dressage with the horse... and then it would be worth watching
Little late here (curse the algorithm :P), but looking at it, those spurs aren't much. The rowel on them looks to be the common blunt-tipped sort, and spurs are frequently used in reining to make it easier to hide/keep subtle the signals the rider is giving the horse with their legs. IIRC, that's often a factor in the judging: can the judges see you cueing the horse blatantly, or does it look like they go through the routine without the rider needing to make big, clear signals. Spurs aren't meant to cause harm, they just help to get the message across when used properly. I mean, the student stable I learned to ride at had kids as young as five learning how to use spurs, because even on the smaller horses, these kids were so tiny that their little legs weren't able to exert enough force to easily cue the horses to switch gaits, and not a one of the horses ever showed distress at this. I even had a pair of spurs just like these, and I pulled them off of the boots by wrapping my hand around the rowel and gripping, with no harm ever done to my soft skin, let alone to the sturdier hide of a horse.
W T F!!??!! In my opinion, this "performance" (cough) does not demonstrate good horsemanship nor does this highlight the horse's talents. I cringed repeatedly. The routine looked like it was hastily thrown together at the last moment. Dude needs to take more riding lessons or something because when I can see repeated spur jabbing, the rider is doing something wrong.
ich mag western allgemein schon nicht sehr gerne aber bei sowas weiß ich auch warum! Alleine schon wo sie sich das erste mal drehen sieht man, dass dem Pferd schwindelig ist und es zur Seite weg schwankt...
Bless those nice Quarter Horses for putting up with those riders with their huge shank bits, big ass spurs, jabbing, arms flailing around, etc. Yikes. A little grace and less yahooing around would be much more impressive. Beautiful horse though!
We can't all be prim and proper English riders :) Western horses are bred and trained to be well mannered and put up with all types of movement, especially if they're actually being used for work out in the real world.
I maybe could do this with my horse but if anyone else tries to even get near him you would get bit and if you tried to get on from behind you would get kicked
Ganz ehrlich: ist scheiße für das Pferd... Allein schon wegen der Musik. Aber dazu kommt ja auch noch dieses rumgehampel auf seinem Rücken dazu. Glückliche Pferde sehen definitiv anders aus. Schlaue Leute würden das erkennen sprich schon bei der ersten Drehung sehen, dass das Pferd zur Seite weg schwankt weil das alles andere als ne natürliche Bewegung ist!
He's performing reining, actually. It's a type of Western-style competitive riding that focuses on things like the high-speed spins he was performing, the flying change figure-8s (a horse at a lope/canter or gallop leads with the leg to the inside of the arc when moving in a circle, and must therefore switch leading legs "on the fly" or in mid-stride when going into the second circle of the figure-8), sliding stops and backing up, side-passing (the parts where the horse sidestepped, crossing its legs across one-another), and other such controlled movements. In competition, such as here, you're further usually judged on how little you signal the horse, whether with reins, legs, or seat, and how smoothly the horse makes its changes or how fast it can shift between different skills on display.
The horse has been specially trained to do this! If the horse didn't want to do it, you would know, coz I trained my horse but she didn't want to do it so she reared, bucked and threw me off! The horse in this video is LOVING the attention and the show. I hate people that comment things like ' Poor horse.' ' That's animal cruelty.' 'How could people like this?!' I just HATE it!
+Eloise Willsby Maybe you hate this Kind of posts :D And maybe the horse hates "training". Please learn about behavioral biology, body language and facial expression of horses. Thanks al lot. Using horses do not make you an expert - quite the opposite: in this case you are obviously routine-blinded.
Tracy Hawks Yep. I've worked at a reining horse breeding and training facility. They are anything but abused.... Heck, I wish I had that kind of care lol.
The horses face in the beginning was like "Oh man your really doing this? Alright fine Im going to stand here and pretend I don't know your crazy butt"
This horse is a beautiful mover! I hope he got plenty of snacks and neck rubs after this!
me too
Amazing horse. There is absolutely no cruelty here. Well trained horse and a very good rider! Believe me, if this horse did not want to do this, it wouldn't. Good fun! My horse rides to the sound of bagpipes and if he doesn't like a rider they are soon off his back!
Dave Desmond Actually plenty of horses do things they don't want to do to fear. They get riders they don't like and perform things that are even painful. While I don't think this rider is cruel I certainly hate it when people ignorantly say horses never do anything they don't want to do. It's a ridiculous lie that has been proven obviously false.
Mei-Xing Pen You have not read my comment in context. I have made comments about the video not about other horse trainers. I also do not appreciate being referred to as ignorant. I own two beautiful, gentle horses and I never MAKE them do anything through fear. All I do is ask and they try their best for me. There are people out there who consider themselves to be horse trainers and they are nothing but idiots who muck about with a horse's brain. I have total respect for these animals and no respect for idiots.
Mei-Xing Pen Trainers who train through fear and abuse- at least in the performance aspect usually don't last very long I had plenty of horse come to me from owners and trainers to get the horses "brains put back in" because of some of the forced abusive training they used, and halter (lead and feed trainers tend to be the worse abusers not the performance horse trainers because at some point the horse will "break" flip out run off just become so uncooperative at the most inconvenient time that will show others that the trainer does have a problem. This horse executes excellent spin and flying lead changes all in a relaxed manner. look at the ears head posture and neck tension to see how stressed a horse is. a gaping moth and tail position (especially in Arabs is a great indicator to)
Mei How may horses have you trained in your life? How many different breeds? how many disciplines? are you a licensed judge. Don't judge unless you have actually been in the business. I HAVE been there as a trainer of Appys, Quarter horses, BLM mustangs, Thoroughbreds, Standardbreds, Saddlebreds (even 5 gaited) Tennessee Walkers, Morgans but my favorite was Arabians and bred showed raced, trained and was a licensed Arabian judge for years until I was hit by a truck while horseback riding and nearly killed- my imported mare was killed. Read or see the "The Horse Whisperer"? that is basically my life as rider mother victim and a trainer.
I became a judge because of what I heard as constant complaints of politics and abuse in the show ring to find out the truth and try to do something to fix the system. if you don't like what is going on in an industry like this get INVOLVED and help fix it. I did a hell of a lot prior to my accident and a bit even after with the info I gathered. Don't bitch and complain do something that enacts change within organizations if you don't like what yo see. and yes there was a lot of politics- it was the reason the Judges commissioners office was created unfortunately the first one to hold the job had the ethics of snail turds, but he had to migrate from that job... :-) to FE
Yes this was amazing,and that is a very beautiful horse!,But was it just me,or was his cinch really loose?
There is absolutely no knowledge of horses on your part!
This really shows how solid a reining horses mind is. Fabulous, and friggin hilarious! I love reining!
I loved it! I loved when he'd spin the horse around! OMG so much fun! Thanks for uploading!
So glad I was able to see this in person! :) Can't believe he got disqualified, but I talked to him after and he said he didn't complete the right amount of spins.
This horse is NOT abused. You see when the man stands up and almost falls and the saddle slides? That horse did not move once. He trusts his rider. You see when the man is bouncin around in the saddle? His horse is still listening to him and still doing as told. If this horse didnt want to do it, he wouldnt have. That horse could have easily taken off when the saddle started to slide but didnt. This horse is talented enough and trained well enough to ignore all the lights, the music, the crazy rider, and the crowed. i doubt abuse has anything to do with it.
+Ariel Bryant If you would know HOW western horses are trained, you would shut up. They are trained not to budge. They are afraid to move just one centimeter. Maybe you know about the training methods and don't fess up ;)
That horse... he was so in sync when running to the beat of the music... it was just so on beat that it was satisfying...
Nice performance ;) The horse and rider were having fun
I don't know why...but it seems like cowboys being goofy is like my guilty pleasure....they're always such hams. Makes me smile
The horse was cool. The guy...?
awesome flying lead changes! fabulous horse!!!
Stop saying he is such a bad rider and I feel so bad for that horse! he is a very well trained rider and knows what he is doing ok! and if that horse did not want to do that trust me he wouldn't
suploverAJ Who is the rider? I don't think it mentions the rider's name or the horse's name.
+Christopher Duganberry His name is Aaron Ralston.
+suploverAJ Haha, yeah they are all soooooo good and senstive riders like Mr Schmersal and Mr Shaffer :D They all know what they are doing ;) That's the problem.
suploverAJ what people seem to forgot that is, of there is something a horse doesn't want to do, they won't do it, simple as that. Some may do it for treats or just to make you happy (like my gelding) and others won't do it at all. Much like humans
Stunning horse !
To the people below my comments box. All tack can be damaging, even the simplest bitless bridle in the wrong hands. English tack is not designed to keep the mouth closed, and when correctly fitted, aids to distribute pressure in the head. Not to mention, advanced english riding requires little use of the bridle, except by means of refining an aid in advanced disciplines. You cannot tar a whole genre of riding, just because you may have seen a few bad eggs. All forms of riding disciplines have their positives and negatives, but I will happily defend mine if it helps clarify any misunderstandings. I have a cob who I share a terrific relationship with; I have had him 13 years and he has done anything and everything. Needless to say, I am an English style rider. When he is properly worked, his back carries his weight so he can perform to his fullest in schooling, the aim with advanced english riding/ dressage depending on how far you take it and not your general happy hackers, is to get the horse to carry his weight, so that they do not develop a 'U' shape in their outline, which can cause more damage than getting them to engage their topline. Horses are encouraged to flex laterally as well to increase suppleness. It is not something that can be achieved in a night, like body builders, it takes time, patience and correct riding to get to that goal. Western is completely different all together in that the saddle is fitted less tightly (I guess is a way of putting it) allowing more free flow as it helped cattle driving and all that jazz in the past. It is again a completely different discipline. The aim for western is completely different from english. So this whole war between english vs western is irrelevant. English and jumping is a different discipline. There are different saddle types to accommodate different horses, simply because they are in a different discipline and it benefits those disciplines for their individual reasons. I can ride my horse, bare back in a field, holding onto a lock of mane if I wanted to. It's all about what you do, not what gadgets you use and don't use. They all fit their intended purpose. So stop this war!
***** Try a regional champion hunter, 3rf leve dressage mare multi regional halter champion that is also 6 times National top Ten western pleasure and multi champion reining horse-- Arab mare being collected, engaged, bending, flexing , supple, doing lateral movements isn't just for English, or Dressage- ll forms benefit from it and the great western trainers KNOW this and teach this to their horses- you see it in the top trainers winners at least in the Arabian and Morgan breeds Western pleasure Quarter horses & Paints tend to be all strung out and as a result their back and legs go to crap at younger ages so they aren't showing at 25+ years old when you still see Arabs showing and even winning at nationals.
I cannot remember what my argument was, but I certainly agree with what you are saying and support all disciplines. I think I was defending dressage, when others were perhaps targeting it? I am not sure as my comment is nearly a year old ; )
+CaffCaff Averill
"English tack is not designed to keep the mouth closed" (that's what you said)........and yes you are referencing dressage? Well what is the function of a caveson, or a crank noseband, or a figure 8? I ride dressage as well, and I love it. But really either you are clueless as to the function these pieces of tack serve or you are just in la la land. ALL of the pieces of tack I just named are staples of dressage and are seen in the lowest to highest levels of competition.
+abby killienih thanks for the message, but I think you misunderstood my comment. I am talking as a whole, that tack in dressage is not what it is perceived as, whilst some people may use those for whatever reason, whether they understand their use or not, you are completely right. I'm just saying that from an English riders vantage point, I don't clamp my horse's mouth shut with a grackle, I don't have thick bits with lozenges that keep the tongue from fighting the bit. to anyone who has witnessed overly tacked up dressage horses, I ask them not to judge a discipline by those who over tack their horses. Though I do like being in lala land.
okay i can agree with that
This is beautiful...*crying*
I don't know about horse abuse, but this video is awesome. About 30 seconds into this video my head was bobbing before I noticed. It wasn't on purpose.
Fun skit. Awesome horse.
WOW :-) !!!!
DASS BESTE FREESTYLE REINING - WAS ICH JE GESEHEN HABEN.
:-) 5 STERNE !!!!
RESPEKT AN DEN REITER UND DASS WUNDERSCHÖNE UND SUPER REINING HORSE :-) !!!
LIEBE GRÜßE AUS NIRDERBAYERN :-* !!!!
Wow! Horse is COOL!!!
Love it and I love the song
he almost fell when he was dancing on the horse. pretty horse by the way
This is too good!! Horse loves his job, the rider is having fun and it looks like nthe horse is as well....I just have one thing wrong....the riders needs acting lessons. Lol acting drunk didnt really work out to well for him!
it does! you are actually right! when its ears go back it is listening to commands and listening to what is going on. Not is it just the ears how you can tell it is happy but its body language and it looks happy. :)
I am not sure if you were being sarcastic or not.
My horse used to put his ears back just before biting large chunks out of people
@@janmeyer3129 Different ear posture. A horse about to bite is *pinning* its ears back, tight and flat to the head. A dog with pricked ears or cat will do the same, flattening the ears back against the skull, probably as a means of protecting them if they are anticipating a return bite. A horse like this one, who is relaxed and paying attention both to its rider and its surroundings, will tip their ears back so that the ear is more facing toward the thing its paying attention to, with the ears relaxed and even sometimes drooping a little.
The horse is awesome
he has a very beautiful horse
Die Leute die keine Ahnung vom Westernreiten haben sollten sich hier raushalten.Das ist keine Tierquälerei,das ist Westernsport. Und wenn es dem Pferd wehtuen würde,würde es nicht so fleißig mitmachen.Die Stops und die Spins sind einfach der Hammer!!!!!!
+Jette Heering Es gibt hier Leute die Ahnung haben und diesen "Sport" gerade aus diesem Grund ablehnen ;) Wenn Rollkur wehtun würde, würden die Pferde auch nicht so fleissig mitmachen und Medaillen holen - oder? Kinders - die Pferde machen gerade mit WEIL es wehtut. Sie werden mit negativer Verstärkung (Meideverhalten) trainiert; Du erzeugst Druck/Schmerz und das Pferd reagiert damit das unangenehme Gefühl nachlässt. Bitte informiere Dich und komme mit echten Argumenten zurück...
+Manuela Meinhardis Du gehörst eindeutig zu denn Leuten, die davon absolut keine Ahnung haben.Also wenn du nicht einen qualifizierteren Kommentar auf Lager hast,würde ich dir empfehlen deine inkompetenten, unqualifizierten und absolut schwachsinigen Kommentare zu unterlassen. Dankeschön! !!!!!!
Jette Heering Den Gefallen kann ich Dir leider nicht tun. Was machst Du mit Sporen, Gebiss und Co.? Wie setzt du sie als positive Verstärkung ein? Oder clickerst Du? Kannst Du etwas Inhaltliches liefern statt Beleidigungen? Würde mich freuen.
+Manuela Meinhardis Ich benutze auch Bits.Aber ich nutze sie mit Verstand und mit Vorsicht,damit ich meinem Pferd keine Verletzungen zufüge. Ausserdem ist MEIN Pferd so sensibel ausgebildet,dass es meine Stimmkommandos und Gewichtsverlagerungen versteht und ich habe seine ausbildung ohne sporen und "hartes" Gebiss gemacht. Es muss nicht immer alles mit Gewalt dem Pferd begebracht werden,so wie du es hier beschrieben hast.Jedenfalls geht es im Westernsport auch anders.
This guys seat is amazing
I got to go and that was so much fun to watch!!!!
His dressage needs refinement. ;)
Actually, I'd really like to see an actual dressage routine to this.
shg stewart not dressage, reining.
He did great actually. Very nice routine.
Dressage is don't in English not western, and doesn't tend to have galloping in it.
But yeah, I'd like to see a dressage version too xD
that horse can run lol
Wish I could've gone this year! Mom wasn't feeling to great. Couldn't continue out tradition.
That is one horse who loves his job.
An alle die hier sagen "Würde das Pferd nicht wollen würde es nicht mitmachen" das ist das gleiche Argument das Dompteure im Zirkus benutzen. Es ist Schwachsinn. Abgesehen davon ist es allerdings auch Schwachsinn hier so zu tun als wüsste man, wie das Pferd sich fühlt, keiner von uns weiß wie es trainiert und behandelt wird, daher können wir uns auch kein Urteil anmaßen. Bleibt realistish bitte.
+Ni Na Ich denke, das Pferd hat von Natur aus viel Weiß im Auge, haben ja manche Pferde.
When my friends say I can't ride good enough I will show then this me and my horse lylack have been working on this for a year and she all most has it she just needs to get used to me and the trampoline 😊
Love this horse and the comment down below is horrible! I love this so much!!!!
I am just like wow. That horse!!
Vollkommen recht das ost für das pferd viel zulaut
my horse would kick me in the face if i jumped on like that😂
hes a great horse but he doesnt like that kind of stuff 😂
I Love It😂✨💫😁💖
You shouldn't jump into the saddle... Its hard on a horses back and can cause the horse to end up with sway back. It can also damage nerves, the spine.
It can't cause a sway back, a sway back is caused by genetics and not through riding. Please don't spread misinformation.
crane catcher A sway back is caused by genetics or the muscle being stressed to much that it "give out"
Mares that are bred to much get it, horses that don't have their saddles places properly can get it, and horses with riders that bounce to harshly can get it.
I have done my research, thank you very much.
that is one happy horse, you can just tell
Voll coooool !!!
Oppa Reining Style
that horse almost fell from him making an immediate stop and the only reason the horse went fast was because he was wearing spers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spurs*
Brooke Taylor no its called reining and the horse is trained to stop on a dime
I'm not an expert, but isnt he kicking that horse a bit hard with spurs on?
Gabriella Goodwin No. He has large, blunt Spurs which won't hurt the horse as much as normal, smaller Spurs would. Either way, the horse must need Spurs, because if he didn't, he wouldn't use them. :)
Lots of talent
cool
Is the tilting and warping intentional? Because it rocks
I feel bad for the horse
Diego Armenta why, the horse loves it look at him!
yeah, especially when the rider is kicking the horses with spurs, he must love it
@@karolinapilarek1371 I'd love to get a time-stamp of where you see this "kicking the horse with spurs." I saw no signs of kicking, and in fact very seldom saw him turn his heels inward, in the way that one would have to in order to bring the spurs to bear.
+Ni Na da geb ich dir voll recht
1:05😂
Great!
GREAT!!!
das ist coll
he's a nut =)
The horse felt so dizzy!
BREYAR GIRL Can you twirl in a circle 3 times and not feel dizzy? if not go see a doctor as you may have an inner ear problem.
Excuse me?
I'm surprised the horse didn't kick you when u pulled its tail I'm not saying my horse would either 😂😂
wow
Horse: What the actual hell is he doing
So sad for the horse! 😢
Why?
anna van heukelom yeah, why?
anna van heukelom there's no abuse here. get your facts right
The camera work is making me feel sick!!!
Lou. beautifullyunfinishedin2016 ikr
WO i wish I was there to see that xd
Ich glaube das das Pferd nicht misshandelt wird.Seht ihr eine Gerte womit er geschlagen wird? Ja er hat Sporen an und ich mag,Sporen auch nicht.Und diese Pferde 🐴 sind Musik 🎶 gewohnt.!!
Those American bridle things will make any horse come to a screaming halt. They are a bit cruel I think.
The bridle isnt abusing its just how hard the rider pulls on their reins and how big the bit is but these horses are so trained that the rider doesn't need to use their reins that much
The bridle isnt abusing its just how hard the rider pulls on their reins and how big the bit is but these horses are so trained that the rider doesn't need to use their reins that much
A properly fitted bridle with an appropriate bit for the horse is far from cruel, particularly if the rider isn't cranking back on the reins. It doesn't matter whether it's an English-style or Western-style bridle, so long as it's neither too loose (leaving the bit to clank against the horse's front teeth), or too tight (pulling at and pinching the corners of the horse's mouth), if the bit's right, then you don't have to do much to make the horse respond. Each horse is different, and therefore each horse requires a different bit, or sometimes none at all. I've ridden horses that had such a "soft" mouth that they needed a snaffle or even a bitless hackamore, and others who took a curb bit that provided more leverage, which in turn means you actually pull *less* to get the same response. It's all in how the *rider* handles it, not in the bridle itself.
Also, if you watch, this guy is barely using the reins except for turning the horse's head slightly when they're getting ready to do the spins. On the sliding stops, it's very clear that he's applying very little pressure with the reins, and is doing the lion's share of the cue via his seat and weight. You can see him actively sink himself down, slacking his body down into his pelvis and bringing his shoulders back, which is just as common a cue for a horse to come to a stop as pulling the reins, when he does them, while his reining hand actually stays low and forward along the horse's neck, giving it plenty of slack.
he got disqualified right?
Jesus christ, that guy cannot ride worth a damn lol.
Ruger RN dude, have you ever ridden a horse? try it out and see how hard that is, i bet you cant do that
Violet Willems actually, I ride a few different disciplines (cutting, roping, & reined cowhorse, etc) plus I have a ranch that still uses horses as their main transportation. So, you tell me if I know how to ride or not.
Ruger RN well, i assume that you can't, because if you rode better, you would cheer on someone whos trying to become as good as you say you are
At least, i would
The horse seems very happy! I could imagine my best friend doing something like this with her big paint, and every time she starts doing dumb stuff he has this look of disappointment on his face like " yes this is my mom, and yes, she is a retard"!😂
Tbh I feel really bad for the horse I feel like it hurts them when they have to spin around really fast😔😔
Its probably hard not to do what you're told when you have a shank in your mouth..
What's that old adage? Better to keep your mouth shut, than to open it and let everyone know how ignorant you are? You should remember that next time, Kelly.
I SAW THAT!! :D
Reining ist für ein Westernpferd ja normal und es hatte auch genug Schutz an den Beinen. Ich finde es allerdings sehr bedenkenswert in den Sattel zu springen. Das kann Schäden verursachen und tut dem Pferd weh. Wer mir das nicht glauben will kann sich ja selbst mal auf alle Viere stellen und einen Freund oder so auf seinen Rücken springen lassen... Ist eher unschön. Außerdem sitzt der Typ ziemlich schief im Sattel...
don't really understand what all the fuss is about... hes sitting.. IN a saddle.. riding in circles... if you are an avid horse rider that is NOT hard... take the saddle off, lose the bridal, and do some sort of dressage with the horse... and then it would be worth watching
not very kind some people work very hard to achieve this!
Reining (which is what hes doing) is western dressage. when you put some videos up of you doing bareback bridless dressage to a song then lets talk
What are you on, and can I have some? I'd love to see you do a sliding stop or spins.
and it's 'bridle' - nothing to do with weddings...
Why don't you stick a sliding stop without a saddle or bridle there, DQ. Go ahead, get the camera. We'll wait.
He isnt doing anything except go around in circles flailing his arms
but those stops were nice :) and that jump-on on the begining
PS: sorry for bad english :D I hope that there is none, but I'm not sure :D
Actually, he is doing figure 8s and flying lead changes as he changes direction.
WHOA
its not a dance horse its normal Western
That spurs😰
Little late here (curse the algorithm :P), but looking at it, those spurs aren't much. The rowel on them looks to be the common blunt-tipped sort, and spurs are frequently used in reining to make it easier to hide/keep subtle the signals the rider is giving the horse with their legs. IIRC, that's often a factor in the judging: can the judges see you cueing the horse blatantly, or does it look like they go through the routine without the rider needing to make big, clear signals. Spurs aren't meant to cause harm, they just help to get the message across when used properly. I mean, the student stable I learned to ride at had kids as young as five learning how to use spurs, because even on the smaller horses, these kids were so tiny that their little legs weren't able to exert enough force to easily cue the horses to switch gaits, and not a one of the horses ever showed distress at this. I even had a pair of spurs just like these, and I pulled them off of the boots by wrapping my hand around the rowel and gripping, with no harm ever done to my soft skin, let alone to the sturdier hide of a horse.
Amazing horse but still this is only riding in circles
Horse : 😑
poor horse
W T F!!??!! In my opinion, this "performance" (cough) does not demonstrate good horsemanship nor does this highlight the horse's talents. I cringed repeatedly. The routine looked like it was hastily thrown together at the last moment. Dude needs to take more riding lessons or something because when I can see repeated spur jabbing, the rider is doing something wrong.
is that some weird Friesian or wut
Jennifer Brown no, its a quarter horse
Jennifer Brown fresians are fresians. it's mostly quarters, if u know horses, but this comment was a while ago
awefull!
Der soll das ganze mal ohne Sporen versuchen! Er rammt seine Sporen regelrecht in den Bauch des Pferdes!!! :( Einfach nur traurig.!!
ich mag western allgemein schon nicht sehr gerne aber bei sowas weiß ich auch warum!
Alleine schon wo sie sich das erste mal drehen sieht man, dass dem Pferd schwindelig ist und es zur Seite weg schwankt...
Western Sporen sehen schlimmer aus als sie wirklich sind
Was labberst du
Bless those nice Quarter Horses for putting up with those riders with their huge shank bits, big ass spurs, jabbing, arms flailing around, etc. Yikes. A little grace and less yahooing around would be much more impressive. Beautiful horse though!
+Lori Skrip Bless is right! I hope there is a special section in horse heaven for them!
We can't all be prim and proper English riders :) Western horses are bred and trained to be well mannered and put up with all types of movement, especially if they're actually being used for work out in the real world.
u r obviously missing the point - cant see the forest 4 the trees
You are coping the start from another video
:O...
I can do that so ha
I maybe could do this with my horse but if anyone else tries to even get near him you would get bit and if you tried to get on from behind you would get kicked
Poor horse the guy is so un balanced
Actually his balance is pretty good. Hand galloping with no hands and doing motions while turning can be difficult, can you stop whining now?
its funny but if u r gonna try to do this stuff youu should have been able to rider for a while
just sayin!! but dont take that the wrong way... i loved it!!!
Is the rider looking......uh awkward.......on purpose?
Das arme Pferd wieso tut man dem das an ich reite auch nur das es meinem Pferd Spaß macht
Ganz ehrlich: ist scheiße für das Pferd...
Allein schon wegen der Musik. Aber dazu kommt ja auch noch dieses rumgehampel auf seinem Rücken dazu.
Glückliche Pferde sehen definitiv anders aus.
Schlaue Leute würden das erkennen sprich schon bei der ersten Drehung sehen, dass das Pferd zur Seite weg schwankt weil das alles andere als ne natürliche Bewegung ist!
Ich kann dir nur Recht geben :(
Um, so this guy is just riding a horse around an arena waving his hat to gangman style? Wow so you can ride a horse fast around an arena. Big woop.
He's performing reining, actually. It's a type of Western-style competitive riding that focuses on things like the high-speed spins he was performing, the flying change figure-8s (a horse at a lope/canter or gallop leads with the leg to the inside of the arc when moving in a circle, and must therefore switch leading legs "on the fly" or in mid-stride when going into the second circle of the figure-8), sliding stops and backing up, side-passing (the parts where the horse sidestepped, crossing its legs across one-another), and other such controlled movements. In competition, such as here, you're further usually judged on how little you signal the horse, whether with reins, legs, or seat, and how smoothly the horse makes its changes or how fast it can shift between different skills on display.
i find this so sad for the horse :(
+Alessandra Wojtysiak we like to see athletes at there best...
povero cavallo....
poor horse....
The horse has been specially trained to do this! If the horse didn't want to do it, you would know, coz I trained my horse but she didn't want to do it so she reared, bucked and threw me off! The horse in this video is LOVING the attention and the show. I hate people that comment things like ' Poor horse.' ' That's animal cruelty.' 'How could people like this?!' I just HATE it!
+Eloise Willsby Maybe you hate this Kind of posts :D And maybe the horse hates "training". Please learn about behavioral biology, body language and facial expression of horses. Thanks al lot. Using horses do not make you an expert - quite the opposite: in this case you are obviously routine-blinded.
That poor horse! :(
das ist reines kwälen des pferdes:/
Beautiful and poor horse i want to kick to man face and ask him why he do this
What do u mean?hes obviously worked a lot with his horse,I don't see how I think that the horse is hurt
same
You want to see a poor horse? Try looking at the NYC carriage horses, or look up videos of abuse. This horse is obviously well trained and treated.
Mathilde Jenkins better yet look up Mexican horse dancing training that's just plain sick
Tracy Hawks Yep. I've worked at a reining horse breeding and training facility. They are anything but abused.... Heck, I wish I had that kind of care lol.