The riser that was meant to lift the three guitarists up and over the drum kit to start the show fails and instead of walking out they keep waiting for it to work. And waiting. And waiting. June 5th 2010 Nuremberg Germany. Sonic Boom tour.
You mean the USED set piece, Doc bought from the Backstreet Boys or whoever that was. Doc is all about reclaimed stage gear; the first giant video screen around 2012 was bought from George Lucas’ company. It was used on the “Star Wars In Concert” arena symphony tour.
@@RoosterCogburn2112'm a guitarist. That was actually being played live cuz of the nuances in each time the riff played. Plus just listen to 1:38 one either paul or tommy had their hand not strum a part probably due to moving around and the chord just rang while the other kept playing😊
Probably making sure the check cleared before going on stage. They took something that was magic in the 70s and pissed it away. And before anyone starts trashing Ace and Peter how come they didn’t use the fox and “Egyptian warrior” if the original lineup sucked.
The Kiss Krap Circus 🎪🤹♀️🤡🤡🤡🤡 kontinues. I see the gimp-clone came swaggering out first before Paul, I'm sure that must have at least conferred a $5 fine out his wages.
Not sure if they were using tracks back then, but i can see it becoming more necessity... he sounds like my deaf neighbor yelling in his yard. He doesn’t know how loud he is, tho...
An yes when the band still played 100% live. I remember this tour. Paul sounded horrendous the entire tour, but the band did play live with no backing tracks.
Even though it’s really boring, this riff must have been a pain in the ass to maintain this long. t’s full of hammer ons, slides, pull offs … Kudos to them for playing it for 2 mins without a flinch! Also crazy how Eric was a human clock at this time. Nowadays he is a shadow of himself, always missing beats or stumbling during fills. His drum solo on this tour is really a shame compared to what He did in the past.
Nowadays shows are tied up to a click and backing track and even slightest mistake mess the whole song. Singer is still human clock for to play that kind of whole show with backing tracks of vocals that cant adjust is just silly. No matter what I still love the band and its kinda funny to watch some of this fails :)
That was what I was thinking too, I have my doubts that they could play that riff for so long without a hitch, I could be wrong but I'm thinking it was a backing track.
@@pauli.vanili No it would have been too complex to create a loop on the spot with a pre recorded track playing. Here they really play. There’s enough evidence on Fonz’s channel to show that if anything goes wrong for 1 bar, the rest of the song is screwed until the end of the tape.
@@thefonzkiss - "Hey guys I’ve got the most crazy idea for my drum solo!" - "Really? What could be crazier than flaming drumsticks and a bazooka?! - "See that towel in the toilets ? …"
They should've just hired Fonzie to come out in his leather jacket and blue daisy dukes to jump the electronic shark from Jaws...and then try to ram his log in the sharks "fireplace".... That would have "STOLE" the really BIG show as Ed Sullivan would say...
They're opening shows with Modern Day Delilah now?😂😂😂. In fairness, technical issues sometimes arise with live performances and credit where credit is due they are playing it live.
I’ve always suspected he was still on the riser yelling at the techs thinking he would be the big man and go over on it just by himself. They just couldn’t get it working so he had to finally waddle out.
The whole show is just repeating the same moves... When something happens they don't know how to improvise very well... Imagine if the lip synch machine broke...
when you are on a stage that big with that many things everything is contingent on keeping things the same. I don't think they were using tracks at this point but I am pretty sure they were playing to a click which times everything out and coordinates the video/pyro, etc. I am obviously not in a band this big, but I have been actively gigging for the past 10 years straight. Being on stage is a weird thing- tings don't sound they way they do out front and if you aren't a band that improvs a lot you don't want to just suddenly do that because nobody is expecting it
Well this was a kiss concert so this was about as normal as u will get with a kiss show…. Delays, tracks, lip synching, wigs Kiss is as fake as it gets Guess the end of their goodbye tour should be called “ karma sucks” lol
Naaah…but Tommy should have definitely improvised and soloed over the chord progression. Sadly, he’s probably afraid to in case he gets yelled at or throws them off. Weirdly, any decent bar musician I know would have instantly covered this by soloing/jamming. At least it would have been more interesting than listening to that same shit wannabe-90’s grunge, Pearl Jam rip off riff over and over…
@@glengamble526 not really in those situations it's best to just keep the groove going until things are fixed. If the ithers aren't expecting you to do that stuff t can throw them off because they are already distracted due to trying to get things fixed. They were just all trying to make it down to the stage
@@glengamble526 well if you have 2 gold records you are lucky because anybody who plays would recognize what is happening. Thanks for sharing how great you are tho4ugh- you are amazing man- thx for letting me know that. BTW it wasn't advice- it was a statement.. I have 38 years experience myse;lf, though I don't feel the need to boast to everybody to give my statements credibility. If you are in a band like Kiss- everything is structured-it's not a jam band- you don't start changing stuff they aren't expecting- you kee5p things going so everybody knows where they are. If you are in a band more jam oriented- yeah, but not in a band like that
This is old though I hadnt seen it. I thought for a second the Fonz got hold of footage of Pauls track skipping that he mimes to! "Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, ".... Just a matter of time..
I thought KISS was not allowed to use their original logo in Germany (because of Nazi-ss) but had to replace the ”lightning ss” with two regular ss. Which meant that every Kiss coverart was ruined in the German editions.
Define "allowed". The kiss Logo was never illegal in germany. The people at the record company pondered wether they would sell more records with the controversial logo or a more streamlined version and then decided to use the reversed "Z".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! But being serious they should have just stopped and started again with a different song then play MDD later in the set, you know, just juggle it around. BTW, that intro sounded taped!!!!!!!!!! Who knows, maybe Kiss were already Lip-Syncing to some songs back then.
If that was 2010 the crowds in 2023 are community star struck & brainwashed by fireworks, blood ,lasers, & confetti . I saw a study that fans of soft Fairy floss metal tend to have low self esteem
I saw a study that people that take the time to bash bands on RUclips are typically failed musicians but always have low self esteem and not successful in life.
@@bradc827 Did a hit a nerve with your puffy little pop fart band ? Paul Stanley must look at his bandmates and then looking at the crowd with an attitude of "LOOK AT THE DUMBASSES they don't even know we aren't singing and playing" Brad if you are so lazy & shrug your shoulders at Lip syncing your a cheat just like them . A rock 'n' roll band should certainly never fake anything. If they struggle on stage Corporate rock' is a business just like any other and they expect to make a profit even if the band/artist can't cut it anymore. It needs to be said. Let’s put it this way, if you paid money to see a tribute band and they were lip syncing you would ask for your money back. Talking about Musicians I can’t even imagine it. We play live, without a net every performance and the reaction of the audience reflects their understanding that this is real music, made by real musicians in real time.. Given the exorbitant prices that classic Rock fans are asked and seem willing to pay today, the bar should be at the commensurate level expected. Many bands just like to cash in the safest way possible or still have debts to pay off or love the adulation of the crowd on their nostalgia trip. Ghost bands and backing tapes have been around forever. It's incredibly annoying, but it's just more and more acceptable as time goes on. Many people who buy concert tickets these days are just there to post about it on social media anyway. They have no idea how or what it takes to put on a good show. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back out to my front lawn and ask more people to remove themselves from it Lipsyncing is a no no
@@Motuorko I saw them on End Of the Road and it was 80-90% about just wanting to see the show aspect. To be honest that part was really good---yeah if they didn't have that it would be tough to survive on their sound alone, but hey Ace is doing it so who knows? LOL
@@bradc827 You are probably not too far off. I have played my entire life and have know some very amazing players. They are never the ones who bash, It's usually the ones who aren't able to keep a working band going and can barely play themselves that do it. It's weird. There are some definite things that are univresally bad though-- Vince Neil, ACE Frehley CURRENTLY, and obviously Pauls voice. But evenb these guys proved themselves when they were young
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The riser that was meant to lift the three guitarists up and over the drum kit to start the show fails and instead of walking out they keep waiting for it to work. And waiting. And waiting. June 5th 2010 Nuremberg Germany. Sonic Boom tour.
What did they do to you being such a madman all the time. Just must be Peter.
@@addickkelders2265yes they do blame everything on Peter & Ace😠
More like a “Semisonic Pop”👌🏻😂
You mean the USED set piece, Doc bought from the Backstreet Boys or whoever that was. Doc is all about reclaimed stage gear; the first giant video screen around 2012 was bought from George Lucas’ company. It was used on the “Star Wars In Concert” arena symphony tour.
Who cares they are legenda abd you fonz a looser
I heard they're doing Stonehenge for their next performance
You beat me to it 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
This reminds me more of Derek Smalls being stuck in his pod for all of Rock ‘N’ Roll Creation
I’m hoping for jazz odyssey
I think it would work better if they did it in Dubbly.
Genius. Watching that blank stage and watching and watching and watching. Like something straight out of Spinal Tap.
Damn that Abner Deveraux! At it again!😂
For a minute I thought they were just simply hanging out at the pool...but then I remembered, Rock n rollers don't bathe.
@@Kissfan96drPhantom of the Park!
Good one!
👍🏻
Ok I almost spit my drink out on that one 😊
Devereux!
Easy Catman they are SERIOUS!!! And they've got Gun's!
Got to appreciate how they kept playing the same riff over and over and over again while having all that go on in the back haha
The tape plays on
@@RoosterCogburn2112that’s not a tape. Tard
@@RoosterCogburn2112'm a guitarist.
That was actually being played live cuz of the nuances in each time the riff played.
Plus just listen to 1:38 one either paul or tommy had their hand not strum a part probably due to moving around and the chord just rang while the other kept playing😊
@@TrayXCooper yeah you can hear them screwing it up occasionally, it’s legit.
they had the backdub tape running on auto relay
Half the crew had pink slips by the time Gene came on stage
Probably making sure the check cleared before going on stage. They took something that was magic in the 70s and pissed it away. And before anyone starts trashing Ace and Peter how come they didn’t use the fox and “Egyptian warrior” if the original lineup sucked.
Makes you wonder how many dozens and dozens of other mishaps occurred back before everyone had a video camera in their pocket.
You wanted the jest, you got the jest!
Just proves they can get away with not even appearing on stage. The audience didn't seem to notice there was no band playing.
They were hypnotised by the pretty lights.
@@thefonzkiss and PYRO
Eric singer is playing the drums. Waiting for the rest to walk around is what I see.
@@rodneyhowell6677 you’re a genius!
@@shaneedwardleeyour moms a genius
a very spinal tap moment !
I wouldn't call this a fail...love the way they stayed with it until they got it worked out. It jacked the crowd up too.
This is SPINAL TAP
FUNNIEST THING I’ve seen all year!
Not only are KISS in their 70’s….the road crew IS, as well!
Kiss does everything bigger…even mishaps! 🔥💥🔥
Yeah the farewell tour shoulda ended when it started back in 2000
Funny how they can play while no one is on stage
YOU WANTeD THE beST You PAID for the BEST You got it Lip Syncing and Backtracking !!!! Have fun kids
After all the big stage productions over the years im suprised so little problems have occurred
Keep the loop going Gene hasn't finished on the 🚽 yet
Someone dropped a penny between the seat cushions backstage
@@thefonzkiss😂😂😂😂
@@thefonzkissyes they pulled their pants down dropped it in the bowl
Genius. Love that Gene just stopped playing halfway through
Good catch, didn’t notice that before.
He was busy firing people.
@@glengamble526 and having a backstage enema
What a joke this band has become..........freaking sad 😥
@@titaniabell6680Awww, you're one of the people who took them seriously. Bless your heart 😂😂😂
The Kiss Krap Circus 🎪🤹♀️🤡🤡🤡🤡 kontinues. I see the gimp-clone came swaggering out first before Paul, I'm sure that must have at least conferred a $5 fine out his wages.
The “gimp-clone”!😂😂
Not sure if they were using tracks back then, but i can see it becoming more necessity... he sounds like my deaf neighbor yelling in his yard. He doesn’t know how loud he is, tho...
An yes when the band still played 100% live. I remember this tour. Paul sounded horrendous the entire tour, but the band did play live with no backing tracks.
Yup.
He's sounded much worse than this, since.
The KISSWorld Tour, from 2017-2018 was the lowest point.
with no = without
PFFF,, YEA,, OKAY- LMAO😂
That's honestly how it feels to me on the ears when they use psycho circus as an intro
They got stuck in traffic … it happens to all of us… relax!
Once the final shows happen this December. Could we get a huge compilation of screw ups like this Fonz style?
The final shows _will_ be a huge compilation of screwups.
@@thefonzkissCalled it.
Handled it like the pros they are…
Yeah professional con artists lol😂
Yeah no one even noticed but that’s mostly because the audience are mouthbreathers
They could have at least had the courtesy of getting stuck on one of their better riffs!😂
Even though it’s really boring, this riff must have been a pain in the ass to maintain this long. t’s full of hammer ons, slides, pull offs … Kudos to them for playing it for 2 mins without a flinch!
Also crazy how Eric was a human clock at this time. Nowadays he is a shadow of himself, always missing beats or stumbling during fills. His drum solo on this tour is really a shame compared to what He did in the past.
The one where he rolls up the towel and dabs at his face? It’s just odd. Bring back the 2001 flaming drumstick solo he did, that was actually good.
Nowadays shows are tied up to a click and backing track and even slightest mistake mess the whole song. Singer is still human clock for to play that kind of whole show with backing tracks of vocals that cant adjust is just silly. No matter what I still love the band and its kinda funny to watch some of this fails :)
That was what I was thinking too, I have my doubts that they could play that riff for so long without a hitch, I could be wrong but I'm thinking it was a backing track.
@@pauli.vanili No it would have been too complex to create a loop on the spot with a pre recorded track playing. Here they really play. There’s enough evidence on Fonz’s channel to show that if anything goes wrong for 1 bar, the rest of the song is screwed until the end of the tape.
@@thefonzkiss - "Hey guys I’ve got the most crazy idea for my drum solo!"
- "Really? What could be crazier than flaming drumsticks and a bazooka?!
- "See that towel in the toilets ? …"
😂’Hello Cleveland!’😂
Different opening at least. Usually it's Detroit Rock City but they opened with Modern Day Delilah
This intro reminds me of God of Thunder.
They should've just hired Fonzie to come out in his leather jacket and blue daisy dukes to jump the electronic shark from Jaws...and then try to ram his log in the sharks "fireplace"....
That would have "STOLE" the really BIG show as Ed Sullivan would say...
Gene was late because he was with human resources signing pink slips.
They're opening shows with Modern Day Delilah now?😂😂😂. In fairness, technical issues sometimes arise with live performances and credit where credit is due they are playing it live.
2:11 "Gene where you at?"
I’ve always suspected he was still on the riser yelling at the techs thinking he would be the big man and go over on it just by himself. They just couldn’t get it working so he had to finally waddle out.
as always you got them with their pants down around their ankles again lol lol lol
It hasn’t been much of a challenge these last few years to be honest.
@@thefonzkiss thats so true
The whole show is just repeating the same moves... When something happens they don't know how to improvise very well... Imagine if the lip synch machine broke...
This was 9 years before incorporating vocal backing tracks
@@DaP84 I wouldn't doubt some lip synching stuff was snuck in even then...
@@syndicatedsatellite7288 nah, there was no lip sync before (with exception of some tv performances), alway looked and sounded natural
@@DaP84 As if you saw their complete catalog and every single show... 🎉
when you are on a stage that big with that many things everything is contingent on keeping things the same. I don't think they were using tracks at this point but I am pretty sure they were playing to a click which times everything out and coordinates the video/pyro, etc. I am obviously not in a band this big, but I have been actively gigging for the past 10 years straight. Being on stage is a weird thing- tings don't sound they way they do out front and if you aren't a band that improvs a lot you don't want to just suddenly do that because nobody is expecting it
Thank God it's nearly over
If that song didn’t suck enough already!😂😂😂
The Van Stephenson one they ripped the title off from isn’t bad.
best song on that album though
@@earld158 Russian Roulette
Lol exactly. F kiss
Recently gave Sonic Boom a listen, MDD and Say yeah are... tolerable, the songs in the middle got these biring intros that makes me skip everytime.
I have always put Kiss in the same category as the Bay City Rollers, And if they played at the end of my street, I'd probably give them a miss. 😮
you won't be missed
@88kwthomas good to know. They don't help themselves though do they ?
Nobody gives a sht what u think
@@88kwthomasMissed from what? The hypothetical Kiss concert at the end of his street that doesn't exist?
@@88kwthomas Happily I agree, I mean, look at them 🤣🤡
That was well over 10 years ago! 🙄 Sometimes things break... it's not the band's fault.
Thanks for protecting KISS
@@thefonzkiss Just speaking the truth 🙂
The backing track is skipping again. Flip over Alive 2 quick.
This was horrible Glad i didnt waste my money on this and backing tracks !Glad i seen the original Kiss years ago..
Gene had to wait for his Fatomidine to kick in.
Comedy of errors
I figured you out, Fonz! You’re Peter Criss 😂
_Cos you matter to me_
_And that’s why_
we'll show you how the big boys do it.- gene simmons. there is no way they just started lip synching this tour
The annocer not even in to it.
Slow week Arthur?
This is old as balls!
Such a Potsie
What!? Never in my life have I seen something like this.. what the hell??
Eric is on the kit playing, tbe others are playing on a failed peice of equipment that was supposed to bring them on stage.
I hate when this happens.
Well this was a kiss concert so this was about as normal as u will get with a kiss show…. Delays, tracks, lip synching, wigs Kiss is as fake as it gets Guess the end of their goodbye tour should be called “ karma sucks” lol
ouch, Paul's voice
as a drummer I would have taken the queue to jam out a solo to that riff.
That would not please The Elders.
Naaah…but Tommy should have definitely improvised and soloed over the chord progression. Sadly, he’s probably afraid to in case he gets yelled at or throws them off.
Weirdly, any decent bar musician I know would have instantly covered this by soloing/jamming. At least it would have been more interesting than listening to that same shit wannabe-90’s grunge, Pearl Jam rip off riff over and over…
@@glengamble526 not really in those situations it's best to just keep the groove going until things are fixed. If the ithers aren't expecting you to do that stuff t can throw them off because they are already distracted due to trying to get things fixed. They were just all trying to make it down to the stage
@@earld158 thanks for the advice but as a musician of 40 years experience (with 2 gold records on my wall) I disagree. Cheers!
@@glengamble526 well if you have 2 gold records you are lucky because anybody who plays would recognize what is happening. Thanks for sharing how great you are tho4ugh- you are amazing man- thx for letting me know that. BTW it wasn't advice- it was a statement.. I have 38 years experience myse;lf, though I don't feel the need to boast to everybody to give my statements credibility. If you are in a band like Kiss- everything is structured-it's not a jam band- you don't start changing stuff they aren't expecting- you kee5p things going so everybody knows where they are. If you are in a band more jam oriented- yeah, but not in a band like that
Rock n roll is dead and this krap killed it
so they were playing the same riff for all that time? I tought it was a playback... 😂
That intro mustve been pre-recorded
Nah you can hear them flub it occasionally.
The (intro) song remains the same.
Love this show ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Fun fail on stage !!!
Show much lil longer
Next stop...the mariana trench...
That's real Milli Vanilli s*** right there
Change the KISS sign to one that says SUCKS
You wanted the best & you got PISS!!!
Spinal terp.
This is old though I hadnt seen it. I thought for a second the Fonz got hold of footage of Pauls track skipping that he mimes to! "Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, Feel uptight on a Saturday night, chhrr, ".... Just a matter of time..
Spinal tap moment ,so what
I thought KISS was not allowed to use their original logo in Germany (because of Nazi-ss) but had to replace the ”lightning ss” with two regular ss. Which meant that every Kiss coverart was ruined in the German editions.
They’ve never changed the actual onstage sign there except for the 1980 shows.
Define "allowed". The kiss Logo was never illegal in germany. The people at the record company pondered wether they would sell more records with the controversial logo or a more streamlined version and then decided to use the reversed "Z".
It ruined the whole thing😂
Sounds like a loop
Guarantee someone lost their job after that? Maybe a techie or roadie was getting back at one of Paul's or Gene' rants?
LMAO! Time for the equipment to retire as well!
Oh HOW embarrassing!
Modern Day Diarrhea
Hit single from album Sonic Bomb!
You mean Sonic Poo
@@charlesbronson4282 Sonic Poo: available exclusively at Wal-Shart
Might wanna add chlamidyia as well lmao😂
Detroit Rock Shitty
Goddamn they somehow managed to make that horrible song sound even worse. So embarassing to see a band hang on for WAY too long, decades too long
I loved these guys but they are a parody of themselves now
Totally!
Actually I think they’re a parody of a parody of a parody of themselves.
Equipment falls by all bands Sometimes haopen
Interesting grammar.
Love Kiss, and your channel is quite funny.
You have taste.
Ahhh, I thought the failure was Paul Stanley's vocal chords!
Bruh 💀 😂
Eric is on the kit playing, tbe others are playing on a failed peice of equipment that was supposed to bring them on stage.
As it says in the description, yes.
The needle is stuck, lol
Tbh the riff is so awesome I didn't mind listening to it for 2 minutes straight
You're pointing out their mistakes and fails, why don't you point out yours
I’m not the one charging big money for tickets, lying about lip synching etc. Thanks for the comment.
Air guitar.
Awesome show til they came out and started singing.🤣
Ha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! But being serious they should have just stopped and started again with a
different song then play MDD later in the set, you know, just juggle it around. BTW, that intro sounded taped!!!!!!!!!!
Who knows, maybe Kiss were already Lip-Syncing to some songs back then.
Nah they’re playing it.
Being that this was in Germany, could this be their punishment for the Nazis??? I'm just kidding.
Sonic boo boo.
This is Comedy
Now that is bad!!! No proof anyone is doing anything.
huh?
Ah shit happens
Ha!!! Fuckin ridiculous.
Lmfao 🤣🤣
If that was 2010 the crowds in 2023 are community star struck & brainwashed by fireworks, blood ,lasers, & confetti . I saw a study that fans of soft Fairy floss metal tend to have low self esteem
I think it’s mostly people taking their kids like going to the circus.
I saw a study that people that take the time to bash bands on RUclips are typically failed musicians but always have low self esteem and not successful in life.
@@bradc827 Did a hit a nerve with your puffy little pop fart band ?
Paul Stanley must look at his bandmates and then looking at the crowd with an attitude of "LOOK AT THE DUMBASSES they don't even know we aren't singing and playing" Brad if you are so lazy & shrug your shoulders at Lip syncing your a cheat just like them . A rock 'n' roll band should certainly never fake anything. If they struggle on stage Corporate rock' is a business just like any other and they expect to make a profit even if the band/artist can't cut it anymore. It needs to be said. Let’s put it this way, if you paid money to see a tribute band and they were lip syncing you would ask for your money back. Talking about Musicians I can’t even imagine it. We play live, without a net every performance and the reaction of the audience reflects their understanding that this is real music, made by real musicians in real time.. Given the exorbitant prices that classic Rock fans are asked and seem willing to pay today, the bar should be at the commensurate level expected. Many bands just like to cash in the safest way possible or still have debts to pay off or love the adulation of the crowd on their nostalgia trip.
Ghost bands and backing tapes have been around forever. It's incredibly annoying, but it's just more and more acceptable as time goes on. Many people who buy concert tickets these days are just there to post about it on social media anyway. They have no idea how or what it takes to put on a good show. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back out to my front lawn and ask more people to remove themselves from it
Lipsyncing is a no no
@@Motuorko I saw them on End Of the Road and it was 80-90% about just wanting to see the show aspect. To be honest that part was really good---yeah if they didn't have that it would be tough to survive on their sound alone, but hey Ace is doing it so who knows? LOL
@@bradc827 You are probably not too far off. I have played my entire life and have know some very amazing players. They are never the ones who bash, It's usually the ones who aren't able to keep a working band going and can barely play themselves that do it. It's weird. There are some definite things that are univresally bad though-- Vince Neil, ACE Frehley CURRENTLY, and obviously Pauls voice. But evenb these guys proved themselves when they were young
How lame do you want it?
MKGA!
The best!? The hottest band in the world!?😳😆. Why people pay good money for this is laughable