The Feral Child Tied To A Toilet For 13 Years

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • [This is a censored re-upload because RUclips has once again targeted Vsauce2 and Age-Restricted the previous upload which essentially shadowbans it.] Let our sponsor BetterHelp connect you to a therapist who can support you - all from the comfort of your own home. Visit betterhelp.com... and enjoy a special 10% discount on your first month.
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    Genie Wiley was found in California in 1970, a feral child subjected to 13 years of horrors at the hands of her father -- and her tragic story blurs the line between research and true crime. It's part psychology, part biology, part linguistics... and all a chapter in the dark history of science.
    Genie presented an incredible opportunity to study the limits of and potential for language acquisition at a time when Noam Chomsky's "Syntactic Structures" dominated linguistic debates. But was it even possible to help an abused girl and study her at the same time? That depends on who you ask -- but the result was limited scientific knowledge and a broken life.
    FURTHER READING / VIEWING:
    "Genie: A Scientific Tragedy" by Russ Rymer
    NOVA: "Genie, The Secret of the Wild Child" (1994)
    This video is for educational, artistic, and documentary purposes.
    #psychology #weirdhistory #truecrimestories

Комментарии • 1,7 тыс.

  • @Vsauce2
    @Vsauce2  3 месяца назад +2322

    This is a censored re-upload because RUclips has once again targeted Vsauce2 and Age-Restricted the previous upload which essentially shadowbans it. PLEASE hit the LIKE button to support the channel and this video. I will continue to make videos that explore the complex relationship between science and human behavior. If you've already watch the video please consider letting it run muted in another tab so this reupload gets treated normally in the algorithm. And as always, thanks for watching.

    • @bumblebeegamerreal
      @bumblebeegamerreal 3 месяца назад +22

      Oh RIP, Good luck with that

    • @leandru7
      @leandru7 3 месяца назад +33

      RUclips censors the word “toilet?”

    • @horatiotodd8723
      @horatiotodd8723 3 месяца назад +23

      Vsauce deserves justice

    • @justinvirtue1374
      @justinvirtue1374 3 месяца назад +16

      Playing it silently in the background 🫡

    • @FinSemi
      @FinSemi 3 месяца назад

      You should use Nebula as additional platform for limited content.

  • @bloodrune329
    @bloodrune329 3 месяца назад +3320

    Crazy how Genie was with a woman who loved her and wanted to take care of her and the foster system immediately set her back to where she was. Tells you what the state of the U.S. foster system is.

    • @mactep1
      @mactep1 3 месяца назад +353

      How do you look at one of the worst cases of parental abuse and think "yeah, we believe her mom is the best choice fr" ?

    • @bloodrune329
      @bloodrune329 3 месяца назад +219

      @@mactep1 yeah the woman who loved her was the psychologist my man…

    • @AChannelVeryCool
      @AChannelVeryCool 3 месяца назад +89

      @@mactep1 they were not talking about their mother.

    • @kwingle
      @kwingle 2 месяца назад +44

      Her name is Susan.

    • @qlx-i
      @qlx-i 2 месяца назад +116

      @@AChannelVeryCool They partially did. They were talking about how broken society is, that they literally didn't allow the woman who has proven to love her and actually take care of her to be her mother and instead sent them to her original mother, who has proven to abuse her.

  • @luke2806
    @luke2806 3 месяца назад +3010

    she went from isolated in a room, to isolated in a scientific institute. and they wondered why her progress stopped.

    • @MoonLiteNite
      @MoonLiteNite 2 месяца назад +50

      That wouldn't be the cause of her progress stopping.....

    • @KingMickeyMouseOoO
      @KingMickeyMouseOoO 2 месяца назад

      If I remember the video correctly, the host has stated that Susan Curtis wanted to adopt her and become her parent. IF the courts in our American governmental system had a @#$%ing heart and a @#$%ing spine, they would have accepted Susan Curtis's proposal; and Genie FINALLY would have been saved and she would have DEVELOPED as a somewhat functioning adult human being. This just show how CORRUPTED, TARNISHED, and @#$%ING RUINED our American governmental system has become! I don't have the answer for this, but........EXPOSE the lies, the manipulations, and deceptions of our government! Have the masses SEE what is actually going on behind the curtains! And reveal WHO the big green face head guy really is and show no mercy to them!
      P.S. - Do NOT become the very monster that you are trying to destroy........that would be an even WORSE outcome! Thank you!

    • @itzmedb8290
      @itzmedb8290 2 месяца назад +148

      @@MoonLiteNitevery likely contributed a large amount.

    • @Middle_OfMay
      @Middle_OfMay 2 месяца назад +44

      @@MoonLiteNite probrobly a part of the problem though

    • @clancykohl
      @clancykohl 2 месяца назад +141

      This assumes the scientists who were all about human development didn't have a clue how it works. Like she lived there, and possibly wasn't any more isolated than you when you sit at home. They probably went outside with her and stuff too, but there were likely limits to what she even could do, due to her stunted development. It's not like that you just expose someone like that to normal life and suddenly they overcome all their problems and become perfectly functional and normal.

  • @zombiedoggie2732
    @zombiedoggie2732 3 месяца назад +1329

    Father: "I can't stand loud noises!" *makes three kids*

    • @e-talian1245
      @e-talian1245 3 месяца назад +10

      Edited and still misspelled lol

    • @zombiedoggie2732
      @zombiedoggie2732 3 месяца назад +74

      @@e-talian1245 The edit was to edit the 2 to 3. And noses can be very loud too!

    • @b0ks511
      @b0ks511 3 месяца назад

      You're not wrong 😂​@@zombiedoggie2732

    • @MyDeadOblivionAx
      @MyDeadOblivionAx 3 месяца назад +12

      He couldn't because he was sick in the head

    • @Urduhkhan
      @Urduhkhan 2 месяца назад

      Abortion and Birth Control were illegal.

  • @definty
    @definty 3 месяца назад +1033

    Isn't better help the company that connected predators with abuse victims?

    • @norwegiansmores811
      @norwegiansmores811 2 месяца назад

      im not sure about that specifically but overall betterhelp is inherently malicious, unsafe and every single thing you say will be sold to data brokers with your name and billing info attached. their privacy policy is akin to taking a shit inside a glass porta potty surrounded by 4k cameras.

    • @Derpy_3424
      @Derpy_3424 2 месяца назад +53

      Yes

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +50

      never heard about that but i can believe it.
      take this: 👍

    • @Isachzu
      @Isachzu 2 месяца назад +1

      Wait what’s up with betterhelp

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ 2 месяца назад +32

      @@Isachzu apparently sold users' information

  • @budgerigarer
    @budgerigarer 2 месяца назад +225

    From Wikipedia: "In May 2008, ABC News reported that someone who spoke to them under condition of anonymity had hired a private investigator who located her in 2000. According to the investigator, she was living a simple lifestyle in a small private facility for mentally underdeveloped adults and appeared to be happy, and reportedly only spoke a few words but could still communicate fairly well in sign language."
    Later in the article it says that as of 2016, she is still alive.

    • @angiemaestre638
      @angiemaestre638 8 дней назад

      Thank you, cause i cant keep watching this video and im only 7minutes in

    • @maddie.143
      @maddie.143 7 дней назад

      What did you search to find this Wikipedia page?

    • @budgerigarer
      @budgerigarer 7 дней назад +1

      @@maddie.143 Genie (Feral Child) I believe is what its called.

  • @mikeclarke1986
    @mikeclarke1986 3 месяца назад +734

    I took my undergrad in psychology, and the textbooks only ever talked about the first half of genie's story -- it's the first I've heard of what happened after funding dried up

    • @OhWizzer
      @OhWizzer 3 месяца назад +23

      Her names Susan. Watch the whole video it's worth it

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад +59

      I took undergrad psych and we got the full story. It was used to not only tell her story, but to reflect on care and practices in the field, etc.

  • @seekervaltriz9447
    @seekervaltriz9447 3 месяца назад +3707

    People deserve better help than BetterHelp.

    • @FBI_Agent_69420
      @FBI_Agent_69420 2 месяца назад

      That's why here at BestHelp, we can surgically remove anxiety, depression and other popular disorders for only $4.20 per disorder.

    • @Babu-kr3cr
      @Babu-kr3cr 2 месяца назад +10

      Have you tried that and found it lacking?

    • @chrissmithdoe2100
      @chrissmithdoe2100 2 месяца назад +375

      Better help sells customer medical data & doesn't use licensed professionals

    • @seekervaltriz9447
      @seekervaltriz9447 2 месяца назад

      @@Babu-kr3cr As the other commenter has stated, they sell medical data and do not use licensed professionals.
      Further more, their "psychologists" tend to run late or not be invested into the patients, and oftentimes push a political agenda. Oftentimes, far-right. This means that their treatment of LGBTQ+, black people, and other minority patients, are even worse than their baseline, which is not good in any measure of the word to begin with.

    • @spyralspyder
      @spyralspyder 2 месяца назад +79

      Yes I am questioning finishing this video now

  • @CoperliteConsumer
    @CoperliteConsumer 3 месяца назад +439

    How ironic that when you attempted to give susan's story to the world, that yourube would immediately censor it. Its so predictably tragic, the world we live in.

    • @ceulgai2817
      @ceulgai2817 3 месяца назад +2

      IS that irony, though?

    • @zakattack5863
      @zakattack5863 3 месяца назад

      @@ceulgai2817 ?

    • @zakattack5863
      @zakattack5863 3 месяца назад +10

      @@Baptized_in_Fire.[SPOILER]
      At the end, he reveals that Genie was a codename and her real name is Susan

    • @Baptized_in_Fire.
      @Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад +2

      @@zakattack5863 yeah I realized that and forgot to delete my comment.

    • @DVDCJW
      @DVDCJW День назад

      Is r a typo or to avoid censor? It's right next to t

  • @Head_Stander
    @Head_Stander 3 месяца назад +3400

    and as always, remember not to use betterhelp

    • @pinkace
      @pinkace 3 месяца назад +21

      what did betterhelp do to you?

    • @jonathanrouse
      @jonathanrouse 3 месяца назад +276

      Betterhelp is a terrible therapy platform, the therapists are not taken care of there

    • @pinkace
      @pinkace 3 месяца назад +10

      @@jonathanrouse but did YOU use it? Are you a therapist?

    • @kuotamou
      @kuotamou 3 месяца назад +304

      @@pinkace they sold their users personal data without their consent, some of the the “therapists” who work at Betterhelp aren’t licensed therapists, and the therapists that are on Betterhelp are subjected to the users issues at any time due to the instant messaging system. You aren’t supposed to be able to message therapists at any time, you are supposed to think about stuff before talking to a therapist about it.

    • @pinkace
      @pinkace 3 месяца назад +16

      @@kuotamou that sounds awful. Did this happen to you directly? Were you a first-party witness (or should I say victim) to these affronts?

  • @RealShebang
    @RealShebang 2 месяца назад +195

    This was a horrific and tragic story that almost made me cry. Everyone forgot that this was a person, except the person who wasn't allowed to see her. What a miserable life, and for no good reason.

  • @misspinkpunkykat
    @misspinkpunkykat Месяц назад +26

    Seeing how "Genie" was treated this way all the way until she was almost 14 and only discovered because her mother went to the wrong social services department makes me wonder how many more children like her exist but go undiscovered.

  • @dollsie_lemon
    @dollsie_lemon 3 месяца назад +492

    “Her NAME is _Susan_ .” Hit way harder than it should have

    • @theb33prince
      @theb33prince 2 месяца назад +45

      kept it together until he said that. such a punch in the gut for some reason.

    • @nickyliu8762
      @nickyliu8762 2 месяца назад +16

      Name is a hollow word. That name is what her useless parents gave her, I assume. And she probably never associated that name (or any other hollow words and words in general for that matter) with her identity for the first 13 years.

    • @madeleine61509
      @madeleine61509 2 месяца назад +68

      @@nickyliu8762 I don't think the point was "they took away her identity!"- it was that out of every single "codename" they could have given her, they chose something dehumanizing and self-serving. As was described in the video, the name clearly shows that the scientists always viewed her as a way to further their own career rather than to provide something better for her. Remember that she didn't choose the name Genie- that was also chosen by people who ended up mistreating her for their own selfish interests. They could have gone for something like Jane Doe (which has existed since the 1700s), but they chose something else.
      The reveal to the real name hits hard because it is a true reminder that this is a PERSON. Not a genie or other mythical being/fairytale, but a person and a child at that.

    • @ordogordo6589
      @ordogordo6589 2 месяца назад +6

      “And as always thanks for watching 😊”

    • @reedy_9619
      @reedy_9619 2 месяца назад +4

      The name was given by people who abused her and she probably didn’t form her identity around it. Is it really relevant ?

  • @blearkob
    @blearkob 2 месяца назад +204

    "Her name isn't even Genie" was such a plot twist

    • @HopefulStars-pt6hi
      @HopefulStars-pt6hi 2 месяца назад +16

      I thought it was for privacy reasons

    • @cheetah2003-z5w
      @cheetah2003-z5w 23 дня назад +3

      If you paused and looked at sniplet of the newspaper article shown about the Father's end, you'd have seen the girl's name is Susan. I did that, and then looked up the Father's name, since it also appears in the article. Strange how the wikipedia article about Genie goes out of it's way to omit the name of her parents. All in all, this is a very strange but also very tragic story.

    • @Pocket_Fox
      @Pocket_Fox 5 дней назад

      ​@HopefulStars-pt6hi It was. The ending of this video is completely ridiculous. There's quite a few things wrong with the video, unfortunately.

  • @anonymouspig992
    @anonymouspig992 3 месяца назад +319

    RUclips when you upload educational content instead of stimulating brain rot videos targeted at children : 😡😡🤬🤬😡

    • @EStewart573
      @EStewart573 2 месяца назад +17

      Ironic given the mentions of cocomelon in the video

  • @play.through
    @play.through 3 месяца назад +3101

    Pls say no to better help. Better help is not a good or ethical service.

    • @seanbrockest3888
      @seanbrockest3888 3 месяца назад +218

      "Here, answer a 10 question survey.... You sound depressed! Credit Card details to find out more!"

    • @FellowHuman137
      @FellowHuman137 3 месяца назад

      Oh you're poor? Well how about we charge you this super cheap amount for poor people?
      Oh you can't pay the super cheap amount? Well f off pawper.

    • @eirikrhernandez8860
      @eirikrhernandez8860 3 месяца назад +27

      Explain why, please.

    • @seanbrockest3888
      @seanbrockest3888 3 месяца назад

      @@eirikrhernandez8860 a comment won't do it justice. There are lots of breakdowns from news and even doctors. Find one you trust.

    • @natgrafton5138
      @natgrafton5138 3 месяца назад

      ​@@eirikrhernandez8860they have a history of not properly vetting their therapists, to the point that known predators were able to continue taking on patients through better help

  • @jerrye.6775
    @jerrye.6775 3 месяца назад +154

    Just want to say that if I was able to watch this in eighth grade science class as a documentary, I see no reason for them to censor and age restrict it here.

    • @catbatrat1760
      @catbatrat1760 2 месяца назад +20

      Well, duh! RUclips isn't for 8th graders, it's for 1.5-year-olds! >:(

    • @DrizzingSakuras
      @DrizzingSakuras 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@catbatrat1760please be sarcasm

    • @nwonknu-
      @nwonknu- 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@DrizzingSakuras Obviously?

  • @tropanealcaloid
    @tropanealcaloid 2 месяца назад +108

    The scientists tried. It may not have been perfect, but she was loved and cared for in the lab. It is sad to think her happiest moments were being a lab rat

  • @Lillebooooo
    @Lillebooooo 3 месяца назад +344

    Dont use better help

  • @VicJang
    @VicJang 3 месяца назад +124

    I haven’t finished watching but here’s a fun fact: in Chinese we call the sliced bread “toast” (吐司), whether it was toasted or not. It’s just called toast for all intents and purposes, as long as they’re sliced and fits in a regular toaster. When I first came to the US a decade ago, I had trouble finding sliced bread in the grocery store because all I knew to look for is toast lol.
    On the other hand, “bread” in Chinese is mostly referring to soft pastry, sometimes with fillings inside, like a chocolate croissant or many Asian pastry found in Chinese and Japanese bakeries.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 месяца назад +2

      Toast as in loanword toast?

    • @marmoth9786
      @marmoth9786 2 месяца назад +3

      in Sweden we usually call a grilled sandwich a toast, especially if it's been in a toasting iron and gotten the distinct triangles! square bread made for toasting is called "roastbread" (rostbröd) and after roasting it's "roasted bread" (rostat bröd) lol. sliced bread is the norm all around, we're instead specific about when it's a whole loaf (limpa).

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +3

      so bread is sweet bread (pan dulce)?

    • @reedy_9619
      @reedy_9619 2 месяца назад +1

      In french it refers to a specific format of bread (sliced bread) made for toasting.
      Bread is the general term for normal bread, so no particular shape or composition.
      But there are many names for the different types of bread.

  • @clarkem.5269
    @clarkem.5269 2 месяца назад +53

    She wasn’t abused “for science”, her “father” abused and isolated her. The scientists tried to help her gain skills she was denied and heal, yes, they learned in the process but it’s extremely dishonest at best to paint the scientists as unethical when they had nothing to do with her becoming this way.

    • @JohnDoe-kf3rd
      @JohnDoe-kf3rd 2 месяца назад +3

      EXACTLY

    • @greyblob1101
      @greyblob1101 24 дня назад +4

      Just a shit situation all around. Horrible parents, terrible foster care system, and the best outcome was for her to be a test subject.

    • @darianbarber3763
      @darianbarber3763 14 дней назад +5

      The unethical part was likely she couldn't voice when too much research was done and when aimless studies could no longer provide data, she was casted aside asap. The failures of foster care created a double whammy.

  • @PavltheRobot
    @PavltheRobot 3 месяца назад +344

    Educational content and documentaries should be treated differently, RUclips is such a bs platform nowadays

    • @cmen6895
      @cmen6895 3 месяца назад +8

      especially pushing BetterHelp on a video about abu- oh, sorry, a***e.

    • @PavltheRobot
      @PavltheRobot 3 месяца назад +5

      @@cmen6895 Ironic, isn't it?

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +1

      maybe but its a private platform. soo you know.

    • @PavltheRobot
      @PavltheRobot 2 месяца назад +3

      @@wind_king-lh8zs You think it would be better if it was run by government?

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +1

      @@PavltheRobot i don't know where you got that from

  • @Arianna-tf5tn
    @Arianna-tf5tn 3 месяца назад +741

    What has this country become? We have to bleep the word abuse? Come on

    • @Anon1gh3
      @Anon1gh3 3 месяца назад +25

      Thanks Susan.

    • @davidlucente6768
      @davidlucente6768 3 месяца назад +53

      They are a global private company lol.

    • @braidennuggies
      @braidennuggies 2 месяца назад +5

      how dare he want to feed his family this week?

    • @mrsauceman5721
      @mrsauceman5721 2 месяца назад +34

      @@braidennuggies They were annoyed at the fact that he even felt the need to do that, not that he did it.

    • @askatuproductions
      @askatuproductions 2 месяца назад +11

      You mean the Youtubian Nation.

  • @rufioh
    @rufioh 3 месяца назад +139

    I didn’t expect to question my understanding of bread

    • @micaelamorrigan2544
      @micaelamorrigan2544 2 месяца назад +7

      That was quite the rant...

    • @SilverishKitten
      @SilverishKitten 2 месяца назад +6

      Am i... the bread?

    • @ArthurKhazbs
      @ArthurKhazbs Месяц назад +2

      @@SilverishKitten You are what you eat

    • @ShaynRiot
      @ShaynRiot Месяц назад +1

      Hella starter getting on my nerves during the 5 minute breads rant

  • @TheJakeSweede
    @TheJakeSweede 3 месяца назад +301

    I heard of this story for the first time many years ago. As far as I understand, she never had any real mental disability- it is all just a result of the abusive upbringing she had since being a baby, being locked in a room with no human contact. My understanding is that she would have been perfectly ordinary, if she had been brought up in a good home. It is hard to express how this story makes me feel.

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад +33

      She did have real mental health issues, it just wasn't genetic, it was more due to nurture instead of nature. Saying it "wasn't real" is problematic at best. Also, given the parents' behavior, it's possible there was also a genetic component.

    • @TheJakeSweede
      @TheJakeSweede 3 месяца назад +52

      ​@@error.418 I didnt say she didnt have mental health issues, I said that as far as my understanding goes she didnt have any real mental disability, IE a medical intellectual disability not caused by her upbrining, like down syndrome. It is obvious what I mean even without your "clarification", my comment is not "problematic" at all.

    • @firempire229
      @firempire229 3 месяца назад +10

      ​@error.418 he said disability. you're just trying to find something to be mad about

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад +7

      @@TheJakeSweede If you read the whole comment, given her parents behavior, it's also possible genetics were involved.

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад

      @@firempire229 No.

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 3 месяца назад +509

    Thank you for reuploading, Susan’s story is important and should not be censored for any reason

    • @FLPhotoCatcher
      @FLPhotoCatcher 3 месяца назад +18

      I downloaded the original video soon after it was published because I knew, just from the title, that it might be censored.

    • @moumantai6337
      @moumantai6337 3 месяца назад +5

      Can't agree more

    • @YouTube.Is.Run.By.Terrorists
      @YouTube.Is.Run.By.Terrorists 3 месяца назад +16

      Censorship is evil. Whoever decided it needed to be censored needs to spend some time in jail for their transgressions.

    • @Baptized_in_Fire.
      @Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@RUclips.Is.Run.By.Terroriststhat's not their only crime. Gallows

    • @IndrasChildDeepAsleep
      @IndrasChildDeepAsleep 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@FLPhotoCatcher How different is it from this one?

  • @tonysolar284
    @tonysolar284 3 месяца назад +116

    I'd rather Call the Therapy Gecko then to reach out to Better Help.

    • @catbatrat1760
      @catbatrat1760 2 месяца назад +5

      There's a therapy gecko?

    • @micaelamorrigan2544
      @micaelamorrigan2544 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@catbatrat1760 yes, the gecko from geico does therapy, don't you know....

    • @catbatrat1760
      @catbatrat1760 2 месяца назад +2

      @@micaelamorrigan2544 Huh...
      Is he good at it, at least?

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +3

      @@catbatrat1760 he has a sothing voice

    • @NightmareRex6
      @NightmareRex6 2 месяца назад +1

      what about the therapy D.O.C?

  • @BlackGryph0n
    @BlackGryph0n 2 месяца назад +45

    I felt your passion in this... It must have been hard, and then to have it censored by RUclips is just maddening.
    Thank you for sharing her story, against all odds.

    • @ironfistgaming8945
      @ironfistgaming8945 2 месяца назад +1

      omg you are here!! what a surprise!! how are people not recognizing you LMAOOOO 🤣

  • @TheDutchMagicTeacher
    @TheDutchMagicTeacher 3 месяца назад +129

    Please dont work with better help, they have on multiple occasions sold data and conversations between users and therapists to advertisers like facebook while users assumed that would be kept confidential.

    • @PainfulCollywobbles
      @PainfulCollywobbles 2 месяца назад +5

      WAIT REALLY!?

    • @PainfulCollywobbles
      @PainfulCollywobbles 2 месяца назад +4

      Thanks for spreading info! Hopefully people see this comment!

    • @TheDutchMagicTeacher
      @TheDutchMagicTeacher 2 месяца назад

      @@PainfulCollywobbles yes, the FTC has fined them $7.8 million for it. You can find it on the official government site of the FTC

    • @morgantorium
      @morgantorium 2 месяца назад +10

      Not just assumed either, Betterhelp explicitly promised that information would be confidential and lied about it.

    • @FyingfoxGaming
      @FyingfoxGaming 2 месяца назад

      @@PainfulCollywobbles yup even the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has sued them last year, then as of May 6 this year BetterHelp had agreed to pay $7.8M with the FTC

  • @KyrieFortune
    @KyrieFortune Месяц назад +12

    The scientists who studied her behavior and development are not abusers, they became her friends and helped her achieve the best life possible under the circumstances given.
    The only abuser shot himself when he was found out tying his daughter to a toilet for 13 years and no human contact.

  • @ericmoses8281
    @ericmoses8281 3 месяца назад +82

    They asked "what can we learn" instead of "how can we heal".
    What she needed more than anything was a father and a mother to adopt her into a home filled with love and instead they raised her in a lab like a rat.

    • @Dice-Z
      @Dice-Z 19 дней назад +4

      She would absolutely not have been able to adapt to a "home filled with love" the way you think.

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 16 дней назад +1

      You're lying and you know it. She was extremely mentally disabled and needed to learn EVERYTHING in order to be able to handle the basics of living inside a home with others taking care of her.

  • @MPS186282
    @MPS186282 3 месяца назад +5410

    Commenting again because BetterHelp is awful.

    • @kroneexe
      @kroneexe 3 месяца назад

      Please shut up already

    • @eyespliced
      @eyespliced 3 месяца назад +226

      he doubled down on it. *_FFS_* what slime.

    • @Somerandomdood-gk2we
      @Somerandomdood-gk2we 3 месяца назад +42

      True

    • @dcklein85
      @dcklein85 3 месяца назад +58

      Source or proof?

    • @speedyjet
      @speedyjet 3 месяца назад +36

      @@dcklein85 yea I wanna see too

  • @ravenwingthecat2707
    @ravenwingthecat2707 3 месяца назад +92

    Oh god not BetterHelp again

  • @ChagrinElectric
    @ChagrinElectric Месяц назад +8

    Better Help is the therapy equivalent of getting your prescription meds from the guy who's always outside at 2am.

  • @blastingoff
    @blastingoff 2 месяца назад +12

    In 2008 it was reported by ABC News that she was, yet again, in psychological confinement as a ward of the state, at 51 years old.
    So heart breaking to hear.

  • @FizzyMoonBeam
    @FizzyMoonBeam 2 месяца назад +29

    Don't use better help

  • @unbreakableunion
    @unbreakableunion 2 месяца назад +22

    The father killed himself. He never got the prison justice he deserved.

    • @hasbruh2987
      @hasbruh2987 2 месяца назад +8

      Hopefully he got a different type of justice

    • @EmotionalParaquat714
      @EmotionalParaquat714 Месяц назад +2

      @@hasbruh2987 Where is his grave?

  • @mister-8658
    @mister-8658 3 месяца назад +95

    The irony that better help would monetize genie as a mascot is palpable.

    • @ArthurKhazbs
      @ArthurKhazbs Месяц назад +2

      Oh, it's all coming together now

  • @mactep1
    @mactep1 3 месяца назад +58

    As always the true villain is the sheer incompetence of the U.S. CPS.

  • @haydengriffiths884
    @haydengriffiths884 3 месяца назад +32

    RUclips censorship was pretty overboard, you would think they would allow this language when it is being used in an educational manner and there wasnt any profanities.

  • @elizabethgrey9157
    @elizabethgrey9157 2 месяца назад +13

    And none of the adults in those foster homes ever got punished for what they did to Genie?!

  • @brandenwatts2931
    @brandenwatts2931 3 месяца назад +20

    Horrible story, it's a shame that Better Help wasn't available in 1970, they could've sold her info to the researchers

    • @Mimimo02
      @Mimimo02 3 месяца назад +4

      If it was, people would have had more time to get abused by therapist
      And thats what they did, so practically, they did have BetterHelp

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад

      they could have given Sussan back to her abusive mother but thankfully that never happened

  • @gabefarris7005
    @gabefarris7005 3 месяца назад +28

    Better help? Really?

  • @intykatgames
    @intykatgames 3 месяца назад +28

    no better help

  • @freckledandred
    @freckledandred 3 месяца назад +156

    Better Help tied me up to a chair for 13 years and leaked my personal data

    • @mothaclysm
      @mothaclysm 2 месяца назад +11

      I wouldn't be surprised

    • @bade7
      @bade7 2 месяца назад +11

      this is not appropriate joke to make

    • @theatticusblade2930
      @theatticusblade2930 2 месяца назад +9

      That’s just messed up it may not be the best therapy but no need to go that far..

  • @Slapbattler666
    @Slapbattler666 3 месяца назад +37

    Video about feral child❌
    Video about bread✅

  • @gungnir2665
    @gungnir2665 3 месяца назад +37

    This should not be silenced

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад

      youtube is a PRIVATE COMPANY this isn't like some government is hiding this.

  • @EphyMusicOfficial
    @EphyMusicOfficial Месяц назад +5

    I'm so sick of RUclips and this kowtowing to new advertiser demands on censoring words like "abuse" or "dead" or "kill." It's... asinine and nonsensical. It's like we're trying to change human nature to be more childish again, because big words like "die" are just too much for us. I'm done. We're not babies.

  • @coopertolbertsmith6067
    @coopertolbertsmith6067 3 месяца назад +67

    Really RUclips??!

  • @EmilyJohnson-ro5iu
    @EmilyJohnson-ro5iu Месяц назад +18

    *STOP SPONSORING BETTERHELP! PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!*

  • @Joeyzoom
    @Joeyzoom 3 месяца назад +191

    I'm sorry the original video was unjustly censored by Google and RUclips. This video clearly has several hours of hard work, research, and editing, and deserves due credit and compensation.

    • @moumantai6337
      @moumantai6337 3 месяца назад +7

      Not to mention the content deserves more attention

    • @q.e.d.9112
      @q.e.d.9112 3 месяца назад +1

      A few more than “several”, IYAM.

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад

      clearly not enough to put a disclaimer.

  • @Ultraw
    @Ultraw 3 месяца назад +22

    Stop promoting betterhelp

  • @dcklein85
    @dcklein85 3 месяца назад +30

    Unjustly and unnecessarily censored.

  • @cartertheiii7103
    @cartertheiii7103 Месяц назад +4

    bro needed the bag from the BetterHelp contract 💀

  • @AndPennyThought
    @AndPennyThought 3 месяца назад +21

    I couldn't believe that in my psychology education they never covered the whole story.

  • @Chriva
    @Chriva 3 месяца назад +60

    I bet you someone reported the thing.
    People just can't stand the fact that humanity stinks

    • @DanFarrell98
      @DanFarrell98 3 месяца назад +8

      I’d hope most people can’t stand that fact, and then seek to change it

    • @XathexX
      @XathexX 3 месяца назад +5

      Humanity includes the depths of depravity as well as the exalted divine. To accept both as part of you is one of the greatest challenges. To accept & conquer it within myself is the first strep. Let's all do better ☮

    • @IQdog-dj4sq
      @IQdog-dj4sq 3 месяца назад +7

      Nah it's probably because better help is an absolute garbage of a company

    • @antagonisticalex401
      @antagonisticalex401 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@IQdog-dj4sqWhat does that have to do with the actual content getting censored?

    • @innocentbystander3317
      @innocentbystander3317 3 месяца назад

      The only reason anyone would want to hide this information is because they themselves have something to hide.

  • @TheSleepSteward
    @TheSleepSteward 3 месяца назад +10

    im just... in shock... it just... got worse and worse every step of the way... how...? where was anyone's humanity or even common sense? i... I dont understand... its so... horrifying that it feels like it belongs in a dystopian novel... its just so absurd...

  • @tashows
    @tashows 29 дней назад +4

    The video is interesting, but honestly it could be 1/3 the length and still be an amazing story.

    • @BobDebon
      @BobDebon 28 дней назад

      yup, very rambly

  • @two_tier_gary_rumain
    @two_tier_gary_rumain 3 месяца назад +16

    Never seen someone get so worked up by bread.

  • @mjg-98
    @mjg-98 3 месяца назад +43

    boooo better help 🍅🍅🍅

  • @nicks4727
    @nicks4727 3 месяца назад +28

    This is incredibly interesting but I cannot express how uncomfortable talking about the abstractions of language makes me. It's a new feeling. And it being inter-cut with the horrible abuse of Genie makes the feeling even stronger. I did not expect this to be a psychological horror video

    • @paulmatisko5090
      @paulmatisko5090 3 месяца назад +6

      Same. I wonder if she was never named. Did she know her name? Her parents thought process etc. What would be different if she never had a name.

    • @MariaCamarena_OneWing
      @MariaCamarena_OneWing 15 дней назад

      Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • @iprobablyforgotsomething
    @iprobablyforgotsomething 3 месяца назад +10

    "you begin to develop an internal monologue using those terms" @ 14:35
    .
    Imo it's maybe more accurate to say we develop an internal, personalized dictionary. An internal, or inner, monologue is usually a term used to refer to something had by people who think in words (as opposed to say, images) to themselves, effectively having a silent conversation with themself. Not everyone has an inner monologue, or a mind's eye (seeing pictures in their head, at will or otherwise).

    • @Dice-Z
      @Dice-Z 19 дней назад

      Internal monologue is not thinking in words or opposed to images, it's just talking to yourself in your mind.

  • @SweetXoXMira
    @SweetXoXMira Месяц назад +6

    Moral of the story crazy scientists are better parents then foster care.

  • @daniellassander
    @daniellassander 3 месяца назад +22

    There is only one greater good and that would had been to protect and slowly heal this innocent child!
    The story of Genie splits my mind into two, on one hand its deep sadness for what happened, and on the other a will to abandon reason and go on a blood rampage that in the end would end up helping no one but the feeling is there. A useless attempt to try to end the world for the unfairness of a world that could allow this to happen to an innocent child.

    • @ironfistgaming8945
      @ironfistgaming8945 2 месяца назад +1

      there is so much more tragedy and injustice in this world and in the past... you just dont know yet, so my advice would be to just calm down and, remember, not everyone gets all the happiness or all the sadness that is there.

  • @loke2534
    @loke2534 2 месяца назад +6

    How are you STILL promoting BetterHelp???

  • @nemesorsi5297
    @nemesorsi5297 3 месяца назад +17

    Better help again? I'm pretty disappointed, so sad to see.

  • @Lifeneverends-pt6kc
    @Lifeneverends-pt6kc Месяц назад +3

    Bro said bro would make me question about bread and bro is not lying

  • @Pinothy
    @Pinothy 3 месяца назад +62

    The uncensored title is "The Feral Child Tied To a Toilet for 13 Years".
    Edit 1: This comment is useless now because the title has been uncensored.
    Edit 2: Why is this the top comment?

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад +4

      That's the title I'm seeing... how is that uncensored?

    • @Pinothy
      @Pinothy 3 месяца назад +4

      @@error.418 It used to be censored but he uncensored it

    • @error.418
      @error.418 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Pinothy Ah, thanks!

    • @Pinothy
      @Pinothy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@error.418 Yw!

    • @DrizzingSakuras
      @DrizzingSakuras 2 месяца назад

      What was the censored title?

  • @gusty7153
    @gusty7153 2 месяца назад +4

    the name for sandwich is in itself a mini history lesson about a nobleman who was essentially a very dedicated gamer that decided to order for slices of bread and cheese for his meal so he wouldn't have to stop playing his card game

  • @scrungles7853
    @scrungles7853 16 дней назад +4

    The father likely had an extreme case of misophonia, and if it was better understood at the time, maybe this all could've been prevented.

  • @DaveLikesLimes
    @DaveLikesLimes 16 дней назад +3

    The scientists' custody battle over Genie was the worst thing for her, I think. Babies (and developmentally that's what Genie was) need one, steady, present-every-day individual or couple of individuals that they can deeply and intensely bond with over a period of several years. Kids need a family and Genie never truly got that. 😢

  • @jamesfunyon6514
    @jamesfunyon6514 14 дней назад +3

    That poor baby :( This is so sad. I wish she could have had different parents. I hope she gets more hugs and affection if she's still around.

  • @collegeman1988
    @collegeman1988 2 месяца назад +6

    Ah yes! BetterHelp, the Uber of therapists. Stay far, far away from them!

  • @WildVee
    @WildVee 2 месяца назад +6

    Seriously? BetterHelp? Have you guys done 0 research about them? Awful.

  • @LoudlyListening
    @LoudlyListening 3 месяца назад +10

    Seriously? Better help?

  • @ultimabear
    @ultimabear 2 месяца назад +5

    Not everyone has an internal monologue.

  • @Daddychillstudio
    @Daddychillstudio 3 месяца назад +26

    I didn’t get the chance to watch the original but I’ll gladly watch this now

  • @cs8712
    @cs8712 3 месяца назад +123

    RUclips can't keep this Genie in a bottle

    • @DuyNguyen-ks8dc
      @DuyNguyen-ks8dc 3 месяца назад +4

      I don't think it's funny to make a joke on a serious topic that needs to be brought to attention and mentioning names like that (it is not even the true name)

    • @guaranteedreducedquality
      @guaranteedreducedquality 3 месяца назад +11

      ⁠@@DuyNguyen-ks8dc Comedy often has roots in very dark places. Jokes allow us to transcend that darkness for a brief moment. I guess if knock-knock jokes are more your style, that’s fine. Just don’t try to police other people’s words bc you’re offended on someone else’s behalf.
      Side note: if you think this topic is so serious, why would you refer to her as “it is not even *the* true name” instead of not *her* name? You’re insulting Susan by referring to her as an object, and I’m deeply offended on her behalf
      (Last one was sarcasm, I know I have to specify that for you, it’s just to show you that your mentality is toxic even within its own boundaries)

    • @wind_king-lh8zs
      @wind_king-lh8zs 2 месяца назад +1

      @@guaranteedreducedquality you have earnd my respect ...i guess

    • @JohnDoe-kf3rd
      @JohnDoe-kf3rd 2 месяца назад

      @@guaranteedreducedquality based

  • @ironfistgaming8945
    @ironfistgaming8945 2 месяца назад +2

    24:45 I had tears in my eyes already but this is where i started crying, how can you beat someone SO SPECIAL 😭

  • @Koceto2011
    @Koceto2011 3 месяца назад +21

    It's the best to watch vsauce at night. It just hits different

  • @Lemonshork999
    @Lemonshork999 8 дней назад +3

    The fact that I’m the same age she was at the time is scary to think about

  • @jorgegamez7822
    @jorgegamez7822 3 месяца назад +46

    RUclips needs to stop these shenanigans

  • @SecretWalrus99
    @SecretWalrus99 3 месяца назад +16

    i am going to stop watching until you drop betterhelp

  • @tzarg
    @tzarg 11 дней назад +3

    the lyric "then she tied me to the wall and stuck a funnel in my mouth then fed me nothing but sauerkraut till' I was 26 and a half years old" is supposed to be fictional.

    • @Hamsterhuman
      @Hamsterhuman 11 дней назад +1

      Ikr 😞 weird as al get out

  • @Mu51kM4n
    @Mu51kM4n 3 месяца назад +77

    We need equal competition to RUclips and Google. Too much power in one company's hands

    • @calibursatsujin3112
      @calibursatsujin3112 3 месяца назад +14

      monopolies ARE allowed if they're big enough, its ridiculous

    • @neonhalos
      @neonhalos 3 месяца назад +3

      problem is that the people need to want to change platforms for it to work. not the content creators, but the viewers. unfortunate fact of the matter is that people don't want to have to go to another platform, even for a creator they really like, bc yt is ingrained in everyone's minds as The Place to go.
      it's never going to happen. people don't like change.

    • @sandrafaith
      @sandrafaith 3 месяца назад +4

      Honestly, it's Google that's the problem. They have long since abandoned their "Don't be evil" credo.

    • @cefcephatus
      @cefcephatus 3 месяца назад +2

      The competition where the referee doesn't care about other competitors won't make any difference. And actually, the referee is part of why a competitor stands out.
      I'm talking about users of the platform, without enough people using it, no one will come to it. They will keep comparing it to the bigger one and it will fail. Only if a new one emerged with a feature out-of-the-box, that the big one can't provide in 2 years that will make it work. Provided that they aren't sold out to the big one at any point in time.
      And you might already know how hard a tech business to sustain in 2 years.

    • @doodoo2065
      @doodoo2065 3 месяца назад +2

      There is competition, it is the users the ones who start making the difference

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo 2 месяца назад +3

    If you are clever you can find Genie, she is doing very well considering all that has happened to her.

  • @antonioe.2396
    @antonioe.2396 3 месяца назад +30

    I saw the original, which was the censored part? Also gonna make it run twice in mute for support

    • @AgentM124
      @AgentM124 3 месяца назад +9

      apparently at 24:26 ish there's the word "feces" censored. Idk if there's other parts too.
      11:25 too "he shot himself"
      3:24 "abuse" (ironically not censored at 11:25)

    • @AgentM124
      @AgentM124 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@iori6723ironic, because at 11:26 they do not censor "abuse".

    • @thelyinggrayson
      @thelyinggrayson 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@AgentM124It didn't have child in front of it, I think.

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@AgentM124that's because the further in the video it (usually) becomes less strict.
      But the sooner you include swearing or "concerning" discussions the faster their system picks up on it.
      Truly, a dogshit function.

  • @cs8712
    @cs8712 3 месяца назад +10

    6:43 Those pieces are called breadlets, or bread nuggets.

  • @nataliexists
    @nataliexists 3 месяца назад +9

    yet another comment hating betterhelp

  • @Leron...
    @Leron... 3 месяца назад +10

    Watching this again and commenting to appease the algorithm so Kevin's efforts get the recognition they deserve.

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. Месяц назад +1

    I feel like this is used as reference for books & scripts, like Poor Things, TNG’s Data and his social and language difficulties, the yellow plastic cape and being tied to a chair as she grew up made me think of the game Little Nightmares. Crazy world. I hope she’s safe now.

  • @banjogyro
    @banjogyro 3 месяца назад +13

    Confinement reminiscent to the morality of [CENSORED BY RUclips]

  • @Convolutedtubules
    @Convolutedtubules 3 месяца назад +14

    BH is not good. Don't believe me, look into it.

  • @aligindahouse7777
    @aligindahouse7777 6 дней назад +3

    I don't blame the researchers and scientists, I blame the foster parents. I wish she had been able to live with Susan Curtiss

  • @VoidsGames
    @VoidsGames 3 месяца назад +6

    Say no to BetterHelp!

  • @Drmcclung
    @Drmcclung 2 месяца назад +3

    Unfortunately this is just how it was for abused American kids back then, treated as property not children or even human. And is still a bit like that even today. From the late boomer era all the way to early millennials some of the worst of the worst experimentation was carried out on orphans/foster kids. Genie's certainly wasn't the first or last, but definitely the most egregious from BOTH sides (her parental abusers, then from the so-called child welfare system). It was so upsetting at the time

  • @Sydney-Casket-Base
    @Sydney-Casket-Base 2 месяца назад +2

    this is the first time even learning what her real name is. i knew it wasnt genie, but i didnt know that her name being susan was public information already

  • @maxflow151
    @maxflow151 3 месяца назад +3

    The censorship is insane. You can commit abuse, but you can't talk about abuse. It's literally the exact opposite of how things should work.

  • @Firemanspanda
    @Firemanspanda 3 месяца назад +3

    I really do believe that people can be horrible or amazingly caring. This is the tale of the caring persons are the smaller quantities.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
    @user-fe8gx3ie5v 3 месяца назад +18

    You misspelled "unjustly" in the beginning. Also, please stop shilling BetterHelp.