Blackie, check out the Alton Goods 3 x 3 (10 x 10) tarp out of Australia, I think you'd love it. Beautiful balance of durability and compactness/lightweight.
Years ago I read in an old book that square tarps were far superior in set up options (and weight of course) to rectangular tarps, like the oh so common 8x10' or 9x12' that flooded the marketplace. I switched to square and have never looked back. Living and hiking in snow country, I much prefer a true 9x9'.
I get the traditional aspect of it, obviously essential for a re-enactor for a certain time period. I don't do any of that! For me it's too small although I'm shorter than you. Wind and weather find their way in on me. I use an Aquaquest 10x13 foot, weighs 2 pounds, has been bomber so far in all seasons, including snow and extreme wind, spring rain, and it has a lifetime guarantee. Great for many configurations with a ton of tie outs. With it and my friend's tarp we made a set up that covered both hammocks, room for our Helinox chairs, fully enclosed and had the Biolite wood stove cranked up inside. Right above freezing with rain and we stayed warm and dry. It would still be fun to have a canvas tarp made out of hemp, that's definitely a traditional material that maybe someday will see a big revival. Thanks for sharing! (edit) Bombproof has a nice website. Says that tarp weighs 6 pounds! Ouch! I'd have to leave my chair, some other gear and all my beer to carry that! LOL
i have a 12 x 12 tarp from onewind that is to cover my hammock that weighs far less than a can of soda and has many tie points on it i can do the closed shelter with it pretty easy.. still after so many years i still really enjoy a canvas tarp
Blackie, if you like a lot of versatile tie-out points, try this. Get some of those magnetic hooks used to hang things on metal walls, they only cost about 80 cents a piece on amazon. Get an equal number of stainless steel washers from the hardware store. See what I'm talking about? You can set up hooks for temporary tie-outs any place on your canvass you want, with the exception of the edge. Not exactly living history, but...
I just bought myself two 10x 10 ft tarps. One has 19 attachment points the 2nd has only 8. Gonna add some more grommets some day or just go with tarp clips. Almost like motel 6 in the woods 😅😅😅
THE best tarp video I've seen, and I've seen a few....I suspect the loop on the tarp is stronger than the usual grommets you see on all these "space age" tarps..THIS is the way to go if you have the right application, ie" carry increased weight and volume. Nice job, Blackie!
A very interesting video, Blackie. Thanks. Unfortunately, I am rather large (6'2", 250#) and, at my age (80), I need more room, so I'll have to stick with my lightweight 10' X 10' tarps. Yeah, I said tarps. Taking a lesson from you (and, of course, Mors), I carry more than one to give me more room and versatility.
Thanks sir for the good video ! ..the last option with the "side"stick is simply and brilliant 😀 especially with a DD tarp 3x3 meter with the same number of ty outs. . Greetings from Holland,
Good video. In my own experience over 50= years of camping/backpacking an 8 x 8 foot tarp is just about the minimum you can get by with and have any degree of comfort, especially if the weather goes bad on you. I'm 6'4" and anything smaller tends to be a bit skimpy in a hard rain/wind weather. There was once a group trip I was on out in the Ventanna Wilderness when I lived out in California where a friend and I combined my 9x9 tarp tent with his 12x12 and a poncho to make what amounted to a truly commodious dome like shelter up on a bench above where most of the group camped that night in a meadow down the slope. The predicted showers turned into a rain of damn near biblical proportions and those camped down below got flooded out during the night. With some ditching courtesy of my partner we were high and dry with if memory serves 8 to 10 people who got flooded out in with us. The rain lasted well into the next day during our trip back out to the trailhead and nobody got back to the cars completely dry. One for the memory book...
@@jksurvivalbushcraft Minimum of 8x8 and larger is better if the weight isn't a problem - canvas gets really heavy fast and backpacking some variety of a nylon tarp is much lighter. All a matter of how much weight you are willing to carry. That night in California the tarps were coated nylon - the silicon impregnated stuff wasn't around back then....
Blackie I have an 8-ft 6in square tarp I bought that when the army Navy store and it don't have half the loops you got but I've had it since the 90s and I still use it today
Blackie , Another Great Video and Outstanding Information on uses a tarp , Thanks for sharing information is very useful . I sent you and others the information about Friedman's Army-Navy- Outdoors in Nashville, TN. Not sure that it went through please let me know if you didn't get it , I can resend it. Thanks Again . You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter . Thanks Again . Tim L. P.S. The gentleman that waited on me knows Blackie Thomas and your channel.
Great tarp video Blackie as always!!! Looking forward to more of your videos. I really like that tarp I look into it for my future camp outs. Thanks Blackie have a great day 👍👍👍
yeah that one set up i'd need a 10 x10 being 6'5"! i'm with you about being on the ground blackie over time that's become more of a pain especially around here for some reason the wild lawyer (AKA snake) population has exploded over the last 2 decades or so! mainly cotton mouths and a few copperheads but they found an eastern diamondback for the first time in over 15 years a couple back so who knows how many of those are around now! don't know if you'd be interested in it but about a month ago the nighthawk in light channel had video on do it yourself silicone treatment and a couple years back william collins did an oil cloth video!
@@sparrowflying864 i'm lucky to turn this F ing thing on and find things relatively quick! i RARELY order anything over the net (twice in my life and i'm 53 this month!!) prefer using cash over a card, the last video game i played was an arcade model at a store vestibule that went out over 30 years ago the last home model was an Atari 2600 and that was before 89, i tossed the smart phone and went back to a burner a month after getting the stupid thing and still have a VCR! links to things is one of many things i never learned to do!!
Interesting video..! I will say that for anyone under 6 foot, an 8x8 tarp will do. For those of us over 6 foot the coverage and comfort of an 8x8 tarp goes down exponentially! The web site states that this tarp will generally average an extra 6 to 9 inches in size and weighs in at 6 pounds. At 5'10" it's easy to see how this tarp fits you. It would be interesting to see the actual measurements of your tarp! Thanks for the video...
The loops hanging off the sides look to give it about an extra five inches in every direction so it's probably closer to 8'10" if you consider the tie downs. Doesn't seem like much but having those hang off instead of being grommets cut through really adds something to the "stretch" factor.
This is alot like what I'm trying to do. I only have a 6x8 canvas tarp rn though. I plan to take a 8oz drop cloth and make a bivy sack like nessmuk describes and waterproof them both as a shelter system. Then I'll head out to Apalachicola NF to test it out
I might have missed it, do you utilize any coatings or treatments with canvas? If so I'm sure it varies by seasons? I know real canvas thread counts are not drop cloths canvas, I just struggle finding anything that last that's not as much as my car.
Jay with OPSG, we make the tarps. It’s made of 10.10oz Army Tent Duck, boat shrunk and SUNFORGER TREATED. It’s mold, mildew and water resistant coating. Only thing better is wax treatment, which we offer. However, truth be told by the time this is worn out, you will probably be looking for an RV to replace it, not another tarp.
I saw a guy make a silicone coating on his. He wast taking cotton and coating it with standard silicone in a tube diliting it 4 to 1 in solven soak hang and dry.
hope you enjoy the video.... thanks for watching
Excellent instruction. Tarps offer a world of possibilities.
they really do
Another Homerun Blackie!! Absolutely my favorite RUclips channel!
Appreciate that
Blackie.... "The Wiseman of the Woods"
Blackie, check out the Alton Goods 3 x 3 (10 x 10) tarp out of Australia, I think you'd love it. Beautiful balance of durability and compactness/lightweight.
Years ago I read in an old book that square tarps were far superior in set up options (and weight of course) to rectangular tarps, like the oh so common 8x10' or 9x12' that flooded the marketplace. I switched to square and have never looked back. Living and hiking in snow country, I much prefer a true 9x9'.
I get the traditional aspect of it, obviously essential for a re-enactor for a certain time period. I don't do any of that! For me it's too small although I'm shorter than you. Wind and weather find their way in on me. I use an Aquaquest 10x13 foot, weighs 2 pounds, has been bomber so far in all seasons, including snow and extreme wind, spring rain, and it has a lifetime guarantee. Great for many configurations with a ton of tie outs. With it and my friend's tarp we made a set up that covered both hammocks, room for our Helinox chairs, fully enclosed and had the Biolite wood stove cranked up inside. Right above freezing with rain and we stayed warm and dry. It would still be fun to have a canvas tarp made out of hemp, that's definitely a traditional material that maybe someday will see a big revival. Thanks for sharing! (edit) Bombproof has a nice website. Says that tarp weighs 6 pounds! Ouch! I'd have to leave my chair, some other gear and all my beer to carry that! LOL
i have a 12 x 12 tarp from onewind that is to cover my hammock that weighs far less than a can of soda and has many tie points on it i can do the closed shelter with it pretty easy.. still after so many years i still really enjoy a canvas tarp
@@BLACKIETHOMAS I keep looking at them or consider making my own but can’t get past the weight. The older I get the more titanium I buy!
Blackie, if you like a lot of versatile tie-out points, try this. Get some of those magnetic hooks used to hang things on metal walls, they only cost about 80 cents a piece on amazon. Get an equal number of stainless steel washers from the hardware store. See what I'm talking about? You can set up hooks for temporary tie-outs any place on your canvass you want, with the exception of the edge. Not exactly living history, but...
thanks for the info
I just bought myself two 10x 10 ft tarps. One has 19 attachment points the 2nd has only 8. Gonna add some more grommets some day or just go with tarp clips. Almost like motel 6 in the woods 😅😅😅
THE best tarp video I've seen, and I've seen a few....I suspect the loop on the tarp is stronger than the usual grommets you see on all these "space age" tarps..THIS is the way to go if you have the right application, ie" carry increased weight and volume. Nice job, Blackie!
thanks for watching
A very interesting video, Blackie. Thanks. Unfortunately, I am rather large (6'2", 250#) and, at my age (80), I need more room, so I'll have to stick with my lightweight 10' X 10' tarps. Yeah, I said tarps. Taking a lesson from you (and, of course, Mors), I carry more than one to give me more room and versatility.
10x10 would be a good choice for you then
Contact Bombproof Bushcraft we can get them for ya
Yup, that was worth my time. Great video. Always enjoy your vids. Nice job
Awesome, thank you!
Good demonstration. Nice tarp . Haven’t been to Rumble in a while. Need to visit her channel. Have a great evening
Thanks 👍
thank you for the detailed explanations and the show me process that you use. unbelievably helpfull
You're very welcome!
Interesting.
Glad you think so!
Good information Blackie, thank you. My favorite tent was made of canvass. I will check out tarps now since most new canvass tents are very expensive.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks sir for the good video ! ..the last option with the "side"stick is simply and brilliant 😀 especially with a DD tarp 3x3 meter with the same number of ty outs. .
Greetings from Holland,
Thanks for sharing
Awesome, Blackie! Your videos are right up my alley! And I always learn new tips and tricks from you! GREAT VIDEO!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks Blackie!
Any time!
Thank you for sharing Blackie
Thanks for listening
Nice video. I went to the website. Will need to save my money for this 8X8, It is the best I've seen. Thanks for sharing.
its a investment for sure but it will last many yrs
Excellent video Blackie. Love your old 10X10 setup.
thanks it served me well for many yrs
We can do 10x10 contact Bombproof Bushcraft.
@@jayhercules3451 I checked the website no 10x10 option available
What would the price be on one?
Well done.
thank you
Definitely going to have to get me one of these.
hope you have many yrs of adventures with it
Thanks for the good video. I enjoyed watching.
Thanks for watching
Good video. In my own experience over 50= years of camping/backpacking an 8 x 8 foot tarp is just about the minimum you can get by with and have any degree of comfort, especially if the weather goes bad on you. I'm 6'4" and anything smaller tends to be a bit skimpy in a hard rain/wind weather. There was once a group trip I was on out in the Ventanna Wilderness when I lived out in California where a friend and I combined my 9x9 tarp tent with his 12x12 and a poncho to make what amounted to a truly commodious dome like shelter up on a bench above where most of the group camped that night in a meadow down the slope. The predicted showers turned into a rain of damn near biblical proportions and those camped down below got flooded out during the night. With some ditching courtesy of my partner we were high and dry with if memory serves 8 to 10 people who got flooded out in with us. The rain lasted well into the next day during our trip back out to the trailhead and nobody got back to the cars completely dry. One for the memory book...
Sounds like a great trip. At 6’4” what size tarp do you recommend?
@@jksurvivalbushcraft Minimum of 8x8 and larger is better if the weight isn't a problem - canvas gets really heavy fast and backpacking some variety of a nylon tarp is much lighter. All a matter of how much weight you are willing to carry. That night in California the tarps were coated nylon - the silicon impregnated stuff wasn't around back then....
@@charlesroth986 ty for the reply, always getting peoples different perspectives.
thanks for the comment
@@jksurvivalbushcraft
I agree with Charles Roth.
If you are taller than 6 foot.. go bigger. At 6'5" my minimum is 10x10 to still be comfortable.
Excellent video.I enjoyed it,loved the wall tent trick.I am going to
get the book tarp setup. Keep
up the great work.Thanks
Have fun!
Great video
Thanks!
Nice video Blackie - My favorite sleeping system by far is a 10x10 tarp. Very nice looking tarp.
Thanks 👍
Jay with OPSG.
Get with Bombproof Bushcraft we will get ya the size ya need.
Good stuff Blackie!
Much appreciated
Nice tarp Blackie. I like that you can totally enclose it into a tent formation. That's great. Thanks for the video.👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Blackie I have an 8-ft 6in square tarp I bought that when the army Navy store and it don't have half the loops you got but I've had it since the 90s and I still use it today
you can add small loops to yours to add set ups
Blackie , good video and tips , thanks for sharing ,God bless !
Glad you enjoyed it
nice!
Blackie , Another Great Video and Outstanding Information on uses a tarp , Thanks for sharing information is very useful . I sent you and others the information about Friedman's Army-Navy- Outdoors in Nashville, TN. Not sure that it went through please let me know if you didn't get it , I can resend it. Thanks Again . You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter . Thanks Again . Tim L. P.S. The gentleman that waited on me knows Blackie Thomas and your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great tarp video Blackie as always!!! Looking forward to more of your videos. I really like that tarp I look into it for my future camp outs. Thanks Blackie have a great day 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Outstanding brother.. another home run..!
Thanks for the visit
yeah that one set up i'd need a 10 x10 being 6'5"! i'm with you about being on the ground blackie over time that's become more of a pain especially around here for some reason the wild lawyer (AKA snake) population has exploded over the last 2 decades or so! mainly cotton mouths and a few copperheads but they found an eastern diamondback for the first time in over 15 years a couple back so who knows how many of those are around now! don't know if you'd be interested in it but about a month ago the nighthawk in light channel had video on do it yourself silicone treatment and a couple years back william collins did an oil cloth video!
Post the links for us. Thank you.
@@sparrowflying864 i'm lucky to turn this F ing thing on and find things relatively quick! i RARELY order anything over the net (twice in my life and i'm 53 this month!!) prefer using cash over a card, the last video game i played was an arcade model at a store vestibule that went out over 30 years ago the last home model was an Atari 2600 and that was before 89, i tossed the smart phone and went back to a burner a month after getting the stupid thing and still have a VCR! links to things is one of many things i never learned to do!!
i am friends with william and that bed sheet to tarp video was a very cool idea
Very informative video on a great piece of kit. Bombproof! 👍👍
Thanks! 👍
Damn Nice Tarp.
thanks
Great stuff! Thank you!!!
My pleasure!
Interesting video..!
I will say that for anyone under 6 foot, an 8x8 tarp will do. For those of us over 6 foot the coverage and comfort of an 8x8 tarp goes down exponentially!
The web site states that this tarp will generally average an extra 6 to 9 inches in size and weighs in at 6 pounds. At 5'10" it's easy to see how this tarp fits you. It would be interesting to see the actual measurements of your tarp!
Thanks for the video...
yep a 10x10 would work better for you
The loops hanging off the sides look to give it about an extra five inches in every direction so it's probably closer to 8'10" if you consider the tie downs. Doesn't seem like much but having those hang off instead of being grommets cut through really adds something to the "stretch" factor.
THANK YOU
thanks for watching
Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Thanks for watching!
This is alot like what I'm trying to do. I only have a 6x8 canvas tarp rn though. I plan to take a 8oz drop cloth and make a bivy sack like nessmuk describes and waterproof them both as a shelter system. Then I'll head out to Apalachicola NF to test it out
safe journeys
Looks like an outstanding tarp or sure..
i think so
Hi Blackie! I really like this 8x8 and what one can do with it. Thanks for showing.
glad to help
I don’t see from their web site where they sell Your Tarp !! H.
Sorry figured it out !! H.
thanks for watching
Best tarp iv seen in a long time from maddys bombproof ?
yes it is
I might have missed it, do you utilize any coatings or treatments with canvas? If so I'm sure it varies by seasons? I know real canvas thread counts are not drop cloths canvas, I just struggle finding anything that last that's not as much as my car.
it is factory treated from the maker so its ready to go when ya get it
Jay with OPSG, we make the tarps.
It’s made of 10.10oz Army Tent Duck, boat shrunk and SUNFORGER TREATED.
It’s mold, mildew and water resistant coating. Only thing better is wax treatment, which we offer. However, truth be told by the time this is worn out, you will probably be looking for an RV to replace it, not another tarp.
I saw a guy make a silicone coating on his. He wast taking cotton and coating it with standard silicone in a tube diliting it 4 to 1 in solven soak hang and dry.
8×8 makes more sense to me than a 5x7 unless your real short.
very true the 8x8 is the best size if you want to go small 10x10 is super room and a 12x12 is a full family type of thing
Looks like a great tarp. Does it need to be waxed or treated to help with water proofing?
nope fully treated from the maker
Jay with OPSG, we make these.
It’s SUNFORGER treated.
Not showing the tarp on their website must have discontinued it.
Talks to much about irrelevant bs! Just sayin......
yep guilty as charged
Zip Code for Friedman's Army-Navy-Outdoors and Surplus in Nashville, TN is 37212 .
thanks
Great video
Thanks for the visit