Last time I checked, BASF, Volkswagen, and BMW were still increasing investment in China. But Volkswagen plans to close its German factory. Intel puts German plant plans on hold.
BASF''s new €10bn plant in Southern China is full steam ahead. It is closing plants in Germany though. DW is a German channel, or it reports to the US States Dept?
They're reinvesting earnings gained in China, not investing money from outside China. That's mostly due to how difficult it is to export earnings from China.
I guess the short term promise of increased profit margin for lower wage and regulation doesn't balance out the eventual certainty of your IP being stolen, your supply chain cut out from under you and your company replaced with a replica
They can't compete because it's not a level playing field. And, youtube should be able to filter out comments from bots like these just based on the name format
@@bubblebobble9654where in the world have you ever seen a level playing field ? The free market was a lie all along and donald Trump was honest enough to show it
China have no worries. If , for example, Nestle left…..there will be many companies who will rush to fill the void. If Adidas left……the Chinese consumers will buy LiNing or other Chinese brands. Trade is a win win. The Chinese inflation is low …..the consumers are loaded up with bank savings. If European companies left ….there will be other brands rushing to fill the void.
Actually in my eyes Nestle should just leave everywhere and disappear into the abyss. I think you would need to further explain why other companies would fill any voids. Chinas preconditions to enter the market are not good while China wants full access to everywhere else’s. I don’t need to explain why this can’t work right. China has a burst real estate bubble, a recession, the roi in foreign investment is under estimations. At the same time the tensions in the south Chinese sea tensions are rising. I wouldn’t bet money on self filling voids.
Yeah thats not how the economy in China is actually working. You’re pretending that China being in a Balance sheet recessions from being massively underwater in property value means Chinese consumers are free to spend money. Except they aren’t doing that and are instead experiencing deflation because they are not spending on anyone’s stuff let alone imports.
@@ANTheWhizkid Open your mind and read more independent media. Western media are biased . Look at their report of the Ukraine war. You are an obviously troubled person.
Companies living China maybe because they can compete. China is now the only country that has brands matching western brands : Huawei vs Apple ; BYD vs Tesla; WeChat vs Facebook + instagram + twitter; Amazon vs taobao ; aws vs alibaba cloud etc… Basically they setup the belt and road initiative to push their champions out of country
China has already developed their own companies and brands that they do not need those foreign brands any longer other companies like Apple and etc… have gradual share decrease due to stiff market competition. Why should the mainland Chinese buy products by foreign brands if they already have their own? Just like Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea prefers to buy their own products, China’s path is switching to that direction as well.
@@Cam4Cameron Europeans prefer to live in their illusion bubbles and refuse the fact China has been far ahead of them. Nobody wants to stole outdated tech or IP from you.
Actually, most of foreign companies get difficult is just simply that their product is not competitive anymore comparing with domestic products,Ike VW, not really just simply economic struggling.
@@ANTheWhizkid The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
makes you feel a whole lot better saying that huh? this is western media baby... its suppose to make you feel like china is going to collapse in 5 minutes. its to prevent westerners from feeling completely useless. Crazy thing is, if you search DW videos... they have been singing the same tune about china for the past 8 years. LOL
exactly. all I know, every company that win the competition in china increase their investment, those who loose: quit. of course certain group of people love to spin the story. who increase their investment? bmw, merc, & friends, and also basf, those are the big ones.
All the big European brands will in the end be forced out by the local Chinese brands when all their technology is being transferred to the Chinese. European brands simply cannot compete with the cheapness of the Chinese brands.
@@thegreatdane3627 Chinese long term inflation rate is 1.66% over the years. It's registering 0.6% currently. You can define inflation in a favourable way. But will the frustrated consumers in Europe accept a good economic explanation?
@@TheKkpop1 most people get an annual wage increase as part of their employment contract. Here in Denmark, the increase is negotiated between workers unions and employers organizations. Most people only notice when inflation is unusually high, like in 2022.
if you are chinese,you can go search on any website,there are several former economic experts who has official background delivering speech and talking about "how to proof the risk of economy going deflation",if you are knowing the chinese government enough,such behavior were connived and can strongly indicating the deflation😅 @@TheKkpop1
@@MithunOnTheNet India best achievements so far India's Hunger index 2013: 63rd rank 2022: 107th rank India's Happiness index. 2013: 111th rank 2022: 136th rank India's press freedom rank 2013:79th 2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest democracy is no more India's unemployment rate 2013:4.9% 2023:7.5% Unemployment rate never increase in growing economy.. india is growing only on paper and by loan India's Debt before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore 2023: ₹155 lakh crore India's GDP from 2004 to 2014: $709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple) India's GDP from 2014to 2024: $2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even double
@@mikestewart4752 Chinese economy continues to grow at 5% despite challenges. You don't have logistics facts. Do you??? Btw do you know Russia economy is doing much better than Germany recession.???
@@igoldenage We all know the good news Pinoy lives on women who work as maid in Taiwan, HK, China, Singapore and overseas to feed their husband and family.
@@ANTheWhizkid the big german companies(automobile, chenistry, steel,..) invest in china and usa, and noone invests in germany. thats that. and no wonder.
Last time I checked, BASF, Volkswagen, and BMW were still increasing investment in China. But Volkswagen plans to close its German factory. Intel puts German plant plans on hold.
Humanity is a joke when civilised western value started the major global wars (1st and 2nd world wars). They are staging more wars besides war in Ukraine, probably 3rd world war too.
@@NeidlichesSchwertDid you not hear what he said at the end? Despite things not as good as it once was China is still an attractive country to invest.
@@NeidlichesSchwert The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
Running a business is like boxing. There will always be new boxers on the scene, and they might even be your own students. You have to keep training and keep getting better. Otherwise, you would lose your title. Nothing is forever.
Do you know what Invisible Champion Corporation is? 2024 German enterprises' investment in China has broken the previous record. Do you know that China's production equipment has been comprehensively upgraded? Is it the people on this channel that give you enough confidence?🤦♀️
Crucial question for big businesses are 1) are you confident in your abilities to win competitions in China? 2) Can you afford not to invest in China? 3) What other markets you have to get if you exit China market?
@@peterliu2961 good questions!! The question (3) is brutal…for companies like Apple, how can you justify trillion dollar market cap if you lose the Chinese market?
@@thegreatdane3627 😂😂 the 3-letter agencies have been sloppy with their recruitment lately… between maduro, Trump and their anti China troll brigade … the level of competence is staggering!! Way to go brother. I can’t knock the hustle
China is a market with diminishing returns and is protected. European companies are in a bind because their own market is shrinking while production costs aren't competitive with China or even North America.
The US economy is growing despite its leadership. New leadership would accelerate growth. Long term, North America has the demographics, energy, food and industrial capacity to just ignore the rest of the world and still have growth.
@@regina-vb5ikIf you're talking about reverting to Republican administration, that's not necessarily a good idea. It's like driving a car -- merely going faster tends to bring harder crashes, especially as they usually do so through loosening controls instead of tightening directions.
@@banksiasongThe world outside of China needs to read and ACKNOWLEDGE the history of our roles in keeping China down for SO long- -Opium Wars and forcing cheap illegal opium grown in India onto China in order to take their silver bullion in 'exchange', consequent 'War reparations' by stealing Chinese lands; the horrific, vengeful and unnecessary burning of the Summer Palace; widespread racist murders of low-pay Chinese labourers seeking work to feed their families The west needs to wake up to the responsibilities WE have to China for the crimes of our forebears.
The true is that foreign firms in China face stiff competition from their Chinese competitors in Chinese market and abroad. They are not winning in Chinese market and retreat to less competitive market in their home country.
this is what they called " domestic fight" , they "kill" their domestic competitors, consumers just want to pay as little as they can, chinese nationals have no faith in Xi's management
Chinese companies only survive because of massive government handouts and subsidies. They could never compete with higher quality Western companies if they didn't have those handouts.
The advanced economies finally seem to have realized that China is not interested in playing by the established customs and rules for international trade. Its too bad because Chuna integrated in the world economy would be good. But China doesnt want to move to a level playing field, so it isnt going to happen.
The examples given at the beginning are all due to failure in competition with domestic company resulting in insufficient profit to support further investment, which is not convincing considering German investment in China just reach a record high a few months ago according to Reuters.
@@thegreatdane3627 Denmark is not a very densely populated country, but none the less, over 500 of their companies are on the Chinese market. But when you’re reading danish news papers then you’ll know that the Chinese market seems to have recently become very unattractive for them as well.
You cannot mention any failures without pointing out where they did them. But in parts you’re right. Of course we know it’s about profit margins and not about the turnover. Vw does that because and this is my assumption in the future they want money from the government and they always open the wallet when too many work places are at risk. It’s a buildup. Welcome to the show.
China is the biggest investor all over the world. China is the biggest exporter of goods. Therefore, it needs no foreign investor in China. China is investing in other countries.
The conclusion is a bit short sighted and you would of course need to specify the markets, point out figures, etc. which you can’t because in chinas current situation, they’re not there. Like this it’s just an empty phrase.
@@dangdaiwu4690 Look Google should not need to comply with Chinese censorship it is ridiculous that it would because Google stands up for freedom of information and against censorship
@@LucaPro-g7elol are you serious. A company much comply with local law if they want to operate. It’s funny you think a US cooperation is the beacon of freedom.
Cars, mobile phones, laptops, etc, due to the intensified competitions among Chinese companies, the price is much lower to buy home-made brands than foreign brands. There are more and more machine-managed works. A lot of low-tech industries use robots rather than human. Robots are everywhere, in hotels, in restaurants, on the road (replacing taxi), factories. In the high-tech field, it is different.
*China🇨🇳 have border/maritime disputes with Taiwan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Bhutan, Japan, India, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei.* make border/maritime agreement & Peace!
India best achievements so far India's Hunger index 2013: 63rd rank 2022: 107th rank India's Happiness index. 2013: 111th rank 2022: 136th rank India's press freedom rank 2013:79th 2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest democracy is no more India's unemployment rate 2013:4.9% 2023:7.5% Unemployment rate never increase in growing economy.. india is growing only on paper and by loan India's Debt before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore 2023: ₹155 lakh crore India's GDP from 2004 to 2014: $709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple) India's GDP from 2014to 2024: $2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even double
India is rising as the US shifts its business there from China. Same with Vietnam, Mexico etc. Nice to see the EU finally waking up. Even tho the EU is destroying its car market by allowing cheap heavily subsidised Chinese imports.
Apple+Foxconn learn a lesson in India ? iphone 16 need to return to assemble in China Taiwan's Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker and Apple's biggest iPhone assembler, said it plans to invest 1 billion yuan ($137.5 million) to construct a new business headquarters in Zhengzhou, central China's Henan Province.
Who give u those news foxconn already invested and ready to setup plant while there's no official news about apple going to invest that much in china if yes then give me source
Not one word about human rights or worker exploitation, just pearl-clutching over unaccountable investors getting less money for doing nothing. Small-minded, boring people.
@@banksiasongOr the nature of missing the entire segment about cotton and slave labor. Capitalism didn't allow slave labor. The Chinese government did.
But it is true. What you hear is not always what’s really going on. This is about China not about other countries. China has become a risk for investors and that’s a fact.
@@ANTheWhizkid The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
how did DW make such a conclusion? the reality is exactly the opposite, there are no better places in China that are more attractive in the world… the only reasons that some western companies are leaving is that they can not compete with Chinese domestic rivals…
The hype is over, but it was already overdue long ago. Also, the short term gains for long term increased competition was obvious already some 20 years ago. That is nothing new. But somehow, the longevity of companies never seems to be a high prio.
The main thing is production: tech and facilities. You take Nike shoes, change the label - here's your Anta. There you go: Chinese ANTA and 361 are already in the NBA✅️ Many U.S. and EU companies will struggle now: China is changing labels on everything, and everything is made in China. The U.S. and EU corporate has won some quick big bucks, but the countries have lost in the long run, layoffs are coming in waves, watch it.
Due to recently announced economic stimulus policies, China's CSI 300 Index rose 15.7% last week. It jumped another 8.5% this Monday. (Technology and healthcare stocks, especially, helped spark the rally.) This is its best day since the "great recession" of 2008, when China bailed out the United States of America. Never sell the Chinese short!!
everyone is eyeing the next market and their next consumers. after all, china is still the world second largest economy and its consumer market is bigger than singapore + japan + south korea market combined. I would bet i am selling more in china market than I do with the japanese market in term of profit and volume.
But why would you wanna compare China to Japan and what would the point be that you wanna make with it? The news are more about Europes investment into the Chinese market, don’t you think?
Really? According to a April's Reuters article, VW plans to invest U$ 2.7 billion to expand its production and innovation hub in the city of Hefei in Anhui Province. Indeed the China bashers' bubble world is quite different from the real world 😂
Big company has to look for customers. If you can't fight in competitive market then withdraw. China population is 1400 million and you don't want to sell them then go to Lithuania or Finland.
Companies such as Mitsubishi Motors are exiting the Chinese market because their vehicles are no longer competitive there, and Honda is expected to follow suit. IBM's departure is driven by Washington's restrictive tech export policies; in response, Beijing has chosen to phase out IBM mainframes nationwide to minimize the risk of disruption if IBM can no longer provide support due to government actions. As China ascends the value chain, I foresee that some businesses will relocate, much like they did decades ago when they sought more cost-effective manufacturing bases overseas.
Come to NA :D Mexico population pyramid is looking gorgeous, US has the benefits of being... well the US, and Canada is perfect for high tech and energy investments.
Everyone seeing this video knows the position of DW.. just DW never officially announced it. There are different parallel worlds in RUclips, we must realise this. Never too serious and please keep giving funny comments.
The most competitive ones stays and the rest are simply beaten out of the Chinese market. I work in chemical industry, the European and American suppliers are long beaten out of the Chinese market, where back in 2000 they had no competition and was dominating the market.
I’m so grateful I’d only allocated a small amount of my portfolio into the CSI 300 . literally everything else I’ve invested in the last decade has done better than that inside-joke of an economy.
This concludes is evident for observers.The national security issue is positioned in more important than how to prompt economic development for incumbent rulers of CCP.Xi Jinping’s administration inclined to focus more on uphold totalitarian rule rather than keep going on the strategy of opening and reforming.I think this is an absolutely truth.
It is quite simple . If a company does not want to be present in China , don’t . Others may choose differently . VW plans to close factories in Germany because of lack in demand in Europe not because of risk in China . VW’s challenges in China are for different reasons. Not unlike Japan where Japanese auto manufacturers are the market leaders it stands to reason that Chinese Automakers were eventually going to become the market leaders in China The same is true for the USA .
The automotive history in Japan is just bigger, they didn’t need to play a catch up game and they have always been open to other markets. Despite’s Japanese cars with German parts sell really good in America and Europe itself. VW is not crying because they cannot offset their expenses so nicely anymore and because their turnover is bad. They’re doing this because the profit margins are getting smaller and the dividends smaller. It’s a luxury problem, don’t misunderstand that. They only make a big wave to get money from the state. What people are talking about are base requirements to enter the Chinese market. Compared to Chinas opportunities granted on foreign markets, they are bad. Despite’s of this the situation in the Chinese sea is getting tense and companies know what China does with them in a case of national emergency. They cease them. After all the risk for investors is getting higher, China is in recession and they just suffer from a burst real estate bubble, etc. it is not as simple as you say. Please cross read more international news articles.
The days of making easy money in China are over. You have to be competitive (values and fits for Chinese customers) in China market to prosper. Chinese market becomes the most competitive market in the world.
Full of BS. If it's true China restricted market access, intellectual property issues, vague investment rules, then why they went to China in the first place?
Out of touch with economical or scientific reality? IP is impossible to control in China for 2 reasons: 1) You gotta give your IP to the CCP directly if you want or not; if not, you gotta leave. 2) You cannot file claims because courts need years to proceed with your claim or don’t do at all because of backup of the government. => Better to leave the Chinese market at all and squeeze out all your IP from China. Easy as that.
Did you get hit in the head? Forget about the concept of time, how change works. Who are these bizarre grade-school logical fallacies meant to convince?
@@julianskinner3697 The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
“Cull ALL the Birds!”-Mao Zedong “Egg Fried Rice anyone?-Mao Anying “Me like left nostril most!”-Mao Xinyu “I’LL plan the economy!”-Mao Jinpork “China is safest county in world!”-Xu Ganlu “Corruption is rampant in China!”-Victor Gao
It is only the losers who cannot win the competition that leave, otherwise it is their loss to leave China. China has the best infrastructure in the world, the best industrial workers, an efficient and clean government, abundant and low-cost energy, and of course, the most populous market.
Europe faces a clear tradeoff: accessing the Chinese market versus protecting the EU single market from Chinese competition, which can be managed through tariffs. But this is distinct from the larger issue-the global competition with China for exports is only intensifying. To succeed, we must focus on improving our competitiveness, not on blaming China for unfair practices. Many countries, particularly those with colonial histories, don’t see Europe as a victim or China as a bad player. From my global work experience, it’s clear that Europe’s soft working conditions, including limited working hours, are no longer sustainable in today’s competitive landscape. Furthermore, the relatively low salaries for top talent and engineers, compared to minimum wage jobs, fail to incentivize people to pursue higher education, weakening our competitive edge even more. Europe urgently needs to streamline bureaucracy, shift away from excessive socialism, and focus on investing in high-value industries that can boost exports. The reality is European companies are losing market share, and without decisive action, the outlook will remain bleak
it is a hard decision for EU company to stay in China, not bcoz of IP issue or other bs. But because the competition is so intense here. Every company need to keep agile, innovate and work hard in order to stay in the game. So it makes a lot of sense for CEOs to leave China, they can keep a good looking 2024 report without investing future and challenge themselves. But, what will happen after a few years. Just look at the EV market and the solar panel market. You know the answer.
Good news for Chinese customers, local brands will quickly fill the hole with reasonable priced clothings and low-tech to mid-tech products, nobody gives a dime about europe's leave.
In times of a recession China probably needs cheap money from outside. Nobody is against Chinese people or them increasing their social wealth. It’s about their gov and how they grant foreign companies access to the Chinese market / under which conditions and how China itself wants to act on foreign markets. That does not correlate.
You should come here for your first time, visit us and figure out it’s different to what you’re saying. It’s a lovely place where people enjoy a lot of freedom and rights. You can be and live like you want to and be happy.
I think China prefers their own products nowadays….
Do you think?
If they have enough disposable income to buy it
main reason is their salaries fall， jobs cut
@@Batucadax
China saving is amongst highest countries in the world whilst Americans have highest mortgage rate, if they can afford ones. 😂😂😂😂
@@ericf1461 How can they save if they can't find work, got laid off, or haven't been paid in 9 months?
Good news for the EU
Bad news for the consumers.
VW is expensive
@@Memovox Its great for consumers, more jobs, more value retained in country, enriched consumers can afford more
@@Memovoxless consuming and more EU. We have enough products here, dont be a soyboy.
@@nymuelovan Do you think you'll pay more for your basic needs..? (Hint, you already do and it will only get worse).
Last time I checked, BASF, Volkswagen, and BMW were still increasing investment in China.
But Volkswagen plans to close its German factory.
Intel puts German plant plans on hold.
DW is living in a parallel universe apparently.
BASF''s new €10bn plant in Southern China is full steam ahead. It is closing plants in Germany though. DW is a German channel, or it reports to the US States Dept?
They're reinvesting earnings gained in China, not investing money from outside China. That's mostly due to how difficult it is to export earnings from China.
@@herman9255Funded from earnings in China that can't be easily removed.
@@regina-vb5ik this tell you are not in the china manufacturing business
DW has received its share of 1.6 billion dollars. Good for them.
And me too.
Actually we all have.
Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund lol
They are milking it…😂 who can blame them tho ?
@@ANTheWhizkid
It is a big business to demonise Chinese nowadays.
Fun fact, if you had invested 100 Dollars in the Shanghai index in November 2006, today you would have had 100 Dollars.
You mean that China is only just a 'fool's gold' paradise. Yep.
really? are you sure you do not have any debts?
Chinese bonds are the best performing bond investment in the past decade
Plus the loss of inflation. So investing in China is a loss.
@@ttemp2631 Evergrand overseas investors would not agree to that statement
One by one, the more forward thinking companies are pulling out of China.
I thought BASF and BMW are moving to China, not the other way round. 😂
DW is living in a parallel universe apparently.
They're reinvesting prior earnings from China, which isn't "moving to China".
@@regina-vb5ik lol you're kid
@@regina-vb5ikRight, it's not _new_ investment into the PRC.
Western firms are leaving china
I guess the short term promise of increased profit margin for lower wage and regulation doesn't balance out the eventual certainty of your IP being stolen, your supply chain cut out from under you and your company replaced with a replica
Chinese top the world in patent rights since 2019. Do they need to steal? Get a brain...
Người Trung Quốc có cần phát minh lại bánh xe không?
@@nguyenbaokhanh2005
Is there anything invented by Vietcong???
That is exactly what you will happen, if you have a successful product to sell.
😅Doesn't that mean they're just unable to compete so they withdraw like General Muthor did?
Not it doesnt mean that. I mean the part that made some sort of sense.
does that make you feel better? A 29% drop in FDI is a 29%drop, no matter the reason why...
They can't compete because it's not a level playing field.
And, youtube should be able to filter out comments from bots like these just based on the name format
@@bubblebobble9654 Lol, you can't compte dude
@@bubblebobble9654where in the world have you ever seen a level playing field ? The free market was a lie all along and donald Trump was honest enough to show it
China have no worries.
If , for example, Nestle left…..there will be many companies who will rush to fill the void.
If Adidas left……the Chinese consumers will buy LiNing or other Chinese brands.
Trade is a win win.
The Chinese inflation is low …..the consumers are loaded up with bank savings.
If European companies left ….there will be other brands rushing to fill the void.
Actually in my eyes Nestle should just leave everywhere and disappear into the abyss. I think you would need to further explain why other companies would fill any voids. Chinas preconditions to enter the market are not good while China wants full access to everywhere else’s. I don’t need to explain why this can’t work right. China has a burst real estate bubble, a recession, the roi in foreign investment is under estimations. At the same time the tensions in the south Chinese sea tensions are rising. I wouldn’t bet money on self filling voids.
Well it seems they're really saving it and not spending it and that's part of the problem.
Yeah thats not how the economy in China is actually working. You’re pretending that China being in a Balance sheet recessions from being massively underwater in property value means Chinese consumers are free to spend money. Except they aren’t doing that and are instead experiencing deflation because they are not spending on anyone’s stuff let alone imports.
@@ANTheWhizkid
Open your mind and read more independent media.
Western media are biased .
Look at their report of the Ukraine war.
You are an obviously troubled person.
Companies living China maybe because they can compete. China is now the only country that has brands matching western brands : Huawei vs Apple ; BYD vs Tesla; WeChat vs Facebook + instagram + twitter; Amazon vs taobao ; aws vs alibaba cloud etc… Basically they setup the belt and road initiative to push their champions out of country
No to China
They just can't compete
You can't compte so you try try and try then pay the media to discredit them
do you know anyone who owns a Mitsubishi car?
@@MetaView7it’s a very reputable Japanese car manufacturer. Very popular for their pajero models . You should check it out
If the business can't compete with the local ones, then it makes sense to exit.
China has already developed their own companies and brands that they do not need those foreign brands any longer other companies like Apple and etc… have gradual share decrease due to stiff market competition. Why should the mainland Chinese buy products by foreign brands if they already have their own? Just like Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea prefers to buy their own products, China’s path is switching to that direction as well.
“Developed” is a funny way of saying “stole IP and trade secrets” 🤔
atm they are not buying ANYTHING, domestic or foreign. Thats why they bet everything on exports.
I just choose the brands whose quality and price are balanced, and it is kind to its employees. No matter it is foreign brands or Chinese brands.
@@Cam4Cameron颯筆一個
@@Cam4Cameron Europeans prefer to live in their illusion bubbles and refuse the fact China has been far ahead of them. Nobody wants to stole outdated tech or IP from you.
Actually, most of foreign companies get difficult is just simply that their product is not competitive anymore comparing with domestic products,Ike VW, not really just simply economic struggling.
@@fangtom9128 the Chinese economy ist struggling right now with no growth in the relevant sectors
They just can't compete
A superficial statement without usable arguments. You’re out.😊
little red in the chat lol
@@ANTheWhizkid The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
makes you feel a whole lot better saying that huh? this is western media baby... its suppose to make you feel like china is going to collapse in 5 minutes. its to prevent westerners from feeling completely useless. Crazy thing is, if you search DW videos... they have been singing the same tune about china for the past 8 years. LOL
exactly. all I know, every company that win the competition in china increase their investment, those who loose: quit. of course certain group of people love to spin the story. who increase their investment? bmw, merc, & friends, and also basf, those are the big ones.
All the big European brands will in the end be forced out by the local Chinese brands when all their technology is being transferred to the Chinese. European brands simply cannot compete with the cheapness of the Chinese brands.
Five straight quarters of deflation (according to the National Bureau of Statistics of China).
Versus 2 years of inflation in the west. What is going on? Who's suffering most on inflation, deflation, recession or growth??
@@TheKkpop1inflation is normal, most countries aim for an inflation rate around 2% per year.
@@thegreatdane3627
Chinese long term inflation rate is 1.66% over the years. It's registering 0.6% currently.
You can define inflation in a favourable way. But will the frustrated consumers in Europe accept a good economic explanation?
@@TheKkpop1 most people get an annual wage increase as part of their employment contract. Here in Denmark, the increase is negotiated between workers unions and employers organizations. Most people only notice when inflation is unusually high, like in 2022.
if you are chinese,you can go search on any website,there are several former economic experts who has official background delivering speech and talking about "how to proof the risk of economy going deflation",if you are knowing the chinese government enough,such behavior were connived and can strongly indicating the deflation😅 @@TheKkpop1
Western firms, despite all the IP theft, still was okay with trading with China?
Shortsighted capitalists fool themselves into believing it's just the cost of doing business there.
@@MithunOnTheNet India best achievements so far
India's Hunger index
2013: 63rd rank
2022: 107th rank
India's Happiness index.
2013: 111th rank
2022: 136th rank
India's press freedom rank
2013:79th
2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest
democracy is no more
India's unemployment rate
2013:4.9%
2023:7.5%
Unemployment rate never increase in growing
economy.. india is growing only on paper and by
loan
India's Debt
before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore
2023: ₹155 lakh crore
India's GDP from 2004 to 2014:
$709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple)
India's GDP from 2014to 2024:
$2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even
double
This is good news. And I'm from Ph 🇵🇭
But it's not true, unfortunately.
Ya this media platform is lying lol. I went to China 3 times in the past year and big business are booming in China.
@@igoldenageWhat is your proof? I work in international logistics and YES YES, it is happening. Faster than we thought was possible. China is done. 🤦
@@mikestewart4752
Chinese economy continues to grow at 5% despite challenges. You don't have logistics facts. Do you???
Btw do you know Russia economy is doing much better than Germany recession.???
@@igoldenage
We all know the good news Pinoy lives on women who work as maid in Taiwan, HK, China, Singapore and overseas to feed their husband and family.
in fact big business is not eyeing, but doing, germany exit.
Interesting. Could you elaborate on that?
@@ANTheWhizkid the big german companies(automobile, chenistry, steel,..) invest in china and usa, and noone invests in germany. thats that. and no wonder.
Volkswagen is investing +10bn dollars in China while laying off workers in Germany …
@@ANTheWhizkid Do you not know how to use Google?
Last time I checked, BASF, Volkswagen, and BMW were still increasing investment in China.
But Volkswagen plans to close its German factory.
Intel puts German plant plans on hold.
Every company should support human rights, humanity first.
Humanity is a joke when civilised western value started the major global wars (1st and 2nd world wars). They are staging more wars besides war in Ukraine, probably 3rd world war too.
US has biggest prison working population in world.. you should know facts
Well, Europeans kind of started imperialism, and use slavery...
Yes! Israel?
Israel?
Please make videos based on facts and figures rather than on perceptions and assumptions.
Mmm...cope. Yum, yum, yum.
But what if your truth is not the of others?
@@NeidlichesSchwertDid you not hear what he said at the end? Despite things not as good as it once was China is still an attractive country to invest.
@@NeidlichesSchwert I guessed you failed listening comprehension lol
@@NeidlichesSchwert The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
Running a business is like boxing. There will always be new boxers on the scene, and they might even be your own students. You have to keep training and keep getting better. Otherwise, you would lose your title. Nothing is forever.
how many little reds will there be in this chat kicking off? part of the problem
Do you know what Invisible Champion Corporation is? 2024 German enterprises' investment in China has broken the previous record. Do you know that China's production equipment has been comprehensively upgraded? Is it the people on this channel that give you enough confidence?🤦♀️
@@后宫后 "Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund" in action. They can't help themselves
Anglo sinophobia at it's "finest"
"little reds"? It seems to me you are the problem.
@@fongpontoGermany is "Anglo" now?
Crucial question for big businesses are 1) are you confident in your abilities to win competitions in China? 2) Can you afford not to invest in China? 3) What other markets you have to get if you exit China market?
@@peterliu2961 good questions!! The question (3) is brutal…for companies like Apple, how can you justify trillion dollar market cap if you lose the Chinese market?
the chinese market where 47% of the population makes less than $10 per day?
@@thegreatdane3627 😂😂 the 3-letter agencies have been sloppy with their recruitment lately… between maduro, Trump and their anti China troll brigade … the level of competence is staggering!! Way to go brother. I can’t knock the hustle
China is a market with diminishing returns and is protected. European companies are in a bind because their own market is shrinking while production costs aren't competitive with China or even North America.
@@Pause_café_Avec_Dr_DjonDoes that mean 47% don't earn under $10?
The U.S economy is not heading in a more positive direction it's heading for an economic slowdown.
If they choose the economic dullard Trump, they’ll be headed for financial catastrophe.
The US economy is growing despite its leadership. New leadership would accelerate growth. Long term, North America has the demographics, energy, food and industrial capacity to just ignore the rest of the world and still have growth.
@@regina-vb5ikIf you're talking about reverting to Republican administration, that's not necessarily a good idea. It's like driving a car -- merely going faster tends to bring harder crashes, especially as they usually do so through loosening controls instead of tightening directions.
@@doujinflip What is known are the results of the current leadership. That's not necessarily a good thing. Central planning rarely is.
@@banksiasongThe world outside of China needs to read and
ACKNOWLEDGE the history of our roles in
keeping China down for SO long- -Opium Wars
and forcing cheap illegal opium grown in India
onto China in order to take their silver bullion in
'exchange', consequent 'War reparations' by
stealing Chinese lands; the horrific, vengeful and
unnecessary burning of the Summer Palace;
widespread racist murders of low-pay Chinese
labourers seeking work to feed their families
The west needs to wake up to the responsibilities
WE have to China for the crimes of our forebears.
The true is that foreign firms in China face stiff competition from their Chinese competitors in Chinese market and abroad. They are not winning in Chinese market and retreat to less competitive market in their home country.
What ever helps you cope, wumao 😄
this is what they called " domestic fight" , they "kill" their domestic competitors, consumers just want to pay as little as they can, chinese nationals have no faith in Xi's management
Chinese companies only survive because of massive government handouts and subsidies. They could never compete with higher quality Western companies if they didn't have those handouts.
The advanced economies finally seem to have realized that China is not interested in playing by the established customs and rules for international trade. Its too bad because Chuna integrated in the world economy would be good. But China doesnt want to move to a level playing field, so it isnt going to happen.
The examples given at the beginning are all due to failure in competition with domestic company resulting in insufficient profit to support further investment, which is not convincing considering German investment in China just reach a record high a few months ago according to Reuters.
FDI into China is down 29% year over year. German companies are the only ones who are shortsighted enough to invest in China...
@@thegreatdane3627 Denmark is not a very densely populated country, but none the less, over 500 of their companies are on the Chinese market. But when you’re reading danish news papers then you’ll know that the Chinese market seems to have recently become very unattractive for them as well.
You cannot mention any failures without pointing out where they did them. But in parts you’re right. Of course we know it’s about profit margins and not about the turnover. Vw does that because and this is my assumption in the future they want money from the government and they always open the wallet when too many work places are at risk. It’s a buildup. Welcome to the show.
@@thegreatdane3627
I don't know what Denmark can contribute to the world economy.
@@TheKkpop1 what is that even supposed to mean?
China is the biggest investor all over the world. China is the biggest exporter of goods. Therefore, it needs no foreign investor in China. China is investing in other countries.
The conclusion is a bit short sighted and you would of course need to specify the markets, point out figures, etc. which you can’t because in chinas current situation, they’re not there. Like this it’s just an empty phrase.
Good luck!
LOL! Yeah that's how that works. Reality much ?
china do not need german car any more. the door is there
Are China and the US co dependent in trade terms?
I mean to be fair China has already had economic problems for a long time even when Google exited China back in 2010
Good point
That’s because Google didn’t want to obey the obligations of China😅
Are you being funny? From 2010 to 2020, China experienced the fastest development during this period!
@@dangdaiwu4690 Look Google should not need to comply with Chinese censorship it is ridiculous that it would because Google stands up for freedom of information and against censorship
@@LucaPro-g7elol are you serious. A company much comply with local law if they want to operate. It’s funny you think a US cooperation is the beacon of freedom.
Very helpful nuanced coverage without dipping into unhelpful relativist coverage. Thank you.
Cars, mobile phones, laptops, etc, due to the intensified competitions among Chinese companies, the price is much lower to buy home-made brands than foreign brands. There are more and more machine-managed works. A lot of low-tech industries use robots rather than human. Robots are everywhere, in hotels, in restaurants, on the road (replacing taxi), factories. In the high-tech field, it is different.
I don’t see how EU is any much better in economic performance.
@@vinchino it's actually growing while china's market is shrinking
*China🇨🇳 have border/maritime disputes with Taiwan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Bhutan, Japan, India, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei.*
make border/maritime agreement & Peace!
India best achievements so far
India's Hunger index
2013: 63rd rank
2022: 107th rank
India's Happiness index.
2013: 111th rank
2022: 136th rank
India's press freedom rank
2013:79th
2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest
democracy is no more
India's unemployment rate
2013:4.9%
2023:7.5%
Unemployment rate never increase in growing
economy.. india is growing only on paper and by
loan
India's Debt
before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore
2023: ₹155 lakh crore
India's GDP from 2004 to 2014:
$709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple)
India's GDP from 2014to 2024:
$2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even
double
if the data isn't looking good, just don't publish it
India is rising as the US shifts its business there from China. Same with Vietnam, Mexico etc. Nice to see the EU finally waking up. Even tho the EU is destroying its car market by allowing cheap heavily subsidised Chinese imports.
1.4 billion can't win a paris olympic gold said it all.
@@TheKkpop1 😂😂 that’s brutal!
@@TheKkpop1
They don’t play those games fact is this one
Apple+Foxconn learn a lesson in India ? iphone 16 need to return to assemble in China
Taiwan's Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker and Apple's biggest iPhone assembler, said it plans to invest 1 billion yuan ($137.5 million) to construct a new business headquarters in Zhengzhou, central China's Henan Province.
With the chip and tooling embargo, that's going to be fleeting.
Who give u those news foxconn already invested and ready to setup plant while there's no official news about apple going to invest that much in china if yes then give me source
Not one word about human rights or worker exploitation, just pearl-clutching over unaccountable investors getting less money for doing nothing. Small-minded, boring people.
Such is the nature of Capitalism.
Do you think German company like VW, BASF, DBANK, STARBUCKS, AUDI, Apple, PORSCHE, BMW and Mercedes employ forced labour in China?
Except he did mention human rights issues. Quite a few words.
@@banksiasongOr the nature of missing the entire segment about cotton and slave labor. Capitalism didn't allow slave labor. The Chinese government did.
For human rights issues you should worry about the US, where 150people get shot every day
That is not ture. No big companies can resist the China tempt. Instead, I heard many big companies are considering moving out of Germany, e.g. VW.
But it is true. What you hear is not always what’s really going on. This is about China not about other countries. China has become a risk for investors and that’s a fact.
@@ANTheWhizkid The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
If pinks show up screeching irrational you know it is right
Big companies are not considering moving out of Germany, they have already left before it's too late.
@@igoldenage no one is leaving 😂
Yeah they’re moving to Vietnam ir Indonesia 😂 it’s not like the West is going to reindustrialise!
how did DW make such a conclusion? the reality is exactly the opposite, there are no better places in China that are more attractive in the world… the only reasons that some western companies are leaving is that they can not compete with Chinese domestic rivals…
Germany has a bright future, just look at BASF and volkswagen.
The hype is over, but it was already overdue long ago. Also, the short term gains for long term increased competition was obvious already some 20 years ago. That is nothing new. But somehow, the longevity of companies never seems to be a high prio.
The main thing is production: tech and facilities. You take Nike shoes, change the label - here's your Anta. There you go: Chinese ANTA and 361 are already in the NBA✅️ Many U.S. and EU companies will struggle now: China is changing labels on everything, and everything is made in China. The U.S. and EU corporate has won some quick big bucks, but the countries have lost in the long run, layoffs are coming in waves, watch it.
Starbucks is way too expensive compared to local brand (even more expensive than in its home market), and usually the local brands taste better
Due to recently announced economic stimulus policies, China's CSI 300 Index rose 15.7% last week. It jumped another 8.5% this Monday. (Technology and healthcare stocks, especially, helped spark the rally.) This is its best day since the "great recession" of 2008, when China bailed out the United States of America. Never sell the Chinese short!!
everyone is eyeing the next market and their next consumers. after all, china is still the world second largest economy and its consumer market is bigger than singapore + japan + south korea market combined. I would bet i am selling more in china market than I do with the japanese market in term of profit and volume.
But why would you wanna compare China to Japan and what would the point be that you wanna make with it? The news are more about Europes investment into the Chinese market, don’t you think?
Really? According to a April's Reuters article, VW plans to invest U$ 2.7 billion to expand its production and innovation hub in the city of Hefei in Anhui Province. Indeed the China bashers' bubble world is quite different from the real world 😂
Big company has to look for customers. If you can't fight in competitive market then withdraw. China population is 1400 million and you don't want to sell them then go to Lithuania or Finland.
Companies such as Mitsubishi Motors are exiting the Chinese market because their vehicles are no longer competitive there, and Honda is expected to follow suit. IBM's departure is driven by Washington's restrictive tech export policies; in response, Beijing has chosen to phase out IBM mainframes nationwide to minimize the risk of disruption if IBM can no longer provide support due to government actions. As China ascends the value chain, I foresee that some businesses will relocate, much like they did decades ago when they sought more cost-effective manufacturing bases overseas.
Chinese cars ar ebetter than Japanese? Yeah right. LOL!
@@gardencity3558 Chinese people believe that Nissan and Toyota are far better than Mitsubishi or Honda based on sales figures.
At least our phones don't explode 😂
Good. Economics can be more powerful than weapons.
"" No Trust ""
Come to NA :D Mexico population pyramid is looking gorgeous, US has the benefits of being... well the US, and Canada is perfect for high tech and energy investments.
Nice try
Everyone seeing this video knows the position of DW.. just DW never officially announced it.
There are different parallel worlds in RUclips, we must realise this.
Never too serious and please keep giving funny comments.
Exiting China and separating the supply chains to China vs Everywhere else
China owns the supply chain 😆
I would say great risk, no reward, they force you to give them the knowledge then use it to compete with you.
The most competitive ones stays and the rest are simply beaten out of the Chinese market. I work in chemical industry, the European and American suppliers are long beaten out of the Chinese market, where back in 2000 they had no competition and was dominating the market.
That is a positive outlook when the universe is not under dead threat by the treacherous
I’m so grateful I’d only allocated a small amount of my portfolio into the CSI 300 .
literally everything else I’ve invested in the last decade has done better than that inside-joke of an economy.
DW should also declare it is managed by the US States Dept
This concludes is evident for observers.The national security issue is positioned in more important than how to prompt economic development for incumbent rulers of CCP.Xi Jinping’s administration inclined to focus more on uphold totalitarian rule rather than keep going on the strategy of opening and reforming.I think this is an absolutely truth.
woh, seems that the USA had not mentioned national security issue and did not ban HUAWEI
Ironic since alot of European companies go to Beijing now lol
Because those “big businesses” were too complacent hence lost their competitiveness in China.
Good. China is a country not a business . Chinese companies are better
What have u created ? Nothing
It is quite simple . If a company does not want to be present in China , don’t . Others may choose differently . VW plans to close factories in Germany because of lack in demand in Europe not because of risk in China . VW’s challenges in China are for different reasons. Not unlike Japan where Japanese auto manufacturers are the market leaders it stands to reason that Chinese Automakers were eventually going to become the market leaders in China The same is true for the USA .
The automotive history in Japan is just bigger, they didn’t need to play a catch up game and they have always been open to other markets. Despite’s Japanese cars with German parts sell really good in America and Europe itself. VW is not crying because they cannot offset their expenses so nicely anymore and because their turnover is bad. They’re doing this because the profit margins are getting smaller and the dividends smaller. It’s a luxury problem, don’t misunderstand that. They only make a big wave to get money from the state. What people are talking about are base requirements to enter the Chinese market. Compared to Chinas opportunities granted on foreign markets, they are bad. Despite’s of this the situation in the Chinese sea is getting tense and companies know what China does with them in a case of national emergency. They cease them. After all the risk for investors is getting higher, China is in recession and they just suffer from a burst real estate bubble, etc. it is not as simple as you say. Please cross read more international news articles.
💜🇲🇳🇭🇰🇲🇴🇨🇳🇹🇼💜
Republic of China
The days of making easy money in China are over. You have to be competitive (values and fits for Chinese customers) in China market to prosper. Chinese market becomes the most competitive market in the world.
DW, why did you delete the original video and re uploaded this one? Let me quess, people in the comments were calling you out on your bull****!
"Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund" in action, they received their share
Full of BS.
If it's true China restricted market access, intellectual property issues, vague investment rules, then why they went to China in the first place?
Profits used to be higher in China
Are we having problems to accept? You need to be less angry. Once you calmed down, you will be ready to see the truth.
Out of touch with economical or scientific reality? IP is impossible to control in China for 2 reasons: 1) You gotta give your IP to the CCP directly if you want or not; if not, you gotta leave. 2) You cannot file claims because courts need years to proceed with your claim or don’t do at all because of backup of the government. => Better to leave the Chinese market at all and squeeze out all your IP from China. Easy as that.
Did you get hit in the head? Forget about the concept of time, how change works. Who are these bizarre grade-school logical fallacies meant to convince?
@@julianskinner3697 The answer is simple, the western companies, especially which are existing China, cannot compete with the domestic companies. What IBM, US car companies, VW can offer? The companies which are competitive are still going strong in China such as Tesla. The reporter blame the exit due to China economy? What a farce.
Meanwhile, german investment in china is at a record high level. According to dw only. 😂😂😂
Help, the European are we thinking. Not the end of the world.
“Cull ALL the Birds!”-Mao Zedong
“Egg Fried Rice anyone?-Mao Anying
“Me like left nostril most!”-Mao Xinyu
“I’LL plan the economy!”-Mao Jinpork
“China is safest county in world!”-Xu Ganlu
“Corruption is rampant in China!”-Victor Gao
🤣🤣
the Pooh Bear loud-mouthed that "absolute power correlates with absolute corruption ". Gao Zhikai may be disappeared real soon
It is only the losers who cannot win the competition that leave, otherwise it is their loss to leave China. China has the best infrastructure in the world, the best industrial workers, an efficient and clean government, abundant and low-cost energy, and of course, the most populous market.
Decoupling
Didn't work
Decouple, Decouple.
Europe faces a clear tradeoff: accessing the Chinese market versus protecting the EU single market from Chinese competition, which can be managed through tariffs. But this is distinct from the larger issue-the global competition with China for exports is only intensifying. To succeed, we must focus on improving our competitiveness, not on blaming China for unfair practices. Many countries, particularly those with colonial histories, don’t see Europe as a victim or China as a bad player.
From my global work experience, it’s clear that Europe’s soft working conditions, including limited working hours, are no longer sustainable in today’s competitive landscape. Furthermore, the relatively low salaries for top talent and engineers, compared to minimum wage jobs, fail to incentivize people to pursue higher education, weakening our competitive edge even more.
Europe urgently needs to streamline bureaucracy, shift away from excessive socialism, and focus on investing in high-value industries that can boost exports. The reality is European companies are losing market share, and without decisive action, the outlook will remain bleak
2% of 1.6 billion getting cashed soon I guess
it is a hard decision for EU company to stay in China, not bcoz of IP issue or other bs. But because the competition is so intense here. Every company need to keep agile, innovate and work hard in order to stay in the game.
So it makes a lot of sense for CEOs to leave China, they can keep a good looking 2024 report without investing future and challenge themselves.
But, what will happen after a few years. Just look at the EV market and the solar panel market. You know the answer.
@@odysliu9102 then why are all the products from China so bad? 😂
Brace yourself boi
huge Blame Game is coming
Beardsley's the best.
You mean totalitarian states are risky at best ? Russia, China, .... Who would have ever known.....
Let me know when VW exits, DW news.
Good news for Chinese customers, local brands will quickly fill the hole with reasonable priced clothings and low-tech to mid-tech products, nobody gives a dime about europe's leave.
@@jemler3speak China would completely crumble if a company like basf would leave
At what cost, DW?
😂 If Eastern Standard Time is on the east coast of the United States, then who is the West really? ✌️🤣♟️ULA
How about China kick VW out of Chinese market?
can they survive in Chinese markets? Shameful report
The problem is there are no other place can replace China as prime manufacturing country .
Nahhh....do you want money or not 😑😑😑
Good looking anchor!
This is good Chinese domestic companies. Money will stay at home.
In times of a recession China probably needs cheap money from outside. Nobody is against Chinese people or them increasing their social wealth. It’s about their gov and how they grant foreign companies access to the Chinese market / under which conditions and how China itself wants to act on foreign markets. That does not correlate.
India is a better place for these companies to go.
Says nobody ever
Are we talking about vw or basf?😂😢
ANTthewhiskey is in almost all comments
Now you see me. Now you don’t.
It didn't work that well se he is going to create a much powerful one
No
Is BASF an European company?
but Germany opanies happy to invest bllions as there export import tags lies with CHina , even though Germny government has come with China Policy
Life in the West is really good, you just have to talk nonsense to have a decent life
You should come here for your first time, visit us and figure out it’s different to what you’re saying. It’s a lovely place where people enjoy a lot of freedom and rights. You can be and live like you want to and be happy.
"Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund" in action, nothing to see here