AMD is doing what NVIDIA won’t! AFMF Explained!
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2024
- NVIDIA has been relying on DLSS advancements to stay way ahead of AMD, but what happens when AMD catches up and makes a driver level super sampling available to ALL GPUS?!?
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I like Phil. Leave him alone! He is a funny dude behind the camera. Once he warms up in front of the camera a bit more, he is gonna rock it!
I need more PhilsTwoCents
He rocked it in this video, already!
He is showing more and more of his personality for every video he does. He is going to be a star if he keeps it up 🤩
Literally nobody is complaining. Stop looking for fights where there are none.
i haven't touched him, its just nasty rumor.
Phil we love you! get well soon Jay
@@RedOptics hehehe
There's nothing wrong with this man.
i love videos with phil... he does it really well!
true
He is a hell of a lot more intelligent than his poop humor would suggest. Jay and Phil seem like amazing and genuine ppl.
@@christophermullins7163 a person only as genuine as people around him.... so having good person like phil say"s alot
I like adding the Twocents to the end of the names on this channel PhilTwoCents has a nice ring to it
Phil my brain with information
Then that would be PhilzTwocents. Nice ring
Now add MaBawlz
Haven't tested it yet, but I really like the fact that AMD just said "here's the feature, and anyone who owns a recent-ish card from us can use it at no additional cost". Am looking forward to seeing whether it will make a difference on any of the games I play, most of those are either already running very smooth or way too old to use this (although I use a DX11 renderer for a 23 year old game, that could be interesting)
That and there's people who make hybrid drivers out of these new updates, to work on older outdated cards... so even more slightly older cards too.
AFMF can be made to run on Vulkan also. And given DXVK can be made to run DirectX8 (eight) and newer, quite a lot of games it can be used on
Appreciate the video. Also appreciate using a midrange card rather than the beasts that most content creators use while telling everybody not to buy them. Makes experience much more useful rather than just a showcase of what the tech CAN do, but not what most people will likely get out of it.
Also didn't realize it supported RDNA2. I'll have to play around with it on my TV system with a 6750XT hooked up to a 4K 120Hz display.
This exactly, I have a 6700XT and was pleasantly surprised to get information immediately relevant to me.
yeah i didn't know it supported RDNA2 as well. i hate the resolution scaling crap but may just play with frame gen a little anyways with my RX6800 in FS20.
I'm that customer with the 6750XT what a good gpu for the price it's been this video was awesome
Doing great Phil! Love to see ya doing more presenting in front of the camera. Keep it up!
Rest up Jay and good job Phil 👏🏻
Yes, sitting down at a table and talking to a camera really takes a toll on you.
The ifixit ads are the ONLY ads i will ever watch and enjoy i swear
It never gets old, I love it too 😂
I bought 2 sets due to loving the ads
Great job, Phil. I like your style :) Your actual hands-on experience with these tests comes through along with your understanding of how it actually works. and I appreciate actually knowing what the video was about based on the title instead of clickbait BS.
Good Job Phil. I hope you feel better soon Jay.
I fix it needs to realize that Jay is graded the greatest commercials for these guys. His commercials live rent free in my brain. Every time I see it I fix it kit, I hear I fix it in the joy rage voice
The slomo cam was genius. Good to illustrate your point 4:17
Get well soon, Jay
Great job, Phil! I enjoyed seeing you on camera. Make sure we see more of you! And tell Jay we said hi.
phil, you did an amazing job standing in for jay! hope to see more of you on the channel, any one who wants to keep this channel and its community going through difficult times is a winner in every regard!
Whats wrong wirh jay?
hes not very well, he made a video about it dude,@@HappyDude1
I think the disabling on large movements is mostly to prevent it from trying to interpolate between different camera shots for cutscenes and such. It'd be nice if they had a setting to tweak the sensitivity or turn it off on a per-game basis
This exactly. I get they don't want it making a ton of mistakes but the constant on and off effect has been shown to create micro stutters which is way worse than the difference between 60 and 90 fps or whatever it would push a game to. I love what they're trying to do but I struggle to see use cases for it outside of maybe a game like cities skylines or something that's pretty static.
@@SpartanArmy117the microstutters are only really relevant in competitive games like CS2 and Val. I’ve been using AFMF since release and it works really well playing GTA, Apex (surprisingly), FF7 Remake; the only games ive been playing besides CS2 FWIW. The auto disabling isn’t even noticeable.
My goodness Phil looks short in that chair compared to Jay 😂
lol
He definitely is. Jay is 6’4” I think and Phil is in the low 5 foot range if I remember right
@@jolness1 Phil is 5'2". Look at the past video where they're at Microcenter and they stood next to a cutout of Shaq.
@@glenyoung1809 Phil wears 3.54 inch lifts in his shoes.
Hi Phil! Love seeing more videos where you host! Hope to see more!
Phil if you were just doing your first video on your channel that would have been enjoyable too, but knowing you are doing it and helping out Jay so he can focus on his health. Makes it extra warm and fuzzy. Thanks. As you do more videos I’m sure your giggle we love will come out even more. :)
Wow - great performance of Phil. One suggestion: Try to look a bit more often in the cam. Your vocal skill is just absurdly great. So well usage of language - so much knowledge - such a pleasure to listen to you.
Also your body language was great - just the eyes could be more often looking in the cam. Probably something that is very weird if you are not used to it. Cause... its... just a f***ing cam, I guess 😀
Anyway - would like to get more information from you about hardware related software.
Keep up your great work. Thumbs up.
Had the same thought, felt a bit weird watching. Content in general was very good, just the eyes that felt a bit off, but like you said it's probably because he's not used to it. It will come, we definitely need more Phil on camera!
I was interviewed once by a TV team and they told me *not* to look directly into the camera but simply at the dude interviewing me since it was set up like a normal conversation. Friggin' hard not to look lol
@@Konrad-z9w Hear me out, they should make a cardboard cutout of Jay's face and stick it to the bottom of the camera lens for him to talk to.
Pocket sized Jay is back. Oh Yeah!!
Like seeing Phil behind the camera - a great perspective!
Nice work on this Phill.
Been loving this frame Gen tbh it has helped out alot on gpu usage as well for games that don't utilize gpu much like neverwinter for me went from using 35-55% gpu utilization now it's at that magic number of 99%. I will say latency wise I haven't seen more then 5ms so I'm not sure why your test show so high. I will say to test with enhanced sync and windowed full screen instead of exclusive.
The thing AMD doesn't mention officially is AFMF also works with Vulkan games Red Dead Redemption 2 and Ghost Recon Breakpoint are the games I tested and it works, little bit glitchy at first though, might have to toggle the full screen or borderless fullscreen a few times and then it finally kicks on. also AFMF works best on 1440p high HZ variable monitors or a 4k variable monitor that has a high HZ and you can get over 60FPS on the games, locking the FPS to 60 or higher WITHOUT USING VSYNC will make the experience better, I been testing it since the first beta driver.
oh nice, may have to test it in xplane 11 for shits and giggles.
Videos dense with information, like this one, are much appreciated. Using a high speed camera to capture the latency was interesting to see.
Jay looks so different with his glasses on! Great Video Phil, I love how relatable you make it for someone like myself who is an amatuer enthusiast 👍 Hope your feeling alright Jay and wishing you well 🥰
Thanks Phill, just went and updated my 7800xt
I have an RX 7800XT it doesnt work to well with games that are on UE 4 with loading stutters
@@northernclubanthems factory reseet and try optimizing for quality in the profile. It should so the rest on it's own
Phil’s 2 cents. 😂😂😂😂
I don’t like using frame generation, but Phil made a great video, he’s not as goofy as Jay but good to watch.
I hope Jay is doing great, normally I wouldn’t watch a vid on Frame Gen but I still want to support the channel.
Great video, Phil! I had no idea this came out, I might need to give it a try!
I love Phill's videos, it goes straight to the point, mention everything I would like to know, well done !
We need a Phil GPU review in DougDemuro style now.
Complete with quirks&features, test ride and PhilScore :D
Hi, Phil!
Nice 1 keep doing the good job hope to see u more often now that jay is less active.
Great job Phil!!! thanx for the video/info!!!
phill 🙂
Phil!! Woot Woot!!
Good work Phil!, great information!
Great vid Phil. Keep up the great work guys!
Id love to see how the newer Gen GPU's work with VR
most Reviews/benchmarks only show desktop games and productivity
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I dont think its coming so soon. There arent a lot of people who use VR compared to just using their PC. If they actually do that to get an average result will take time. Would really love to see a specific reviewer to just focus on VR.
Does framegen work on VR? That would actually be really useful since anything under like 90Hz makes you feel kinda sick in VR.
Yeah Phil does a good job explaining. I like this AFMF video more than Digital Foundry one.
digital foundry are nvidia shills and it only gets worse with time. just notice, they will NOT talk badly about nvidia, unless there's nothing else bad to talk about in that particular "slide"
DF are more objective about things. They measure and test. Phil just says how it felt when he tried it
Awesome, thanks for the heads up Phil!
As someone who switched teams this generation I'm glad to be kept in the loop with new tech I can play with. I'll check it out for myself now.
Phill you rocked it. I like that you guys are now not just Jay, but all of you interacting with us. MORE!
I just bought Lossless Scaling on Steam for 6 bux and its friggen awesome. Their upscaling is better than FSR and it has frame gen for any game as well. It took me a min to figure out how to set up but works great on a lot of game on my ROG Ally. I went from 45ish FPS in Undisputed (boxing game) to 120fps with upscaling and frame gen using Lossless Scaling. This framegen doesnt disable in fast movement like AMFM and is much better imo
Yeah, honestly Lossless Scaling's Frame Generation s significantly better than AFMF just for its ability to remain on even during rapid movement.
YOOOOOO :D
Phil killed it with this vid :D
Love the Doug shoutout haha. Doug’s channel is awesome.
Thank you Phil 🫶🏻
Great to see you Phil!
I was looking forward to a Jay video, I hope Phil doesn't come up short. ;)
I see what you did there
Is he standing up?
Used FMF in Cyberpunk for the first time. Everything one High and able to run above 144 fps with no dips on 1440p. Appreciate that AMD added this to last gen cards to increase some performance.
It's not real performance
@@chriswright8074 It's not really important.
@@chriswright8074neither is dlss3. It looks smoother that's all it's purpose is
good to see more of the team!
Thank you PhilzTwoCents. Looking forward to more videos.
Nice work, Phil. My only suggestion would be to improve eye contact with the camera. Reduced eye contact is interpreted as nervous and/or less authoritative. And since you are clearly a subject matter expert, you want to communicate your mastery of the material. But great video!
Nailed it Phil. I have a 6600xt s this was so very helpful. Well presented. Cleaning up a couple few ums would be the only suggestion I have. Your pacing of space was wonderful. Keep on keeping on team
Thanks for the video! Ive been trying this out on a few games and noticed some of the points you brought up. Good to know it wasnt just me
Cool overview. 👍🏼 Thanks
I've been playing with it in Diablo 4 , Cyberpunk and War Thunder. I have a 240Hz 1440p monitor , I'm using really high setting like SSAA X4 ( doubles the 1440p rendering ) in War Thunder so my real fps drops to 95 sometimes but it's usually around 120 so I locked my fps to 119 in rivatuner and enabled AFMF and I'm getting " 238 fps " so it all works with freesynch :D
Input lag 😢
@@R0b3ert I haven't noticed any extra input lag, I still smash in War Thunder and the AMD overlay says I'm getting 14ms because I'm starting from decent fps 😜
ive tried it with the 7800xt and in some games its absolutely frames moving faster (afmf) , ive found it doesnt work so well in first person shooters but in driving games and flight simulator its a swear word !! what a great piece of software to have.
As a DCS player, I’m glad I made the move for the 7900xtx then. Was holding out for the 4080S but my previous was a 6950xt which I liked
Solid Video there Phil, real Solid.
Hey Phil, thanks for the video.
This driver makes my screen flicker in black with a 6700XT.
AMD in a nutshell...
@@karlos1060 Windows with AMD in a nutshell.
na mines working fine
try ddu, and perform a clean install ( what i did)
Always use DDU in safe mode. Been using only AMD since 2018, it's been no different to Nvidia.
Yaaaay, got my Phil fix !
This is such a good video - honestly I'm stoked that you're including more of the team in the hosting rotation. I think this would be kind of an awesome long term move even when you're feeling better :D
Thanks for the info Phil, can’t wait to try this.
if JayzTwoCents, then i think it should be PhilsOneCent 👍
who's Phil? i haven't watched this channel in a while
He took over the channel
Jay is sick so he’s going to be off camera for awhile.
He is jay’s long lost son
Jay has some health issues and may be knackered after the long hours the 'not so' super week of Nvidia release reviews last week
Jay's evil twin
HI phill. hope jay doing good. you sould do more screen time bro. greatings to the team out there.
Love ya Phil! Keep it up!
PhilzTwoCents spinoff channel confirmed.
not interested in gimmicks such as frame gen and other dogshi down-scaling tech like DLSS. Bring back RAW performance on NATIVE resolution for DECENT prices.
and post processing garbage.
Go buy a console if you hate the advancement of technology so much.
what advancement? @@maewemeetagain
Woah. First time I see Phil host a video on his own. Really well done. He feels so relaxed and chill in his role, as he's done nothing else his entire life. Bravo sir. 👏
Nice that Jay can get the rest he deserves and needs as well. Win Win.
Good job, Phil. Great info! My ears perked up when I heard “Z1”, not because I know what that is in today’s context, but because there was a company back in the late 1970s that made intel-equivalent cpus using “Z” as header of the sku (Z80 for 8080, etc.) I interviewed there while being a temp at Intel. 🙂
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I thought I would miss Jay more, but so far every video with the guys is amazing! Good job, boys, Jay can recover faster and be calmer knowing that the channel is in great hands!
Love you jay. Great video from the team!
Good job. I can tell you are feeling more comfortable on camera. Keep it up!
Great video as always!
Good vid and explanation Phil!
Well done bro! Nice vid. Super way to explain it if not to sure what the F is going on.
Always good to see Phil from time to time!
"PhilzTwoCents" hahaha LOVE it! Great job Phil!
Great job Phil. Keep it up! Glad to see you.
Great video Phil!
Phil has a great presentation style for this kind of material!
Great Job Phil!!!
I hope you get well soon Jay. Sending you prayers.
Great work Phil!!!! 👊👊👊
love this content. philstwocents is always nice to listen to when he talks about these features.
Great video! Can't wait for the Linux AFNF driver update now ^^
Very good video. Phil is cool.
His voice did sound like his heart was going at about 200 bpm :P
I mean i imagine its a lot of pressure with Jay being ill.
I like this dude. Good for J to give him some air time. He loves what he does and the channel and brings his own personality to the screen. Keep up the good work.
Great breakdown. This is pretty amazing stuff, especially supporting older cards but a variable input delay? Just lower your resolution or get something better until you get the frames you want. Consistency is so everything!
Great job Phil! Pro tip: notice your eyes moving left and right when the camera is on you. Connecting with the audience with your eyes helps keep them captivated. Don't be afraid to lock eyes with the camera. I know it can be uncomfortable but it brings us into the conversation with you. We love you guys and keep up the great work!
Excellent Vid Phil!
Nicely done, Phil! Jay, get well soon!
Thank you Phil for an excellent video - get well soon JAY!!!
...that was a really good impression of Phil doing a pretty good impression of Doug, Jay
Great PhilsTwoCents video! And you do a great Doug DeMuro impression
Get well soon Jay!
yo Phil! good show bro!~
Hell yeah, a PhilsTwoCents vid!