I was very happy that Tatsuya Suou is there. A well-forgotten character within the Persona Fandom, but with extraordinary writing, for me the best in Persona.
Cada vez que visito tu canal, me sorprendo por la cantidad de amplitud de conocimiento y las muchas obras que conoces... Gracias por seguir trayendo tu contenido ❤
Si no es molestia, como consideras en cuestión de narrativa a Wharhammer 40k? Lo menciono pues algunos de sus personajes ( como Konrad o el Emperador) son puestos normalmente en tops de este estilo, y aún que yo mismo he leído algunas novelas principales, no encuentro motivos por los que estén en esos tops, así que ojalá usted me diera su opinión sea para alabarlos o criticarlos por su escritura.
4:01 Eu fiquei estranhamente muito feliz ao saber que você gosta de As Crônicas de Nárnia e considera o Aslan um personagem bem escrito, não é um personagem realmente muito comentado nesse tipo de coisa. Enfim, vejo Louis (Beastars), D (Vampire Hunter D), Yorick (League of Legends), Vecna (D&D), Nakoshi (Homunculus) e mais alguns outros entrando em uma lista similar, de certa forma.
Increíble top, especialmente por incluir a Umineko en el top, una obra maestra. Además, si no es mucha molestia, ¿podría saber cuales son las razones por las cuales personajes como Thorfinn, Kaneki, Araragi, Li-chan, Subaru, Klein, Gintoki, Fang Yuan y Phosphophyllite no estarían incluídos en la lista? No soy un experto, así que; ¿Están mal escritos, tienen demasiados errores en la ejecución de temas, simplemente no consideras que están mejor escritos que los del top o directamente no has leído/visto sus obras? 🤔
¿Meursault de El extranjero? ¿Johannes de Diario de un seductor? ¿Antoine Roquentin de La náusea? ¿Abraham y Job de El Tanaj? Btw me agrada el reconocimiento a un personaje de El hombre sin cualidades
"¿Es ésta la región, éste el suelo, éste el clima», dijo entonces el arcángel perdido, «éste el asiento que debemos cambiar por el cielo, esta triste penumbra por aquella luz celestial? Sea así, ya que aquel que ahora es soberano puede disponer y ordenar lo que sea correcto: lo más alejado de él es lo mejor, a quien la razón ha igualado, la fuerza ha hecho supremo sobre sus iguales. Adiós campos felices donde la alegría habita para siempre: salve horrores, salve mundo infernal, y tú, el infierno más profundo, recibe a tu nuevo poseedor: uno que trae Una mente que no se puede cambiar por el lugar o el tiempo. La mente es su propio lugar, y en sí misma Puede hacer un cielo del infierno, un infierno del cielo. ¿Qué importa dónde, si sigo siendo el mismo, Y lo que debería ser, todo menos que aquel a quien el baño de truenos hizo mayor? Aquí al menos seremos libres; el Todopoderoso no ha construido Aquí por su envidia, no nos echará de aquí: Aquí podemos reinar seguros, y en mi elección Reinar vale la ambición aunque sea en el infierno: Es mejor reinar en el infierno que servir en el cielo". - Lucifer - Paradise Lost. Otros personajes con buena escritura son: Adam de Tragedy Of Man, Sócrates del Critón, El extraño caso del doctor Jekyll y el señor Hyde, El príncipe de Maquiavelo, El extraño de Stranger in the lifeboat, Antígona y Creonte del mito de Antígona, La filosofía y Boecio de la consolación a la filosofía, Guillermo de Baskerville y Jorge de Burgos del nombre de la rosa y Sísifo del mito de Sísifo.
Thank you for not putting trɑsh characters like Eren, Kaneki, Subaru, Ayanokoji, Rudeus, Luffy, Fang Yuan, any Nasuverse character, any SubaHibi character, Phosphophyllite, Harry DuBois, et cetera, on the list. Other well-written characters: - Elizabeth Bennet (Pride & Prejudice) - Dorothea Brooke (Middlemarch) - Andrei Bolkonsky (War and Peace) - Pierre Bezukhov (War and Peace) - Edmond Dantès (The Count of Monte Cristo) - Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks) - Frasier Crane (Frasier)
Nobody understood Disco Elysium, not me, not the creator of this video, not even the creators of the game. The one who understood was Therightous with his cancerous RUclips short videos who has never touched a political book in his life.
Já leu The Caibalion? Se sim, o que você acha da escrita em geral e de Hermes Trismegisto? A versão de Baphomet (Do s4tanismo filosófico de LaVey) e do conceito de Eliphas Levi também são interessantes.
@@zairemu_livesNo hate of course, the video is merely subjective. However, I can't really put Siddhartha in this topic since it's a historical figure with records of actually having existed (explained in another comment).
@@zairemu_livesIndeed, however, Milton's Lucifer is an interpretation of the christian theology-character, so it's possible to perceive it as a fictional entity. Although Lucifer's presence in the Bible is something completely questionable, but that would be another topic.
Lindo video, la anticipacion al inesperado primer lugar fue emocionante, pero es de una obra sin terminar? Me pregunto si conoces a personajes de estos titulos, algunos por mi parte aun no llego a experimentar: Mad Men, Mona Bergeron (Varda's Vagabond), The Count of Monte Cristo, The Book of the New Sun, The First Law, Malazan Book of the Fallen, Earthsea, Dekalog, Monogatari, Type-Moon. Alguna serie o franquicia de la que esperas cosas buenas?
Tengo una pregunta sobre la saga de Mega Man: ¿Cuáles serían los top tiers en cada una de las 3 primeras era de Mega Man (Saga clásica, saga de X y saga de Zero)?
[Poder] *Clásica:* 1. Duo/Evil Energy 2. Rock (Mega Man 11) 3. Sunstar/Dr. Wily (Peak) *X:* 1. Great Redips 2. Ninetails 3. X/Zero *Zero:* 1. Zero 2. Dr. Weil (Ragnarok) 3. Omega (Dark Elf) [Escritura] *Clásica:* 1. Rock 2. Dr. Wily 3. Proto Man *X:* 1. Zero 2. X 3. Gate *Zero:* 1. Zero 2. X 3. Dr. Weil
@@PhoenixCrush Interesante, tengo algunas consultas sobre el top de poder: 1) ¿Canonicamente Ninetails podría ser considerando así de fuerte? Se me hace tan raro que un reploid tan poderoso se sintiera salido de la nada. 2) ¿No debería Omega ser el más poderoso? Al final Zero no pudo rematarlo solo, o porque Weil debería ser más fuerte que Omega?
He terminado descubriendo varias obras que no tenía conocimiento, eso demuestra que eres bastante culto en estos medios. PD: ¿que otras visual novels has llegado a consumir?
Me parece en general una excelente lista, pero me surgió la duda. ¿Bajo qué criterio calificas a personajes con múltiples interpretaciones, o más de un autor? Lo digo mayormente por personajes de comics como Spider-Man, que debido al infame volumen 6 dudo que pueda siquiera entrar en la lista. También Batman y el Joker que aunque tengan muy buenas interpretaciones puntuales, su calidad general es muy inconsistente.
I'm surprised not to see Sun Wukong on the list, in some original traditions like in the Bodhisattvas, he is much better and much better written than Lucifer from Paradise Lost by a lot, for example. Strange to see Rama from Ramayana and Arjuna from Bhagavd Gita on the list, but not to see Brahman (Upanishads), Krishna (Mahabharat) and Nrsimhadeva (The Past Times of Nrsimhadeva).
@@PhoenixCrush Ok; In its most globally popular literary version, Journey to The West, this timeless classic, also known as "Monkey," follows the adventures of the mischievous yet powerful Monkey King, Sun Wukong, as he accompanies the Buddhist monk Xuanzang on a perilous journey to retrieve sacred scriptures from India. At its core, the novel explores the themes of redemption, self-discovery, and the transformative power of the journey. The characters undergo profound inner changes as they navigate through a series of trials and tribulations. Sun Wukong, initially portrayed as a rebellious and arrogant figure, evolves into a more disciplined and compassionate being through his encounters and lessons learned during the expedition.The narrative unfolds with rich symbolism and allegory. Each character embodies distinct qualities and represents facets of human nature. Sun Wukong symbolizes the untamed spirit and the quest for freedom, while Xuanzang embodies wisdom, compassion, and the pursuit of enlightenment. The interactions among these characters reflect the complexities of human existence, portraying the internal struggle between one's desires and the path toward spiritual awakening.The novel is also a testament to the power of camaraderie and teamwork. Despite their differences and occasional conflicts, the characters rely on each other's strengths to overcome formidable challenges. The narrative skillfully weaves together mythical encounters, battles with formidable foes, and moments of introspection. Each chapter presents a new challenge for the travelers, whether it's facing off against supernatural beings or navigating treacherous terrains.Moreover, Wu Cheng'en's rich prose vividly paints the landscapes and settings, immersing readers in the mystical world of ancient China. The detailed descriptions of celestial realms, magical creatures, and the diverse cultures encountered on the journey add depth and color to the narrative, making the fantastical elements feel grounded in the cultural context of the time.The thematic depth of the text is another highlight. Themes of friendship, loyalty, perseverance, and the pursuit of enlightenment are interwoven throughout the story. The trials faced by the characters serve as allegories for the challenges one must overcome on the path to self-discovery and spiritual enlightenment. Additionally, the text presents a commentary on human nature, exploring the complexities of morality and the consequences of actions. Through the characters' interactions and choices, the author invites readers to contemplate themes of redemption, forgiveness, and the eternal struggle between good and evil.
@@PhoenixCrush The second volume of "The Journey to the West" stands as a testament to Wu Cheng'en's storytelling prowess and his ability to create a timeless epic that resonates with audiences across generations. It not only entertains with its adventurous plot but also offers profound insights into the human condition, continues the epic odyssey of Xuanzang and his companions, offering a rich tapestry of adventure, character development, cultural exploration, and philosophical depth. Wu Cheng'en's masterful storytelling ensures that this classic tale remains a captivating and thought-provoking literary work that endures through time. The narrative embarks on a profound exploration of human nature, interwoven with elements of fantasy and adventure. This classic Chinese novel, while ostensibly a tale of pilgrimage, transcends its surface storyline, delving into themes of enlightenment, morality, and the complexities of personal transformation.Central to the narrative is the protagonist, Sun Wukong, whose evolution symbolizes the human quest for self-realization. His character undergoes a metamorphosis from a mischievous and brash figure to one characterized by wisdom and humility. This transformation is emblematic of the individual journey towards enlightenment and self-awareness, echoing philosophical concepts of personal growth and spiritual development.The novel's depiction of the pilgrimage to India is not merely a physical journey but a metaphorical odyssey representing the inner quest for truth and enlightenment. Each episode along the pilgrimage path serves as a lesson, testing the characters' virtues and challenging their beliefs. The encounters with various demons and obstacles mirror the internal struggles individuals face on their path to self-discovery. Through these challenges, the characters grow, evolving morally and spiritually.Moreover, the novel subtly critiques societal norms and values, inviting readers to reflect on the complexities of human nature. The diverse cast of characters embodies a spectrum of traits, from righteousness to deceit, from altruism to selfishness This diversity highlights the multifaceted nature of humanity, prompting contemplation on the dichotomy between good and evil, and the ever-present potential for redemption. Wu Cheng'en's narrative style enhances the allegorical nature of the story. Rich descriptions and vivid imagery transport readers into a fantastical realm where reality and mythology intertwine seamlessly. The author's use of symbolism, such as Sun Wukong's magical staff and the characters' arduous journey, adds depth to the narrative, inviting readers to interpret underlying meanings and draw parallels to their own lives.Furthermore, the novel's portrayal of relationships, particularly between the main characters, adds emotional depth to the story. The camaraderie among Sun Wukong, Tang Sanzang, Zhu Bajie, and Sha Wujing exemplifies the importance of loyalty, mutual respect, and support in overcoming adversities, their interactions underscore the significance of companionship on life's journey, emphasizing the need for unity and cooperation in facing challenges. Additionally, "The Journey to the West" reflects the cultural and religious landscape of its time. It weaves elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism into its narrative fabric, offering insights into Chinese philosophical traditions. Through the characters' encounters with deities and spiritual beings, the novel explores the complexities of faith and the pursuit of higher truths, inviting contemplation on the nature of divinity and human existence.In conclusion, Wu Cheng'en's "The Journey to the West, Volume 3" transcends all its superficial adventure narrative, delving into profound themes of personal growth, morality, and the human condition.
@@PhoenixCrush This diversity highlights the multifaceted nature of humanity, prompting contemplation on the dichotomy between good and evil, and the ever-present potential for redemption. Wu Cheng'en's narrative style enhances the allegorical nature of the story. Rich descriptions and vivid imagery transport readers into a fantastical realm where reality and mythology intertwine seamlessly. The author's use of symbolism, such as Sun Wukong's magical staff and the characters' arduous journey, adds depth to the narrative, inviting readers to interpret underlying meanings and draw parallels to their own lives.Furthermore, the novel's portrayal of relationships, particularly between the main characters, adds emotional depth to the story. The camaraderie among Sun Wukong, Tang Sanzang, Zhu Bajie, and Sha Wujing exemplifies the importance of loyalty, mutual respect, and support in overcoming adversities, their interactions underscore the significance of companionship on life's journey, emphasizing the need for unity and cooperation in facing challenges. Additionally, "The Journey to the West" reflects the cultural and religious landscape of its time. It weaves elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism into its narrative fabric, offering insights into Chinese philosophical traditions. Through the characters' encounters with deities and spiritual beings, the novel explores the complexities of faith and the pursuit of higher truths, inviting contemplation on the nature of divinity and human existence.In conclusion, Wu Cheng'en's "The Journey to the West, Volume 3" transcends all its superficial adventure narrative, delving into profound themes of personal growth, morality, and the human condition. Through its allegorical storytelling, rich symbolism, and nuanced character development, the novel invites readers on an introspective journey, prompting reflection on the intricacies of life's pilgrimage and the pursuit of enlightenment. The narrative continues to enthrall readers with its blend of mythology, adventure, and moral teachings. One of the prominent themes in Volume 4 is the development of the characters. Xuanzang, the devout monk, displays unwavering determination and compassion despite facing numerous obstacles. His journey is not merely physical but also spiritual, as he strives to maintain his virtuous principles in the face of temptations and dangers. This volume delves deeper into his internal struggles, emphasizing the importance of inner strength and righteousness. The character of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, further evolves in this installment. Known for his mischief and incredible powers, Sun Wukong grapples with his own identity and the concept of destiny. His arrogance and impulsive nature often lead to conflicts within the group, yet his loyalty and courage remain unwavering. Through his journey, readers witness his growth, as he learns humility and the consequences of his actions.Another significant aspect of Volume 4 is the rich tapestry of mythology and folklore woven into the narrative. Wu Cheng'en masterfully incorporates various supernatural beings, mystical creatures, and divine interventions. These elements add depth to the story, creating a vivid and enchanting world that captivates readers and showcases the richness of Chinese mythology.Moreover, the novel explores themes of loyalty, friendship, and the importance of teamwork. Xuanzang's companions, including Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing, demonstrate their loyalty and dedication to their quest despite their flaws and past mistakes. Their camaraderie and mutual support highlight the significance of unity in overcoming challenges. Throughout the journey, the group encounters numerous trials and adversaries, each presenting moral dilemmas and tests of character. These challenges serve as allegories for the human condition, prompting reflection on virtues such as perseverance, compassion, and selflessness. Furthermore, Volume 4 continues to blend action-packed sequences with moments of introspection and philosophical discourse. The narrative seamlessly transitions between thrilling adventures, such as battles with demons and supernatural beings, and contemplative discussions on morality and spirituality, this juxtaposition adds depth to the storytelling, catering to both the readers' desire for excitement and their thirst for deeper meaning. Wu Cheng'en's writing style in Volume 4 remains engaging and accessible, employing vivid descriptions and vivid imagery that transport readers into the fantastical world of the journey. The language is rich yet fluid, allowing the narrative to flow smoothly while capturing the essence of Chinese literary traditions. “The Journey to the West, Volume 4" continues the epic saga with its compelling characters, intricate mythological elements, and thematic depth. It serves as a testament to the enduring appeal of the classic tale, offering readers a blend of adventure, moral lessons, and cultural insights that resonate across time and borders. His story represents the human being. He is a primate who wants to become divine, which is the goal of religion. He develops his skills by showing that man must always develop and overcome any obstacles in his life. Then he faces the gods of Buddhism and Taoism, showing that man must master these concepts within himself. Finally he goes to the underworld showing that man must face everything that is worst in him. Once he overcomes the shadows he can go to paradise, but he could not stay there because he was not yet perfect. He gains power over life and death when he picks up the book, representing that man must become a consciousness capable of transcending his own perspective of death. His story is the Chinese version better and better crafted of the 12 labors of Hercules and represents man's struggle in search of his divine version, the extreme juxtaposition of Earlang Shen, who sought immediate revenge and fury towards Wukong for his decisions to heaven, with the hesitation of the Monkey King, offers contrasting approaches to dealing with loss and seeking justice. Employing multiple devices to increase depth, his masterful use of soliloquies allows insight into the character's innermost thoughts and emotions on his journey, inviting the audience into his psyche. The story's complex language, filled with wordplay, metaphor, and paradox, contributes to its enduring appeal and intellectual richness. The setting of the Bodhishttavas and gripping epic fantasy literature serves as a backdrop to the poignant exploration of complexities of human nature. Its enduring relevance lies in its exploration of timeless themes that resonate across eras due to its profound exploration of human nature, morality, the desire to always progress, and complexities of decision making. The nuanced multidimensional characters, intricate plot, and depth ensure its lasting significance, inviting continued analysis and interpretation. The universality of their hidden meanings allows them to transcend time, resonating with audiences across generations, inviting introspection into the depths of the human psyche.
@@PhoenixCrush I only cited the incomplete part in conjunction with the literature and his ancient texts showing more of him, as I could only see some of the incomplete Bohishttvas, but from what I could see, it sounds better than Lucifer which I had already read a few years ago, there are more long texts involving him and the level of his writing, but I'm afraid that RUclips will think I'm sending you Spam, apart from the problem of exceeding the characters which I would have to divide into many, many parts, which would take a lot of time for you and me, who am doing more than one thing at once for now, and I had to divide the text into small ones because RUclips won't let me send it in full. But your reaction made me curious, what do you think of Sun Wukong as a character himself? I would love to know your opinion and if it makes the list.
My current list is 1. Faust 2. Stephen Dedalus 3. Nikolai Stavrogin 4. Leopold Bloom 5. Harry Haller 6. Ivan Karamazov 7. Hamlet 8. Lev Myshkin 9. Zarathustra 10. Rodion Raskolnikov
Like Guin, Gandalf, and Rand'al Thor are on this list, so are Ged (Tales of Earthsea), Conan the Barbarian, Vecna (D&D), Erick of Meliboné, D (Vampire Hunter D), The Emperor of Mankind, and Horus ( Warhammer), Garrosh Hellscream, Lich King, Thrall and Llilidan Stormrage (World of Warcraft), and many others and countless various fantasy characters should also be in it, actually. And about just Peter, Silver Surfer, Charles and Erick/Magneto, The Punisher, Daredevil, Logan/Wolverine and Doctor Doom should also be on the list, but ok, that's your opinion.
With the exception of Conan and Elric, the others mentioned are not even close to this list. Some of the other characters from Marvel that you mentioned are next to Peter if I had to make a list of the best written characters from said industry, and could enter in a extended top, like 300 or 200; 10- The Sentry (Robert Reynolds) 9- Molecule Man (Owen Reece) 8- Captain America (Steve Rogers) 7- Thor Odinson 6- Silver Surfer (Norrin Radd) 5- Daredevil (Matt Murdock) 4- The Punisher (Frank Castle) 3- Doctor Doom (Victor von Doom) 2- Magneto (Max Eisenhardt) 1- Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
@@PhoenixCrush Ah, I understand your point better now, but why don't at least Vecna, Lilidan or Garrosh make the list? Lilidan has one of the best stories of redemption and self-quest I've ever seen, and Garrosh has such a deep and interesting ideology, motivation, and complex statements that to this day the WOW community has a giant watershed in intense debate between people. who agree and disagree with what he thought.
It makes no sense to consider a figure with historical records of having existed for this topic, it is much more a religious symbol. The Pali that you are talking about is the _vahāṁ hai_ that constitutes the _ṭipiṭakā,_ which is for a Buddhist what the Bible is for Christians, because the Vinaya in it regulates the rules and norms for monastic life, covering discipline and conduct of monks; the Suttas contain the speeches and teachings attributed to the Buddha and his disciples, including the sutras, and there is still the Abhidhamma which literally offers a blink-philosophical analysis as a doctrine.
@@Rexmonkmode-ol8sn Ramayana is a literature work, unlike any Buddhist Sutra, which means it's possible to consider it regarding a fictional context, in the same way it's possible to regard Milton's Lucifer (Paradise Lost) for this topic. About Arjuna, the Mahabharata and by extension the Bhagavad Gita incorporate several oral and literary traditions, and Arjuna is widely credited as a historical figure, yes, but these epics are also normally reconcilable in literature even for Indians, many things have their mythological and poetic parts. Arjuna serves to represent the internal struggle between duty and morality and the dharmic evolution guided by Krishna, so it is believed that his existence is used to communicate the philosophies given in a scenario that was indeed real, but does not mean that it is completely sacred.
Zarathustra was a real person whose life was used as the basis for Nietzsche's thoughts and philosophy. In Ecce Homo, Nietzsche explains that he chose Zarathustra because he saw him as the first one to establish the moral system which eventually evolves into Judeo-Christian morals, and which Nietzsche sets out to demolish in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra". So I don't even think it makes sense to consider him for this topic.
@@PhoenixCrush Zarathustra was a real person, the character Zarathustra in the book TSZ is a separate character that just bears a loose connection to the real person. The character has been in a couple of these top 100 character videos due to how well written it is.
@@1Vain1 The "character" Zarathustra is nothing more than a satire used to convey Nietzsche's philosophy, we are not talking about an actual fictitious entity, only a reinterpretation. Nietzsche's proposal is to create the conditions for overcoming antagonistic principles, because his Zarathustra, as well as his philosophy, is understood beyond good and evil. This is the equivalent of someone writing a book about Adolf Hitler and expressing his philosophical thoughts on him. Not because of that we should say "Wow, Hitler is such a well-written villain, he's in my top 100".
@@PhoenixCrushA person having a character written of their self doing things inside a story that the real person is not doing makes it by definition fiction. As soon as the individual is not the self but a reinterpretation of it, it becomes an imaginary idea and therefore is a seperate entity. The I which I am and the I that I could write myself being in a book will be two different people in two different worlds, one of which is real and one is fictitious. Besides, you did not say why you think the quality of this new entity Zarathustras is not worthy of being in the top 100 list, I am curious to hear it.
@@1Vain1 Except that there is no clear depiction of the Zarathustra "character" doing something that the "real" one didn't. The book conveys Nietzsche's philosophy through the journey of the Persian prophet, using concepts like the Letztermensch, the Übermensch, the Three Metamorphoses and the Eternal Return to describe it, that's all. If you really want to stretch it to consider it for this topic, that's on you. I never said that the quality of the book's writing is not "worthy of being in the top 100", so I don't even know what you're talking about, in fact, one of the characters in this video (no. #43) is entirely based on Nietzsche's Zarathustra. Nietzsche is one of my favorite philosophers and I value his ideas, but this is a matter of separating an allegory to an actual fictional being.
I was very happy that Tatsuya Suou is there. A well-forgotten character within the Persona Fandom, but with extraordinary writing, for me the best in Persona.
Umineko when they cry is peak.
Also finally someone who gives Sherlock Holmes the credit he deserves.
Cada vez que visito tu canal, me sorprendo por la cantidad de amplitud de conocimiento y las muchas obras que conoces...
Gracias por seguir trayendo tu contenido ❤
Con este video saco una conclusión:
Usted es de los usuarios mas cultos que vi en mi vida.
6:51 El matareyes? Creo que tengo que leer Canción de Hielo y Fuego. Porque la serie no le hizo justicia, para que este tan alto en el top.
Nice video y varios pesonajes de los cuales desconozco pero que se ven por lo menos interesante
Si no es molestia, como consideras en cuestión de narrativa a Wharhammer 40k? Lo menciono pues algunos de sus personajes ( como Konrad o el Emperador) son puestos normalmente en tops de este estilo, y aún que yo mismo he leído algunas novelas principales, no encuentro motivos por los que estén en esos tops, así que ojalá usted me diera su opinión sea para alabarlos o criticarlos por su escritura.
Usted me hizo darme cuenta de la cantidad de obras que no he leído, excelente lista.
4:01
Eu fiquei estranhamente muito feliz ao saber que você gosta de As Crônicas de Nárnia e considera o Aslan um personagem bem escrito, não é um personagem realmente muito comentado nesse tipo de coisa.
Enfim, vejo Louis (Beastars), D (Vampire Hunter D), Yorick (League of Legends), Vecna (D&D), Nakoshi (Homunculus) e mais alguns outros entrando em uma lista similar, de certa forma.
Increíble top, especialmente por incluir a Umineko en el top, una obra maestra.
Además, si no es mucha molestia, ¿podría saber cuales son las razones por las cuales personajes como Thorfinn, Kaneki, Araragi, Li-chan, Subaru, Klein, Gintoki, Fang Yuan y Phosphophyllite no estarían incluídos en la lista? No soy un experto, así que; ¿Están mal escritos, tienen demasiados errores en la ejecución de temas, simplemente no consideras que están mejor escritos que los del top o directamente no has leído/visto sus obras? 🤔
Dam you really did include arjuna too
¿Meursault de El extranjero?
¿Johannes de Diario de un seductor?
¿Antoine Roquentin de La náusea?
¿Abraham y Job de El Tanaj?
Btw me agrada el reconocimiento a un personaje de El hombre sin cualidades
9:04 El mejor linterna verde.
Buena lista, me gustaria leer algunos libro mencionados como Ulysess
"¿Es ésta la región, éste el suelo, éste el clima»,
dijo entonces el arcángel perdido, «éste el asiento
que debemos cambiar por el cielo, esta triste penumbra
por aquella luz celestial? Sea así, ya que aquel
que ahora es soberano puede disponer y ordenar
lo que sea correcto: lo más alejado de él es lo mejor,
a quien la razón ha igualado, la fuerza ha hecho supremo
sobre sus iguales. Adiós campos felices
donde la alegría habita para siempre: salve horrores, salve
mundo infernal, y tú, el infierno más profundo,
recibe a tu nuevo poseedor: uno que trae
Una mente que no se puede cambiar por el lugar o el tiempo.
La mente es su propio lugar, y en sí misma
Puede hacer un cielo del infierno, un infierno del cielo.
¿Qué importa dónde, si sigo siendo el mismo,
Y lo que debería ser, todo menos que aquel
a quien el baño de truenos hizo mayor? Aquí al menos
seremos libres; el Todopoderoso no ha construido
Aquí por su envidia, no nos echará de aquí:
Aquí podemos reinar seguros, y en mi elección
Reinar vale la ambición aunque sea en el infierno:
Es mejor reinar en el infierno que servir en el cielo".
- Lucifer - Paradise Lost.
Otros personajes con buena escritura son: Adam de Tragedy Of Man, Sócrates del Critón, El extraño caso del doctor Jekyll y el señor Hyde, El príncipe de Maquiavelo, El extraño de Stranger in the lifeboat, Antígona y Creonte del mito de Antígona, La filosofía y Boecio de la consolación a la filosofía, Guillermo de Baskerville y Jorge de Burgos del nombre de la rosa y Sísifo del mito de Sísifo.
thats a great video. Nice job buddy.
Thank you for not putting trɑsh characters like Eren, Kaneki, Subaru, Ayanokoji, Rudeus, Luffy, Fang Yuan, any Nasuverse character, any SubaHibi character, Phosphophyllite, Harry DuBois, et cetera, on the list.
Other well-written characters:
- Elizabeth Bennet (Pride & Prejudice)
- Dorothea Brooke (Middlemarch)
- Andrei Bolkonsky (War and Peace)
- Pierre Bezukhov (War and Peace)
- Edmond Dantès (The Count of Monte Cristo)
- Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks)
- Frasier Crane (Frasier)
what you think about kiruma souichi (usogui)?
Kaneki is great, and slams multiple characters on this list
Nailed it.
Yuh bro didn’t understand DE
Nobody understood Disco Elysium, not me, not the creator of this video, not even the creators of the game. The one who understood was Therightous with his cancerous RUclips short videos who has never touched a political book in his life.
Já leu The Caibalion? Se sim, o que você acha da escrita em geral e de Hermes Trismegisto?
A versão de Baphomet (Do s4tanismo filosófico de LaVey) e do conceito de Eliphas Levi também são interessantes.
bro really forgot Holden Caulfield, Harry Haller, Harry Dubois, Bojack Horseman, Elliot Alderson, Leonard Church, Kafka Tamura, Fang Yuan, Klein Moretti, Tony Soprano, Narcissus, Goldmund, Marcel Proust, Siddharta, Paul Atreides, Ullyses, Joshua Graham, Sensei, Bazarov
Didn't forgot; they don't enter on the list.
@@PhoenixCrush it's okay man, no hate tho since I agree most of the list
@@zairemu_livesNo hate of course, the video is merely subjective. However, I can't really put Siddhartha in this topic since it's a historical figure with records of actually having existed (explained in another comment).
@@PhoenixCrush oh yea I saw that, didn't even know Siddharta is historical. But what about Lucifer, isn't he based on the Bible?
@@zairemu_livesIndeed, however, Milton's Lucifer is an interpretation of the christian theology-character, so it's possible to perceive it as a fictional entity. Although Lucifer's presence in the Bible is something completely questionable, but that would be another topic.
Lindo video, la anticipacion al inesperado primer lugar fue emocionante, pero es de una obra sin terminar?
Me pregunto si conoces a personajes de estos titulos, algunos por mi parte aun no llego a experimentar:
Mad Men, Mona Bergeron (Varda's Vagabond), The Count of Monte Cristo, The Book of the New Sun, The First Law, Malazan Book of the Fallen, Earthsea, Dekalog, Monogatari, Type-Moon.
Alguna serie o franquicia de la que esperas cosas buenas?
Conozco a algunos, sí.
Nice. Ótimo gosto musical junta de imagens encantadoras.
Tengo una pregunta sobre la saga de Mega Man:
¿Cuáles serían los top tiers en cada una de las 3 primeras era de Mega Man (Saga clásica, saga de X y saga de Zero)?
¿"Top Tiers" en términos de poder o escritura (el tema de este vídeo)?
@@PhoenixCrush Ambos.
[Poder]
*Clásica:*
1. Duo/Evil Energy
2. Rock (Mega Man 11)
3. Sunstar/Dr. Wily (Peak)
*X:*
1. Great Redips
2. Ninetails
3. X/Zero
*Zero:*
1. Zero
2. Dr. Weil (Ragnarok)
3. Omega (Dark Elf)
[Escritura]
*Clásica:*
1. Rock
2. Dr. Wily
3. Proto Man
*X:*
1. Zero
2. X
3. Gate
*Zero:*
1. Zero
2. X
3. Dr. Weil
@@PhoenixCrush Interesante, tengo algunas consultas sobre el top de poder:
1) ¿Canonicamente Ninetails podría ser considerando así de fuerte? Se me hace tan raro que un reploid tan poderoso se sintiera salido de la nada.
2) ¿No debería Omega ser el más poderoso? Al final Zero no pudo rematarlo solo, o porque Weil debería ser más fuerte que Omega?
@@PhoenixCrush Y como extra, que opina usted sobre el asunto de que si Wily era Serges e Isoc? Como yo lo veo, hay demasiadas pruebas a favor.
I think Walter White and Tony Soprano are the best written characters ever
Pense que iba a haber algun personaje de Silent Hill :"(
James Sunderland: #115
Ahh, Romance of the 3 kingdoms enjoyer🗿
Man forgot judge holden 😭
Meh.
Solo 2 cosas si no te molesta, donde pondrias a rika furude y piensas que el cierre perfecto de lucifer es el volando en el vacio o da para mas?
Frederica = Rika (Saikoroshi-hen)
Sí
No tiene nada que ver con el vídeo, ¿pero podrías hacer un ranking de poder entre los miembros del LDO (sin contar a Ren y Mercurius)?
1- Reinhard Heydrich
2- Isaak/Rea Himuro (Gladsheim + Heilige Arche - Goldene Eihwaz Swastika)
3- Valeria Trifa (Divine Vessel)
4/5/6- Machina/Eleonore/Schreiber
7- Tubal Cain (Kai Sakurai)
8- Wilhelm Ehrenburg
9- Beatrice Kircheisen
10- Kei Sakurai
11- Rusalka Schwägerin
12- Tubal Cain (Rei Sakurai)
13- Tubal Cain (Musashi Sakurai)
14- Lisa Brenner (Pallida Mors + Tubal Cain)
15- Rot Spinne
Where would you left Rosa Ushiromiya?
Probably between #200 - #110. Same with Eva, Kyrie and Natsuhi.
Verga,de esa lista solo conozco como a 30
He terminado descubriendo varias obras que no tenía conocimiento, eso demuestra que eres bastante culto en estos medios.
PD: ¿que otras visual novels has llegado a consumir?
Me parece en general una excelente lista, pero me surgió la duda. ¿Bajo qué criterio calificas a personajes con múltiples interpretaciones, o más de un autor? Lo digo mayormente por personajes de comics como Spider-Man, que debido al infame volumen 6 dudo que pueda siquiera entrar en la lista. También Batman y el Joker que aunque tengan muy buenas interpretaciones puntuales, su calidad general es muy inconsistente.
Picos autorales en runs.
>LoGH
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Disculpe, hola. Vine a comentar una pregunta: ¿Qué opinas de Natsuki Subaru, protagonista de la novela "Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu"?
I'm surprised not to see Sun Wukong on the list, in some original traditions like in the Bodhisattvas, he is much better and much better written than Lucifer from Paradise Lost by a lot, for example.
Strange to see Rama from Ramayana and Arjuna from Bhagavd Gita on the list, but not to see Brahman (Upanishads), Krishna (Mahabharat) and Nrsimhadeva (The Past Times of Nrsimhadeva).
Explain why he is better, then.
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Ok;
In its most globally popular literary version, Journey to The West, this timeless classic, also known as "Monkey," follows the adventures of the mischievous yet powerful Monkey King, Sun Wukong, as he accompanies the Buddhist monk Xuanzang on a perilous journey to retrieve sacred scriptures from India. At its core, the novel explores the themes of redemption, self-discovery, and the transformative power of the journey. The characters undergo profound inner changes as they navigate through a series of trials and tribulations.
Sun Wukong, initially portrayed as a rebellious and arrogant figure, evolves into a more disciplined and compassionate being through his encounters and lessons learned during the expedition.The narrative unfolds with rich symbolism and allegory. Each character embodies distinct qualities and represents facets of human nature. Sun Wukong symbolizes the untamed spirit and the quest for freedom, while Xuanzang embodies wisdom, compassion, and the pursuit of enlightenment.
The interactions among these characters reflect the complexities of human existence, portraying the internal struggle between one's desires and the path toward spiritual awakening.The novel is also a testament to the power of camaraderie and teamwork. Despite their differences and occasional conflicts, the characters rely on each other's strengths to overcome formidable challenges.
The narrative skillfully weaves together mythical encounters, battles with formidable foes, and moments of introspection. Each chapter presents a new challenge for the travelers, whether it's facing off against supernatural beings or navigating treacherous terrains.Moreover, Wu Cheng'en's rich prose vividly paints the landscapes and settings, immersing readers in the mystical world of ancient China.
The detailed descriptions of celestial realms, magical creatures, and the diverse cultures encountered on the journey add depth and color to the narrative, making the fantastical elements feel grounded in the cultural context of the time.The thematic depth of the text is another highlight.
Themes of friendship, loyalty, perseverance, and the pursuit of enlightenment are interwoven throughout the story. The trials faced by the characters serve as allegories for the challenges one must overcome on the path to self-discovery and spiritual enlightenment. Additionally, the text presents a commentary on human nature, exploring the complexities of morality and the consequences of actions. Through the characters' interactions and choices, the author invites readers to contemplate themes of redemption, forgiveness, and the eternal struggle between good and evil.
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The second volume of "The Journey to the West" stands as a testament to Wu Cheng'en's storytelling prowess and his ability to create a timeless epic that resonates with audiences across generations. It not only entertains with its adventurous plot but also offers profound insights into the human condition, continues the epic odyssey of Xuanzang and his companions, offering a rich tapestry of adventure, character development, cultural exploration, and philosophical depth. Wu Cheng'en's masterful storytelling ensures that this classic tale remains a captivating and thought-provoking literary work that endures through time.
The narrative embarks on a profound exploration of human nature, interwoven with elements of fantasy and adventure. This classic Chinese novel, while ostensibly a tale of pilgrimage, transcends its surface storyline, delving into themes of enlightenment, morality, and the complexities of personal transformation.Central to the narrative is the protagonist, Sun Wukong, whose evolution symbolizes the human quest for self-realization. His character undergoes a metamorphosis from a mischievous and brash figure to one characterized by wisdom and humility.
This transformation is emblematic of the individual journey towards enlightenment and self-awareness, echoing philosophical concepts of personal growth and spiritual development.The novel's depiction of the pilgrimage to India is not merely a physical journey but a metaphorical odyssey representing the inner quest for truth and enlightenment. Each episode along the pilgrimage path serves as a lesson, testing the characters' virtues and challenging their beliefs.
The encounters with various demons and obstacles mirror the internal struggles individuals face on their path to self-discovery. Through these challenges, the characters grow, evolving morally and spiritually.Moreover, the novel subtly critiques societal norms and values, inviting readers to reflect on the complexities of human nature. The diverse cast of characters embodies a spectrum of traits, from righteousness to deceit, from altruism to selfishness
This diversity highlights the multifaceted nature of humanity, prompting contemplation on the dichotomy between good and evil, and the ever-present potential for redemption. Wu Cheng'en's narrative style enhances the allegorical nature of the story. Rich descriptions and vivid imagery transport readers into a fantastical realm where reality and mythology intertwine seamlessly. The author's use of symbolism, such as Sun Wukong's magical staff and the characters' arduous journey, adds depth to the narrative, inviting readers to interpret underlying meanings and draw parallels to their own lives.Furthermore, the novel's portrayal of relationships, particularly between the main characters, adds emotional depth to the story.
The camaraderie among Sun Wukong, Tang Sanzang, Zhu Bajie, and Sha Wujing exemplifies the importance of loyalty, mutual respect, and support in overcoming adversities, their interactions underscore the significance of companionship on life's journey, emphasizing the need for unity and cooperation in facing challenges. Additionally, "The Journey to the West" reflects the cultural and religious landscape of its time. It weaves elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism into its narrative fabric, offering insights into Chinese philosophical traditions. Through the characters' encounters with deities and spiritual beings, the novel explores the complexities of faith and the pursuit of higher truths, inviting contemplation on the nature of divinity and human existence.In conclusion, Wu Cheng'en's "The Journey to the West, Volume 3" transcends all its superficial adventure narrative, delving into profound themes of personal growth, morality, and the human condition.
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This diversity highlights the multifaceted nature of humanity, prompting contemplation on the dichotomy between good and evil, and the ever-present potential for redemption. Wu Cheng'en's narrative style enhances the allegorical nature of the story. Rich descriptions and vivid imagery transport readers into a fantastical realm where reality and mythology intertwine seamlessly. The author's use of symbolism, such as Sun Wukong's magical staff and the characters' arduous journey, adds depth to the narrative, inviting readers to interpret underlying meanings and draw parallels to their own lives.Furthermore, the novel's portrayal of relationships, particularly between the main characters, adds emotional depth to the story.
The camaraderie among Sun Wukong, Tang Sanzang, Zhu Bajie, and Sha Wujing exemplifies the importance of loyalty, mutual respect, and support in overcoming adversities, their interactions underscore the significance of companionship on life's journey, emphasizing the need for unity and cooperation in facing challenges. Additionally, "The Journey to the West" reflects the cultural and religious landscape of its time. It weaves elements of Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism into its narrative fabric, offering insights into Chinese philosophical traditions. Through the characters' encounters with deities and spiritual beings, the novel explores the complexities of faith and the pursuit of higher truths, inviting contemplation on the nature of divinity and human existence.In conclusion, Wu Cheng'en's "The Journey to the West, Volume 3" transcends all its superficial adventure narrative, delving into profound themes of personal growth, morality, and the human condition.
Through its allegorical storytelling, rich symbolism, and nuanced character development, the novel invites readers on an introspective journey, prompting reflection on the intricacies of life's pilgrimage and the pursuit of enlightenment. The narrative continues to enthrall readers with its blend of mythology, adventure, and moral teachings. One of the prominent themes in Volume 4 is the development of the characters. Xuanzang, the devout monk, displays unwavering determination and compassion despite facing numerous obstacles. His journey is not merely physical but also spiritual, as he strives to maintain his virtuous principles in the face of temptations and dangers. This volume delves deeper into his internal struggles, emphasizing the importance of inner strength and righteousness. The character of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King, further evolves in this installment. Known for his mischief and incredible powers, Sun Wukong grapples with his own identity and the concept of destiny. His arrogance and impulsive nature often lead to conflicts within the group, yet his loyalty and courage remain unwavering.
Through his journey, readers witness his growth, as he learns humility and the consequences of his actions.Another significant aspect of Volume 4 is the rich tapestry of mythology and folklore woven into the narrative. Wu Cheng'en masterfully incorporates various supernatural beings, mystical creatures, and divine interventions. These elements add depth to the story, creating a vivid and enchanting world that captivates readers and showcases the richness of Chinese mythology.Moreover, the novel explores themes of loyalty, friendship, and the importance of teamwork. Xuanzang's companions, including Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing, demonstrate their loyalty and dedication to their quest despite their flaws and past mistakes. Their camaraderie and mutual support highlight the significance of unity in overcoming challenges.
Throughout the journey, the group encounters numerous trials and adversaries, each presenting moral dilemmas and tests of character. These challenges serve as allegories for the human condition, prompting reflection on virtues such as perseverance, compassion, and selflessness. Furthermore, Volume 4 continues to blend action-packed sequences with moments of introspection and philosophical discourse. The narrative seamlessly transitions between thrilling adventures, such as battles with demons and supernatural beings, and contemplative discussions on morality and spirituality, this juxtaposition adds depth to the storytelling, catering to both the readers' desire for excitement and their thirst for deeper meaning. Wu Cheng'en's writing style in Volume 4 remains engaging and accessible, employing vivid descriptions and vivid imagery that transport readers into the fantastical world of the journey. The language is rich yet fluid, allowing the narrative to flow smoothly while capturing the essence of Chinese literary traditions.
“The Journey to the West, Volume 4" continues the epic saga with its compelling characters, intricate mythological elements, and thematic depth. It serves as a testament to the enduring appeal of the classic tale, offering readers a blend of adventure, moral lessons, and cultural insights that resonate across time and borders. His story represents the human being. He is a primate who wants to become divine, which is the goal of religion. He develops his skills by showing that man must always develop and overcome any obstacles in his life. Then he faces the gods of Buddhism and Taoism, showing that man must master these concepts within himself.
Finally he goes to the underworld showing that man must face everything that is worst in him. Once he overcomes the shadows he can go to paradise, but he could not stay there because he was not yet perfect. He gains power over life and death when he picks up the book, representing that man must become a consciousness capable of transcending his own perspective of death. His story is the Chinese version better and better crafted of the 12 labors of Hercules and represents man's struggle in search of his divine version, the extreme juxtaposition of Earlang Shen, who sought immediate revenge and fury towards Wukong for his decisions to heaven, with the hesitation of the Monkey King, offers contrasting approaches to dealing with loss and seeking justice.
Employing multiple devices to increase depth, his masterful use of soliloquies allows insight into the character's innermost thoughts and emotions on his journey, inviting the audience into his psyche. The story's complex language, filled with wordplay, metaphor, and paradox, contributes to its enduring appeal and intellectual richness. The setting of the Bodhishttavas and gripping epic fantasy literature serves as a backdrop to the poignant exploration of complexities of human nature. Its enduring relevance lies in its exploration of timeless themes that resonate across eras due to its profound exploration of human nature, morality, the desire to always progress, and complexities of decision making.
The nuanced multidimensional characters, intricate plot, and depth ensure its lasting significance, inviting continued analysis and interpretation. The universality of their hidden meanings allows them to transcend time, resonating with audiences across generations, inviting introspection into the depths of the human psyche.
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I only cited the incomplete part in conjunction with the literature and his ancient texts showing more of him, as I could only see some of the incomplete Bohishttvas, but from what I could see, it sounds better than Lucifer which I had already read a few years ago, there are more long texts involving him and the level of his writing, but I'm afraid that RUclips will think I'm sending you Spam, apart from the problem of exceeding the characters which I would have to divide into many, many parts, which would take a lot of time for you and me, who am doing more than one thing at once for now, and I had to divide the text into small ones because RUclips won't let me send it in full. But your reaction made me curious, what do you think of Sun Wukong as a character himself? I would love to know your opinion and if it makes the list.
My current list is
1. Faust
2. Stephen Dedalus
3. Nikolai Stavrogin
4. Leopold Bloom
5. Harry Haller
6. Ivan Karamazov
7. Hamlet
8. Lev Myshkin
9. Zarathustra
10. Rodion Raskolnikov
Like Guin, Gandalf, and Rand'al Thor are on this list, so are Ged (Tales of Earthsea), Conan the Barbarian, Vecna (D&D), Erick of Meliboné, D (Vampire Hunter D), The Emperor of Mankind, and Horus ( Warhammer), Garrosh Hellscream, Lich King, Thrall and Llilidan Stormrage (World of Warcraft), and many others and countless various fantasy characters should also be in it, actually.
And about just Peter, Silver Surfer, Charles and Erick/Magneto, The Punisher, Daredevil, Logan/Wolverine and Doctor Doom should also be on the list, but ok, that's your opinion.
With the exception of Conan and Elric, the others mentioned are not even close to this list.
Some of the other characters from Marvel that you mentioned are next to Peter if I had to make a list of the best written characters from said industry, and could enter in a extended top, like 300 or 200;
10- The Sentry (Robert Reynolds)
9- Molecule Man (Owen Reece)
8- Captain America (Steve Rogers)
7- Thor Odinson
6- Silver Surfer (Norrin Radd)
5- Daredevil (Matt Murdock)
4- The Punisher (Frank Castle)
3- Doctor Doom (Victor von Doom)
2- Magneto (Max Eisenhardt)
1- Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
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Ah, I understand your point better now, but why don't at least Vecna, Lilidan or Garrosh make the list? Lilidan has one of the best stories of redemption and self-quest I've ever seen, and Garrosh has such a deep and interesting ideology, motivation, and complex statements that to this day the WOW community has a giant watershed in intense debate between people. who agree and disagree with what he thought.
@@vega-c5n That is not even a matter of they not being good, I simply think the other 100 characters listed are better.
Yo pense que algun personaje de la Saga de Dune estaria en el Top.
Gostei.
Where would you left Kumagawa or Accelerator?(Toaru Majutsu)
What do you think is the best-written work of fiction you know?
Nice list, missing Holden
Fang yuan ?????
Win taste honestly
Darth Vader should be here imo.
Where would you put Siddharta Gautama from the pali cannon?
He'll put it somewhere above top 10
It makes no sense to consider a figure with historical records of having existed for this topic, it is much more a religious symbol. The Pali that you are talking about is the _vahāṁ hai_ that constitutes the _ṭipiṭakā,_ which is for a Buddhist what the Bible is for Christians, because the Vinaya in it regulates the rules and norms for monastic life, covering discipline and conduct of monks; the Suttas contain the speeches and teachings attributed to the Buddha and his disciples, including the sutras, and there is still the Abhidhamma which literally offers a blink-philosophical analysis as a doctrine.
Aren't Arjuna and rama worshipped and believed to be real by many 🤔@@PhoenixCrush
@@Rexmonkmode-ol8sn Ramayana is a literature work, unlike any Buddhist Sutra, which means it's possible to consider it regarding a fictional context, in the same way it's possible to regard Milton's Lucifer (Paradise Lost) for this topic. About Arjuna, the Mahabharata and by extension the Bhagavad Gita incorporate several oral and literary traditions, and Arjuna is widely credited as a historical figure, yes, but these epics are also normally reconcilable in literature even for Indians, many things have their mythological and poetic parts. Arjuna serves to represent the internal struggle between duty and morality and the dharmic evolution guided by Krishna, so it is believed that his existence is used to communicate the philosophies given in a scenario that was indeed real, but does not mean that it is completely sacred.
@@PhoenixCrush anyways Arjuna gaps this list and is easily rank 1 imo 🦅
¿Arthur Morgan y jhon martson donde quedan?
Bro loves DC and probably spends a bit too much time on fiction, glad Beato made it in top 10
IK this is your opinion but how is Joker and Batman almost equal?(I haven't finished all the comics nor have the motives to read it)
Roland
Michel should be above both Morgana and Jacopo in writing imo. Also not putting Zarathustra is a crime, great list nonetheless!
Zarathustra was a real person whose life was used as the basis for Nietzsche's thoughts and philosophy. In Ecce Homo, Nietzsche explains that he chose Zarathustra because he saw him as the first one to establish the moral system which eventually evolves into Judeo-Christian morals, and which Nietzsche sets out to demolish in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra". So I don't even think it makes sense to consider him for this topic.
@@PhoenixCrush Zarathustra was a real person, the character Zarathustra in the book TSZ is a separate character that just bears a loose connection to the real person. The character has been in a couple of these top 100 character videos due to how well written it is.
@@1Vain1 The "character" Zarathustra is nothing more than a satire used to convey Nietzsche's philosophy, we are not talking about an actual fictitious entity, only a reinterpretation. Nietzsche's proposal is to create the conditions for overcoming antagonistic principles, because his Zarathustra, as well as his philosophy, is understood beyond good and evil.
This is the equivalent of someone writing a book about Adolf Hitler and expressing his philosophical thoughts on him. Not because of that we should say "Wow, Hitler is such a well-written villain, he's in my top 100".
@@PhoenixCrushA person having a character written of their self doing things inside a story that the real person is not doing makes it by definition fiction. As soon as the individual is not the self but a reinterpretation of it, it becomes an imaginary idea and therefore is a seperate entity. The I which I am and the I that I could write myself being in a book will be two different people in two different worlds, one of which is real and one is fictitious. Besides, you did not say why you think the quality of this new entity Zarathustras is not worthy of being in the top 100 list, I am curious to hear it.
@@1Vain1 Except that there is no clear depiction of the Zarathustra "character" doing something that the "real" one didn't. The book conveys Nietzsche's philosophy through the journey of the Persian prophet, using concepts like the Letztermensch, the Übermensch, the Three Metamorphoses and the Eternal Return to describe it, that's all. If you really want to stretch it to consider it for this topic, that's on you.
I never said that the quality of the book's writing is not "worthy of being in the top 100", so I don't even know what you're talking about, in fact, one of the characters in this video (no. #43) is entirely based on Nietzsche's Zarathustra. Nietzsche is one of my favorite philosophers and I value his ideas, but this is a matter of separating an allegory to an actual fictional being.
Dou
What is your Discord?
Brother is this ranked?
Great list btw
It is.