This cave kicked my ass. I went back for a rematch.

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  • Опубликовано: 13 май 2022
  • Last year, @EliseFreshwaterBlizzard took me to Peak Cavern, and it defeated me. I'm back for round two. ■ AD: Signup for your FREE trial to Wondrium here: ow.ly/jZ4T30siJKm ■ Elise's channel: / elisefreshwaterblizzard ■ / elisefreshwaterblizzard
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  • @tomscottplus
    @tomscottplus  2 года назад +4244

    Without wanting to spoil the ending: by popular request, there's a final shot of us leaving the cave, just so people don't feel like we got stuck in there this time...!

  • @EliseFreshwaterBlizzard
    @EliseFreshwaterBlizzard 2 года назад +7775

    I just want to say that, even though I am a small channel, Tom Scott and team reviewed my documentaries + previous work and trusted me to take them through one of my favourite caves. I can't thank the team enough :) I had a fantastic time and quality of the video looks so amazing.
    For those Geologists- yes, I made a big mistake at 13:03 by saying 'carbide' instead of 'carbonate', I must have been thinking of carbide lamps! Simple slip of the tongue
    Also, if you were interested as to how the water is creating that Vados Trench at 14:30. The water is carrying debris and carbonic acid, which is why along with the weight, the trenches are formed slowly over time. I'm sure I'll get round to explaining all this in detail on my channel at some point! Thanks again, Tom ! :)

    • @stefevr
      @stefevr 2 года назад +207

      You were fantastically professional and supportive! There should be more people like you in the world

    • @edmundblackaddercoc8522
      @edmundblackaddercoc8522 2 года назад +12

      Where in Derbyshire is this cave please?

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo 2 года назад +115

      I have a question: is your surname really Freshwater-Blizzard? Cuz that's rad

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 года назад +27

      @@edmundblackaddercoc8522
      It’s called Devil’s Arse, so if you combine that with the county it’s in, you get a search term that will give you what you’re looking for.

    • @edmundblackaddercoc8522
      @edmundblackaddercoc8522 2 года назад +12

      @@ragnkja oh right, in Castleton. I didn't recognise it. Cheers.

  • @IzzyIkigai
    @IzzyIkigai 2 года назад +4437

    "I've been sitting in an Icebath in this wet suit at home" PLEASE DON'T TELL ME YOU DIDN'T FILM THIS TOM.

    • @xremming
      @xremming 2 года назад +444

      That would have been such perfect b-roll in this video.

    • @HereticB
      @HereticB 2 года назад

      To be perfectly honest I would like to watch tom sitting in an Icebath in a wet suit and just chillin' maybe as a youtube short for this channel

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +111

      NO, please tell us you did film it for next weeks video.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад +109

      I imagine the only problem might be there'd be a bit too much cursing for this channel.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 2 года назад +57

      I just imagine him talking to the camera like he's going to freeze to death sitting in his bath at home.

  • @johnhaines4163
    @johnhaines4163 2 года назад +2725

    I thought the bit where Tom identified his mood as being the same as when he'd had accidents before showed a great deal of self-awareness and maturity. A lesson for everyone there.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 года назад +105

      Yeah, I thought so too. Both identifying it and telling the others that it might be an issue and to keep him in check.

    • @jaewol359
      @jaewol359 2 года назад +209

      It’s like during the parkour episode where he’s feeling confident and the trainer tells him to not go for that last attempt.

    • @yargolocus4853
      @yargolocus4853 2 года назад +133

      @@jaewol359 definitely an injury opportunity. I heard the same from Adam Savage, about heavy machinery. The most likely time to get into an accident is when you have grown comfortable working with it (like lathe related hand injury)

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 2 года назад +34

      I'm not easily impressed by self awareness (I think it should be a given, which we can then all keep quiet about) but even I found that to be really sharp by Tom.

    • @kkkender
      @kkkender 2 года назад +38

      @@adamplace1414 what a wonderful world it'd be if self-awareness was a given

  • @sundhaug92
    @sundhaug92 2 года назад +1869

    I feel like Elise is the kind of person you'd want if you ever needed to be rescued

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 2 года назад +90

      shes SO DAMN supportive and empathetic :'))) makes me want to be her friend so bad haha. she sounds great

    • @BlissBatch
      @BlissBatch 2 года назад +24

      I feel like she's also the kind of person you'd want if you ever needed a cuddle

    • @LHyoutube
      @LHyoutube Год назад +7

      @@BlissBatch - Or more! 😉

    • @__-bk6mm
      @__-bk6mm Год назад +1

      Oh 100%

    • @zerglinglover2303
      @zerglinglover2303 Год назад +10

      @@LHyoutube weirdo

  • @ln5321
    @ln5321 2 года назад +664

    Freshwater-Blizzard is one of the coolest last names I've seen in a long time.

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 2 года назад +7

      IKR?

    • @John_Jim
      @John_Jim 2 года назад +5

      I usually dislike those new age type of names, but this one I actually like. Maybe it's the combination of the two.

    • @pixelmaster98
      @pixelmaster98 Год назад +6

      I see what you did there

    • @weakw1ll
      @weakw1ll Год назад

      I habe a hard time trying

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Год назад +33

      Freshwater-Blizzard sounds like a disgraced merger of two disgraced videogame companies.

  • @ailaG
    @ailaG 2 года назад +824

    Tom: gets beaten by a cave.
    Also Tom: relentlessly parkours, welds, flies blind and does all sorts of other things to practice.
    Buff Tom: Hello, cave. Have I told you how I got this scar on my face?

    • @homebrew07
      @homebrew07 2 года назад +11

      I bet that welding really helped him beat the cave

    • @rickybojangles162
      @rickybojangles162 Год назад +4

      Buff Tom!🤣🤣🤣 I almost died laughing 🤣

    • @xsct878
      @xsct878 Год назад +19

      The cave when Tom Scott plus walks in:

    • @TheHorrorDevotee
      @TheHorrorDevotee Год назад +10

      Chad Tom v the Virgin Cave

    • @bigguyjosh6420
      @bigguyjosh6420 Год назад +1

      Not funny didn't laugh

  • @MeTalkPrettyOneDay
    @MeTalkPrettyOneDay 2 года назад +84

    This is an excellent example of how to go into a potentially panic-attack inducing situation. Bring tools that make it easier (wetsuit), build up to the situation (ice baths), have someone there to ground you (Elise), regularly communicate your status and needs (Tom making requests and constantly updating the camera), and don't rush (Tom getting too excited and stopping himself).

  • @tomcardale5596
    @tomcardale5596 2 года назад +475

    Excellent subtitles!
    "Laughs triumphantly"
    "(grunts)"
    "(groans)"
    "(crew chuckles)"
    "(cackles)"

    • @jaewol359
      @jaewol359 2 года назад +35

      “(Meaty whack)(both chuckle)” vibes

    • @b33thr33kay
      @b33thr33kay 2 года назад +23

      Tom's subtitles are the best I have ever seen on RUclips.

    • @aim-to-misbehave5674
      @aim-to-misbehave5674 2 года назад +10

      The subtitles on the 'learning to ride a bike' TS+ video are also just comedy gold - and adds something to the experience for a hearing viewer like me while also perfectly capturing the vibes of the video for a deaf viewer

    • @nelsonnicholson6175
      @nelsonnicholson6175 2 года назад +8

      I really want to know how they get colour and italics and stuff like that. I've tried researching how to get those things before, but no luck.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 2 года назад +4

      (laughs) (water splashes)

  • @joelrundle9919
    @joelrundle9919 2 года назад +668

    I admire you so much for two things Tom. Being able to say you needed to leave last time, and coming back and beating this cave! Love it.

    • @vieffan
      @vieffan 2 года назад +8

      This so much. I was impressed last time. But this time even more. Props to Tom for even trying

  • @CreamAle
    @CreamAle 2 года назад +833

    Tom really is just a big ol child. Him explaining his scar gathering process was adorable.
    What a treasure of a person.

    • @i_e_she
      @i_e_she 2 года назад +3

      Truly :')

    • @renyhp
      @renyhp 2 года назад +38

      am I the only one who has never noticed the scar he's talking about? I can't even see it

    • @boxmeister3059
      @boxmeister3059 2 года назад +24

      I do think a lot of it was definitely anxiety talking, and as an anxiety talker I can relate, but it was fun to listen to nonetheless :))

    • @theboxygenie
      @theboxygenie 2 года назад +8

      @@renyhp Look for the video about the mechanical playground (~2015/6). There's a Park Bench about it too, I believe.

    • @chaseharms3624
      @chaseharms3624 Год назад

      Co is fl

  • @Finkelfunk
    @Finkelfunk 2 года назад +89

    Now I have an image in my head of Tom Scott sitting in this suit in his ice water bathtub while blasting the training music from Rocky on full volume

  • @MAlanThomasII
    @MAlanThomasII 2 года назад +111

    Where I've lived in the U.S. you learn that wet caves are a flash-flood hazard and not to go in them. That's not really 100% true, but casual amateurs who don't know what they're doing can and do get killed, so it's a warning the general public should observe. The commenters are presumably familiar with those warnings.
    Many wet caves around here, if there's good monitoring and you have an accurate weather forecast, are perfectly safe under the right conditions. Some of the ones that kill people can have as little as 10-15 minutes warning before the exit route is submerged in flowing water, which is enough time to escape if you're calm and fast, but they should absolutely not be entered by inexperienced spelunkers.

  • @apaleslimghost
    @apaleslimghost 2 года назад +34

    "We're coming up to something called 'Surprise View' now"
    "Oh, hello Pete!"
    was... was Pete the view

  • @Opus313
    @Opus313 2 года назад +54

    "...also, my brain started to shut down."
    I don't need a cave for that!

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 2 года назад +68

    8:36 I think it's really impressive that you have enough self-awareness to be able to recognize that mood and make sure that other people are keeping you in check. In any kind of dangerous sport it is far too easy to get complacent and impatient, and that's how people get injured. Knowing when to stop and take a step back and reassess a situation is one of the most important skills for these kinds of hobbies.

  • @CerealKiIIer
    @CerealKiIIer 2 года назад +89

    Thank you for having such great subtitles. It shows you care a lot. Always at the best place on the screen when needed. Color coded by speaker. Made by human instead of the auto function by youtube. Thanks!

    • @gakuyax
      @gakuyax Год назад +8

      I think he said once that subtitles is a right, not a privilege.

  • @alex0589
    @alex0589 2 года назад +162

    My respect for Tom just went way up.
    Going back isnt easy when you have a bad experience. Exposure therapy does wonders.

  • @katherinegaymes
    @katherinegaymes 2 года назад +650

    Tom, here is a brief explanation for why Americans dont like wet caves (at least in my experience of a few of our caves from over here). This video seemed a lot "safer" than many of the caves in the states. Mud and rivers are "easier" to navigate without something catastrophic happening because they tend to just cause you to fall nearby. Also, you had a direct walking path surrounded by walls. American caves tend to have just enough water to be slippery, and they tend to be steeper to navigate with much more serious risk factors, such as underground cliffs over a drop that will definitely cause a nasty fall. Also, for some reason i cant figure out, we treat these as tourist spots where you are expected to walk around in casual clothes (so you had better hope your shoes have good grip). Proper safety equipment, a small group with a knowledgeable guide, and a clear walking path make your video look a lot more fun than my previous experiences.

    • @ashmaybe9634
      @ashmaybe9634 2 года назад +43

      Maybe, there are plenty of really gnarly caves in the UK though. With slippery rock and steep falls etc.

    • @katherinegaymes
      @katherinegaymes 2 года назад +19

      @@ashmaybe9634 for those gnarly caves, do yall wear safety equipment or just a t-shirt and shorts?

    • @SharienGaming
      @SharienGaming 2 года назад +78

      @@katherinegaymes not sure how its in the UK specifically, but as far as i am aware, here in germany you arent even allowed to enter those caves without safety equipment and depending on the cave, an appropriate level of experience - from what i recall from my childhood when visiting fairly safe tourist-y caves, even there everyone had to wear helmets at the very least...
      so i would expect that people going into these kinds of caves in the UK go in with proper gear

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo 2 года назад +6

      @@katherinegaymes Good question, I think that's what makes or breaks the accident statistics

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 года назад +11

      This one is a tourist attraction, and as you can see, they’re outfitted appropriately for the cave they’re exploring.

  • @JordanBeagle
    @JordanBeagle Год назад +19

    5:40 I love how friendly and accommodating Ellise is

  • @armaanmonnink6790
    @armaanmonnink6790 2 года назад +537

    Hi Tom, I have an idea for a new Tom Scott Plus video: mountain biking! I want to see if you kept practicing after the initial video, we want to see that learning curve! You could maybe start by going over small hills on a parkour to practice the techniques and than try a final big jump! Love your vids, groetjes uit Nederland🇳🇱.

    • @sby60118
      @sby60118 2 года назад +4

      Great idea!

    • @simonholmqvist8017
      @simonholmqvist8017 2 года назад +5

      Yes, mountainbiking would be fun!

    • @evgeniipavlov5440
      @evgeniipavlov5440 2 года назад +23

      Your last sentence made me chortle. Despite the Dutchs' propensity for bikes, mountain biking (or mountain anything) is the last thing I would associate with The Netherlands. Vaalserberg is the sole "highest mountain" in any country for which I've managed to reach the summit (amusingly by bicycle).

    • @kop-gaming6413
      @kop-gaming6413 2 года назад +5

      Or try to enter the driving against the wind thing in the Netherlands which already has a video on the regular tom Scott channel

    • @AalbertTorsius
      @AalbertTorsius 2 года назад +5

      There's a cave in The Netherlands you can ride a bike in.

  • @sby60118
    @sby60118 2 года назад +46

    Tom Scott went caving Episode II : revenge of the Tom

    • @gold-star
      @gold-star 2 года назад

      👏👏👏👏

    • @sby60118
      @sby60118 2 года назад +4

      @@gold-star it’s too late Cave! I have the low ground!
      You underestimate my POWER!!

    • @hungrymusicwolf
      @hungrymusicwolf 2 года назад

      Let's see who gets out underneath this time cave!
      (ahead)

  • @hungrymusicwolf
    @hungrymusicwolf 2 года назад +70

    I actually feel proud of Tom, which is weird because he is much older and more accomplished than I am, but, man, this is just something that requires you to be brave and I feel proud.

  • @elijahh2220
    @elijahh2220 2 года назад +83

    Ah man, this is so wholesome. Tom's clearly overjoyed to be successfully doing this, and Elise seems just as happy that he's come back and conquered it.

    • @Zogerpogger
      @Zogerpogger 2 года назад +3

      Elise seems like a wonderful human

  • @sophiemay3421
    @sophiemay3421 2 года назад +41

    In a weird, parasocial way, I'm really proud of Tom for this.

  •  2 года назад +376

    I remember caving in southern france during the nineties. we entered a part that looked like a ~50m deep triangular rift, from the top and crept along it's upper edge, when a friend of mine suddenly lost grip and fell... about 5m to smash to the,until then perfectly invisible plane of perfectly clear, perfectly still and surprisingly cold water... still far better than dropping another 45m, or so.

    • @shibasurfing
      @shibasurfing 2 года назад

      Yep, you did that and we're here watching a dude having 0.1% of your balls

    • @LethalLuggage
      @LethalLuggage 2 года назад +66

      Jesus even reading that gives me chills.

    • @Carebearritual
      @Carebearritual 2 года назад +21

      yeah this is making me stiffen up that’s terrifying. but amazing movie material

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo 2 года назад +15

      I can see the scene like one of those accident-retelling movies from the 90's

    •  2 года назад +60

      well, we knew there shouldn't be a drop, since we had seen the map and had brought ropes otherwise.... but the optical illusion was so perfect, that we didn't realize, it was the 'tricky passage along the lake' part, we where facing, until Stephan dropped in.

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 2 года назад +392

    As an American who is not a caver but enjoys going into caves, I'm curious about the Americans being shocked by wet caves for non-cavers? I guess maybe I haven't been to wet caves actually in the US, but there are some very popular and frequently-touristed wet caves I've been to and loved, like ATM in Belize and Waitomo Caves in New Zealand, and it's not like they're "easy" but they're definitely done and safely doable for tourists.

    • @theirishninja2070
      @theirishninja2070 2 года назад +110

      I am also not a caver, but I think its because a lot of caves can quickly fill up with water if you aren't careful. Being in a tight space quickly filling with water is a definitely an easy way to die.

    • @brandonfrancey5592
      @brandonfrancey5592 2 года назад +106

      I believe the issue is flash floods. There are many areas where with little warning the water can rise fast and suddenly cutting off exits and can occur on the clearest and sunniest of days.

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli 2 года назад +64

      One of my theories is that in mainland America, because it is bigger in general, nature seems to provide a lot more treacherous environments in wet caves on average, making it harder to predict when something wrong is about to happen. On the other hand, the cave visited in this video is a safe and well documented one. Europe does have its fair share of dangerous caves too, but often on a smaller scale than those you find on bigger continents. (There are some big ones underneath most central mountain ranges in mainland Europe, but I don't think Europe would win on risk factor or total size of the cave system.)

    • @rek8193
      @rek8193 2 года назад +91

      For someone that only knows dry(er) caves, that much water in a cave instantly makes me think of rising or falling water levels. Imagine a random point in this video where over the course of 5 or less minutes the water had suddenly risen a meter. You could be trapped underground for who knows how long or simply die on the spot. If it's rain that leads to the water rising, you may not even know it's raining until it's too late.
      The most famous recent example is probably the football team in Thailand in 2018, when their cave flooded after a rainfall, they were trapped for two weeks while people from all over the world came together to rescue them.

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli 2 года назад +8

      @@rek8193 Fair point. I had almost forgotten about that event, but yes, wherever you get tropical rainfall, there is a higher risk when entering any wet cave system susceptible to changes in water table or local precipitation drainage.

  • @gooball2005
    @gooball2005 2 года назад +51

    I love how Tom overcomes himself like this without regard for how others might judge him. Some people try to hide their flaws and put on a facade, and other people like Tom embrace their mishaps and work to improve.

  • @bernicechong5323
    @bernicechong5323 2 года назад +332

    haha tom going ahead and using tech to defeat the cave is like getting the cheat codes to beat the difficult part of a game (but also good on you for going back at all! I wish I had that kind of persistence to go at something again after failure)

    • @landsgevaer
      @landsgevaer 2 года назад +16

      Aren't they *all* using tech?
      Wouldn't go there without a flashlight of some sort.

    • @lorenzmaut3708
      @lorenzmaut3708 2 года назад +12

      Well it's more like using cheats in a horror game to advance in the game, like maybe removing a certain enemy or replacing it with something less threatening, like some people in Subnautica installed mods to remove some spiders creatures that were useless but you had to pass trough an are to reach the end of the story

    • @yargolocus4853
      @yargolocus4853 2 года назад +33

      I'd more so call this a completely fair training and preparation montage. He did his research, got required items and even sat in an ice bath to prep himself in wetsuit.

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang 2 года назад +19

      Not cheat codes. Just exploring easier areas to get better gear and level up your endurance.

    • @pietroalessandrini
      @pietroalessandrini 2 года назад +10

      I feel it's more like using all thise potions you were saving for "later" and realize the boss is much easier with those

  • @narnigrin
    @narnigrin 2 года назад +4

    "I'll never not be more ready than this"
    So ... you'll always be more ready than this. Got it.

  • @JimOHalloran
    @JimOHalloran 2 года назад +23

    If the purpose of this channel is to answer the question "Is there anything Tom Scott can't do?", then until now the answer was "Caving". After this video, I don't think we know the answer. Good stuff! I never thought we'd see Tom go back to the cave.

  • @twojuiceman
    @twojuiceman 2 года назад +22

    American non-caver here. When I was in the boy scouts we booked a special off-the-regular-tourist-route guided tour of Longhorn Cavern in Texas, and it was very wet. They fitted us with helmets and knee pads and whatnot, and the water was maybe waist deep in some parts.
    It's a state park, though, so they had checked all the water levels beforehand and they knew it was safe. I certainly wouldn't venture into a wet cave without a guide

  • @Dra9ontail2
    @Dra9ontail2 2 года назад +35

    You are incredibly brave for returning to a wet, freezing cave after your first experience with it. Also training at home with ice baths?! The dedication is real, and it paid off! I am proud of you, Tom!

  • @jack8465
    @jack8465 2 года назад +15

    It seems like Tom's preoccupation with anxiety over the cold water exposure took over any anxiety about wading through a cave half submerged in water. That would absolutely terrify me. Congrats Tom, it's incredible watching you push yourself out of your comfort zones, all with a big smile on your face.

  • @RJFerret
    @RJFerret 2 года назад +122

    As someone who has caved in various parts of the US (mostly Eastern, some Western), we have more caves that are "dead"/dry and/or have dry sections. A wet suit is not typical gear for caving here. Multiple light sources, clothing for 50° temps which can get muddy, appropriate footwear, gloves if desired... There's a cave in the SE half "living"/wet and the other half dry/dead as the water flow changed such that one side is still "growing" while the other is completely dry.
    So wet mud is expected, but little standing water. I caved for years until I got my feet wet. Plenty of crawling through.
    There are three other categories of caves which are different experiences, that many US cavers don't do, "wading" which correlates to what you did; diving underwater, which is a whole other very deadly thing; and vertical caves, which require ropework, abseiling and ascending.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад +4

      So it's mostly just because of geology? Like, are British caves naturally wetter?

    • @IanNewborn
      @IanNewborn 2 года назад +12

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 I was talking to some geologists about Limestone aquifers recently. The UK ones are much deeper, the US ones are over a wider area. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

    • @allanp5
      @allanp5 2 года назад +7

      Tom and Elise were caving in Derbyshire where there is a real mixture of caves. Some, such as this one are 'active', others are fossil systems and dry. There are also a range of old mines, mainly from the 1700s and 1800s, although some are much older. Sometimes a mine will drain water from a cave system leaving it dry. Ducks (partially flooded passages but with some room to breathe) and sumps (flooded passages) sometimes free-divable are not uncommon in the UK. They are perhaps a little less common in Derbyshire though
      Many UK cavers will have wetsuits for wetter caves but probably wouldn't use them on a trip like this.

    • @brushnit9212
      @brushnit9212 Год назад +1

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 And how much. More area in America, more caves, and therefor a higher total of dry caves, wet caves, massive caves, and easily/very difficult to navigate caves.
      Also America has more mountain ranges and varied topography, possibly lending to more dry caves. So many variables

    • @Tuzszo
      @Tuzszo Год назад +1

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Great Britain as a whole is naturally much wetter than the average for the U.S. Additionally, most of the really well-known caves in the U.S are in very dry inland regions like Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, etc.

  • @mamf6175
    @mamf6175 2 года назад +14

    Tom shows up again. This time in full gear.
    The cave: Why do I hear boss music?

  • @PaganSamurai
    @PaganSamurai 2 года назад +16

    I love how supportive Elise is. She's absolutely delightful to watch in videos, and seems like genuinely a wonderful person.

  • @yangto996
    @yangto996 2 года назад +58

    So happy to see Elise back on the channel!! You guys have great interactions

  • @JouvaMoufette
    @JouvaMoufette 2 года назад +16

    I like that Tom is way way more happy this time. The little bit of prep that he did went a long way.

  • @MichaelBerthelsen
    @MichaelBerthelsen 2 года назад +2

    "AAAAWWWWHHH, RIGHT down my back!"
    'Burt Bacharach, back, crack, and sack'-memories come flooding back...😅

  • @Uhlbelk
    @Uhlbelk 2 года назад +8

    I remember spelunking as a child in a cave that you had to crawl on your belly to get through, without all the fancy gear and lights. Sometimes I'm amazed I am still alive.

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture 2 года назад +9

    I like the idea of someone going "you know what would be brilliant? If we could have a ladder here!"amd then people hauled a ladder all the way to that point 😂 That must have been a real challenge.

  • @kiranalexander8846
    @kiranalexander8846 2 года назад +38

    I love that you've pushed yourself to go back and do this again, and it's amazing to see how supportive Elise is. Also - very good shout on the wetsuit!

    • @kiranalexander8846
      @kiranalexander8846 2 года назад +4

      This is what my scout leader would have called a 'dry' cave, we had a joke that if he said it was wet, it meant we had to actually swim 😅

  • @iatenailsforbreakfast8209
    @iatenailsforbreakfast8209 Год назад +7

    Elise seems so sweet and genuinely excited to show people these things

  • @justmerc1642
    @justmerc1642 2 года назад +7

    Alternative title: Red Shirt Redemption

  • @katbairwell
    @katbairwell 2 года назад +84

    Tom, you are such a brave soul to go back and have another go, it seems a weird thing to say to someone I've never met, but I'm so proud of you!

  • @reverberer
    @reverberer 2 года назад +49

    Good on ya Tom for not letting it beat ya. Having been in the same sort of position I'm glad I went back in.

  • @evgeniipavlov5440
    @evgeniipavlov5440 2 года назад +86

    A tad off-topic, but are the multi-colored captions something done by the producers or is it a new smart YT feature? Either way, it's great and really helpful.

    • @floobdedoop2892
      @floobdedoop2892 2 года назад +85

      Tom specifically goes out of the way to provide them. He's got a long twitter post about it, if I remember right.

    • @klabence
      @klabence 2 года назад +33

      You could do colored captions in RUclips in a long way, but it's quite a hidden feature, so only music videos esp. from the Japanese use them, or third-party caption creators like Tom hires.

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja 2 года назад +20

      Ever since I saw subtitles on the BBC that used them it's become my mental gold standard. Such a useful feature.

    • @h-Films
      @h-Films 2 года назад +4

      it's been on yt for a while. but not natively supported and you have to upload a custom file

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 2 года назад +2

      @@klabence At least back when community captions were still a thing, RUclips's own editor couldn't do colours or any other formatting.

  • @sheilaross1449
    @sheilaross1449 2 года назад +29

    Last summer, my partner tried to hike the Superior Coastal Trail. A couple of days in, she slipped in mud, fell hard, and had to be carried out on a back board (for over an hour on uneven terrain). She seemed to have familiar feelings about it to what you expressed in the previous caving video.
    I'm pleased for you that your second attempt went so much better. I'm hoping she'll have similar success when she tries again in September.

    • @slook7094
      @slook7094 2 года назад

      And that's why American cavers don't like wet caves for amateurs.

    • @MrDpinon6
      @MrDpinon6 Год назад

      @@slook7094 7uh

  • @thejoker5958
    @thejoker5958 Год назад +5

    Watching Tom conquer his fears and get through difficult situations is legitimately inspiring.

  • @punklejunk
    @punklejunk Год назад +3

    Round of applause for Elise, being the exact patient and brilliant guide Tom needed in such circumstance. You were very reassuring, encouraging. And even when you weren't certain what was going on with Tom, you displayed tact and leadership to talk him down in just the right way. He had a great time in the end.

  • @phyphor
    @phyphor 2 года назад +6

    I was amazed by your ability to keep talking about your feelings last time.
    I am even more amazed by your ability to go back and face something that defeated you before, especially when it did do so in such a brutal way.
    And then to have you recognise that your mood can lead you to doing things fast and dangerous so asking to be checked is another great example of how to be.

  • @hugoiwata
    @hugoiwata 2 года назад +2

    Freshwater-Blizzard is officially the best surname I've ever seen

  • @kylem9476
    @kylem9476 2 года назад +40

    As a fellow underground explorer, I applaud your determination to go back under.

  • @evanrigel954
    @evanrigel954 2 года назад +33

    i'm claustrophobic and physically disabled, so stuff like this terrifies me, but good on you tom for facing it a second time

  • @MusikCassette
    @MusikCassette 2 года назад +4

    Respect for the attempt in the first place.
    Extra respect for breaking up, when you did not feel save.
    Extra respect for coming back after what you went through last time.
    No extra respect, for going through this time, but glad for you it worked out.

  • @joshtheowl3590
    @joshtheowl3590 2 года назад +8

    Tom has a copy
    Cave has a copy
    Cave has a Tom
    Tom has a cave

  • @vega0727
    @vega0727 2 года назад +9

    Major respect for even attempting again after such a tramatic previous experience.

  • @vish7963
    @vish7963 2 года назад +24

    man the person who writes subtitles on your videos needs a pay raise!!

  • @SMTRodent
    @SMTRodent 2 года назад +9

    I absolutely noped out of the last video before Tom got far at all. It's cool to have another go at seeing the cave.l

  • @shannonb6552
    @shannonb6552 2 года назад +4

    Thank you, Tom, for the excellent captions you and your team provide! Really sets the standard for RUclips captions.

  • @damionlee7658
    @damionlee7658 2 года назад +5

    I'm totally made up for Tom going back and getting to see the chamber this time. Huge props to Elise, both accomplished and very informative & entertaining.

  • @BoogerDad
    @BoogerDad 2 года назад +5

    Elise being an absolute gem. I'd go see it, just to meet her

  • @amanda-we9fv
    @amanda-we9fv 2 года назад +9

    Elise is so professional and caring, wow!

  • @PontusWelin
    @PontusWelin 2 года назад +5

    Good job Tom!
    I think that feeling of this type of compliments being patronizing is worth talking about. It’s probably based on personal insecurities and false assumptions of others expectations on you. But what you did is so strong! It’s not easy to face your fears! You should be proud!

  • @yazunhc
    @yazunhc Год назад +4

    Tom is always so adorably giggly.

  • @ThePokevader
    @ThePokevader 2 года назад +7

    Unbelievable timing on this; I was thinking about this very video last night before bed and Im pumped to see the rematch

  • @Zelmel
    @Zelmel 2 года назад +7

    Good on you working on going back through and confronting a place/thing that gave you a panic attack previously! A big problem from panic attacks can be aversion to perceived triggers so doing this kind of prep and exposure can be really hard for many people.

  • @Buttersaemmel
    @Buttersaemmel 2 года назад +3

    backing out of it not beeing able to complete the full way trough but still comming back to finally get trought with it...mad respect Tom!

  • @nathanisip
    @nathanisip 2 года назад +2

    Well done, Tom! Kudos for giving it a second chance. Peak Cavern is beautiful and it’s a delight to see the parts beyond the public tours.

  • @WryAun
    @WryAun 2 года назад +3

    Good on ya mate! Takes real character to go back in and face a situation like that again. I'm impressed!
    Thanks as usual for the captions!

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun 2 года назад +2

    Yeah!! So glad you decided to have a go at it again. It looks like an amazing (and huge) cave to explore, and I'm glad you found a way to deal with the cold water that works for you. Ever since the last/first one, I've been watching Elise's channel, and she's SO good about caving, I don't think you could have hoped for a better person at your side. Well done - and glad you had fun!

  • @taylorhancock5834
    @taylorhancock5834 2 года назад +2

    I’m incredibly proud of you for training, going back in, and actually going through the cave! As someone with a lot of cave-related fears, this actually quelled quite a few of them, and I just have to give full props to everyone who took you through the cave. The words of encouragement and advice obviously made the trip a lot easier and I hope I have people like you if I ever decide to go caving myself!

  • @domsusefulstuff
    @domsusefulstuff 2 года назад +2

    I've always appreciated your candidness during your adventures and it was great to see your honesty and openness about this experience. I often remember your resolve at difficult times and it helps me be braver. I'm glad you got to see the cave, well done!

  • @cuddlestsq2730
    @cuddlestsq2730 Год назад

    Brilliant! Well done, Tom! I'm happy you could get through it this time.

  • @kamackmac
    @kamackmac 2 года назад +2

    Wow I haven't wanted to purchase from an ad-read in a long while. But when you said that you've looked at your viewer statistics, and a lot of us like long video essays/documentaries, I was like, "WAIT A SEC, THAT'S ME." I watch so many long videos that my *therapist* and I get distracted with me talking about the random things I know. Jack of all trades, master of none. When money isn't so tight, I may just have to give Wondrium a shot. Might take a year, but I'll get there I hope.

  • @esverker7018
    @esverker7018 2 года назад +2

    Still so psyched to see Tom in the Peak District caves, so close to where my family lives inn Edale/Castleton! I grew up visiting these caves.

  • @Munden
    @Munden 2 года назад +1

    Way to go Tom! I admire that you posted the first cave video, and now even more so that you went back to try it again, and succeed!

  • @ABH-82
    @ABH-82 2 года назад +18

    Freshwater-Blizzard is easily one of the best surnames in the world

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад +3

    This video is one of those things where I didn't realize how much I wanted it until I saw it. I'm so happy to see some closure. This channel practically has an entire plot, now.

  • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
    @GuyWithAnAmazingHat 2 года назад +184

    On the topic of wet caves, there was a scene in Moon Knight involving a wet cave, it took me a while to understand what happened after the scene, I guess Americans really do care about wet caves a lot more.

    • @Natibe_
      @Natibe_ 2 года назад +83

      Wet caves especially in the western US have a tendency to flood quickly and in ways that are hard to predict. On the east coast (and, I assume, in Britain) wet caves are a lot more predictable. For example, I’ve been to an underwater river in Tennessee, the river cuts down through the rock and there’s even a shoreline within the cave! But it was perfectly safe because the flooding in the area is much less unpredictable. My guess is that the stigma against wet caves has a lot to do with Hollywood making the media in this country and them being worse over there.

    • @Its-Just-Zip
      @Its-Just-Zip 2 года назад +26

      @@Natibe_ eastern US caves can be a bit more like this. But yeh, America's geology is a bit more conducive to rapid flooding in caves.

    • @skylar7320
      @skylar7320 2 года назад +28

      @Natibe_ I think you’ve got something there. Living in the western US, caves can flood incredibly fast and at huge distances from the storefront is how I was taught. Very similar to our flash floods out here which can travel somewhere in the tens of miles ahead of a storm over previously dry riverbed and under a perfectly clear sky.

    • @MobiusPeverell
      @MobiusPeverell 2 года назад +5

      @@Natibe_ I think you're right about it being an East/West thing. I was certainly never warned about it growing up in Pennsylvania - though most of our caves were more of shallow depressions in the rock than proper caves anyway.

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja 2 года назад +8

      @@skylar7320 I've had arroyo safety drilled into me so much I never thought about the influence on caves but yeah, I think you're right. In the Southwest we're taught to be wary of anywhere that looks like water's flowed there recently, particularly during monsoon season.

  • @OscelotTheCat
    @OscelotTheCat Год назад

    Fantastic job! I appreciate the approach you took to get around the issue you were having. I'm glad you figured it out in the end, and came back!

  • @OGSinisterPotato
    @OGSinisterPotato 2 года назад +1

    All your videos are genuinely a pleasure to watch. Thanks for the content :)

  • @christinesizemore3
    @christinesizemore3 2 года назад +1

    I'm so happy for you that you were able to revisit and conquer a personal stumbling block. I'm also very impressed with how effectively you're able to introspect and see how you're feeling, intuit what effect it will have, and mitigate (or delegate) to stay safe and healthy!

  • @cearaa1950
    @cearaa1950 2 года назад

    Glad to see you've gone back to the cave and had a great time!! This video was great to watch, and gave me real food for thought when you brought up that you often hurt yourself when you were excited. Makes me want to take a hard look at myself and see if I've got anything similar!

  • @takinastabatit
    @takinastabatit 2 года назад +7

    Okay, I was alright until you got to that last watery bit with "less headroom." Then I couldn't breathe. Good on you for going back! That vadose trench was so cool.

  • @ktang001
    @ktang001 2 года назад +3

    I'm alright with dry caves, not sure about wet caves. I guess I will have to experience it for myself to find out how I cope with it. And Elise is the kind of person I would trust to guide me through it!

  • @Blabla130
    @Blabla130 2 года назад +2

    The most exciting "Previously" since "Previously on Avatar"

  • @stephenmacartney
    @stephenmacartney 2 года назад +1

    Been subscribed to Elise's channel since your last collaboration and her content is great! So glad to see this update!

  • @ljphoenix4341
    @ljphoenix4341 2 года назад +2

    Bravo Tom, well done for going back and trying again!

  • @kylr_1415
    @kylr_1415 Год назад +2

    I knew I should have kept this video for when I was feeling sad. Whole mood improved by a 18 minute video. Tom never disappoints

  • @Duncan2201
    @Duncan2201 2 года назад +3

    So glad Tom returned to this! Elise's enthusiasm is infectious!

  • @MindstabThrull
    @MindstabThrull 2 года назад +1

    Congratulations Tom for making it through! I know myself that once I find a thing and say "I can't do that", that's the end of it (I have issues with heights and REALLY don't like roller coasters, for example). I'm glad you found a way to give it another go and this time, you were successful!

  • @anto687
    @anto687 2 года назад +3

    Glad to see you back, and also need to thank you for introducing me to Elise’s channel in your first visit. I really really enjoy her content and am proud to be a supporter on Patreon.

  • @EifelBlaulichtTV
    @EifelBlaulichtTV 2 года назад +25

    Nice to see you face your arch nemesis once again 😂

    • @sby60118
      @sby60118 2 года назад +2

      Tom’s one true enemy

    • @EifelBlaulichtTV
      @EifelBlaulichtTV 2 года назад +1

      @@sby60118 sure is. But good to see the joy in him defeating the enemy.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад

      No, his archnemesis is knowledge of Finland.

  • @lieth43
    @lieth43 2 года назад +12

    I am glad you where able to go back and surpass yourself this time.

  • @XDeadzX
    @XDeadzX 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the amazing subtitle job on this video. So rare to see videos so complete and feature rich.

  • @douglasbadger9049
    @douglasbadger9049 2 года назад +4

    Fantastic work Tom, you should be proud of yourself

  • @wolframstahl1263
    @wolframstahl1263 2 года назад +6

    Not sure if this is Tom being brave or stubborn. Either way, I'm once again impressed.

  • @CED99
    @CED99 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video Tom, well done on beating the cold water shock