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The TOP 2 Hybrid Tires for 2023- Full Review & Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2023
- The TOP 2 Hybrid Tires for 2023- Full Review & Comparison
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What is difference 8n price of nitto grapplers versus toyo OC r/t trail in size 315/70r27?
Good info Neal. I tried most of the Hybrid tires including the Yoko X-AT...and went back to a AT tire. The best one I have found to date that does just about everything good from snow, trailering heavy equipment into jobsites and trailering heavy is the Falcon Wildpeak. In the looks department it falls a lil short vs the hybrids but after 20k miles on my 2020 F250 7.3 they don't get as loud.
Thanks Jeff
How were the X-AT
Neal, I went with Maxxis Razr AT-811 and am so happy with them. After 2 sets of Ridge Grapplers on my F150 and a set on our 4Runner, I wanted to see what else was out there and price wise the Razrs beat the Ridge Grappler hands down. Razr is excellent and in my opinion seems quieter than the Grappler on the highway! 295/60/20. Keep up the great videos!
I agree with you. Got the Maxxis AT’s on my raptor and am very happy with them! Very similar to ridge grapplers but better in every way, IMO. I believe price is better on them as well. I call the Maxxis my sleeper tire cause no one seems to know about them.
Awesome I love Maxxis too
I couldn't get pass maxxis tread depth. Just looks half worn from the start.
@@AmericanOutdoors1 really? I never thought that. I’ve had them for a year and a half-maybe 2 years now and they’re holding up amazingly
@@Corbob71 it might be different depending on the size tire you buy and for mine they start at 15/32. I wish they started closer to 17/32. Maybe it's a moot difference but I ended up with Toyo rt trail which is amazing so far. Either way though, they both are good tire makers.
as someone who has BOTH the RG and RT TRAIL i think they’re both great. HOWEVER the RT TRAIL does cost more than the RG unfortunately..
Yes true
Is it worth the higher price? Which one wins on the road? Noise, comfort?
@@DirtRoad_Chronicles the RT TRAILS come with milage warranty however the RIDGE GRAPPLERS do not.
@@henryscreations yeah that’s rarely seen on a RT which is great but I was asking from your experience which one is quieter and comfortable on longer highway trips? Also which one takes more of a hit on your mpgs?
@@DirtRoad_Chronicles long story short. unless you're doing any crazy off roading, the RT TRAILS would be my go to any day of the week lol.
Great video! Running the Nitto Recon Grapplers in 37x12.50r17 on my Gladiator. Really pleased with them!
How’s the recon’s ride noise quality and handling in wet/rainy situations so far?
I also got 130k out of mine, 295 55 20 on a shevy 1500
@@zachhinson3401I had recons on my truck and also had ridge. Recons are a lot quieter in comparison and a lot smoother on the road. I would get recons again.
Love the original Toyo RT..... 35's on 17's 👍👍
Yes 👍
Neal, big fan of your videos. I'm from Toronto and I love how you have some Raptors jerseys on your wall! 👏🏼 I'm leaning towards the Recon Grapplers which I saw you guys used recently on a build. What do you think of those? (will be going 35x11.50r20). Thanks! Keep up the great work!
Thanks you
I will review them
Great video. really liking how those toyo open country rt trails look -
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Soooooo many choices. Help me out. Bought a 23 tundra. 1794 Trd. Leveling it. I’ve run bf k02s for YEARS. Wanting something different. I leased the truck so I won’t own it after 40k miles. That said, the falkens that came on it are trash. I need a stance that says “mud, no problem. Night out with the wife, also no problem.”
Canyon go wrong with toyo mt🤷🏽♂️
Love my Toyo R/T’s!
I highly recommend the rt trail. Amazing tire and performance and looks phenomenal. No road noise and balance very well.
Yes absolutely
I drove 285/55r22 Nitto Ridge Grapplers for 50k and I switched to the same size 285/55r22 Toyo AT3 and they are way quieter and WAY better in the snow on my F-150
I love the Netto Mud Grappler and I put 3 sets on my Ram 2500. The problem is I got about 25000 miles out of each set and I had to replace them, so I switched to the 35-12.50-17 Ridge Grappler, and they lasted me 6 years (I don’t know the mileage). I pull my tow hauler, and my tractor and the Ridge Grappler handled everything I gave it. I still have the Mud Grapplers on my Jeep, and I love the traction they give me, but with the heavier vehicle the Ridge Grappler is the ticket for me.
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Love your vids! A Athens native I’m going to come see you one day for a truck! Keep them coming!
I heard a couple of guys that had vibration issues with the Nittos on brand new trucks after few 1000s miles. Nitto blamed the truck, did not stand for their product. I would take the Toyos all the way.
Thanks for the detailed review. Yep, i watched it all!
I got a 2012 f150 fx4 tryin to put 22x12 with 33x12.5 nitto trail grapplers on it how much lift do you think I would need I don’t mind cutting crash bars and all that just wanna know the minimum I could get away with to get em on with no rubbing
Just a 2-2.5” level will work with a good bit of trimming 🙌🏼
My problem with RGs is after a year they are starting to crack already. I got 10 year old Goodyears MTRs on my tow rig and no cracking yet. Heck I had a BFG KM as a spare that was a use 17year old tire. And it didn't look much worse the my RGs that are 1 year old.
Iam wondering if they changed the compound cause Iam seeing some issues reported
Same here, cracking after two years and 22,000 mi. Have a spot almost a size of a quarter missing in the middle of tire. Never been off road. I do still have quite of thread left. But yes. After driving in the rain in these and hydroplane pretty bad three times. Luckily I just let off the gas and the 2500 straighten back out, thank you god. I’m not going back to RG
Same here 20k and they are cracking really bad in between the tread blocks. Don’t really feel safe driving on them. Changing out to the Toyo R/T Trail
Watched every second of it💪🏼💪🏼
Awesome thanks
I definitely watch the complete video
I find rotating my tire every 3000 miles I get better live out of them
Are these 2 tires the same size? Otherwise you cant truly compare the voids.
I got 131,000 miles at 6 years out of my Nito RG. Best tire I’ve ever had. With that said, I’m trying out the Toyo RT trail
You must have your Nitto RG on a Toyota Corolla. I have a 2500, and can’t get over 40,000 miles. But I do tow.
Wow!
I've never heard that, worked at tire shop years ago , buddy wore a set of Nitto out in 30k kms, they were mud grappler but definitely not impressed by this tire,toyo cost more ,but last longer, Toyo makes good tires
@@mikehd3904 I’m completely convinced that some tires are lemons and I’d imagine that all it takes is just a little bit off on their process to turn a good tire a not so good tire. I also firmly believe that frequent rotation and the way you drive has as much as anything to do with tire life as the quality of the tire. I ended up going with Toyo RT, have about 6000 miles on them and so far, I’m not seeing any noticeable wear on them. One positive note, the road noise is much much less then what I had become accustom to with the nitro tire. We’ll see about winter driving, hoping they preform better on ice and snow as their reviews say…
What about the kenda klever rt? They don’t cost near as much as these 2 and just as good.
I have a set, 25k on them. They were great, but I’m feeling with vibrations in the morning that go away once the tires are warm. I’ve gotten them balanced a few times so i’m gonna try the rt trail eventually.
How’s the ride noise quality and handling in wet/rainy situations on your Kendra klever rt’s?
@@zachhinson3401 I love them in the rain, they don’t step out on you unless you try and braking feels about as good as a jeep can do for being a refrigerator on wheels. Noise wise, they hum but it’s quieter than the wind noise so i wouldn’t say it’s anything crazy.
That being said like i said, they’re great for the first bit of life but i’ve consistently had issues with balancing and overnight they seem to develop a flat spot that vibrates the jeep a little when cold. Once the tires warm up it’s fine
@@zachhinson3401 I don’t have them. But I’ve never heard a bad thing about them. They are just as good if not better than ridge grapplers and about $500 less for a set
If you want to donate a set of RT Trails, I can give you a 40-50k mile review by the end of the year. (: Have 40k on RTs since Sept '22.
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Neither. Baja boss at. Been phenomenal in everything I've thrown at them. Also has 72k on them with 11/32 left out of 18/32. 7000 pound denali and tow aften as well.
Just bought some Toyo AT3’s , got home and saw they were made in Serbia!!! WTF!!!! They are going back tomorrow!!! So disappointed!!!’
Thanks for this but we need to hear less about how things look and more technical, scientific and performance insights.
Ridge grapplers are heavy for no reason, loud and drive like crap. The quick ware increases road noise substantially and slip on wet conditions so bad. Will never buy again
When did you buy your set?
True. Ridge Grappler looks super aggressive but performance is horrible. Bought me a set and sold them right quick! They aren't great tires. Definitely not #1..
The 37 inch RTs are about 10lbs lighter than the grapplers.
Two tires that your average joker can’t afford. 😢
Wtf are you doing for a living?
I’d love to see an update to the Trial grappler and the Toyo open country MT. Just a few changes could make these MT tires quieter and better lasting without giving up any of their mud and off road capabilities.
I had high hopes for the new BFG AT but am disappointed again by their focus on sales to OEM auto manufacturers. The new BFG AT looks like a snow and highway tire now specifically designed to improve gas mileage, smoother ride and ice and slush capabilities.
agreed thanks
Ran ridge grapplers on my 1500 and on my 2500.. now its time for new tires on my 2500 giving the toyo rt trail a shot 😎
So does the Toyo r/t trail have two different sidewalls? One having deeper lugs? I know pattern is same.
Is the 325/60/20 quite a bit more for a set of 4? I would love to have that extra little bit of rubber…. Is it worth it though?
Great video. What tire pressure is everyone running on the Ridge grapplers in a 35x12.5x20? Running on a 2021 F150 with Fox 2.0's. They seem harsh at 45 psi on shitty roads...
36-38
@RealDealNeal thank you sir! I wanted to run them at 36 but I wasn't sure if they would wear out unevenly/ faster...
There’s no tread life warranty on the Ridge grappler but my first set. I sold them with the wheels for $800 with 3/16 inch tread remaining and 96,000 miles on them.
Bf goodrich t/a kt or nitto?
Ko3 wins
I watched the entire video! Great info. I have a 2021 Nissan titan xd that is leveled at 2.5 to 3inches. I have a set of platinum stock wheels. What is the largest tire I can run without a lot of trimming?
285/65/20
ridge grappler sucks in the rain.
Lol I can't remember which was which with what and how after this video.
Scripts are priceless. Kidding, but thank you. Still trying to find the best 3 ply for my Bronco
Do Ridge Grapplers and RT Trails run about the same price wise?
Yes sir
@@RealDealNeal the local tire dealer informed me that the Ridge Grappler is only $1 per tire more than the Recon Grappler.
Inizialmente pensavo di montare sul mio Multivan le BF AT, ma le Toyo Open Country mi sembrano decisamente più belle.
I just bought a Super Duty 250 XL with the STX package and a snow plow front end package a 10,500 lb GVWR, came with the Bridgestone Dueler 275 70r 18s, I'm okay with the black stock 18" × 8" wide wheels , but I want to go with a little bigger tire on those rims , would you recommend 295 70r 18's or the Tremor size 285 75 18's, I don't want to do any mods to the suspension I believe it can handle either tire size.
I'm leaning to the Toyo Open Country RT, I like the hybrid concept, I live in central Wisconsin. A mixture of everything Mother Nature has to offer ha!
Thoughts anyone?
Nice job!
I went from Toyo mt’s to some ridge grapplers and suddenly I had all these exhaust leaks that I never noticed before. I’ve run a bunch of different at’s and the ridge grapplers are the quietest I’ve ever used. They’re great in snow and slush.
Went through mammoth on the 395 a few years back right after a big thanksgiving snow storm and didn’t have any issues. Kept going while many others had to chain up or turn around
Great Video very informative glad to see the side by side in the beginning to the real world at the end. Im looking to put rt trail or ridge grapplers on my 22 AT4 2500HD
Awesome Video.! We want Extraz
They are good new but age real fast… 12 k miles on mine and have weathering/dry rot. Not to mention they also look like a 35k+ miles…. They don’t come with a mileage warranty for a reason. So mine won’t reach 30k miles, they are much louder than my previous K02s. Going Baja Boss for my next tires.
Glad I bought a set of Dick cepeks fun country before they were rebadged MTs.
Facts!
Amazing video! Couldn't believe I found someone that made a comparison video for the exact 2 tires i was deciding on, ridge grappler and rt trail. After watching this video i decided to give the rt trail a shot. Your personal opinion comment about the trail using a slightly harder compound is what did it for me. I like the looks of the ridge grappler better but in the end if the harder compound can give me some longer-life tread wear than I'm all for the rt trail. Will be running LT295/70/18 on Xd Series Badlands 779 rims with a 2018 Ram 2500..Honestly though either tire is the right choice.
Awesome!
Down here in Columbus. Ran some km3 285 75 16 on my nissan frontier sv. It is a hunting truck / daily driver. Close to 5yrs on the kms Thanks for the video great job.
What about the Geolander X-AT
Toyo RT were the worst tires I have ever owned! Dangerous in wet weather!
Got 50k out of my old Toyo RT’s on a 2011 dodge ram 2500. Wanted to try the at3w but might have to try this RT trail
It’s been great for our customers
Just put on nitto ridge grapplers and just had a snow storm with 5 inches of snow and slush everywhere the grapplers were excellent in the snowy slushy slippery conditions super quiet on the highway and beastly through unplowed back roads it’s almost unfair and comical. no complaints. As for people saying they’re not good now that’s hilarious! You either don’t gotem or never had them on your vehicle.
Yes 💯
Well I have had em and never want em again. I have had two sets of Nitto Ridge Grapplers on two different trucks and they were absolutely garbage. If you do anything other than highway driving, they fail on rock lease roads within months. Chewed up and chunks taken out. For an "offroad" tire, they are not for me!
@@TGLASS24 all depends on how and where you drive often as well how fast etc you’re going through different rocky terrains or such
Ive had the og open country r/t. awful tire. Loud and rides terrible. the sidewall is wayyy to stiff. The ridge grapplers have been my go to. Especially for load range E. Tread life seemed to be about the same between them.
How quiet is the ko2? Ride quality?
I run bfg and have for years I go up and down the same hills in the winter of the plow accounts I’ve had for over 20 years.doesn’t matter what the tire was on my truck would slip and slide until I got aftermarket wheels with bfg 35x11.5 all terrain ko2 they are absolutely the best plow tires I’ve ever had but 50k miles as advertised is laughable maybe 20k of great traction then as far as I’m concerned once any tire has reached half of it’s tread life they go downhill. Once I hit half life or 20 or maybe 25k miles I get new ones and put used ones on market place and get 600 to 800 bucks to ease the pain of the new ones. And considering that I have 2 f250’s both with 9’6 high wing v plows and 1.5 yard sanders in the back.these tires are awesome I was gonna try the nitto ridge grapplers but not after reading more negative comments from the actual users but high praise from sellers. The only problems I’ve encountered with the bfg’s is balancing issues which is very frustrating. Idk looking at toyos,coopers and falkens now but see myself staying with bfg
I’m having my NITTO Grappler’s mounted tomorrow on my 2008 Wrangler Sahara.
How are you guys liking the new Toyo R/T Trails? Curious to hear how much miles your customers are getting out of them and the tread life on them. Stuck between ordering these or the Ridge Grapplers with you guys in the coming week
Yes we love the RT trail! Very similar to the Ridge Grappler
@@RealDealNeal how’s the tread life on it? And what can I customer expect to get out of them?
Good video with lots of info thanks
Very nice watched all
Helpful review thank you. I have the OG toyo RTs but switching it up with Nitto Ridge Grappler on my f150. The new Toyos don’t look as mean
Your welcome
Duratrac are all weather tires,
Ridge Grappler has 3 ply side wall...
I have 37/12.5/20 Toyo RT’s on my 2021 F250.They have 53,000 miles on them.They have been a great tire.My only complaint is they started getting louder around 30,000 mile.They are about to the end of their life.I ordered Nitto Ridge Grapplers today in the same size.I hope they do as well as my RT’s but quieter.
The Toyo AT3 and RT Trail are hands down better than the Ridge Grappler. The Ridge Grappler has a bad ass sidewall but that's all. It's TERRIBLE in the mud, snow and any wet conditions on road. Swapped out the Ridge Grappler for the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss and have been extremely impressed. I'll probably go back to the Toyo AT3 after my Baja Boss tires wear out since I spend more time on road now.
I’m thinking about getting the Baja boss at for my 4Runner. I like the ridge grapplers that are on my Cummins though. They’ve done me well towing my 40’ fifth wheel from state to state. Would you recommend them?
@@Bananahammock88 The Baja Boss are incredible tires. Far better than the Ridge Grappler. The Ridge Grapplers are the worst tire I've ever run on my Duramax. They are horrible when it rains and in any slick condition. Just an awful tire.
@@kernmw10 nice. Yeah it’s a toss up between the Baja Boss and the wildpeak at3w on which I’ll go with. Thank you
@@kernmw10 the worst tire I’ve run has been the ko2. I must have slid out turning left at stop lights over 10 times on those tires. I hated them. They would not grip in the rain let alone snow or ice.
Did you notice the weight difference when you switched to the Baja Boss AT’s?
Always watch your videos real deal!! I’m looking at getting a set of 35x12.50r17’s on my leveled cummins on the stock aluminum 17’s. These 2 are my choices. I like how the toyo is 67 pounds each vs nitto 75 pounds each.
Yes sir!
Ridge Grapplers are a good tire for looks, ride and longevity. But aren't very good in snow and slick conditions.
I switched from ridge grappler to the recon grappler and liked the recon better because it was a lot quieter on the road. Next set I might try the new open country rt2 just to have a comparison of all 3
They seem to have a softer ride or about the same?
@@chrisreynolds6152 hard to tell just felt smoother overall and not as noisy. I went from 33 to 35. Felt a lot more comfortable if that makes sense.
I’ve got 63k miles on my Ridge Grapplers. They are starting to get a little cupped out but that’s expected. I would estimate another 10k miles left. Keep them rotated every 7500 miles and they will last! Great tire!
Yes sir thanks
Ya but how do they last on gravel? Im BC , gravel roads all around, im running nexen mtx 12 ply, seem pretty rugged and good so far and have a great sidewall
I can attest to the Ridge Grapplers being absolute garbage on gravel and rock lease roads. I have had two sets on two different trucks with the same outcome. Chunks taken out and cuts all over the tire.
Kelly TSR and Goodyear Duratrac started the hybrid trend.
Can you compare the RT Trail to the AT3?
Dang worth the watch! Nearly 17 mins and it was all educational!
Thanks!
The Nitto Ridge Grappler excellent Tire on the highway good off-road no complaints love it definitely going to buy another set❤😊😊😊 40,00 miles
Yes 🙌🏼
I got TOYO RT TRAILS 33X12.50
I have ridge grapplers on my truck I do off road but not a lot and I do have about another 10k-15k left on the tires for street use but as far and tread life goes I am almost toast in the tread department and they have gotten extremely loud at about 30k miles so they do get extremely loud after the first 25k-30k
Thanks for your experience and info
I'm watching from Oregon. I've been running the Falken wildpeak atw3 on my last 2 trucks. Great tire. But I have a Duramax now with a leveling lift. Running 285 75 16. Looking at new tires.