Building A Hardtail Ready For Anything | Tom's Commencal Meta HT AM Bike Check
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2021
- Pinkbike presenter Tom Bradshaw is taking it back to the basics with his new hardtail, a Commencal Meta HT AM. This will be Tom's daily driver until his new full suspension bike turns up, so join Tom for a run down of the spec and details of his new bike.
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i swear this man will transform pinkbike and make it even better than it is now
for sure, he said he is in the friday fail hall of fame. lmao
I rode a hradtail for ever and it definetly teaches important lessons about line choice and form.
And valuable lessons about my ankle flexibility - Tom
@@pinkbike And leg fatigue. - fellow meta ht rider
I’m rlly glad Tom features on the channel
So good to see Tom on the channel, was cheering him on in the PB academy. I also have a commencal meta ht in the same colour 🤟 wicked bike!
As someone who rides a hardtail I love you
Stoked to see some more of Tom at Pinkbike 👍🏼
so stoked to see Tom doing content for PB. dudes attitude is what bikes are all about
So stoked you have the Meta HT!! I have the same. My build is a mullet set up with fox factory 36 160mm up front. Way slacker than it needs to be but I point this bike down enduro and DH trails and it never lets me down. It’s a wild ride but it’s so sick! 👌🙌
Got my first mountain bike 8 months ago during COVID. A Nukeproof Scout hardtail. It teaches mad skills. 8 months in and I’m competitive with the elite men’s class in races and they’re all on dual suspensions. If it’s your first bike get a hardtail. It’s cheaper and will make you a better rider.
I can confirm after riding my buddies bike, this frame is awesome. It started out as a spare parts bike then got its own upgrades. It will make you feel like your on a FS Enduro...until your knees tell you otherwise when your too fast in chunky terrain. Regardless, this is one of the best hardtrail frames with large front travel and can't wait to get my own.
Those upgrades are unreal for a hardtail!! Awesome.
I am building a meta HT AM. Can't wait to start shredding it!
Got the brushed aluminum version which looks sick!
I LOVED THAT VIDEO!
I have the same bike and it's fantastic. Tom's build is sick!
Churrrrr so glad to see Tom on PB
Frame 480$
Fork 1000$
Seatpost 400$
Wheels 1000 only for 1 so 2000 for both
Brakes 540$ for both
Eagle set: 620+555
Total: 5600
i guess he got it like that i love hardtails but thats ebike money for me
@@dystopiaisutopia that’s an aluminium rim though so it’s gonna be way less. Also they’re made by zipp so you’ll pay a premium for that brand name
@@dystopiaisutopia People race DH on carbon rims they're plenty strong. That also doesn't change how much they cost
thats pretty accurate. i am building a bike quite simular to that one atm. i would say its even more expensive. you have to think about the little things too. stuff like spacers, grips, stem, ... that ist a few hundrend bucks very quick. i would say that bike would cost 6k + in EUR to build up by yourself.
Loved my commencal! Phenomenal bikes
Biatch of a bike. I had a long term love affair with an old Meta HT AM a few years back before I sold it to part finance a Pivot Mach 6 carbon. While I adore the new bike, I've still got a yearning for the simplicity of a good hardtail. It taught me so much about riding.
I like the 'meta' commentary re: Levy's video in this review of his Meta, by Commencal. Also, Tom is a treasure, please keep him around.
I totally love my Meta HT AM! Granted, mine is not spec'd nearly as nicely as yours, but it does everything I need it to :) Hardtail pride babayyyy
Yeeees, it goes so good! - Tom
I give this a solid super like!!! META for Life baby!!!
Yes Tom! Rep 'ing for us hardtail riders :) We will have to get you on a British steel frame in the future.
Very good video!
I'm 173cm. I own this frame in size L and I'm happy. Commencal Meta's reach is not very long, so M-size was a bit smaller than I wanted. Keep this in mind when buying. Anyway it's a pretty cool frame.
True. I am about the same size, on a good day 175cm. I got the medium but for sure I should had picked the Large.
@@thomasnielsen3832 Interesting. I'm also 175cm with a medium HT, and it actually feels the same seated as my medium TR with 465 reach. I have no regrets getting the medium.
do you have long torso instead of long legs ?
@@experiencewithmartin972 I'm pretty average. I ride some sort of cross country (it affects my position on the bike a little bit) and my stem is 50mm.
I just ordered the large. The last 2 weeks I've been flopping back and forth between L and M. I'm 179cm I am just worried about the seat tube length, seems long.
My “daily driver” is a clapped out xc hardtail. I’m planning on going full sus this summer, probably a 150-160mm 29er so I can do anything on it from easy rides on my local trails to bike park laps to racing.
Meta HT is such a sick bike, I love mine 🔥🤙
Really sick build bro
Sick build!
Love mine. Got a 160mm fox36 grip 2 and some 2.8 27.5 tires on it with magura brakes. It rips through the woods.
Nice setup, I just added a Banshee Paradox to the quiver in between a Devinci Troy, and a Kona Rove. Just need wheels and an evening to put all the parts together!
Gorgeous bike!
More Tom, More Remy, More Yoann, More Christina. Just been really stoked on the MTB video content being pumped out lately!
More levy
@@connormcguire8439 levy is the goat
Yeah, Hardttail, Meta, Commencal!
Big Love!
My Commencal Meta ht am was my first more expensive bike, and I love it! Literally the only hard tail I would buy after owning a full suspension. I’ve taken it to the bike park, cross country and there is nothing it can’t do. Plus maintaining a hard tail is sooo much less work.
That’s great to here because those are all the reasons I’m buying one
How is this bike for cross country 50+km?
@@xamuth it’s for sure not a dedicated XC bike it does fine on 50km+ but feels more like a trail bike which is good for the descents but can feel slow on long climbs but mine also has a 160mm fox grip 2 so I can’t lock it out.
Gotta love 'em Meta HTs. I'd get me one but it's so hard to come by. They get gobbled up so fast, all stocks are sold out even before the shipping container reaches our shores.
Well, I have put my order in for my HTAM just now:)!
i just bought a norco torrent STEEL! so excited to ride it! i am also waiting for my sight as well haha so this thing is gana be my do it all
Its all I need,the humble hardtail.🤘
I own a Meta HT since 2018 and I have do a XC race with some fun stuff and was funn but not fast. Mine is 27.5 and it is perfect to enjoy the ride but not to go fast in twisty paths or climbing, my Element 26 is still faster ... But I love my meta (XT, a Yari with 160mm and some cross ride wheels, not very expensive)
Tom is the freaking best.
I preordered one. July seems far away at the moment. Hard tail for life
Nice build. Please make some videos of you racing enduros on it! Would be good to see mountain biking go back to the days where we rode hardtails on everything.
Real question is if Tom gets to write it off as a work expense
He may not have paid for it at all. Being a bike journalist has perks.
They are his sponsers look at the description !!!
I went for a similar Banshee Paradox V3 with Lyrik Ultimate RC2, which scored much higher on Hardtail Party. Commencal Meta got a pretty bad score and the Banshee is the reviewers main bike now. Biggest difference is that I am running mullet for safer downhill riding and very large tyres. No Friday fails for me - well, only on ice. Wheels are: 29x3.0 DHR II front with Spank 395+ (i35), and 27.5x2.80 DHR II in the back with Raceface Offset ARC 35 (i35) for more even spoke tension and a stronger rear wheel. I love how plus tyres can roll over everything, no worries. I do daily terrain downhill riding in a natural reserve, so it had to do good downhill and okay climbing. I considered Hans Dampf and Magic Mary, but my previous experience with running 26x2.4 Maxxis DHR II and 26x2.35 Magic Mary, made me think that DHR II is all I need. It rolls so easy and has a great grip to drive you forward. Magic Mary can be a bit squishy which would remove some of the "fun" of climbing.
I use my bike to stay in shape, and even if I have bicycled five days a week for ten years my development has stagnated, so these big tyres are finally giving me something to work against. They are super comfortable and most of the pain I felt from bicycling is gone. The extra weight gives a more constant resistance than the uneven bouncy resistance of a rear suspension, so I prefer it this way. Adding rear suspension to plus sized wheels would be overkill and weigh too much. Rear suspension, at least air suspension, is not as fast as big rubber tyres to alleviate some of these hits to the seat bones and spine. Plus tyres can be a little bouncy, but I prefer the way plus tyres are bouncy compared to the way rear suspension totally kills my pedal effeciancy and will to live.
We love Tom!
Im planning a small build being 5,3. With 170 yari's, 2.6s assegai fr, dhf 2.6 rear, tune hubs with dt swiss rims, trp evo brakes, gx 12 speed drive. Brand x 125 dropper, chromag overture seat, spank vibrocore bars because my arthridic wrists, hosp am 50mm stem. Its a raw frame too. Ive a small clash i built frame up atm n love it.
My respect for Tom went higher when i saw this vid. Riding a hardtail will definitely help you with line choice and a better riding technique. But most importantly, ur ankles and legs will be a lot stronger.
What a nice video and hardtail!
The only thing left out is that a hardtail pivots forward under compression wich a Full Squish doesn't do. Under sag the Headangle is probably 66,5 degrees or something.
Waiting on mine but best way too build skills
Yeah Tom, love the hardtails, Chromag for me, 66deg🤘🤘🤘
I have a one for all hardtail and iam still love that
I just bought a Schwinn from the 90's. Thats a real hardtail.
Yours is freakin awesome.
That is the real deal - Tom
Very nice bike 👌
The man him self!!
More with TOM PLZ ~!
its competitor is the Dartmoor Primal, also with a stroke of 160mm
I've got a Meta HT Am aftet this video...I am looking forward to ride on it on March uppon arrival...yeeee
0:19 closed caption says (anticipatory techno music), thumbs up for anticipatory jams
I really love mine, 2020, 29er, bright orange. Kinda bummed out by this year's color lineup by Commencal, the BRG is the only one I like.
Sizing opinion!!!
I'm also 175 and the medium is really small. Knees hit the bars on switchbacks, generally a lot more unstable than I'm used to.
Luckily got it cheap 2nd hand but have ordered a new frame in large. Even in large it's 5mm less reach than my 2019 giant reign, but it's a hardtail so it will grow in reach when compressed so I'm guessing it will be great.
I thought it was a bit sus that he specced the stem 10mm longer than the default. I'd rather go large and put a smaller stem if it feels too long, because even with 10mm extra on the stem it would have felt small.
always sick to see tom on pinkbike
HARDTAILS ARE DOPE!
All right you just build my dream hardtail right on color too. Maybe some purple ergon grips.
Dream bike
I want this Bike!
The best dropper for a hardtail is the PNW Coast dropper. It has 40mm of air suspension. I have it on my hardtail.
Very Nice bike
👌
👌very nice build, i wouldn't batter an eye lid, if i had the cash.
I live in Australia and bikes are sooo expensive here. I just got a Trek Marlin 5 and it was $700!
Best hardtail ever💪
Mixed Wheels with 650b plus size tires in the back would be interesting as well
Yeah more hardtail vids pleeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz~~~
Nice bike! What cranks are those?
As a fellow HT rider I've been delving into enduros pretty heavily this year. Of all 3 enduros I have attended I have been the only HT rider. The best part is most riders don't see me as a threat but when you place at around 50% of the field people start throwing you a bit of respect for even choosing to ride HT at an enduro event and even encourage me to keep going at it. I would love to see my times if I ever jumped on a full sus though. The rest of the field may have to up their game.
Gosh I want that bike 🤤
I love commencal
I love my meta ht
yo, i have this bike, love it.
0:38 90* head tube angle 👏 👏
YEWWWWWW Hi from New Zealand
I just noticed that you are front and rear 29. How do you like that? From commencal the small and medium come mullet. I have a small since I am a short guy at 5’5” would you recommend I go full 29”
Hey Tom how do you know what is the right or proper length for the dropper post? I'm 5'6 or 171cm , mi bike is a trek roscoe S size
i am still deciding if i should i order this meta ht am or the radon cragger 8.0, wich one would u guys prefer?
0:00 - 0:02 HE HAS SPOKEN TOASTER. ALL HAIL O MIGHTY TOASTER
nice
I'm looking at getting this bike, but I have a question... The head angle says it's 64°. But will that change if I get a longer travel fork? Like a 160mm?
You should try a shock! And avoid rocks and bumps.
Is that Jacob's Ladder in Smithfield?
Will a size medium fit for a 5'6 guy? Seems the reach is on the short side.
I just had a crash, and I come to watch your video s to get my mind off of it.
Whats the size of the fork? 180mm or 160mm travel? Can i put 180mm 27.5 travel for medium size bike? Was it bad ?
Hey man i saw the website in commencal that the meta ht origin brg built bike is it possible it if I buy a 29er wheels and put is there on a stock bike
Put inmediatly a cush core in the back! A must for burly hardtails
Hell yeah cushcore+ on my Commencal MaxMax. That and the Lyrik can change the bike.
When Will this be in stock
Im 5'6 would a medium running 27.5 be ok?
That crash isnt Sydney, that's jacobs ladder in Smithfield, Cairns.
I'm not sure I really "get" a long-travel hardtail, and I say that as someone who rides a short-travel hardtail.
Like there's the "we built it and ride it because we can, it doesn't have to make sense" angle which is totally legit. But from a practical angle, where does it shine relative to a long or short-travel full squish, or a short-travel hardtail? Or a mixed-travel full squish that has more fork than shock?
Well. Riding jumps. Riding steep shit. All that kind of stuff.
@@bananasstuff3344 Short travel is better for jumping though, most DJ/SS bikes are gonna be around 100mm.
If you don’t want 73+ degrees head angle at bottom out you generally need something slack and longer travel fork. A bike like this you aren’t worried about weight or being super xc nimble. The trails you could ride this at speed would destroy a xc build in a single run. Enduro hardtails are a thing, and they are fun. This bike isn’t even all that aggressive compared to some of the stuff out there...
Is this the best hardtail frame of all time??
I am looking for a bike upgrade, and I can not really stretch over $900 USD, so one of the bikes that I am looking at is the Vitus Neculus VRS. I am going to be upgrading from my first true mountain bike, a Giant ATX 3 from last year. There is nothing wrong with my bike now, but I am on the line of what the bike can take with the trails I am riding. If anybody has experience with the Vitus, or any other bike in this price point around $900 USD, Hydraulic brakes, 1x drivetrain, and a tapered headtube with an air fork, please feel free to respond, I am open to other bikes, and I am super stoked to be getting onto a new one this season!
I have the cheaper vitus and it is bloody brilliant. Honestly dont think there are bikes twice that much that are as good. Seriously, great bike. You'll love it.
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