AKA dowel pin (Paßstift in German). For woodworking, my best experience is with bamboo shishkebab skewers or Japanese yakitori sticks because of their precisely machined diametre and their rigidity. Which material do the luthiers use?
I'm using these pins on my 1st two instruments, I find them very useful in keeping the plates centered on the ribs during the different phases of the carving process . I've seen alot of violins without the guide pins, in my personal view. I believe the pins add to the looks. For me they give the instrument something a little more special..and that the marker took the extra time to make sure something in his piece was doing right. To each his own , but I think it gives something more to the instrument.
Fascinating, thank you. My Guarnieri copy has a black dot on the back, slightly offset from the centre and I've been wondering what it was since I got it, new, over 20 years ago!
I am just a fledgling violinist and a hack (guitar) Luthier, but I would prefer no pins, just a precisely glueed seam all around. These days we have body molds, and forms, and fixtures, and all kinds of specialized clamps so a very strong and precisely glued seam can be produced repeatably. ... as long as the Luthier is not rushed through the process!
Alignment violin pin are found on a lot of instruments on back and on top also, you aligned once thed drill and set the pins and after that you are locked on one position you have found and like to have and at the end it is also great for holding fixed position in gluing proces. A lot of Italian makers after Stradivari didn't make them and didn't know what are used for in the past.
If i understand correctly now the pins occured on instruments with the rot iron nail attachment to the neck. Thank you you have taught me important information. Some day I would hope to have a violin with the three nails neck attachment. Im not in the market right now but most greatful your share this information. Happy New Year!😅
Sacrilegious, Violins should not be nailed on all sides. The violin only uses hide glue which can be easily disassembled without damaging the wood, but has super strong adhesive. If the violin is nailed anywhere, especially without heating, the plate will just split. The nailed violin is optional and has its own risks. It will be difficult to remove a violin plate that is nailed on "all four sides", if you can install it, then you should also be able to remove it. He who repairs a violin in this way must be able to better understand the concept of a violin from his violin making teacher, he must better understand the purpose of his actions and their consequences.
I have a violin my grandmother and her parents brought from Udine, Italy. It says Stradivarius on the back so everyone around is afraid to touch it to refurbish it. Is this something you could do? I’ve never heard it, the bow appears to have been horsehair or the like and is shredded. I have good pictures if you would be willing to look at it.
good video, but try to do it with fewer jump cuts, as they can be jarring. I know thats a lot harder, but its worth it for the viewer. Jump cuts give me motion sickness
I did an eBay gamble and bought a cello off eBay. It had the same pins on the back and bottom and I thought they were taking a shortcut. Today I learned.........
Darf ich darauf hinweisen- Sie sprechen „Guanieri“ aus. Es gibt aber nur ein i und das steht am Ende des Wortes Guarneri. So wie sie es aussprechen klingt es wie „Guagneri“ in italienischer Aussprache
Nah, why not? I play so my opinion counts. (sorry all you proffesional important violin players) I do not like the fact that still after 300 years there is the need to make copy's of violins that where made 300 years ago, and we have to mention it so it gets more worth. While what is made now differs a lot from then. Why can we not simply buy an Edgar Russ? Or other violin maker? I had to upgrade my violin to a better model because my playing improved (yes I am actually learning at thing or 2, lol) So I went for the advertisement of a luthier for a beautiful 125 year old bohemian violin. I got there and guess what was printed in the violin??? Yes!! Stradivari, Cremona, 1737, bla bla. Even on the back of the scroll printed big stradivari concert violin. At first I did not want to buy it. If you need to upgrade a violin by putting the name Stradivari in it you are not so certain of your work are you? But it sounded so nice so I bought it anyway. That violin is 125 year old, the luthier could tell by the way it was made, but NO WHERE is the name of the real buider to be found. So that happened 125 year ago. And now in Edgar his violins still is written................. yes ok we know it. So do I want some fake pinn holds in a violin? No, I do not even want the name Stradivarius in it. I want a real Edgar. Sorry all you proffesional violin players. Don't kill me.
I love how cheerful you are! Violin making should be fun, without any arrogance and dust in the eyes) keep it up
Anybody would love to be your apprentice! What an amazing man!
I like the look of the pins.
AKA dowel pin (Paßstift in German). For woodworking, my best experience is with bamboo shishkebab skewers or Japanese yakitori sticks because of their precisely machined diametre and their rigidity. Which material do the luthiers use?
Thanks fir this information
I'm using these pins on my 1st two instruments, I find them very useful in keeping the plates centered on the ribs during the different phases of the carving process .
I've seen alot of violins without the guide pins, in my personal view. I believe the pins add to the looks. For me they give the instrument something a little more special..and that the marker took the extra time to make sure something in his piece was doing right.
To each his own , but I think it gives something more to the instrument.
Fascinating, thank you. My Guarnieri copy has a black dot on the back, slightly offset from the centre and I've been wondering what it was since I got it, new, over 20 years ago!
I am just a fledgling violinist and a hack (guitar) Luthier, but I would prefer no pins, just a precisely glueed seam all around.
These days we have body molds, and forms, and fixtures, and all kinds of specialized clamps so a very strong and precisely glued seam can be produced repeatably.
... as long as the Luthier is not rushed through the process!
Alignment violin pin are found on a lot of instruments on back and on top also, you aligned once thed drill and set the pins and after that you are locked on one position you have found and like to have and at the end it is also great for holding fixed position in gluing proces. A lot of Italian makers after Stradivari didn't make them and didn't know what are used for in the past.
Love love love your videos! Thanks so much for all of these, Edgar!
Maybe try titanium pins - we might all get a big surprise like with the tailpiece.
He probably uses Osmium pins?
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If i understand correctly now the pins occured on instruments with the rot iron nail attachment to the neck. Thank you you have taught me important information. Some day I would hope to have a violin with the three nails neck attachment. Im not in the market right now but most greatful your share this information. Happy New Year!😅
Happy new year ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
I think that pin are important for a reason will take less stress on the glue .
I saw a Violin today that also had pins in each of the four corner blocks next to the inside of the purfling.
Sacrilegious, Violins should not be nailed on all sides. The violin only uses hide glue which can be easily disassembled without damaging the wood, but has super strong adhesive.
If the violin is nailed anywhere, especially without heating, the plate will just split. The nailed violin is optional and has its own risks.
It will be difficult to remove a violin plate that is nailed on "all four sides", if you can install it, then you should also be able to remove it.
He who repairs a violin in this way must be able to better understand the concept of a violin from his violin making teacher, he must better understand the purpose of his actions and their consequences.
It would be difficult to repair a violin nailed like that. The violin plate is super dense and easily breaks/cracks if exposed to force.
Definitely with pins
I have a violin my grandmother and her parents brought from Udine, Italy. It says Stradivarius on the back so everyone around is afraid to touch it to refurbish it. Is this something you could do? I’ve never heard it, the bow appears to have been horsehair or the like and is shredded. I have good pictures if you would be willing to look at it.
I think without pain.sir 🙏
I thought those were registration marks? To aid reassembly. Shows how much I know. Thanks for heads up.
good video, but try to do it with fewer jump cuts, as they can be jarring. I know thats a lot harder, but its worth it for the viewer. Jump cuts give me motion sickness
I did an eBay gamble and bought a cello off eBay. It had the same pins on the back and bottom and I thought they were taking a shortcut. Today I learned.........
All this pinning with violins, I just make sure to pin this channel. That’s enough for me ;)
What's the name of that album/book? I need it! :O
EDGAR SIR, WHAT SHOULD BE THE DISTANCE FROM NUT TO BRIDGE TO ERECT SOUND POST? PLS ANSWER
Darf ich darauf hinweisen- Sie sprechen „Guanieri“ aus. Es gibt aber nur ein i und das steht am Ende des Wortes Guarneri. So wie sie es aussprechen klingt es wie „Guagneri“ in italienischer Aussprache
On cellos, too?
Without pins please, and can it be a Carleen Hutchins instead of a Strad or Guarneri? :)
Finger placement?
I don't think that I would want pins in my instruments ... they attract lightning!!!
Are the pins wood or some kind of metal?
The ones on the back is almost always wood. I’ll let the master answer though.
Yes! Correct! Wood is always what has been and what is used to make these pins!
The type is individual choice of every maker. Some take toothpicks! 😮😅
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Edgar sir, exactly how far should. 1:58 Be erected fron nut bridge area
pins
I have one with a violin face
I have two violins with those pins and neither of them are picked up by my magnet
They could be brass pins
They are guide pins metal used during the making process, after the instrument is glued up the metal guide pins are replaced with wood ebony dows .
Sadly I do not have the right to tell how I like my violin to be. I am 63 and just learning to play it.
Nah, why not? I play so my opinion counts. (sorry all you proffesional important violin players) I do not like the fact that still after 300 years there is the need to make copy's of violins that where made 300 years ago, and we have to mention it so it gets more worth. While what is made now differs a lot from then. Why can we not simply buy an Edgar Russ? Or other violin maker? I had to upgrade my violin to a better model because my playing improved (yes I am actually learning at thing or 2, lol) So I went for the advertisement of a luthier for a beautiful 125 year old bohemian violin. I got there and guess what was printed in the violin??? Yes!! Stradivari, Cremona, 1737, bla bla. Even on the back of the scroll printed big stradivari concert violin. At first I did not want to buy it. If you need to upgrade a violin by putting the name Stradivari in it you are not so certain of your work are you? But it sounded so nice so I bought it anyway. That violin is 125 year old, the luthier could tell by the way it was made, but NO WHERE is the name of the real buider to be found. So that happened 125 year ago. And now in Edgar his violins still is written................. yes ok we know it. So do I want some fake pinn holds in a violin? No, I do not even want the name Stradivarius in it. I want a real Edgar. Sorry all you proffesional violin players. Don't kill me.
@@windwaterandSandra572I agree, I want the actual builders name on the label of my fiddle!