I’m in NE Ohio. Spend more time on road than off, don’t hunt in terribly remote areas, and wanted to pull my boat or a camper. Vehicle of choice was a GMC Sierra Double Cab 5.3 V8 4x4. Only “mods” are a hard tonneau cover and stick sized Cooper Rugged Treks. Gets me everywhere I need to go while carrying everything I want. I think the biggest key to vehicle selection is being honest with your needs and expectations
I've used a full size truck off road for the past 40 years I would never use a under powered vehicle with little towing and hauling capability for taking my family out. Without having to worry about weight. And I plan all my trails where size is no issue.
Sounds like your definition of off-road may be less technical than some. The places I take my truck a full size wouldn’t physically fit. People try. Then they back out the trail when the can’t make it 😅. But to each their own
Yeah my trail boss got pretty pin striped on the jeep trails but sure came in handy winching them cause of its weight. I just occasionally play. It’s a workhorse more than anything.
Power Wagon: because sometimes Rubicons need someone to winch them out of a difficult trail. Also because sometimes you want something with 1 ton axles that can run 37+ tires.
I decided to have both, Tacoma TRD and a PowerWagon. I put a shell on the PW to carry gear and sleep in, so it has a clean look to it vs the urban assault vehicle / Beverly hillbillies look. To each his own.
I would stick to selling tires lol. Ill take my 15 AEV power wagon over all 4x4's. Dodge H.D. 4x4's since 1934. The original 4x4 truck since 1946. See you out on the trail.
I completely agree with you on the power wagon and have one myself, but he does make valid points. I went with a jeep club through the snow and though I aired down I sunk through the snow while my buddy in his 150 stayed on top. Do I agree that a full size is impractical? heck no, you can have my pw when you pry it off the cliff face, but to be fair a jeep will handle the Rubicon, I'd be REALLY surprised if you could get a pw down even the easiest portions of it. See you on the trail fellow pw buddy!
Got a 2013 f150 fx4 crewcab dents and scratches from going down jeep trails. People are always surprised to see me at the end of the trail. Spend the summer every year camping in the mountains a good percentage of that in my truck sleeping in the camper shell. My kid and dog are growing so just bought a new super duty to fit us and the prospecting, camping, fishing backpacking, toys, fridge solar panels in. We stay in the backcountry for weeks at a time several hours from the nearest walmart so nothing less than a crew cab full size will work for us. If you remove the sway bar and add about 1500 lbs of gear and lower tire pressure off road the superduty really rides pretty good. If you ride around with no weight and max psi like most folks i see it rides horrible heavy duty trucks are made for weight so adjust psi accordingly. I run between 20 and 30 psi depending on the trail with zero trouble. Obviously on highway air back up to about 40 and if towing heavy about 65.
I run a full size trail boss, upgraded suspension, tires, wheels air down to about 16-20, has a bed rack, popup tent, bunch of gear, portable winch with front hitch receiver, but I try to avoid narrow trails. This is a family truck. I'm debating if it's even worth it to get a Jeep Gladiator, not really excited about spending 50-60k on that excluding mods, which is what I paid for my full size --side note: people are also surprised when they see me ride off with about 8K in damages to my truck on a jeep trail
I have a 2016 F150 4X Sport. I got it to haul stuff but not super heavy. So far it hauls a flatbed trailer totaling 8000 lbs with no issues. I did get it stuck in 10 inches of snow one time. It has new General Grabber ATX tires but some day I would like to get a 2.5 level and a taller tire. Maybe 33". Really like your videos. Would like to see more pickup's out on the trail
05 ford f150 XLT ext. cab 4x4. 6" lift, 35' snow and mud hybrid tires with 4.56 gearing, and Torsen Geared limited slip diffs front and back and upgraded brake pads and rotors. I have it set up for Overlanding and occasional towing. Works great.
The extinction of the compact truck is causing trails throughout the west become hiking or OHV trails only. Sad, too. My 09 Tacoma is too wide for most of the trails I once did with ease in my older compact trucks. Small trucks with good 4x4 capability can go anywhere. Nice to see someone recognizing that the size of truck should be keyed to intended use ... rare wisdom.
We have a 2006 Nissan Titan 4x4 and we turned it into a overlanding truck. It has a 285/70R/17 and new Bilstein 5100 shocks and struts. We love our truck.
I’ve got a 92 pickup and a 98 4 runner and I would say that I love them but I’ve only ever worked on them and now I’ve owned them for 6 months lmao. Lookin forward to seeing how they do out on the trails this summer tho
Which are you going to take on the trails first? Also if you want to be super lazy, there's tents that go over the bed of your truck. Best money I spent on a tent ever!
@@ItsMeGiga i was hoping it would be the pickup because ive got a sweet flatbed vamper setup that i built for my last truck that i took all over eastern canada but the pickup still needs a lot of work so itll probably be the 4 runner. its just needs some suspension work
Always wanted a power wagon, pretty awesome. But they are very heavy and like you said are quite large and uncomfortable. Then Jeep announced the gladiator and I saw it as a smaller version of the power wagon that was still capable enough to handle my truck needs. Always wanted a Wrangler Rubicon but honestly it couldn’t fit my needs. Love the gladiator, can haul 4 other people, my rifles, targets, chairs, tables, ez up, cooler, and grill to my BLM shooting areas. Also keeps my RTT below the roof line and still carried enough food and water for a 10 day overland trip through Utah. Only complaint is that they went too truck with it and should have went more Jeep. Like a 4.5’ bed that is connected hummer style to the cab. That and a hybrid hardtop/soft top would be amazing where you have 4 freedom panels that can accept a roll back top.
2020 ZR2 Bison, mostly weekend warrior trails, drifting and a little bit of crawling, hope to do more intricate trails after bigger tires and steel drive shaft.
Currently own a 2011 Chevy 1500 on a 2” level with heavy duty leafs on 295/70/17 duratracs. It’s daily driven but I also tow and bomb quad trails with it. Just upgraded my front and rear bumpers to RC steel bumpers and threw a RC 12K lbs winch up in the front bumper. Wish I could post pics because people really don’t believe me when I say it bombs quad trails.
Have had two Power Wagons. Just sold my ‘17. Have been pretty bulletproof overall. But after owning two PW’s since 2014, there are way too many compromises to go that route with today’s fuel and insurance costs.
I have had big trucks like dodge ram 2500 to extra small datsun single cab and in between and ibeen a off roader since I was 15 years old I'm 44 now and my favorite for off roading and most towing I do is my 2020 jeep gladiator rubicon
My 86 s10 did great in a swampy mud bog trail ride I had half tread mud tires peg leg junky 2.8 and I was the only truck other than my buddy's dakaota that didn't get stuck out of 30 trucks. I had 31s buddy had 33 everyone else had 35s and 38s on silverados f150s toyotas. Later put 31 new mud tires and a better 2.8 never had to lock in 4wd except to pull someone out had it buried to the doors still crawling.
Second gen 4 door long bed Tacoma 4X4. Great in the desert at speed, not so much in tight areas. Long wheel base is great for going fast but likes to high side when trying technical stuff.
Damn also got a second gen and with long bed didn't realize how shit they are at offroad cuz of its longer wheelbase also tried a ram 2500 and even longer wheel base, lol I should've kept my 3rd gen 4runner god damn it
in the most extreme cases, the most capable 4x4s are almost always full-size trucks.. so you know, there's that. The occasional jeep (on full size truck axles) slips through, but by and large the "super 4x4" class of truck is a full size.
Ehhh trucks are typically heavier and larger which makes them more prone to getting stuck in the mud and terrain. The smaller offroad vehicles also have better breakover angles that you dont need higher clearance to achieve like you would need in bigger trucks. Trucks might be good for overlanding as they have more storage , than yeah. I mean side by sides are more effective due to their small sizes as well
New trucks are too expensive to take off road. 90s tacoma/4runner is no trailer hauler, but it will go places in 2wd that bigger trucks cant fit in 4wd. Is it really that good of an idea to go off road in a vehicle that cost as much as a house?
You got it wrong pal... If you need to tow and haul you are better off witg tge small single cab rearwheel drive automatique. A single cab 6.5ft bed f150 will tow heavier trailers than the same f150 with the crew cab and 8ft bed.
20" and above rims with low profile tires, 4-doors, long beds, anything with CV axles / struts in the front, open-diffs, no winch, no recovery gear - please stay off the trails.
Hey, my 03 gmc has ifs in the front and it's taken me on many trails. The pw hasn't seen as much action but you can do a LOT with a vehicle with cv axles. It's all about being smart on the trail. Though I agree with the 20" rims, they're going to get damaged. More rubber than rim is the goal.
@@chrisgonzales1615 lol my bad I’m a college kid I’m thinking of xjs and old yjs. The new ones are crazy expensive. I saw a gladiator rubicon for 80,000 at a dealer here in Ontario
@@ksb2112 yeah, just personal preference. I think they’re kinda boring. I guess I’ve seen too many of them. Id rather a new bronco or taco over a gladiator or rubicon
I’m in NE Ohio. Spend more time on road than off, don’t hunt in terribly remote areas, and wanted to pull my boat or a camper.
Vehicle of choice was a GMC Sierra Double Cab 5.3 V8 4x4. Only “mods” are a hard tonneau cover and stick sized Cooper Rugged Treks. Gets me everywhere I need to go while carrying everything I want. I think the biggest key to vehicle selection is being honest with your needs and expectations
I've used a full size truck off road for the past 40 years I would never use a under powered vehicle with little towing and hauling capability for taking my family out. Without having to worry about weight. And I plan all my trails where size is no issue.
Sounds like your definition of off-road may be less technical than some. The places I take my truck a full size wouldn’t physically fit. People try. Then they back out the trail when the can’t make it 😅. But to each their own
Full size truck with atv or dirt bike will get you anywhere you wanna go and have a big comfortable base camp with all your gear.
Yeah my trail boss got pretty pin striped on the jeep trails but sure came in handy winching them cause of its weight. I just occasionally play. It’s a workhorse more than anything.
i converted my trailboss into an overlanding rig, but I don't go out rock climbing or tackling those crazy narrow "jeep" trails
@@jdbdidoek yeah I’m trying to figure out a fuel tank plate solution. You come up with anything?
Power Wagon: because sometimes Rubicons need someone to winch them out of a difficult trail. Also because sometimes you want something with 1 ton axles that can run 37+ tires.
I'll take my Excursion all day long. Best 4x4. Can't beat a super duty. Save everyone and have room for everything. Reliable af
That's one thing about the HDs. They make great anchors to get other vehicles out of tight spots.
7.3?
I decided to have both, Tacoma TRD and a PowerWagon. I put a shell on the PW to carry gear and sleep in, so it has a clean look to it vs the urban assault vehicle / Beverly hillbillies look. To each his own.
I would stick to selling tires lol. Ill take my 15 AEV power wagon over all 4x4's. Dodge H.D. 4x4's since 1934. The original 4x4 truck since 1946. See you out on the trail.
I completely agree with you on the power wagon and have one myself, but he does make valid points. I went with a jeep club through the snow and though I aired down I sunk through the snow while my buddy in his 150 stayed on top. Do I agree that a full size is impractical? heck no, you can have my pw when you pry it off the cliff face, but to be fair a jeep will handle the Rubicon, I'd be REALLY surprised if you could get a pw down even the easiest portions of it. See you on the trail fellow pw buddy!
Got a 2013 f150 fx4 crewcab dents and scratches from going down jeep trails. People are always surprised to see me at the end of the trail. Spend the summer every year camping in the mountains a good percentage of that in my truck sleeping in the camper shell. My kid and dog are growing so just bought a new super duty to fit us and the prospecting, camping, fishing backpacking, toys, fridge solar panels in. We stay in the backcountry for weeks at a time several hours from the nearest walmart so nothing less than a crew cab full size will work for us. If you remove the sway bar and add about 1500 lbs of gear and lower tire pressure off road the superduty really rides pretty good. If you ride around with no weight and max psi like most folks i see it rides horrible heavy duty trucks are made for weight so adjust psi accordingly. I run between 20 and 30 psi depending on the trail with zero trouble. Obviously on highway air back up to about 40 and if towing heavy about 65.
I run a full size trail boss, upgraded suspension, tires, wheels air down to about 16-20, has a bed rack, popup tent, bunch of gear, portable winch with front hitch receiver, but I try to avoid narrow trails. This is a family truck. I'm debating if it's even worth it to get a Jeep Gladiator, not really excited about spending 50-60k on that excluding mods, which is what I paid for my full size --side note: people are also surprised when they see me ride off with about 8K in damages to my truck on a jeep trail
Love my 2021 Titan Pro4X! Fits all my needs for Texas feral hog hunting in the piney woods of East Texas.
I’ve got a Tacoma 3rd Gen. I love it.
I have a 2016 F150 4X Sport. I got it to haul stuff but not super heavy. So far it hauls a flatbed trailer totaling 8000 lbs with no issues. I did get it stuck in 10 inches of snow one time. It has new General Grabber ATX tires but some day I would like to get a 2.5 level and a taller tire. Maybe 33". Really like your videos. Would like to see more pickup's out on the trail
05 ford f150 XLT ext. cab 4x4. 6" lift, 35' snow and mud hybrid tires with 4.56 gearing, and Torsen Geared limited slip diffs front and back and upgraded brake pads and rotors. I have it set up for Overlanding and occasional towing. Works great.
The extinction of the compact truck is causing trails throughout the west become hiking or OHV trails only. Sad, too. My 09 Tacoma is too wide for most of the trails I once did with ease in my older compact trucks. Small trucks with good 4x4 capability can go anywhere. Nice to see someone recognizing that the size of truck should be keyed to intended use ... rare wisdom.
My swb 93 k1500 has a wheelbase only slightly larger then that of a jeep. Does great
We have a 2006 Nissan Titan 4x4 and we turned it into a overlanding truck. It has a 285/70R/17 and new Bilstein 5100 shocks and struts. We love our truck.
We need to see some pictures in our gallery sometime! www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/add-wheel-offset
@@TrailBuilt I have Facebook. I can send pictures on there.
I’ve got a 92 pickup and a 98 4 runner and I would say that I love them but I’ve only ever worked on them and now I’ve owned them for 6 months lmao. Lookin forward to seeing how they do out on the trails this summer tho
Which are you going to take on the trails first? Also if you want to be super lazy, there's tents that go over the bed of your truck. Best money I spent on a tent ever!
@@ItsMeGiga i was hoping it would be the pickup because ive got a sweet flatbed vamper setup that i built for my last truck that i took all over eastern canada but the pickup still needs a lot of work so itll probably be the 4 runner. its just needs some suspension work
I love my 08 f150. Good aftermarket for it and seen a few people SAS them 🤷🏼♂️ interesting and unique.
Always wanted a power wagon, pretty awesome. But they are very heavy and like you said are quite large and uncomfortable. Then Jeep announced the gladiator and I saw it as a smaller version of the power wagon that was still capable enough to handle my truck needs.
Always wanted a Wrangler Rubicon but honestly it couldn’t fit my needs. Love the gladiator, can haul 4 other people, my rifles, targets, chairs, tables, ez up, cooler, and grill to my BLM shooting areas. Also keeps my RTT below the roof line and still carried enough food and water for a 10 day overland trip through Utah.
Only complaint is that they went too truck with it and should have went more Jeep. Like a 4.5’ bed that is connected hummer style to the cab. That and a hybrid hardtop/soft top would be amazing where you have 4 freedom panels that can accept a roll back top.
2020 ZR2 Bison, mostly weekend warrior trails, drifting and a little bit of crawling, hope to do more intricate trails after bigger tires and steel drive shaft.
Same truck built for overlanding. Baby Duramax.
2020 ZR2 Bison with the baby Duramax. Overlanding, off-roading, hunt’n fish’n , daily driver, damn near everything!
If it were my daily, I’d grab the babymax, but I like the skinny pedal too much, so I only drive it on the weekends. Lol
Currently own a 2011 Chevy 1500 on a 2” level with heavy duty leafs on 295/70/17 duratracs. It’s daily driven but I also tow and bomb quad trails with it. Just upgraded my front and rear bumpers to RC steel bumpers and threw a RC 12K lbs winch up in the front bumper. Wish I could post pics because people really don’t believe me when I say it bombs quad trails.
"whatever that Honda thing is.." LOOOOL XD
Get a frontier V6 or CrossTrek 2.4
That raptor though 😂
Have had two Power Wagons. Just sold my ‘17. Have been pretty bulletproof overall. But after owning two PW’s since 2014, there are way too many compromises to go that route with today’s fuel and insurance costs.
I have had big trucks like dodge ram 2500 to extra small datsun single cab and in between and ibeen a off roader since I was 15 years old I'm 44 now and my favorite for off roading and most towing I do is my 2020 jeep gladiator rubicon
My 86 s10 did great in a swampy mud bog trail ride I had half tread mud tires peg leg junky 2.8 and I was the only truck other than my buddy's dakaota that didn't get stuck out of 30 trucks. I had 31s buddy had 33 everyone else had 35s and 38s on silverados f150s toyotas. Later put 31 new mud tires and a better 2.8 never had to lock in 4wd except to pull someone out had it buried to the doors still crawling.
Second gen 4 door long bed Tacoma 4X4. Great in the desert at speed, not so much in tight areas. Long wheel base is great for going fast but likes to high side when trying technical stuff.
Damn also got a second gen and with long bed didn't realize how shit they are at offroad cuz of its longer wheelbase also tried a ram 2500 and even longer wheel base, lol I should've kept my 3rd gen 4runner god damn it
also, a Power Wagon can do 99.99% of what a Rubicon can do, and use less fuel doing it.
2019 F-250, 6.7, FX4 Platinum, tow my RV.
2022 Ram 2500 4x4 no towing, no off-road
Them Dirtnation boys getting it done 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Just if mid sized trucks had like 1300lb payload upgrade options. There’s plenty of room for a larger engine and heavier duty axles
3/4 ton duramax, weekend toy.
in the most extreme cases, the most capable 4x4s are almost always full-size trucks.. so you know, there's that. The occasional jeep (on full size truck axles) slips through, but by and large the "super 4x4" class of truck is a full size.
Ehhh trucks are typically heavier and larger which makes them more prone to getting stuck in the mud and terrain. The smaller offroad vehicles also have better breakover angles that you dont need higher clearance to achieve like you would need in bigger trucks. Trucks might be good for overlanding as they have more storage , than yeah. I mean side by sides are more effective due to their small sizes as well
New trucks are too expensive to take off road. 90s tacoma/4runner is no trailer hauler, but it will go places in 2wd that bigger trucks cant fit in 4wd. Is it really that good of an idea to go off road in a vehicle that cost as much as a house?
My '10 Silverado 1500 is a beast on the trails! I struggle with narrow trails but she can make it 😎
I love the Ford Maverick! Don’t count it out
You got it wrong pal...
If you need to tow and haul you are better off witg tge small single cab rearwheel drive automatique. A single cab 6.5ft bed f150 will tow heavier trailers than the same f150 with the crew cab and 8ft bed.
what video is 1:13 from
2:08 🤣🤣🤣
Guessing this channel died. Wonder if the company went under
Never died, just working on a new plan now that Josh is working for Kenda!
Nah.....
20" and above rims with low profile tires, 4-doors, long beds, anything with CV axles / struts in the front, open-diffs, no winch, no recovery gear - please stay off the trails.
Hey, my 03 gmc has ifs in the front and it's taken me on many trails. The pw hasn't seen as much action but you can do a LOT with a vehicle with cv axles. It's all about being smart on the trail. Though I agree with the 20" rims, they're going to get damaged. More rubber than rim is the goal.
Oh, mexicans.
If you’re wanting to off road go with the Jeep
Basically yep. Cheap and crazy capable Not the best looking tho
@@Jacobbunt Looks? Really?
Cheap? My Jeep was $62,000 lol I don’t know what you’re talking about cheap
@@chrisgonzales1615 lol my bad I’m a college kid I’m thinking of xjs and old yjs. The new ones are crazy expensive. I saw a gladiator rubicon for 80,000 at a dealer here in Ontario
@@ksb2112 yeah, just personal preference. I think they’re kinda boring. I guess I’ve seen too many of them. Id rather a new bronco or taco over a gladiator or rubicon