I could not agree more with the many that have watched this video and still cant adjust their machine correctly I believe a more realistic video should be an out of alignment laser machine being aligned in detail, that's a video that would help more
Do you or anyone know in Los Angeles, CA ,who can fix alignment for Full Spectrum Laser ? I did try myself and I mesh up the laser, it's a pain and headache. Please advise, thank you.
I am completely sold on using this reverse alignment process. I agree with everything except for adjusting mirror 1. All tubes have a glass front. I let the laser pointer bounce off that glass and adjust 1 by matching the outgoing beam with the return beam on mirror 2.
I bought one of these around the time this video came out 3 years ago. It aligned my 60w laser better than I ever could the old way. Here I am looking at it again as i just upgraded to a monster 150w co2 laser and the proper alignment tool ordered. Don't buy the knock off poor quality OMTech version, get this one. It's worth it and if you have an issue with it the customer service is as good as you would expect from a company where the owner himself is instructing on how to use it.
I purchased one of these units a few years ago and have only recently tried to use it, However when I noticed when I rotate the always on laser the red dot moves from side to side, it does not appear to be collimated cant it be adjusted. Thanks ALan
Did you figure out why? This side to side motion is happening with mine and I can't figure why, it's fine half way then goes off centre as it goes farther away
it is ok to move only the front or the back of the tube to make the tube alignment right. the tube does not need to be perfectly level the the machine or the earth.
Yo también pienso lo mismo, ya que he cambiado el tubo de mi máquina y obviamente no queda super alineado. Si lo intento, pero debe de variar un poco. De ser así, como podría alinear bien el punto rojo si el tubo está ligeramente inclinado? Yo intenté ya hacer lo mismo del video, pero saliendo del tubo no de la boquilla (3er espejo) y si ayudó pero me falta perfeccionar la herramienta.
Yo también pienso lo mismo, ya que he cambiado el tubo de mi máquina y obviamente no queda super alineado. Si lo intento, pero debe de variar un poco. De ser así, como podría alinear bien el punto rojo si el tubo está ligeramente inclinado? Yo intenté ya hacer lo mismo del video, pero saliendo del tubo no de la boquilla (3er espejo) y si ayudó pero me falta perfeccionar la herramienta.
I bought your lenses (a set) and mirrors and of course your reverse alignment tool. I've used it a couple times only to realize that depending on how it's inserted into the head it either gives me good results (meaning it is aligned to mirror 2 because that's where I placed it before), or the next time it's inserted it way off. So far off that it's off the mirror... Maybe I'm missing something here? The tool seems to have a loose fit in the tube and of course it's locked down with a thumb screw. Why the inconsistency due to removal of the tool and then reinsertion? I have noted that there's a flat machined into the body of the tool but no mention of whether or not it's functional regarding the alignment procedure. I did a 'perfect' alignment of mirrors 2 and 3 (no movement) only to find out that if I disturb the reverse alignment tool it throws everything off.
I am having the same issue. The laser is no aligned the the center of the tool. Its at an angle, try rotating the tool and you will see its at different points.
Wow, that is some really crappy quality. He claims the alignment of the red beam to tool is perfectly 90 deg out to 20 feet. Obviously many of them are nowhere close. I'd send it back for a refund.
I'm in the same boat... I drove myself absolutely insane only to realize that the alignment tool isn't accurate. Good thing I already lost all my hair :/
It seems to me that you have a perfectly aligned machine, but you are not showing HOW to align anything. Make the laser completely unaligned and show HOW to align it please.
I couldn't agree more. I bought this and still don't have a good idea of how to use it properly. Absolutely no instructions or guidance come with the tool.
Same here. Just purchased one and the instructions are very vague. For how expensive these “alignment tools” are the least this person could do is make a COMPLETE video on how to align an UNALIGNED laser.
Same...I cannot get my laser to align at all using this video. As a matter of fact, I think it made it worse. A more in-depth video showing a start to finish would be great.
@@mikaspack6748 if you place tape before mirror 3 and then rotate the tool 360⁰ once in place but with the fixing screw still loose does the laser dot remain in a fixed spot or move around in a circle a bit?
Interesting way of approaching it, but I do not agree when you said the laser tube doesn't need to be plumb. It absolutely has to or else it'll cause problems all along the system from mirror 1 through mirror 3.
Could you elaborate on how you would correct the alignment to mirror 2 if it travels roughly 1-2mm from the farthest point left to the farthest point right? Getting it to hit dead center on either side is straight forward, but moving the angle doesn't seem to do much to correct it
Hi, my name is frank I was wondering if you can help me with my problem I replaced all the mirrors and I’m having a problem. Here’s a video maybe you can hel 0:17
U did not show any adjustment. Do u adjust the source mirror (mirror 3) or the target mirror (mirror 2), if the red dot is not in the center of the target mirror (mirror 2)? Does the nut adjustment follow the same direction or reverse direction?
the primary purpose for the reverse tool is to properly adjust mirror 3. after adjusting mirror 3 it may be necessary to move mirror 2 so the red dot hits it in the center.
OMG i am struggling soo hard with the alignment ... Thats a perfect idea thanks a lot i will design and 3d print a adapter for a laser diod and do the same 😍❤️❤️
callysadventures6315, How did that work for you? How did you get the red beam perfectly 90 deg out of the adapter? I suspect the actual pointer beam is not true to the pointer housing.
It worked actually quite well but i didn't use a Laserpointer i used just a laser diode in its raw form ... If you roll your adapter on the fror and the laser beam at the wall stays at the same place it is fine
Just purchased this. So mirror 3 (laser head) is suppose to have the mirror all the way down on all 3 screws and not touch it ? I’m having some issues if I touch mirror 3 screws and mirror 2 screws, mirror 1 drifts up and down no matter the adjustment I make on mirror 2.
Perfect alignment not just helps in better quality but cuts down running costs and times.. I used get laser cutting outsourced, they always had slower runs, and still not so good cuts... Ever since i have owned a laser, for the same 80w i run it 2 times faster than others
What about a manual to show us the different steps of the process? I understand the process from lense 3 to lense 1, but then you lost me. You fit a piece of tape over lense 3 and marked it with a pen and then remove the alignment tool. What do you align now, the CO2 laser untill it hit the red spot on mirror 3?
@@americanphotonics9120 Again, people are asking for you to demonstrate how to align a misaligned unit with your product, you then point to another video that has zero physical instruction on how to properly align a Co2 laser with this tool. Showing something on a whiteboard does not properly translate to seeing how it is done on the machine. Point us to a video of you or your company showing us detailed instructions on how to install and align the machine with your product like you just opened the Chinese crate and going through the setup intricacies of the machine. This is what the masses are asking for!!!
Does anyone have a link to a better video that actually tells you what to do when it does not align? I have gone through all of the batteries included and still don't have mirror 3 to 2 aligned. So far off that when I move laserhead left to right the beam goes off the mirror completely. Every time I try to dial it in, it goes off the other direction even with the smallest of corrections. This video is no help whatsoever and now my laser is so misaligned I can't use it.
These laser assist only help you align with mirror 2. If you still need help with this lmk. I miss align mine as well and finally got it to align; got burn 3 time in the process to show you how misaligned it was. Please wear Eye Protection at all time!
I see that you're 'jiggling' (5:11)your tool to capture what appears to be the flat on the tool. If the tool is 'calibrated' at the factory in relation to the flat I would think it would behoove you to tell that to your customers...
I thought this would really speed up my alignment, but man, it's been a bit frustrating because you don't actually show how to do it. You're assuming that the viewer knows 90% of what you're talking about. I wouldn't have purchased this if I did. Do you have a better video or document other than the 1 in x 1 in piece of paper in 3 pt font that was in the package?
hi regarding beam alignment try this don't work try like for 2 days all setting don't work. did it the old way fixed it like in 2 hours it's now spot-on I just asked for a refund 🤬+ i see a lot of questions and no answers from to months ago
Juan, You contacted us on Monday, and we replied your email, but we didn't hear back from you. You contacted us again today through chat, which we replied, but we didn't hear from you. Then we sent you an email, trying to understand the issue that you're facing, so we can walk you through or process a refund. We want to help! Please, contact us at (941) 752-5811, so we can help you on this. Our official communication channels are by phone or email. We always reply to 100% of the contacts made. Thank you, American Photonics.
@@americanphotonics9120 you want to help? Start by making a better video or providing better instructions with the item. Great concept; very poor execution.
I like this company and the lens I bought from them. Looks like I'll be sending them more money. Only obstacle is the wife... Looks like back massages and Framboise will be needed.
What a joke! Some people should not make videos. Perfect example here. This product is a failure waiting to happen and should provide heaps of frustration..... wow
I could not agree more with the many that have watched this video and still cant adjust their machine correctly I believe a more realistic video should be an out of alignment laser machine being aligned in detail, that's a video that would help more
I had the same idea of using a reverse laser for the alignment. I'm glad to see an engineer thought same first.
Do you or anyone know in Los Angeles, CA ,who can fix alignment for Full Spectrum Laser ? I did try myself and I mesh up the laser, it's a pain and headache. Please advise, thank you.
I am completely sold on using this reverse alignment process. I agree with everything except for adjusting mirror 1. All tubes have a glass front. I let the laser pointer bounce off that glass and adjust 1 by matching the outgoing beam with the return beam on mirror 2.
I bought one of these around the time this video came out 3 years ago. It aligned my 60w laser better than I ever could the old way. Here I am looking at it again as i just upgraded to a monster 150w co2 laser and the proper alignment tool ordered. Don't buy the knock off poor quality OMTech version, get this one. It's worth it and if you have an issue with it the customer service is as good as you would expect from a company where the owner himself is instructing on how to use it.
I purchased one of these units a few years ago and have only recently tried to use it, However when I noticed when I rotate the always on laser the red dot moves from side to side, it does not appear to be collimated cant it be adjusted. Thanks ALan
Did you figure out why? This side to side motion is happening with mine and I can't figure why, it's fine half way then goes off centre as it goes farther away
Perfect. I didn't get how you were supposed to align laser 1. This totally makes sense now. Thanks!
how do i adjust mirror 3, red dot is too high and no more adjust left
Absolute genius!!!
Where's the link to the alignment tool?
what if the laser tube itself is not alligned well and is tilted up/down or left/right.. would this tool work?
it is ok to move only the front or the back of the tube to make the tube alignment right. the tube does not need to be perfectly level the the machine or the earth.
Yo también pienso lo mismo, ya que he cambiado el tubo de mi máquina y obviamente no queda super alineado. Si lo intento, pero debe de variar un poco. De ser así, como podría alinear bien el punto rojo si el tubo está ligeramente inclinado?
Yo intenté ya hacer lo mismo del video, pero saliendo del tubo no de la boquilla (3er espejo) y si ayudó pero me falta perfeccionar la herramienta.
Yo también pienso lo mismo, ya que he cambiado el tubo de mi máquina y obviamente no queda super alineado. Si lo intento, pero debe de variar un poco. De ser así, como podría alinear bien el punto rojo si el tubo está ligeramente inclinado?
Yo intenté ya hacer lo mismo del video, pero saliendo del tubo no de la boquilla (3er espejo) y si ayudó pero me falta perfeccionar la herramienta.
I bought your lenses (a set) and mirrors and of course your reverse alignment tool. I've used it a couple times only to realize that depending on how it's inserted into the head it either gives me good results (meaning it is aligned to mirror 2 because that's where I placed it before), or the next time it's inserted it way off. So far off that it's off the mirror...
Maybe I'm missing something here? The tool seems to have a loose fit in the tube and of course it's locked down with a thumb screw.
Why the inconsistency due to removal of the tool and then reinsertion? I have noted that there's a flat machined into the body of the tool but no mention of whether or not it's functional regarding the alignment procedure.
I did a 'perfect' alignment of mirrors 2 and 3 (no movement) only to find out that if I disturb the reverse alignment tool it throws everything off.
so far i am having similar issues
I am having the same issue. The laser is no aligned the the center of the tool. Its at an angle, try rotating the tool and you will see its at different points.
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Wow, that is some really crappy quality. He claims the alignment of the red beam to tool is perfectly 90 deg out to 20 feet. Obviously many of them are nowhere close. I'd send it back for a refund.
I'm in the same boat... I drove myself absolutely insane only to realize that the alignment tool isn't accurate. Good thing I already lost all my hair :/
It seems to me that you have a perfectly aligned machine, but you are not showing HOW to align anything. Make the laser completely unaligned and show HOW to align it please.
I couldn't agree more. I bought this and still don't have a good idea of how to use it properly. Absolutely no instructions or guidance come with the tool.
Same here. Just purchased one and the instructions are very vague. For how expensive these “alignment tools” are the least this person could do is make a COMPLETE video on how to align an UNALIGNED laser.
Same...I cannot get my laser to align at all using this video. As a matter of fact, I think it made it worse. A more in-depth video showing a start to finish would be great.
@@mikaspack6748 if you place tape before mirror 3 and then rotate the tool 360⁰ once in place but with the fixing screw still loose does the laser dot remain in a fixed spot or move around in a circle a bit?
@@edgardoguzman2858 Totally agree. Absolutely useless.
Interesting way of approaching it, but I do not agree when you said the laser tube doesn't need to be plumb. It absolutely has to or else it'll cause problems all along the system from mirror 1 through mirror 3.
this is why i am considering diode laser instead, hate even the thought of alignment.
Diode lasers are weak sauce compared to even a k40 co2 laser. Co2 laser can cut 5 to 10x faster.
Could you elaborate on how you would correct the alignment to mirror 2 if it travels roughly 1-2mm from the farthest point left to the farthest point right? Getting it to hit dead center on either side is straight forward, but moving the angle doesn't seem to do much to correct it
How often do I need to replace mirror 1 ,2 and 3 for better performance
Hi, my name is frank I was wondering if you can help me with my problem I replaced all the mirrors and I’m having a problem. Here’s a video maybe you can hel 0:17
U did not show any adjustment. Do u adjust the source mirror (mirror 3) or the target mirror (mirror 2), if the red dot is not in the center of the target mirror (mirror 2)? Does the nut adjustment follow the same direction or reverse direction?
the primary purpose for the reverse tool is to properly adjust mirror 3. after adjusting mirror 3 it may be necessary to move mirror 2 so the red dot hits it in the center.
@@americanphotonics9120 How about you show people how to align a misaligned unit with your product, that is what people are asking for!!!!!!!!!
OMG i am struggling soo hard with the alignment ... Thats a perfect idea thanks a lot i will design and 3d print a adapter for a laser diod and do the same 😍❤️❤️
callysadventures6315,
How did that work for you?
How did you get the red beam perfectly 90 deg out of the adapter?
I suspect the actual pointer beam is not true to the pointer housing.
It worked actually quite well but i didn't use a Laserpointer i used just a laser diode in its raw form ... If you roll your adapter on the fror and the laser beam at the wall stays at the same place it is fine
Just purchased this. So mirror 3 (laser head) is suppose to have the mirror all the way down on all 3 screws and not touch it ? I’m having some issues if I touch mirror 3 screws and mirror 2 screws, mirror 1 drifts up and down no matter the adjustment I make on mirror 2.
Perfect alignment not just helps in better quality but cuts down running costs and times.. I used get laser cutting outsourced, they always had slower runs, and still not so good cuts... Ever since i have owned a laser, for the same 80w i run it 2 times faster than others
Makes perfect sense. I bought one yesterday.
What about a manual to show us the different steps of the process? I understand the process from lense 3 to lense 1, but then you lost me. You fit a piece of tape over lense 3 and marked it with a pen and then remove the alignment tool. What do you align now, the CO2 laser untill it hit the red spot on mirror 3?
maybe this will help. it a different video i made on mirror alignment. ruclips.net/video/6iQvxw20CKU/видео.html&t
@@americanphotonics9120 Again, people are asking for you to demonstrate how to align a misaligned unit with your product, you then point to another video that has zero physical instruction on how to properly align a Co2 laser with this tool. Showing something on a whiteboard does not properly translate to seeing how it is done on the machine.
Point us to a video of you or your company showing us detailed instructions on how to install and align the machine with your product like you just opened the Chinese crate and going through the setup intricacies of the machine. This is what the masses are asking for!!!
i did order one. Will see how good it is.
Where did you get your machine? I want one.
Please I need this laser beam alignment tool for my Chinese 6040 machine in Nigeria, how can I get one?
curious the machine in this video. what is it can you show more of it. it sure looks "roomy/Spacious". BTW thanks for the VID up.
I have one and it works fine except that it eats batteries! Offering an adapter to plug in a power adapter would make this so much more useful.
Does anyone have a link to a better video that actually tells you what to do when it does not align? I have gone through all of the batteries included and still don't have mirror 3 to 2 aligned. So far off that when I move laserhead left to right the beam goes off the mirror completely. Every time I try to dial it in, it goes off the other direction even with the smallest of corrections. This video is no help whatsoever and now my laser is so misaligned I can't use it.
These laser assist only help you align with mirror 2. If you still need help with this lmk. I miss align mine as well and finally got it to align; got burn 3 time in the process to show you how misaligned it was. Please wear Eye Protection at all time!
You should never move the gantry's like that as you will introduce back emf currents into the electronics unless they are protected
do it with your mirrors out of alignment
I see that you're 'jiggling' (5:11)your tool to capture what appears to be the flat on the tool. If the tool is 'calibrated' at the factory in relation to the flat I would think it would behoove you to tell that to your customers...
Good luck getting a message back from them......
I thought this would really speed up my alignment, but man, it's been a bit frustrating because you don't actually show how to do it. You're assuming that the viewer knows 90% of what you're talking about. I wouldn't have purchased this if I did. Do you have a better video or document other than the 1 in x 1 in piece of paper in 3 pt font that was in the package?
hi regarding beam alignment try this don't work try like for 2 days all setting don't work. did it the old way fixed it like in 2 hours it's now spot-on I just asked for a refund 🤬+ i see a lot of questions and no answers from to months ago
Juan,
You contacted us on Monday, and we replied your email, but we didn't hear back from you.
You contacted us again today through chat, which we replied, but we didn't hear from you.
Then we sent you an email, trying to understand the issue that you're facing, so we can walk you through or process a refund.
We want to help! Please, contact us at (941) 752-5811, so we can help you on this.
Our official communication channels are by phone or email. We always reply to 100% of the contacts made.
Thank you,
American Photonics.
@@americanphotonics9120 you want to help? Start by making a better video or providing better instructions with the item. Great concept; very poor execution.
I like this company and the lens I bought from them. Looks like I'll be sending them more money. Only obstacle is the wife... Looks like back massages and Framboise will be needed.
Very helpful, thank you!
A very poor demonstration that would not entice me to buy the product
Way too much talking, with little real description of how to do anything.
Sorry bud, you can't explain your way out of a paper bag.
What a joke! Some people should not make videos. Perfect example here. This product is a failure waiting to happen and should provide heaps of frustration..... wow