Lucha Underground was amazing, from the wrestlers to the sets to the actual intrigue. While you can say AAA created Pentagon Jr and Fenix LU definitely was important putting them in front of more eyes. They actually used Ricochet correctly and I still think it had the best character work for Santos Escobar and all of that is just scratching the surface. The one issue was trying to bring it back within MLW. That was just dreadful.
You know Steve, an idea so bad of Dom cashing in on Cena might be a great idea. Especially if Cena does a Last Rodeo. A chicken shit heel in Dom chasing with MitB while Damien Priest fails to stop him. :3
Nobody wants it to be the rock because we don't wanna live in the past the attitude is over and still don't think it's as good as I remember it being tbh I would hate it to be the rock
I think the bigger issue is that if Rock beats Cody it hurts Rhodes losing to The Rock back to back years. Also Rock is not gonna wrestle again after that until WM42 where he’ll drop the championship to Roman who will also barely appear on TV and hold the title again for a year at minimum. We’re right back where we started.
AEW's biggest issues is lack of stories and characters.......and they are addressing that, in a big way. Dynamite was very good this week, hope they can keep it up. Moxley taking shit over as a ruthless heel....I'm loving it.
The Vince being the higher power thing worked for me in the end because of the ramifications that followed. He temporarily have to be partner's with Austin because of Linda and also, Stephanie marries HHH and turns on vince because of his actions.
Agree about Uncle Howdy and the Wyatt Sicks. I wanna see Uncle howdy win back the WWE title in a year or 2, in tribute to Bray Wyatt, maybe bring back the Fiend title while he’s champion. The group should be on a tv, atleast once a week to build up a winning streak. Or start building to personal fueds to avenge Bray Wyatt.
I care about AEWs ratings because I like a lot of it but I want them to do better and ratings are an easy justification without having to mess with all the details around why
I don't see cody getting win back if rock beats cody. If that happens, you had rock beat the hell out of Cody on Raw, pinned Cody at Mania Night 1, and then take his title too? I don't see how smart that would be.
Cody finally gets a compelling non-Bloodline feud for the title and people want him to lose it? I like Kevin, been a fan since PWG, but this is the type of feud that this reign has needed and it doesn't need to end with the title changing hands.
I 100% agree with Steve about ratings. Over at WrestleTalk in the comments, there was a guy aguring that, the MoxWo isn't good cause Dynamite only did 633k in the ratings, and no amount of telling him that you can't judge this week's angle on the same week's rating (give this angle time and see if the audience grows) was going to change his mind that this company is dead and getting cancelled 2 weeks after a massive TV deal.
KO would be a great choice beat Cody dirty and sideline him to get him off TV for a few months. He'd be an ideal short-term champ to pass the title into a separate storyline, and then a returning Cody can get revenge in a feud that doesn't involve the title.
Rock absolutely screwed over Punk's organic rise in the early 2010s. I have no interest in seeing Rock do the same thing to Rhodes. Want to kill the current boom? Put old man Rock over, that will do it, long term.
I really truly think that at this point we don’t need to worry about the fans turning on Cody. It doesn’t matter if Cody keeps winning over everyone if the fans always want him to beat the guy he’s against. We don’t live in the cynical era. Especially not within wrestling. Vince going killed that section of the WWE fans. They will happily accept what’s given because they trust the Booker has good ideas
My fantasy booking of Cody: Gunther(W) Vs Cody at CrownJewel. Cody Vs Gunther(W) at WarGames with KO costing him the belt. KO Vs Cody (W) at Saturday Night main event in a Bull Rope match.
This sucks cause i absolutely see Kevin Owens side of things but i also get where Randy Orton is coming from.Both are among my favorite wrestlers.I really feel Orton is better as a Heel so hopefully they both turn on Rhodes.I love Cody Rhodes but he's totally done both Owens & Orton dirty!
People are going to have to come to terms that alot of wrestlers now will not hold the world title. Gunther will most likely hold onto it for at least a year if not more and cody is tied up in bloodline stuff. Whoever beats cody will also most likely hold it for awhile. The longer they wait to change titles the shorter the window on the older wrestlers. Not to mention all the up and coming guys
Sorry folks, Cody is dropping that title to a Samoan, either to the one named Joe in WWE, Black Adam, or super longshot Jacob Fatu. Whine, complain, cry all you want, thats what's going to happen. I also kind of don't want Cena to win another world championship, same with Randy Orton. He's won enough and I'd much rather see him complete the Grand Slam and win the IC Title (cause it'd be really weird if none of Hogan, Rock, Austin, or Cena were to never achieve the Grand Slam).
Why do you feel the need to mock those with hope for a better story? These year long plans are so incredibly boring. Yeah, there are great moments every couple of months but it makes the rest of the program completely inconsequential. Kevin Owens is on a potentially career defining heel run, Cody can have a grudge match with either samoan without the title, you could lead into a slow descend for Cody which would make his character so much more interesting (I know he's Cena. But Cena should've also turned heel.) this philosophy that every title reign has to be long is the biggest issue with post vkm WWE. I don't think it Will happen but it should. Cody as champ is fluffing boring if we Know he isn't dropping the belt til mania. I haven't watched a single of his matches since mania and I'm unlikely to change that until mania.
I'll never understand the phrase "who cares about (fill in the blank)". Obviously, quite a few people care, otherwise it wouldn't be a topic of conversation. The phrase is lazy, dismissive, and overly used when people desperately need to be validated in their opinion and don't want to feel alone in their stance.
Dwayne is washed in the ring and just repeats himself on the mic about chills/arm slaps ..THE PEOPLE!! Line about 39x and no explanations too ANYTHING… please god no on him winning the belt 😂
The sooner the rock fks off the better, him being the boss may actually be worse than vince , atleast vince vince wasn't holding back younger talent cause of his ego
Say it with me: the sagas are toxic. No one's getting what they deserve because it's all about creating a handful of superstars. Why? Because they make more money this way. WWE right now could be the best wrestling product in history but it's ruined by their capitalist identity.
7:45 i generally agree but see aew fans pulled it up all the time until it became unfavorable, so if they get it thrown in their face, fo em. I enjoy both companies but aew hardcores are some of the biggest assholes on the entire internet. Its the kind of ppl who call for a fight until you pull up. Or the fight me bros online until someine shows up.
Owen's getting the title is never the problem it's writing for him after he gets it. Wwe shit all over his universal title run. I think it could be better now but you never know. And fuck no should Cody lose to the rock.
I made it on the thumbnail. Yeah!
Unexplainable level of euphoria 🥲
I agree
Dom cashing in on Cena would be full circle after Cena beating Rey for the belt the same night he won it lol
Tiffany Stratton will cash in on Cody after the Gunther match.
@@sweetrios now that would be a women's revolution
Steve gets daily messages from Kyle saying “i felt someone leaning on my shoulder, and i had to turn around to make sure”
Lucha Underground was amazing, from the wrestlers to the sets to the actual intrigue. While you can say AAA created Pentagon Jr and Fenix LU definitely was important putting them in front of more eyes. They actually used Ricochet correctly and I still think it had the best character work for Santos Escobar and all of that is just scratching the surface. The one issue was trying to bring it back within MLW. That was just dreadful.
I'm surprised Ricochet was booked as The Guy in that company and it worked until of course he left in season 3
AEW's attendance is fun to clown on from time to time in good fun, but once you get serious about their number or WWEs, you've lost the plot.
Lucha Underground was great!
The first season was good, it got ridiculous by the end. The magic glove thing was stupid as hell
😂😂😂 "Supernatural Human Resources" had me dying lol
You know Steve, an idea so bad of Dom cashing in on Cena might be a great idea. Especially if Cena does a Last Rodeo. A chicken shit heel in Dom chasing with MitB while Damien Priest fails to stop him. :3
You iust reminded me that Chad Gable's group is named American Made. They should use Hulk Hogan's WCW enteance music "American Made" 😂
I always thought the American Males theme would be perfect for American Made 😂
I kind of love your Dom cashing in on Cena idea...
Nobody wants it to be the rock because we don't wanna live in the past the attitude is over and still don't think it's as good as I remember it being tbh I would hate it to be the rock
Terrible opinion
@@andrebryant5081goldberg beating the fiend ,rock beating cody. It elevates nobody and does nothing but stroke the ego of old ppl
@@deathmauler181 The Rock beat mid Cody guarantees me watching wrestling again. The Fiend matters more in death than alive.
@@andrebryant5081Agreed
I think the bigger issue is that if Rock beats Cody it hurts Rhodes losing to The Rock back to back years. Also Rock is not gonna wrestle again after that until WM42 where he’ll drop the championship to Roman who will also barely appear on TV and hold the title again for a year at minimum. We’re right back where we started.
I would love if dom cashes in on cena. Gives dom another way to turn heel yet again.
AEW's biggest issues is lack of stories and characters.......and they are addressing that, in a big way.
Dynamite was very good this week, hope they can keep it up.
Moxley taking shit over as a ruthless heel....I'm loving it.
Steve spitting the hottest of takes, predicting that Vinci distracts the ref for the Gunther win
Steve's plans for Kevin's part in this story is definitely how they _should_ do it, but Steve's also right saying it won't happen that way.
Apparently they're setting up a spicy love affair storyline between KO, Cody and Randy according to reddit. Can't wait to tune in this Friday baby!
People who crap on AEW for not being as big as WWE is like crapping on a local burger joint for not doing McDonald's numbers
i’d be expecting more if a wrestling company was ran by a millionaire…….
It's more like crapping on burger King. It's not like it's a local indy promotion.
Not the poor million dollar wrestling company...
bro aew is owned by a billionare…even the wwe has more humble beginnings 💀
The difference is, those local burger joints don't constantly trash talk McDonalds and invite all the hate from people who like McDonalds.
My hot take: The "Cerebral Assasin" was the most missplaced moniker in wrestling, his brilliant masterplans always came down to "hit with big hammer"
Can confirm. Lucha Underground was dope!
The Vince being the higher power thing worked for me in the end because of the ramifications that followed.
He temporarily have to be partner's with Austin because of Linda and also, Stephanie marries HHH and turns on vince because of his actions.
Sweaty takes in here
The rock winning the belt at RR makes so much sense. Owens Orton Rhodes at WM. Rock vs Roman for the belt (the real tribal chief)
You should do watch along for lucha underground ppl would be interested
Lucha Underground is great but it falls off eventually tbh.
Kill shot (swerve) vs Dante fox in lucha underground is one of my favorite matches.
Agree about Uncle Howdy and the Wyatt Sicks. I wanna see Uncle howdy win back the WWE title in a year or 2, in tribute to Bray Wyatt, maybe bring back the Fiend title while he’s champion. The group should be on a tv, atleast once a week to build up a winning streak. Or start building to personal fueds to avenge Bray Wyatt.
I care about AEWs ratings because I like a lot of it but I want them to do better and ratings are an easy justification without having to mess with all the details around why
It's almost like Champion vs. Champion matches are a bad idea o_o*
I grew up on The Rock right around the end of 99. I'm sorry but 52 year old Rock doesn't need the WWE title in 2024 or beyond.
I don't see cody getting win back if rock beats cody. If that happens, you had rock beat the hell out of Cody on Raw, pinned Cody at Mania Night 1, and then take his title too? I don't see how smart that would be.
Randy beats KO. Cody wants a match with KO. Randy says I beat him, I should get a title match. Leads to triple threat.
Cody finally gets a compelling non-Bloodline feud for the title and people want him to lose it? I like Kevin, been a fan since PWG, but this is the type of feud that this reign has needed and it doesn't need to end with the title changing hands.
I 100% agree with Steve about ratings. Over at WrestleTalk in the comments, there was a guy aguring that, the MoxWo isn't good cause Dynamite only did 633k in the ratings, and no amount of telling him that you can't judge this week's angle on the same week's rating (give this angle time and see if the audience grows) was going to change his mind that this company is dead and getting cancelled 2 weeks after a massive TV deal.
KO would be a great choice beat Cody dirty and sideline him to get him off TV for a few months. He'd be an ideal short-term champ to pass the title into a separate storyline, and then a returning Cody can get revenge in a feud that doesn't involve the title.
Rock absolutely screwed over Punk's organic rise in the early 2010s.
I have no interest in seeing Rock do the same thing to Rhodes.
Want to kill the current boom? Put old man Rock over, that will do it, long term.
There is no boom
Love these!
We are really tying to compare this era to the attitude era which is not working that's why we're comparing aew/wwe numbers.
YES! The hot takes are up!
I really truly think that at this point we don’t need to worry about the fans turning on Cody. It doesn’t matter if Cody keeps winning over everyone if the fans always want him to beat the guy he’s against. We don’t live in the cynical era. Especially not within wrestling. Vince going killed that section of the WWE fans. They will happily accept what’s given because they trust the Booker has good ideas
Cody is already beat Roman clean because the interferences were equal on both sides
I honestly think Randy will end up being the heel. I really hope Orton wins the title only to drop it back to Cody before mania.
What do you mean Kevin Owens bad guy? He’s justified for being pissed at Cody for helping Roman Reigns after everything him and the bloodline did.
Dwayne being a cancer, again shock of all shocks
As far as ratings if nobody is watching then nobody is going to pay to see it live. Less viewers means less ad revenue.
Ain't happening until mania ...y'all know that
My fantasy booking of Cody: Gunther(W) Vs Cody at CrownJewel. Cody Vs Gunther(W) at WarGames with KO costing him the belt. KO Vs Cody (W) at Saturday Night main event in a Bull Rope match.
Dwayne beating cody os dumb because it gives no weight to the matches ,atleast for hardcores ig
Oh & i feel its gonna be the OTC (Face)Roman Reigns that ultimately takes his title back from Rhodes.
Duba duba eeeee
Which wrestler who never won a world title be the next world champion?
This sucks cause i absolutely see Kevin Owens side of things but i also get where Randy Orton is coming from.Both are among my favorite wrestlers.I really feel Orton is better as a Heel so hopefully they both turn on Rhodes.I love Cody Rhodes but he's totally done both Owens & Orton dirty!
A pushing-60 bad actor politicking to be the champ? Is Ultimo Dragon wrestling Dean Malenko next Monday?
Rumble
I wonder who the next target of the sicks are gonna be
It should absolutely be Roman that takes the title off Cody
*setting this here for when The Rock takes the title off of Cody Rhodes*
People are going to have to come to terms that alot of wrestlers now will not hold the world title. Gunther will most likely hold onto it for at least a year if not more and cody is tied up in bloodline stuff. Whoever beats cody will also most likely hold it for awhile. The longer they wait to change titles the shorter the window on the older wrestlers. Not to mention all the up and coming guys
Sorry folks, Cody is dropping that title to a Samoan, either to the one named Joe in WWE, Black Adam, or super longshot Jacob Fatu. Whine, complain, cry all you want, thats what's going to happen.
I also kind of don't want Cena to win another world championship, same with Randy Orton. He's won enough and I'd much rather see him complete the Grand Slam and win the IC Title (cause it'd be really weird if none of Hogan, Rock, Austin, or Cena were to never achieve the Grand Slam).
Eastside comin in like “I’m afraid I got some bad newwwws”
Why do you feel the need to mock those with hope for a better story? These year long plans are so incredibly boring. Yeah, there are great moments every couple of months but it makes the rest of the program completely inconsequential. Kevin Owens is on a potentially career defining heel run, Cody can have a grudge match with either samoan without the title, you could lead into a slow descend for Cody which would make his character so much more interesting (I know he's Cena. But Cena should've also turned heel.) this philosophy that every title reign has to be long is the biggest issue with post vkm WWE. I don't think it Will happen but it should. Cody as champ is fluffing boring if we Know he isn't dropping the belt til mania. I haven't watched a single of his matches since mania and I'm unlikely to change that until mania.
Yeah dude because pissimg off the fans intentionally worked well for vince
@@ndro_gynybecause its what ppl like him do. But if I say what think he should do with a rope n a chair I'll get muted or banned
RoH should be developmental
“I don’t like Kane anymore” bec of his politics? So childish lmao
SOLO IS THE REAL TRIBAL CHIEF ☝ACKNOWLEDGE SOLO
He's boooooorrrriiiiiiinnnnnggg
@@jetman80popsso is the rock
I'll never understand the phrase "who cares about (fill in the blank)". Obviously, quite a few people care, otherwise it wouldn't be a topic of conversation. The phrase is lazy, dismissive, and overly used when people desperately need to be validated in their opinion and don't want to feel alone in their stance.
The title is going back on Hogan brother 😎
Ion know about ko dethrone cody i can see rock or randy
MAKE KEVIN OWENS THE TRIVAL CHIEF
LONG LIVE THE TRIVIAL CHIEF!!!
LONG MAY THE TRIBAL PRIME MINISTER REIGN, EH!
Dwayne is washed in the ring and just repeats himself on the mic about chills/arm slaps ..THE PEOPLE!! Line about 39x and no explanations too ANYTHING… please god no on him winning the belt 😂
Cap
The sooner the rock fks off the better, him being the boss may actually be worse than vince , atleast vince vince wasn't holding back younger talent cause of his ego
Lol Vince absolutely 100% did that literally constantly all the time
@@charlievogt9430no, he did it cause he was shit at booking cause old and out of touch . The rock us doing it cause everything is about him
Say it with me: the sagas are toxic. No one's getting what they deserve because it's all about creating a handful of superstars. Why? Because they make more money this way. WWE right now could be the best wrestling product in history but it's ruined by their capitalist identity.
7:45 i generally agree but see aew fans pulled it up all the time until it became unfavorable, so if they get it thrown in their face, fo em. I enjoy both companies but aew hardcores are some of the biggest assholes on the entire internet.
Its the kind of ppl who call for a fight until you pull up. Or the fight me bros online until someine shows up.
Owen's getting the title is never the problem it's writing for him after he gets it. Wwe shit all over his universal title run. I think it could be better now but you never know. And fuck no should Cody lose to the rock.
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Get Bluesky. Its everything twitter USED to be. Its fantastic
Twitter is the same thing it used to be but less censorship and a new stupid name cause Elon is a galaxy brain