American reacts to SURPRISING differences in German kids VS American kids
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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in germany we make fun of the "helicopter parents", now I see U.S. has "aircraftcarrier parents"
😂😂😂😂
Since Political correctnes came Germans have become FLAK-Parents: Helicopter-parents are the punchline of most good jokes, because they are the only group you can laugh at without offending someone.
Best comment ever
Also in Netherlands. Also same reason in winter especially they would get too hot in the store. Sometimes they are left at front of store by the door.
When I grew up in Minnesota big Swedish farming family they all would bundle kids up in winter and put them outside to sleep in the sun. Yes fresh air and sun.
We were always sent out into the cold and glad to go.
Great comment. Wanted to say something along the lines: you want German kid? Don't protect it too much.
But your comment makes this more clear!
"do we just allow kids to walk through concentration camps?" that line hurt. why wouldnt we allow our kids to learn about our history?
i think that goes along the lines of thinking you should sugarcoat life for children. I'm so against that. Take these little people serious and talk straight with them. That includes the history of where they live.
because america, or rather the usa, is all about making everyone believe that they are the best country in the world. they dont wanna show what went wrong
Americans allow children to bear baby sized firearms.
Problem with this is you learn everything about the negative part of german history specially Hitler but now why this actually happened and the good parts about our history.
And then you have these green leftist that hate themself for being german and everything and everyone.
@@unlink1649 yea
After living in Germany for over 20 years I was definitely surprised to hear the story about the baby left outside. The Germans usually leave their dogs outside, but not their children.
French people does it.. :)
Then you have to know that Germans treating pets better than humans😉
yes, thats's really odd and not normal.
I’ve never seen it here either, but I knew that they leave their babies outside in the Scandinavian countries
I dont know where you live in germany,but we really do that...greetings a German ;)
In Germany, in daycare, we always where outside... sunshine, outside. Snow, outside. Rain, outside. We grew up this way and I think it helped alot to be more active
That's completely true, but has nothing to do with leaving a sleeping baby or very young kid outside alone, while parents are inside a café.
German here. Some years ago, I was daycaring some kids and we took them to the neighbour city via public tansportation. We alway keep track of our kids by counting and paring them up. When we arrived back at our daycare, we counted again and we havn't lost one kid, but we had one more. Obsiously one kid in the bus befriended some of our kids on the busride and decided to come with us.
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That's so cute but terrifying for the parents😂
During an organised vacation for children on one stop, we were telling the children to go on the bus and some random kid on the parking lot decided that "everyone back into the bus" was addressed to it, too. Thank god that was noticed before the bus arrived at its destination, or the child would have been in a completely different country. As it was, it suddenly started to wail that it wanted to leave again and to its parents. (And yes, the parents were already pretty panicked).
That's hilarious xD
😂😂😂
Being so shocked that kids get to see concentration camps. When I was 15 my class went to Dachau, too. It was a shock, yes, but in a good way. Taught me so much. Especially knowing that kids my age or even younger got killed in these camps.
If you ever go to visit one of those camps... bring tissues.
As far as I know, all over Germany, around the 9th or 10th grade, there is such an event where kids go to these places. For me, being at that time in Berlin, it was not a concentration camp, but the house of the Wannsee conference (the place where the decision for the "final solution" was made). I can also remember that at the time, there was an exhibition about the medical experiments the Nazis did on prisoners with very graphic images.
Even in the Czech Republic it's common for 9th graders to go see concentration camps. We went to Auschwitz concentration camp. Most of the people I know went there on a school trip.
My class was in KZ Sachsenhausen when we was 14-15. Today im 43 and i can remember every second of it. Never ever again i saw 30 kids so quiet walking around and listening the Guide.
Yeah, I used to live in Dachau. Nothing interesting about it, just always a big meme, when I tell people about my hometown.
I was in dachau with my class and its rly crazy. Im not esoteric or anything but when you walk through the gas chambers and grematorium you can literally feel death. U notice that when you walk through these chambers nobody talks because everybody can somehow feel what happened there. What makes it more sick is that theyre calles "brausebad" meaning something like bubblebath while they actually were gas chambers. And that is just Dachau wich was more of a work slave camp that killed ppl through overworking. Other camps that were more focused on mass killing must be even more disturbing. I think it is importand for everyone who can to visite one of these camps once in their lifes. It rly shows what humans are capable of when the wrong circumstances come together. And basically the same thing is happening right now in china.. its rly insane
About the concentration camps. I was in one as well when I was about 15 because it’s part of the curriculum and although it was upsetting I think it was a very important school trip to make. I actually started reading books about the holocaust when I was about 9 (because I wanted to) and I don’t think it traumatized me in any way. It just made it clear to me that I have to do everything to prevent these thing from happening again.
Never was in One at 27, i think it depends from state to state
@@davidblockdb Makes sense as School is regulated by the states. But I think in a lot of states it’s mandatory. In what state did you go to school?
@@miarabea401 i guess it's mandatory depending on how far the next concentration camp is away. We (Bavaria) did a bus trip, 2 hours one way.
At my school in Berlin every 9th grade took a 5 days long trip to Krakau, where one day was visiting Auschwitz-Birkenau, a big concentration camp. It wasn’t mandatory so parents could exempt their kids from that particular part of the trip but no one did except one Jewish family, who lost their relatives in Auschwitz.
It's not mandatory to visit one, but if there is a camp close enough for a field day or somewhere you go on a class trip most schools will make an effort to go see it.
When I was pregnant with my 1st child I was stationed in Frankfurt (US Army) there were so many lovely people so interested in my baby. I found a handmade silk & embroidered christening gown with a bonnet that was so exquisitely made (both my children wore it).
My landlady came to see the baby crooned at him and came back later that night with an entire sweater set (sweater, pants, booties, mittens and hat) that she made that very day. She often would swoop in and carry him off singing to him the whole time.
Even when I flew back to the US (baby was 6 weeks) the German flight attendants passed him around the cabin. The Americans pretty much ignored him, but the Germans spent the entire flight from Frankfurt to NY showering him with love and attention.
Such lovely people made my stress evaporate into thin air.
Thats germany we love kids but we know how to let them become be adults
We leave our babies outside in Sweden too, I think it's common in all of the Nordic countries to do that. It benefits the children to breathe fresh air.
Same here in the Czech Republic. I would never think that someone could "steal" a baby/child.
and its good for the immunesystem
same in Finnland!
I was raised standing more time of the day outside in my stroller winter times than be inside...because of the fresh air and better sleep. It totally has lots of benefits!
Finland too.. but maybe not so safe anymore..
As a German, I am with you on the 'leaving babies outside' thing... I've never seen anyone do this, it's crazy. If you want to sit down in a café and your baby is asleep, you just choose a café where you can sit down outside, you know, next to the baby. I can imagine it happening in a very, very small town where everyone knows each other, but as soon as you enter a city? Unimaginable. How are you going to react in time if something happens?
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Das war in Deutschland früher auch normal, heute kannst du das nicht mehr machen....
My family used to do for short things, like getting the coffee or stuff, but not when sitting down inside. Plus, most often they left our little dog next to the stroller.
Well, I think it depends... When you actually get a place by the window where you can see the baby and are just separated by the wall, I would do it. Well and it would have to be far enough away from like traffic
was just about to say that, i never heard anything of the kind. it´s not so much that you´re concerned for baby snatchers. but someone might bump into the stroller or something and yeah you can´t leave your kid unatended like that, that´s illegal in germany too
I am a German and have 3 "girls", 29,27,27 and I think they have all become nice adults.
My advice for you
- let your kid do things alone, even if it takes longer
- speak and listen to your child and answer his questions, even if they are embarrassing for you
- eat together at the table (try healthy food, but also allow other snacks)
- take him to museums, historic places, theaters, concerts etc. I don't know about the states, but in Germany we have special kids performances or exhibitions that are not too boring
- teach him that all men are created equal but that people out of every group or colour or religion can also be mean
- take him to any public places like restaurants or cafés or... and teach him how to behave there
These are the basic things I did. Maybe there are more and you will get more tips. Have fun with your kid and enjoy every day. Time flies too fast.
Greetings from Germany Bettina
White Aspargus is very popular in Germany. But it is a seasonal food. You only get it in spring from about late March/earlyApril to mid of June. The white sauce is called "Sauce Hollandaise", which is made with butter. Another variant is to wrap the aspargus in slices of cooked or raw ham. Very popular in Germany, but a bit on the expensive side. Basically a delicacy we enjoy for a few weeks every year.
About the Bars segment: Bars in Europe (especially in southern Europe) are not the same as in the US, we treat them just like another restaurant in which you go to meet family and friends while enjoying a beer, no kid will be traumatised to see their parents drink a yellow beverage while they themselves are playing with their friends
🎵🎶" A ist für Apfel, B ist für Bier, C ist..."
Daddy gets a beer and the small one gets Apfelschorle
True, you just drink your juice or your colacao and talk with your siblings hehe
Well it depends on the bar lol
My alcoholic grandfather used to take me to his fav. Bar to his creep friends and get wasted lol did kind of suck for alot of reasons
But yeah often it's the kids playing while the adults just chill a bit
@@aleisterlavey9716 I'm an Australian and we know what C is for it means it means Bunt
being afraid all the time that someone could do something bad must be really exhausting in the USA... in general children in Germany are expected to be much more capable because you don't have to be afraid someone with a gun coming out of some corner.
Agree! It's the same in the Nordic countries
I lived in berlin for 11 years and turkish and later chechen gangs were a big problem , specialy as Police in the 90s would do nothing about them, double that id you werent german yourself.
Since when to you need a gun to take a baby away?
@@CocoaPimper I'm talking about the general fear he's caught up in the video
This fear you reference is something that makes me crazy as a parent in the US. I do not get why most US people expect everyone to be a bad guy, out to steal or harm your kids, and I was born here.
I remember a close friend of mine saying "if anyone ever calls me a nazi again, I'll punch the shit out of them" after we were watching a heavy and dark documentary about the holocaust in history class at around age 15. Stuff like this really strenghtens empathy, I think it's very important
For a school history paper here in Germany, I talked to a now dead man who actually fought in WW2 in Stalingrad and recorded it to be played in front of my class! No history book can tell you all the gruesome facts and details of it like a man who experienced it first hand. Two of my class went outside because they felt they had to throw up. This is how history is taught in Germany, the US can only learn from it.
I realize now how free I grew up. When I was a kid I was outside all the time. My mom just said: you have to be home at 6 pm and I was walking through the village, through the fields, through the woods with the other kids. It is seen as healthy to be outside. I was just allowed to go inside to play Gameboy for a very short time of the day. My grandma always says that when I was a baby I cried and cried until someone took me outside in the stroller and left me there to sleep, even when it was raining like crazy. No one would kidnap a child like that here.
I actually got lost one time when I was at a swimming trip with my school at elementary school. I couldn´t find my class anymore, went to the bus station and an unknown lady paid the bus fee and told the bus driver to take care that I was leaving at the right bus stop (I already knew my bus stop, but the driver took extra care) and I went home. Just like that. No drama.
Yes. Same here. I grew up like that too and today my own kids (10 and 12) also grow up like that. In the summertime they run arround in our village till 10pm and only come in when they are very hungry. :-D
Same here )also grewup in Germany). I remember having the same experiences as a child - especially when we did get lost(-ish). I guess we learned for life everytime!
But this is a long time ago and people on the countryside feel a bit more safe and the children are more outside. But if you hear a child was stolen, it is mostly on the countryside.
@@GSL1 Im from a big city in Germany and I grew up totally the same as the people mentioned before. As I was in Kindergarten, with like 5 years or so, I always drove alone to the Kindergarten with my bike. I played alone or with other kids outside and the only "rule" was to be home before sunset. The Kindergarten was like 2-3km (1.5-2 miles) away from my home and I had to cross the main road of the city.
edit: but you are totally right, that it has become less often nowadays. But I wouldn´t say, that people on the countryside are less aware of their kids than in the city. I´ve lived in many citys and in many villages and my feeling is, that there are much more "helicopter parents" on the countryside.
@@Jeeroy_Lenkins no, it is not allowed today, not rare.
As a german I can confirm the vegetable part.
In the time it took to watch this whole video I ate:
2 carrots, 3 miniature cucumbers, half of a red bell pepper and about 30 cherry tomatoes.
They're even called snack tomatoes here.
Me to. Was a good German and had some cucumber slices, some turnip sclices, some snack tomatoes and a few apple slices (yes they are fruit but still)...
I literally just had radishes for breakfast. Can't live without that good stuff. Where else should i get that nice mild spiciness and freshness?
I ate a salad with all that in it xD
well, i had eaten some salami... so we balance that stuff
Wow, now you made me hungry! I want carrot and bell pepper too! I think I'll get some
My mom works in a kindergarten and I guess the reason so many things are outsourced there is that kindergartens aren’t just to „park“ your kid there to let it play. Instead they learn about social interaction sometimes even to use the toilet. The „Erzieher“ don’t just play and draw with the children but literally help raising the children in most cases. So to fulfill this task as a „specialist“ they outsource other tasks to other specialists :)
My mom always told me that this was a common thing in eastgermany that babys were left outside and sometimes there was a granny calming my older brothers down when they cried and nothing ever happened to them ❤
Well, that was more than 50 years ago I guess. In the times of my grandpa it was uncommon to lock bikes. Nowadays they'd be stolen within the same day. Things changed, because the people changed...
Just to clarify: most vegetables like potatoes or asparagus are not consumed raw in Germany (or Europe as a whole), but what Haylee means is unprocessed and cooked or steamed instead of deep-fried. Also, the whitish sauce in the picture was most likely a sauce hollandaise
Arrested for leaving a baby just outside when it is perfectly safe but denying any sensible maternal leave… oh America!
Probably not in the us...
Just yesterday i watched some photography youtuber's video and the reason for him not using a camera but an iPhone instead was that he might get shot/robbed. He mentioned it casually as if it was the most normal thing...
Although don't take my word for it as it was just a youtube video, but it seriously baffled me.
"....but denying any sensible maternal leave..."
Paid for by whom? ....Oh, this is where the government places a gun to the head of your employer and demands he or they pay for this "benefit".
Is it perfectly safe to tell your government that you will be sending your child to a private school of your choosing or even homeschooling him for his education? ...Or will you be arrested and have your children taken "into care" by the state?
Oh, Deutschland!
@@MrJm323 "Oh nOooO ThOsE PoOr CoMpaNies. 🤓" You are not getting a payment raise for this you know? But I guess you love being a slave 🤣🤣🤣
@@MrJm323 Funny being so worried about who pays what and ending up paying a sh*t-ton more for literally less 😂 A nation wide scam fueled by pride and the laughs of the few benefiting. Eh not criticizing! Just laughing at your choices. That it is a freedom I have, right? 😂
The companies you work for in the US pays your maternity leave.
Polish guy here. Like two weeks ago I had some friends over for a grill. Its pretty common to have some raw veggies to eat alongside meat and baguettes. You just wash and slice them and its done. Bon appetit. What was funny is that after everyone went home I was all out of tomatoes, red peppers and cucumbers (and I bought a lot) but there was still a lot of meat left :)
Fun fact: in germany you are actually allowed to drink soft alcohol (like beer or wine) at the age of 14 when you are with your parents
Das ist bescheuert und traurig
.... what, 14? I remember 16 from my own younger days, but eventually it changed to 18. What have I missed?
@@m.t3621 halt ich jetzt auch erstmal für ein Gerücht.
@@mercatorjubio3804 guck Herr Anwalt was man ab 14 alles darf. Man kann das auch in JuSchGes Paragraph 9 nachlesen
@@joel_w5.08 ja ok, ab 16 alleine, darunter mit den Eltern, letzteres war mir tatsächlich neu
About the raw veggies: we start pretty early to provide it. Turnip, peppers, carrots, cucumber, are regular snacks at home and in the daycare.
true
When I (german) was a child I walked into the garden of my parents, put some carrots fresh out of the ground, dipped them into the rain barrel and ate them. They were a bit extra crunchy thanks to the soil. :D
@@KitsuneHB same for me and radishes and tomatoes. My mum had those in the garden, so when I was playing in the yard and got hungry, I'd pick a ripe tomato or pull out a radish once they were ready and eat them.
Good that this was mentioned in the video. A lot of typical German food contains meat and that may lead to a false impression to some viewers. Germany still ranks quite high when it comes to meat consumption per capita and year but the average is lower to e.g. USA (76kg vs. 128kg or 280lbs). To put that into perspective India on the other end of the spectrum is at 5kg/a and the world average is 43kg/a.
I forgot to tell you that at Macieds we can have a beer with the burger
Also in most eaters you can get a drink
As long as I can see my baby/child, it's not crowded and I'm with the child at all times, within three seconds, it's not a problem after all. We also let our child sleep outside in the fresh air in the stroller. There was never any danger of being kidnapped. So it always depends on the environment. German parents are certainly not more irresponsible than American parents. That should be obvious.
exactly
Unless I misunderstood something, she left the kid outside? In winter? And it's not "I can be by my baby's side in three seconds", either, the door is closed, if someone just strolled by and grabbed the stroller, good luck catching up. It's not like kids don't get kidnapped in Germany, what?? I am also German, I have never ever seen anything like it and would judge the hell out of any mother who did something like that. Leaving the stroller a meter or two away so you can get to the counter? That's fine. But leaving the baby outside? Hell naw. In any event, that is not something "typically German".
@@catatemyname7801 Heyley hat es doch nochmal geschrieben: Die Mutter saß direkt davor und konnte jederzeit das Kind durch die Fensterscheibe sehen. So hätte die Mutter innerhalb von drei Sekunden Zugriff auf das Kind gehabt, dass aber fest schlief und dick eingepackt war. Wir haben unser Kind auch, dick eingepackt, im Winter draußen mit Decken, etc. Mittagschlaf machen lassen. Es hat ihr nie geschadet, sondern im Gegenteil, war es gesund und hat sie stark gemacht. Die Mutter hatte das Kind sicherlich nicht irgendwo, wo viele Menschen ständig lang laufen stehen, sondern es war vermutlich ein ruhiges Plätzchen, dort wo das Café war. Mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit kommt da kein Baby-Kidnapper vorbei und schafft es dann auch noch vor den Augen der Mutter mit dem Kind abzuhauen. Ich sehe hier die überzogene Angst nicht. Andernfalls müsste ich jederzeit auch draußen Angst haben, dass mein Kind vom Blitz oder von einem Meteoriten getroffen bzw. erschlagen wird. Aber was typisch ist, dass Sie gleich die Mutter maßregeln und belehren würden, als wenn Sie das irgendwas anginge. Das ist nun wirklich typisch Deutsch. 😀
@@catatemyname7801 Heyley wrote it: The mother was sitting directly in front of it and could see the child through the window pane at any time. So the mother would have had access to the child within three seconds, but it was asleep and thickly wrapped. We also had our child, wrapped up thickly, outside in the winter with blankets, etc. letting her take naps. It never harmed her, but on the contrary, it was healthy and made her strong. The mother certainly did not have the child standing somewhere where many people were constantly walking along, but it was probably a quiet place, where the café was. It is almost certain that no baby kidnapper will pass by there and then manage to run away with the child in front of the mother's eyes. I do not see the exaggerated fear here. Otherwise I would have also to be afraid that my child will be hit by lightning or a meteorite. But what typical German is that you would immediately reprimand and instruct the mother, as if it were any of your business. Now that is really typical German 😀.
@@SkandalRadar Verstehen Sie mich nicht falsch, ich würde die Mutter nicht darauf ansprechen. Es ist nicht illegal und jedem selbst überlassen, womit man sich wohl fühlt. Mit "judging" meinte ich eher, ich würde mich wundern dass die Mutter keine Angst hätte, weil ich es mir absolut nicht vorstellen kann so etwas zu machen. Zugegeben, ich bin übervorsichtig, und sehe es ein, dass viele meiner Vorsichtsmaßnahmen eher meiner inneren Ruhe dienen als dass mein Kind da realistisch in Gefahr ist (und weiß auch, dass je älter mein Kind wird, umso mehr muss ich es machen lassen, und mit meiner Angst leben). Dennoch, draußen ist schon ein Stück zu krass für mich. Kommt natürlich darauf an, wie das Café aufgebaut ist, aber wenn man am Tisch sitzt, braucht man in der Regel mehrere Sekunden um einfach nur aufzustehen, dann noch zur Tür und nach draußen zu gelangen. Mir wäre es zu weit weg, auch wenn ich das Kind die ganze Zeit sehen könnte. Und ich habe es auch bisher nie beobachtet, dass es irgendjemand anders gemacht hätte.
The leaving the baby outside part is really depending on where you live! With Small towns that def works - since you usually know the people living there… but in big cities (districts/areas with higher population densities etc) you don’t see that.
And for why: people with balconies or terraces have their kids sleeping outside as well, cause cold fresh air actually is very healthy
The one thing I missed most when living in the US was the connection between...everything. I felt like I had to drive everywhere and everything is so far apart there's little connections between neighbors and everything, including the people. I felt very lonely and disconnected because there's not accidental bumping into your friend walking downtown or seeing that past crush while out at a local pub. You have to make an effort to socialize which is hard for introverts.
Try Spain....I have arrived here with a job,in a village,got in a bar for a beer. 2 hours later i knew half of the village population,who with who are family,cousins,neighbours,friends,etc. I was sent here for a electricity job of 2 weeks.....that was 20 years ago and i'm still here......
@@draculakickyourass That sounds lovely! I guess I have to visit Spain
To visit a KZ is mandatory for german students. I live near the french border, so I took my sons to the Maginot Line too , a big defence Line of Bunkers and Trenches from WW1.
We in Europ take History serious, knowing History helps prevent to make the same mistakes again.
Greetings from Germany
I don't think it is mandatory, our class didn't visit a KZ. But it is very common, so most German students will visit / have visited a Gedenkstätte.
@@hinekde Nope. It's not mandatory. And the history lessons differ significantly depending on which kind of school and state you are in.
I went to two of them. 8th grade and 10th grade. And our class went to Prague in our last year of school. We visited the graveyards there and all.
The teachers adjusted the amount of information, told us to pick a name and photo of a kid and basically take them with us when we walked through the thing.
All three trips were very intense and moving.
It's not mandatory, but a lot of schools do it as part of some excursion or so.
The Maginot Line was build after WW1
Not the children are different, THE PARENTS and THE SOCIETY are different. The children are only different in that way that they are different influenced, its not a genetic disease its an american disease.
There was a report of a german americanresided reporter living with her family in the states, she is known in her neighborhood as the "Rabenmutter".
At 4:00 you get thepoint its not the problem what is wrong with the other countries, ask what is wrong with the states.
You can even let your car left open, in most cases for weeks nothing will happen, but of course you will have trouble with insurance company if something happens.
Agree 10000%. Grüße aus Österreich
I am living in a rather rural area. The flower fields are completely self-service. You cut the flowers and then you pay. The farmers trust you to pay. Some people may not pay though, but the majority does.
Its a real big difference between taking care for the children and beeing paranoid.
As the light stay on you may drain the battery too much. (Lead batteries are damaged if undercharged)
i forgot my motorbike with the keys on it a couple of times , out in the street , it was still there the next morning
hello there, for everyone, who dont know how to eat white asparagus but want to try it: great difference to the green one - peel it!!!! many small stands that offer white asparagus have some machines and offer to peel it, if wanted. in my family, we do it like this: we peel it, wash the peel shortly under cold water, then into the pot with a lot of water, some salt and a little bit of sugar. cook it for about 10-15 min, then remove the peel and put the asparagus into the water. add a little bit more salt and sugar and a little bit of butter. cook it about 10 min (depending, how thick the asparagus is). we love it very traditional: cooked potatoes, melted butter and smoked ham. the cooking water from the asparagus can be drunken cold (to rinse the kidneys) or can be changed into a lovely soup with the leftover asparagus the next day. i usually add some muskatnuss and black pepper to the soup. 🙂
My daughter, when she was asked to bring her favorite food to her school activity, she asked me if we can make a veggie platter wirh dips 😊
And when we lived in the US for a few months, we had also this “funny” situations. Like living her outside 😅 (no, we didn’t had problems with the police, but my cousin almost fainted when we told her the story)
Also, when our daughter got sick, my uncle told her she has to take medicine, she answered, no, I just need some fresh air 😂
A word on the concentration camp, whats bad about teaching kids history? Specifically about your own?
I'm from Switzerland and we are also exposed to beer and wine at 16, we get our first "bad" experience with alcohol with our parents or close/older friends so we can learn our limits early on and take responsibility on our drinking early
Exactly. We were celebrating the end of the school year outside near the forest, drinking for more or less the first time at age 15-17 (i was 15 so underage). At one point a police car showed up and i was so scared by american movies that i actually thought i'd get in trouble.
However they were swiss police, so they just rolled the window down and told us to please pick up the trash in the end, then drove on. But then 100m away they stopped and drove backwards and i again thought we're fucked. But they just said "we noticed you have a beer barrel... little tip: take it to the recycling place and you can get some money back for the scrap metal. Now enjoy your evening goodbye" and then they left. Needless to say, we went back first thing at 8am the next morning to clean up, whatever we overlooked the night before.
same here in Serbia
@@Soff1859 my first experience I was also underage (14) but had an older friend (16) took responsibility, brought me home met some policemen on the way. They really didn't care just asked to clean up after us
Not in germany. The most teenager I knew drunk alcohol at partys and practice 'koma-saufen'... I think non drugs are for children. Let them grow up first.
I mean...technically you'd learn that idk about reality tho lol
The whole knowing about history part explains why most Americans seem to be very patriotic and why at least I as a German don't get that at all. I grew up learning about my family's and my country's history, talking about it with my parents and grandparents and learning about it at school. That's why I'm able to see the different aspects of being a German and of Germany as a country. The fact that a lot of Americans seem not to be able to do that still shocks me tbh - but how could they if they hadn't learned it from a young age?
Also, as a person working with children: All those "field trips" are always chaotic, especially with younger children. But we believe in teaching our children to handle being frustrated and not always being first. It has gotten harder to do that during the last few years as children don't seem to learn that at home anymore, still we try to do our best.
Das ist mir auch aufgefallen, dass das Kind immer "glücklich" sein soll, damit es ruhig ist.
Ich denke, dass kommt davon, dass viele Eltern einfach erschöpft sind und den leichteren konfliktfreieren Weg gehen wollen. Wobei ich ein Unterschied machen möchte, zwischen adultistischen Aufwachsen und bedürfnisorientierten Aufwachsen. Ich finde den Adultismus schrecklich!
Tbf, most americas, that call themselves patriots are actually just nationalists.
In my german school, we had a survivor from a concentration camp coming every year, very lovely woman. She would talk about her life there, aswell as growing up after the war, with pictures, and afterwards we would visit that exact camp. It really opens you up to what happened
It's in the curriculum of every high-school, and even if you didn't choose history as a class, you still have a kind of supplementary history class in the senior year, where that part of history is the main part.
Also, I don't consider 14 years old and older kids as 'kids'. They are teens, and should be able to experience 'grown up' stuff, cause otherwise, how else are they supposed to grow up (and learn from past mistakes).
Btw, German here and I spent half a year in America, so I kind of got to experience both XD
America schools are huuuge btw, in comparison to german ones. And most schools don't have afterschool activities (clubs do exist, but still no comparison to American clubs).
So if you wanna play soccer, am instrument or what not, you'd have to find a club(verein), 'school', etc for it
I'm a kindergardener in training, so I get trained to work in daycares. And from what I learned, part of the reason we make little trips to the library, or the near by pool for swiming lessons, or the neiboring school to use the gym, is to integrate the kids in their surounding area and living space. They get to know their city and places they will spend even more time at once they go to school.
Makes sense. And if you get lost as a kid it might be easier to stay calm and look for a location you have seen before.
@@pxlsoldierExactly! I, my hubby, our kids - we all had been walking to school alone or with our friends. Just the first time, we were new....one of our parents accompanied us, or in other case, went with older siblings. No big deal.
In Germany, but I have to admit...in the USA, I would rather accompany my kids every time or drive or send them with the schoolbus.. Depends on the location, the distance to school or the age of the kids. I guess the wouldn't like to be accompanied from a parent as a teenager....😂😂
The last point is very important. Who doesn't learn about the dark parts of history will repeat them.
Well..employer-employee still looks like slavery in USA :)))
The type of food you like really depends what you get and what your parents show you. Yes, a childs taste buds are not the same as an adults but you get used to what you grow up with. So if you are shown raw veggies as a snack when you are little, happily munch them with your parents during your fave shows, it becomes a nice thing. Also we have a lot of farmers or "farmers markets" here, where you can get fresh produce grown in your area which usually has a lot of more flavor than the stuff from the super markets.
About the "learning the History" Part: It really is a big part of our culture. We even have so called Stolpersteine (stumbling blocks) in our village, showing the homes of Jews who have been killed during WW2. Every time I walk past one (I come around 6 to 7 on my way to the local bakery) I get remindet of the History of my Village and to not let this be repeated.
The part about going outside to do stuff at Kindergarten (Day care) is about walking with the kids in the Woods, etc. and especially the walking part...so they get fresh air and be more aware of the Economy and nature. (Hardly ever use any Kind of transportation etc.) Everything is a learning process and we learn everything from a very young age. 🙂
Not only. On their way to the forest or playground, they learn how to behave in traffic, where to walk, when to wait, where to look before crossing the street, and so on. It's a multipurpose walk :)
My grandson is on the road with his Kindergarten at least 2x a week, even the have a lot of things there and a big property.
"...so they get fresh air and be more aware of the Economy and nature."
Did you mean "ecology", or do you mean you stop be the local bank for a lecture on monetary policy?
@@MrJm323
>> ...so they get fresh air and be more aware of the Economy and nature.
> Did you mean "ecology", or do you mean you stop be the local bank for a lecture on monetary policy?
I'm going out on a limb here and guess, that the word, that they looked for, was "environment".
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It's not typical everywhere to go out to a walk with small children everyday. But the children are mostly good behaved - look to traffic and even on a playground they are not that loud. Some kindergardens have a big backyard and don't do that walk.
The secret to good behavior is that you have to be strict and understanding. If most of your peers respect older people you're more likely too.
There also kindergardens in a or near a forest - "Waldkindergarten"
where they have fresh air, its quieter and they play in and get to know nature.
16 is a good age for beer, especially with your parents. My dad took me out to have a drink ( or one too much every now and then ) to teach me about consequences and responsibility with alcohol. He knew he couldnt control my "weekend routines" in the coming years of my late teens... so he rather teached me to be smart while drinking. Not saying im an expert but it prevented me from doing some seriously stupid things.
Kind of funny, my dad also gave me tricks and advice on how to get drunk less quickly when I was about 16. 😂
We were visiting my mom's cousin in the US a few years ago. We went to Cherokee together and stayed there for a night. We specifically went to a history museum there.
My mom's cousin actually broke out in tears after a while, because he had NO IDEA about how gruesome the American history is, especially towards natives.
I was absolutely dumbfounded, because how could he not know? In Germany, there's whole ass TV programs with documentaries about all kinds of things. Especially history of many different countries and cultures. I started watching documentaries from a very young age, because it's good to learn not only about your own country's history, but the history of the world as a whole.
That is why, even if it was shocking back then, I'm glad we went to Dachau when I was still in school, 15 years ago. We learned so much about concentration camps in school, but actually being there is a whole different thing.
Learning about history is SO important, because then we can try to make sure that history won't repeat itself. At least the bad parts of history.
Another thing you'll see a lot in Germany is children going about their business unattended.
They go to the store, to the playground and to school and back by themselves. If you're old enough to go to school, you're old enough to go by yourself.
I was around 14 (55 now) when I visited Dachau at a field trip of my class. It changed me. While driving there, we boys made really awful jokes. You can imagine which kind. But being there? Seeing pictures and being in the place where these pictures were taken? We were all crushed. It made an impression on all of us.
Never forget.
The white sauce is called "sauce Hollandaise" and it's similar to "Bechamel sauce" - it's sooooooo tasty :D with white asparagus and potatos, every spring! This is THE spring dish here that everyone looks forward to
I still remember that veggies are gone much quicker if they look interesting. That apple over there? Nobody will touch it. But if you cut it into slices, put some carrot sticks on the plate, maybe little cherry tomatoes, the stuff is gone before you can cut another apple.
You should try it with some chips, the taste of heaven
My Mama and kindergarden teachers would force me to eat everything of the plate, and yell at me or call me picky or rediculous if i gagged or puked. despite the fact that i am very sensitive when it comes to the consistency of most foods especially most vegetables, i still have big issues with eating vegetables because of that.
@@HappyBeezerStudios It's a well-known fact, though, that sliced apple just tastes better. ESPECIALLY when it's been sliced by Mum. ;)
I can only wonder at the supposed similarity of hollandaise and bechamel. Bechamel is a flour based. A proper hollandaise is egg yolk with white wine and broth and it is very difficult to not get the egg so hot it would curdle, but hot enough to thicken the sauce. For the Bechamel you fry some flour lightly in butter then add milk, nutmeg, pepper salt. I really would not recommend that for asparagus.
I’ve been working in Germany a couple times and I’ve seen 13 y/o kids rolling their own cigarettes (in Germany you can buy everything separated to roll your own cigarettes in every supermarket as a cheap alternative to big brands cigarettes). I’ve also seen drunk kids about the same age. The crazy thing about the US is that you don’t need to be legal age to purchase weapons or going to jail but you have to be 21 or older to get a beer.
The basis for all examples is responsibility and natural handling. Children learn from an early age to take responsibility for the environment, their own health, past mistakes and that they can happen again.
It is pretty common as far as I‘ve been told by Scandinavian friends, to have your baby all wrapped up sleeping outside for an hour in the middle of the day, off course protected from possible rain. It is thought of beneficial to the child’s immune system
yep. doesn't matter what season is outside. and yes, even in winter
Yeah, they sleep much better (longer) in fresh cold air. -10C is okay, -15C ... so-so, -20C - good stroller and bedding ;)
After that, ask Yakuts or Eskimos .. greasing open skin helps apparently ;)
I still have to be cold to be to sleep. if i get too cold i wake up and get under the blankets but other wise i always have my legs un covered
Yeah, totally normal
same in Switzerland and most European countries I know
I flew to America with my parents when I was twelve. We went there for climbing and camping. My parents took me shopping at a small store and I was so confused as a kid that I wasn't allowed to carry the plastic bag with some snacks and a bottle of wine. I mean, my parents were right next to me and they paid for it. That was so strange.
When I was 15 years old, I started leading a group of girls about 10 or 11 years old at a boy scout union in Germany. Every month we went hiking at one weekend and in the summerholidays we went for two weeks to Sweden or somewhere else. The point is, we've never ever been on a campsite, but slept in a big black tent in the wood, on a meadow, also without a tent, or we asked a farmer to sleep in the barn. We always cooked on the fire and didn't have camping stove, we washed our clothes and bodys in a lake and in the summer we often saw the next village after two or three days.
We also had no handys, it's nearly 30 years ago now. That means, the parents didn't hear anything from their kids for one or two weeks. :-)
It's hard to imagine today. And even I wonder myself, how much trust the parents had, to let me do these trips with theire little kids, while I was also only 15, 16 or 17 years old. :-)
But it was normal then and such a freedom and wonderful time!
She forgot the biggest part: NOBODY, especially not the parents, are allowed to hit a child. They are human. They have rights just as all of us.
I grew up in a German village and on every second weekend the adults of my grand family met up at the local restaurant/bar/blowling center drinking beer and cocktails while having some fun bowling sessions. It was totally normal that everyone also brought their children and I absolutely loved those weekends. Me and my cousins played around the bar, got our own bowling lane to mess around (although we really were too weak to properly play) or we played some fun games outdoors. Parents allowed us to have a small beer or some beer mixed with lemonade even a year or so before we turned 16. Based on my experience this really helped us children to get a better understanding of what alcohol does and that you need to be careful with it.
It’s the same in the uk your sill kids there with there moms and dads and they will all be drinking not the kids ofc 😂 I think it’s a European thing we are just so chill about drinking lmfao like it’s noting to us
its always better to get your children to stuff like Alcohol while they're supervised tbh, that way they'll never plan to drink it with friends before they turn 16, cause they know they can have fun with their Parents while drinking such and pretty much get a feeling of how it feels and how they'll react to it. my parents have done that and if they didnt, i would've never known i would get kind of "Aggressive" when drinking, they immediatly told me that i got pretty fucking rude, i thought of it as a joke in a somewhat drunken state, but realized pretty quickly that i was being an asshole and nothing else cause i was supervised by my Parents.
which kinda made me look at Alcohol as more of a "Enjoyment" rather than a "GET DRUNK AND FUCKED UP" thing.
and i also know how my body reacts to it and pretty much react to it instinctively at this point.
dont know why parents would just forbid alcohol completely and never really teach them how to "use" alcohol the right way to Enjoy yourself, cause in the end... thats how alcohol should be used, for Enjoyment and not for the sake of being drunk.
I think most children are exposed to alcohol at 14 years old - mostly at family party. With 16 you can drink beer and wine - you're used to how much you're affected with it.
At 18 you learn to drive and you've partied enough to be more responsible.
(also German here) I remember that I learned to draft the perfect beer from the tap long as a kid, before I became interested in the stuff myself. In Europe, alcohol is not considered a taboo like it seems to be in the US.
Yep, in Germany kids can actually drink beer and wine in private and public areas Iwriths consent of their guardian/parent. Age 16 is when they can buy beer and wine, age 18 for hard liquor.
I think this aspect of becoming aware of your own bad part of history and making young people aware of it is a good thing. But actually it doesn´t fit to the American view: "We are the good guys!". So, I think it´s easier to call out other countries like Germany for their bad history and teach about that.
yep, the slavery, the killing of american natives.. all swept under a pink carpet
Even now the American president/government is provoking Russia and China
Apparently they're taught in America, that they saved us and ended WWII for us.
That is so true.America bombs random countries and they dare to call this "bringing democracy".USA has a lot to learn from Germany.
Hi, I am swedish. I left my twins outdoors sleeping in their stroller. I lived on the bottomfloor in an apartmentbuilding and I had my window open so I could hear them. They slept so deep and well. I live in a calm area in Stockholm.
One of my children always chose fruit instead of candy for many years.
My children were 6-7 years when they started to go to school by themselves.
Every child in Sweden go to the woods, different parks etc from like 2 years old several times a week. They walk but if they get tired the teachers bring strollers. Pre-school in Sweden is very cheap so almost everyone attends it after the payed parental leave is over (most commonly after 1-1,5 years)
Good luck with your little one!
Lotta Larsson
I am from Austria and we also learn about WW1 and WW2. That doesn't mean there are no issues with racism but it is important for kids to learn about the horrible things that went on in our Countrys so History won't repeat it self. I didn't know that many Kids in the US don't learn about its failures. Kids are much more compasionate with out the bagage that Adults offen have. History should Always teach us how to do things better and not only the History of our own Country!
I think most kidnapping cases in Germany are "inter-family", when estranged parents take their kids etc. - no baby-snatching or so.
And be careful with the Germans and their love for white asparagus - that vegetable is our "white gold" and big part of our culinary year.
And I love Hayley's videos - she's so natural and expressive.
Not true most of us Germans hate asparagus because of it's smell
I like to eat it but ...
I would say that this fact about kidnapping being mostly in the family is true all around the world, at least the civilized world.
@@phantomlordmxvi Yeah, but in the USA, you got that "stranger danger" thing drilled into kids from an early age. Totally ignoring the fact that it's mostly people the kids KNOW (family, family friends, teachers, etc.) who hurt and abuse kids and not some random strangers. And that mindset's been handed down over several generations now. Imo, it would be better to teach kids bodily autonomy and create a trusting relationship so that if anything happens, the kid knows they can come to you, the parent, and they'll believe you over "Uncle Bob" ...
@@veladarney Actually very happy with the current Gouvernment not being the dumb conservatives that cannot accept that this is fact, the same as dor sexual abuse, and actually focusing on this now.
i'm german and asparagus is the worst vegetable in existence. the taste is unbearable. same for sauce hollondaise.
3:20 Believe me! If someone were to touch the baby who had no reason to do so, a lot of people would immediately intervene. Unfortunately, society in Germany has changed somewhat in the last 20-30 years to the negative, but on the whole, Germans look out for each other and help each other.
7:54 My father very often took me to the "pub" and drank his beer there. I got a Limmo and everything was good. Since no one has bothered.
14:20 So I always loved eating raw peppers (especially the red ones) as a kid. Or even a carrot from time to time. I think in Germany (Europe) we simply grow up with it.
As a german mother of 2: If the baby sleeps, let the baby sleep! Like she said: the baby is all tucked in and sound asleep, and you park your stroller next to the window where you sit and you can see it.
Its common to even leave your kids outside the store in small towns. When your baby wakes up, then someboby will come to the store to say: "To whom belongs the baby? It is awake!" And they even will bring your stroller in, if you are not finished with your errands. 😅❤😊
Before Germans call police on a baby in a stroller they observe and ask in the shops nearby if the mom is there.
I had an interesting experience as a kid. My American relatives visited us and went to a museum with me and my brother. We ran away a few meters and they were really worried that we might get kidnapped. They were much more stressed compared to my parents in the same situation because they were used to always directly watch after kids. I have heard that it's also very uncommon in the US to let your kids play alone in the garden.
There are plenty of stories of immigrants getting in trouble with police or child services because they let their kids play in front of their house. That seems insane even for the States, I know I have seen plenty of US movies were kids play on the street in front of their house.
It really depends who you are and where you live. We were allowed to go anywhere as long as my mother knew where we were going. My niece’s kids are outside most of the day.
I like Hayley’s channel. I‘m an American who is married to a German and has lived in Germany for over 25 years. My kids have been born and raised here. I remember agreeing with Hayley when I first watched this video.
1) Leaving babies outside while going into a cafe: I‘ve seen this a few times in small communities as people go into a bakery or butcher shop if it‘s not crowded. I haven‘t seen anyone leave their child for more than a few minutes, but it still makes me nervous. This also goes along with fear of kidnapping in the States… In Germany, kids play outside (like I did back in the 70’s). When I visit the U.S., I often see huge lawns, but no kids outside playing. Tbh, I wouldn’t let my kid play outside either if I was in the States. I was nervous when my niece walked to the end of the property to get the mail. 😔
2) Veggies: I grew up in the States getting excited when I heard the ice cream truck. My kids in Germany got equally excited when the farmer came by with his tractor and trailer full of veggies. “Mom! Can we get some kohlrabi and radishes?!?!” No lie.
3) Kids leaving day care to go to the “Turnhalle” (gym) or some other location: Yes. And yes, my kids have walked well over a mile to get somewhere. (They learn about traffic rules and how to use public transportation very early. There are no school buses; kids use public transportation to get to school.) Fridays were also “Waldtag” (day in the woods). Sun, rain, snow…it didn’t matter. You’re expected to dress your kids for the weather conditions. Also, playtime outside is every day-again, even in rain or snow. The only exceptions are when it is storming or very cold (and, if it is storming, they just wait until it stops.)
4) Dark history: Yes. I believe it is mandatory for German high school kids to visit a concentration camp. Their history is not hidden or sugar-coated.
Another thing I would add here is that I have never seen training wheels on a bike in Germany, and it is not uncommon to see children as young as 3 years old pedalling around with their parents. They usually are giving a bike that you push along with your legs. They learn to balance and are then given a real bicycle. Also, imo, most of the parents I see with children on bikes are very good at teaching their kids traffic rules, etc. In our state in Germany, you ride on the sidewalk until you are 12 years old. Then, you have to ride on the street. Unfortunately, not every street crossing has a lowered sidewalk, so many times, you have to get off of your bike to push it back over the curb.
One more thing…I feel, in general, German parents are not as afraid of their kid getting hurt as American parents. They have more freedom to climb and run. I often hear German parents say, “Go on, climb higher, you can do it.” While an American parent beside them will either hold their kid back or discourage their kid in some way, “Be careful, you’re too high, you’re going to fall.” Or they just flat out refuse to let the kid play on something.
"There is no bad weather. Only wrong clothing"
In the US comes the fear that the children hurt themselves also the fear they are indebted all their lives because of it, so I can partially understand it 😅
i was raised in Potsdam and Berlin and training wheels were a thing. i remember though that my friends and i couldnt wait to get rid of them and it was obv much cooler to not have them so the motivation to learn quickly was huge hahah
Actually, I think one of the reasons that parents in Germany are not so afraid of their children getting hurt is, that we have a functional healthcare system. The child falls from the tree, breaks its arm, well lesson learnt, the doctor will patch you back up and a month later its fine.
In the US you will go into dept and have to sell your house if your child gets injured beyond a simple scratch.
Wenn's knackt noch nen Meter Bua!
I am from Germany. On holiday my parents went to a bar every evening to see friends and so, drink a bear, enjoying the evening and my sister and I always went with them. (It is only a bar)
There where other kids too, so we always had company. And we always got our Limonade.
We sometimes got money from our parents to go through "secret passageway" between 2 old buildings down the steep hill, to buy chocolate cigarettes.... it was so much fun and we felt like the adults in a fun way.
I know there were a second bar, there were no children allowed. So it is very different from place to place
Did you know that in the DDR mothers went shopping and put their strollers in front of the shop and there were even kind of parking areas for several strollers to be put there? The trust in our society is slowly fading as far as I can tell and I certainly would never leave my baby alone outside in my city.
With regards to history in German schools. Basically we are taught global history beginning with the French Revolution 1789 until about the end of the cold war. Other topics like the colonialization of India, America,Afrika, the settling of Australia and so on are incorporated as well. Usually as part of Imperialism.
Then there's more recent developements, too, like most of the global shenanigans America was up to since it's founding.
Even more important, we are taught the relations between evens.
In my History Finals for example we had to pretty much outline how Events of the 18th century had eventually led up to todays Germany, including different political ideologies, politicians, economic developements and so on.
Starting with the french revolution? We started with the stone age, bronce age, alexander the great, the roman empire, the great migration, the crusades, the holy roman empire german nations, Columbus, the (US) idependence war, and with the french revolution it got more in depth.
i only had WW2 in my schooltime long ago. Barely any WW1 but literally YEARS of the same stuff over and over again.. quite boring after some time.
"....like most of the global shenanigans America was up to since its founding."
Since its founding, you say! (A lot of German immigrants came over to help with our project, you know! Including some of my ancestors from Württemberg.)
Yeah, like when we invaded occupied France and then entered the Third Reich and liberated Dachau and stuff like that -- directed by that irresponsible German-American Dwight Eisenhower! Yes, I know about the strategic saturation bombing of your cities -- commanded by another irresponsible German-American, Karl Spaatz, I think his name was. (Our distant cousin's house in the suburb of Stuttgart Weil-im-Dorf was damaged in the summer of '44 by such shenanigans!) ....We're very sorry to have overthrown that chancellor with the square mustache. We know how popular he was with you all! (And, we know how POPULAR that man was; we've seen the films of crowds of enthusiastic Germans hailing him! Probably the most popular chancellor you've had!)
We're very sorry for stationing hundreds of thousands of troops in the western part of your country until the 1990s. (We still have 40,000 there; I hope we get them home soon and stop with our shenanigans in financing and equipping the Ukrainians. That's certainly not for OUR benefit! We have a whole ocean separating ourselves from Putin.) ....That luftbrücke we threw up in 1948 to keep West Berlin from falling to the Soviets was grossly irresponsible!
Global shenanigans, indeed!
@@semiramisubw4864 Yeah, we only delved deeper into WW1 during 7th or 8th grade, but we alredy had talked about WW2 twice at that point.
One thing I find cool though, is that our history subjects where partly devided between non history classes as well. What we learned about america/britains history was part of our english classes, and WW2 was talked about so often becouse it was also part of our german class. I think in my 13+ years of school, I had to retace a class and am not counting my classes for becoming a kindergardener xD we had the topic of WW2 5 or 6 times, always in different intensity though. (For example the last time we talked about it in grade 12, I think, we mainly focused on the political side of it, in grade 7 or 8 was the depest historical dive into it with everything that build up to it, and in german class we often focused on the aftermath and what live was like during those times.)
One thing I wished though, was that my school would have delved more into the history of "smaler" events and countrys as well. But things like rome, ägypt, or japan where only minor subjects that where often only packed into little projects. A shame, really, considering how much interesting stuff there is to learn!
Yup, it feels like WWII is about half of the entirety of history lessons.
In Germany kids get raised with eating raw vegetables in the Kindergarten already.
So it's pretty common here that kids prefer vegetables sometimes.
I think the „leaving your Baby outside a coffee Shop“ thing differs very much on wich Part you live in Germany. I lived in a three big citys in Germany and never witnessed something like that. Maybe its more common in the countryside?!
I mean, i live in the biggest countryside we got here - saarland - and ive never seen that b4, pretty sure ur getting grumpy looks and comments for that
A few years ago i lived in a more rural area and it was very common to see one or more stroller in front of the butcher, a café or a bakery.
And on the one hand you are a little nervous too, but on the other hand you always knew everyone is having an eye on that baby.
At least that was my experience.
Growing up in the German countryside I learned how to serve beer long bevor I was allowed to drink it and I certainly was not the only one. At community events without professional waiters, it was totally normal for adults, that volunteered for a shift behind the bar, to rope in their children as well. Image my surprise when coming to the US at 26 and being asked for my passport before being allowed to sit at the bar.
Also with regard to how close kids are being watched, it really depends on where you live. In a village where everybody knows everybody letting kids run around outside (or leaving them there) is a lot less of a concern than in a large city with lots of traffic.
At my sister's birthday celebration this year, my 11-year-old niece and her friends mixed the cocktails and other drinks. They had a blast - and I got one of the best Radlers in my life.
Well turns out the citizens from the land of the brave are generally quite fearful and scared.
Kids here a quite independent.
Wonderfully put.
And this short clip from the movie Bowling for Columbine explains why ;-)
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As an American, I agree.
However, the things she pointed out seem to be more of a parenting difference. She's originally from Florida, I'm in California. I've worked in childcare and utilized similar principles. Daily nature walk, chopped vegetables. I grew up with a garden in the backyard.
Yes, America loves to create fear to further some law, taking freedoms away.
In Nordic countries it’s common to leave the sleeping baby outside the store. Not by the most busy streets (pollution), but in quieter places. Besides, we usually put the babies to nap outside, even in winter.
The meal on the picture: "Spargel mit Petersilienkartoffeln und Sauce Hollandaise" (Google translate: Asparagus with parsley potatoes and Hollandaise sauce). Absolutely delicious and a reason, that you get jealous right now.😋
Maybe you want to check out the video "Ein Tag im Waldkindergarten" by the german tv channel SWR. It's a short (5 min) video about a german kindergarden in a forrest ("Wald"). Kids at the age of 3 to 6 are playing by themselves in a forrest, making fire, using tools and knives and so on. Very impressive pictures!
i went to one of those as a kid! it was very fun. even today, going into the forest as an adult and playing games with sticks and rocks is still something i like to do with friends or family.
Didn't know this was a thing in Germany or other parts of Europe, but this is quite common here in Scandinavia (Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark). Here in Norway nurseries regularly bundle up babies in strollers and let them sleep outside for up to 3 hours, even during our chilly winters (they keep a close eye on the temperature) . This is done on nursery grounds. Often the strollers with the sleeping babies are all lined up under covered areas that look somewhat like bike sheds, but parents in parts of Scandinavia also practice this at home. It is not common everywhere in the big cities, but if your cafe is such that parents can clearly see the strollers/babies outside parents will leave their sleeping babies in the strollers outside. It is horrifying to most outsiders first time they encounter it, but it's just part of the culture here.
Yeah it's also good to let the baby hear noises from nature.
my mother did the same with me when i was a baby.. she left me outside in the garden in winter for 2-3 hours
Finland is not a part of Scandinavia
Most people I know leave their kids outside in the stroller so they can see them when they are sleeping. No one would touch them. Yes, we trust our people
I live in germany since 35 years and just noticed that maybe four times ! One time I saw a stranger talking to the maybe 3 year old. I didn't liked it and went straight to the kid and talked to the Man. He felt a bit offended, I didn't know why, because I was just talking, so I guess maybe it was a good idea to protect the child. The parents were far away and came back 25 minutes later.-
I don't want kids right now and my girlfriend is fine with that. But we both would never do that with little children.
Lot of similarities between Germany and Finland. (And I would imagine same applies to a lot of places in Europe.) If you see a stroller outside of someone's house or a restaurant or literally anywhere there's a high chance there's also a baby in there. It's very common to put babies outside on one's doorstep to sleep. Most people baby-motitors so they can hear when the child eventually wakes up.
In general independance is a big deal. Growing up in a small town in Finland I almost always walked or rode a bike to school from the start. Went to the store for the first time without parents at 5-6 years old (with my even younger sister). When we went to the capital city Helsinki for a field trip in 8th grade we were allowed 1,5 hours to freely roam the city before meeting at the bus station. The biggest worry for parents is honestly traffic, so we were taught very early on to be careful around that.
People here in general tend to see each other as equals, and thus trust one another. The social security network makes sure that people don't starve or go homeless. Free and equal education and healthcare prevent people going into debt just for trying to live. With less miserable people with nothing to lose, there's less danger and we can all have peace of mind. Everyone has a chance at happiness. As far as I know it's quite similar in Germany too
In Germany there are literally more than 500.000 homeless People.
That sounds beautiful! ❤ Scandinavian countries have always fascinated me. Germany isn't as lovely though, there are loads of immigrants from less developed countries and it's not safe to walk on the streets at night anymore...
in belgium a trend is to let babies sleep more outside, also in winter cause it's healty, and the scandivian example were they di it in real cold :) ,
there are some daycares that do it now, well dressed of course! not pj and sleeping bag mend for sleeping inside ;).
What she is not talking about is the aspect of "how do kids get to school" ... In Germany most kids walk to school or take public transportation (not those specific yellow school buses, but general public transports - buses, trains, subways) ...
And that is starting with first graders ...
Even earlier I walked to kindergarten as well.
Yeah, i think my mom brought me to my first day of kindergarden and the first day of elementary school, but atside this, i always needed to walk/take public transport to get to school/kindergarden
It is always easier to learn about someone else's crappy history than to learn about mistakes that were done in your own country. I'm glad we learn about our German history in depth during school. It's important to remember.
Our kids were out there all the time, because there were their friends. They went to the soccer field and played soccer all day, when the street lights went on they had to come home.
They went with their friends during the holidays to the swimming pool which was 3 km away from us and spent their school holidays there.
They went into the woods to play, biked somewhere and just left.
There was no cell phone, we didn’t know where they were, we trusted them and most of the time they came home on time.
My grandchildren 6 and 4 years old also go out to play, they go to the playground or play with their friends, they are not constantly supervised. They have to say where they’re going, and they know they’re only allowed to go there, otherwise there’ll be trouble for them.
Children whose school is too far from home and cannot walk the route, so if it is longer than three kilometers, use public transport. They learn this at the age of 6 and know where they have to change to get to school.
If you were unlucky like I was then, the school was 2. 9 km away so we were not allowed to use public transport, we ran 2.9 km to and from school every day.
Our children went by train to the city to their school and that every day, the way to the train station was over a kilometer long, so they had at least a day. 2 km footpath with 12 percent gradient and that’s what all children did and do.
We didn’t drive them around in the car, they had healthy legs and they could run or cycle wherever they wanted.
This never harmed our children, on the contrary they were healthy, trained and had a lot of fun with their friends.
[11:45] - The sauce is _Sauce Holondaise._ A true Sauce Holondaise is made of nothing else but butterfat and egg yolk, seasoned with salt, pepper and lemon juice. This sauce has a very strong taste which goes well with the vegetables. Ham is often served as well with this dish.
I must live in some different Germany than the people in the comments here. My reaction to the story about the baby being left outside was the same as yours: WHAT??? Granted, I live in a big city, maybe it's different in more rural areas, but I would never even dream of leaving my kid outside in the stroller. Kids go missing here too. Call me paranoid, I'd never risk it. But I've also never seen anyone do that, ever. Closest thing I'd witnessed would be a mom leaving the stroller a couple meters away so she could reach something where a stroller wouldn't fit, like in a supermarket or something. Which is still annoying because often the stroller would end up blocking half the aisle, but at least the baby is not in danger.
I am a Jamaican that also left my children outside but, I live in the countryside.
Kids are part of society so they go everywhere with their parents...so you learn to behave...but even if child has a meltdown nobody shames you. Kids have meltdowns you deal with it and get back to life...
Bars are not dance clubs.. There just a place to grab a beer and have lunch.. So ofcourse kids are welcome...a beer is no different than a coffee...
As an Austrian (Austria being the borth country of Hitler and having been part of Germany during WW2) we were taught about WW2 and concentration camps in primary school. I don't remember my exact age but I certainly was younger than ten years old. Our teacher tried to phrase it in ways so we could understand it as well, which basically boiled down to telling us that a lot of people from different countries got killed and - I kid you not - she basically poointed at several students like "They wouldn't have liked you, so you would probably have died, you, you and you."
As a kid I didn't understand the gravity of the lesson but it was very effective to bring the message across that we as a country had done something very bad, especially because it would have been most of my friends who'd have died according to my teacher. I don't know how or at what age other kids in Austria or Germany were taught about WW2 and all that came with it, but I barely remember a time where I didn't know about it. A lot of people don't even dare putting out flags of their own country (afaik this concerns Germany as well) since it's seen as an almost fascist thing to show off the Austrian or German flag and be proud of our countries. And while I am not the most patriotic person, it came as a really big culture shock to see other nations have their flags everywhere, even privately, and be openly proud of their history. It makes me somewhat sad that we can't say the same about our history - or rather are not allowed to - even though it goes far becond the world wars. We had history before and after that as well, interesting history that greatly shaped our culture as it is today, but any type of patriotism or pride regarding that is immediately tainted by the World Wars.
I did the same with my daughter (in the Netherlands) hop in a shop and leave the strakker outside, she is 49 years now! Also she was born in November and she slept the best in the strawler outside on the balconny
When I was a kid and my parents and I went on vacation, I certainly was with them at bars and sat next to or between them. I have never thought that would be a problem somewhere else.
Here in Europe that's totally normal.
I'm from Armenia but our lifestyle is quite "european"although it doesn't really matter, we eat raw vegetables too,if I'm hungry I'll just eat some carrots, tomatoes, simple salad, I was shocked to know you fry everything 😭 we learn about our ancient history in depth from the age of 11 and when someone doesn't know smth fr, its considered as shameful. We go to excursions every single year with our classmates,teacher and some parents to historical places and it's really fun. Also We do many activities outside of the kindergarten, I remember we used to go to Amusement parks a lot. Its normal and common to see young kids like 3-4 year olds playing outside while their parents are at home doing chores or whatever chilling. And taking the kid away from their parent is uncommon, unimaginable, if it happens then the parents are extremely crazy that they ruin the kid's life.
You see young children (and I mean 6 or 7) walking to school on their own and home again daily here. It's not unusual. The thing is, we all look out for children on the streets. When I'm walking to the shops, when schools are let out, I'm keeping an eye on the kids around me. I think most people do.
BTW Asparagus here, when in season, is delicious - absolutely delicious.
I took 12/13 year olds to the Alps for hiking ( Schullandheim) and 15/16 year olds 2 000 km away to Malta (Abschlussfahrt by plane,lol) or closer to home to Köln or Berlin and the same age group to Dachau .
And except for minor incidences it was NO BIG DEAL !
i was 6 weeks away from home as i was 12yo at the north see..nothing happened..obviesly.
We were just a bunch of teenager loving to get a taste of independence.
it was awesome...good times!!!
I was traveling around Europe by Inter Rail at the age of 15. Admittedly, I had two 18 year old companions and we had a lot of fun.
I know leaving the baby outside. I think it's something we do more on the countryside of Germany. Every human body got better sleep when the air u breath is fresh and with a lower temperature around. I'm living near the black forest and I see it often.
Something u might see everywhere in Germany are rows of children, hand in hand, standing in two-pair formations and walking between the "Kindergärtner/Erzieher" (educators). One in the front and two at the end of the row or with someone walking in the middle
Thanks for this interesting perspective 😊 I’m German and i really love how we are able to lern so much about our own cultures, when we listen to people with different background ^^
1. As I understood, the mother watched her child, so it was kind of attended 😅
2. I’m quite confused what she means… if you’re in the restaurant and drink a glass of wine or something is that a bar in the US? Cause you usually don’t bring your kids to bars in Germany (like where you mainly drink alcohol in the evening)
3. The sauce with the asparagus is a hollandaise and even though I’m German… green asparagus is wayyy tastier than white one 😅 and vegetables are just so tasty 😋 but I don’t feel like Germans eat that much of them 😂
4. Germany is quite small (size wise, it’s just very full 😂)
5. It’s so important to learn about history as early as possible to prevent it from happening again!!
i assumed she mend at normal kid times, so before 20:00 ...
so it seems really ridiculous to me.. you can't drink a beer at a.. terrace outside in the sun with a bar?
Even normal bars could be having children there. Especially when they are pretty little, they just get a soda or water for your child.
We also have a lot of festivals that you might know as oktoberfest. And there is obviously alcohol consumed. And kids will play there where the parents drink
When I first moved to Germany in the 1970s, a neighbor gave me a German book about childcare from the 1950s. One of the suggestions was to let the (warmly dressed) baby nap in their stroller in the garden/on the balcony for a few hours every afternoon. It was all about fresh air and strengthening the baby's body's own immune system. They also mentioned leaving babies to sleep outside of cafes, etc., if you happened to stop for a coffee while shopping in town.
I also remember reading about a well-publicized case in former East Germany of a baby left outside actually being kidnapped. The case was so well-publicized precisely because kidnapping a baby left outside - and this was only one of several strollers lined up outside the cafe - was so very, very unusual.
About taking children to bars: you can actually drink wine and beer at 14 if you're with a parent/ legal guardian.
From the one year I spend at an American high school i feel like Americans glorify the "good" things they did in history class but skim over the bad stuff. We talked about WWII for ages but Civil War for example was like "There were slaves and then there was a war and everyone was free and happy afterwards".
Here in Germany
Children and young people under the age of 16 are not allowed to consume alcohol in public; from their 16th birthday they are allowed to drink beer, wine or sparkling wine. Exceptions only apply to young people aged 14 and over if their parents are present. Then they can drink beer, wine or champagne.
especially in the "Spargelzeit" or Aspargus Time, we eat a lot of it, you can buy it at little stands near the fields or the street.
Normaly we eat Boiled Aspargus with Boiled Potatoes (with Rosemary is the best) and a little pine of Sauce Hollondaise.
Its the white sauce you questioning yourself about, and its mostly butter/fat inside, so it works perfect in combination
To add to that, it is also common to eat wet cured ham with Asparagus and potatoes.
The difference between withe and green asparagus : it's white when it's picked before it breaks surface. As soon as it's above ground, it gets a bit harder and turns green. The sauce mostly served with it is any variation of Sauce Hollandaise, which is a buttersauce with egg and oil.
It is so delicious! I am always happy about the Spargelzeit.
I´m German and a Mother, AND I WOULD NEVER LEFT MY BABY ALONE ON THE STREET! Never
I am also a German and have never seen a child waiting outside alone. Wtf!
Just depending on region and cities.
Dito
Sie hat das Kind doch die ganze Zeit im Blick gehabt (sagt Haley doch noch als Ergänzung) und wäre innerhalb von drei Sekunden beim Kind gewesen. Das ist nicht unntypisch hier bei uns. Niemand würde ein Baby UNBEAUFSICHTIGT allein lassen. Das ist ja klar.
I would say it depends on the size of the town you are living in. I live in a small town with a few more than a 1000 inhabitants. It is totally normal to "leave" a baby outside of a Cafe when it's wrapped up and sleeping. You are less then 10meters away and are there in a few seconds if needed. During the time hardly anybody is passing by the Cafe. I can't see something wrong about that🤷♂️
Regarding the concentration camp: its kinda of a rule that you have to go at least once while in school 9th grade is what my school said (14-15 year olds), but we had to skip because of covid. Went to Buchenwald in 12th grade (17-18 year olds) and just came back from Auschwitz this year (13th grade). Going at that age is totally fine, I believe. What really shooked us were the elementary school kids in Auschwitz. If I remember correctly, its mandatory for the students at the school in Oswiecim (town where Auschwitz is) to go once a year, but having 8 year olds run around a concentration camp felt a bit wrong.
I mean, my parents took me to Dachau when I was a few month old, but I dont remember that....
Oh yeah and the outsourcing has got something to do with getting to know the „real world“ as she explains. It’s important here to allow kids to learn how to connect yourself with what the surrounding society offers culturally. And since not every family has the resources to do that with the kids, it’s the Kindergärten and schools that offer the part (for small money or for free). It’s part of the official„Bildungsauftrag“ (educational mission)
About those field trips. The Kindergarten (3 to 6 year olds) aim to prepare kids to be a part of society and to teach things they will need as an adult. And adults do things like take a bus or go for a walk. By the way, german kids in the bus are pretty well behaved because they do it often. The first time not so much. It probably also helps that the age groups are mixed. So the younger kids learn from the older ones.
In german schools its regular to have one day (up to 1 week depends of the age of the Kids) per Year where you go for something like Dachau/Bergenbelsen and other cultural and historical areas for "Outside Studys" and later you have to write an essay about it :) i loved it as a kid, learned a lot during these days outside of the school area