Why Wouldn’t You Put Your Wind Farm In the Windiest Place?
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Wind is an ever increasing source of power worldwide, which means wind farms continue to be constructed. And choosing where to place those farms seems straightforward, but it might not actually be best to place the in the windiest places!
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They do more bad than good in fighting climate change
How about Nicola telsa's invention that could give is free energy??? Thats the only way
Yeah, this video sounds bought
Carbon footprints are a scam, you can do your best to lower your "foot print" but that will never outwiegh all the fossil fuels being burned and animals being farmed etc.
I literally have a video about how carbon offset is a scam in my recommended after this vid
I find that you can usually find one on a minigolf course regardless of the wind.
🤣😂
Sometimes I see them indoors, idiots don't know there's no wind in doors 🙄
And it's blocking a hole in one
@@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 After I’ve had a bowl of chili, there’s plenty of wind in whatever room in.
Not on a T***p golf course, because they cause cancer! Lol
I'm very intrigued by these wind turbans.
Fr
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So I wasn't the only one who heard that...
I hear they are very popular in the Middle East
Do you say turBIN, turBEEN, or TURbin?
I've been fascinated about this issue of wind-farms "robbing" from wind farms for decades, but lay-person information on the topic is very sparse. I first came across the problem when I wanted to exploit the stream in my backyard for energy. I could technically do this, but it would mean that my next door neighbor would lose their lovely waterfall. And practically, I'm not allowed to make these sort of changes without permission from the Army Corps of Engineers. People don't consider how wind power works the same way. If you collect the energy from one spot, you take away the potential to collect it from other spots. I have no doubt there is massive amounts of math involved in figuring out the best solutions. This is why engineers are paid the big bucks!
Corps*
I'm not sure why your water wheel would rob your neighbor of a waterfall. Its not like the water wheel steals the water.
I suppose if you are taking it from above the fall and discharging it below, but if that's what you're doing there are designs that don't require that.
@@corthew a low head dam can increase evaporation, and reduce the amount of flow downstream. It still doesn't make sense for the waterfall to stop flowing completely but it certainly would slow it down.
The competition really isn't that big of a problem. Wind will come from above and mix with the "disturbed" wind, recreating the original wind speed. I work in wind, and there's no practical disturbance between farms even relatively close.
The NREL, National Renewable Energy Laboratory did an examination of how much wind resource does the United States actually have. The wind Resource is 11 times greater than than the electrical use is now. So there is a large amount of wind available to generate electrical power. That was counting the areas that wind power plants can be put, because of exclusion zones of being to close to cities or other land areas. From what I remember, those numbers are from the wind on land. Off shore wind would add up to even more. But wind is greatest between North Dakota to Texas. Much of that to far away for transmission. California has only 1 percent of the wind on United States land.
North Central Texas, on a line north of Lampasas and south of Lubbock, has become a favourite area for building new wind farms. The area is the floor of a Cretaceous-era sea, with many small islands left behind at the end of the period to become hills and ridges. (Natives sometimes refer to them as "dishpan hills," as they look like upended old-fashioned dishpans when viewed from a distance.) These hills and ridges make excellent locations for building lines of wind turbines, with prevailing southeast winds in warmer seasons and prevailing north winds in winter. Today it covers the entire area from the Cowhouse Mountains on the south to the Cap Rock in the north.
Really!!!
Then why do so many Texans deny that there even WAS a Cretaceous era🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you!
@@rickkwitkoski1976 Because there are an absurd number of people here who think that JEEBUS and his myth are more important than anything, including logic, science, or common sense.
I, however, grew up in the same county as the late Dr. Robert T. Hill, first professor of geology at the University of Texas, and the man who defined the Cretaceous as a geological period, based on his observations within the county, among other things. (See his "Black and Grand Prairies Report," of 1901.)
A big complaint about wind mills is it destroys the natural scenery. Its why you will never find them in very high wealth areas.
@@cranbers Yes. Wind farms have turned West Texas into one of the ugliest places on the planet.
Science: noooo you can’t build 20 windmills right next to each other
Me playing Sim City 4: hahaha spiny blade go brrr
Turbine*
Well what's good about renewable energy is that it can come from many sources. Wind is just one, but there's solar, hydro, etc, which will work better or worse in different environments, but at least one of those should work everywhere, hopefully.
Uktimately though, I think Nuclear energy will dominate in the future once the technology is advanced enough due to the immense potential energy that can come from that source.
Sunshine and wind are renewable sources. Batteries are not (and I thought mining was bad, at least is it for coal and uranium, huh). Nuclear should've been dominant for 30+ years by now. Politics and money say otherwise.
@@michaelscott-joynt3215 In fairness, lithium-ion (which is also highly inefficient) could be on its way out soon. Molten salt, cryogenic and thermal storage are also options for the power grid - they'd be decent backups, if a hydro dam or reactor has to shut down for repairs or maintenance.
I agree. Nuclear energy has way too much potential to ignore. Renewables are also way to unreliable, and it isn't just the intermittency of the source, but the systems themselves. I live near Palm Springs and there is a giant wind farm here, but most of the time only half the windmills are working.
@@TritonsGuard Thing is, its a lot less objectionable to have to live near a wind farm/solar grid than a nuclear plant to most people, even if the plants are much safer these days.
@@mattvoelker241 Not necessarily. How much land needs to cleared for all the power generators, roads, space to maintain them, and enough push back to make sure nature doesn't try to take everything back? That doesn't even take into account of all the resources that are need to be mined or fabricated (many of them not being environmentally friendly by the way) and thus more land cleared.
I do understand how people want things to be more environmentally friendly, but much of what is used to push renewables is not telling the whole story.
The video could have been shorter than a minute if you just gave the reason for why not the windiest place. So much for SciShow
more time to shill for the latest grift.
One thing I'm surprised wasn't mentioned in this video is the question of putting power generation near to where it needs to be consumed. While high-voltage transmission lines are relatively efficient, they're not perfect. (Maybe one day we'll have a superconducting power grid, but not yet.) A wind farm with great wind in a rural location may be less valuable than one with weaker or less consistent wind if the latter is located near a big city.
There are too many people that go "Those are ugly, I don't want to see them"
@@GoodmansGhost Sad, because I reckon they're kinda pretty
@@a_e_hilton Agreed. This is just my opinion, but looking out at a perfectly flat, uniform landscape or ocean is pretty boring.
Wind turbines also kill lots of birds and maybe bats. Another issue with the power lines is where to put them. This is a big issue in Germany actually. They want to build new wind parks on the coast in the north, also offshore, but they need to get the energy to the south. Through very densly populated regions. Long power lines are expensive, too, I imagine.
@@jaggonjaggon7695 birds fly into windows all the time too. Cats kill way more birds than windmills too. Should probably deal with feral cat problems before even considering the problem of windmills
In The Netherlands we do have them on the Windiest places like at the Nort Sea and near the coast.
🏴 we are going to make green hydrogen and sell it to you
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@@jordanburkert6208 Ah,
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I would love to hear about geothermal energy. I only recently learned that it was a thing and haven't seen anyone talk about it yet
It is a very interesting technology and if you can get it in the area that needs power it is a superior answer to the problem. However iv wondered extraction of the heat from these sites, what are the long term geological consequences to the part of the world over many generations
Search about Sweden then
@@bigjay875 none
Geothermal power is useful for baseload power and reducing harmful emissions. Recently it is considered as a source for lithium to build environmentally-friendly electric cars. And there is even one study about the use of geothermal power extraction to prevent a supervulcano eruption at Yellowstone. Iceland has already drilled into a vulcano (Iceland Deep Drilling Project) and hopes to commercialize the technology that could potentially provide ten times more power than similar drillings not near vulcanoes. This could reduce the cost of geothermal even more.
Geothermal is just dilute nuclear power, but without the safety containment boxes, and with added fracking.
There are floating wind farms over the ocean, where winds gain speed over smooth waters. One example is the Hywind Scotland, which can power 20,000 UK homes at full capacity.
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This is the third time I’ve seen you by coincidence, crazy! I’ve watched your vids for years.
@@luminisant That's great to hear! It's a small internet after all. Sorry about the recent lull in uploads.
@@1.4142 Yes it is, and no problem! Cheers
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I usually put my wind farm where ever the government sends the most wind
I wonder if wind mills can even break even with tax dollars and government mandates.
@@bigjay875 fossil fuels are subsidized to the tune of over 1 trillion dollars a year in the US.
Washington DC sounds profitable.
Can't get over how Hank says turbins
wind farms also have the issue of not being able to ramp up electricity easily when the grid uses/needs more energy (for example heat waves and everyone turns on their AC) since energy plants do not just store energy, as its more of a estimate on a day/week bases on how much they need.
And lithium-ion batteries are a joke when it comes to large-scale energy storage. They'll have to invent better methods, and even then they'll need hydro/nuclear/geothermal for baseload demand.
Living on the Montana North Dakota boarder I have often wondered this…mainly in the winter when we are having -15 to -25*f and 39 mph winds….yes -40*f with 60 mph winds is common .
I take it the population turns into popsicles for the winter. 😁😁
@@malavoy1 if it goes below negative 40° f yes. It’s also a great time to get some free popsicles if you know where to look
So scale down the turbine and/or modify the style of turbine for high wind areas. Regardless, I'm curiousness to an honest, comprehensive studies of how cost effective renewable energy is.
but how are the companies going to make money if they are able to put them everywhere!
@@Sinaeb Which companies? If you can put turbines everywhere then wind turbine manufacturing companies will make bank lol
It's always profitable. Contracts are ridiculous, subsidies as well. Then even more profit from energy produced.
@@sithalo wind turbine manufacturers don,t operate the wind turbines tho?
@@Sinaeb No but they make money making them. So more places to put them means more money for them.
More of them means more money for whoever operates them.
And when they need repairs then that's more money to whoever repairs them.
Fun Fact: in Bavaria, Germany there is a Law called "10H-Regel", which means any wind turbine has to be 10 times it's height away from any estate. Modern wind turbines r ~200m tall, so over 2km (1.24 miles). These Areas, in Bavaria, which r over 2km away from the next villages, r mostly deep woods. So yeah, even a toy wind wheel in ur front yard would probably exceed the regulations...
English question: Doesn't the 'e' at the end of "Turbine" make it pronounced similar to "mine" not "trash bin". Or is this a regional dialect thing.
Sorry buddy, spelling and grammar are not my strongest area's
Yea he's pronouncing turbine wrong
Likely a regional dialect. Like my mother includes a "ch" in "orange". So for her, it becomes "or-in-ch" instead of "or-an-j". Welcome to--for most people--American English were nothing makes sense. Like "pineapple". It's neither a pine tree nor apple. *shrug*
@@FallenAngelHiroko pine apple is not an "American English" weirdness, its an "English English" problem.
@@bigjay875 I can tell...
When you click on the video and you immediately hear Hank's voice 😁😁😁
Agreed. But I like the other hosts a lot, too.
I would like to learn more about different models of windmills. The ones that don’t have large spinning blades. Are they efficient? Can they be a solution for individual homes? Because I have solar panels, but they aren’t exactly productive in winter when you live far from the equator. Or at night. It’s windy most of the time where I live. Although there’s been very little wind these past overcast and foggy days.
My time to shine.
There are two basic variations of a wind turbine- Horizontal Axis Wind Turbines (HAWTs) and Vertical Axis Wind Turbines (VAWTs). Both of these have their pros and cons depending on the situation.
HAWTs are the turbines you saw in this video and will see on big wind farms both onshore and offshore. Their access of rotation is parallel to the ground, hence the HAWT name. These turbines can harvest the most power, work the most efficiently, and also be less problematic. If you notice over the years, these models seem to be getting bigger and bigger. This is because a larger blade span allows for the turbine to generate more power (bigger = more torque = more power). However, no matter how big the HAWT is, they all need wind speeds of at least 3.5 m/s to begin generating electricity. The one major downside for HAWTs is stated in the video- turbulence. Turbulence is typically caused by changes in wind speed and direction, extreme weather, and objects in the wind's path which includes other turbines. Too much of this can cause damage to the turbines.
VAWTs are the turbines you are asking about. While it may not look like it, they do have blades. The axis of rotation for this model is perpendicular to the ground and has typically spiraled blades that make use of a specialized airflow design that generates lift to begin rotating the turbine. This model can begin rotating at lower wind speeds, can utilize wind speeds from varying directions, can be installed closer together, and are easier to provide maintenance to due to the components being closer to the ground.
Why are we not using VAWTs more than HAWTs?
Many reasons actually. First, wind speeds are slower at the lower altitudes VAWTs sit at. This makes them nowhere near as efficient as a HAWT when it comes to generating power. Second, maintenance may be easier to do on them, but you will have to do maintenance a whole lot more than compared to a HAWT. Airflow near the ground and from other objects can introduce issues of vibration, which in turn will cause noise and bearing wear. This causes a shortened lifespan of the turbine itself. Third, they are still developing. As I said, they aren't as efficient or money-friendly compared to HAWTs, but some companies are continuously developing new technologies to hopefully get these producing near what HAWTs produce today. Some cities have started using them to power street lamps and such, along with going on houses so expect to see more and more in the future.
There is a lot more information I have not included, but I hope this helps a little.✌
Check out the RUclips channel Undecided with Matt Ferrel, he has some excellent videos on this! :)
Thanks @@dvwoude :)
@Kelly Dalstok I looked this up for my home and basically they're not as efficient because wind are a lot less 'stable' at lower altitudes. If you live at higher altitudes then this is less of an issue (if you live in the mountains). For alternatives when solar is not available, you can look into biogas or hydro as the elements that goes into these are a lot more controllable however the tech for home hydro is still at infancy and biogas currently requires a relatively large amount of space for relatively small power output (also affected by winter weather) which could be enough depending on the household use.
There is also a big problem of people! For example, in Ireland where there's not much space to put wind turbines, there are some conservative counties who reject wind turbine proposals (due to noise, shadows, etc).
In addition, locations of high in elevation and small curvey roads to get to sometimes need a blade lifter which can add additional costs!
Great video!
Got some Watch-Suggests for me?
Scientific Watch-Suggests? Ya know, like Sci Man Dan or Real Engineering; both epic; or such?
I had hoped you'd talk more about the regulations in the Netherlands. Sounds intriguing!
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I'm a little surprised they didn't mention the vast growth of wind farms in California. I can't speak for Texas, but, for certain areas in SoCal, wind farms are all over.
I thought SoCal was relatively calm in terms of wind.
@@luminisant They have a ton of greenies who want to virtue signal so, they have wind
Hi Hank and SciShow,
What type of power generation can we harness on the Moon, Mars, and other outer space habitats? Can u please make a video(s) on this? Also, how to do communicate with each other on these planets? Wifi? Internet?
Radio waves are the ideal way to communicate over long distance, no matter the sort of environment you’re dealing with
Solar and nuclear
same reason why you don't put a thermal generator in lava. Sure it would technically get the most heat in the few seconds before it melts the thing.
I am confident that we will figure out engineering solutions to put up turbines in really windy places like Antarctica, Greenland's east coast, or high up in the Southern Andes. Right now we can best use steady but not too high winds which limits the choice of location. But it is tricky because we have to find solutions for both ends: How to build turbines that can handle 200 mph? How to build grids that can benefit from unpredictable high peaks whenever they occur?
hank loves his gifs of fungi turbines
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Great video. Shirt and sweet. And informative. No bloat, lovely.
This is why we need to develop better long term storage options. Variability doesn't matter much if you can store up weeks worth of electricity when it's high and burn that off when it's low. Also efficient transmission lines help, since you could better send extra power to other places when it's in high supply.
In Canada on my way to work, there are 1000s of turbines on the farms that flank the highway. Sometimes the wind was so strong, that you'd lose control if you didn't have a strong hold on your steering wheel. Trucks will be almost tipping over. Despite these huge winds, the turbines would literally be at a stand still. Completely stopped. Makes me wonder if they lock them off or something.
My boy is getting older lol, grew up with you and my teacher put you on the screen and i instantly recognized you and the first thing that came to mind is “damn he’s aging” but to be fair so is everyone. Also when I say your again I don’t mean that in a bad why.
When in Dover England, I noticed a wind farm out in the channel. From what I could count, there were up to 30 of them and possibly more because I could not see any farther. I can only imagine the cost of putting those things in the water and then having to do maintenance on them. Seems CRAZY to me but this is a CRAZY world we live in.
Imagine away. Wind is currently the cheapest power method of producing power.
i can pretty easily answer this question in two words: maintenance access
YES. HANK. OOGA BOOGA 🔥
Lol. Entertaining to realise how close some RTS/city builder games were.
Several city builder/strategy games over the decades have had wind power, most use a zone/efficiency effect to simplify these effects, tho only a few recent ones have anything close to the actual complexity, again simplified a couple of ways.
duh, imagine a city builder that got every aspect as close to reality as possible, it would just be unplayable or straight up boring cus of all the things you'd have to consider.
duh, imagine a city builder that got every aspect as close to reality as possible, it would just be unplayable or straight up boring cus of all the things you'd have to consider.
Zing!
I got to the end of this video, and realized there was no more. Not exactly a fulfilling analysis. But, I guess with only 3:36 I shouldn't expect much enlightenment.
This channel is for knowledge, if you're looking for enlightenment I recommend drugs
One of the best locations (proximity to users and good wind conditions) for wind turbines is offshore, but unfortunately while European countries are busy installing turbines offshore, some of our coastal states are passing laws prohibiting turbines in their near shore waters. Maine did this last year and I'm sure many other states will follow. While traveling in the Great Plains recently, it was gratifying to see train and truck loads of wind turbine parts blades, towers and generators being transported to their installation sites in the windy plains.
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The windiest areas may be very bad, but the worst places to put them are where there is no wind most of the year. Ask the government of Ontario about that.
Is this like it’s cold outside, so therefore global warming isn’t a thing? The wind farm areas in Ontario have plenty of wind.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't say, nor did I suggest that global warming isn't a thing.
There were a number of wind turbines installed in areas or Ontario that don't see nearly enough wind to justify their existence. The government could have picked better locations, obviously there are plenty of appropriate places in Ontario. However, they chose to put some of the turbines in areas where the residents did not vote for those in charge. The politicians did this so they could show how many turbines they were putting up but they didn't offend the eyes of their voters. This is one of the problems with turbines that no one seems to want to talk about or acknowledge.
Where I live, the problem is not high winds, but light and variable summer breezes. Most of the time there isn't enough wind to turn a turbine when we need the electricity the most.
Wind Turbans are actually quite technical ey!
Q: what is a wind turbine's favorite music???
A: they are big metal fans!!!
Pretty good 👍
Badum tss
It would also seem that if you create a regulation that limits where you can put a wind farm based on an existing wind farm would also mean that the affected properties should be compensated. That sounds complicated.
Spot on good sir 👍
So the way to fix it, is to time travel to when that would not be problem.
Not really. If you are the first to build a wind farm, this means you must pick the optimal location. Regulations should review this and reject suboptimal plans.
However, wind farms are limited by lots of factors instead. Just to name a few:
1. Support from surrounding population, who often consider it a loss of quality in their view... NIMBYs.
2. Harm to ecology, such as fly routes of birds. This may also zone out wind mills around certain areas. Think of endangered species, nesting areas, or lakes for birds, etc. The foundation you build for sea windmills actually creates a small coral reef, or bank for other sea life. It tends to be net-positive for sea life.
3. Local zoning laws may prohibit windmills, because the land is zoned for other uses.
4. Installation and maintenance difficulties (technician needs to be able to get there safely). Sometimes this requires the construction of access roads.
5. Because of the loss of power over wires, you ideally want the power generation close to the source.
For lots of areas with predictable, stable winds, this means that most optimal choices are limited, and rarely do wind farms compete with one another.
@@HexerPsy on your number 5 point: the cost of connecting to the grid is important. Its cheaper to put the windfarm 2 miles from a grid substation with spare capacity. Just need to buy and install a 2 mile cable. If the grid is 30 miles away from the place where you want to put the wind farm, and the grid is not very strong or already heavily loaded, you would need to pay for the 30 miles cable and to strenghten the existing grid.
@@HexerPsy
Eh, the harm to birds is a bit overstated tbh. Windows alone kill upwards of half a billion. Cats kill over 2 billion. Wind turbines kill maybe a million. Obviously you don't want them near nesting sites but thats not specific to windmills, any development is going to harm them.
Why don't we just build new ASMR plants to make our power. They are a green energy solution no one talks about.
or even better BTNS
Smooth ad transition at the end there, if only I had extra money
We have a windmill farm so big it shows up on weather radars as ‘rain’ lol
The carbon problem started with the plow . When we realize that keeping the water on the land and not in the ocean makes a huge diffrence
I'm doubling my carbon footprint to help offset the wind farm, 2022 is awesome!!!
Wave power is more constant, right?
That thumbnail got me crackin up
This is also why wind and solar will not replace fossil fuels anytime soon. That variability problem is too much of disadvantage.
Nuclear is the answer.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Nuclear will not last forever either. Eventually we will need to fully redesign society around the limitations of a renewable energy grid.
@@Miranox2 Over 200 years based on currently known Uranium reserves and no FBR and MSR shenanigans. I'd say that FBRs could get that up 80x from turning otherwise useless U-238 into fissile materials. In comparison we have just 50 years of Natural Gas reserves that Variable Renewables wont cut much its consumption and without Coal or Nuclear will potentially even increase its consumption.
Solar energy and wind energy are just too variable and unpredictable. The kind of installed capacity in both generation, storage and connectivity would be absolutely ridiculous. Of all renewable energy sources only Geothermal, Tidal and Hydro are worth the hassle.
@@AlldaylongRock We will have to use all sources if there's isn't some paradigm shift like sustained fusion reactors.
@@Miranox2 Nuclear energy will be available for millions of years, lol.
Rest assured, you'll be long dead.
Meanwhile, millions of innocent birds will die, ruining the ecosystem. Greed drives this windmill crap!
Yas A+ for my Neatherlands bros. They have a lot of solutions already for how the world can step into a needed and more eco friendly future. I'm in love with their infastructure!
Thank you
The money shot is finding the most consistent wind within a velocity range on a year round basis. West Texas has what ha been said to be the largest wind farms on the world. Thats when you count total wattage generated across all contractors. The number of turbines is massive. BTW, they are wind turbines not wind mills. Windmills grind grains.
One thing that is lacking from the power grid and wind turbines in general is energy storage. Even a relatively small battery paired with wind turbines could smooth out a lot of the volatility. Use the turbine to charge the battery and then slowly discharge that energy into the grid and you would have a lot more predictability.
Nuclear power is the answer, and paying to reduce your carbon footprint is an idiot tax.
Agreed but I anticipate nuclear power to be taken to different level reducing the problem of disposing of waste and possibly even reusing it in a different manner.
Thanks for your knowledge sharing
So my carbon footprint is 7.4 tons per year(more than half the average for Canada and the US)... Just for living, eating meat, walking everywhere and live someplace where 100% of my electricity is made through Hydro Power(like 99%), wind and solar(the remaining 1%).
"If everyone lived like you, we’d warm the earth by 1.5°C within 7 years ."
Man, that website trying to make me feel bad just for living, not wanting to die during the cold -40˚C winter months in Canada just because the "world average" is 4.9 tons per year. Of course if you include countries that don't need heating will consume a lot less.
The carbon footprint was initially just a marketing scheme by bp to blame the consumer for not fixing climate change instead of doing anything themselves. Honestly shocked to see they included it right at the start of the video. Making the individual responsible without assessing global corporations is basically the worst mistake you can make in this crisis (and is exactly the mistake oil/gas companies want you to make). But it seems like the term caught on too hard already, which is sad to see
If your power is 99% hydro, is there no way for you to heat your home with electricity? Or install additional insulation to the walls, roof, etc?
Behind my house is a 300' river wall that goes up to interior Alaska. When the severe cold overflows the pass, it roars down the river valley into my turbines. A recent 5-day no clouds hurricane blast of winds amplified by the cliff bank sent my turbines off of the pole and 'gone'. (I haven't searched yet). I thought the poles fell, but they are fine. Home wind power generation is too problematic, beyond expectation. Solar is simple without so many surprises, I have invested, happily, in both.
I would like to buy a ton of carbon. How large would that be, as my space is limited ?
I'd recomend them being in coin form. a lot easier to lug around and pay for things.
every house that is build in the futur should have solar roof or a wind turbine on it. THATS IT BABY !
The Dutch rule again!
2:24 just 5% gets 2 million? that means someone is selling windpower for $40 freaking million???
Iceland would be a good place for a wind farm, except that they already have a surplus of electricity. There is also the simple fact that what wind power really needs in order to become useful is a means to store the generated power. There is a reservoir on the western side of Michigan (near Ludington) which is used for this; water is pumped uphill when the power is in surplus, and then used to generate hydroelectric when power is in demand.
"Wind is a finite resource and harnessing it would slow the winds down, which would cause the temperature to go up."
Oooo answered a lot of questions I was wondering about
I expected to hear distribution as another obstacle/challange.. I am sure there are places in the world with Idea wind patterns that are just too far, or dangerous, to practically build out the infrastructure.
Not really. Home turbines can run their excess back into the grid and draw from the grid when needed.
@@rickkwitkoski1976 My hobby is to give scientific watch-suggests, but many ignore me, baselessly assuming
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@@rickkwitkoski1976 you can have small grid attach anywhere but I think they were talking about wind farms…. We had that problem in southern Alberta… infrastructure wasn’t in place for the amount of wind that could be produced…. Years later a large line was put in to distribute the power out to the rest of the grid… in more remote areas the problem would be even greater for “farms”. Small wind generation would be better in these areas where each ranch or farm or community could install a smaller amount of decentralized power generation
@@grandenauto3214 It takes an absurd amount of wind to power even one house. It's just a weak technology.
Wind farm to another wind farm: hey bro, stop breaking wind
Join Wren! YOU can pay to offset your carbon footprint, because the governments and corporations _actually producing_ the pollution sure as hell aren't going to!
Woww thanks! Learned something new today..
I use wren to offset carbon emissions. It's really easy and doesn't cost as much as I expected.
I still think it's just a modern version of the letters of indulgence the church sold hundreds of years ago. Sounds more like a payment to soothe one's conscience.
@@TheRealWormbo that's not a reasonable comparison. Contributing to Wren has real world effects, and while individuals cannot hope to combat climate change our actions still make a difference en mass. Helping to build rainforests and improve carbon capture technology is something that will have a genuine effects in the world.
@@ArgumentativeAtheist Doesn't change that the concept of "carbon footprint" is being used to guilt people into paying money. That money may be used for good things, but there's zero incentive to actually change your own "carbon footprint". Just add a decently sized negative number to the sum and everything will be fine, right?
@@TheRealWormbo everything has a carbon footprint. This is an undeniable fact. I have one, you have one, businesses have one. Larger businesses and the richest in society have vastly larger carbon footprints and they need to be forced to sort their crap out. But that doesn't mean that our carbon footprint doesn't exist, or that it doesn't matter. What we do still has an effect on the world, albeit a much smaller one. Our actions can still improve the world around us.
And the amount of money needed for most people to offset their carbon emissions each year is, frankly, tiny.
How terrible that I've been "scammed" into giving a tiny fraction of the money I have towards improving the world that I live in. Money which I can both afford easily and stop giving at any time I wish. How horrendously awful.
@@TheRealWormbo And yes, if your money goes towards offsetting your carbon footprint then you effectively cancel it out. If I put enough money into reforestation, carbon capture and sustainability investment then the effects of my personal carbon footprint can become positive for the environment over time rather than negative.
Nuclear is the best form of energy
My home town (Palmerston North , NZ) is the home to 100's of wind turbines. It is about high average and constant windspeed, not the highest speed. Too higher wind means they actually shut down.
Smaller wind turbines unlike the large commercial wind turbines that are like 100 ft blades the smaller ones handle larger gusts of wind so in smaller wind turbines you could make it a flexible energy in large winds
I was just watching another video, didnt know i would come to learn a fact about my home country :)
Windmills are everywhere in The Netherlands..
I dont understand. You could then make smaller diameter windmills then you don't need to reinforce them so much but still get the same power output than large windmills in less windy areas?
Vertical axis turbines could probably help.
I love how you guys think this is green but by far it is not!
So many problems with wind energy, why aren't we trying harder for newer and safer nuclear options?
Nuclear is expensive and takes a long time to build we need a cheap and quick option
@@un4893 I feel a quote about long term investment coming on...
Scotland is having a wind rush.
Hopefully enough money to quit the UK and become Scandinavian.
In your dreams. Scandinavians don’t like authoritarian money drains.
@@brilobox2you took the oil money for decades but that didn't count. We're British when we pay tax and foreign when we want some back
you've got the whole UK dependent on the over stoked South East.
The rest of the country can rot.
It's not the UK anymore, it's the Greater Home Counties
@@julianshepherd2038 North Sea gas and oil come from seabeds that have never been part of Scotland, only part of the UK since our territorial limits were expanded. Scotland has never been self-sufficient in coal, electricity, or money.
Really interesting subject, I hadnt considered wind theft a reality before haha
So just a question, because I didn’t go pass yr10 and can’t do math, if the total power used on earth per year is say 600 million terajoules per year, and tomorrow we shut it all down and made all our power from wind and tide - green energy- what effect would that have on the environment?
How will you do Hub maintenance or fix stuff in there if the wind is too high 😭😭😭😭
Hank has been my favourite science explaining channel for years, jeez it’s gotta be 6-7 years now doesn’t it?
Well there are types of wind turbines which natuarlly don't over spin, if you have a place where it's almost always windy it's a good place to put those.
Just an observation, but not all wind generators need to be of the tower and three bladed variety. While the tower and three bladed wind turban is in common commercial use, there are alternative engineering designs. For example, the tunnel based wind turbine design or the Darrieus rotor design and other variations on a vertical axis wind turbines or Nicholas Tesla’s bladeless turban are all alternatives that could be explored.
Yes there are other designs but they are not so efficient.
@@marco21274 What you say might be true today. But there are two addditional thoughts. First, alternative wind turbine efficiencies are not inherently static. They can be improved. Second, some of the present wind turbine designs lend themselves to a more diversified deployment. Big wind farms are a business model that continues to centralize power generation. In today’s cyber attack world, it’s harder to disable a multi-nodal system than a larger, more centralized model. For example, in the days before rural electrification, almost every farm had its own windmill to pump water for house and livestock use. Today onsite, off grid electrification is a developing thing in ag. Respectfully, W.S.
@Wm Schooley But most people will live in mega cities. They will use most energy. I think you tell the very American idea of a farmer republic where people are autonomous. But even the US has changed since 200 years ago. It might be still sparsely populated but this is the exception. If you go to East Asia you will see the future and this is not the village.
I live in the Caribbean and I’m interested in joining wren but I’ve always been skeptical of online charities 🙁
You keep pronouncing it tur-bin which, as a Canadian from the west coast, sounds like tur-ban, like the headwear - we tend to make the short 'a' vowel sound like the short 'i' vowel. We pronounce the windmill tur-byne. But that's just us. :-) love.
Nuclear is the greenest and best choice to save the planet.
@@JSRJS you definitely don’t know anything about new Nuclear power plants.
Whatever happened to windmills near highways?
Also lot of buildings throw gushes of winds nearby, so perhaps that could be a good spot in urban areas
Just an interesting factoid:
Usa= 118 GW installed wind farm capacity (8%)
China= 300 GW installed wind farm capacity (13%)
Wind farm is looking good.
Hank, seriously, it's a tur-BINE, not a turbin, or turban. Unless there is a field somewhere in India with hundreds of men generating power with their heads I am unaware of.
Well you got a giggle out of me😁
Both are fine. I’ve been working around turbines for 20 years and Hank’s pronunciation is by FAR the most common.
@@titleloanman And (as already pointed out) wrong. Being commonly used doesn't make it right.
@@Chris-hx3om you should learn how language and dialects work. If the overwhelming majority of people say something one way, that IS the right way (even if only for that region). I’m sorry you don’t travel much, but there are places where Hank’s pronunciation is the ONLY way it’s said.
@@titleloanman If 90% of the population worked on live electricity circuits, that doesn't make it right. Just because most people pronounce a word wrong, doesn't suddenly make it right... That is NOT how language works, at all!
As for 'not traveling much'... Here's a list of countries I have been to over the last 40 years.
New Zealand
Fiji
Solomon Islands
India
Nepal
Bangladesh
Singapore
Papua New Guinea
Philippines
Vietnam
Brunei
Australia
Malaysia
Burma (now Myanmar)
Thailand
China
Japan
South Korea
Russia
Italy
The Netherlands
Germany
France
England
Ireland
Scotland
Norway
Denmark
Portugal
Azores
Canaries Islands
Cyprus
Iran
UAE
Qatar
Nigeria
Gabon
Egypt
South Africa
USA
Nicaragua
Venezuela
Guyana
Trinidad
.... traveled enough for you?????
Nuclear power is vital
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Taking energy from the weather is the first step to terraforming
Yeah I'm not sure what you mean, this is Terra..How do you make Earth more Earth?
Add nobody wants to talk about what to do with the wind turbines after they have served their useful purpose and need to be replaced - which happens every 15 to 20 years. Right now, they just dismantle them and bury the gigantic blades in the nearest landfill that will accept them with no afterthought as to how that might effect the environment... Maybe a video on that?
what about in that windiest place we use lower to the ground horizontal turbine instead, how would that do in that situation?
Most wind turbines don’t operate in wind over 25 ms. It’s no different than increasing the pressure on a gas turbine. There are bearings that can only spin so fast before they will disintegrate from heat. Also, the speed of the generator needs to remain at a basic speed to match grid frequencies and the blades can only pitch-out so much before the machine over speeds. Most wind turbines manufactured today can couple to the grid with only 4 ms wind. If anyone has questions about wind turbines, I can probably answer them, since I’ve worked in wind now for 11 years for two of wind’s biggest manufacturers.
too much wind makes your fans go grey
just eat yeast and it will go away