This is the first fight in YEARS that I feel like NEEDS to happen. Seriously, I'm not all that excited to see any other fights...definitely not up for paying $50 for some consolation fight. Mayweather vs. Pacquaio is the ONLY fight I will pay for
No Freddie Roach did not want the test to be done the way Floyd wanted it to because he said it would make Pacquiao weak to do it just before the fight. Get your facts together. Floyd knows they will juice up just before the fight. That's waht they did with Bradley and that is why it took them 45 mins after fight time to come out of the dressing room. They are slick like oil and Floyd knows how they play the game. You need to apply some commons sense. The money issue was not it.
lmao as a filipino they be hatin floyd that much for no reason, RUNNING FLOYD is all myth he never run and he was smart but manny and floyd both legend goat
@MrBrandon330 exactly, everyone who knows boxing knows it begins way before the fight. He actually got knocked out the day he gave blood. If a boxer is not feeling 100% in the ring he might as well not be in the ring at all.
@papagunz45 Roy jones had the best lefthook ever,could throw double or triple,but Floyd leaps into it from distance bang,watch it against Diego Corrales.Another thing i like is he jabs the belly then immediately follows with a right to the head bang watch it against de la hoya,he's the only fighter i've seen who does that.i also love how he changes direction left left the suddenly right like against Hatton,in the pocket against Chavez watch the upper cuts,perfect shoulder roll against Ndou etc
every body get afraid of something and floyd is soo afraid of 40-1 record but he said ok if I am gonna loose to manny at least I want to know that he is clean because there is sooo much on the line and manny did not do the test so I hope he does next time and I hope they fight this year
I stand with Mayweather as I always have, its a condition of negotiating and if you are not cheating it should not matter. There has been a lot of cheating and he is justified by asking it, and we will see this fight..next up!
lol right...thats what floyds all about "a challenge". floyds the best skilled boxer ive seen but undefeated dont mean shit unless you fought ALL the top contenders. pacquiao is the only fight people wanna see floyd fight other than canelo and martinez. FOR A REASON. its the most wanted fight in YEARS. for a reason. if there was someone "more deserving" then all this hype woulda have gone towards a fight with them and not floyd vs manny.
You'll usually get stronger physically when you move up, the tricky part is managing the muscle and mass gain without it affecting your technique, stamina etc
I had doubted MP a little on the testing till I saw how they tested mosely while he was dehydrated trying to make weight on hbo 24/7. Only people who are desperate for something would sign MW's contract and let that stuff happen to them. Props to MP for looking out for his own well being.
Pacquaio 1. 7 Title in 7 Division 2. 1st lineal Champion 3. 2nd Best Boxer of all time (Ring Magazine) 4. Boxer of the decade (President Bush will hand him the award in June) 5. Boxer of the year 2006, 2008 and 2009 6. Current P4P 7. Less talk more action 8. Etc But yeah, Floyd is the true P4P king like what you said.
Respect!! I have friends who are from the Phillipines--and a little American dollar goes a long way there. So I do understand that he may be the Saint of the Island. If it's all true he is truely a honorable man..Get in, get money, get out!!!
this is what is really happening. al haymon is an absolute genius and has create a system where through great promotion he makes shit fights look like great fights. what he does is make the boxers the most amount of money while taking the least amount of risk...
When was the last time FLOYD Jr cared about the sport of boxing. Last time I checked, all he cared about was his PAYCHECK. He fights for himself and NO ONE ELSE. Believe that!
I would have a lot more respect for Floyd's position if he didn't insist on embellishing it. Pacquiao was a World Champion at 20 years of age. He didn't just become an exceptional fighter after he turned 25. He also didn't have the boxing pedigree of the Mayweather family and being taught since he was a toddler. Pacquiao came from the streets and learned on the job. He came up the hard way.
Backfired? Uhhh yeah for Pac..... 1. He'll be fighting in March against Clottey which won't draw the big revenues. 2. There's a dark shadow that looms over him now about possible PED use. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Mayweather is preparing for the biggest fight this year and it will generate him the big bucks. What a genius!
he did not ask for the test on marquez fight because marquez is a very good boxer like many others and he ask for it now because manny was just like superman and this is not natural to me at least , and his face look fine to me after all he is pretty boy floyd
So you mean to tell everyone here that if you get knocked out before, you won't get better? Heres the deal, a knock out can do either 2 things to you, makes you lose confidence and get weaker, or makes you hungrier and get better so a knock out won't happen again...
@onlyjoetee I agree, but wanted to point out Whitaker's defense being just as superb and it may consume a little more energy, but it worked for him and he utilized it to a tee. Mayweather's defense is superb. I never brought that up or disagreed about that.
That's my bad my memory must be a lil cloudy. I seen the OTL when it first aired on ESPN about the fight. I just remembered it wrong. I can admit that!
exactly and now we compare him to Leonard, Hearns,Duran, Hagler, De La Hoya, Mayweather....and all of theses guys were great from the beginning..... this is what I been saying for over 5 years..... where was this guy in the p4p talk in 2000 or 2003 or 2006.... only recently has he gained this "greatness"
One more thing before I sleep, most people who hate Pacquiao assume and believe he is on roids or PEDs because of the Mayweather's accusation. I tell you this though, I'm pretty sure you didn't put hard work and dedication to the sport into consideration. Blindly believing something without any proof or and fact is like joining a cult... Pacquiao loves his country and his fans whilst Mayweather loves himself, puts the money first then his fans. I just hope you guys are rooting for the right guy.
They both fought with heart the first time and I give Morales his credit, I'm merely stating that the Mayweathers are capitalizing on this information to get out of the fight and also get into Pacquiao's head. Also, I don't understand why you hate Pacquiao in the first place since he hasn't even done anything to you.. He rarely talks shit when interviewed and one reason he contradicts himself in english is because thats his second language and he hasn't mastered it.
I know what you're saying but using xylocaine is the equivalent of taking tylenol to stop a headache. In the case of Mayweather because of previous injuries, his fists will hurt, so he takes medication (approved by most boxing commisions) for his fists. He can't take xylocaine without medical approval from the commissions. It also only helps him from a medical stand point, not from a perfomance enhancing standpoint. It helps him perfrom to par, it doesn't improve him, unlike PEDs.
@smutton you still dont get it..i said any boxer/fighter not on training or not preparing for a fight weighs more pound above their playing w8... you dont understand this cause you dont have experience in contact sport where weights strictly observed before the fight...you're just a FAN who knows nothing..FM and even MP weighs more than welter weight if they're not preparing for a fight! do you get it now?
Also, everyone reacts to blood extraction differently; some pay no attention to it and some pass out and feels weak... Again, not everyone is the same...
@432cestus80 no need to get upset. I guess you didnt read my point about usada testing being used in the Olympics, mosely and floyd taking the tests, or blood testing already happening in u.s. professional sports; Anyway, I appreciate u taking time & debate this subject. You have answered my original question the way I thought you would
nope, Freddy explicitly said that if the NSAC required rendom blood test, they'd do random blood test. Arum also stated that they will stick to the NSAC and not USADA since the NSAC understands the atheletes and would abide by their rules. I see no reason why Mayweather Jr wants to do random blood testing other than him wanting to weaken Pacquiao due to his past fight with Morales as a basis, other than wanting out of the fight in the first place.
I agree. Everything starts somewhere. But until it's required by the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION nobody has to do the test. Mayweather doesn't make the rules!! He's not a boxing commission!
im not saying Floyd took it all the time, my arguement is that xylocaine can be considered as a PED. Thats why its banned in most states... that and it can potentially harm the user too...
Quite funny how Mayweather talks about boxers weighing in on the day of the fight in the past yet he weighed 2lbs over the limit against Marquez and then refused to give his pre-fight weight as well knowing he was over 12lbs heavier than JMM come fight night. Talk about fair, Floyd? At least apply to rules to yourself first.
PuertorockPuro The fact that mayweather even wants to do olympic style blood testing indicates to me that he is worried about Pacquiao. He has a hard time understanding how Pacquiao can be this good. He even stated that "you don't go from ordinary to extraordinary." Guess what, steroids don't teach you footwork, balance, combinations, left hooks, right hooks and uppercuts, which Pacquiao know has in his arsenal.
I can understand that both fighters want to fight at an even playing field... thats why theres the NSAC who looks over it... just like my statement above, both fighters should undergo the NSAC testing... not the Mayweather testing
Sorry dude I can only speak for myself.... I don't hate Pacquaio, I hate his cult-like followers who feel it's appropriate to call Mayweather names and accuse him of being scared of Pac with absolutely no proof. Furthermore, I hate the fanatics who don't seem to think Pac and his issue with blood is rather a peculiar one. Try being a boxing fan and look at it objectively and you'll see what most of us see that Pac fanatics can't see at all.
Every single commission that Floyd has fought under, doesn't even require this type of testing. With that said, Manny fights under the same commissions. So which test is Manny ducking?
what benefits would it gives in 5 days where he is losing weight? do you understand? if it is out of the system during the fight, whats is the point of taking it in the first place? do you know how your body reacts after the drug's effect?
Mosely isnt out of his prime just cuz hes 38. Everyone's clock is different. A 43 year old Hopkins destroyed a 26 year old Pavlick. Mosely whooped Margario to become the top of the division. Dont try to diminish Shane now since Floyd is fighting him. All yall was saying he was dodgin mosely, now hes old. its a lose lose situation everytime
BUT AGAIN, I never said Pacman cheated i dont know if he is or ever has. Same goes for every fighter. Your argument that Pac has never failed a test therefore he shouldnt take a stringent one is dumb. Who cares if u have a clean record or not it has no direct effect on what u can do NOW. That goes for anybody. Which is why the most accurate tests should be taken for both fighters. This is what Floyd proposed.
So they've made the same weight jump? " when he was 16 he weighed 106lbs when I was 16 I weighed 106lbs but he was a pro & I was an amateur " damn money
This is the first fight in YEARS that I feel like NEEDS to happen. Seriously, I'm not all that excited to see any other fights...definitely not up for paying $50 for some consolation fight. Mayweather vs. Pacquaio is the ONLY fight I will pay for
No Freddie Roach did not want the test to be done the way Floyd wanted it to because he said it would make Pacquiao weak to do it just before the fight. Get your facts together. Floyd knows they will juice up just before the fight. That's waht they did with Bradley and that is why it took them 45 mins after fight time to come out of the dressing room. They are slick like oil and Floyd knows how they play the game. You need to apply some commons sense. The money issue was not it.
All the Filipinos on here disliking 😂
lmao as a filipino they be hatin floyd that much for no reason, RUNNING FLOYD is all myth he never run and he was smart but manny and floyd both legend goat
@@romachenko7558 Respect to an unbiased mind. Much love to the Philippines
i love those two guy right there men great people!!!!!!!
@MrBrandon330 exactly, everyone who knows boxing knows it begins way before the fight. He actually got knocked out the day he gave blood. If a boxer is not feeling 100% in the ring he might as well not be in the ring at all.
I totally agree ... also the time factor plays a big role ...
the interviewer is funny, he is fueling the fire.
That would be like Tyson accepting 40/60 split instead of 50/50. both are superstars and deserve 50/50.
"If he's not saying yes, than it's a NO" - Floyd Mayweather
You make a great point
he beat castillo when he wasn't the same fighter though, everyone knows that.
@papagunz45 Roy jones had the best lefthook ever,could throw double or triple,but Floyd leaps into it from distance bang,watch it against Diego Corrales.Another thing i like is he jabs the belly then immediately follows with a right to the head bang watch it against de la hoya,he's the only fighter i've seen who does that.i also love how he changes direction left left the suddenly right like against Hatton,in the pocket against Chavez watch the upper cuts,perfect shoulder roll against Ndou etc
every body get afraid of something and floyd is soo afraid of 40-1 record but he said ok if I am gonna loose to manny at least I want to know that he is clean because there is sooo much on the line and manny did not do the test so I hope he does next time and I hope they fight this year
I stand with Mayweather as I always have, its a condition of negotiating and if you are not cheating it should not matter. There has been a lot of cheating and he is justified by asking it, and we will see this fight..next up!
lol right...thats what floyds all about "a challenge". floyds the best skilled boxer ive seen but undefeated dont mean shit unless you fought ALL the top contenders. pacquiao is the only fight people wanna see floyd fight other than canelo and martinez. FOR A REASON. its the most wanted fight in YEARS. for a reason. if there was someone "more deserving" then all this hype woulda have gone towards a fight with them and not floyd vs manny.
I didn't hear him say extra ordinary. But I did hear him say "Extraordinary".
jamie fox is riding floydies' bulllshttt. LOL. Very entertaining !
he is the best fight in the world
You'll usually get stronger physically when you move up, the tricky part is managing the muscle and mass gain without it affecting your technique, stamina etc
@SPICFOLIFE...HAHA!! i KNEW that therapist would come out sooner or later..LMAO!!!
I had doubted MP a little on the testing till I saw how they tested mosely while he was dehydrated trying to make weight on hbo 24/7. Only people who are desperate for something would sign MW's contract and let that stuff happen to them. Props to MP for looking out for his own well being.
Pacquaio
1. 7 Title in 7 Division
2. 1st lineal Champion
3. 2nd Best Boxer of all time (Ring Magazine)
4. Boxer of the decade (President Bush will hand him the award in June)
5. Boxer of the year 2006, 2008 and 2009
6. Current P4P
7. Less talk more action
8. Etc
But yeah, Floyd is the true P4P king like what you said.
Respect!! I have friends who are from the Phillipines--and a little American dollar goes a long way there. So I do understand that he may be the Saint of the Island. If it's all true he is truely a honorable man..Get in, get money, get out!!!
just type that in google, it will give you an error if you dont put it in the bar since it wont let me type the htt
curr3ncy86 and MrN0Bias, you guys put forth a great debate... Its so much better than reading those hateful remarks against both fighters...
"tse tse flly weight...?!" haha
the best comedy ever. thanks for the laugh.
The analogy isnt the same cuz it would have to include searches of both houses not just mine.
this is what is really happening. al haymon is an absolute genius and has create a system where through great promotion he makes shit fights look like great fights. what he does is make the boxers the most amount of money while taking the least amount of risk...
Hard work, and dedication man... Thats the culprit
we're talking about a drug testing here, not the $10,000,000 penalty fee
very very well said markandche
damn man i guess u put me in my place, awesome points man, u should run for president.
jamie foxx : "will this fight take place?"
mayweather : "OH, LEMME CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHTING PACQUIAO"
why make a request of a different blood test when you dont wanna work with bob arum in the first place floyd?
good point bro..
I agree, 222 is so much better to have in your name.
LETS START TESTING YOUR DAD AND YOUR UNCLE FOR DRUGS FIRST !
When was the last time FLOYD Jr cared about the sport of boxing. Last time I checked, all he cared about was his PAYCHECK. He fights for himself and NO ONE ELSE. Believe that!
I would have a lot more respect for Floyd's position if he didn't insist on embellishing it. Pacquiao was a World Champion at 20 years of age. He didn't just become an exceptional fighter after he turned 25. He also didn't have the boxing pedigree of the Mayweather family and being taught since he was a toddler. Pacquiao came from the streets and learned on the job. He came up the hard way.
Backfired? Uhhh yeah for Pac.....
1. He'll be fighting in March against Clottey which won't draw the big revenues.
2. There's a dark shadow that looms over him now about possible PED use.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Mayweather is preparing for the biggest fight this year and it will generate him the big bucks.
What a genius!
Mayweather was so scared of getting his first loss that he pussied out and now us boxing fans will never get to see that great fight :(
he did not ask for the test on marquez fight because marquez is a very good boxer like many others and he ask for it now because manny was just like superman and this is not natural to me at least , and his face look fine to me after all he is pretty boy floyd
Havent heard anybody call out Pac in awhile, but people are still calling out Floyd
So you mean to tell everyone here that if you get knocked out before, you won't get better? Heres the deal, a knock out can do either 2 things to you, makes you lose confidence and get weaker, or makes you hungrier and get better so a knock out won't happen again...
the problem with urine is that PEDS are only detectable within a few days after use, but urine does catch everything if tests are done daily,
@onlyjoetee I agree, but wanted to point out Whitaker's defense being just as superb and it may consume a little more energy, but it worked for him and he utilized it to a tee. Mayweather's defense is superb. I never brought that up or disagreed about that.
Pacman already agreed the test HELLLLLOOOOOO.....
I been fight for years...that's soooo true you DONT get better as you age..you slow down.
@amoypinoy
Why not? Whats the harm in having a more fair fight for both fighters?
That's my bad my memory must be a lil cloudy. I seen the OTL when it first aired on ESPN about the fight. I just remembered it wrong. I can admit that!
Who say no to blood test minutes after the fight is scared.
exactly and now we compare him to Leonard, Hearns,Duran, Hagler, De La Hoya, Mayweather....and all of theses guys were great from the beginning..... this is what I been saying for over 5 years..... where was this guy in the p4p talk in 2000 or 2003 or 2006.... only recently has he gained this "greatness"
Manny agreed to a 24 day cut off, not 14. Mayweathers camp offered 14 but Arum walked away from the table.
Tell that to the judge. Skipping a court ordered deposition. Mayweather is asserting his 'fake authority'. LOL.
i really like the interviewer, he is amazing in fueling the discussion and gayweather is taking the bait.. amazing..!!!
One more thing before I sleep, most people who hate Pacquiao assume and believe he is on roids or PEDs because of the Mayweather's accusation. I tell you this though, I'm pretty sure you didn't put hard work and dedication to the sport into consideration. Blindly believing something without any proof or and fact is like joining a cult... Pacquiao loves his country and his fans whilst Mayweather loves himself, puts the money first then his fans. I just hope you guys are rooting for the right guy.
I never seen a man turn down 25 million plus because his opponent WILL take commissioned tests, the same tests that Floyd has taken his entire career.
They both fought with heart the first time and I give Morales his credit, I'm merely stating that the Mayweathers are capitalizing on this information to get out of the fight and also get into Pacquiao's head. Also, I don't understand why you hate Pacquiao in the first place since he hasn't even done anything to you.. He rarely talks shit when interviewed and one reason he contradicts himself in english is because thats his second language and he hasn't mastered it.
after the bradley fight... i know for sure floyd would dominate pacman.. floyd is in his own class.
Miss America is laughing so hard. It looks like she's listening to two CHICKENS LAYING SOME EGGS.
FOCLMAO!
@curr3ncy86 was it Pacquiao or Clottey who is a let down?
I know what you're saying but using xylocaine is the equivalent of taking tylenol to stop a headache. In the case of Mayweather because of previous injuries, his fists will hurt, so he takes medication (approved by most boxing commisions) for his fists.
He can't take xylocaine without medical approval from the commissions. It also only helps him from a medical stand point, not from a perfomance enhancing standpoint.
It helps him perfrom to par, it doesn't improve him, unlike PEDs.
@smutton you still dont get it..i said any boxer/fighter not on training or not preparing for a fight weighs more pound above their playing w8... you dont understand this cause you dont have experience in contact sport where weights strictly observed before the fight...you're just a FAN who knows nothing..FM and even MP weighs more than welter weight if they're not preparing for a fight! do you get it now?
pls tell me what is ''kao kaon sa isuzu''........shell fish? looks appetizing yum
Mayweather makes perfect sense.
Take the test Pacman!
pacman already agreed... when this was happen floyd suddenly said that he want to retire for 2 years.
Manny did agree to the test. Then Floyd signed a fight with Victor Ortiz.
Also, everyone reacts to blood extraction differently; some pay no attention to it and some pass out and feels weak... Again, not everyone is the same...
@432cestus80 no need to get upset. I guess you didnt read my point about usada testing being used in the Olympics, mosely and floyd taking the tests, or blood testing already happening in u.s. professional sports; Anyway, I appreciate u taking time & debate this subject. You have answered my original question the way I thought you would
nope, Freddy explicitly said that if the NSAC required rendom blood test, they'd do random blood test. Arum also stated that they will stick to the NSAC and not USADA since the NSAC understands the atheletes and would abide by their rules. I see no reason why Mayweather Jr wants to do random blood testing other than him wanting to weaken Pacquiao due to his past fight with Morales as a basis, other than wanting out of the fight in the first place.
LOL he didnt even finish high school so he wouldnt know all you need is the urine test
its called espn. i meant 24 days before tha fight. and he agreed to a drug test right AFTER tha fight.
FLOYDOCAINE is blaming Pacquiao for not taking random blood test 14 days before the fight. IRS is blaming FLOYDOCAINE for the called off fight. LMAO!
I agree. Everything starts somewhere. But until it's required by the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION nobody has to do the test. Mayweather doesn't make the rules!! He's not a boxing commission!
im not saying Floyd took it all the time, my arguement is that xylocaine can be considered as a PED. Thats why its banned in most states... that and it can potentially harm the user too...
But later on he did agree to random testing. And when he did the problem was with the split.
Quite funny how Mayweather talks about boxers weighing in on the day of the fight in the past yet he weighed 2lbs over the limit against Marquez and then refused to give his pre-fight weight as well knowing he was over 12lbs heavier than JMM come fight night.
Talk about fair, Floyd? At least apply to rules to yourself first.
PuertorockPuro The fact that mayweather even wants to do olympic style blood testing indicates to me that he is worried about Pacquiao. He has a hard time understanding how Pacquiao can be this good. He even stated that "you don't go from ordinary to extraordinary." Guess what, steroids don't teach you footwork, balance, combinations, left hooks, right hooks and uppercuts, which Pacquiao know has in his arsenal.
Foxx knows jack about boxing!
I can understand that both fighters want to fight at an even playing field... thats why theres the NSAC who looks over it... just like my statement above, both fighters should undergo the NSAC testing... not the Mayweather testing
Sorry dude I can only speak for myself.... I don't hate Pacquaio, I hate his cult-like followers who feel it's appropriate to call Mayweather names and accuse him of being scared of Pac with absolutely no proof. Furthermore, I hate the fanatics who don't seem to think Pac and his issue with blood is rather a peculiar one.
Try being a boxing fan and look at it objectively and you'll see what most of us see that Pac fanatics can't see at all.
"tse tse flly weight...?!"
you are right HGH does not show on urine samples, but manny did say they can take blood right after the fight
Every single commission that Floyd has fought under, doesn't even require this type of testing. With that said, Manny fights under the same commissions. So which test is Manny ducking?
I never heard Floyd once say he thinks Manny uses PED's.
turned down a KABILLION dollarz to dodge a BLOOD TEST!!! LMFAO!!!!
floyd makes no sense. he's like "yea he did have a huge weight jump" then backtracks "we started off the same weight when we were 16"
what benefits would it gives in 5 days where he is losing weight? do you understand? if it is out of the system during the fight, whats is the point of taking it in the first place? do you know how your body reacts after the drug's effect?
Pacman gained weight because of McDonalds LOL.
Mosely isnt out of his prime just cuz hes 38. Everyone's clock is different. A 43 year old Hopkins destroyed a 26 year old Pavlick. Mosely whooped Margario to become the top of the division. Dont try to diminish Shane now since Floyd is fighting him. All yall was saying he was dodgin mosely, now hes old. its a lose lose situation everytime
@supermasters1 why u skip shane... shane took olympic style testing
Manny still does not want to take a 40 million dollar test,but took 6 million for Bradley?
you're just afraid to get knocked -out by this little man floyd.
BUT AGAIN, I never said Pacman cheated i dont know if he is or ever has. Same goes for every fighter. Your argument that Pac has never failed a test therefore he shouldnt take a stringent one is dumb. Who cares if u have a clean record or not it has no direct effect on what u can do NOW. That goes for anybody. Which is why the most accurate tests should be taken for both fighters. This is what Floyd proposed.
couldn't tell if Jamie Foxx was being sarcastic with Maynever or not...
Pac never agreed to the random testing, camp always brought up the commission.
sorry meant to write the comment above to someone saying manny agreed to take a drug test after the fight
So they've made the same weight jump? " when he was 16 he weighed 106lbs when I was 16 I weighed 106lbs but he was a pro & I was an amateur " damn money