Im Jamaican, we are definitely raised differently then if we were in the states but beating on a young girl is wild regardless of your culture. Why should she be subjected to abuse in the name of tradition. That man is an abuser and the oldest has Stockholm Syndrome.
Thank you for saying this. I'm Black American so they talkin about the standards I go by, and I usually appreciate other cultures' takes on things but I cannot fathom beating my kids- son or daughter- like some mf that owe me money on the street. I've seen what it's done to my aunts & uncles and older cousins as well as my fellow millennial cousins, and it didn't make them rich, doctors, successful athletes, humanitarians, superheroes, or anything people think this behavior will attain. It just helped them learn & perpetuate the generational/childhood trauma and emotional detachment.
It wasn’t always like that- I was raised in the 80’s and My parents raised us traditional We got our buts whooped. This all changed after the crack epidemic but my parents were good traditionalAA parents who kept us in line and stayed in our business
the eldest son is MANIPULATIVE, hes supporting his father's abuse because he sees himself next in line. he holds the most power out of the siblings since hes the eldest, he wants to control and abuse his siblings the same way he saw his father did
I don't know why you guys are blaming the eldest son. He is a victim as well. His actions are learnt behaviour. He loves his siblings, but he has been put in a position where he can not express that, he only knows what he was thought. He doesn't know any better. Being the first child in a Haitian/ Traditional African family is tough, you are saddled with parenting responsibilities at a very young age. It's sad that the style of parenting he learned was physical abuse.He needs help, too, not your judgement. Their father is the manipulator.
@@diza1926his behavior was taught but he’s grown with kids and should know that a man should never put his hands on a female especially NOT his sister, that shouldve been his first apology. Also, idk the values of their household but the eldest son had a child out of wedlock yet the daughter can’t watch a tv show that showed men kissing? that doesn’t even make sense. everything they said that he said didn’t sound like everyone was putting him out there to blame, he just IS ANOTHER ONE TO BLAME!
Because allot of times he'd whoop them or hand out punishment as the eldest once he was 14 he was running things that's how it is they go out and work while he hold the home down so chores dinner homework it all fell on him my sister was the same way but I don't fault her for that I appreciate the save honestly my momma use to real deal stump us down 😢 and my sister use to explain to us like look if you don't do x y z I can't help you
Got so much respect for King for standing firmly ❤️ he held his ground and wouldn’t be shaken from it. It’s a lot of trauma in this family I think they definitely should go to therapy wish them the best ❤❤
I honestly feel like the older brother is trying to “outshine” his siblings and try to make his father “proud” in a way. He’s definitely trying to be the favorite child or something because there is NO WAY he believes those actions are disciplines.
He is not trying to outshine his siblings. He is trying to live up to his father’s expectations, even though he’s hurting them in the process. Remember they are Haitian, and they have different ways of parenting than Americans
@@MyaVatMiiliterally the reason why I REFUSE to date Haitian men. I’ve seen and heard way too many things that aren’t healthy. It’s very sad. I respect other cultures, but I def don’t agree.
It’s not really actually, there’s different kinds of cultures outside of a traditional American one. You were raised to believe certain things and so were they.
That's our culture for you. As the oldest sibling I remember people outside my family would wonder why I don't discipline my siblings and I said cause I'm not their parent TF.
I saw “Be patient.” “Have patience.” , as they too can leave like he did one day. I don’t think he had any intention of actually speaking to his father about his actions. I don’t think he has it in him to confront the dad because he left before the abuse stopped knowing his brothers and sister will bare all of the abuse with him gone.
My haitian friends and i always talk about how similar haitian and asian upbringings were. The expectations, the heavy-handed discipline, the hierarchy when it came to siblings, and how the oldest were treated as second parents and also took part in the disciplining. For a long time i had a lot of resentment towards my older siblings, but now that im an adult i feel bad for them having to take on so much responsibility as children themselves. If they didn't keep me in check, they would get in trouble too. It doesnt make what happened right or what sean did right, but culturally its just so different from modern american upbringing.
I think the older brother is so conditioned to not fail his dad that he didn’t realize that it was abuse, he thought it was discipline. He didn’t have other siblings to relate to when he was being abused because they weren’t born yet. So he had no choice but to turn into his dad to escape the abuse and without realizing it, he was his dad all over again.
These 4 siblings will overcome this trama together along with individual work. Brianna learned to love herself and Taylor growning and learning what kind of man he can be.
Abuse wether it’s physical or mental or sexual if you are raised in that environment untill adulthood and able to move out you can be become the abuser just like your parents or who ever abused you and if nobody taught you to the right ways to go about stuff they are going to think it’s ok for them To do It in Their adult life and pass it down to generations to generations
I truly feel for the big brother… you can tell he was trying his best in the only way he knew how… “Do I want to be right, or do I want to be effective.” Is a tool which has helped me tremendously to stay grounded and focused when I get into arguments. In the brothers eyes, I think he is struggling because he know’s he is “right”, yet, I pray he has the strength to surrender and to lean more into being effective with his leadership and guidance toward his younger siblings. I know he has it in him❤️
Sean is me especially being African I was discipline mentally and emotionally and physically I got stories for days have sisters I had to be tough and it’s hard to have relationships because I don’t know how to love so I understand Sean because my little sister at one point had to teach her had to be tough but I grew out of it and became her protector but also had to show her what love is even if I didn’t know it…this is scary speaking on it
yes I completely understood where Sean was coming from being African myself as well. Abuse is seen as discipline in African homes but that does not make it right. I am happy to hear you are doing better.
These comment are WILD! I guess I'm too soft of a parent then. I discipline, but not abuse. I was raised by a dictator father, and all it was cause was resentment, fear, anxiety, and a number of other problems. I understand tradition, but somethings we need to move from. Choking, punching, kicking.. etc is too much..
Black communities, American and foreign, dismiss mistreatment of black women and girls. I'm not surprised by these comments at all. They are soft on black boys and hard on black girls.
No sir u can leave them alone I came from sibling abuse an im still huanted by the things I went thru. LOVE FROM A FAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR DISTANCE forgive but move on
Violence is not the answer they need to put their hands down and open their hearts up. Therapy and separation can help them heal individually and as a family.🙏🏾
The siblings forget that the oldest also experienced the abuse, especially if he didn’t help the father to control the others. He was also young and powerless, with nowhere to go. Obey me or else is very common in Africa, or used to be.
I get ur point, but if he willingly to help or understand that the abuse he went through was bad, he would try everything possible to prevent his siblings (at least the sister). Not to go through the same thing.
i promise you they don't forget that, the problem is, it simply does not matter. Having someone inflict violence on you ESPECIALLY physical, encouraging it from your abusive father and stopping ur mother from intervening in the name of "discipline" has left them with their own scars. If you found out your school bully was being beat by their dad and that's why he beats on you, you'd be like... Fuck that gotta do w me?? 😭😭😭 It's an explanation, it's NOT an excuse but he keeps trying to use it as one and justify his actions, that's why they want nothing to do w him. Hurt people do hurt people but it's extremely difficult to hold empathy for an abuser ESPECIALLY your own abuser it's not fair to them especially asking them to be "patient" and expecting them to love him while he ACTIVELY defends the past
Being abused gives you a REASON to abuse, not a right. Yes I can see how he got there (reason), but he has no right to perpetuate that same abuse on his siblings
my heart aches for them , all of them. you can tell the older brother is trying to justify their abuse and he knows its wrong bc he has also been abused but he learned to "accept" it , when in reality he didn't :/
By the comments I know that some of yall didn’t watch the whole thing.. I don’t agree with the way Sean handled things, but you have to realize we still don’t know everything that he went through as a child. He was emotionally and physically abused. At this point it’s a learned behavior that he just has to work on. Admitting he was wrong was a big step. Let’s just pray that this family stays together, and builds a good relationship.
I feel like as the older siblings and as one myself, even though it's our role to show the younger what's right from wrong and show the example, it is not our job to punish; its the parents and I could understand the cultural background because I'm nigerian/Congolese so anything disapproved would've resulted in a beating but again as the older sibling no matter if you even have a 10 year age gap, it is not our job
I feel the older brother is just trying to do what he believes is expected of him by his parents. Be it as it may, wrong is wrong. I hope they change that horrific mindset.
Remember his family is NOT from the United States. I don’t agree with actions of putting hands on her, but have to understand he was raised differently. And he is right about this generation of kids now a days just mad disrespectful
Older brother is INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL AND TRAUMATIZED. I’m the oldest sibling of an African household, got ALL the abuse, and I never let my parents carry that onto my siblings, and if I can’t stop it I’m always there for comfort. Him defending the father is sick. (I.e. my parents have changed in most ways, sound like their father hasn’t. He needs to step up and stop trying to please the father.)
So sad that they are struggling through all this trauma. Hope they heal from this and maintain their relationships. Just a side note, what an attractive family.
I don't agree that just because you come from another part of the world that certain things are given a pass. Beating on a girl, a teenager in that way is justifiable because you're haitian? The oldest sibling partaking in the abuse of the younger siblings? Not right. However, i sympathized with shaun for having to endure the abuse alone and thought it was his duty to change his dads ways.
This “New School” no discipline is really the way to go these days 🙄. Becuz when i was coming up, my parents did NOT repeat themselves. She was watching something idc WHAT it was, if your parent says turn it off, you do it OR get out. Now i don’t condone abuse, BUT Correction absolutely! #DontGetitConfused
your kids need you to repeat yourself so you can hear what you said, evaluate why you said it and realize your thinking process is dumb. you haitian and ya son got a kid out of wedlock yet the reason for her not watching it “religious”. get a reality check. the son didnt even live at the house and the time he was already grown with kids and didn’t stay in a child’s place.
Sean is not lying. You have to be patient to walk away from those type of situations because parents will be ignorant. And because you’re constantly being put in that toxic environment, you’re not going to break that cycle until you make the conscious decision to leave.
Sean is du Lu Lu, but that’s definitely his parents fault. They made him feel like he was the 3rd parent and it seems like his parents beat on him a lot too.
The older brother was just as abused, and unfortunately, he adopted some of the disciplinary stigma his father instilled. The bottom line is that it is never too late to change, and these 4 siblings have a chance to be better and do better going forward. Also, they can bond over the abuse and heal together at different levels with patience and LOVE! 🙏💞
the daughter was watching a random show with 2 gay men and her father and brother think THEY are in the right to beat HER up?! homosexuality is wrong but violence against women especially family is okay?
Shaun was a victim. If you can't see that then you have no idea how abuse works. He has stockholm syndrome which can happen when abused which makes one empathize with their abuser and not focus on the actual act of the abuse that was happening towards them. Shaun has been heavily indoctrinated by his parents to believe that the treatment he received was " tough love " and not see it for what it was - abuse. Yes he was wrong for continuing this pattern and no it doesn't negate the fact he'll need to account for his part but please let's not act like he was not a victim as well.
He’s a grown man now and should be able to recognize right from wrong, however last year he decided to help abuse his sister. FOH with that victim shit.
Just because it’s cultural doesn’t mean it’s appropriate! They legit assaulted that girl and are holding her hostage in the house ! I’m praying these siblings get the mental and emotional healing they need!
The younger generation fails to understand that there’s a whole generation like between 40-60 who had no say when they were younger. The reason why there are laws against things like abuse is because we didn’t want our children to suffer what we did and not be able to get help. When you were the oldest parents/older family members were harder on you because they trained you to take over the family if something happened, that’s what Shawn is describing.
Its just sad shawns gonna repeat his dads actions and he thinks it ok , i genuinely feel bad he is singled out because he was too weak to stick up to his parents and still the pressure of being the oldest sure did break him and i feel for him just bcs the cycle wasnt his fault and he got sucked into thinking its normal while feeling betrayed by his siblings he has hurt .
I feel like the comments are refusing to understand the older brother’s pov was he right of course not but trauma affects everyone differently. And if she was putting her hands on him then she’s not in the right either and that shouldn’t be excused
The older brother is too much. As the oldest you don’t replace the parents so it’s not your job to discipline your siblings plus the dad is abusive so that’s definitely not what you want to model
these comments saying sean upheld haitian household standards but let me hold my mom back from checking my dad and i’m getting the shit slapped out of me. you don’t get in between your parents. sean’s father didn’t keep him in a child’s place and that caused him to distribute discipline that he had no place or right to give.
Did anyone hear Karamo’s analysis? Come on now people. “Learnt behaviour “ Bad behaviour doesn’t equal bad people. He has to re-learn what he was taught 🤷🏽♀️
I think this may be generational abuse/ trauma and since the Sean is the eldest I think his father taught him how to do these things and he just doesn’t know better
Abuse is different from discipline‼️the older brother is praising his fathers action because he feels as if he’s over them or he’s next to have the authority when he will only make them resent him n want to be away from him that’s y he didn’t see that his father brutally abused his sister
Sean feels like abuse is justified if chances are given first. Which is probably why he isn’t married to his kid’s mom. Probably took one time for him to hit her before she bounced. He doesn’t deserve to have his brothers and sister in his life
At 17 She Can Watch That Type Of Stuff Plus On RUclips All She Will See Is Kissing Like He said Once She Went To Her Room They Should’ve Minded Their Business
I don’t feel sorry for Sean at all. He keeps talking about chances before abuse, saying that eventually abuse is justified. He’s abusive as hell just like his dad. The siblings need to stay far away from him
Parents need to realise that abuse doesn't equal discipline
Im Jamaican, we are definitely raised differently then if we were in the states but beating on a young girl is wild regardless of your culture. Why should she be subjected to abuse in the name of tradition. That man is an abuser and the oldest has Stockholm Syndrome.
You hit the nail on the head. He needs therapy himself. Narcissistic parents lead to this dynamic, sadly.
Thank you for saying this. I'm Black American so they talkin about the standards I go by, and I usually appreciate other cultures' takes on things but I cannot fathom beating my kids- son or daughter- like some mf that owe me money on the street. I've seen what it's done to my aunts & uncles and older cousins as well as my fellow millennial cousins, and it didn't make them rich, doctors, successful athletes, humanitarians, superheroes, or anything people think this behavior will attain. It just helped them learn & perpetuate the generational/childhood trauma and emotional detachment.
It wasn’t always like that- I was raised in the 80’s and My parents raised us traditional We got our buts whooped. This all changed after the crack epidemic but my parents were good traditionalAA parents who kept us in line and stayed in our business
@@sconiersclanI hope you know that that is in no way an excuse. Physical abuse is NOT discipline.
the eldest son is MANIPULATIVE, hes supporting his father's abuse because he sees himself next in line. he holds the most power out of the siblings since hes the eldest, he wants to control and abuse his siblings the same way he saw his father did
I don't know why you guys are blaming the eldest son. He is a victim as well. His actions are learnt behaviour. He loves his siblings, but he has been put in a position where he can not express that, he only knows what he was thought. He doesn't know any better. Being the first child in a Haitian/ Traditional African family is tough, you are saddled with parenting responsibilities at a very young age. It's sad that the style of parenting he learned was physical abuse.He needs help, too, not your judgement. Their father is the manipulator.
@@diza1926 we all get that but he knows it’s not right he was abused and became the abuser it’s common but NOT okay or an excuse
ok and he apoligized and saw his wrongs at the end of the day they all were victims
@@aliciaaa6021
@@diza1926his behavior was taught but he’s grown with kids and should know that a man should never put his hands on a female especially NOT his sister, that shouldve been his first apology. Also, idk the values of their household but the eldest son had a child out of wedlock yet the daughter can’t watch a tv show that showed men kissing? that doesn’t even make sense. everything they said that he said didn’t sound like everyone was putting him out there to blame, he just IS ANOTHER ONE TO BLAME!
he did*
I love how the 2 brothers put KT in the middle to protect her while on the couch.
The oldest brother Sean says he got the most "ABUSE" but when it was happening to his siblings he referred to it as tough love or discipline.
Because allot of times he'd whoop them or hand out punishment as the eldest once he was 14 he was running things that's how it is they go out and work while he hold the home down so chores dinner homework it all fell on him my sister was the same way but I don't fault her for that I appreciate the save honestly my momma use to real deal stump us down 😢 and my sister use to explain to us like look if you don't do x y z I can't help you
Ot home will call u
Cause thats what he learned. Its very confusing for him obey your parents or get shunned by the dad and some families do keep grudges
I bet how conversation goes with Sean, is exactly how it is with their father.
King came on the show and said “Wont gaslight me “ 🤣🤣💜💜🔥🔥
My husband went through this very thing & he's Haitian. He overcame it but the hurt is still there. 🇭🇹😢
Wow I’m
So sorry to hear that and I’m
Glad he overcame it I hope he truly
Heals one day
Got so much respect for King for standing firmly ❤️ he held his ground and wouldn’t be shaken from it. It’s a lot of trauma in this family I think they definitely should go to therapy wish them the best ❤❤
That brother is severely brainwashed and they need to distance themselves from him until he gets the help he needs.
I agree and I feel bad for his child that he has
I honestly feel like the older brother is trying to “outshine” his siblings and try to make his father “proud” in a way. He’s definitely trying to be the favorite child or something because there is NO WAY he believes those actions are disciplines.
@@MyaVatMiiso beating children is ok?
He is not trying to outshine his siblings. He is trying to live up to his father’s expectations, even though he’s hurting them in the process. Remember they are Haitian, and they have different ways of parenting than Americans
@@her2c4t that doesn't make it right or reasonable
@@MyaVatMiiliterally the reason why I REFUSE to date Haitian men. I’ve seen and heard way too many things that aren’t healthy. It’s very sad. I respect other cultures, but I def don’t agree.
@@egujugadoesn’t make it right but it’s the sad truth 😕
The brother making excuses for his Father’s and his violent abusive behavior is sad😢
Why does the oldest brother get to co-parent his siblings? Wildly inappropriate.
Hatian culture
It’s not really actually, there’s different kinds of cultures outside of a traditional American one. You were raised to believe certain things and so were they.
@@joem7787even the older brother is complaining about being put in that position
That's our culture for you. As the oldest sibling I remember people outside my family would wonder why I don't discipline my siblings and I said cause I'm not their parent TF.
In many cultures your older siblings are your second parents. Its inappropriate for you and your culture.
Good Lorď...if he's like this with his siblings he needs to be watched with his son...
i don’t even think he’s with the mother by the language he used.
My thoughts exactly
I saw “Be patient.” “Have patience.” , as they too can leave like he did one day. I don’t think he had any intention of actually speaking to his father about his actions. I don’t think he has it in him to confront the dad because he left before the abuse stopped knowing his brothers and sister will bare all of the abuse with him gone.
My haitian friends and i always talk about how similar haitian and asian upbringings were. The expectations, the heavy-handed discipline, the hierarchy when it came to siblings, and how the oldest were treated as second parents and also took part in the disciplining.
For a long time i had a lot of resentment towards my older siblings, but now that im an adult i feel bad for them having to take on so much responsibility as children themselves. If they didn't keep me in check, they would get in trouble too. It doesnt make what happened right or what sean did right, but culturally its just so different from modern american upbringing.
I think the older brother is so conditioned to not fail his dad that he didn’t realize that it was abuse, he thought it was discipline. He didn’t have other siblings to relate to when he was being abused because they weren’t born yet. So he had no choice but to turn into his dad to escape the abuse and without realizing it, he was his dad all over again.
Culture should not be abusive
These 4 siblings will overcome this trama together along with individual work. Brianna learned to love herself and Taylor growning and learning what kind of man he can be.
Love you Karamo❤❤❤ I have learned so much from your show. I’m 73 years old and I thought I’ve seen it all and know it all but I was wrong.
As an older brother why would you hit her foh this episode made my eyes water
Abuse wether it’s physical or mental or sexual if you are raised in that environment untill adulthood and able to move out you can be become the abuser just like your parents or who ever abused you and if nobody taught you to the right ways to go about stuff they are going to think it’s ok for them
To do
It in
Their adult life and pass it down to generations to generations
I truly feel for the big brother… you can tell he was trying his best in the only way he knew how… “Do I want to be right, or do I want to be effective.” Is a tool which has helped me tremendously to stay grounded and focused when I get into arguments. In the brothers eyes, I think he is struggling because he know’s he is “right”, yet, I pray he has the strength to surrender and to lean more into being effective with his leadership and guidance toward his younger siblings. I know he has it in him❤️
Sean is me especially being African I was discipline mentally and emotionally and physically I got stories for days have sisters I had to be tough and it’s hard to have relationships because I don’t know how to love so I understand Sean because my little sister at one point had to teach her had to be tough but I grew out of it and became her protector but also had to show her what love is even if I didn’t know it…this is scary speaking on it
Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you have a great healing journey
yes I completely understood where Sean was coming from being African myself as well. Abuse is seen as discipline in African homes but that does not make it right. I am happy to hear you are doing better.
These comment are WILD! I guess I'm too soft of a parent then. I discipline, but not abuse. I was raised by a dictator father, and all it was cause was resentment, fear, anxiety, and a number of other problems. I understand tradition, but somethings we need to move from. Choking, punching, kicking.. etc is too much..
Black communities, American and foreign, dismiss mistreatment of black women and girls. I'm not surprised by these comments at all. They are soft on black boys and hard on black girls.
It depends on what you mean by discipline
No sir u can leave them alone I came from sibling abuse an im still huanted by the things I went thru. LOVE FROM A FAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR DISTANCE
forgive but move on
I’m toxic because I’m just looking at big brother like, sheesh😍
🤦🏽♀️ smh😂😂
You definitely are toxic because he would blacken your eye after he gave you a few “chances”
Karamo deserves an Emmy!
Love this show karamo is amazing
This is why I love Karomo, he is the wise in wisdom just everything. Here balling my eyes out right now lol then right into stds o my
Love should never be tough. Love is kind. Give your kids peace. The world is hard enough
This hurts😢
Violence is not the answer they need to put their hands down and open their hearts up. Therapy and separation can help them heal individually and as a family.🙏🏾
I agree 100 percent
The siblings forget that the oldest also experienced the abuse, especially if he didn’t help the father to control the others. He was also young and powerless, with nowhere to go. Obey me or else is very common in Africa, or used to be.
I get ur point, but if he willingly to help or understand that the abuse he went through was bad, he would try everything possible to prevent his siblings (at least the sister). Not to go through the same thing.
i promise you they don't forget that, the problem is, it simply does not matter. Having someone inflict violence on you ESPECIALLY physical, encouraging it from your abusive father and stopping ur mother from intervening in the name of "discipline" has left them with their own scars. If you found out your school bully was being beat by their dad and that's why he beats on you, you'd be like... Fuck that gotta do w me?? 😭😭😭 It's an explanation, it's NOT an excuse but he keeps trying to use it as one and justify his actions, that's why they want nothing to do w him. Hurt people do hurt people but it's extremely difficult to hold empathy for an abuser ESPECIALLY your own abuser it's not fair to them especially asking them to be "patient" and expecting them to love him while he ACTIVELY defends the past
Being abused gives you a REASON to abuse, not a right. Yes I can see how he got there (reason), but he has no right to perpetuate that same abuse on his siblings
Doesn’t matter. He’s a grown man now
I'm Haitian, and I'm the only girl. So thankful that I'm the eldest by 4 and 6 years. Ain't no way my brothers could put their hands on me👊🏾
But if you were younger, they’d be able to? That’s twisted as hell sorry not sorry
my heart aches for them , all of them. you can tell the older brother is trying to justify their abuse and he knows its wrong bc he has also been abused but he learned to "accept" it , when in reality he didn't :/
Also was probably doing it to earn his dad’s respect.
king came out and started chewing sean up lol
By the comments I know that some of yall didn’t watch the whole thing.. I don’t agree with the way Sean handled things, but you have to realize we still don’t know everything that he went through as a child. He was emotionally and physically abused. At this point it’s a learned behavior that he just has to work on. Admitting he was wrong was a big step. Let’s just pray that this family stays together, and builds a good relationship.
He probably abused his siblings to earn his father’s respect. Everyone finds ways to be loved by their parent. Sometimes that’s copying the abuse.
I feel like as the older siblings and as one myself, even though it's our role to show the younger what's right from wrong and show the example, it is not our job to punish; its the parents and I could understand the cultural background because I'm nigerian/Congolese so anything disapproved would've resulted in a beating but again as the older sibling no matter if you even have a 10 year age gap, it is not our job
I actually feel sad for all three of them,the trauma is deep.
I feel the older brother is just trying to do what he believes is expected of him by his parents. Be it as it may, wrong is wrong. I hope they change that horrific mindset.
Remember his family is NOT from the United States. I don’t agree with actions of putting hands on her, but have to understand he was raised differently. And he is right about this generation of kids now a days just mad disrespectful
Older brother is INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL AND TRAUMATIZED. I’m the oldest sibling of an African household, got ALL the abuse, and I never let my parents carry that onto my siblings, and if I can’t stop it I’m always there for comfort. Him defending the father is sick.
(I.e. my parents have changed in most ways, sound like their father hasn’t. He needs to step up and stop trying to please the father.)
So sad that they are struggling through all this trauma. Hope they heal from this and maintain their relationships. Just a side note, what an attractive family.
I don't agree that just because you come from another part of the world that certain things are given a pass. Beating on a girl, a teenager in that way is justifiable because you're haitian? The oldest sibling partaking in the abuse of the younger siblings? Not right. However, i sympathized with shaun for having to endure the abuse alone and thought it was his duty to change his dads ways.
I agree 100 percent
Karamo spitting that creole 😂
Karamo is exemplary ❤
This “New School” no discipline is really the way to go these days 🙄. Becuz when i was coming up, my parents did NOT repeat themselves. She was watching something idc WHAT it was, if your parent says turn it off, you do it OR get out. Now i don’t condone abuse, BUT Correction absolutely! #DontGetitConfused
your kids need you to repeat yourself so you can hear what you said, evaluate why you said it and realize your thinking process is dumb. you haitian and ya son got a kid out of wedlock yet the reason for her not watching it “religious”. get a reality check. the son didnt even live at the house and the time he was already grown with kids and didn’t stay in a child’s place.
Sean is not lying. You have to be patient to walk away from those type of situations because parents will be ignorant. And because you’re constantly being put in that toxic environment, you’re not going to break that cycle until you make the conscious decision to leave.
Sean is du Lu Lu, but that’s definitely his parents fault. They made him feel like he was the 3rd parent and it seems like his parents beat on him a lot too.
The older brother was just as abused, and unfortunately, he adopted some of the disciplinary stigma his father instilled. The bottom line is that it is never too late to change, and these 4 siblings have a chance to be better and do better going forward. Also, they can bond over the abuse and heal together at different levels with patience and LOVE! 🙏💞
How tf is he gonna say the girl is fighting like a man , and then treating her like a grown man
the daughter was watching a random show with 2 gay men and her father and brother think THEY are in the right to beat HER up?! homosexuality is wrong but violence against women especially family is okay?
Shaun was a victim. If you can't see that then you have no idea how abuse works.
He has stockholm syndrome which can happen when abused which makes one empathize with their abuser and not focus on the actual act of the abuse that was happening towards them.
Shaun has been heavily indoctrinated by his parents to believe that the treatment he received was " tough love " and not see it for what it was - abuse.
Yes he was wrong for continuing this pattern and no it doesn't negate the fact he'll need to account for his part but please let's not act like he was not a victim as well.
He’s a grown man now and should be able to recognize right from wrong, however last year he decided to help abuse his sister. FOH with that victim shit.
Just because it’s cultural doesn’t mean it’s appropriate! They legit assaulted that girl and are holding her hostage in the house ! I’m praying these siblings get the mental and emotional healing they need!
aw brianna and taylor look so happy
I feel so bad for that first family u can read and understand all of them and tell its not all black and white
The younger generation fails to understand that there’s a whole generation like between 40-60 who had no say when they were younger. The reason why there are laws against things like abuse is because we didn’t want our children to suffer what we did and not be able to get help. When you were the oldest parents/older family members were harder on you because they trained you to take over the family if something happened, that’s what Shawn is describing.
Its just sad shawns gonna repeat his dads actions and he thinks it ok , i genuinely feel bad he is singled out because he was too weak to stick up to his parents and still the pressure of being the oldest sure did break him and i feel for him just bcs the cycle wasnt his fault and he got sucked into thinking its normal while feeling betrayed by his siblings he has hurt .
King still not having him, way to go King, take your time to Heal King!
I feel like the comments are refusing to understand the older brother’s pov was he right of course not but trauma affects everyone differently. And if she was putting her hands on him then she’s not in the right either and that shouldn’t be excused
The older brother is too much. As the oldest you don’t replace the parents so it’s not your job to discipline your siblings plus the dad is abusive so that’s definitely not what you want to model
I just love karamo
these comments saying sean upheld haitian household standards but let me hold my mom back from checking my dad and i’m getting the shit slapped out of me. you don’t get in between your parents. sean’s father didn’t keep him in a child’s place and that caused him to distribute discipline that he had no place or right to give.
Culture difference is something...
This is heartbreaking, it is learnt behaviour. And it seems a culture thing for the first born to co parent the younger ones
Yes Katie! Go to the Navy!! Like now! Get away from all of this shit. You will never have to go back to that house again
I think the older one is stuck in the middle and in those cultures the parents are always right!! That's what he was taught.
Did anyone hear Karamo’s analysis? Come on now people. “Learnt behaviour “
Bad behaviour doesn’t equal bad people. He has to re-learn what he was taught 🤷🏽♀️
Please research the cultural differences before you have an opinion.
I think this may be generational abuse/ trauma and since the Sean is the eldest I think his father taught him how to do these things and he just doesn’t know better
Abuse is different from discipline‼️the older brother is praising his fathers action because he feels as if he’s over them or he’s next to have the authority when he will only make them resent him n want to be away from him that’s y he didn’t see that his father brutally abused his sister
People in the audience just because your are clapping don’t mean you’re right
As a Haitian sister, daughter I understand. Then again they are so traditional
This tradition is fucked up, just saying
Well I’m crying
I agree with the older brother
The oldest full of it!
Abuse is not love, they aren't the same. Abuse is not acceptable you are making excuses for your abusive father no thank you
Love is everything but easy smh
💯
I'm the baby. My older siblings would try to come at me crazy. However, I put them in their place cause you're not my parents.
The parents failed all the children
Sean feels like abuse is justified if chances are given first. Which is probably why he isn’t married to his kid’s mom. Probably took one time for him to hit her before she bounced. He doesn’t deserve to have his brothers and sister in his life
I had a harsh father as well. I avoided beating by not doing what he told me not to do. It works
Coach is so mature Katie needs to get out of that house
It’s cultural and trauma as the oldest
How are all of them not understanding
Don't make it right, but culture difference is so different
If you make children you need to take care of them, its not the children responsibility to raise other children thats modern day slavery
The oldest...🤔questionable. He's not making any sense to me. 🤦♀️🤷♀️
At 17 She Can Watch That Type Of Stuff Plus On RUclips All She Will See Is Kissing Like He said Once She Went To Her Room They Should’ve Minded Their Business
The apologies do not seem sincere. I don’t see any tear from the oldest brother. From being abused he became an abuser.
People in the audience look like they are wicked
She shouldnt be watching it but he didnt have to beat her down
wait is karamo haitian!!?
I thought so to, no.
Nah, I thought so too.
He is of Jamaica and Cuban decent.
You can't beat up women, that's not okay. That's abuse and America don't play that. Jail is the only place who abusers
I don’t feel sorry for Sean at all. He keeps talking about chances before abuse, saying that eventually abuse is justified. He’s abusive as hell just like his dad. The siblings need to stay far away from him
Today on Karamo
Sean has been brainwashed & dense 🤷♀️🤦♀️.
Been in Kate shoes
The older brother is very delusional and it’s alarming.
He doing toooooo much