Great hack!!! I just bought a Hobie today and I wish I had seen your videos before I went out. I was on the boat launch by SeaWorld with no idea what I was doing. Thank you for making your video so easy to understand!!!
Hi Zachary! I'm so glad you found this useful. Here is a play list that includes some useful tricks like how I use that cart to move the PA around on my own and with minimal scratches. Also, I'm working on making more Kayak Fishing vids so if you have any questions I'm all ears. Here's the link to that playlist I mentioned ruclips.net/video/4KW0VmmKvrU/видео.html
@@RomanCastroVlog Roman, I tried this hack the other day. It worked perfectly on a flat surface. Have you noticed any issues when trying it on a ramp or beach with a steeper grade?
Zachary Riggs it’s more tricky on a grade but just lift the kayak slowly. The bungees are not supposed to lift the kart off the ground. They only align the cart with the scuppers before you set it back down on it. Also when you lift the kayak match the angle of the grade. Think parallel with the wheel base and ramp. If the angle is still messing with you then set up the kayak so it’s facing straight uphill. This way the wheels will be flat relative to your lifted kayak. Does that make sense? I think it’s time for a follow up vid. 😊
Hi Roman, I tried your mod then I modified it. I have a Hobie Oasis double yak. I utilized the two pad eyes on it. I will order two replacements soon. Anyway, I found this works better than the one side you did. It pops up faster with two regular bungees on the pad eye and is sturdier.
Great info Jeff! It's easier to thread the cart through with one thin bungee when I'm putting it on while its on the truck. But I do see how more torque from two bungees would help.
Hi MDMADFISHERMAN, The thinner one is 1/8 inch Elastic Cord. The thicker one is 1/4 Inch. I'm going to do an update to this video. The hack has held up well but It would be better if both cords were 1/4. I'll try to have an update video up ASAP.
+MDMADFISHERMAN, I realized why I did two sizes on the bungees. Here is why you need a small one and a large one. When the Kayak is on the truck before the offload you will have to feed the think bungee up the scupper before pushing the cart up or it will be too thick to fit. The thin bungee will on the other side and you don't have to feed that through. Once the cart is in the scuppers put the think bungee around the chair riser bar and back to the loop on the cart. This will keep it from falling out while you get into position to pull it off the truck. Again video for that on the way soon. The video after next.
Hi +Rather B Fishing, thanks for the feedback. Next time I get out I'll record all the close ups and do a quick solo loading update. Hope you are enjoying your hobie. It's a great fishing platform.
I like to carry the wheels on my kayak, upside down in the scuppers behind the seat. I think having a crimped bungee as a permanent attachment will prevent inserting the cart upside down (or the bungee would be trailing under the boat). How about just using two pad eyes, then attach bungees from the top whenever loading?
Hi +Steve Ruffino, That is a great idea. I don't like how the wheels get in the way of the built in rod holders so I just throw the wheels under the cargo bungee in the back. Replacing with two padeyes would be a good solution for your application. Maybe some mini carabiners.
I always just stick my wheels on while it’s in the water. People look at me like I’m crazy but I’m out of the water in 1/5 the time. While they get a friend to lift the back or try n flip there’s over n I’m outta there solo with 200lbs of gear no problem. Then on the back of the truck that’s easy. And I got a cart to hold the kayak at home so basically only gotta put them on from a flat position in the water.
Thanks Alexandre, I'm working on an updated version of this video. If you have any questions feel free to reply and I'll include the answer in the next version.
I did this hack....I found loading on a steep launch, say a lake is just not very feasible. Unfortunately most my launches are like that up here on the Sacramento Delta as well..
Hi Jeff, We have some steep ramps and beaches here too. Set it up so the kayak is going up hill and the wheels are perpendicular to the slope. Lift the back slowly so the wheels dont shoot forward and miss the sweet spot. I'll do a follow up vid on how to do this soon.
Hi Scott, If I understand the question right, no. There might be enough room to pull the chord through the hole but the retaining pin will be in the way when you try to line up the cart on the lift. You have to have that area clear so the pull is from the center and there are no extra parts that can get in the way.
Wouldn't it be easier if you just used a padeye on each post and one longer bungee cord fed down through the scupper holes and hooked onto the padeyes? Than you could just pull the bungee while you walk to the back and lift. You would just need to use a bungee with the right length to have ideal tension when you are pulling it while standing at the rear of the kayak.
HI D O, You could do it that way. I'm not the strongest so the idea of picking up the back of the kayak and also doing anything else wouldn't work for me. With this setup, the tension makes the wheels want to go in to the scuppers against gravity. All I have to do is lift up the kayak and get it out of its way. These days i dont even use the little feeder line. I just push the bungee up the scupper and catch it with my other hand. It looks clunky but it works great. Do you have yours rigged as you described?
@@RomanCastroVlog I just got my PA 12 a few weeks ago and I haven't had a chance to modify my cart yet. I have just been rolling the kayak on the side to get the wheels in it. Fortunately the boat ramp I launch at isn't too sharp so I haven't noticed any scratches yet. I will definitely be trying this modification soon though.
This looks really interesting and I see how it works nicely on land. Could you do a video showing how you get the cart off once in the water and how you put it back on in the water? I don't understand that part.
Great work! Have you tried used this when returning from fishing say at a boat ramp or muddy bank? I can see at a boat ramp with waves washing into the ramp trying to fish those bungees as they're floating around in the water it could be a challenge.
Hi Jerry! It's done well for me on boat ramps and muddy banks. I land parallel to shore so the kayak is floating the whole time when I get out. Then I take the bow and put it on the shore. Then I'll set the wheels parallel to the water and lift the stern over to the wheels by pivoting on the bow. At that point the yak is completely out of the water and I can feed the bungees through no problem. I might do another video on this to make it easier to see. Hope all is well!
That landing gear going through the scupper holes would worry me with a fully loaded PA12. I know Hobie makes quality kayaks, mighty expensive for the risk. That said, not sure if you’re much better off with a Boonedox system.
It's such a hard choice but the scupper holes are probably more reinforced than the sides where the Boondox Landing Gear bolts on. The ultimate solution would be to get a trailer with the custom PA shaped receiver and just launch it like a boat. No need for cart or landing gear. What are you using right now?
I will be using the Boonedox with wheelerz sand tires on my new Outback but it’s obviously a lighter kayak. Still it’s a calculated risk but if used properly should be a great advantage for launching in low lying marshy areas and beaches. Just way too expensive.
I don’t understand why all the videos require hobie pad eye tops for an the extra $30. Seems like a waste of time ordering and money when you can easily just drill one hole into the the existing top and use an overhand knot to secure the bungee.
Hi Jason, You are right. The pad eye tops are not required if you want to drill into the round top it comes with. I wanted to be bale to convert my cart back to stock if I ever wanted to sell it. That's why I went that route. A drilled stock round top would work.
Hi James, They should show up at the end of the video. Here are the links to the videos I reference. Thanks for watching and your question. HOBIE PA UNBOXING - ruclips.net/video/3HmZ-A-LOLs/видео.html&index=2&list=PLHDpec2jze9hAET63k5ZoOben9SofiSoV LOADING HOBIE PA - ruclips.net/video/4KW0VmmKvrU/видео.html&index=3&list=PLHDpec2jze9hAET63k5ZoOben9SofiSoV
Yes, I dont see why not. Just need enough leverage to rotate the metal part of the cart up and get it into the scupper. It should work. Thanks for the question.
I'm still using this mod to this day and I love it. Ive had to replace one of the elastics because the metal hook rusted and broke but other than that no issues. I definitely dont see the need for the BoonDox Landing Gear with this setup. Thanks for watching and commenting. Are you on a PA14 too?
I haven't tried the CTug. This way also doesn't require tilting. Once the car is in I dont have to worry about it sliding off if I hit a curb. Also, the beach wheels are awesome on sand. But like I said. I haven't tried the ctug wheels so I cant speak on them.
Hi Debbie! I've been slacking on THE SPEAR podcast. I have a few episodes I need to edit and get out. I've gone on a few spearfishing trips but havnen't been diving enough. I really got sucked into making videos. :) I should have more podcast episodes out soon. Thanks for the reminder. 😀
Good video you are much better at making a videos than me. Search: Hobie Kayak Scupper Cart Hack No Tipping Your Boat On Its Side. three is a part 1 and 2. I ran the 36" bungees all the way through the tubes. Two hints that will help is aim the top of the cart at the bow of the boat, help with lining it up straight when you move the boat over. And if you want a little more room when feeding the bungees through set the boat on one tire letting the one side of fall between the tires, that then feed the bungee through on the high side. Then move the boat on to the other tire and do the other side.
Hi +Andrew Dillon!! Not better, I've just made a ton of bad ones so some of them are turning out OK now ;) LoL Great tips. Thank you for taking the time to share that with the community!
To add to it, on my boats with my set up the bungees can be hooked to the top of the seat or the seat cross bar if the seat is out. If you want to try to feed the regular size bungees down the tubes as I did it helps to twist steel baling or tie wire like stripes on a candy cane to help guide the bungee through.
Hi Glenn. I travel light. When I take more gear I'll move it all up towards the front before lifting the back. Then i move all the loose items to the back so its not so nose heavy when I pull it along.
If you like this video, you'll like this video Loading Hobie Pro Angler 14 ruclips.net/video/4KW0VmmKvrU/видео.html
Man I glad I found this I have hated coming in to load up and having to roll over my pa for the last 3 years
Hi @Newwt1! Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's great to see this video is still helping people. How's kayak fishing treating you these days?
Great hack!!! I just bought a Hobie today and I wish I had seen your videos before I went out. I was on the boat launch by SeaWorld with no idea what I was doing. Thank you for making your video so easy to understand!!!
Hi Zachary! I'm so glad you found this useful. Here is a play list that includes some useful tricks like how I use that cart to move the PA around on my own and with minimal scratches. Also, I'm working on making more Kayak Fishing vids so if you have any questions I'm all ears. Here's the link to that playlist I mentioned
ruclips.net/video/4KW0VmmKvrU/видео.html
@@RomanCastroVlog Roman, I tried this hack the other day. It worked perfectly on a flat surface. Have you noticed any issues when trying it on a ramp or beach with a steeper grade?
Zachary Riggs it’s more tricky on a grade but just lift the kayak slowly. The bungees are not supposed to lift the kart off the ground. They only align the cart with the scuppers before you set it back down on it. Also when you lift the kayak match the angle of the grade. Think parallel with the wheel base and ramp. If the angle is still messing with you then set up the kayak so it’s facing straight uphill. This way the wheels will be flat relative to your lifted kayak. Does that make sense? I think it’s time for a follow up vid. 😊
@@RomanCastroVlog Thanks again!!! Its been great learning from you and the MMFC :)
Hi Roman, I tried your mod then I modified it. I have a Hobie Oasis double yak. I utilized the two pad eyes on it. I will order two replacements soon. Anyway, I found this works better than the one side you did. It pops up faster with two regular bungees on the pad eye and is sturdier.
Great info Jeff! It's easier to thread the cart through with one thin bungee when I'm putting it on while its on the truck. But I do see how more torque from two bungees would help.
What did you wrap your bed extender arms with to protect your kayak?
Thanks Roman, really helpful😎
I can’t get to the link. Can you tell me where to get the hoop & what part number? Great idea. Thanks
What size is the smaller bungee cord how long an how big are the hooks on both if you have a link that's even better
Hi MDMADFISHERMAN,
The thinner one is 1/8 inch Elastic Cord. The thicker one is 1/4 Inch. I'm going to do an update to this video. The hack has held up well but It would be better if both cords were 1/4. I'll try to have an update video up ASAP.
+MDMADFISHERMAN, I realized why I did two sizes on the bungees.
Here is why you need a small one and a large one. When the Kayak is on the truck before the offload you will have to feed the think bungee up the scupper before pushing the cart up or it will be too thick to fit.
The thin bungee will on the other side and you don't have to feed that through. Once the cart is in the scuppers put the think bungee around the chair riser bar and back to the loop on the cart. This will keep it from falling out while you get into position to pull it off the truck.
Again video for that on the way soon. The video after next.
Ok keep me posted on new video I have a pa 14 an I put mines on a trailer my issue is once i get back to shore
I've really scratched up the side of my kayak even with a towel. Great idea! Please show close ups.
Hi +Rather B Fishing, thanks for the feedback. Next time I get out I'll record all the close ups and do a quick solo loading update. Hope you are enjoying your hobie. It's a great fishing platform.
I like to carry the wheels on my kayak, upside down in the scuppers behind the seat. I think having a crimped bungee as a permanent attachment will prevent inserting the cart upside down (or the bungee would be trailing under the boat). How about just using two pad eyes, then attach bungees from the top whenever loading?
Hi +Steve Ruffino, That is a great idea. I don't like how the wheels get in the way of the built in rod holders so I just throw the wheels under the cargo bungee in the back. Replacing with two padeyes would be a good solution for your application. Maybe some mini carabiners.
I always just stick my wheels on while it’s in the water. People look at me like I’m crazy but I’m out of the water in 1/5 the time. While they get a friend to lift the back or try n flip there’s over n I’m outta there solo with 200lbs of gear no problem. Then on the back of the truck that’s easy. And I got a cart to hold the kayak at home so basically only gotta put them on from a flat position in the water.
That's cool. Is it hard to dunk the wheels? They are pretty buoyant
Roman Castro Vlog just go deep enough n they’ll slip right in. May have to get about waste deep. But bring a towel and no problem!
what length is the bungee
you pull up...... i have a pa 14
Hi! It's about 1 to 1.5 foot long.
After watching this I’ve decided to get the Boonedox.
Good luck with them. How was the install?
Good idea, tks!
Thanks Alexandre, I'm working on an updated version of this video. If you have any questions feel free to reply and I'll include the answer in the next version.
Hi man! I dont found the plug!
Can you sand me the link?
I did this hack....I found loading on a steep launch, say a lake is just not very feasible. Unfortunately most my launches are like that up here on the Sacramento Delta as well..
Hi Jeff, We have some steep ramps and beaches here too. Set it up so the kayak is going up hill and the wheels are perpendicular to the slope. Lift the back slowly so the wheels dont shoot forward and miss the sweet spot. I'll do a follow up vid on how to do this soon.
That’s a smart idea!I just don’t like dominating the ramp when it’s busy and a boat might want to squeeze in...but I’ll try it
Just wondering, on the side of the small bungee, couldn't you just add the para cord in with the cord that holds the retaining pin too?
Hi Scott, If I understand the question right, no. There might be enough room to pull the chord through the hole but the retaining pin will be in the way when you try to line up the cart on the lift. You have to have that area clear so the pull is from the center and there are no extra parts that can get in the way.
@@RomanCastroVlog Thanks for your response.
I've been using the same hack since Ive owned my Compass. Great video!
Thanks +Sporty Chop, I almost didn't make this video but it's such a good trick.
Any wear or damage to the scupper holes after a year?
No damage or wear so far.
Wouldn't it be easier if you just used a padeye on each post and one longer bungee cord fed down through the scupper holes and hooked onto the padeyes? Than you could just pull the bungee while you walk to the back and lift. You would just need to use a bungee with the right length to have ideal tension when you are pulling it while standing at the rear of the kayak.
HI D O,
You could do it that way. I'm not the strongest so the idea of picking up the back of the kayak and also doing anything else wouldn't work for me. With this setup, the tension makes the wheels want to go in to the scuppers against gravity. All I have to do is lift up the kayak and get it out of its way.
These days i dont even use the little feeder line. I just push the bungee up the scupper and catch it with my other hand.
It looks clunky but it works great.
Do you have yours rigged as you described?
@@RomanCastroVlog I just got my PA 12 a few weeks ago and I haven't had a chance to modify my cart yet. I have just been rolling the kayak on the side to get the wheels in it. Fortunately the boat ramp I launch at isn't too sharp so I haven't noticed any scratches yet. I will definitely be trying this modification soon though.
Nice video. Thanks
Getting it out is another story . I do same way works great but have to tip to get to shore when loaded to heavy for me to lift a pa 14!
Tip if it's too heavy is one option. Have you tried moving everything off or moving it to the front before trying to put it on the cart?
Beautiful modification brother, looks awesome
Thank you sir! I'll be hitting Hodges for a Teams Yak friendly tourney tomorrow. Should be fun to get back on the fresh water.
This looks really interesting and I see how it works nicely on land. Could you do a video showing how you get the cart off once in the water and how you put it back on in the water? I don't understand that part.
Hi Larry, the wheels go in and out before you get in the water. That said I'll get a video shot next time I'm out.
what if you have all the gears in the kayak.. that would be so heavy
Clever! Nice job!
Thanks Kayak Fishing Adventures. Not my idea but I did make some improvements on it
super technique, très pratique
Thanks Andy. Have you tried this?
@@RomanCastroVlog not yet but it will not be long
Great work! Have you tried used this when returning from fishing say at a boat ramp or muddy bank? I can see at a boat ramp with waves washing into the ramp trying to fish those bungees as they're floating around in the water it could be a challenge.
Hi Jerry! It's done well for me on boat ramps and muddy banks. I land parallel to shore so the kayak is floating the whole time when I get out. Then I take the bow and put it on the shore. Then I'll set the wheels parallel to the water and lift the stern over to the wheels by pivoting on the bow. At that point the yak is completely out of the water and I can feed the bungees through no problem. I might do another video on this to make it easier to see. Hope all is well!
Ok that IS a neat hack
Thanks!
I'd still get the boondox landing gear
Boondox Landing Gear looks awesome. To each his own. :)
But very informative vid
Thanks Wayne
I thought that too until I saw you had to do drilling into your kayak. Never a fan of extra holes.
Thanks for this mod. I will try this and prevent from taking anything out of my kayak hopefully plus not scratching the side.
That landing gear going through the scupper holes would worry me with a fully loaded PA12. I know Hobie makes quality kayaks, mighty expensive for the risk. That said, not sure if you’re much better off with a Boonedox system.
It's such a hard choice but the scupper holes are probably more reinforced than the sides where the Boondox Landing Gear bolts on. The ultimate solution would be to get a trailer with the custom PA shaped receiver and just launch it like a boat. No need for cart or landing gear. What are you using right now?
I will be using the Boonedox with wheelerz sand tires on my new Outback but it’s obviously a lighter kayak. Still it’s a calculated risk but if used properly should be a great advantage for launching in low lying marshy areas and beaches. Just way too expensive.
I may not have a kayak but I still found this video extremely informative!
Hi Josh! I you ever want to give yak fishing a go let me know. You can borrow my Kraken if you dont mind paddling. :)
Roman Castro Vlog once my foot heals I’ll definitely let you know! Thank you!
Nice, like this idea...thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching Anthony!
Good hack. The door mat is a good idea too.
Thanks Jaelyn
Интересный способ. Класс!
Спасибо
Great idea Roman. 😀
Not my idea on the concept but I did put my spin on it. Thanks for watching!!
I don’t understand why all the videos require hobie pad eye tops for an the extra $30. Seems like a waste of time ordering and money when you can easily just drill one hole into the the existing top and use an overhand knot to secure the bungee.
Hi Jason, You are right. The pad eye tops are not required if you want to drill into the round top it comes with. I wanted to be bale to convert my cart back to stock if I ever wanted to sell it. That's why I went that route. A drilled stock round top would work.
Where are the icons to go to your other videos?
Hi James,
They should show up at the end of the video. Here are the links to the videos I reference. Thanks for watching and your question.
HOBIE PA UNBOXING - ruclips.net/video/3HmZ-A-LOLs/видео.html&index=2&list=PLHDpec2jze9hAET63k5ZoOben9SofiSoV
LOADING HOBIE PA - ruclips.net/video/4KW0VmmKvrU/видео.html&index=3&list=PLHDpec2jze9hAET63k5ZoOben9SofiSoV
Neat trick mate
Thanks Daniel
nice mod, I dread turning mine on side when loading by myself, great vid.
Thanks Cory! I knew i wasn't the only one. Thanks for watching.
Amazing. That's cool!
Genuis
Almost seems easier to just turn it on the side and put them in lol you have to take out most things when unloading and loading anyways
Do you think that mod will work on hobie outback?
Yes, I dont see why not. Just need enough leverage to rotate the metal part of the cart up and get it into the scupper. It should work. Thanks for the question.
Very informative videos. If the boondocks voids the warranty Ill probably go the same way and gets this setup, too much money to gamble it.
I'm still using this mod to this day and I love it. Ive had to replace one of the elastics because the metal hook rusted and broke but other than that no issues. I definitely dont see the need for the BoonDox Landing Gear with this setup.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Are you on a PA14 too?
Damn nice house, nice car, nice rods, nice kayak, nice production studio.. you must be a doctor.
Hi Turtlemilk, hard work and I sold my STI to get the truck and kayak remember? ;)
Nicely produced video. Why not use two padeyes and two crimped bungees? Maybe I'm missing something.
Hi John, Two padeyes would be cleaner. I didn't want to mess up the original cover with the pin hole so i just did one side.
Thanks for the video!!!!
Hi! Thanks for stopping by. Are you on a Hobie? This hack should work on any kayak with a scupper cart.
@@RomanCastroVlog Yes, I have a 2016 Outback which I always tilted but I'm waiting for my 2019 Outback to come in and I don't want to tilt it!
Ah cool. Yeah let me know if you have any questions when you get it. Thanks for watching!
Why not just use the Ctug, you can lift the kayak full of gear and place it on the cart without tilting it on its side
I haven't tried the CTug. This way also doesn't require tilting. Once the car is in I dont have to worry about it sliding off if I hit a curb. Also, the beach wheels are awesome on sand. But like I said. I haven't tried the ctug wheels so I cant speak on them.
I haven’t heard you on the spearfishing podcast lately. Have u been doing any freediving/spearing lately??
Hi Debbie!
I've been slacking on THE SPEAR podcast. I have a few episodes I need to edit and get out. I've gone on a few spearfishing trips but havnen't been diving enough. I really got sucked into making videos. :) I should have more podcast episodes out soon. Thanks for the reminder. 😀
Brilliant!
Thanks Richard!
Good video you are much better at making a videos than me. Search: Hobie Kayak Scupper Cart Hack No Tipping Your Boat On Its Side. three is a part 1 and 2. I ran the 36" bungees all the way through the tubes. Two hints that will help is aim the top of the cart at the bow of the boat, help with lining it up straight when you move the boat over. And if you want a little more room when feeding the bungees through set the boat on one tire letting the one side of fall between the tires, that then feed the bungee through on the high side. Then move the boat on to the other tire and do the other side.
Hi +Andrew Dillon!! Not better, I've just made a ton of bad ones so some of them are turning out OK now ;) LoL
Great tips. Thank you for taking the time to share that with the community!
To add to it, on my boats with my set up the bungees can be hooked to the top of the seat or the seat cross bar if the seat is out. If you want to try to feed the regular size bungees down the tubes as I did it helps to twist steel baling or tie wire like stripes on a candy cane to help guide the bungee through.
You should have sold the idea to Hobie…..genius should be rewarded.. I hope your an engineering student
You are too kind. I cant take the credit for the idea. I just put my spin on it. I'm happy you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!
The carpet is cute. Dont wanna get a scratch
Ha! #NotSponsored so have to take care of it. :)
Or just lift the kayak on its side & slide the wheels in. piece of cake....
Yes but, the whole point is not to TILT your kayak on it's side. So it doesnt get scratched up and you don't drop gear off the side...
with all your gear and esky Rods ect in the pro 14 ..it's just to heavy to lift..
Hi Glenn. I travel light. When I take more gear I'll move it all up towards the front before lifting the back. Then i move all the loose items to the back so its not so nose heavy when I pull it along.