Stargate Command Shutdown reveals truth fans have always feared...
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2019
- Is Stargate dead? MGM seems to think so, shutting down the already crappy Stargate streaming service and moving to RUclips is the final sign that there is NO immediate future for new Stargate.
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Brad wright already said in a interview that they are working on something *new* stargate related. its not like MGM officially admits the series is dead
Maybe now is the time to sold the rights
@joe v I really did not watch the video. Why would I anyways
@@white_red_dragons5654 your right to think people only come too you tube to watch videos is just crazy
We Babylon 5 fans welcome you SG fans to the club of dead franchises! The bar is in the the room. Just tell Buffy to move if you want a seat.
Wait is firefly not sitting there lol
Hear, hear!
@@hellsgate7966 Exactly! Browncoats are sitting right here!
B5
BtVS
Firefly
Angel
Farscape
Xfiles
Stargate
BSG'77/'04
KnightRider
Ateam
MacGuyver
StarTrek original timeline
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B5 had like 10 movies a spin off and a conclusion to the story true sg1 had two movies and two spin offs but no conclusion in series to either
Most Stargate fans have stocked up physicals years ago, so why would anyone pay for a streaming service when you can just pop in your DVD for free?
Well said :)
putting out SG-1 on Blu-Ray would be welcome - pretty much all the other series are available, just not SG-1 that I can find. I love my DVD's (I have SG-1 and Atlantis complete DVD sets) but the quality is a little lacking.
@@STELLVIA. doing an HD Master of SG-1 would be fantastic. I have the Blu-Ray version of the original movie, and it looks damn good - and that's not even 4K.
We are kinda lazy. No, don't get mad its not an insult.
I have all but one box of farscape, all of Babylon 5, lots of movies, anime and shows on DVD...but if I could simply boot up my 360 to watch them on there without having to get out of bed (my room is cold a lot, its the UK and heating costs lol) I probably would do it.
My father is the same. We have every episode of last of the summer wine on DVD. But he prefers to watch them on sky because he does not like getting up to swap the DVDs. (Tho the cost is biting right now lol)
When those of us with physical copies can no longer get the stuff streamed, THEN we will go to our DVD collection lol.
(Plus my 360 is so LOUD when it runs a DVD or game. Silent drives that make no noise in DVD players ftw)
That's exactly what i was thinking. Wtf. I have multiple copies. I can watch the whole thing whenever I want AND without ads.
Man, I didn't know that Joe Flanigan had gone to such efforts to give us a conclusion to Atlantis. Good on him for rounding up the funds to at least make an attempt.
Atlantis had a conclusion (they went home to earth)
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And the Wraith are still stuck in the distant galaxy (as they’ve been stuck for the last 10,000 years)
I’m ashamed to say that I remember and was excited when I heard about Joe Flanagan’s efforts, I just assumed they had screwed him over and that was it, game over. It really infuriated me when Atlantis was canceled... I even endured Universe, for as long as I could stand it, but I’m sorry, it just didn’t flow. It’s a shame they didn’t let Joe take it over, as he was one of the best actor/characters of the entire franchise, a series I watched from it’s beginning on Showtime! You guys keep going with this crusade, as I’m sure there are other fools out there, like me, who pays membership in all five of these streaming services, who would drop a couple in return for a chance to step through the Gate again...Good luck and may a curse continue to follow MGM for their lies and ignorance!
I always wondered most: The Ancients cant be that arrogant that they supress all
other races that ascend, right?!?!
Make them bow to THEIR rules, right?
Sure, they can for themselves decide they dont want to interfere, but they cant keep
all other races in an non-action-hell, right???
What happens to other Races that reach the higher planes of Existence?!?
If you get what i mean!
This is my greatest question about this Franchise!!
No kidding!
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
Lol nice...
Exactly, I always thought that quote from Oma was gibberish, until I realized it means dont judge a book by its cover. Meaning if you already have a preconception of something, you mind has already been made and there is no convincing you otherwise.
@@xeeen0 ah very nice. For me that quote always made me think that the journey is more important in life, or anuthing for that matter. If you already know the outcome of something, that it is fire, then you would gave already have to have experienced and learned everything leading up to that point. So for her metaphor; you have to have experimemted with fore enough before you can fully and immediately know the element before you is fire, and that it can be used to create a meal. I always thought of this as a metaphor for ascension as well, and that the journey is more important. Especially when Daniel ascends and she tells him that there are no shortcuts; same with fire leading to the knowledge of its result.
Not sure. But in my head this all clicks; im juat not the best at exressing in words what is in my head.
Never run with scissors
Isn't that the episode with the red indian guy who gives them Trinium with those weird wolf like aliens protecting them?
Is Stargate a dying franchise? Indeed. Should it be saved? Indeed.
I thought it ended 20 years ago?
@@Yora21 10 years ago I think was the end of Atlantis
Dying? It's already dead - has been for quite a while now unfortunately.
You say that alot, you know?
Indeed? Indeed.
Poor Flannigan, at least Ronin still gets to run around Atlantis.
Too soon...
😢
I always make jokes like that and people look at me like I'm crazy. I just tell them it's a stargate thing.
Ouch. Funny, but kinda hurts.
What's this about Joe Flanigan?
Stargate fans: We've been abandoned
Sliders fans: First time?
Almost first time, but not quite...
Sliders got so bad at towards the end, though...
Firefly fans: At least you guys got more than 14 episodes.
@@TheRogueX I personally love firefly but its not even similar. Firefly never really got all that much views in comparison to SG. One thing though that helped end both firefly and SG though and that was moving it to a timeslot where not as many people are watching tv. I do believe if kept in its original time slot firefly would have had more seasons for sure but they decided to put it on friday nights, you know when everyone goes out for the night lol
Netflix buy Stargate!
Just... For the love of GOD. Make sure Disney keeps their damned paws OFF this franchise. They are the EA of the film world.
Yes please. Don't let Star Wars happen to you!!!!!!!!
To be fair, EA usually gets one decent release out of a franchise. Disney destroy its past AND future releases.
Yes
Yeah sure the Mandalorian, Clone Wars season 7, would like to have a word. Anyway, totally agreed with you on the rest of the SW franchise except Rogue One and maybe Solo...
I'm glad that it won't be ruined. If a new Stargate series was released in the current woke climate it would be all about #blacklivesmatter, #defundthestargateprogram and toxic masculinity.
Stargate was too powerfull. It made people hopefull not miserable.
It was hopeful until Stargate Universe came along with it's dark edgy tone.
Everything new now is all the world is coming to an end, there is no hope, our life sucks. I do not even watch anything new its to depressing.
@@barndweller4573 a lot of Anime is positive if you think that would be of interest to you much of it is free on Crunchyroll.
@Shol'va And the execs just can't have that happen, now can they.
Indeed
at this point mgm should just sell stargate to someone whom will actually do something with it
*who
Well, if they continue to throw money down the pisser, you probably won't have to wait too long for things to start getting auctioned off. Then you just gotta hope someone does to Stargate what Gearbox did for the Homeworld franchise.
Netflix would buy it for sure.
@@justoneounce totally, theyd spend a shit load on it
be careful what you wish for. buying a franchise isn't as easy as it sounds. often parts of it are owned by other people. character designs, music, whole characters, and concepts. people who might ask for royalties. even if that isn't the case and MGM owns it for 100% then any new owner will likely reboot the whole thing and make their own version of Stargate that ignores what came before.simply to avoid any potential legal problems with past creators.
like Terminator Genysis which had to recreate scenes from T1 because they didn't own the rights to the first movie.
they had the right to create Terminator movies but they didn't own the first movies, other studios did.
This broke my heart. I grew up on Stargate.
My heart was broken with the dog analogy already...
Spent? They left Atlantis on a knife edge. They ended Universe in the shittiest way possible.
They could easily pull a 'Next Generation' and create a new show that takes place after all the other shows ended.
@Dowhat Iwant there is a follow up comic that leaves you with just as big a cliffhanger.
They could even use a younger Jack O'Neil. Remember his Clone?
@@grayscribe1342 that could work.
I heard the same about Star Trek DS9 being continued as “season 8” novels, but 90% of them were subpar quality. Same with Buffiverse season 8 comics. In retrospect I should have stopped with the Official TV Finale (it was the best conclusion)
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"They want to pay little and gain much."
Perfect phrasing. Yeah, and objective fact is: That's not how this World works.
It's not how things work.
Simple as that. A simple fact.
So yeah, some random RUclipsrs could indeed run their Company better than they can.
That's just how the facts present themselves.
....Anyway: NEW STARGATE SERIES IN THE MAKING!!
Look over to Gate-World, it's confirmed there!!
I didn't even know that there was a dedicated Stargate streaming site...
it is advertised thru a RUclips channel which you only discover if you watches Stargate videos in RUclips (the algorithm will recommend their videos). Also, they share curated Stargate episodes every week to their Subscribers to entice them into joining StargateCommand.
Even though I own all the DVDs, I subscribed to it the hopes MGM would see people were willing to pay for more content. Alas...
@@MaconMedia Same here! 🙂
@@MaconMedia I will be afraid of it, honestly I prefer that they left SG alone as it ended rather than give them an excuse to come with a mediocre reboot or some weak sequel or sequels PowerRanger style...
@@xponen Would that mean there's a BSG channel? I find it weird that with the broken copyright system on yotube channels are able to stream entire episodes.
Let's be honest everyone was pissed when they said Atlantis was ending.
The same for star gate universe.
@@jameswatsonatheistgamer very few were upset with universe cancellation. Exactly 800,000 actually were still watching.
@@saquist I still liked it.
@@saquist How do you know how many people were watching ? ...Do you know how cows tune in for their criminal dramas ?
@@nikolaikalashnikov4253 Sorry it was lower than 800,000 for next to the final episode according to it;s ratings. The final episode jumped up only 1.1 million. Atlantis had 2 million for it's final so clearly not nearly as popular.
The potential here is so big. ... Damn I miss Stargate so much.
I know right will someone tell Tyler Perry Studios to buy it. Lol
@@thefold8227 save Stargate tweet storm
josephmallozzi.com/2019/11/23/stargate-a-new-hope/
The Sci Fi and Fantasy cast please make sure to continue the Stargate !!!!❤️
"They want to pay little and gain much."
Perfect phrasing. Yeah, and objective fact is: That's not how this World works.
It's not how things work.
Simple as that. A simple fact.
So yeah, some random RUclipsrs could indeed run their Company better than they can.
That's just how the facts present themselves.
....Anyway: NEW STARGATE SERIES IN THE MAKING!!
Look over to Gate-World, it's confirmed there!!
Man, I wish Joe had been allowed to make a series 6. He always knew what SGA was about - better, it seems, than Spyglass...
Season 6 could have had them rescue Dr. Weir.
Tho' they "closed the gate" on her character, rescuing her and developing her replicator character might have been interesting; sort of like a Seven of 9 character.
Season, not series, there are 4 Stargate series's, sg-1, Atlantis, universe, and origins.
@@stapuft, she's from Europe. What we call "seasons", they call "series".
@@stapuft Some people say series to mean the same thing as season
And actually there ARE 5 Stargate series, but even the most rabid fans (me included) don't want to acknowledge Infinity.
@@ELCADAROSA Actually the British do that, most Europeans use the word season.
I can’t believe MGM haven’t realised how much demand there is for more stargate. One day someone without their head up their backside might realise what a huge property they have
The problem is that it was all written by one ghostwriter who is retired now. He might have some extra Atlantis scripts finished (alternates).
andrew latham if Flanagan got the green light, (from whoever’s in charge ) we would have a new Stargate series no problem, within a few years .
Surely with such a huge universe there would be writers lining up to do scripts and channels or streaming services willing to stump up the cash. Just needs someone like Flanagan to get the rights from MGM who would prob be happy just taking the money and running.
@@scouseandy07 Flanigan had backing/funding to make more SGA but the people who owned it turned him down. Could they make it today without making it darker and grittier and still have any audience?
Except there isn't nearly as much demand as people seem to think. If there was the streaming service would have been a success rather than what it ended up being.
like, stargate is the only show I rewatch all the time.
One of many. Anything before 2010. Before the SJW shite infected everything. Smallville is one of them as-well. I enjoyed rewatching it.
@@jameswatsonatheistgamer I liked smallville. Will probably rewatch it soon because you mentioned it
Got to add Sliders to that list.
@@omegapointsingularity6504 Smallville is a really good show. Enjoy rewatching it
@@ronbeck201 I'm rewatching sliders as-well
I didn't even know there was a Stargate website.
Indeed. It's was just a lame ploy to sell Origins.
True. SG is one of my top 3 favorite shows ever and only when is dying i found out this website exists
LGuilhas me too ! I. Was yelling at the screen when they talked Bout annual feed and how long it existed and I never heard about it !!! And the talk on SG being available on Hulu and amazon ...yeah NOPE only for USA market....what about the rest of the globe !!!!
Yep
Yep never heard of it ... also never heard of origins...
"We'll tell you where to watch just in just a moment"
Me:
"From the discs on my shelf"
orangemanbad Hulu also has SG1, Atlantis and Universe.
Yes, but kinda pointless, since I own the best platform, namely "MyShelf"... :D
Can't get Hulu here. That's a common problem outside the US in fact - the services that supposedly have the thing you want simply don't exist, and you're left wondering:
1. Does anyone in your region have it?
2. If so, who?
Like Star Trek Discovery being on netflix. (but meanwhile Picard will be on Amazon.)
It's a total minefield trying to figure out who has what and why...
I'm with you on the "from my shelf" plan. I have it all set up on my Plex server. All the shows, all the movies, even the animated series which was so bad I just couldn't finish it.
"They want to pay little and gain much."
Perfect phrasing. Yeah, and objective fact is: That's not how this World works.
It's not how things work.
Simple as that. A simple fact.
So yeah, some random RUclipsrs could indeed run their Company better than they can.
That's just how the facts present themselves.
....Anyway: NEW STARGATE SERIES IN THE MAKING!!
Look over to Gate-World, it's confirmed there!!
One word:. Firefly
How soon we forget? Serenity was great poor Joss he went thru this with Firefly.
I’m still mad about that.
It was the closest example of wrongness I could think of lol
Firefly really was good, one of the best sci-fi.
Umm, as good as Firefly it was no Stargate SG1. There wouldn't even be a Firefly without SG1. SG1 started in 1997! Firefly got 1 season, yes it could have lasted longer but it was no Stargate SG1 or Antlantis. I will give you that it was better than Universe, a poor rippoff to a poor reboot of Galactica. But then again pretty much everything was better than Universe, except the last Stargate movie...
@@TalesOfBrian SG1 there is no comparison however corporate got in the way of what the fans wanted with Firefly. Serenity was at least some sort of closure. My comments were just a reminder of other shows that the corporate decided the fate of a fandom and people that believed in the work didn't get heard. Lots of good things disappeared way before we're ready or even want them to. I watch everything good that's ended on DVD.
No matter what happens undomesticated equines could not hold us back.
Indeed.
Well said Teal'c
Boy
God tier comment here.
Jaffa Kree lol
The Expanse is our only hope now. I'd rather have a DEAD franchise and keep the good memories, then seeing it culturally vandalized.
Like they did with Origins.
The Expanse is too complex and tedious - IMHO.
@@fivish How is it complex?
Salted i only have an IQ of 138!
@@fivish It isn't Rick & Morty though.
My mom just died in August, and her and I watched StarGate SG1 and Atlantis all the time. It's one of those shows that i grew up with. Some of my first crushes were on these shows. It played into my love of mythology and space. I like to think that these shows helped shape me into the person I am today. I miss it.
A textbook lesson in failed management by slaughtering the goose that lays golden eggs for dinner.
MGM never had any respect for Stargate despite it being one of their most profitable franchise at the time.
Already, when they cancelled Atlantis to start SGU despite Atlantis having great ratings at the time. They didn't listen to the fans and Mallozzi later said on his blog that the producers were ordered by MGM to make a more edgy show similar to BSG that had just ended. MGM cared not that the fans loved the franchise for its campy atmosphere and humor and didn't want a dark edgy depressing show. Atlantis could have had at least 5 more seasons, there were so many stories left to be told in the Pegasus galaxy.
Just sell the franchise to Netflix or Amazon already.
MGM didn't cancel it, SyFy did.
@@LainK1978 And that would've been Mark Stern who was on a "let's NOT spend money" binge at Syfy.
omg, another one man, that thinks that Atlantis could have "5 seasons' and again bleming SGU for its cancelling.
SGA could have 1 max 2 seasons at best. Movies were planned and scenario for them was already been made but fall of DVD market holded them.
>MGM cared not that the fans loved the franchise for its campy atmosphere and humor and didn't want a dark edgy depressing show.
Lol, talk about yourself only plz. Many fans did like it A LOT. Its always good to make something new escepially when Malozzi and CO were still at the wheel. Universe was really beautiful show with inredible story and great characters. But both SGU and TV movies about SG-1\SGA were killed by the MGM bankruptcy. Simple. Stop hating show and bleming it without any solid reason.
SGU was good.
i love both SG1 and SGA, SGU was somewhat ok, but MGM and SYFY wouldn't know a good show if one was being crapped out of a horses ass
Netflix needs more content badly now when disney will pull everything out. Cross your fingers!
They've already pushed their B films up to the front of the Site, I haven't felt a dry spell on Netflix like this in years.
They could have just did a season 4 of designated survivor... but i guess kiefer sutherland left for greener pastures >.
I wish they would have finished Marco Polo
I was *NOT* happy when I found out that season 5 of Stargate Atlantis was going to be the final season.
If you read the homecoming book series it was what season 6 was going to be, f'ing amazing
I heard the same about Star Trek DS9 being continued as “season 8” novels, but 90% of them were subpar quality. Same with Buffiverse season 8 comics. In retrospect I should have stopped with the Official TV Finale (it was the best conclusion)
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Damn.. the dog analogy is cold.
But it is very accurate, unfortunately.
It was a good drive at least :p
Indeed.
@@theonlyjacknicole Sad but accurate
Seriously MGM, at least get all the Stargate everything back on Netflix
Not going to happen as long as they have the deal with Amazon.
They could sell to Disney. They’ll buy anything!
Tammy Martinez then I would have to get yet another streaming service... sell to Netflix, I’ve already got them.
ya'll know its on hulu right?
Sell
It
To
Amazon.
Worked with the Expanse
Lucian alliance? No conclusion
Stargate universe? No conclusion
The goddamn wraith war and atlantis literally being back on earth? No conclusion
Stargate Atlantis was my favorite of all the Stargates
It was the best... I loved it.
Fans: Take our money and give us content.
MGM: Nah we'll try to take your money without giving you anything instead.
Just pray Disney or Bad robot dont get their paws on it
I'll pray that Disney get their hands on it after they stumble and are forced to focus on making good things again.
@@OzixiThrill : hope never dies mate...
IMO Disney could make something good, maybe they have people who are not of the KK mindset and do not buy into the current PC.
Definitely DON’T want Disney on this! It’s best in the hands of an independent group of Stargate fans or a company with GENUINE respect for the franchise unlike Disney’s disingenuous “respect” for Star Wars they claimed originally.
@@kidwajagstang : Agreed, Fans doing the work would be best for any of the "old" franchises. Just look at Axenar or other stuff. The fanwork is not only amazing but fitting and keeps the continuation. Big Players are only in it for the money. Nothing really wrong with that but the love is often missing and it can be felt.
@@kidwajagstang Do also put into consideration that the Marvel Franchise has been done pretty well for the past decade.
As long as Disney puts the right people in charge, they can make a series that could Rival SG1
I think as a fan, the failed deal with Flannigan is likely the most heart breaking event to hear about. How close we got to more episodes of Stargate Atlantis to have it snuffed out by a lack luster management.
Also feel bad for Joe himself, I get the sense he absolutely loved shooting Atlantis and he got so close to being able to continue his passion. Only to have that taken away by the suits.
If Stargate is “worn out” why are there almost 30,000 (that’s 30 THOUSAND!) Stargate SG-1 stories on FanFiction.net, with more still being added
"They want to pay little and gain much."
Perfect phrasing. Yeah, and objective fact is: That's not how this World works.
It's not how things work.
Simple as that. A simple fact.
So yeah, some random RUclipsrs could indeed run their Company better than they can.
That's just how the facts present themselves.
....Anyway: NEW STARGATE SERIES IN THE MAKING!!
Look over to Gate-World, it's confirmed there!!
I passionately hate MGM for this. SG is the best show out there.
Stargate is also the only franchise I knew MGM for other than tom and jerry. They dug their own grave by treating the franchise this way.
This sucks. I agree, I wish they’d sell it
give it to netflix damnit
@@crazystuffproduction Yes...please let's contact Netflix to buy it.
You guys all realize that it's better off dead, don't you?
You do realize that if it was sold off, it would most likely be some dead-end studio like Disney that bought it and you'd get an entire SG series centered around two or three female characters who are all ancients who do anything they want because vagina...
Do you want SG to end up like Star Wars or Marvel? #Better Off Dead
Just please don't sell it to Disney! I would rather let it die and rest in piece...
"It took me a long time to learn this, but some man are better off dead" - MIB
Come on Stargate fans let's binge watch Westworld instead :D
@@raymisuto9872 That's what I tell all SG fans. Be happy it's not being abused by some entertainment group. It would suffer the fate of ST and SW.
I’ve said it before elsewhere and I’ll say it here as well, the “streaming bubble”...maybe not soon...has to burst.
All I have and will use is Netflix and HuluPlus. I am so not going to pay another streaming company just for one f****n’ show or franchise. It’s just ridiculous.
We complained about cable giving us channels we didn’t want or need. Now that it’s sort of streaming specific in a way, you have to take out a damn loan...🙄🙄🙄
What these streaming services have failed to realize is that...not just that people can’t afford all or multiple streaming services...in deciding not to go with many or all of the services, people are finding that they have lives and don’t have to sit in front of a monitor all day.
No, I’m not giving up on my entertainment entirely, but I have decided that I won’t buy Disney +, since they already said that I NEED to watch their TV shows in order to understand what’s going on in their MCU movies and such.
It’s just f****n’ ridiculous. I don’t like to see people fail, but I do hope all the people behind the”streaming bubble” who are absolutely greedy absolutely fail miserably. I liked having most things I watched from one source. Their greed ruined it for me.
"I NEED to watch their TV shows in order to understand what’s going on in their MCU movies" This is so ironic considering how little they treated Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, the Defenders, et all. The older shows have always been treated like the red headed step child so much that Josh Wheadon said that AoS with Coulson was in a different universe.
Captain Cat
Well, according to Disney and Feige, they’re going to make them very interconnected now. I’m assuming they’re saying that because they want zombies to sign up and PAY just to keep up with the stories.
This is no better than when Marvel...minus Disney...use to make the super duper mega crossovers and say the same thing in the beginning.
I think the CV might have given streaming a shot in the arm.
Hoehner Tim
I can’t disagree with you there.
Holy shit, how many episodes of stargate could they have made with the 1billion dollars? A few seasons at the very least.
20 episodes would cost about 30 milions (1,4 - 1,7 milions per episode)...what is like two episodes of Mandalorian. Fuck of MGM, you have one of the lowest budget franchises ever, just do something!
Worn out? Used up? More like MGM had no talent, no imagination.
Or they don't want to put money on something that they view as already successful, and are to lazy to try and one up themselves. Damn that's sad.
or maybe MGM are idiots, and why they made that crap "stargate origins"? hoping anyone will like it... 10min episode with 2min intro and credits low budget trash...
@@AdamJensenReal Yeah SG:Origins was a major facepalm. This may not be a popular opinion, but what I want to see is MGM selling it to Netflix or AmazonPrime and let them reboot the series from the begining. Ignore SG1 completely... Make Season1 be an extened retelling of the 1995 film. Season2 goes from there but stick with the Egyptian Gods theme. Maybe Osiris and Isis comes looking for Ra, Set/Seth leads a Tok'ra like rebel faction but with stealth tech, black version of the Horus/Anubis guard armour. Actual Horus is a Teal'c type character, arrives with Osiris and Isis thinking he's their son but finds out maybe Set is his real father... Shenanigans!
And for heavens sake no Jaffa, Goa'ulds or Asgard... The guards in the original film were just indoctrinated humans, with alien tech helmets. The Gods were Grey Aliens possessing human bodies, not some stupid worm/snake parasite things...
@@abmong Then that would destroy Star Gate, if they did that, then at least they have to make it clear that its based loosely on SG. I've watched SG and SGA, universe, i haven't yet but i will. Good idea but not for this, maybe another series that has similarities with SG but not as another Star Gate.
@@TheWinterySummer It wouldn't destroy Stargate. It would destroy SG1 and SGA though. The original creators Devlin and Emmerich hated SG1 anyway. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed SG1 to a certain extent but I could never sake the feeling that it was a completely different tone to the original film, and the missed oppotunity of following Egyptian mythology more closely not to mention the fact that SG1 broken the film cannon with the Goa'uld... they weren't a thing in the film and Ra was clear shown as a Grey Alien. Atlantis was better simply because it had no Goa'uld and wasn't a constant reminded of the poor job SG1 did with adapting/portrayal of Egytian Gods into the story... I'm an Ancient Mythologies nut if you couldn't tell. And don't get me started on Apophis and his guards... what the hell were those helmets... A child could have done a better job. And Apophis himself could have been so much more instead of just a Goa'uld. He should have been the world eating serpent that destroyed Ra's race, maybe a gigantic cosmic space worm/serpent that ate worlds, not just another God because he wasn't in Egytian Mythology. Even the film Gods of Egypt portrayed he/it better and that's say a lot since GoE was a big stinking pile of...
Netflix should honestly take over with the same crew that made SG1 and Atlantis.
How about this: All Stargate fans should boycott all future MGM productions until such a time they either go bankrupt, greenlight the continuation of Atlantis and Universe, or sell them to another network.
Yes, Universe did get a lot of negativity, however that was mainly from the first season. Things got a lot better in the second.
the franchises who would buy them would probably make things worse
"After the end of Stargate Universe..."
What end?
That were your thoughts too?
Stargate SG1 and Atlantis had their "endings". And what is about Universe?
Yes Universe was not so good at the beginning, but in season 2 it really cought me.
If Univerese had an "ending", then it was the greatest NOT-HAVE-A-ENDING-ending i have ever seen!
@@JonnysCornys Universe was a bad Battlestar Galactica rip-off. They should have sticked with the comedy and single story episodes like SG-1 and Atlantis. But at least they should have had a proper ending to that story.
@@JonnysCornys It was a soap opera. Soap operas don't have endings.
@@RyanAcidhedzMurphy jep you are right... put the guys back to earth... i'm only interested in the destiny of the destiny x'DDD
i want some informations to be satisfied ... how does the destiny work, what abilities does the destiny really have (the point with controlling space and time), are the drones maybe made by an species that we are knowing already (compair the symbols on them with the symbols/writings of the ancients and the nox, it could be a mix of them) and where will the journey of the destiny end? maybe i'm a little bit interesstet in the destiny of eli too. ^^'
here a pic i put together of the writings
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I genuinely believe that Stargate could've been a juggernaut up there with Trek and Wars. Hell, I used to think it was. It depresses me what's become of my favorite scifi property.
I agree, but I would say properties.
At least when i was a kid it was up there with both of those. And the advantage that series has on the other two is that it is about humans becoming a major player in the galaxy. Oh and it is pretty grounded for such a long running science fiction tv show
I’m glad I taped every episode and every film, it will never age and the jokes will never cease... long life SG 👍🏼
Marc’s Fx well to be fair...the only “aging” would be the technology examples in the first few sg1 seasons...aside from that...very much agreed :)
*didn't even know there was a streaming service for Stargate
They should have let Joe Flanigan buy the rights....but oh well i have it all on my hdd.
If the Expanse can be saved, so can Stargate.
Amazon... Are you there??
amazon streams some but have been locked out of others. Like Atlantis... watch 3 seasons and the last 2 are unavailable.
They did it with a airplane that had a huge commercial banner on its back, circleing jeff bezos office. It does seem to work. Do it!
The difference here is to corporate types, another show in the same genre would be seen as competition so it seems likely they won't be interested except to maybe sit on it for a decade or so to bring out after they retire the expanse. The only real hope seems to be Netflix.
Well Said!
@@manicmarauder Amazon shows looks better then Netflix. Netflix shows are chip and have too much SJW
Considering what happened to Star Trek, Star Wars and Dr. Who, lets celebrate the fact that wasn't done to Stargate.
yeah honestly i feel like if sg1 was made today they would have had entire episodes devoted to trans gauolds lol. ive learned my lesson from star wars and star trek personally. if it cant come back at its best i dont want it back at all else it ruin my memory of what it was. that said i really hope it comes back at its best.
it took me a while to get what you just wrote
its gold and I absolutely agree there.
I think I get it. let me confirm.
virtue signaling? out of place and absurd feminism and ill thought political correctness planted in other unfortunate franchaises?
@@Mirpurmad yeah thats what he meant. i mean its fine when its done in a good way like the orivil did with bortises child since it showed both sides of the debate and let us come to a decision ourselves without acting like one side was morally evil and the other was pure good. but when they do shit like doctor who does and just attack men for no reason at all while acting like woman are the greatest things in the world and would rule the world already if men stopped oppressing them it ruins the entire show. sadly the doctor who style of being woke is far far far more common then the orivil style of being woke. and ironically enough the orivils style of being woke is alot like the old star trek style whilst the new star trek is more like the doctor who style.
@@Mirpurmad Yes, have you noticed that the most intolerant racist, sexist members of society today are the ones who think of themselves as "woke"? Racism is racism, regardless of color. Sexism is sexism, regardless of sex. I have no patience for it and I have no desire to have such intolerant attitudes crammed down my throat each week. What I want is great stories and great character development. Never once did I complaint about the color or sex of any of the Stargate cast, to be honest, I didn't care. The concept that sex and color didn't matter was something I saw as a positive in many of the SciFi shows in the past; sadly that concept is now a thing of the past.
Your right!!!
Let's just sell it to Amazon. They did a great job with The Expanse and I can imagine that they would make the best of this franchise!
All the more reason for Netflix to snap it up! On the other hand, if the other "Big 3" broadcasters each have a Sci-Fi franchise, perhaps Comcast/NBC should do THIS one! ABC/Disney has Star Wars, and CBS has Star Trek . . .
This comment didn't age well. :p
"Is MGM really so inept..." or "they just don't believe in the Stargate property".
Embrace the healing power of "and".
Allow me to introduce you to a concept I learned from Far Cry 5 called the power of "yes."
Let me introduce you to the power of not using ''OR'' as ''XOR''.
Yup. You don't go into bankruptcy and then follow up by spending a billion dollars you don't have by being good at what you do. Ignoring popular properties doesn't scream competence either.
Those that dont get sci-fi, dont want sci-fi for anyone.
And by "those that don't get SciFi" I mean the SciFi channel.
Oh, you mean SyFy, or as I call it, the SyFyllus channel.
i grew up in the middle of no where Texas, the SciFi channel was one of the only channels i could get back then that wasn't news or western shows. it was really sad to see SciFi slowly die from all the random BS Non Sci Fi shows.
@@Victor-rs2ws are you leather face or was that your neighbor?
@Harmony Alexandria my late mother and i used to love that channel back when it was called SciFi. once it became syfy that channel took a major nose dive and we both lost interest in it.
@@MonkeyJedi99 you too?
Over 2 years of filling out the show suggestion form and THIS GEM is finally back on Netflix!!!!!
The problem with all streaming services, is that they know most people sign up and kind of forget about it, and keep paying each month regardless of how much they use it. So they don't care about their actual customers, it's all about bringing in new customers.
I believe Netflix basically admitted as much when asked about certain original series being cancelled. Season 3 of this isn't going to attract new customers if the first two didn't do the job, so it's not worth the expense.
"But there is hope. With MGM poised to fail, there is the possibility that they will be forced to merge..." LOL!!!
Expect a Hedge fund dismantling rather than a merge.
Sell, merge, lose rights it hardly matters at this point. Someone is bound to get it in order to use it since other known science fiction franchses are hiting the ground. DW, ST and SW are on the decline SG is mostly left untouched by the virus that degrates all franchises.
That's not how executives thinks. "Other sci-fi franchises aren't performing well let's not take a gamble on this." Not bothering to look into them far enough to realize that they're just being used by people who couldn't make good content to save their lives.
@@TheAkashicTraveller
Because people don't like sci-fi and there is not such a method to actualy see if people will like more SG?!
Well they are not smart otherwise comics and animation in USA would not be in such a shape. Until one of them relises how the whole thing actualy works they will not make money.
Merge? With whom? MGM's been owned by Warner Brothers for years.
This is what happens when accountants manage a business.
I just wish they would finish Stargate universe instead of leaving us hanging like they did
The tiny thing that still gives me a bit of hope is knowing that the way it ended could allow for them to finish it (it will never happen, I know) even in years from now.
Eli is older, he spent years awake in the ship trying to fix the situation. He noticed something was wrong with the others, and decides to wake them up. Some died in the pods (the actors who would not wanna come back), and all of them grew older instead of being preserved perfectly. In the meantime the Earth has a found a way to reach Destiny again, sending some supplies and a few new crewmembers (to replace the missing actors). And here we go !
They did....in the comics
@@djwriterkp Incredibly ironic since Brad Wright described SGU as: "The comic book has left the series..."
Can't really happen at this point, all the actors are way to old to play the same characters.
Really they could finish it since they went into the safest puns it had to travel a great distance their age would make sense
wow, i never heard of stargate origins before this.
Snap, I knew about the streaming service but never knew about that.
I watched origins but never knew about any subscription service til they announced they were closing it.
it's trash
Big Meh...
AMAZON PRIME i fucking hate amazon but i rly love stargate so i leech off my moms
I'd rather buy all the DVDs than waste money on a pointless streaming service.
already got them. And I watch them every 4-5 years again. We need new episodes. Atlantis 6 and 7 and 8 and so go on
Same here, me and sis watch them over and over...
Should have brought back universe. Just when Eli was really growing up.
It seems all the big studios are just killing off their best franchises
It's by design. Just look at what they are replacing it with.
@@radagast7200 ydh televised 💩
Bad reality tv is way cheaper than a good SciFi show. The less they spend, the higher their margins
@@stuartford5556 keep going this waycand by the 22nd century there wont be any tv left
I died when they canceled SGU. It was revitalizing for me. However, they just HAD TO HAVE WWE crap put on Syfy. Anyway, after the further cancellations of several other shows, I just quit Syfy and haven't looked back. I get more out of reading now.
You didn’t miss much on Syfy (except the Expanse which is genuinely good). I tried to watch other Syfy shows that replaced Stargate, like that one about post-apocalypse St Louis, but they were pretty dull/slow paced
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This made me dig out my stargate dvds to rewatch them again
Sorry I have all physical copy of every single episodes.
And well - I under no circumstances want reboot in any way... continuation... YES. Reboot... HELL NO!
Aw, but it could be an all-female and other-gendered reboot of the original story, but told less elegantly! (sarcasm from a fan of 2 of 3 Ghostbusters movies)
Yes, a continuation of SGU and maybe start a new chapter with Atlantis.
Stargate will live on in our hearts and minds...
Indeed. 😢
As much as I like Stargate SG1, the fact of the matter is they really have no where else to go with it. It seems to me they've tapped out all known archaeology for lore to keep the theme of it going. I mean I had to stop watching when they started that Ori stuff because it just felt too thematically different. Atlantis is really popular, but I personally thought it too was beyond the scope of the original premise. If it's going to come back, it'll have to go through the dreaded reboot, and personally I'd rather the show just stand on what it is now.
well they haven't done much with native American mythology
@@jimskywaker4345 I really liked the episode spirits where they encounter a tribe obviously off shoot from north american natives that had the special metal they wanted. I agree they certainly could have done more with the race posing as spirits to those people.
MGM treats Stargate like Les Moonves treats Star Trek, if not worse. 😞
So what you're saying is Stargate at MGM is stuck in a similar situation that Babylon 5 is in at Warner Bros. Studios. Figures.
Yes exactly! You got it :)
That is very frustrating. In Babylon 5's case it got screwed on all three attempts to continue it with a spin off (TNT sabotaged Crusade, the Sci Fi Channel aired Legend of the Rangers against the NFL playoffs, and Warner Bros decided to be super cheap with The Lost Tales despite the success of the initial DVD). Stargate is a proven hit and MGM is just sitting on it?!
MGM is OWNED by Warner Brothers.
And J. Michael Straczynski told the story he wanted to tell with Babylon 5 and moved on.
@@dalethelander3781 First of all MGM is owned by Warner Bros.... You may want to check your source before making a very wrong statement. Second of all when J. Michael Straczynski created Babylon 5 he developed the lore a thousand years before and after the show. So what if he got to tell the initial 5 years he wanted? He still wanted to tell more in that world and got screwed over each time.
@@jarjared3522 Ted Turner bought MGM when the studio was struggling. Warners bought all of Turner's entertainment holdings.
Don't tell me what Joe wanted. I worked on seasons 3 and 5 at Netter Digital (during season 4, I was on the CGI reboot of Voltron, Defender of the Universe). Joe told Starlog magazine he was doing 5 years and "there will be no Babylon 6."
Why do fanboys always want more than what they're given? Hell, let's reboot Something Is Out There or Mann and Machine or AIRWOLF or Automan or Manimal. Shit, let what's dead stay dead.
I am heartbroken we are, and the series, is being treating like this.
One of the reasons i made a home NAS was to download every Starget episode.
I"m a founding member of Stargate Command. I'm a big fan of the show and signed up for the service as soon as it first appeared. I'm very disappointed that MGM is replacing it with an inferior product. There is an old saying "you get what you pay for" and that's very true here. I'd have gladly forked over the cash to keep the service alive.
Anything with intelligent stories gets destroyed. Look at Star Trek.
IKR!
SJW Trash Disaster.
@@user-px8ez2bo5n SJW Trash Disaster might have brought them in. But it's not ST.
@@user-px8ez2bo5n std is more sjw
@Christobanistan No, it had lots of intelligent stories. It just wasn't a soap opera aimed at emo kids. They tried that with Universe and it killed the franchise. Emotions aren't intelligent.
what a shame. SG is one of my favorite universes. Guess I'll just rewatch SG-1/Atlantis for the umpteenth time.
I am starting it right now.
Atleast once a year from start to finish!
314 episodes at say 2 episodes a day. 157 days. Throw in some days off and we can round it up to half a year.
I always say this to people. The 90’s were the best decade for TV no mater what type of TV you liked. But especially Sci-Fi. You had alien nation that gave birth to the fox network. You had Star Trek at one point all of the Star Trek shows. Farscape debuted in 1999, you had earth final conflict, you had Stargate, I can keep going. But it seems that with all the reboots happening this is a decade and a genre surprisingly they wanna forget. And it’s sad because it was the best TV.
You're so right.
Excellent video! Something else to remember is that fans get older and might have kids. And those fans want to share their memories with the kids.
I am really missing Stargate. I have re-watched everything so much, that if it was a VHS it would be worn down.
I own most of the Stargate series and movies. Gotta love McGiver in space .
I loved your example of the dog hahaha. That's so accurate!
I remember when I spent my 2011 summer to catch up with all the Star Gate seasons and series on my Laptop with Hulu. I've always had the opinion that Star Gate and Firefly were greatly underestimated by their producing companies. I really hope Star Gate to be at Netflix, fingers crossed.
This is really mind blowing. I just checked the Epix home page. They seem to have almost the entire MGM library. But not Stargate. Why not fold the Stargate stuff in, pull their content from all the other services. A service that provides all the Bond films, all the classic MGM films, all the rest of the MGM library, Stargate and original content advertised as something clearly MGM not some lame cable channel no one watched would make money. Maybe not Disney money but enough to turn a real profit.
Amazon has the Stargate franchise streaming rights. That's why it doesn't appear on Epix or the like. If it hadn't been MGMs own service, the Stargate movies and series would not have been on StargateCommand.co either.
@@LainK1978 MGM owns Epix too. That makes no sense.
I honestly did not know that Epix existed. I have never had movie channels on a cable TV plan.
O'Neil: Teal'c isn't that hot?
Teal'c: Extremely
Indeed...
mate... two L's, poor form
When I think of SG I always remember that coffee drinking scene. 😂
Row Row Row your boat!
@@wmsymms Among others haha. Also the scene with him and Jack stuck in a loop and seeing them juggling side by side. Or another classic. Teal'c P.I, INDEED
Announcing the upcoming series: Stargate; A New Hope.
Sebastiaan Matla 😂😂 please no.
And you didn't mention the videogames, a whole horror story there.
It's almost as if they don't want our money.
They want your money without doing anything for it. They can spend money to make content and get a return on investment, or they can sit on their hands and rake in ad revenue without spending any money (except for a few grand for the web designer who made the website, which is pennies to them)
@@chemomatik8276 That is true, although ad revenue is also pennies (probably won't pay off that designer), compared to what they could get from fans for rereleasing already made content.
I paused SG-1 on Amazon prime, to watch this! It's my 3rd run through the series, just this year.
3rd?? Oh you poor poor neophyte. If I had to guess I have watched start to finish at least 10 times this year alone. I would rather binge Stargate than watch all this woke crap everyone's is making. 😉
I grew up on Stargate and it makes me sad to see it be forgotten or have people say they never heard of it.
My husband got me Stargate Command for my birthday 2 years ago, and I cried I was so happy!! I will love SG forever. I will always support SG... But MGM is making it super freaking hard
Stargate Fans: We are a forgotten fandom
Babylon 5 Fans: First Time, huh??
Firefly fans: Are we a joke to you?
@@Circenn "I aim to cause mischief."
@@bf945 It's "I aim to misbehave."
Aren't most people who are fans of one of those fans of all of those? I know I am.
Andromeda, Babylon 5, Dark Matter, Farscape, Firefly, Stargate, Star Trek, and Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles where all excellent shows. There are many others that I'm not listing here either because they told the story they set out to tell, or are not quite as good (but still enjoyable), such as Defiance. There are so many worthy science fiction universes that ahve been abbandonned over he years dispite having plenty of room to grow and fans to buy the shows.
Honestly I got confused with Babylon 5 and firefly never held my interest, but I still love stargate just as much as I like Star Trek and battle star galactica (reboot)!
Bring the writer of the fan fiction “Return of the ancients” He could save the series
I’m tired of writers who were not fans writing series “ROTA” is the best since SGA season 4
Man, i gotta read that some time. That looks awesome.
Where could a person download this?
@@arthurhardy www.fanfiction.net/community/Stargate-Return-of-the-Ancients/68490/
MacGuyver wakes up.... "Man, I just had the WEIRDEST dream..."
That shows just how much MGM does not care about Stargate SG1 by we having 2020 and they didn't even restored there whole 16-35mm negative films and re scan them into 4k-6k digital to remaster and release them into Blue Ray. But rather they just keep selling crappy 90s DVDs in 2020
I still re-watch the shows, along with Babylon 5, at least once every year.
Very nice !
Exactly what happens when art, science, music, etc all sold out by financial greedy hedge funds that really only cares about one number. $$$
The problem isn't being greedy, but that they're short-sighted with that greed... or genuinely so broke that they can't actually afford to do *anything* but are struggling to put stuff out in the hopes that someone will buy them out.
This is one of those 'some companies go bankrupt because business dries up, others go under because of mismanagement' kinda stories.
And in the background, behind all of the streaming services, the Torrent smiles slightly.
I am still wounded to this day that they cancelled SGU like they did.
I saw the writing on the wall and watched the first 3 episodes and didn't invest more time as I knew they would bunk it up. So, for me SG is SG-1 and SG:A.
@@NorseGraphic
I really tried to like SGU, but they made so many odd decisions. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.
SGU was Dawson's Creek In Space. I was glad to see it end.
Me as well. I still get pissed off thinking about it!
@@PTNLemay I don't view SGU as canon.
Some of the times in my early life was crowding around the tv with family watching stargate.
MGM made all the wrong calls, also what did they think the people who bought millions of DVD and Blu Ray disks, where going to do with a streaming service. I have spent Hundreds of pounds on discs, I'm certainly not going to pay, to watch what I already have to hand. it was stupid, to think a subscription service would be of use to a real fan, with every show and film already sitting on a shelf, ready to watch when ever they want. MADNESS.
Stargate Origins was like shooting the dog on the side of the road.
Hahaha auch. But good one.
5 minute episodes is the worst idea ever. I was over that crap real quick
Could not say better myself. Keep Disney SJW far away from stargate. Origins never happened