I’m gold and void raids all in are the norm in my PvZ at my level. The German taxi is extremely strong, even used in a lousy manner. Thanks for this series, I’m starting to enjoy SC2 a lot more. 😊
Tried this build before finishing the video and got completely destroyed by creed who just built a spine and some queens. Maybe you should teach elazer how to do that instead of microing with lings and all that. lmao
you will see the difference by the time you notice the zerglings with your overlord theoretically, but the easiest is to learn when zerglings are supposed to hit your natural.
@@LamboSC2 I believe he meant that he wonders whether people will go 12-pool and deliberately delay their lings by 3 seconds to pretend that they're doing the build you showed in the video
@@Macedon13 ooooh, my bad. That will never happen since you will just force less mining time off your opponent. You will realise its a 12pool cause your overlord will still see a natural hatch vs a delayed 12pool
I would love next MMR Friday to be a ZvP all in because I think ZvZ and ZvT are well covered with the German Autobahn this 12/11 and the 5 roach pressure vs Terran, and because the German taxi it's just for stargate openings maybe we are a little bit more limited in this match up
I figured out I was doing very similar build (insane winrate!), but with pool first, drone, then gas. My thinking is that it looks like a regular 12 pool, but at a cost of a little bit delayed speed and banes. On the other hand one can afford queen a bit earlier and then have more lings from hatched eggs running across the map quicker and overall it has slightly, but significantly better macro. Just killing opponents hatch and some lings (if he goes hatch first), expanding behind it (pull 1-3 drones out of gas) and delaying the rebuild for a bit could make the game even, but most often one can do much more than that. Seems like counter to the common 16/17 hatch. What do you think about this variation @Lambo ?
umm i'm not sure why you never heard of it, it's been used over 1312 for quite a while now. It's not super popular anyways and bly still does 1312 instead so maybe that's why.
I hit this on ladder once it was the only time I had encountered the build and it completely mindfucked me. Totally going to mix this in if I hit the same guy on ladder like 2+ times in a row.
@@nanotech2080 I mean that even if neither player goes for a ling-bane all-in, it usually progresses to roach wars into hydra lurker or into mutas. Hydra-lurker-viper is usually more fun, but still is not as fun as a nice ZvT or ZvP in my opinion.
@@carlosreyesf19 Well that's still better than cheese and all-ins. At least you get a chance to play the game out, and the longer it goes, the higher the chances the better player will win. I don't mind the unit comps
I’m gold and void raids all in are the norm in my PvZ at my level. The German taxi is extremely strong, even used in a lousy manner. Thanks for this series, I’m starting to enjoy SC2 a lot more. 😊
Tried this build before finishing the video and got completely destroyed by creed who just built a spine and some queens. Maybe you should teach elazer how to do that instead of microing with lings and all that.
lmao
Obviously it could have NOTHING to do that the attack was not at 1:55 but at 2:45 :D - Awesome stream captain, great fun :)
When are we gonna see the 2-3 second delay on the 12 pool lings to mindgame?
you will see the difference by the time you notice the zerglings with your overlord theoretically, but the easiest is to learn when zerglings are supposed to hit your natural.
@@LamboSC2 I believe he meant that he wonders whether people will go 12-pool and deliberately delay their lings by 3 seconds to pretend that they're doing the build you showed in the video
@@Macedon13 ooooh, my bad. That will never happen since you will just force less mining time off your opponent. You will realise its a 12pool cause your overlord will still see a natural hatch vs a delayed 12pool
I would love next MMR Friday to be a ZvP all in because I think ZvZ and ZvT are well covered with the German Autobahn this 12/11 and the 5 roach pressure vs Terran, and because the German taxi it's just for stargate openings maybe we are a little bit more limited in this match up
Excellent cast.
Is Elazer's defense the good response we need to do to defend 13/12 too ?
Yes it is pretty decent
Well done, can you pls make a video swarmhosts in matchup ZvT or ZvP, thx for your work
Very educative, as usual! It would also be nice to hear your opinion on how to defend the spine rush, the most annoying all-in I've seen so far
Look up sheriffdickles’ series on how to beat cheeses
I figured out I was doing very similar build (insane winrate!), but with pool first, drone, then gas. My thinking is that it looks like a regular 12 pool, but at a cost of a little bit delayed speed and banes. On the other hand one can afford queen a bit earlier and then have more lings from hatched eggs running across the map quicker and overall it has slightly, but significantly better macro. Just killing opponents hatch and some lings (if he goes hatch first), expanding behind it (pull 1-3 drones out of gas) and delaying the rebuild for a bit could make the game even, but most often one can do much more than that.
Seems like counter to the common 16/17 hatch.
What do you think about this variation @Lambo ?
roach nydus versus toss if youre keen?
Le Rezale - pretty good in the early game micro departement KEKW
Love the new content this year lambo!
Lambo vs drg game here at 3:00:00
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guess I'll have to go pool hatch now for the next few weeks
what if they just scout with probe see pool first and do cannon forge drone? like happend to me 3 last games
you take your third hatch on 2 queens and before you start mining gas and you're in a good position usually!
@@LamboSC2 thx not mining gas for a while if forge seems great idea. thx man
How come I've never heard of 12/11. Why have we always done 13/12 (or at least that is the variation I always heard about)?
umm i'm not sure why you never heard of it, it's been used over 1312 for quite a while now. It's not super popular anyways and bly still does 1312 instead so maybe that's why.
love the videos, is it just me or can you not access the replays anymore?
perfect thx again Lambo
Great video as always. How about baneling busting in ZvT ? Pretty classic cheese imo
can u make a scout reaction video vs protos is very hard to me read when they are going for a big atack on 3 bases or not
But how free is this MMR on a scale of 1-5? :)
Another ZvP would be nice
I hit this on ladder once it was the only time I had encountered the build and it completely mindfucked me. Totally going to mix this in if I hit the same guy on ladder like 2+ times in a row.
He was a good sport. I'm lucky if I even get a gg when I 12 bool
executed this build not optimally lol but still won, opps never gg
Nooo, now we will have to face this bs on ladder. Me sad :(((
ZvZ is almost always bullshit anyways...
@@carlosreyesf19 Exactly why pouring more gasoline on that bonfire is not what one should do
@@nanotech2080 I mean that even if neither player goes for a ling-bane all-in, it usually progresses to roach wars into hydra lurker or into mutas.
Hydra-lurker-viper is usually more fun, but still is not as fun as a nice ZvT or ZvP in my opinion.
@@carlosreyesf19 Well that's still better than cheese and all-ins. At least you get a chance to play the game out, and the longer it goes, the higher the chances the better player will win. I don't mind the unit comps
9/11 is nothing against this
im 12 min in.. thats not a build i would like to play just watching to beat it :D
PLS LAMBO HELP MY ZvT (!) soon ;)