These jurors should be commended for looking over everything from point A to point B so seriously while at the same time (as was shown by the changing opinions of the jurors across the several days of deliberations and the ultimate ability of all twelve jurors to reach a unanimous verdict) also being willing to change their minds and base their conclusions on their review and analysis of all of the evidence in this case. If every jury was as diligent as this one, Americans could have faith that in courts across the country, just verdicts would almost always be reached.
Because this is called "a report". This is a clip in a 30 minute slot for the news. If your misguided trust of the media is too much, the whole interview is available just so you can hear what the jury foreman said, so go view it just so you can hear in long form what the jury foreman said. Just as the media reported. Just that simple.
It's called "a report" in a 30 minute slot for the news. They have three to four minutes for each report. The whole interview is available for those who need to be spoonfed a 30 minute interview. The rest of us can get the report and the important stuff in three minutes.
This is why people are leaving legacy media. On RUclips, you could get the entire 30+ min interview, often Live, with chat asking questions. Instead, we get a 2 min clip of the interview- most of which is a voiceover explaining the case again
For everyone watching the trial at home it would seem everyone believed him guilty as well, which he obviously is. Telles had some very talented defensive attorneys but his choice to be on the stand was a monumental mistake, he was definitely his own worst witness. The prosecution attorneys were very talented as well. Thank you very much for your service, taking the time to carefully look at all the evidence and coming to a correct verdict.
Telles' attorneys were frankly top tier. They did the best they could with a difficult client. I've seen a few interviews with them after the case and it's obvious from the way they talk that they knew he was guilty, but gave it their all anyway.
swear to god i’m not impressed by their “thoroughness”. Also the pure irony of the juror holding out because “how could he be so dumb” while simultaneously being stupid about the evidence. It’s THERE
Exactly, low IQ jurists. I understand withholding judgement until you go over all the evidence and innocent until proven guilty, but with all the forensic evidence it should have been a 2-hour discussion at most - not three days. We have BEEN conditioned by tic toc and the internet to believe all kinds of silly theories: flat earth, election fraud, fake moon landing, a pro hit man kills a reporter to frame this man... If they want to do away with this former pol, why would they not just have the hitman kill him? Marrons.
@@hotrod5622 people also do really dumb stuff when they’re extremely upset or emotionally agitated, too. Extreme anger/rage definitely affects your ability to think rationally and to process risk and all that stuff.
If only he did not take the stand... He might have gotten away with it, even with all the DNA evidence... And these people can vote.... makes me scared.
I have a theory that it's a similar psychological phenomenon to how inmates on jailhouse calls will spew sensitive information even though they know the calls are recorded. The desire to get information out is greater than the desire to not have prosecutors privy to that information. In Telles' case, he wanted to tell his story so badly that he didn't care that it was more likely to hurt him than help.
This Jury Foreperson did a very good job! And those jurors did a good job, and they got it right!! Telles DNA found under German's fingernails ought to have alerted ALL jurors right at the beginning of deliberations that Telles was guilty, case closed!! I think that is why most people thought it should have been a very quick guilty verdict by the jurors?!! And yes, Telles testimony on the witness stand was full of lies, especially given his testimony in the narrative format!! That was telling that even his own attorney knew he was lying!! The only thing Telles said that I believe was the truth was that he did have an extramarital affair with Roberta!! And Telles poor, beautiful wife! I can't believe she is still married to Telles after he cheated on her, he almost choked her out, and he drove *her* car to commit the murder!! Such huge betrayals!! I hope she finds the strength to divorce him and move on in her life! She could do way, way better than Telles!
Wow that one juror isn’t very bright at all. She doesn’t get how he could make so many mistakes. Ummm criminals are known to be stupid. She needs to hear the story about the bank robber that was asked to fill out a withdrawal slip. He put all his info in it 😆 But Telles is so arrogant and a narcissistic psychopath that he truly truly believed he would get away with this, no matter what he did so making all those “mistakes” meant nothing to him.
Im always surprised when people are like 'oh what took the jury so long ' .... Like when youre in charge of a person's actual life, you should take a long time, you should sleeo on it, dont make rash quick decisions no matter how obvious it may seem , otherwise youre just as bad
I didn't want Telles to be the one who did it, but I don't get to make that decision. Once I heard Telles' DNA was under German's fingernails, I knew right off Telles was involved.
R.e. The juror who didn’t want to convict Telles because she “just couldn’t believe someone would make so many dumb mistakes” committing the crime….. ummmmm….Does she not know what DNA is? Like, I mean that literally- do you think this human being actually literally does not know about the existence of DNA and what it is and how it identifies people? I’m struggling trying to understand how you could have chunks of Telles’ flesh lodged under Germans fingernails on the one hand, and some “pretty dumb mistakes” on the other hand, and your conclusion is- “nope. No WAY he made the dumb mistakes. Someone must have cut bits of Telles’ flesh off while he was sleeping without him noticing and installed it under Jeff Germans finger nails in order to frame him for a murder, because there’s JUST NO WAY Telles could’ve made a mistake while committing a crime.”….. What. The. Absolute. FCK.
Scary to think that, if Telles didn't do his narrative form testimony, the jury may not have found him guilty...even with all of that evidence. Glad they came to the right conclusion.
The best thing is Telles now knows he sunk his own case because his narcissism wouldn't allow him not to take the stand. He may have gotten a mistrial but he probably would have been toast his second trial.
I only had a problem with this jury foreman stating “prove his innocence”.! As we’re all aware one does not have to prove thier innocence but be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt.! Hope he understood his jury instructions. 🤷🏻♂️
It's hard to look at another human being in the population and judge that they did something that virtually no other human being would do. Why was he so sloppy? He's not a professional murderer. It's that simple. He was a government worker. Even in his capacity working for the government, with as many years under his belt as he had, he could still be sloppy at that. Even the highest functioning people have their absolute stumbles and of all places I would expect it, it would be in a situation that high stress and high risk. Plotting to murder another human being is about as high stress and high risk as can happen in anybody's life. Good riddance. He is a dangerous person. His stories and concoctions that all of these separate players and groups are all cohorts against him are just poorly conceived fiction. Maybe even as poorly conceived as this plot.
"The more they heard, the less they believed."
lol right
I saw his lawyers case blow up the whole time he talked
These jurors should be commended for looking over everything from point A to point B so seriously while at the same time (as was shown by the changing opinions of the jurors across the several days of deliberations and the ultimate ability of all twelve jurors to reach a unanimous verdict) also being willing to change their minds and base their conclusions on their review and analysis of all of the evidence in this case. If every jury was as diligent as this one, Americans could have faith that in courts across the country, just verdicts would almost always be reached.
Thank you very much to this juror to share that information. Excellent.
Yeah he thought he was the smartest person in the room!
Why don't you play the full interview rather than telling us what he said?
Because this is called "a report". This is a clip in a 30 minute slot for the news. If your misguided trust of the media is too much, the whole interview is available just so you can hear what the jury foreman said, so go view it just so you can hear in long form what the jury foreman said. Just as the media reported.
Just that simple.
It's called "a report" in a 30 minute slot for the news. They have three to four minutes for each report. The whole interview is available for those who need to be spoonfed a 30 minute interview. The rest of us can get the report and the important stuff in three minutes.
I kept skipping forward to hear the juror’s voice, and it was already at midpoint.
This is why people are leaving legacy media. On RUclips, you could get the entire 30+ min interview, often Live, with chat asking questions. Instead, we get a 2 min clip of the interview- most of which is a voiceover explaining the case again
@@damiondmoore Sorry if a dumb question, but where is the whole 30 min interview?
For everyone watching the trial at home it would seem everyone believed him guilty as well, which he obviously is.
Telles had some very talented defensive attorneys but his choice to be on the stand was a monumental mistake, he was definitely his own worst witness.
The prosecution attorneys were very talented as well.
Thank you very much for your service, taking the time to carefully look at all the evidence and coming to a correct verdict.
Telles' attorneys were frankly top tier. They did the best they could with a difficult client. I've seen a few interviews with them after the case and it's obvious from the way they talk that they knew he was guilty, but gave it their all anyway.
What little I saw of this case it should’ve taken you people 12 minutes not 12 hours to convict this predatory murderer.
Thank you for seeing through this crazy person
Why didn't Telles DNA found under the victims fingernails convince the jury member?
They aren't the brightest. And they keep telling us just how dumb they are. SMH
Or his shoes, hat, car, dna I mean holy shit this should have been a twenty minute deliberation
swear to god i’m not impressed by their “thoroughness”. Also the pure irony of the juror holding out because “how could he be so dumb” while simultaneously being stupid about the evidence. It’s THERE
@@whatareuthinking1Less than that!
Exactly, low IQ jurists. I understand withholding judgement until you go over all the evidence and innocent until proven guilty, but with all the forensic evidence it should have been a 2-hour discussion at most - not three days. We have BEEN conditioned by tic toc and the internet to believe all kinds of silly theories: flat earth, election fraud, fake moon landing, a pro hit man kills a reporter to frame this man... If they want to do away with this former pol, why would they not just have the hitman kill him? Marrons.
“How someone could be that stupid?” You just saw how they are that stupid!!
And yet Telles finished law school at UNLV Boyd Law School and became a lawyer. Shows you what a JOKE law school they must be..........LOL!!!!!
@@hotrod5622 people also do really dumb stuff when they’re extremely upset or emotionally agitated, too.
Extreme anger/rage definitely affects your ability to think rationally and to process risk and all that stuff.
Of course
Telles is as every other narcissist; his own worst enemy
If only he did not take the stand... He might have gotten away with it, even with all the DNA evidence... And these people can vote.... makes me scared.
Bro may have gotten not guilty or hung jury if he didn’t take the stand 😂😂😂😂😂 rough.
I have a theory that it's a similar psychological phenomenon to how inmates on jailhouse calls will spew sensitive information even though they know the calls are recorded. The desire to get information out is greater than the desire to not have prosecutors privy to that information. In Telles' case, he wanted to tell his story so badly that he didn't care that it was more likely to hurt him than help.
But incredible that the jurors did not see him as guilty without his testimony. DNA under the finger nails of the victim, come on jury!!!
I’m very concerned..
No way he gets "not guilty" with that DNA evidence. His best hope was a hung jury. And I think a lot of us were getting nervous he might get that.
@@lilg2300 Not the brightest. And this one didn't bother hiding his face unlike the first one. Unbelievable.
I wanna see the FULL 30 minute interview. Not a 3 minute summary!
This Jury Foreperson did a very good job! And those jurors did a good job, and they got it right!! Telles DNA found under German's fingernails ought to have alerted ALL jurors right at the beginning of deliberations that Telles was guilty, case closed!! I think that is why most people thought it should have been a very quick guilty verdict by the jurors?!! And yes, Telles testimony on the witness stand was full of lies, especially given his testimony in the narrative format!! That was telling that even his own attorney knew he was lying!! The only thing Telles said that I believe was the truth was that he did have an extramarital affair with Roberta!! And Telles poor, beautiful wife! I can't believe she is still married to Telles after he cheated on her, he almost choked her out, and he drove *her* car to commit the murder!! Such huge betrayals!! I hope she finds the strength to divorce him and move on in her life! She could do way, way better than Telles!
Just release the 30 minute interview.
I am sure they will.
Wow that one juror isn’t very bright at all. She doesn’t get how he could make so many mistakes. Ummm criminals are known to be stupid. She needs to hear the story about the bank robber that was asked to fill out a withdrawal slip. He put all his info in it 😆 But Telles is so arrogant and a narcissistic psychopath that he truly truly believed he would get away with this, no matter what he did so making all those “mistakes” meant nothing to him.
So the evidence was so overwhelming that he’s innocent what in the hell 🥴
I don't know where they found the 12 dumbest people in Las Vegas to get on a jury. SMH
What took so long? This was a slam dunk case. And why the lightest sentence?
This jury was a hot mess.
Not sure how you go past DNA to look at anything else. Someone is convinced by the SUV but not the DNA? Makes zero sense.
Im always surprised when people are like 'oh what took the jury so long ' .... Like when youre in charge of a person's actual life, you should take a long time, you should sleeo on it, dont make rash quick decisions no matter how obvious it may seem , otherwise youre just as bad
I didn't want Telles to be the one who did it, but I don't get to make that decision. Once I heard Telles' DNA was under German's fingernails, I knew right off Telles was involved.
Robert should not have testified in his own defense. HUGE MISTAKE!!!!!
His lawyers tried to tell him.
THE EVIDENCE WAS OVERWHELMING
Sounds like some of those jurors were really stupid. How is it possible anyone could think the dude wasn't guilty? LOL.
Telles is his own worst enemy whoever that 1 person was thinking how could someone do this really has not been in society too much or be a juror imo
How were you unsure? SMDH 3 days SMDH! Why are you even speaking out? Y'all should be embarrassed for taking so long.
R.e. The juror who didn’t want to convict Telles because she “just couldn’t believe someone would make so many dumb mistakes” committing the crime….. ummmmm….Does she not know what DNA is? Like, I mean that literally- do you think this human being actually literally does not know about the existence of DNA and what it is and how it identifies people?
I’m struggling trying to understand how you could have chunks of Telles’ flesh lodged under Germans fingernails on the one hand, and some “pretty dumb mistakes” on the other hand, and your conclusion is- “nope. No WAY he made the dumb mistakes. Someone must have cut bits of Telles’ flesh off while he was sleeping without him noticing and installed it under Jeff Germans finger nails in order to frame him for a murder, because there’s JUST NO WAY Telles could’ve made a mistake while committing a crime.”…..
What. The. Absolute. FCK.
Had to be more than just his own testimony that sunk him. He continually pleaded his innocence during his time on the stand.
Looking forward to Telles finding out his own testimony sunk him!
I think political affiliation came into the decision of jurors that initially wanted to find Telles as not guilty.
Scary to think that, if Telles didn't do his narrative form testimony, the jury may not have found him guilty...even with all of that evidence. Glad they came to the right conclusion.
I really don’t know how any juror could believe one thing he said. I’d have been voting guilty a second after crossing the jury room threshold.
I really hope he sees this
I love how Telles pointed out his shoe lifts, which explains why the man in the straw hat might appear shorter than Telles appeared in the courtroom.
just one conspiracy theorist believer and jury is all over the place
It’s pathetic
You bet, I think they are politically affiliated with Telles hence why they wanted to vote not guilty.
Why does that reporter have a beaver attached to his face?
The best thing is Telles now knows he sunk his own case because his narcissism wouldn't allow him not to take the stand. He may have gotten a mistrial but he probably would have been toast his second trial.
Jury was weak af on that sentence
Getting his 15 min of fame.
He should literally be embarrassed.
Telles would’ve made a great executive at Enron
DNA under German’s fingernails.
And one more hit man gets away. Illuminati wins again!😮
dude is toasted you drunk jury
I only had a problem with this jury foreman stating “prove his innocence”.! As we’re all aware one does not have to prove thier innocence but be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt.! Hope he understood his jury instructions. 🤷🏻♂️
I knew cue ball was guilty the moment I saw his picture....
It's hard to look at another human being in the population and judge that they did something that virtually no other human being would do. Why was he so sloppy? He's not a professional murderer. It's that simple. He was a government worker. Even in his capacity working for the government, with as many years under his belt as he had, he could still be sloppy at that. Even the highest functioning people have their absolute stumbles and of all places I would expect it, it would be in a situation that high stress and high risk. Plotting to murder another human being is about as high stress and high risk as can happen in anybody's life.
Good riddance. He is a dangerous person. His stories and concoctions that all of these separate players and groups are all cohorts against him are just poorly conceived fiction. Maybe even as poorly conceived as this plot.
So was it him in the orange raincoat or someone eise
Is this the that guys like his 15 seconds of fame?
Not the nerd who wants 2 be famous n Las Vegas not Gregory your still a nerd not famous
you sound bitter...
Uhh
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