@@cle4tle yeah aint no way a mouse is that slow, how would it manage to be precise EDIT: I looked at the datasheet of the ADNS-2610 chip. Basically it has different registers for either X and Y movement and a pixel data one. (there's others as well) So apparently it can compute internally the X and Y movement, as it only needs to send that, as opposed to sending the whole image, which makes sense why it's slow in this case.
@@CreepyMemes the sensor also has delta_X and delta_Y registers and does tracking internally, I assume in normal operation the raw image data isn't read through SPI
7:23 Well, I did such a project back in 2005... but I used the good old DB25 (LPT) as an interface and even wrote a simple webcam driver for it... and somehow get like 12fps of a resolution 16x16pix... and it worked perfectly through my 33.6kbit/s dial-up connection =))
Beat you to it by about 20 years? We've done such a camera back then, trying to make it into a slightly smarter motion sensor, with a quick response low resolution image stream. Probably because the sensor is not as good as today, we found that the sensor has a too low dynamic range and can only be used indoor and in a dim environment. Glad to know it works now!
Man IDK what they injected into the algorithm over there at YT HQ but I'm getting the feshest content for a while. Another great channel to sub. Keep on with the jokes, even tho the cricket chirps was cute, I actually laughed at that silly joke so totally no need for the crickets. Keep the good content coming (and this is good content) and you will grow and succeed I'm sure of it. Also great video.
Wow! Well done! I gave you a big thumbs up. Next week make it in colour, and I mean not by scanning the black and white sensor for fractions of microseconds (every colour has its own frequency, by turning on and off the sensor, the colour can by interpreted by the length of the phase) Although, I think you need quicker processors for that. Colour detection can be done with optical filters but that needs fine mechanics. Luckily colour can also be detected by changing the frequency of the light, add a number of different LEDs and let that light shine on the object, red light is not reflected by blue objects etc. After a rainbow of colours the real colour of the image can be calculated. Than you finally can see your cat in colour.
That is not an accurate understanding of how visible-wavelength sensors work. Visible light image sensors of even very high end cameras are not electromagnetic devices, they are photoelectric devices, i.e. not sensitive to phase. You cannot get visible-band color information from a black and white sensor through any kind of sampling or gating scheme even if you're able to sample or gate at daylight frequencies.
@@AJMansfield1 I am sorry, you can but at this moment not a single optical sensor is fast enough to do so. Not so long ago in electronics magnificent things were done by looking at the phase, the same thing can be done with light as soon as there is some development. The fact that it is not jet possible right now does not place a barrier for thinking further then what is achieved at this moment.
@@vanhetgoor Believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about as applied to radio and microwave frequencies - quadrature sampling is a fairly ubiquitous technique used in all kinds of radio devices to extract phase information from a signal. At visible wavelengths though, the feature size you need in order to construct filter elements that are reactive to those frequencies starts to reach the point where the only construction method possible is "stacking thin films into a filter", and it's not really possible to include active elements in the effective "circuit" formed this way. The way that ccd or cmos camera sensors operate involves an entirely different physical principle - they do not measure the electromagnetic fields directly using an antenna, but rather count the rate of discrete photon events, based on the current across a suitably-tuned semiconductor junction. It's not a matter of "good enough", it's actually a totally fundamentally different way of measuring light. And without some novel breakthrough in the design of the sensor cell, phase information will always be lost by that photon bandgap process.
I swear there was software I had in Win98 days that would let me scan with my mouse. No mods, just a particular chip in the mouse. (which I was fortunate to have) I'm pretty sure it was a PS2 mouse as I was also doing poll rate overclocking on it.
You should have scanned the bank note, by slowly going over it with the mouse, line by line, capturing the data and later stitching it together. Would have probably been a lot of work. But would have also been amazing. Missed opportunity. :D
This perfect blend of technically impressive and utterly pointless is what makes my brain happy. Do newer, more modern mice have a higher resolution photosensor I wonder?
You don't need high resolution for image velocity sensing. You just need enough speed and wide enough angle to resolve any difference that will happen within 1-2 frames.
You are genius..... A genius only can make what project i thought years ago...it was fun for me that time 1. A memory divice having tiny coil heads and few plate of farric oxide coating...same like reel in taperecorder..... Feo2 paste can be apply over tiny self made thin plastic disks using screen printing stancil....a watch moter can be used to rotate and another for movment of head😂
very brilliant thought concept & having correct infrastructure to realize it, what about mice who have invisible light source i tried closely to look with a digital camera couldn't see anything if it was IR would have shown white, i managed to see the dim red laser dot of a laser mouse.
Why not use the ESP32’s dedicated SPI hardware with a diode and resistor to merge the two data pins into one? I assume the image sensor runs I/O at 3.3V.
i'd love to see this done with a more modern mouse, and even if the resolution isn't much higher, you can use the data from multiple captures to increase the resolution by also using the original motion tracking of the mouse to put more pixels between the ones you have
Sir, I think your mouse hack is really cool, I really liked it, congratulations on the work, I'm going to do something for myself too with this mouse camera, and thanks for the idea
nice! such cheap (easy to find as recycled...) sensors could be used as image-detection for home automation presence detection: I did make some tests with USB webcam connected to a MCU and it's okay, only need a good pattern recognition layer
I doubt it makes a lot of difference in this case, but generally with this kind of data it'd be better if you used websockets in binary mode, sending raw bytes as-is. Don't waste energy on JSON ;)
Nice video, thanks for sharing it. The one data line SPI is the I2C (it is open drain, not push-pull like SPI but it has to be). It is supported with the Wire.h library. 3 fps is pretty wierd a mouse must respond much faster.
If it is I2C then the master is probably the one determining the clock. 18x18 pixels with (guess) 8 bit resolution and wanting something like at least 60Hz refresh rate (again a very rough guess, some mice claim >1000Hz) would require around 150kbit/s. Many I2C devices can operate at 400kHz, so that should be feasible. I hence think the 3Hz will be a limitation by the implementation on the ESP32.
Now take a full frame sensor and make the most powerful mouse on earth !
Not as powerful as an NYC mouse. They growl and hiss at you and they have knives, guns and gangs.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind Lame comment
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@@stoobidthing lame thread
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would be really interesting to see what a modern high dpi mouse could do. 🤔
231 likes and no replies? Lemme fix that
It would still be better than the bank's security camera
I was actually thinking of this! I started making plans for a modern 16000DPI mouse sensor, and then connect 9 of them to create a full frame sensor
I may be wrong, but I believe this is how most UFO and hauntings videos are filmed
I feel like you should be able to get higher frame rate out of that sensor... I think the ESP mini board was a limiting factor there
No, the limiting factor was the sensor. Reading the images without error takes that long.
maybe with a newer gaming sensor you would be able to do that
@@cle4tle yeah aint no way a mouse is that slow, how would it manage to be precise
EDIT: I looked at the datasheet of the ADNS-2610 chip. Basically it has different registers for either X and Y movement and a pixel data one. (there's others as well)
So apparently it can compute internally the X and Y movement, as it only needs to send that, as opposed to sending the whole image, which makes sense why it's slow in this case.
@@CreepyMemes the sensor also has delta_X and delta_Y registers and does tracking internally, I assume in normal operation the raw image data isn't read through SPI
@@CreepyMemeseverything happens inside the same chip, in normal operation only the movement vectors are communicated, not the image.
7:23 Well, I did such a project back in 2005... but I used the good old DB25 (LPT) as an interface and even wrote a simple webcam driver for it... and somehow get like 12fps of a resolution 16x16pix... and it worked perfectly through my 33.6kbit/s dial-up connection =))
You still were using modem in 2005?
@@imperia777I had to cope with dial up in rural south of Milan until 2007, so it's possibile
@@fabiosemino2214my uncle had a dial up until 2009-10. He said he didn't need anything better. Atlast he did get fiber optic.
@@imperia777 Yes we used dial up to 2008.
I know people in rural Arkansas who were using dialup in 2011.
i am astonished by the fact that simple interpolations can build a fairly good video from a bunch of pixels
POV: You're a bank security camera
Beat you to it by about 20 years? We've done such a camera back then, trying to make it into a slightly smarter motion sensor, with a quick response low resolution image stream. Probably because the sensor is not as good as today, we found that the sensor has a too low dynamic range and can only be used indoor and in a dim environment. Glad to know it works now!
7:24 local man reinvents the bank security camera
Man i was confused for a second and thought you somehow connected a camera to a real mouse's brain or something.
A cat captured by a mouse... oh the irony...
7:15 *POV: you’re the detective trying to solve the bank heist*
That is what I call, thinking out of the mouse! sorry I mean the Box!
I think your "mouse camera" is much better than many CCTV cameras these days 😂😂
Man IDK what they injected into the algorithm over there at YT HQ but I'm getting the feshest content for a while. Another great channel to sub. Keep on with the jokes, even tho the cricket chirps was cute, I actually laughed at that silly joke so totally no need for the crickets. Keep the good content coming (and this is good content) and you will grow and succeed I'm sure of it. Also great video.
Wow! Well done! I gave you a big thumbs up.
Next week make it in colour, and I mean not by scanning the black and white sensor for fractions of microseconds (every colour has its own frequency, by turning on and off the sensor, the colour can by interpreted by the length of the phase) Although, I think you need quicker processors for that. Colour detection can be done with optical filters but that needs fine mechanics. Luckily colour can also be detected by changing the frequency of the light, add a number of different LEDs and let that light shine on the object, red light is not reflected by blue objects etc. After a rainbow of colours the real colour of the image can be calculated. Than you finally can see your cat in colour.
The cat itself is black and white, though.
That is not an accurate understanding of how visible-wavelength sensors work. Visible light image sensors of even very high end cameras are not electromagnetic devices, they are photoelectric devices, i.e. not sensitive to phase. You cannot get visible-band color information from a black and white sensor through any kind of sampling or gating scheme even if you're able to sample or gate at daylight frequencies.
@@AJMansfield1 I am sorry, you can but at this moment not a single optical sensor is fast enough to do so. Not so long ago in electronics magnificent things were done by looking at the phase, the same thing can be done with light as soon as there is some development. The fact that it is not jet possible right now does not place a barrier for thinking further then what is achieved at this moment.
@@vanhetgoor Believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about as applied to radio and microwave frequencies - quadrature sampling is a fairly ubiquitous technique used in all kinds of radio devices to extract phase information from a signal. At visible wavelengths though, the feature size you need in order to construct filter elements that are reactive to those frequencies starts to reach the point where the only construction method possible is "stacking thin films into a filter", and it's not really possible to include active elements in the effective "circuit" formed this way.
The way that ccd or cmos camera sensors operate involves an entirely different physical principle - they do not measure the electromagnetic fields directly using an antenna, but rather count the rate of discrete photon events, based on the current across a suitably-tuned semiconductor junction. It's not a matter of "good enough", it's actually a totally fundamentally different way of measuring light. And without some novel breakthrough in the design of the sensor cell, phase information will always be lost by that photon bandgap process.
For higher resolution I think a gaming mouse might be better as they have higher DPI .
Thanks for the great video ! Keep it up
I'm not sure if this is the most useless camera or the most useless mouse, but it looks great for taking UFO and bigfoot videos.
So we finally find out who has been making potato cameras.
Amasing!
It can be used to make precious end of range sensor for CNC or 3D printing
我曾经也想过既然鼠标原理和相机类似，但是没有能力验证，看了作者的视频，终于了却疑虑。
感谢作者。
Looks like your pictures come from Mars
How many people thought he did brain surgery on an actual mouse to make the camera see through the mouses eyeballs? I certainly did.
I swear there was software I had in Win98 days that would let me scan with my mouse. No mods, just a particular chip in the mouse. (which I was fortunate to have) I'm pretty sure it was a PS2 mouse as I was also doing poll rate overclocking on it.
Yeah, definitely. This is old school. I first saw someone take a picture of themselves about 20 years ago.
You should have scanned the bank note, by slowly going over it with the mouse, line by line, capturing the data and later stitching it together. Would have probably been a lot of work. But would have also been amazing. Missed opportunity. :D
"And this thing here is a dust particle." - only way this could've been funnier would've been if he had added "for scale" to that sentence 🤣
This mouse video quality is still better than bank security camera footage
Now you have the perfect camera for filming Big Foot and UFOs!
I already filmed an alien and his cat on Melmac :)
I always knew my mouse is watching me.
Looking what I'm doing. Patiently sitting there. Observing me... Watching me... Judging me...
Bro made a high quality surveillance camera by 2008 standards using a mouse
I think John Logie Baird must have used an optical mouse for his experiments in early television, as the pictures look very similar! 🤣
This is what I've been looking for for a long time, according to my mind
How I imagine someone with severe cataracts to see.
Still has better vision than me without my glasses 😅
I came for the tech, but stayed for the dry humor! Great channel!
Next one up: take a WebCam and make a super-mouse from it 😺
6:22 - when video speaks with your inner voice (okay) 😂😂
This is the type of camera sensor that pictures UFO
You should look at the self-flushing toilet cameras. They have a much higher resolution.
Oh dear god
Amazing Work! Greetings from Argentina!
Just as a reminder, in the 2000s, there was some program around to use your optical mouse as a scanner.
I may have to recreate this as a game design artist. I think this would be an amazing way to natively scan in drawing with a pixelate filter over them
It's neat that by using an old Logitech mouse you're able to make a camera of comparable quality to their first webcams. 😂😂😂
This has been on my shower thoughts for a long time. Thank you...
Better quality than most security cams
The Waaw at 2:46 is Eddy Wally, deceased Belgian singer.
Thumbs up for the guardian cat
Next project. Diy homing rocket using computer mouse parts!
This perfect blend of technically impressive and utterly pointless is what makes my brain happy. Do newer, more modern mice have a higher resolution photosensor I wonder?
Even newer mice have a resolution like this.
You don't need high resolution for image velocity sensing. You just need enough speed and wide enough angle to resolve any difference that will happen within 1-2 frames.
Neat. I guess that's the highest performance mouse camera we can make, then?
Decent office mice have a sensor resolution of typically 18x18 or 19x19 and gaming mice up to 29x29 that i have seen.
The next project could be a microphone from a mini HDD, so you have a complete webcam😁.
There's a UFO above the house quickly get the mouse!
The best sensors to use have a 32x32 or 31x31 pixel array.
Now take a thousand of those sensors and make a lens array to capture HD video.
Thank you for the captions! What an incredible video, you are amazing! 🖤
makes me think a lot of a device we use for vtubing called a 'leap motion' which is an IR sensor type of camera, mainly used for tracking hands.
Now add some colored tints in front of the lens to make some colored pictures in the post proccesing!
Brilliant. This is something I have wanted to try for years, thanks for providing the details
Awesome, now lets hook this up to a live image generator and make some animations!! 🎉😊
Great Dr. volt, you're the best. Greetings from an old technician.
I think the 8 bit guy did something similar to this a few years ago
Big thumbs Up for your hardwork and for a new invention you created.
This is the camera they used to film Bigfoot
This is about the quality of a camera i expected from a gameboy camera, i was wrong
Bro just made a bank security cam
You are genius.....
A genius only can make what project i thought years ago...it was fun for me that time
1. A memory divice having tiny coil heads and few plate of farric oxide coating...same like reel in taperecorder.....
Feo2 paste can be apply over tiny self made thin plastic disks using screen printing stancil....a watch moter can be used to rotate and another for movment of head😂
A DIY harddisk 😂
@@DoctorVolt yes true😁
now we know how bank cameras are made
New camera for bigfoot sightings
RUclips should require every video to include a kitty.
You CANNOT be successful on RUclips without a cat!
bigfoot footage be like
I think all the UFO videos were shot with a mouse camera like that.
very brilliant thought concept & having correct infrastructure to realize it, what about mice who have invisible light source i tried closely to look with a digital camera couldn't see anything if it was IR would have shown white, i managed to see the dim red laser dot of a laser mouse.
POV: you don't have a webcam but you're too lazy to go to a store and just buy it:
Thank you for your hard work making this, I have been enlightened.
Why not use the ESP32’s dedicated SPI hardware with a diode and resistor to merge the two data pins into one? I assume the image sensor runs I/O at 3.3V.
I am better at programming than at developing circuits. Besides, additional circuits would have taken up too much space.
i'd love to see this done with a more modern mouse, and even if the resolution isn't much higher, you can use the data from multiple captures to increase the resolution by also using the original motion tracking of the mouse to put more pixels between the ones you have
Modern mice don't have debug pins on their sensors for ouputting raw iamges. Only the old ones.
Amazing stuff. Now let's take some UFO pictures : )
Sir, I think your mouse hack is really cool, I really liked it, congratulations on the work, I'm going to do something for myself too with this mouse camera, and thanks for the idea
Serious application vould hr used to detect astronomy events if you could design it to look through a telescope
nice! such cheap (easy to find as recycled...) sensors could be used as image-detection for home automation presence detection: I did make some tests with USB webcam connected to a MCU and it's okay, only need a good pattern recognition layer
best face reveal of ever
This is the future! 🥶
Hah dein Akzent und der 20€ Schein haben dich verraten 😂
Feels like this should now be wrapped in a potato
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That mouse can see better than my right eye
Very cool!! You've got mad tech skills
I was looking for this video for a month now I found it😊
Next Video: I make a mouse out of a digital-camera
I doubt it makes a lot of difference in this case, but generally with this kind of data it'd be better if you used websockets in binary mode, sending raw bytes as-is. Don't waste energy on JSON ;)
But JSON is really easy to use. Especially on JavaScript
@@DoctorVolt ArrayBuffers and DataViews are easy too once you get a grasp of it, it's just that people don't want to even try it ;(
Excellent work!
Cool.
Now hack the pentagon.
it's great, you should try to do an application with an AI to improve the quality
i have no idea what youre talking about but very cool. and nice poem :)
I’m impressed, you earned a sub
Ohhh... So this is what people use to capture UFOs. 🤔
Now you should turn a cheap camera into a mouse
this is a great mouse for the commodore amiga just modify the 9 pin and connect directly to the chip
Nice video, thanks for sharing it. The one data line SPI is the I2C (it is open drain, not push-pull like SPI but it has to be). It is supported with the Wire.h library. 3 fps is pretty wierd a mouse must respond much faster.
If it is I2C then the master is probably the one determining the clock. 18x18 pixels with (guess) 8 bit resolution and wanting something like at least 60Hz refresh rate (again a very rough guess, some mice claim >1000Hz) would require around 150kbit/s. Many I2C devices can operate at 400kHz, so that should be feasible. I hence think the 3Hz will be a limitation by the implementation on the ESP32.
I think all UFO and alien videos are being recorded using the same camera
Nice project but unfortunately the ADNS 2610 is difficult to find right now.