My wife was killed in a car accident, so I can tell you from personal experience that society seems completely blind to the fact that there are single fathers. Then again I have the proud memory of my two girls taking me out to breakfast for Father’s Day, only to hear one of the three Karens sitting behind my daughters raising a toast to “single moms who are doing double duty all on our own”. My oldest then raised her glass of orange juice and toasted me for “doing double duty without bragging about it or feeling sorry about having to do what a parent is supposed to do”. The three Karens were awfully quiet after that, and left fairly quickly.
@ready7307 that's the sad reality of getting justice, because justice isn't a given, it's a fight. You gotta fight for civil rights, you gotta fight to clear your name, right wrongs, snuff out lies, everyday. And it doesn't get any easier.
Story 2: as a guy. I would be still going to the park. I would be an extra annoyance to the cops in calling them and saying "hello local police station. I am (first and last name). I am taking my daughter to the park today. I want you to make a note of this because the last time. Someone accused me of being a bad person."
Story 1 - I’ll admit that I thought that Karen’s kid was gonna steal OP’s chair and demand to be pushed in it or something, turning this into a ‘Let my baby play with it, you clearly don’t need it since you can obviously stand up. You’re just being lazy’ situation. But what OP did to that kid was just as good.
Story 2 - What an evil witch. Traumatizing an innocent child like that and causing trouble to OP’s family. They should filed a report on Karen for the false police report and harassment.
I’m honestly kinda shocked they did so much about someone reported as a “pedo”. It seems pedos barely get any time. I saw where California cops told the guys from one of those channels where they catfish chomos then call police, the officer told them on camera that they could arrest the guy but the da wouldn’t prosecute so there was no point. When they do get time it’s minor compared to other crimes. It’s crazy but that’s why I was surprised they went so far with the dad. When my son was 6 I think we’d taken him to Dave & busters & we left & drove to the hotel we were going to stay at (my husband & I had just reconciled but hadn’t found an apartment yet) just before we turned into the hotel parking lot the blue lights went on. Several cop cars were there. They cuffed my husband & put him in their car & told us someone reported us for kidnapping, saying they heard the kid saying no I don’t want to go or i don’t want to go with you or something like that. Our son never said anything like that so 🤷🏻♀️. I was flipping out trying to show them pictures, ss card, his bookbag w/ all his paperwork that I’d brought to show his dad cause he was about to start kindergarten. Our son was shaking & scared. Everything was cleared up but it was still traumatic for our son especially being so young. We just told our son that everything was ok, that we would want the police to do exactly what they did if someone really had kidnapped him. But it wasn’t something we planned to worry our son about so soon. About kidnapping & what that meant. The only thing we can figure is that one of the Dave & buster employees called them. Earlier my son had won a lot of tickets but the machine didn’t spit them out so we tried to get the employee to help but he just ignored us. So we got a manager. Idk if the guy was reprimanded but that’s the only person we had any negative interaction with & our son never said “no I don’t want to go” or anything close to that. 🤷🏻♀️ It’s seems like a reach but there was just nothing else that happened that could’ve led to this. They told the police our truck mode, color, & tag & describes us. (We were one of the last groups there & left just before they closed) I hate that their daughter is scared now.
@@michaelcolfin8464 Anyone who claims such thing should get the full sentence themselves (as well be registered and put on permanent record) with no chance to lower the sentence.
I have a kind of opposite story about being a suspicious single man in a park. After separating from my first wife I rented a house near to a public park. I used to enjoy going there early in the morning before families arrived and it got crowded. It was the perfect place for me to sit under a tree and read a book or just meditated. Once the families started arriving in the mid morning I would usually leave because it was no longer comfortable for me. I could hear parents calling out to their children like, "Jason, come back here, don't go near that man!" As a single man in the park I had become a creature of suspicion and distrust. One day while my 5yo daughter was with me I took her to the park. I sat under my usual tree where I could keep an eye on her playing. While I was sitting there a woman approached me with a young girl in tow, about the same age as my daughter. To my surprise she asked me to mind he daughter while she left the park to go to a shop. Even though she didn't know me the very fact I was with my daughter had miraculously transformed me from a dangerous beast into a reliable and responsible parent
Story one: Over the top? yes, maybe a little. Funny AF? Also yes, I was laughing my ass off! Story two: Mild mannered or not, dad should have pressed defamation charges against that vile individual. The police also dropped the ball, they should have arrested her for filing a false police report.
Story 2 is yet another case of people always treating men as monsters and causing more harm because of it. The karen and the cops all handled that so horribly and OP and their family should probably sue. The kid is legitimately traumatized due to this whole thing which is so sad.
Single dads of daughters get a lot of flack. When I was living in military housing, our next door neighbor's flakey, cheating wife decided to abandon him and their two small daughters and also took a job on a cruise ship, so she was completely gone. He was constantly getting picked on by the daycare workers and preschool teachers. Once cps was called and he was required to take his daughter to the doctor to confirm that an obvious birth mark on her back was not a bruise. Another time they literally were questioning the children to ask if any of them had seen their father naked, and then reported him because his daughter had walked in on him in the bathroom as he was getting out of the shower, in a one bathroom townhouse. They told him he should have locked the bathroom door, even though he was the only adult in the house with a toddler and a preschooler. He was a good person and a good dad, and he politely suffered through all the harassment.
@@herbie1975 In Europe, it's not uncommon to see your parent(s) naked in the bathroom, either take a bath together or when someone is on the toilet and they accidently come in. Or showering or places like designated areas for nudists, or when the parents are shaving themselves, etc........
@@herbie1975 Indeed it is. It's also not uncommon to kiss each others cheeck (wether they are a child or an adult, and you don't have to be family to do that, just good friends).
"the problem" I see with the US is, nudity equals sex. Nudity in europe is seen as, well, a naked person, no sexual context by just beeing naked.... In the US it is sexualized right away (so it feels). And having seen your parents naked, has nothing sexual to it. But well, they have to live with their standarts....
The kid needed the lesson and clearly his mother wasn't going to give him one. WELL DONE, I used to work in a place filled with kids and had perfected the look that said; "YOU ARE DEAD. I'm just deciding on the method" Amazing how fast those kids could understand.
@@JohnH20111 I never yell, so when i even slightly raise my voice in the classroom you can hear the meme playing = It was at this moment..... They knew, they f*cked up in Morgan Freeman's voice.
Story 2: They should file an official complaint against the police officers. Sure, they need to investigate if they get a report, but they don't need to _traumatize a little girl_ and harass an innocent father in the process. The way they conducted themselves in that situation should have been better. Also, in many places, if you get a fine for something like an expired registration that's only a week out of date, and you promptly fix the registration and then take in the ticket and proof that it's been fixed now, and explain the situation, as long as you don't have a history of abuses, etc, the police clerk will quite often be willing to just waive the ticket at that point and you won't be required to actually pay it. If nothing else, it can't hurt to ask...
Yeah, there was a time when I REALLY let my registration slide (I kept convincing myself it was too inconvenient), but I went to get that fixed right as soon as possible and decided to challenge the ticket in traffic court. Didn't even need to see the judge. I showed the paperwork at the desk and it was immediately dismissed.
Story 4: Imagine thinking you can just keep an entire public park all to yourself. Maybe get a private playground next time if you don't want people around your kids, and if that's not possible, well tough s**t
I work as a volunteer teacher at preschool (mostly) and the amount of side eyes ive gotten from parents, especially if they hug me on their own and stuff is quite sad. If the same happened if i was a female, no one would have batted an eye to me or think twice. We men are tired of the double standards.
Wheelchair story: IMO, well done OP! Wheelchairs are not toys and even a basic manual model costs hundreds of dollars. Plus, letting a young child just "climb" all over another person who can't really do anything to stop it is just... horrendously disrespectful and gross! I'd have been tempted to call the police without consulting the manager. I'd also consider going above the managers head to get more cameras installed to eliminate the blind spots. Unfortunately, for many the stereotype that only the mothers nurture children while fathers earn a living is still very prevalent. And that a man alone with a child is somehow "wrong". Add into that Karen's who simply thrive in creating chaos and it's suddenly a problem. Locked playground story: I would have called the non-emergency line for the police or fire department to have the lock cut. Or the city parks department.
Story #2: The way you answer the child's question is to explain calmly, "A pedo is somebody who does very bad things to children, and Papa is absolutely not one. That lady in the park thought he was, but she was wrong." Kids can get accurate answers without having to hear all the gruesome details.
@ready7307 In response to a child who might followup with "doesn't answer the question, though". "You're right honey, it doesn't answer the question. The exact definition of that is a grown-up topic that you don't need to know right now. All you need to know is that a pedo is someone who harms children in a really, really bad way. And your daddy is NOT one."
@heathmcconnell3901 It does answer the question, it just doesn't do so with a huge amount of detail. Most of the time, young children don't care about a huge amount of detail; they want enough that they can fit the word into their worldview, and what I suggested gives them that. But yes, if they do insist on continuing to press for further detail, your suggestion is a good next step. I would expect that to be more likely from slightly older children, who might well end up looking the word up on the internet if they don't get a satisfactory answer from their parents, but that's all right -- if they're old enough to find out on their own, they're probably old enough to absorb the answer without being traumatized.
@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS First of all, that's untrue. Lying to children is a terrible idea. Second of all, it won't satisfy the child's curiosity, so they'll keep asking... if they see that they can't get anything more out of you, they'll ask somebody else, but they'll ask. And if they ask someone else, you lose the ability to control the answer they're given.
The parents that locked the gate could be charged with false imprisonment which is defined as when someone is intentionally restricted from moving without legal authority or the person's permission.
Story #3: I'm just so happy that finally someone stood up to those Karen goons!! You should NEVER back down from some Karens and leave a public space just because of them. OP warning to call the cop was good and all, but he really should have called the, because the guy touched him.
I would have asked the cops if they got the name of that woman. Tell the cops they have a clear cut case of filing a false police report. I'd personally like to file a 10k lawsuit for her false accusations. She'll lose because she has zero proof.
Story 1 - Even if that Karen called the cops after finding out, they would have taken one look at the footage, read OP's report on the matter, then lectured the Karen on why she thought it would be good to allow her child to climb onto a disabled person. Also to add, back when I worked in retail I had one Karen of a mother in the store letting her kid run around and pull things off shelves. The manager had told her to reign her kid in or leave, she was waiting for a few coffees. I'd been working in the coolroom where we also have the walkin freezer to bring things out to the customer freezer, which I was in the process of doing. So came out from the back only to see the kid trying to open the door to the freezer and having heard the manager telling the mother to deal with her kid came up beside him, of course kids being kids and curious they asked what I was doing, so I leant down and said quietly. "Making sure I have room in the freezer out back for children who dont stay by their parents like good little kids should." There was another customer nearby who heard and immediately tried not to laugh, but that kid was much like the terrified kid should be and immediately went back to stand by his mother, who at that point was carrying her coffees and they didnt leave their side at all. Manager asked me what I said to the kid and I told him as the other customer who heard came to the counter and the pair couldnt help but laugh.
Story 1: Holy Sh!t! That was amazing! Like something straight out of a horror movie. That kid probably would have grown up to be a karen or worse given the behavior of his mother but i think that one move might have set them straight for life XD
Story 3: something tells me the entitled dude knew he committed a crime by breaking that lock, and violated his rental agreement, or he, and/or his friends, had a warrant out for their arrest
story 2: I might not be a father, but... goddamn if I witnessed that, I'd be catching Karen's license plate and reporting her to the cops and probably get CPS involved. Cause if she can't tell the difference between a predator and a father, she probably should not be around kids whatsoever.
Story 2: If the guy was not the father or a close relative he and the girl would have been long gone before the police arrived. The police handled this very very very poorly
The duty AND responsibility of a good parent is to make his children likable so everyone around will enjoy their presence. There are A LOT of bad parents!
No, Karens, you're not allowed to ""lock"" a PUBLIC park paid for by the TAXPAYERS just so YOUR kids can play without you watching them. Stop being lazy!
11:39 The minute that OP saw the old woman approach the cops, I'd bring my spouse with me to remind the cops that the old woman phones in a false police report during she's which she slandered and defamed me, and I want to press charges. If the cops say no, I'll thank them, get their n a names and badge numbers, then file a report with Internal Affairs (and the city District Attorney), that the cops are to be charged with being accomplices to the aforementioned crimes...
The cops have qualified immunity (which needs to end) in most US states, and even if the DA chooses to prosecute the old woman (who is completely in the wrong and deserves punishment) they'd need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew he wasn't taking pictures. It's not illegal to report non-crimes to the police unless you objectively lie. "Creepy" doesn't count because it's just an opinion and the rest of what the cops reported her as saying was technically true. My point isn't that she's innocent, only that the bar for false reporting is intentionally really high. Society doesn't benefit from having people fear to call police. It's sort of the same reason local cops are not supposed to be allowed to report people to immigration (which they do, and which is disgusting).
A double-dip Girl Scout story. We had a 3 part event planned, one afternoon we went to an orchard and gleanned 6-8 bushels of apples, followed by warm cider, cinnamon fried cakes. On our meeting night we cut away the bad spots, baked pies and 30 gal. of apple sauce, which we took to a shelter. The night we went was so cold, there were penquins s-scratching to get in. One of the girls had a hat, scarf, mitten thing her grandma had made, and she was proud of it. She gave it to a girl in line who didn't have a coat. Someone some dropped the girl off, and her mother called madder than a boiled owl, "How could you let her do that, BLAH, BLAH. I was proud of her. I suggested she complain to the scout office, as I was about to switch from my Girl Scout vocabulary to my slightly more colorful Navy vocabulary. I don't believe it takes all kinds...
Story #2, I'm glad I don't know someone that heartless. A little girl running up to hug her loving dad is one of the most wholesome precious things one can ever witness, IMHO.
Hey, folks? Just a gentle PSA. Mobility devices -- crutches, canes, walkers, wheelchairs, and the like -- are not for playing with or climbing on. Think on how you'd feel if random people kept messing with your legs and making it difficult (if not impossible) for you to move, with the possibility of permanent damage. Yeah. Please keep your kids from playing with these things, it's not okay.
Story 2 - This reminds me of when my kids were young, and my wife took my youngest to the YMCA with her, where they had a child care center with a playground. A few minutes later my oldest changed her mind about wanting to stay home, so I agreed to drop her off. I escorted her into the child care center to check her in, only to see a care worker behind the counter holding my youngest, who immediately started bawling when she saw me standing there momentarily ignoring her. I asked my oldest to run over and comfort her, but instead she "helpfully" bolted out the door and into the playground. So there I was, trying to convince the care worker that she was holding my daughter and that I could end her tantrum in a few seconds if she would just let me hold her for a bit. Eventually she went to find my very annoyed wife, who confirmed that I was indeed the father of her children, and she finally handed my screaming kid over to me. It took about 5 seconds for her to calm down before she finally pushed off of me to indicate that she wanted to be set down. As soon as I put her down she toddled out the door to the playground, and all was well again. I totally get where the care worker was coming from, since no self-respecting care worker would hand kids off to random people, but I wish she would have just asked for an ID or something. It would have saved everyone a lot of grief.
Your wife also indirectly confirmed you are allowed to see her child, an ID could prove you to be a relative but not if you have a restraining order etc or not.
Story 2: obviously she was never hugged by HER father because of how she is a worthless brat which she is still now and what she did made my blood boil I feel bad for the family
Actually that's common practice and it's very good for the child. If they're being intimidated it's harder to get them to tell the truth while close to the culprit.
@anondabomb it's an illegal common practice. Minors can't be questioned without the parents consent or presence as they don't have access to a lawyer. It's up to the parents to advocate for their children.
S1: That made me laugh out loud. Op did the right thing for the right reason. The child’s mother is a piece of crap because she’s not raising her child to be respectful of people or property. He’s going to be in and out of jail.
Story one you never TOUCH a person's wheelchair much less climb one it. As a retail person my bosses have made it clear that you never touch a person's chair.
Story 4, final update, talk about an entitled coward. He tried to talk a big game only to run back into his house and flip op off when threatened with cops again. I can't understand people like him. Especially to dare try to stop other kids from playing in a public playground and with their kids because their THAT entitled and snobbish.
It should be a felony to accuse someone of being a "pe*o" without proof, i.e. so in the 2nd story, after the cops came up and determined the truth, the Karen should be immediately arrested and charged an additional felony for each person she told. It's the type of accusation that destroys lives and too many people use it as a casual insult.
It's only a "civil" violation, not a felony, but the term is "defamation". The requirements to make a claim are: -the statement has to be false (seems pretty obvious here). -the statement has to reach a third party (as in, not the person being insulted, and not the person doing the insulting, in this case, even the daughter would count). -the person at fault only needs to have been negligent in making the claim, you don't have to demonstrate any intent to cause harm. -proof of damages - *UNLESS* the claim in question is a type of insult which meets the requirements for "defamation per se" - which is anything which can be understood to be automatically offensive and harmful without any need to prove specific damages - such as, for example, the exact insult used in this instance. In this instance, if there was a recording, or any other meaningful physical evidence, or even just a couple of people who heard the accusation and were willing to confirm the truth about what they heard, OP would have a pretty much airtight defamation case under US law. The only ways out are to show you didn't do it (which, if there's evidence you did, is going to be a non-option), or to show that you were telling the truth (which, again, doesn't appear to be true). Weirdly, I know more about the US laws for this than my own local laws about it, in spite of having had a near-miss on a court case relating to my local laws when I had someone spreading a false story claiming I had assaulted and robbed them. Good times.
@@gregorythomas333 yes, and they also explained some of their reasons *why* they were saying it should be a felony, and my explanation of the law which currently applies to the situation addresses those concerns, at least to a degree. So it was a relevant answer to their comment. By contrast, your reply added nothing of value to the conversation. Even if you had been right, your reply would only have served to further derail the conversation, and not been of any value to anything relevant to the discussion.
Story 3: If I were the ranger I would have fined the guy for illegally setting up the bounce houses too, but let it stay up only for the duration of the permit. And then scissors to the cords (both electrical and support) right at the end of the time period after exactly 1 warning to wrap it up. Whatever fine then they had to pay to the people who they hired the equipment from will be their responsibility.
Regarding the locked gate story: "You can't do (squat) without the police." Yeah, that's called living in civilization. You wanna live in a cave, go ahead, GTFO and leave the rest of us alone. It amazes me, how many supposed adults want to live in a playground rules world. I guess that's why the Mad Max movies were so popular. Not because people were horrified, but because that's their ideal life.
21:40: There was something to be done. Call the cops. What these entitled parents did was create a public nuisance, which IS an arrestable offense last time I checked
last story, remove gate, problem solved.... if the gate has a reason (like balls rolling on the street) create a 'trap' by having a small fence in front of the opening of the other fence so you need to zigzag through -not sure if there would be ADA issues though, but a lockable gate like in this story surely isn't a proper solution either
Last story: Idiot wasted time wearing skinny jeans, didn't call police when encountering a locked gate and let entitled aholes yell at him. What a macaroon.😡
Story 2: I used to teach 1st grade (bilingual Spanish) and a child fell off the monkey bars, seriously injuring her leg. The principal made her wait in the nurses's office all day, until her dad came to pick her up. He took her to the ER, where they found she had broken her leg. The cops were called and they grilled that poor dad about child abvse. I was so angry that the school hadn't done anything, and that they had made that poor girl wait in pain for hours. Her dad didn't speak good English and didn't understand what was happening. 😠
About 52 years ago when I was a sophomore in high school I badly broke my arm in Phys. Ed. class. The school called my parents and the Vice Principal personally took me to the local hospital ER. My folks still had to authorize treatment, but I was being taken cared of.
Story 1. Mam, you can control your child or you are not welcome in this store. Story 2. Never talk to strangers in the park. Never talk to police, they are not your friends and no good for you ever comes from it. Lock your phone before the cops get to you and tell them that you do not consent to any searches or seizures of yourself or your property. Only state that this is my daughter then say you are exercising your right to remain silent and you demand a lawyer present before answering any questions.
Story 2: She was definitely fatherless as a child and doesn't comprehend fathers actually being in their kids lives (or probably believes in some sort of "All men are creeps" BS)
The wheelchair story also makes very much sense when you know how ridiculously difficult it is to get a wheelchair repaired, or to get a new one. We are talking months of fighting with insurance companies and tens of thousands of dollars, all with the hard rule that you cannot get a new one more than every five years, and you are not allowed to buy parts "privately", it must all go via a doctors office. In theory, this was to stop companies from overprizing, in practice, it has meant ten times more of a headache for those in need of a wheelchair.
Story 1: I have had this very thing happen to me in a wheelchair several times. I never whispered sweet evils into the child's ear, but I would wait until the kid was fully off the floor then "tip over" backwards. I could control it pretty well, so I knew nobody was getting hurt. The parents finding themselves suddenly in the position where their kid just knocked over someone in a wheelchair was usually humiliating enough to get them to do something, and the kid has learned climbing on wheelchairs is unstable, and they could get hurt when it falls over.
Story 1: He (and mom) would have gotten a loud warning about climbing on me and my chair so that the security cameras catch it... Then he would have a broken foot if he did not move.
Story 2 Too bad they can’t get that Karen’s name and file a complaint of some kind. She harassed them and caused emotional damage to a little girl who is now afraid of parks
A good friend of mine who is in his early 60s took his granddaughter to the park near her home while he was babysitting her and a Karen called the police on him, claiming he was a pedophile. Luckily the police weren't as stupid as the police in Story #2 and handled things without scaring the little girl.
Seeing as he is in a wheelchair, he didn't have much choice, did he? Have you ever known someone in a wheelchair or with a physical disability to keep a job? There's a reason for that. If you can even get one in the first place, which takes a miracle, they will bend over backwards to fire you. Karen would have gotten him fired and he knew it. There's also the issue that he literally couldn't move without seriously hurting the boy. He absolutely did the right thing by scaring the kid.
@foureyedelf6151 first off i am someone with a disability. I am not wheel chair bound but I do in a way somewhat understand that part. Why I said what I said was traumatizing the child. Yes there is a reason TO go a little harsh with handling the child. Which is what I have a problem with. Might cause the child to not want to go anywheres or have the mom go anywheres. Now this is going to be a test to see if you're still reading this. Did you know that the full name for the protagonist in One Piece is Monkey D Luffly? Now I am not defending Karen and her kid. I am just saying that i feel OP slightly went overboard with what they did.
@TheDarkLink7 I halfway agree with you. Because honestly I don't think the kid would have left op alone without some level of traumatizing as it's clear he was that kind of kid who never gets spanked or told no. That said he'll probably forget this encounter, while he would not forget as easily getting his hand or foot mangled in a wheelchair because he refused to get off. One way or another he will learn that it's not safe to use a stranger as playground equipment. And I don't really care about One Piece as I've never seen it. :)
@foureyedelf6151 okay and yeah most times people only read the first line and go full karen mode without reading the rest lol. So yeah I as well hope that the kid forest about op but remembers the lesson that people in wheelchairs aren't playground.
Story 2, unless there was reasonable articulated suspicion of the crime, the officers had no right to ID the father, wouldn't have know the rego and wouldn't have got the ticket. Any reasonable officer would've asked the daughter, or simply watched and investigated to see if anything was a miss. I'd be looking for a civil rights lawyer to sue to Police department for 4th amendment violations. That will more than cover your vehicle registration...
Story 1: OP handled the situation well. Medical devices aren't toys. A wheelchair is certainly not a jungle gym, especially not when it's *in use* by someone who needs it! That mother should have been arrested for ableism. Story 2: I hope those cops were fired, or at least disciplined. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Misogyny is a greater problem, but misandry is *glossed over* far too often! When it comes to being good parents, men are no less capable than women! Stories 3 and 4: Playgrounds are public places, people! You don't get to close them for your own private use.
last story, LOL "want me to call the police for threatening me" just NO, the proper answer is "talking to me is a good way to catch 3 to the chest, we understand each other?" and look dead in his eyes.
The Karens from the second story are exactly the type to accuse any random man of being a pervert, whilst turning a blind eye to their husband interfering with the grandkids.
Said this before on these posts. I grew up as.the light skinned daughter of an indigenous man. THREE times as a child nosy white women called police. To where Daddy kept my birth certificate in his wallet..this BS behavior discourages men from being parents. Screw 1980's Wendy's, Exxon and Radford VA.
Last story: They should call the city about it, too. They might have something to say about it. If not, call the mayors office. Your tax money should not be paying for someone's "private"park.
Story 2: there is a solution. You can sue the reporting person for defamation and slander, plus the mental anguish suffered by your daughter, and you can subpoena the police records to find her identity if she gave it to them. The expired tags, are unfortunately on you.
The second story, that family needs to sue Karen for defamation und mental und emotional trauma. The sad thing is that men can't win. If a father is killing himself to provide financially for his family\children, he's accused of being emotionally distant. If he's there for them emotionally they're accused of being financially irresponsible.
"Do not climb other people's wheelchairs" -- then what am I supposed to do Friday and Saturday nights? Oh, "climb other people's wheelchairs" isn't a euphemism? Never mind.
Last story: I'd have made a post on the social media sites for the area about how an entitled family at a nearby house are putting a padlock on the park gate to stop others from being able to use the park, and when confronted the family threatens to beat you up. I'd also include that the cops have already been called out to deal with this but nothing more than removing the lock was done. Then I'd ask if anyone knows if anything more can be done as my sister's kids are now scared of the park and the scary family that now has laid claim to the public park like the park is only for them to use. After that I'd recruit locals to check the park gate at regular times and to call the cops or whoever manages the park to come remove the lock. If anyone had a trail camera I'd get them to set it up to watch the gate to see who is locking it, this way the cops have proof of exactly who is doing this.
Story two; much can be said about that Karen, and she's very responsible for how the daughter reacted (partly, because if you as a parent handles it right, she will not have that fear) but Karen is NOT to blame for the cops citing your family for the expired tags; that's on YOU!
Last story: I'd do the same, but picking the lock. As for the entitled dad, he strikes me as the type who acts tough, but then as soon as police show up, he would be the first to yell that he is the victim.
Second story: Usually there's a grace period on renewing tags. Your ticket should have a court date. If you can get the time off to do so, then I'd go to the court date and challenge the ticket. Get the tags renewed in the mean time, as proof that you've resolved the issue will go a long way toward getting the fine dismissed. Usually that alone is enough. Also, If you have the means, get in touch with a lawyer because you might have grounds to sue "Karen" for the false report and harassment.
1: I've told my son to play gently with other kids. He's abnormally strong and has accidentally hurt other children when playing. He's older and much better about easing up... but I certainly wasn't calling the other kids animals or objects. Thats weird. Ironically though, THIS kid WAS acting like an animal. 🤷♀️
Story #2: Is this a thing now? Back in the day (my kids are adults now), my husband took our girls out sometimes, especially when I had to work on weekends. Add the fact that we are a mixed couple, so our kids are biracial, which I know can make certain folks question whether the dad is "really their father", which is frightening because this has happened to people. But, fortunately, this didn't happen to him and the girls, thank goodness, probably because we live in an area where cultures are mixed, many dads are involved in their kids activities, and communities were close, so people knew each other. I also knew a few dads who were the stay-at-home parent. I know those cops were doing their jobs, but they were definitely leaning aggressively against the dad, and ignoring cues from the daughter. I would probably make a complaint about the officers, and sue the accusing woman, but I would also be afraid of retaliation, because that does happen these days. So awful.
Story 1: OP did the best thing possible to end the situation without resorting to actual (real) bodily harm. Might have taught the brat a good lesson in the process too. Story 2: The moment Karen yelled 'that word' OP should have immediately called 911 to report it and to have a record of the incident logged. Then deal with police after. Just the utterance of that word can have extremely detrimental effects happen to Karen's victim...and not just from the police...but also in the entire neighborhood. As far as the police are concerned...they were entirely at fault for failing to have demonstrable probable cause to separate OP from his child. OP can file complaints for that.
As it looks like story 2 got the most attention, it did from me as well. I had a daughter (lost her when she was 15), but she always knew she was safe with me & I would protect her from anything. If anyone ever accused me of being a pedo because I love her, I would probably exact revenge somehow.
My wife was killed in a car accident, so I can tell you from personal experience that society seems completely blind to the fact that there are single fathers. Then again I have the proud memory of my two girls taking me out to breakfast for Father’s Day, only to hear one of the three Karens sitting behind my daughters raising a toast to “single moms who are doing double duty all on our own”. My oldest then raised her glass of orange juice and toasted me for “doing double duty without bragging about it or feeling sorry about having to do what a parent is supposed to do”. The three Karens were awfully quiet after that, and left fairly quickly.
OP, you have a fantastic older daughter.
I like her...
She's my kind of Sadistically Malicious...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
I am so sorry for your and their huge loss. What a wonderful father you are to your two blessings ❤.
I raise my beverage to your daughter for " the ability to silence multiple Karens with well played OJ"
Congrats for raising amazing young women!
I love this 😍
Your daughter is amazing
Story two: It should be a felony to falsely accuse someone of paedophilia.
It is - but you need to sue them, the police won't do anything
🤣🤣🤣 like they would ever punish a woman for making false accusations 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ready7307 that's the sad reality of getting justice, because justice isn't a given, it's a fight. You gotta fight for civil rights, you gotta fight to clear your name, right wrongs, snuff out lies, everyday. And it doesn't get any easier.
@@Josh_the_jester - Thing is you never clear your name because the internet never forgets.
I think it is.
Story 2: Oh no, a father actually being involved with their child's life. Horrors, the world is gonna end.
Gimme an Effing break.
That Karen earns her name. I feel so bad for them.
Karen's husband was probably never involved with her kids so she thinks that's normal.
Story 2: as a guy. I would be still going to the park. I would be an extra annoyance to the cops in calling them and saying "hello local police station. I am (first and last name). I am taking my daughter to the park today. I want you to make a note of this because the last time. Someone accused me of being a bad person."
Story 1 - I’ll admit that I thought that Karen’s kid was gonna steal OP’s chair and demand to be pushed in it or something, turning this into a ‘Let my baby play with it, you clearly don’t need it since you can obviously stand up. You’re just being lazy’ situation. But what OP did to that kid was just as good.
Story 2 - What an evil witch. Traumatizing an innocent child like that and causing trouble to OP’s family. They should filed a report on Karen for the false police report and harassment.
The dad should have sued Karen for defamation and emotional impact on his daughter.
Story 2: The dad should have called the cop on the Karen when he heard her said "Pedo"
He can do that too. But, if she told anyone he is a 'pedo', that is slander. She made a report, left her name. Find out from the police and SUE HER!
That karen thinks only womans go to the park
I’m honestly kinda shocked they did so much about someone reported as a “pedo”. It seems pedos barely get any time. I saw where California cops told the guys from one of those channels where they catfish chomos then call police, the officer told them on camera that they could arrest the guy but the da wouldn’t prosecute so there was no point. When they do get time it’s minor compared to other crimes. It’s crazy but that’s why I was surprised they went so far with the dad.
When my son was 6 I think we’d taken him to Dave & busters & we left & drove to the hotel we were going to stay at (my husband & I had just reconciled but hadn’t found an apartment yet) just before we turned into the hotel parking lot the blue lights went on. Several cop cars were there. They cuffed my husband & put him in their car & told us someone reported us for kidnapping, saying they heard the kid saying no I don’t want to go or i don’t want to go with you or something like that. Our son never said anything like that so 🤷🏻♀️.
I was flipping out trying to show them pictures, ss card, his bookbag w/ all his paperwork that I’d brought to show his dad cause he was about to start kindergarten. Our son was shaking & scared. Everything was cleared up but it was still traumatic for our son especially being so young. We just told our son that everything was ok, that we would want the police to do exactly what they did if someone really had kidnapped him. But it wasn’t something we planned to worry our son about so soon. About kidnapping & what that meant.
The only thing we can figure is that one of the Dave & buster employees called them. Earlier my son had won a lot of tickets but the machine didn’t spit them out so we tried to get the employee to help but he just ignored us. So we got a manager. Idk if the guy was reprimanded but that’s the only person we had any negative interaction with & our son never said “no I don’t want to go” or anything close to that. 🤷🏻♀️ It’s seems like a reach but there was just nothing else that happened that could’ve led to this. They told the police our truck mode, color, & tag & describes us. (We were one of the last groups there & left just before they closed) I hate that their daughter is scared now.
I would have filed a lawsuit for harrasment and libel/slander and the likes.
@@michaelcolfin8464 Anyone who claims such thing should get the full sentence themselves (as well be registered and put on permanent record) with no chance to lower the sentence.
I have a kind of opposite story about being a suspicious single man in a park. After separating from my first wife I rented a house near to a public park. I used to enjoy going there early in the morning before families arrived and it got crowded. It was the perfect place for me to sit under a tree and read a book or just meditated. Once the families started arriving in the mid morning I would usually leave because it was no longer comfortable for me. I could hear parents calling out to their children like, "Jason, come back here, don't go near that man!" As a single man in the park I had become a creature of suspicion and distrust.
One day while my 5yo daughter was with me I took her to the park. I sat under my usual tree where I could keep an eye on her playing. While I was sitting there a woman approached me with a young girl in tow, about the same age as my daughter. To my surprise she asked me to mind he daughter while she left the park to go to a shop. Even though she didn't know me the very fact I was with my daughter had miraculously transformed me from a dangerous beast into a reliable and responsible parent
Gotta love the double standards eh?
Story one: Over the top? yes, maybe a little. Funny AF? Also yes, I was laughing my ass off! Story two: Mild mannered or not, dad should have pressed defamation charges against that vile individual. The police also dropped the ball, they should have arrested her for filing a false police report.
Story 2 is yet another case of people always treating men as monsters and causing more harm because of it. The karen and the cops all handled that so horribly and OP and their family should probably sue. The kid is legitimately traumatized due to this whole thing which is so sad.
And sad thing is = Women can be it just as much as men. But it comes in the news much, much less.
Women can do it yes but it's largely men that do this kind of horror
@@miyouda9371 Correction: It's largely men you hear about doing this kind of horror
Single dads of daughters get a lot of flack. When I was living in military housing, our next door neighbor's flakey, cheating wife decided to abandon him and their two small daughters and also took a job on a cruise ship, so she was completely gone. He was constantly getting picked on by the daycare workers and preschool teachers. Once cps was called and he was required to take his daughter to the doctor to confirm that an obvious birth mark on her back was not a bruise. Another time they literally were questioning the children to ask if any of them had seen their father naked, and then reported him because his daughter had walked in on him in the bathroom as he was getting out of the shower, in a one bathroom townhouse. They told him he should have locked the bathroom door, even though he was the only adult in the house with a toddler and a preschooler. He was a good person and a good dad, and he politely suffered through all the harassment.
Sounds like prudish america.... Most kids in europe would say they have seen their parents naked and no one would bat an eye....
@@herbie1975 I agree that. 😅
@@herbie1975 In Europe, it's not uncommon to see your parent(s) naked in the bathroom, either take a bath together or when someone is on the toilet and they accidently come in. Or showering or places like designated areas for nudists, or when the parents are shaving themselves, etc........
@@herbie1975 Indeed it is. It's also not uncommon to kiss each others cheeck (wether they are a child or an adult, and you don't have to be family to do that, just good friends).
"the problem" I see with the US is, nudity equals sex. Nudity in europe is seen as, well, a naked person, no sexual context by just beeing naked.... In the US it is sexualized right away (so it feels).
And having seen your parents naked, has nothing sexual to it. But well, they have to live with their standarts....
The kid needed the lesson and clearly his mother wasn't going to give him one. WELL DONE, I used to work in a place filled with kids and had perfected the look that said; "YOU ARE DEAD. I'm just deciding on the method" Amazing how fast those kids could understand.
“The Look” !!!!!!
once a kid sees it, they instantly know what is going to happen next if they continue with their actions
But,that would be a lie, got me rolling 😂😂😂
@@JohnH20111 I never yell, so when i even slightly raise my voice in the classroom you can hear the meme playing = It was at this moment..... They knew, they f*cked up in Morgan Freeman's voice.
Story 2: They should file an official complaint against the police officers. Sure, they need to investigate if they get a report, but they don't need to _traumatize a little girl_ and harass an innocent father in the process. The way they conducted themselves in that situation should have been better. Also, in many places, if you get a fine for something like an expired registration that's only a week out of date, and you promptly fix the registration and then take in the ticket and proof that it's been fixed now, and explain the situation, as long as you don't have a history of abuses, etc, the police clerk will quite often be willing to just waive the ticket at that point and you won't be required to actually pay it. If nothing else, it can't hurt to ask...
They should also file a complained that a false police report was filed by the karen
Yeah, there was a time when I REALLY let my registration slide (I kept convincing myself it was too inconvenient), but I went to get that fixed right as soon as possible and decided to challenge the ticket in traffic court. Didn't even need to see the judge. I showed the paperwork at the desk and it was immediately dismissed.
@@knill1494They also need to find the woman and sue her for defamation and emotional destress.
Story 4: Imagine thinking you can just keep an entire public park all to yourself. Maybe get a private playground next time if you don't want people around your kids, and if that's not possible, well tough s**t
I found it funny that he acted like a caveman after OP called the police
I work as a volunteer teacher at preschool (mostly) and the amount of side eyes ive gotten from parents, especially if they hug me on their own and stuff is quite sad. If the same happened if i was a female, no one would have batted an eye to me or think twice. We men are tired of the double standards.
Wheelchair story: IMO, well done OP! Wheelchairs are not toys and even a basic manual model costs hundreds of dollars. Plus, letting a young child just "climb" all over another person who can't really do anything to stop it is just... horrendously disrespectful and gross! I'd have been tempted to call the police without consulting the manager. I'd also consider going above the managers head to get more cameras installed to eliminate the blind spots.
Unfortunately, for many the stereotype that only the mothers nurture children while fathers earn a living is still very prevalent. And that a man alone with a child is somehow "wrong". Add into that Karen's who simply thrive in creating chaos and it's suddenly a problem.
Locked playground story: I would have called the non-emergency line for the police or fire department to have the lock cut. Or the city parks department.
Story #2: The way you answer the child's question is to explain calmly, "A pedo is somebody who does very bad things to children, and Papa is absolutely not one. That lady in the park thought he was, but she was wrong."
Kids can get accurate answers without having to hear all the gruesome details.
No just say the lady that called him a pedo is the pedo.
@@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS doesn't answer the q tho
@ready7307 In response to a child who might followup with "doesn't answer the question, though".
"You're right honey, it doesn't answer the question. The exact definition of that is a grown-up topic that you don't need to know right now. All you need to know is that a pedo is someone who harms children in a really, really bad way. And your daddy is NOT one."
@heathmcconnell3901 It does answer the question, it just doesn't do so with a huge amount of detail. Most of the time, young children don't care about a huge amount of detail; they want enough that they can fit the word into their worldview, and what I suggested gives them that. But yes, if they do insist on continuing to press for further detail, your suggestion is a good next step. I would expect that to be more likely from slightly older children, who might well end up looking the word up on the internet if they don't get a satisfactory answer from their parents, but that's all right -- if they're old enough to find out on their own, they're probably old enough to absorb the answer without being traumatized.
@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS First of all, that's untrue. Lying to children is a terrible idea. Second of all, it won't satisfy the child's curiosity, so they'll keep asking... if they see that they can't get anything more out of you, they'll ask somebody else, but they'll ask. And if they ask someone else, you lose the ability to control the answer they're given.
After getting the tags renewed, take the ticket to the court house with your renewal. You will most likely be able to have the fine waived that way
The parents that locked the gate could be charged with false imprisonment which is defined as when someone is intentionally restricted from moving without legal authority or the person's permission.
Story #3: I'm just so happy that finally someone stood up to those Karen goons!! You should NEVER back down from some Karens and leave a public space just because of them. OP warning to call the cop was good and all, but he really should have called the, because the guy touched him.
I would have asked the cops if they got the name of that woman. Tell the cops they have a clear cut case of filing a false police report. I'd personally like to file a 10k lawsuit for her false accusations. She'll lose because she has zero proof.
Story 1 - Even if that Karen called the cops after finding out, they would have taken one look at the footage, read OP's report on the matter, then lectured the Karen on why she thought it would be good to allow her child to climb onto a disabled person.
Also to add, back when I worked in retail I had one Karen of a mother in the store letting her kid run around and pull things off shelves. The manager had told her to reign her kid in or leave, she was waiting for a few coffees. I'd been working in the coolroom where we also have the walkin freezer to bring things out to the customer freezer, which I was in the process of doing. So came out from the back only to see the kid trying to open the door to the freezer and having heard the manager telling the mother to deal with her kid came up beside him, of course kids being kids and curious they asked what I was doing, so I leant down and said quietly. "Making sure I have room in the freezer out back for children who dont stay by their parents like good little kids should." There was another customer nearby who heard and immediately tried not to laugh, but that kid was much like the terrified kid should be and immediately went back to stand by his mother, who at that point was carrying her coffees and they didnt leave their side at all. Manager asked me what I said to the kid and I told him as the other customer who heard came to the counter and the pair couldnt help but laugh.
Story 1: Holy Sh!t! That was amazing! Like something straight out of a horror movie. That kid probably would have grown up to be a karen or worse given the behavior of his mother but i think that one move might have set them straight for life XD
Story 3: something tells me the entitled dude knew he committed a crime by breaking that lock, and violated his rental agreement, or he, and/or his friends, had a warrant out for their arrest
story 2: I might not be a father, but... goddamn if I witnessed that, I'd be catching Karen's license plate and reporting her to the cops and probably get CPS involved. Cause if she can't tell the difference between a predator and a father, she probably should not be around kids whatsoever.
Story 2: If the guy was not the father or a close relative he and the girl would have been long gone before the police arrived. The police handled this very very very poorly
Along with the nosy entitled Ashlyn.
The duty AND responsibility of a good parent is to make his children likable so everyone around will enjoy their presence. There are A LOT of bad parents!
No, Karens, you're not allowed to ""lock"" a PUBLIC park paid for by the TAXPAYERS just so YOUR kids can play without you watching them.
Stop being lazy!
11:39 The minute that OP saw the old woman approach the cops, I'd bring my spouse with me to remind the cops that the old woman phones in a false police report during she's which she slandered and defamed me, and I want to press charges. If the cops say no, I'll thank them, get their n a names and badge numbers, then file a report with Internal Affairs (and the city District Attorney), that the cops are to be charged with being accomplices to the aforementioned crimes...
The cops have qualified immunity (which needs to end) in most US states, and even if the DA chooses to prosecute the old woman (who is completely in the wrong and deserves punishment) they'd need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew he wasn't taking pictures.
It's not illegal to report non-crimes to the police unless you objectively lie. "Creepy" doesn't count because it's just an opinion and the rest of what the cops reported her as saying was technically true.
My point isn't that she's innocent, only that the bar for false reporting is intentionally really high. Society doesn't benefit from having people fear to call police. It's sort of the same reason local cops are not supposed to be allowed to report people to immigration (which they do, and which is disgusting).
I could never of imagined allowing to even TOUCH someone’s wheelchair, let alone climb it! That was insane 🤬.
Story 3: Props to that ranger. He chose not to ruin a kid's party while still applying consequences for the entitled guy's actions.
A double-dip Girl Scout story. We had a 3 part event planned, one afternoon we went to an orchard and gleanned 6-8 bushels of apples, followed by warm cider, cinnamon fried cakes. On our meeting night we cut away the bad spots, baked pies and 30 gal. of apple sauce, which we took to a shelter. The night we went was so cold, there were penquins s-scratching to get in. One of the girls had a hat, scarf, mitten thing her grandma had made, and she was proud of it. She gave it to a girl in line who didn't have a coat. Someone some dropped the girl off, and her mother called madder than a boiled owl, "How could you let her do that, BLAH, BLAH. I was proud of her. I suggested she complain to the scout office, as I was about to switch from my Girl Scout vocabulary to my slightly more colorful Navy vocabulary. I don't believe it takes all kinds...
Story #2, I'm glad I don't know someone that heartless. A little girl running up to hug her loving dad is one of the most wholesome precious things one can ever witness, IMHO.
Hey, folks? Just a gentle PSA. Mobility devices -- crutches, canes, walkers, wheelchairs, and the like -- are not for playing with or climbing on. Think on how you'd feel if random people kept messing with your legs and making it difficult (if not impossible) for you to move, with the possibility of permanent damage. Yeah. Please keep your kids from playing with these things, it's not okay.
Story 2 - This reminds me of when my kids were young, and my wife took my youngest to the YMCA with her, where they had a child care center with a playground. A few minutes later my oldest changed her mind about wanting to stay home, so I agreed to drop her off. I escorted her into the child care center to check her in, only to see a care worker behind the counter holding my youngest, who immediately started bawling when she saw me standing there momentarily ignoring her. I asked my oldest to run over and comfort her, but instead she "helpfully" bolted out the door and into the playground. So there I was, trying to convince the care worker that she was holding my daughter and that I could end her tantrum in a few seconds if she would just let me hold her for a bit. Eventually she went to find my very annoyed wife, who confirmed that I was indeed the father of her children, and she finally handed my screaming kid over to me. It took about 5 seconds for her to calm down before she finally pushed off of me to indicate that she wanted to be set down. As soon as I put her down she toddled out the door to the playground, and all was well again.
I totally get where the care worker was coming from, since no self-respecting care worker would hand kids off to random people, but I wish she would have just asked for an ID or something. It would have saved everyone a lot of grief.
Your wife also indirectly confirmed you are allowed to see her child, an ID could prove you to be a relative but not if you have a restraining order etc or not.
Story 1: OP probably created a core memory for that kid. With any luck, he's prevented that kid from becoming a little monster.
Story 2: obviously she was never hugged by HER father because of how she is a worthless brat which she is still now and what she did made my blood boil I feel bad for the family
or maybe she was a victim as a child? you never know the backstory.
If the cops talked to the daughter while separated, they can, and should, be sued!
Actually that's common practice and it's very good for the child. If they're being intimidated it's harder to get them to tell the truth while close to the culprit.
@anondabomb it's an illegal common practice. Minors can't be questioned without the parents consent or presence as they don't have access to a lawyer. It's up to the parents to advocate for their children.
S1: That made me laugh out loud. Op did the right thing for the right reason.
The child’s mother is a piece of crap because she’s not raising her child to be respectful of people or property.
He’s going to be in and out of jail.
a guest of one of two Yards, the Prison Yard or the Grave Yard
a guest of one of two Yards, the Prison Yard or the Grave Yard
Story one you never TOUCH a person's wheelchair much less climb one it. As a retail person my bosses have made it clear that you never touch a person's chair.
If I'm about to roll backwards down the hill, please DO touch.
Story 4, final update, talk about an entitled coward. He tried to talk a big game only to run back into his house and flip op off when threatened with cops again. I can't understand people like him. Especially to dare try to stop other kids from playing in a public playground and with their kids because their THAT entitled and snobbish.
9:22 If Karens knew to mind their business, they wouldn't be Karens anymore.
they were never instructed on the Two Rules Of Business:
Rule #1 - Mind Your Own Goddamn Business
Rule #2 - Stay The Hell Out Of Mine
And we wouldn’t have anything worth laughing our butts off to ! 🤣😂🤣
It should be a felony to accuse someone of being a "pe*o" without proof, i.e. so in the 2nd story, after the cops came up and determined the truth, the Karen should be immediately arrested and charged an additional felony for each person she told. It's the type of accusation that destroys lives and too many people use it as a casual insult.
It's only a "civil" violation, not a felony, but the term is "defamation". The requirements to make a claim are:
-the statement has to be false (seems pretty obvious here).
-the statement has to reach a third party (as in, not the person being insulted, and not the person doing the insulting, in this case, even the daughter would count).
-the person at fault only needs to have been negligent in making the claim, you don't have to demonstrate any intent to cause harm.
-proof of damages - *UNLESS* the claim in question is a type of insult which meets the requirements for "defamation per se" - which is anything which can be understood to be automatically offensive and harmful without any need to prove specific damages - such as, for example, the exact insult used in this instance.
In this instance, if there was a recording, or any other meaningful physical evidence, or even just a couple of people who heard the accusation and were willing to confirm the truth about what they heard, OP would have a pretty much airtight defamation case under US law. The only ways out are to show you didn't do it (which, if there's evidence you did, is going to be a non-option), or to show that you were telling the truth (which, again, doesn't appear to be true).
Weirdly, I know more about the US laws for this than my own local laws about it, in spite of having had a near-miss on a court case relating to my local laws when I had someone spreading a false story claiming I had assaulted and robbed them. Good times.
@@a-blivvy-yus
Ummm...the commenter wrote "It should be a felony" with SHOULD BE as the qualifier.
@@gregorythomas333 yes, and they also explained some of their reasons *why* they were saying it should be a felony, and my explanation of the law which currently applies to the situation addresses those concerns, at least to a degree. So it was a relevant answer to their comment. By contrast, your reply added nothing of value to the conversation. Even if you had been right, your reply would only have served to further derail the conversation, and not been of any value to anything relevant to the discussion.
Story 3: If I were the ranger I would have fined the guy for illegally setting up the bounce houses too, but let it stay up only for the duration of the permit. And then scissors to the cords (both electrical and support) right at the end of the time period after exactly 1 warning to wrap it up. Whatever fine then they had to pay to the people who they hired the equipment from will be their responsibility.
Story 1: good play. You did what needed to be done
Regarding the locked gate story: "You can't do (squat) without the police."
Yeah, that's called living in civilization. You wanna live in a cave, go ahead, GTFO and leave the rest of us alone.
It amazes me, how many supposed adults want to live in a playground rules world. I guess that's why the Mad Max movies were so popular. Not because people were horrified, but because that's their ideal life.
That is rather ironically Mad Max of a view, people like it because it's good cinema and love seeing heroes rise.
21:40: There was something to be done. Call the cops. What these entitled parents did was create a public nuisance, which IS an arrestable offense last time I checked
Story 2: Sounds like the cops didn’t handle that the right way. That poor girl. And really they could have just given him a wanting about the tags.
You have the best takes on stories, Fluff.
last story, remove gate, problem solved.... if the gate has a reason (like balls rolling on the street) create a 'trap' by having a small fence in front of the opening of the other fence so you need to zigzag through -not sure if there would be ADA issues though, but a lockable gate like in this story surely isn't a proper solution either
In my hometown, parks have gates to be able to close them off, whether if they are being renovated or in case of storms
Last story: Idiot wasted time wearing skinny jeans, didn't call police when encountering a locked gate and let entitled aholes yell at him.
What a macaroon.😡
Skinny jeans, can't lift the kids... somehow, I doubt that's a him. And not everything needs police involved right away.
Story 2: I used to teach 1st grade (bilingual Spanish) and a child fell off the monkey bars, seriously injuring her leg. The principal made her wait in the nurses's office all day, until her dad came to pick her up. He took her to the ER, where they found she had broken her leg. The cops were called and they grilled that poor dad about child abvse. I was so angry that the school hadn't done anything, and that they had made that poor girl wait in pain for hours. Her dad didn't speak good English and didn't understand what was happening. 😠
About 52 years ago when I was a sophomore in high school I badly broke my arm in Phys. Ed. class. The school called my parents and the Vice Principal personally took me to the local hospital ER. My folks still had to authorize treatment, but I was being taken cared of.
You need to find the identity of the Karen at the park and sue for defamation.
Story 1. Mam, you can control your child or you are not welcome in this store.
Story 2. Never talk to strangers in the park. Never talk to police, they are not your friends and no good for you ever comes from it. Lock your phone before the cops get to you and tell them that you do not consent to any searches or seizures of yourself or your property. Only state that this is my daughter then say you are exercising your right to remain silent and you demand a lawyer present before answering any questions.
He would have been fired for saying that.
@@foureyedelf6151 Really? Fire the disabled guy for asking a woman to control her crotch goblin? Not going to happen.
Story 2: She was definitely fatherless as a child and doesn't comprehend fathers actually being in their kids lives (or probably believes in some sort of "All men are creeps" BS)
Worse. She had one of THOSE dad's who think childcare is babysitting and women's work is beneath them and only praise their daughter for being cute.
Sory 1 .... Wrong sbureddit... moves to "Traumatisethemback"Freaking AWESOME MOVE
So being a good dad makes you a pdf file...good to know
The wheelchair story also makes very much sense when you know how ridiculously difficult it is to get a wheelchair repaired, or to get a new one. We are talking months of fighting with insurance companies and tens of thousands of dollars, all with the hard rule that you cannot get a new one more than every five years, and you are not allowed to buy parts "privately", it must all go via a doctors office. In theory, this was to stop companies from overprizing, in practice, it has meant ten times more of a headache for those in need of a wheelchair.
Story 1: I have had this very thing happen to me in a wheelchair several times. I never whispered sweet evils into the child's ear, but I would wait until the kid was fully off the floor then "tip over" backwards. I could control it pretty well, so I knew nobody was getting hurt. The parents finding themselves suddenly in the position where their kid just knocked over someone in a wheelchair was usually humiliating enough to get them to do something, and the kid has learned climbing on wheelchairs is unstable, and they could get hurt when it falls over.
Story 3: If someone threatens you, that's assault. If they touch you, that's battery. Press charges!
EXACTLY!!!!!!
Saying that you’re going to harm someone is considered Assault
Physically harming someone is considered Battery
Story 1: He (and mom) would have gotten a loud warning about climbing on me and my chair so that the security cameras catch it... Then he would have a broken foot if he did not move.
Story 2 Too bad they can’t get that Karen’s name and file a complaint of some kind. She harassed them and caused emotional damage to a little girl who is now afraid of parks
A good friend of mine who is in his early 60s took his granddaughter to the park near her home while he was babysitting her and a Karen called the police on him, claiming he was a pedophile. Luckily the police weren't as stupid as the police in Story #2 and handled things without scaring the little girl.
2nd story, OP, go down to the police station and file a complaint against the cops and that Karen of a lady.
I think story #1 is hilarious we all know the Karen would be horrible to Op so good on Op
Thank you! Entitled people are so baffling. How do they begin life being so awful 😂
They don't start that way, it's something learned and never corrected
Story 3 - OP definitely wasn’t the first and I have a feeling that he wont be the last either.
Story 4. OP should’ve recorded that threat and played it for police.
Story 1: i dont entirely approve what OP did but then again i do like how OP handled the child.
Seeing as he is in a wheelchair, he didn't have much choice, did he? Have you ever known someone in a wheelchair or with a physical disability to keep a job? There's a reason for that. If you can even get one in the first place, which takes a miracle, they will bend over backwards to fire you. Karen would have gotten him fired and he knew it. There's also the issue that he literally couldn't move without seriously hurting the boy. He absolutely did the right thing by scaring the kid.
@foureyedelf6151 first off i am someone with a disability. I am not wheel chair bound but I do in a way somewhat understand that part. Why I said what I said was traumatizing the child. Yes there is a reason TO go a little harsh with handling the child. Which is what I have a problem with. Might cause the child to not want to go anywheres or have the mom go anywheres. Now this is going to be a test to see if you're still reading this. Did you know that the full name for the protagonist in One Piece is Monkey D Luffly? Now I am not defending Karen and her kid. I am just saying that i feel OP slightly went overboard with what they did.
@TheDarkLink7 I halfway agree with you. Because honestly I don't think the kid would have left op alone without some level of traumatizing as it's clear he was that kind of kid who never gets spanked or told no. That said he'll probably forget this encounter, while he would not forget as easily getting his hand or foot mangled in a wheelchair because he refused to get off. One way or another he will learn that it's not safe to use a stranger as playground equipment. And I don't really care about One Piece as I've never seen it. :)
@@foureyedelf6151 Just FYI, the OP is female not male, since the mom said "Play with her gently, Joseph, don't hurt her."
@foureyedelf6151 okay and yeah most times people only read the first line and go full karen mode without reading the rest lol. So yeah I as well hope that the kid forest about op but remembers the lesson that people in wheelchairs aren't playground.
Story 2, unless there was reasonable articulated suspicion of the crime, the officers had no right to ID the father, wouldn't have know the rego and wouldn't have got the ticket. Any reasonable officer would've asked the daughter, or simply watched and investigated to see if anything was a miss. I'd be looking for a civil rights lawyer to sue to Police department for 4th amendment violations. That will more than cover your vehicle registration...
Wheelchair guy really went "tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt" on that kid.
Last story: I would have called the cops on the guy at then end of the story anyway. Just to keep an ongoing record of complaints!
Story 1: OP handled the situation well. Medical devices aren't toys. A wheelchair is certainly not a jungle gym, especially not when it's *in use* by someone who needs it! That mother should have been arrested for ableism.
Story 2: I hope those cops were fired, or at least disciplined. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Misogyny is a greater problem, but misandry is *glossed over* far too often! When it comes to being good parents, men are no less capable than women!
Stories 3 and 4: Playgrounds are public places, people! You don't get to close them for your own private use.
last story, LOL "want me to call the police for threatening me" just NO, the proper answer is "talking to me is a good way to catch 3 to the chest, we understand each other?" and look dead in his eyes.
Then he could call the police on YOU, coach your words and make it seem like it's entirely reactionary in a way that's reciprocal.
@@anondabomb LOL its cute when little snowflakes like you think that would work.
The Karens from the second story are exactly the type to accuse any random man of being a pervert, whilst turning a blind eye to their husband interfering with the grandkids.
Why do people think that a father watching their kids automatically think that they're pedophiles for simply being a good father?
Story 2 - Females -mothers, grandmothers, aunties can be Pedo’s too, so maybe OP should call the cops on Karen for the same thing ?
Story 1: good you did Karen's job and taught that kid some manners, op was an upstanding citizen, no wrong doing
Said this before on these posts. I grew up as.the light skinned daughter of an indigenous man. THREE times as a child nosy white women called police. To where Daddy kept my birth certificate in his wallet..this BS behavior discourages men from being parents. Screw 1980's Wendy's, Exxon and Radford VA.
Those accusations of paedophilia have gotten way out of hand.
Last story: They should call the city about it, too. They might have something to say about it. If not, call the mayors office. Your tax money should not be paying for someone's "private"park.
Story 2: welcome to being a present father with a daughter.
Story 2: there is a solution. You can sue the reporting person for defamation and slander, plus the mental anguish suffered by your daughter, and you can subpoena the police records to find her identity if she gave it to them. The expired tags, are unfortunately on you.
Read out a story involving a wheelchair, then say "What a ride!'
Intentional or not, that was hilarious.
WRT the Karen Calls the Cops on the Dad story, getting revenge on people who prove them wrong is standard Karen behavior.
I’m so proud of the chick in the wheelchair!
The second story, that family needs to sue Karen for defamation und mental und emotional trauma.
The sad thing is that men can't win. If a father is killing himself to provide financially for his family\children, he's accused of being emotionally distant. If he's there for them emotionally they're accused of being financially irresponsible.
"Do not climb other people's wheelchairs" -- then what am I supposed to do Friday and Saturday nights?
Oh, "climb other people's wheelchairs" isn't a euphemism? Never mind.
Last story: I'd have made a post on the social media sites for the area about how an entitled family at a nearby house are putting a padlock on the park gate to stop others from being able to use the park, and when confronted the family threatens to beat you up. I'd also include that the cops have already been called out to deal with this but nothing more than removing the lock was done. Then I'd ask if anyone knows if anything more can be done as my sister's kids are now scared of the park and the scary family that now has laid claim to the public park like the park is only for them to use.
After that I'd recruit locals to check the park gate at regular times and to call the cops or whoever manages the park to come remove the lock. If anyone had a trail camera I'd get them to set it up to watch the gate to see who is locking it, this way the cops have proof of exactly who is doing this.
Story two; much can be said about that Karen, and she's very responsible for how the daughter reacted (partly, because if you as a parent handles it right, she will not have that fear) but Karen is NOT to blame for the cops citing your family for the expired tags; that's on YOU!
Story 1, I've done that. My son was so embarrassed.
Last story: I'd do the same, but picking the lock. As for the entitled dad, he strikes me as the type who acts tough, but then as soon as police show up, he would be the first to yell that he is the victim.
General society should remove the “daddy’s babysitting the kids” phrase. NO, daddy is NOT babysitting, he’s parenting his children.
Second story: Usually there's a grace period on renewing tags. Your ticket should have a court date. If you can get the time off to do so, then I'd go to the court date and challenge the ticket. Get the tags renewed in the mean time, as proof that you've resolved the issue will go a long way toward getting the fine dismissed. Usually that alone is enough.
Also, If you have the means, get in touch with a lawyer because you might have grounds to sue "Karen" for the false report and harassment.
Last story, I would respond simply. "The dead do not have the ability to affect the world, attacking me will make you join them."
Story 1
I love her 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1: I've told my son to play gently with other kids. He's abnormally strong and has accidentally hurt other children when playing.
He's older and much better about easing up... but I certainly wasn't calling the other kids animals or objects. Thats weird.
Ironically though, THIS kid WAS acting like an animal. 🤷♀️
Story #2: Is this a thing now? Back in the day (my kids are adults now), my husband took our girls out sometimes, especially when I had to work on weekends. Add the fact that we are a mixed couple, so our kids are biracial, which I know can make certain folks question whether the dad is "really their father", which is frightening because this has happened to people. But, fortunately, this didn't happen to him and the girls, thank goodness, probably because we live in an area where cultures are mixed, many dads are involved in their kids activities, and communities were close, so people knew each other. I also knew a few dads who were the stay-at-home parent. I know those cops were doing their jobs, but they were definitely leaning aggressively against the dad, and ignoring cues from the daughter. I would probably make a complaint about the officers, and sue the accusing woman, but I would also be afraid of retaliation, because that does happen these days. So awful.
Story 1: OP did the best thing possible to end the situation without resorting to actual (real) bodily harm. Might have taught the brat a good lesson in the process too.
Story 2: The moment Karen yelled 'that word' OP should have immediately called 911 to report it and to have a record of the incident logged. Then deal with police after.
Just the utterance of that word can have extremely detrimental effects happen to Karen's victim...and not just from the police...but also in the entire neighborhood.
As far as the police are concerned...they were entirely at fault for failing to have demonstrable probable cause to separate OP from his child. OP can file complaints for that.
As it looks like story 2 got the most attention, it did from me as well. I had a daughter (lost her when she was 15), but she always knew she was safe with me & I would protect her from anything. If anyone ever accused me of being a pedo because I love her, I would probably exact revenge somehow.