That was fascinating to watch. Jabali always seems to over power Ringo but he’s a bit older and Ringo always comes back to play. Iriki was watching them play. She saw him over powering Ringo. I think Jabali was just startled by her playing and maybe discipline him a bit. I love how DJ intervenes. That was cool how Tajari caught Jabali on the hill. I love watching them.
He definitely wanted to get away. First it seemed like play, then it became more intense. Her behavior was kinda creepy. But it all stems from the complicated relationship between the sisters.
@@Eleven11313 I think you got a point there. She pulled J off of Ringo and then started getting rough with him. She even paused and looked around for a second as if to check to see if anybody was watching. And if it had been all play then Ringo wouldn't have jumped up on his mom's back - either to get away from her over reaction or to try to stop her from hurting Jabali.
@@Eleven11313 No way, Jabali was fine and it was nothing but play. You can look at how they are now and see this was typical Jabali crying like a baby to mommy.
I agree it looked like Iriki was playing with Jabali, and he was laughing. I think Tayari got jealous of them playing together and chased her away to get Jabali's attention back to her
I agree but I’m seeing a very tense baby protection in the mommy here. Maybe she heard a scream we didn’t that meant he was hurt. She is aggressively holding him down as he’s fighting to get away. His screams would have warned mommie to help him, which she did. But are these babies brothers because the other baby stayed with Iriki . We as humans don’t know play and control. They do. These babies are very vocal for mommie to help them.
Hi to everyone! I’m new to watching this group, I’ve grown to love Shabani’s family and Momotaro’s family. One thing I do like to share with each group I join is we need to remember this video is just a snippet out of their day and their life. So we don’t really know the whole story, just what we see on a 15 minute video. Glad to be here and I hope we can have respectful views. 💜🦋☮️
I went back to watch this 3 times before commenting, and I do watch other videos of gorilla families also. These boys are rough and tumble, and it always looks worse than it is. You can tell because they go right back to doing it all over again. Iriki sitting so near to them, joined in the fun and was playing with her nephew as gorilla's do. Tay came storming over, always thinking the worst of her sister, and let her have it. I believe that this was innocent play between a loving Aunt and her nephew that she adores.
The videographer said Jabali started yelling. That’s a clear sign to mom that something isn’t right. These sisters were very interesting to watch for sure. Iriki would play with Jabali but when Tayari started looting Ringo that all stopped. The sisters used to wrestle a lot before Ringo could wrestle with Jabali. It seemed like Iriki really enjoyed it. They don’t do that anymore. It would be nice if they did.😊
A veces, Tayari también agarra a Ringo contra su voluntad y tiene que ir Iriki a defenderlo. Me parece que hay algún problema entre las dos hembras y que usan a los bebes para atacar a la otra. Iriki, por su parte, desde que nació Ringo siempre trató de alejar a Jabali, siempre tuve la impresión que no le gusta nada Jabali. No sé adonde tienen el instinto maternal estas dos hembras, creo que es más fuerte su instinto de hembra que de madre..
Tayari has always bullied her sister while Iriki has always been the passive more caring one. So there has to be a valid reason for Iriki's more agressive reaction. Maybe she saw Jabili bite Ringo too many times in the past and again that day so finally decided to remind him how much it hurts! Tayari looks the other way knowing Jabali (older and bigger) will always get the better of his younger brother...
@@bettycarter1244 I agree with Jabali not getting the proper discipline from his mom... She's will not be getting "Mom of the Year Award" but she knows her duty...
@@kimhaveman3628 So true and they are also babies. Baby Gorillas learn through playing. Play teaches them how to control and learn how hard to play bite, grab and interact with each other and younger siblings without hurting each other. Especially learning about "Tickling Bites" that babies need to learn to be more gentle and actually tickle instead of hurting their sibling. They are born so much stronger then we are and they are fine! Just two baby Gorilla brothers bonding and learning through play. Sad how many use something innocent to bash even the babies and act glad when one is hurt by another. REALLY? WTF? Sad! Empathy, compassion and sympathy right out the door when some people get joy from seeing any innocent soul hurt. Come on! UGH!
To the people who think Jabali is rough with Ringo...Watch other troops and see how babies play then you will know that it is perfectly normal. It's not your fault you felt that way, you knew no better, now you do, so you should feel better too. So nextime you see an inaccurate comment you can inform others what is correct info . That is how people learn, also from documentaries, books and observing other troops.✌️
Nina, in my experience with these commenters they don’t care if you point out that a lot of Tayari and Jabali’s behavior/antics are normal gorilla behavior. You’ll be accused of being “condescending” and “preaching”. They watch these videos and think Tayari is the just the most abusive gorilla mother. Those same commenters are now projecting their dislike of Tayari onto her baby Jabali, which is so sad to me. I think the hardest thing for humans to do when watching these videos is to stop humanizing these primates and holding them to our human standards.
@@misskay_25 Thanks ladies, at least majority rules here, there are more rational people like us than those negative, innacurarate trolls. Like I have stated before ..."Happy People Don't Hate" and The Content Don't Critize ". I had to laugh at the condescending and preaching part because I have been called that too...lol🤣😁
Nina West, I agree with you! I watch gorilla videos everyday, and the way Ringo and Jabali play is very normal. I also do not think Iriki was hurting Jabali. Just playing. Tayari was just being a protector.
I've not seen Tayari try to hurt Ringo, but Iriki will sometimes hurt Jabali. Like the bite in this video. It's not auntie's job to punish (bite) her nephew at his age rn.
Iriki was there watching the two little ones playing for a while then trying to separate them when the boys were tangled up,then started to play with little J and grabbing him into her arms, of course the aggressive mum Tayari hated it especially she is aware that she is the one left out of the family, she just hates to see her sister has great time with her son’s company. If Iriki was hurting little J, D’jeeco was nearby next to them would know and stop that,obviously Tayari’s violent aggressive behaviour doesn’t fit in this small family with calming soft characters,it’s wrong to put Tayari here she is not happy and her misbehaviour has badly effected other gorillas especially the little ones
I know I'm late to the party, but I agree with other comments here..Jabali has his mother's personality. Busy, mischievous and just BAD! 🤣 And of course the little bad kids always cry when someone gets the better of them and they can't do what they want. But what fascinates me the most is that DJ ALWAYS knows Tayari is in the wrong and he scolds her. He comforts Iriki and then stares Tayari down as if to say, "Alright now. You need to chill out. I'm not gonna tell you anymore today". 🤣🤣 He's so patient with the wives spats and the active kids. Such a sweet husband and Daddy.
Tayari can only react on what she sees and hears. She heard her son screaming and saw his aunt on top of him and biting him, so she charged in to save her baby. It's how any decent mother would react. Right or wrong most any parent would rescue their child first and listen reasons later.
I agree with you. I have never seen Tayari bite Ringo. If someone has seen this then they need to link the video(s) so that all of us can see it with our own eyes. I honestly wish all of the videographers of these zoos and primate parks would show all the facets of gorillas’ personalities/behaviors as they do with Taipei Zoo. These commenters compare this troop to other gorilla troops at other zoos’ videos they watch, but what they aren’t factoring in is that some of the videographers edit their videos to only show viewers the good and not all facets of gorillas.
Jabali you little rough neck! I think Iriki is the only one to put fear in Jabali. I think she bites him just hard enough to let him know. And he does not like it one bit! He rolls up like a little pill bug!
TAYARI é bem doida mesmo...Todas a vezes que pega RINGO e o arrasta e faz o que bem quer com ele, tudo bem. Mas quando IRIKI brinca com JABALI, TAYARI a ataca com agressividade.😡
Tayari is just a grumpy unsettled aggressive mum, doesn’t want to see others playing and get along well, she knows her own son little J is friendly and close to Iriki, sometimes even trying to stop her snapping Ringo from Iriki,little J is smart but sometimes get confused by his mum’s behaviour,the Zoo should pay more attention to her and offering her some kind of treatments and improve her disciplinary issues
In slow motion: looked like Iriki did bite Jabali on his back-how hard, I don‘t know-and, though we can‘t hear anything, he looked to be screaming, but Tay didn‘t show up right away. Iriki continued giving Jabali a workover, hard to tell if it included another bite. He was definitely wanting mommy at that point. I imagine Iriki gets tired of his pesky tornado behavior. I would. Even DJ does at times. And I often think Jabali could use a little disciplining. When Tay finally arrived she was hell bent, mouth open, and probably making some noise. Iriki jumped straight up in the air. In the tussle, it appeared that Tay caught Iriki with an uppercut to the chest or jaw that sent her over the cliff. DJ seemed totally confused! He stared and stared at Iriki, his mild submissive mate, like What the heck was that? He took neither to task, just stood around dumbfounded, debating. The part that actually tugged at my heart was at 4:11 when Jabali flew off the cliff and Tay caught him in her arms. (I‘m usually no fan of Tay, often wishing Iriki would just stand up and deck her.)
I’m telling you that little kid is a bat! He can fly! I don’t like to see either kid in distress but I wish Iriki would do this when Tay takes Ringo. “Hey! Drop that kid!”
Tayari actually took care of Jabali very much, usually she let Jabali play freely, when Jabali shouted, Tayari immediately rushed to his side and chased away Iriki. Tayari often seems rude to take Ringo away, but her behavior to Ringo is the same as Jabali, so I guess Tayari sees that as a way of training. And Iriki's behavior towards Jabali will never be used to treat Ringo. In contrast, Tayari is actually not as bad as everyone thinks.
@@gorilla.djeeco.family there's usually something left out when people say 'not that bad' and it appears that Ringo's behavior towards his 'auntie' leaves one to think differently. I saw one day when he appeared unafraid to go near her or pass by her (after D'jeeco had had enough and put a couple holes in her). Otherwise Ringo is creeping around looking around corners for her. And as soon as he spots her, he beats a path to his mother. Its mist unfortunate that the whole compound is Jabali's playground while Ringo's is limited to a 5 or 10 foot radius around his mother.
I have not seen a mother gorilla be so brutal to another gorilla's baby but I guess it competition. I'm glad DJ knew who was naughty and stood by Iriki to let her know he wasn't happy with her.
it's so funny seeing grown human folks on this post talking about baby j a animal deserve to be bitten because he played too raw. These are damn animals all the gorilla videos I watched with baby gorillas this is how they play. stop acting like these animals or human.
I guess I saw that interaction differently. It looked to me like see was playing with him since he was getting a little rough with ringo. Tayari has been in a mood for several days now and I think was looking for an excuse. Tkh
If youve seen older videos you would see different. Iriki has taken Jabali and slammed him on his head multiple times. Its hard to tell here but I see towards end of playing that Iriki is biting a bit too hard and you can see Jabali is in pain and wants out by they way hes grabbing and pulling her hair to let her know it hurts.
Just looked at the video again and I don't see a lot of comfort from tayari to jabali. In fact the next time I see him he is coming of the cave with iriki. Now he wants to please his mom and is not playing.tkh
It was simple play and Jabali overreacted screaming to mom. It's funny now because I can see this trait in Jabali, he's a bit of a crybaby and Ringo seems more assertive. I wont be the least bit surprised if Ringo is the Alpha over Jabali. He's already giving Jabali all he can handle when they are playing. At the current rate Ringo will be kicking Jabali's azz in a few years.
Tayari is nasty, she’s done some biting on Ringo an when fights start she’s usually the one to start them. She’s possessive of DJeeco. Iriki minds her business an is always off on her own
For whatever reasons, Tayari is not the best of mom gorillas. I see a little more of acceptance of Jabali as time goes on but she still rations his milk time. Little Jabali as adorable as he is has naturally picked up some bad charateristisc from Tayari. Most of the affection that Jabali gets is from Iriki and D'jeeco. Hence his independent behaviour. Eg foraging for himself. To me Jabali is always hungry. Tayari treats Ringo worse when she kidnaps him. So she just seemed to have got back some of her own medicine. If she spent more time with Jabali, he would not have so much time on his hands even though I love the interaction between Jabali and Ringo. And yes, I am aware that they are not humans but they are very social just as humans are. And who is to know what goes on in their heads.
@@JMO7777 This is one of the happiest troops I have seen of the zoo one's. I have only started watching them and it saddens me to see so many hating on a young baby gorilla. Jabali seems to have incurred the hate of alot of people. Perhaps they need to broaden their watching as much older siblings than him literally drag their younger siblings around . At least until Daddy steps in lol
@@v.n.c8841 the definition of bias is prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person or group compared with another usually in way to be considered unfair. From day 1 you have been posting nothing but negative comments about one member of this troop relentlessly and that’s Tayari. That’s text book “called being bias” and that’s something I personally am not capable of.
Great Job Iriki! Yes Indeed! Protect your baby..let J see how it feel..he bits and mauls baby J on a daily! T walks leaves her baby for Iriki to watch..just checks on him periodically..randomly. That is how Baby Ringo feels..when J is biting his feet and hands ..I did not see any outcrys..when J bite baby Ringo on his back and he screamed in pain?? T needs to watch her baby. She sits watching as he plays roughly with baby Ringo..Iriki sick of watching J. While T off wondering around doing her. T is suppose to protect her baby! Keep him with you. Even DJ is biting J harder. This needed to happen. Take your baby and move around!
That was fascinating to watch. Jabali always seems to over power Ringo but he’s a bit older and Ringo always comes back to play. Iriki was watching them play. She saw him over powering Ringo. I think Jabali was just startled by her playing and maybe discipline him a bit. I love how DJ intervenes. That was cool how Tajari caught Jabali on the hill. I love watching them.
I love the way the little ones walk or jog all around. Wonderful footage! Thank you for sharing ❤
He definitely wanted to get away. First it seemed like play, then it became more intense. Her behavior was kinda creepy. But it all stems from the complicated relationship between the sisters.
D'Jeeco keeps everyone in order🦍💪🏽 nobody goes against the SilverBack!
D'Jecco is a great silverback keeping the peace within his troop
It looked to me that Iriki was just playing with Jabali. They play by nibbling on each other sometimes. It looks to me like Jabali was laughing.
Nah the baby was screaming trying to get away she was hitting him to hard
She did exactly what she shld have she was hitting that baby to hard and he was screaming to get away.
@@Eleven11313 I think you got a point there. She pulled J off of Ringo and then started getting rough with him. She even paused and looked around for a second as if to check to see if anybody was watching. And if it had been all play then Ringo wouldn't have jumped up on his mom's back - either to get away from her over reaction or to try to stop her from hurting Jabali.
@@Eleven11313 No way, Jabali was fine and it was nothing but play. You can look at how they are now and see this was typical Jabali crying like a baby to mommy.
I agree it looked like Iriki was playing with Jabali, and he was laughing. I think Tayari got jealous of them playing together and chased her away to get Jabali's attention back to her
I love these babies and the whole family. I watch them everyday.
I really like this whole shire type setting going on. If only Momotaro and Shabani had the same..
I love how after the incident it looked like Iriki was explaining herself to DJ.
Tayari很愛Jabali，對lriki的反應是出自於母親的本能，因聽到Jabali的尖叫聲。Jabali還直接飛撲媽媽的懷裡，母子情深
I think Iriki was just playing with her nephew. She hasn’t played with him that much since Ringo was born. She didn’t mean any harm at all.
I agree but I’m seeing a very tense baby protection in the mommy here. Maybe she heard a scream we didn’t that meant he was hurt. She is aggressively holding him down as he’s fighting to get away. His screams would have warned mommie to help him, which she did. But are these babies brothers because the other baby stayed with Iriki . We as humans don’t know play and control. They do. These babies are very vocal for mommie to help them.
I love the way papa comes in to keep order.
It’s so amazing . Like he orders Iriki to go to her cave. She goes. All is better. He’s the Man. Lol
Papa looks like he has ring worm. Patches of fur gone
Daddy invites both in a sitting with him. All is ok
不確定Iriki是在跟小J玩還是在訓誡他，總之小J就是不舒服才會叫吧！🤔然後Tayari衝出來處理，難得看她對Iriki暴怒欸！兩個媽媽育兒方式不同，護子心切卻是一樣的🙂
Well protecting a 1 year old is a bit more involved than a 2 year old, and on top of it she was very gentle.
Did you say that it is rare to see tyari furious with iriki. Lol. Seems like she is always looking for a reason to attack her.
1:20 1:20
😢😢😢😢😢 3:25 😮 3:28
After watching hours of ape footage and reading hundreds of human comments, I think it's safe to say, humans may not be the superior ones. ☮
I think you are spot on.😆
Agree
Yes, but both species have lots of drama! 🤣
Hi to everyone!
I’m new to watching this group, I’ve grown to love Shabani’s family and Momotaro’s family. One thing I do like to share with each group I join is we need to remember this video is just a snippet out of their day and their life. So we don’t really know the whole story, just what we see on a 15 minute video. Glad to be here and I hope we can have respectful views. 💜🦋☮️
DJ es un lider muy sabio.
4:04 She was being rough with that baby. You can hear the baby scream.
Good mama for coming so quick. Daddy kept the peace.
Bummer, tiffs happen😢
嘩第一次見到Tayari 這麼勇猛衝向姐姐😯, 其實Iriki只是比較肉緊地與J寶在玩耍。迪亞哥今次出手快狠準馬上分開兩位太太們👍🏻
That's the trouble with two wives - always having to intervene !
I went back to watch this 3 times before commenting, and I do watch other videos of gorilla families also. These boys are rough and tumble, and it always looks worse than it is. You can tell because they go right back to doing it all over again. Iriki sitting so near to them, joined in the fun and was playing with her nephew as gorilla's do. Tay came storming over, always thinking the worst of her sister, and let her have it. I believe that this was innocent play between a loving Aunt and her nephew that she adores.
The videographer said Jabali started yelling. That’s a clear sign to mom that something isn’t right. These sisters were very interesting to watch for sure. Iriki would play with Jabali but when Tayari started looting Ringo that all stopped. The sisters used to wrestle a lot before Ringo could wrestle with Jabali. It seemed like Iriki really enjoyed it. They don’t do that anymore. It would be nice if they did.😊
@@MySkinnydip new mom stress I think.
A veces, Tayari también agarra a Ringo contra su voluntad y tiene que ir Iriki a defenderlo. Me parece que hay algún problema entre las dos hembras y que usan a los bebes para atacar a la otra. Iriki, por su parte, desde que nació Ringo siempre trató de alejar a Jabali, siempre tuve la impresión que no le gusta nada Jabali. No sé adonde tienen el instinto maternal estas dos hembras, creo que es más fuerte su instinto de hembra que de madre..
Iriki es una asolapada jajaja
I seen Iriki biting poor baby J hard so Tayari said enough baby J was screaming 😱 and Tayari was like not anymore sister!!
never seen this😮
Iriki was playing with him and he didn't like being held down. Since he's such a busy- body.
Some people see only what they want to see.
Jabali is a cry baby and screams so that Tayari comes to help him, but Ringo takes his abuse like a strong silverback to be.
@Jaxi A I never said she didn't bite him.🤔
No worries,,everything is okay,,what a lovely family,,GBU all
Tayari has always bullied her sister while Iriki has always been the passive more caring one. So there has to be a valid reason for Iriki's more agressive reaction. Maybe she saw Jabili bite Ringo too many times in the past and again that day so finally decided to remind him how much it hurts! Tayari looks the other way knowing Jabali (older and bigger) will always get the better of his younger brother...
Big guy was saying” you deserved that. I’m very disappointed. Don’t do it again.” She knew.
Much ado about nothing mutters D'jeeco.
That's right! Tayari is a good mother... I don't care what anybody says... And I like how Iriki sat by Jabali almost apologizing... lol
Good that Jabali got a tastes of what de does to Ringo. Tayari is not a good mom she taught him all the bad habits.
@@bettycarter1244 I agree with Jabali not getting the proper discipline from his mom... She's will not be getting "Mom of the Year Award" but she knows her duty...
Again- Jabali is a BABY people! He is just playing… Go look at Kintaro playing with much older big brother Gentaro. This is gorilla play… Play!
@@kimhaveman3628 So true and they are also babies. Baby Gorillas learn through playing. Play teaches them how to control and learn how hard to play bite, grab and interact with each other and younger siblings without hurting each other. Especially learning about "Tickling Bites" that babies need to learn to be more gentle and actually tickle instead of hurting their sibling. They are born so much stronger then we are and they are fine! Just two baby Gorilla brothers bonding and learning through play. Sad how many use something innocent to bash even the babies and act glad when one is hurt by another. REALLY? WTF? Sad! Empathy, compassion and sympathy right out the door when some people get joy from seeing any innocent soul hurt. Come on! UGH!
Just watching,,everything is okay,😃😃
To the people who think Jabali is rough with Ringo...Watch other troops and see how babies play then you will know that it is perfectly normal. It's not your fault you felt that way, you knew no better, now you do, so you should feel better too. So nextime you see an inaccurate comment you can inform others what is correct info . That is how people learn, also from documentaries, books and observing other troops.✌️
Nina, in my experience with these commenters they don’t care if you point out that a lot of Tayari and Jabali’s behavior/antics are normal gorilla behavior. You’ll be accused of being “condescending” and “preaching”. They watch these videos and think Tayari is the just the most abusive gorilla mother. Those same commenters are now projecting their dislike of Tayari onto her baby Jabali, which is so sad to me. I think the hardest thing for humans to do when watching these videos is to stop humanizing these primates and holding them to our human standards.
@@MegUSN52 I agree, they are not humans so we should not judge them by our standards
@@MegUSN52 exactly 👍
@@misskay_25 Thanks ladies, at least majority rules here, there are more rational people like us than those negative, innacurarate trolls. Like I have stated before ..."Happy People Don't Hate" and The Content Don't Critize ". I had to laugh at the condescending and preaching part because I have been called that too...lol🤣😁
Nina West, I agree with you! I watch gorilla videos everyday, and the way Ringo and Jabali play is very normal. I also do not think Iriki was hurting Jabali. Just playing. Tayari was just being a protector.
She was not bullying Jubali she was playing with him you can see he is smiling I never seen her do anything to him
Looks like Tayari was looking to settle an old score. Why is it 'hugging' when Tayari refuses to let Ringo go, but 'bullying' when Iriki does it?
I've not seen Tayari try to hurt Ringo, but Iriki will sometimes hurt Jabali. Like the bite in this video. It's not auntie's job to punish (bite) her nephew at his age rn.
Tayari do so much more like taking her fingers n scratching Ringo eyes up wards even d jeeco has tried to stop her once before in the cave .
@@annbynum9689 as usual you are blinded by your hate for Tayari 🖤👹
@@eaglesflyproud well said!
Iriki was there watching the two little ones playing for a while then trying to separate them when the boys were tangled up,then started to play with little J and grabbing him into her arms, of course the aggressive mum Tayari hated it especially she is aware that she is the one left out of the family, she just hates to see her sister has great time with her son’s company. If Iriki was hurting little J, D’jeeco was nearby next to them would know and stop that,obviously Tayari’s violent aggressive behaviour doesn’t fit in this small family with calming soft characters,it’s wrong to put Tayari here she is not happy and her misbehaviour has badly effected other gorillas especially the little ones
Woo .. touchy today Tayari
你家小孩子被咬時相信妳也會很敏感☺️喔，可能你沒有小孩子😳
But she's not so sensitive when she attacks Ringo's mother and he gets dragged in the process.
Thank u she was bitting that baby to hard. He was screaming! what are y'all watching ! She reacted the right way
I know I'm late to the party, but I agree with other comments here..Jabali has his mother's personality. Busy, mischievous and just BAD! 🤣 And of course the little bad kids always cry when someone gets the better of them and they can't do what they want. But what fascinates me the most is that DJ ALWAYS knows Tayari is in the wrong and he scolds her. He comforts Iriki and then stares Tayari down as if to say, "Alright now. You need to chill out. I'm not gonna tell you anymore today". 🤣🤣 He's so patient with the wives spats and the active kids. Such a sweet husband and Daddy.
She was biting him too hard. When you see a female imitate the silverback pose like that , usually they are getting more serious
Lady you are nuts! Iriki BIT him
WOOOOOW😮
Tayari敏感了 在玩而已嘛
That crazy gorilla tayari? Iriki she's so sweet not bad ?
Таяри! Ты напугала всех🤣
Good boy djeeco 🦍 I hope zoo staff pays attention to djeeco he has ring worm fungus on his body, needs to apply cream for that 😌😌
How can you tell
Oh, is that what that is. I just thought he got into alot of scrimmages
If you're talking about the patches on DJ, iriki plucks his fur & herself as well.@@rhondaadams674
Iriki plucks DJ's fur & her own
@@rhondaadams674
They both love and aðore one 😅anotherXXXXXX
Tayari can only react on what she sees and hears. She heard her son screaming and saw his aunt on top of him and biting him, so she charged in to save her baby. It's how any decent mother would react. Right or wrong most any parent would rescue their child first and listen reasons later.
Tayari never bites Ringo or is insidious to him like Iriki is to Jabali. She just mainly holds him or drags him.
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@@sonjavandam1306 Yes Sonja, we know your stance already 🙄
I agree with you. I have never seen Tayari bite Ringo. If someone has seen this then they need to link the video(s) so that all of us can see it with our own eyes. I honestly wish all of the videographers of these zoos and primate parks would show all the facets of gorillas’ personalities/behaviors as they do with Taipei Zoo. These commenters compare this troop to other gorilla troops at other zoos’ videos they watch, but what they aren’t factoring in is that some of the videographers edit their videos to only show viewers the good and not all facets of gorillas.
@@misskay_25 What ever.🤣
Haha what ?
A good mama
Jabali you little rough neck! I think Iriki is the only one to put fear in Jabali. I think she bites him just hard enough to let him know. And he does not like it one bit! He rolls up like a little pill bug!
Jabali is a baby, when Ringo is a little older he will do the same.
Djeeco always has his women in check
Do Jabali and Ringo have different mothers?
Yes, Tayari is the mother of Jabali and Iriki is the mother of Ringo. Tayari and Iriki are sisters and D'jecco is the father to both.
@@kimberlybettis8509 Thank You!!
Iriki 應該是也想和小J玩但小J不願意，Tayari 就認為她在欺負小J，為了保護小J出手打了姐姐....
Jabali 有大叫🤣只是吵雜收不清楚，我把聲音關掉了
@@gorilla.djeeco.family 可能因為小J不願和阿姨玩大叫,Tayari聽見以為兒子被欺負打了姊姊
TAYARI é bem doida mesmo...Todas a vezes que pega RINGO e o arrasta e faz o que bem quer com ele, tudo bem. Mas quando IRIKI brinca com JABALI, TAYARI a ataca com agressividade.😡
Does anyone know of a post that says Tayari was a problem at the zoo where she came from? Something about her wanting to mate with males in the group.
Could be she is the dominant female? and is reminding everyone of that!
Ela é muito ruim porque nem amor por Jabali ela tem.Nem liga a mínima pra Jabali,nunca liga pra ele.Jabali é amado por D'jeeco.
Wake up people! They are babies and moms. Babies play …. Moms protect.
Tayari is just a grumpy unsettled aggressive mum, doesn’t want to see others playing and get along well, she knows her own son little J is friendly and close to Iriki, sometimes even trying to stop her snapping Ringo from Iriki,little J is smart but sometimes get confused by his mum’s behaviour,the Zoo should pay more attention to her and offering her some kind of treatments and improve her disciplinary issues
Maybe she thinks that way because of the way she picks All the time
Exactly
No estaba haciendo nada malo Iriki , solo estaba jugando con Jabalí, no es para que Tayari se haya puesto así de agresiva. 🤔🙄😟
😘😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
Tayari use of force against Iriki was right! She saw her child being bitten by Iriki and she defended him
In slow motion: looked like Iriki did bite Jabali on his back-how hard, I don‘t know-and, though we can‘t hear anything, he looked to be screaming, but Tay didn‘t show up right away. Iriki continued giving Jabali a workover, hard to tell if it included another bite. He was definitely wanting mommy at that point. I imagine Iriki gets tired of his pesky tornado behavior. I would. Even DJ does at times. And I often think Jabali could use a little disciplining. When Tay finally arrived she was hell bent, mouth open, and probably making some noise. Iriki jumped straight up in the air. In the tussle, it appeared that Tay caught Iriki with an uppercut to the chest or jaw that sent her over the cliff. DJ seemed totally confused! He stared and stared at Iriki, his mild submissive mate, like What the heck was that? He took neither to task, just stood around dumbfounded, debating. The part that actually tugged at my heart was at 4:11 when Jabali flew off the cliff and Tay caught him in her arms. (I‘m usually no fan of Tay, often wishing Iriki would just stand up and deck her.)
I’m telling you that little kid is a bat! He can fly! I don’t like to see either kid in distress but I wish Iriki would do this when Tay takes Ringo. “Hey! Drop that kid!”
Tayari actually took care of Jabali very much, usually she let Jabali play freely, when Jabali shouted, Tayari immediately rushed to his side and chased away Iriki. Tayari often seems rude to take Ringo away, but her behavior to Ringo is the same as Jabali, so I guess Tayari sees that as a way of training. And Iriki's behavior towards Jabali will never be used to treat Ringo. In contrast, Tayari is actually not as bad as everyone thinks.
@@gorilla.djeeco.family there's usually something left out when people say 'not that bad' and it appears that Ringo's behavior towards his 'auntie' leaves one to think differently. I saw one day when he appeared unafraid to go near her or pass by her (after D'jeeco had had enough and put a couple holes in her). Otherwise Ringo is creeping around looking around corners for her. And as soon as he spots her, he beats a path to his mother. Its mist unfortunate that the whole compound is Jabali's playground while Ringo's is limited to a 5 or 10 foot radius around his mother.
I have not seen a mother gorilla be so brutal to another gorilla's baby but I guess it competition. I'm glad DJ knew who was naughty and stood by Iriki to let her know he wasn't happy with her.
My And u can she she was purposely gripping him so he cld not get away from her.
it's so funny seeing grown human folks on this post talking about baby j a animal deserve to be bitten because he played too raw. These are damn animals all the gorilla videos I watched with baby gorillas this is how they play. stop acting like these animals or human.
100%! I watch gorilla videos daily, and the way Jabali and Ringo play is perfectly normal. Neither one is playing too rough.
It's a good thing that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
誰是誰非?
Who knows?????🙊🤷
Iriki 把小J給弄痛了，要不小J不會叫亂叫求救，他平常跟爸爸玩也不會這樣，iriki 真的比較小心眼常會欺負小J，兩兄弟年紀差不多再怎麼玩怎麼打也不會造成傷害，大猩對小猩就很危險
I agree with you. But your can’t tell that to these commenters who hold these gorillas to human standards.
@@MegUSN52 👍👍🥰🥰
修羅場やん 我が子供を守るために！！😂
我怎麼感覺Iriki是在跟小J搔癢，跟牠玩呢～ 小孩子會叫是正常吧～ 牠以為阿姨要對牠怎樣，但其實Iriki的表情跟輕輕的動作，就是在逗牠而已啊～😆 反而是Tayari 沒有從頭看，聽到兒子叫，以為Iriki背地裡在偷偷“欺負”小J～😅 而這就跟人類一樣，沒有從頭看到尾，就以當下的視角去判斷事情，但其實真的是誤會喔～ 這次Tayari 像吃了“炸藥”一樣，老公D'jeeco 出來排解也好啦～ 只是這樣兩個媽媽會不會短時間內都在“冷戰”呢🦍🦍？🤔
I guess I saw that interaction differently. It looked to me like see was playing with him since he was getting a little rough with ringo. Tayari has been in a mood for several days now and I think was looking for an excuse. Tkh
That's the way I saw it too.
@@deadsmoke198 🎯👍
If youve seen older videos you would see different. Iriki has taken Jabali and slammed him on his head multiple times. Its hard to tell here but I see towards end of playing that Iriki is biting a bit too hard and you can see Jabali is in pain and wants out by they way hes grabbing and pulling her hair to let her know it hurts.
I don’t know why she has all the sex
I thought she was just playing with the baby.
Me Too 😊
Iriki sería feliz sin su hermana diabolica
Iriki 有時會很陰險的對小J，tayari這次做的好‼️
Today i saw for the first time that jabali was afraid 😳
Just looked at the video again and I don't see a lot of comfort from tayari to jabali. In fact the next time I see him he is coming of the cave with iriki. Now he wants to please his mom and is not playing.tkh
可憐的J寶😔Iriki 咬痛了他
Jabalí es un canzôn
Iriki felt J was bullying biting and playing too rough with baby Ringo and rushed to protect her baby
沒錯！Iriki在保護Ringo不要被Jabili,咬，壓制！所以牠做一樣的事，讓J了解，T媽很多時間都在樂在一個獨處，Jabali一隻自己，找Ringo玩的咬的多次！這是場好賭注！不然Tayari不會跑來跟Jabali抱的和餵奶！J總是很餓！也總是學習Tayari戰鬥！一直以來，T一直在思考搶Ringo🤗😃🦍💢💥🤣
It was simple play and Jabali overreacted screaming to mom. It's funny now because I can see this trait in Jabali, he's a bit of a crybaby and Ringo seems more assertive. I wont be the least bit surprised if Ringo is the Alpha over Jabali. He's already giving Jabali all he can handle when they are playing. At the current rate Ringo will be kicking Jabali's azz in a few years.
Dj can move...
Having 2 wives can be a handful!
Especially when they are sisters
Tayari is nasty, she’s done some biting on Ringo an when fights start she’s usually the one to start them. She’s possessive of DJeeco. Iriki minds her business an is always off on her own
Rewatched that Iriki was playing a bit hard Tayari was doing the right thing for her boy. They both have there moments
For whatever reasons, Tayari is not the best of mom gorillas. I see a little more of acceptance of Jabali as time goes on but she still rations his milk time. Little Jabali as adorable as he is has naturally picked up some bad charateristisc from Tayari. Most of the affection that Jabali gets is from Iriki and D'jeeco. Hence his independent behaviour. Eg foraging for himself. To me Jabali is always hungry. Tayari treats Ringo worse when she kidnaps him. So she just seemed to have got back some of her own medicine. If she spent more time with Jabali, he would not have so much time on his hands even though I love the interaction between Jabali and Ringo. And yes, I am aware that they are not humans but they are very social just as humans are. And who is to know what goes on in their heads.
As usual you have nothing to contribute just your bias opinion
@@JMO7777 This is one of the happiest troops I have seen of the zoo one's. I have only started watching them and it saddens me to see so many hating on a young baby gorilla. Jabali seems to have incurred the hate of alot of people. Perhaps they need to broaden their watching as much older siblings than him literally drag their younger siblings around . At least until Daddy steps in lol
@@JMO7777 ironic. That all you or I have to contribute. Our biased opinion!!
@@v.n.c8841 the definition of bias is prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person or group compared with another usually in way to be considered unfair. From day 1 you have been posting nothing but negative comments about one member of this troop relentlessly and that’s Tayari. That’s text book “called being bias” and that’s something I personally am not capable of.
@@JMO7777 Clearly, you missed the point. Opinion is just that not fact. Your opinion is just as biased as mine is. Let it go.
Iriki เล่นกับ Jabli แต่ Madam Tyari หึงผัวช่วนั่น เลยไม่ค่อยชอบ 😂😂Iriki ค่อยหาเรื่องอยู่ 😂😂แล้ว
She was playing with him really ppl
Tayari is a nut case
Le dio con un odio africano
Great Job Iriki! Yes Indeed! Protect your baby..let J see how it feel..he bits and mauls baby J on a daily! T walks leaves her baby for Iriki to watch..just checks on him periodically..randomly. That is how Baby Ringo feels..when J is biting his feet and hands ..I did not see any outcrys..when J bite baby Ringo on his back and he screamed in pain?? T needs to watch her baby. She sits watching as he plays roughly with baby Ringo..Iriki sick of watching J. While T off wondering around doing her. T is suppose to protect her baby! Keep him with you. Even DJ is biting J harder. This needed to happen. Take your baby and move around!
I agreed with you.
Jabali ! You have to stop bullying Ringo!!! You always bully Ringo!!!! Now it your turn to be bullied by another one !!IT SERVES YOU RIGHT!!!!
He is only a little 👶🦍. 👈 Mama need to Watch him....
Stop using human norms on gorillas