Record, Mix, and Release a Song (Part 3): Recording Virtual Drums
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Recording virtual drums is often a crucial skill for a home recording enthusiast, because it’s rare to have the space and abilities needed for real drums. In this episode we look at my method for developing a virtual drum part specifically for this song.
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Enjoying this immensely. Hits like.....back to the video. Thanks :)
The first one in! Thank you :)
What an absolutely brilliant series this is turning out to be! Thank you so much for all the time and effort you're putting into this Mike.
Loving this! I just got EZ Drummer 2 and look forward to learning it. I am going to go back and check out the other parts of your series.
Thanks for watching man. Look forward to seeing you around for the rest of the series :)
Another great, well produced video. I love how you call the Toms “Tom Toms” so adorable 😂
I wanna steal it back from the sat nav industry!
you are making my quarantine much more enjoyable, thanks!!!
Another hit out of the park buddy. Good work!
You are too kind Jimmy. Thank you!
Nice. Intriguing that the drum's output is not separated yet (as I do via templates). I'm looking forward to the next part for enlightenment :D
Yes, its mostly a separation of tasks thing. I very rough mix is the only thing I need now, and this song is soon to have many more channels. So for now it just keeps the console view a little cleaner.
HI Mike, I have been scouring you tube videos for instructionals on Cakewalk and general home studio recording, and yours are without a doubt hands down the best I have come across. Keep up the great work !! thank you from Canada !!!
This series is perfect. I just got back into setting up my home studio but when I sat down to record....I had no idea where to even start. There's been alot of relearning and your video series has helped out so much! I'm still not 100% set up but its getting there!
Thanks for posting..this is why I donate to your site.
Thank you Tony! MUCH appreciated :)
I find your videos an excellent blend of relevant information and detail, musical considerations, wisdom and genuineness. I have been inspired to slow down, and invest a bit in learning the software because, as you helpfully point out, it will make it easier and better in the long run.
Once again a really good session. Thanks Mike. Years ago when doing a fair bit of drums I would use the Sonar Step Sequencer. In the sequencer it is a very simple task to adjust velocities and even the timing of individual drums or hits. The thing with the sequencer it is really easy to create ghost hits and drum rolls (starting at low velocity and increasing toward the end and also moving notes within the roll using earlier or later hits). I found it easier than trying to do it via the midi keyboard. The Step Sequencer in Sonar (Cakewalk) is fairly underrated in my opinion. Also in other cases as recently with a bass part I did Quantise the part very tightly then used the CAL Humanise option to shift it all slightly which worked fine.
Nice tips thank you Reevant!
I forgot to add (actually I forgot) you can also split hits in the sequencer and change the flam time to make drum rolls and various hits more interesting. As I said the sequencer is a good tool to know and is often forgotten. Tony
I had to come back to rewatch all your stuff about doing drums in Cakewalk. And to shout about my new guitar teacher. I just had my first lesson with Michael Angelo Batio last night (he's the shred god who said, "I'm gonna give you the keys to the Lamborghini," in a now-infamous instructional video, and it's become a sort of meme many years later...he also taught Tom Morello of RAtM, and invented both the double-neck and quad-neck guitars he became famous for playing). He's going to be giving me regular Skype lessons for a while, and he told me to forget about using a metronome for practicing my songs (none of his songs yet, because that's not possible for me at my level). Apparently he used a drum machine throughout his learning, which really helped him with timing, and if you watch him do any playthroughs you can see his timing his amazing. So, I'm finally trying to properly figure out drums in Cakewalk (by the way, he said Cakewalk is a great DAW). I'm playing things like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, but I'm playing way too fast (according to him, my picking speed is really fast, so yay! he seemed surprised how fast I was) and I was playing too timidly, so he recommended a drum mix to avoid that. I really lucked out with my new teacher. My brain still feels like it's exploding a little bit.
another fine video, i use SUPERIOR DRUMMER and do everything inside of that inside of cakewalk. Usually i use the buildt in example midi and redo them inside the program, but this video has got me thinking I could try midi recording them myself thanks.
Another belter Mike!
Cheers Joe!
Good one Mike! I gotta check out the series. Cheers bud!
Great series, I really enjoy it! Greetings from sunny Poland :)
1:51 Adjusting the velocity curve on the keyboard. You should set it before you record.
2:39
3:17 Getting the right drum sounds
4:14 Other separate MIDI tracks for each drum. That's how he organises it
4:50, 6:06 Extra feature in Cakewalk. A Drum map, an alternative to the Piano Roll. Drag drum MIDI up to another MIDI track then double click on it.
7:26 Recording different sections of drum kit onto different tracks. And achieving natural velocity with the drumming.
8:30
9:34
10:10 Quantizing the drums
11:26 Setting the Strength
12:37
13:27 Remember what's actually possible by a real drummer, he just has 2 hands
13:57 Recording kick and snare
14:20 If the kick and bass are in sync it can sound very punchy and rhythmic.
18:06 Won't quantize the toms because he likes them very human
18:41 Mix. We'll end up with many outputs for the drum kit. But at first just keep it as the stereo output to keep it simple. So don't separate them all into different outputs just now. You can do it later in the mixing stage.
Great job once again Mike..!
Good stuff, Mike!
Thank you!
Thanks mike
Thanks David, I appreciate you taking time to watch my videos :)
Hey Mike! I'm making my way through these awesome tutorials, and had a question regarding saving projects. My hard drive is large enough for my daily use, however, I'm afraid it's not going to handle the Cakewalk files, especially as I add more to the projects. I do however have a TB of space via OneDrive, and was curious if you (or anyone who would like to chime in) has used this method for storing projects while working on them. I use this method for my Adobe projects, and so far it's worked out very well. Thanks in advance!!
I plan to do this with a 2TB external drive I have so I will let you know how I get on. I would assume as long as you import active projects back to your PC drive (where cakewalk will be looking for them) when you want to work on them I don't see why this would be a problem.
Great vid again mike. Really enjoyin this series. Is that snare you used linked to another?? Something i have been doin recently 👍👍👍
Hi Glyn. Its a cool trick. But in this case the doubled snare is coming form the kit, and the Cajon (later to be replaced by the real Cajon).
Really interesting! I was wondering though why you are recording your different drum parts on midi tracks instead of audio tracks. Thanks
whats wrong with using the step sequencer for drums, you can still adjust the velocity and it is pretty quick. And easy to use. I use it with a plug in as well. great tutorial.
why do you record cymbals and drums separately? Is it production relevant or just personal preference? I've always just recorded the full kit in one go
Hi Mike - loving your videos - top presentation. I've been recording using Audacity and making the drum parts and sometimes bass and others using samples on Hydrogen Drums. Any thoughts on using Hydrogen to export wav drum parts to Cakewalk?
Loving your tutorial!
Do you leave your 'guide' drum track on or do you mute it, when recording the virtual drums. THANKS!!
Such a coincidence! I am just starting to produce my song and then i found your channel!!!! A great playlist also.
Two questions from me:
1. How to create track with drum, guitar, etc icons?
2. On midi track, to switch from keyboard view to name/label view, do we have to move the recorded midi to other empty midi track? I think on Studio One we can switch between views without moving any events.
Im using cakewalk
Hi Azka, and congratulations on getting started with your song! In some of my videos you can see I use icons for the instruments. Just right click on that area where the icon is, and select "Load Track Icon". There are a whole bunch that come with Cakewalk.
I hope I have understood your second question. Essentially, when switching views, you dont have to move any events. For midi parts the main ones would be Piano Role view, Staff View, and the Event List.They will all open in separate views with tabs to switch between.
@@CreativeSauce hi! Thanks for the swift reply. Question one resolved. For question two, i will try it and please dont mind if i come back here again to ask you 😄
Thanksssssssss!!!
@@CreativeSauce Hi again. Another questions :)
1. In this video, how did you create your track 7-10? Did you create 7 and then added 8-10 manually? Or did you use the advanced setting on Instrument track creation? I tried this advanced setting, but only got 1 instrument track + its midi track. I cant find the way to add more midi tracks for the same instrument track.
2. You created track 11 to demonstrate drum map. Did you have to create new midi track, record some events, then move them track 8? Or is there any other ways to switch from piano roll view to drum map view without moving any events like you did?
Thanks for your help :)
You purchased Cakewalk Sonar as your opening pics shows Addictive Drums rather than the Studio Instruments drms included with Cakewalk By Bandlab. I would like it if Cakewalk By Bandlab would bring back and improve Session drummer 3.
Great video as usual. Just wondering if you always record drums from scratch or if you ever use any of the pre-programmed beats that come with Addictive Drums.
Hi Paul. I rarely use pre made beats, unless its to provide inspiration. Normally I have a song written, and its easier for me to write the part, than search for a pre-made beat. However, if people want to use existing beats, its cool - there is no 'right' way.
Thanks for the helpful video! Have you ever had your timing shift on you? I set it up with a metronome track initially at 120 BPM, but when I went back into it today I had to adjust it to 119.2 to get it to sit right. Did I click something and drag the track out of time? I know you can do it intentionally in Audacity, but Cakewalk is unfamiliar territory still.
Hmmm, I cant say I've had that happen. Very odd.
@@CreativeSauce I must have grabbed it somehow and stretched it (or shrunk it, I guess). I'll have to work on my DAWing skills.
i just obtained CAKEWALK it's awesome as are yer vids but i was wondering is it possible to use an external drum machine and still be able to get everything to line up like if there are tempo changes within the same song etc.? i wanna use a BOSS DR. RHYTHM but i can't figure out what to do with tempo changes and still getting everything to line up.
These vids are very helpful and thankyou but...
I'm struggling here. Due to budget/talent constraints the step sequencer is how I'm programming drums it's just how I'm comfortable doing it after years of working with a Yamaha RX8 but the cakewalk step sequencer is limited to 64 beats/ 16 steps where I'm getting around 2 mins worth of a 4 minute song. Is there a way to extend this time frame? I can't find an answer to this anywhere. Please help 😫
Can you import audio from a drum machine? I use a BOSS DR770 and I program my drums like that I really like the sounds in my machine and it’s just easier for me to program a song like that.
Great vid. LOL Ive never heard anyone calling the toms tom toms :)
Pretty sure that toms is just short hand for tom toms.
@@pwykes It is Paul but gen speaking folks just say toms.
Wait until you catch my pianoforte videos!
We've got lazy over the years. I'm sure it used to be called bass drum drum.
@@CreativeSauce Was playing the spoons originally called cutlery?
Can you use Quantize to align vocals as well?
Is there a way to combine the tracks into one once one is done recording the separate tracks"
Mix drums to taste, then Send to a VCA channel. The VCA fader will then raise or lower the kit as a whole in the mix