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Well personally I'm glad they didn't keep it, because it wasn't in the books. Draco never explicitely did the right thing and I think that's the point of his character: he was lost and scared and he was mostly scared for his life. So doing that in front Voldemort and the Death Eaters is completely out of character and I think it is the reason why JK. Rowling never made him explicitely stand up for the good side. So I think it is the only deleted scene that I am glad it didn't make it in the movie, that would have ruined the essence of the character for me (not to the extend of what they did to Ginny's character though)
They didn't put it cause it made no sense as harry disarmed Draco in the Malfoy manor and Draco lost his mother's wand at the room of requirements and Lucius already gave his wand to voldemort. By this point Malfoy family was wandless and Draco giving him a wand made no sense, as none of them had any wands to give
Another climax edit was that in the books Neville immediately kills the snake when he pulls the sword out of the hat. And the way Voldemort dies is that, Harry used a disarming spell while Voldemort used a killing curse. So Harry having the Elder Wand, it overpowered Voldemort's and so the Disarming spell won the duel, and in the process of Voldemort's wand flipping from Voldemort's hand to Harry's, the killing curse hit Voldemort and he died.
If you notice in the movie deathly hallows part 2, when Draco is called to the other side by Voldemort, he doesn’t go. When his father calls him over, he still doesn’t go. But when his mother holds out her hand and he looks at her, he knows he can’t leave her, no matter what that means for him. Narcissa is the one person in his family who didn’t abuse him, who loved him and put him over anything. And Draco’s love for his mom outweighed anything in his mind, even doing the right thing. THATs why they didn’t keep that scene in. Because Draco as a character just wouldn’t be able to look at his moms face and ignore her.
Exactly. He didn't want anything to happen to his mother nor leave her side. Draco was brainwashed by his father but he understood love and family from his mother. His mother is his guiding light.
@@denizkenger52 That actually only happened in one take, So the look on Tom Felton face was the actors actual shock to the hug. so they kept it in. It's not canon though.
Also, in the books Petunia was very jealous of Lily for being a witch. She wrote several times to Dumbledore begging him for her to go to Hogwarts. At one point she gave up and turned it to Lily being a freak. 😔💔
it still doesn’t redeem her in anyways abusing a child for many years cause you were jealous of the child’s mother and because you were grieving isnt an excuse the Dudley’s never did anything to makeup for that abuse and they never really can make up for it.
@@thatrandomaccount171 it might redeem her if you consider that harry is a horcrux. We saw Ron's reaction from wearing one for a little while. The Dudley's being in close proximity to Harry for 11 years caused them the be horrible to him without realizing or knowing why.
To add a tiny bit more context: -- Dudley saying he didn't think Harry was a waste of space: in the book, the scene plays out almost exactly the same way, except he also says "you saved my life." (from the dementors). It's also revealed by JKR on her Pottermore website, that Dudley and Harry maintained a somewhat civil relationship after the Battle of Hogwarts, and that they kept in touch and got together for holidays so that each others' kids could be in each others' lives. -- Putting a taboo on Voldemort's name (a spell that can locate people when saying certain keyword(s)) was a bit more expanded on in the books, from the very first book, Hagrid describes how scared people are to say the name because of how traumatic everyone's experiences of the first war were, so even after his defeat in Godric's Hollow after trying to kill Harry, people were still afraid to say the name. Ron remarks that the only people who weren't afraid to say the name were people that were opposed to Voldemort enough to actually fight him (like Dumbledore, and the Order of the Phoenix), so they put the taboo on the name itself to track down those people. --"Let us go, you filthy Squib!" ... a 'squib' is the opposite of a muggleborn witch/wizard (like Hermione), in that they are a non-magical person from a magical family. Mr Filch has grown up in the magical world, but has no magical powers.
YES! WE WANT MOOORREEE POTTER! It’s funny how Quinn and Answer have a hard time to remember most of the character’s names, which is totally understandable but Oak knows all of them hahaha we have a huge HP fan here specially by the fact that he’s not a bookworm but found a way to “read” the books, that’s what we call a pureblood guys
Omg the Oak is such a potterhead now, I could cry. It really made this whole thing so much more meaningful. Seeing the transformation on camera. So glad, this isn't the end of HP journey with you guys, leaving suggestions in a different comment because it'll get too long
@@Gnossiene369 means fan. It originates from an Eminem song called Stan where he had a fan obsess for him. Fans name was Stan which is now used for describing die hard fan.
Yes, when Luna's dad said Voldemort, at his home, after Hermione read the story of the three brothers, that's when all the death eaters/snachers came and took them to Malfoy manor. "He who must not be named". Also the books explaine every detail, they are so good and so much missing content.
Heyo, just checking in to say that in that one deleted scene, in which Filch locked the slytherins in the dungeon she called him a squib, not squid. Squib are essentially the opposite of muggleborns, both parents are magical and they themselves have no magical powers. Filch is one of them as Harry finds out during his first year when he was in Filches office and saw a letter from a course for Squibs. Highly recommend the Books/Audiobooks, so many characters get more fleshed out, Petunia for example. When Harry arrives with Dudley she actually knows what a Dementor is, because she heard of it before and many many many other moments which make the Dursleys and basically all other characters more 3D and even adds some nice characters like Peeves the Poltergeist, much more Dobby, who temporarily worked at Hogwarts, Hermionie who started an organization to help Houseelves and so on.
She was hiding behind the tree and spying on Snapey Poo telling Lily about the magical world and the trouble they get into, about the wizard prison and the guards that are called Dementors.
I think the deleated scene with Dudley was way more impactful than any other one. I actually think that Petunia scene highlighted just how selfish she truly was. She knew she lost her sister, whom she was jealous of. And with that knowledge, decided to mistreat this poor baby with no parents. When it all comes down to it, the only thing she reveals is her own pain. Not compassion or regret to her nephew. Just that she hurt
exactly the aunt and uncle have done nothing to make up for the abuse they put harry through and no one CAN do anything to make up for abuse once it’s done u cant undo it and just cause they went through something doesnt make it right
I think that’s ok. We don’t have to figure people. Acts of misbehavior are symptoms of unmet needs or fear. I don’t think they were trying to redeem the characters tho
She's scared and angry. She likely blames Harry for the death of her sister. Which, he sort of is. I mean, it was really a domino effect of people doing things. But, Voldemort is a scary, magical lizard man. Harry lives in her very house. Is it right for her to hate him? Of course not. But she is a person with feelings that make sense. It is hard to say how genuine Petunia is. She was jealous of Lily and treated her badly. But it may be that she really loved her a great deal but simply struggled with her feelings. Which would make her comment to Harry more compassionate than anything. She never let him in at all before. Something is more than nothing.
@@bongchoof “theyre also a person with feelings” looses all credibility when the petunia herself doesnt see harry as a person with feelings lmaoo dont be out here tryna justify abuse
The Oak was GREAT in this video. How he opened up about his past, talked about his father, and how he really stressed the importance/seriousness of racism and also it's parallels in Harry Potter. I admit, I often don't stick around for people's commentary after watch-through's if it's too long, but you guys really held my attention for over 20 minutes. Really love your guys' channel.
Late to the game, but absolutely this. That’s why I hate seeing death eater tattoos on people. I mean they have to know what that symbolizes other than them thinking it looks cool. I guess it’s much more acceptable and low key than a swastika tattoo 😒
I always thought Vernon and especially Petunia knew what the magical world was capable of, so they tried to deny and crush down anything magical to protect their own family, and even Harry himself. They didn't want him to bring magical attention to them and their family. They did it in the most gross manner, but I think they thought it would save them all in the long run.
Petunia's hate of all things magical really comes out of jealously of the fact that her younger sister was magic and she was not. She knew a lot about the magical world. She was even in contact with Dumbledore a couple of times. She and Vernon met James Potter and Vernon was a condescending asshole
She even tired to get Dumbledore to let her go to Hogwarts but he said no because she was not a witch. She was jealous that her sister Was a witch and she was not
Their biggest fear was that people would find out they were connected to the magical world, not for their physical safety but for what it would do to their reputation. They were proud to say that they were "perfectly normal people, thank you very much". They were very concerned with what their neighbors thought of them.
You guys did my favorite HP reactions by far!! I think I might even rewatch them just to see The Oak fall in love with the HP universe all over again ☺☺
A theory I have heard is that Harry being a horcrux caused the Dursley's to become more toxic than they were originally. Like the others, people being around them for large amounts of time changes who they were. Idk if it's ever been confirmed but it was something that made an impact to my view of them. Love your reactions, this journey was so much fun with you 3 😁
The Slytherins that were locked in the dungeon by Filtch called him a "filthy Squib", not squid. A Squib is a person that was born into a Wizarding family but is unable to do magic. Squibs are born with no magical abilities even though their biological parents are wizards. In Chamber of Secrets Harry, Ron and Hermione found out that Filtch is a Squib.
We learn about Filtch's lack of magical ability in the second book, when Harry saw a letter from Quickspell, a correspondence course in magic, on Filtch's desk. We see the letter briefly in the second movie, but it never elaborates on it.
Jk Rowling said that Dudley's attitude changed after being attacked by the dementor in the Order of Fenix, Because the Dementor shows him the worst part o himself.
Those first two scenes kill me. Of course they were set up to be hated but humanizing them a bit was amazing. I loved reading those scenes and was devastated they weren't in the film
Seeing Mr. Oak talk so passionately about this makes me so proud, I'm so glad you guys watched the series and that you liked it. And I look forward to seeing more content from you, not only Harry Potter.
When Filch was in the dungeons with the Slytherins, the girl (Pansy Parkinson) yelled "squib" not squid. A squib is a person who's parents are both magical but have no powers themselves! Essentially the opposite of a muggleborn.
I've always really loved the more subtle approach the final cut of the movie had with Draco's character. It walks the line of feeling sympathy for him without giving him a full fledged redemption arch, which I feel would have been a bit out of character for him. So much of his arch was about how much fear and trepidation he was feeling about his family and the things he was being asked to do. He became a really sympathetic character to me in that sense, but he also never struck me as someone very brave at all. I might be a bit more influenced by the book versions in my head though. It's hard to separate sometimes. haha
At one point, I kinda thought that Draco may have paralleled RAB a bit during HBP. Once we got into TDH, I could picture Regulus trying to hide how he was changing long enough to try to defeat Riddle, but didn't make it as far as he intended. That must have felt so harrowing for Regulus, but he ended up having an arc much closer to Snape than Draco. That said, I could see where Snape might see something relatable in Draco during those last couple of years. I think that was demonstrated in the opening TDH scene when Riddle murdered Burbage. We were shown both Snape & Draco's faces. I figured what Snape was hiding on the inside was shown on Draco's face.
The scenes with Dudley and Petunia were actually in the books, and written very well. I personally would've loved to have had those scenes in the movies. Draco's action of throwing the wand to Harry however, was not in the books, and I think JKR opposed to the scene because of that same fact. I'm actually glad it wasn't included in the movies as it gives a very fleshed out redemption arc for Draco at the battle, which never happened. Harry was presumed dead by Voldy and friends, so they had Hagrid carry his lifeless form with his wand (formerly Draco's) in hand. There waa no wand tossing needed in the first place. It would've given Draco credit for something he didn't do in the most important part of the war. In all honesty, Narcissa played a bigger role in the win, by lying to Voldemort about Harry being dead - and even that she did only so she could get to Draco in the castle. Draco at that time didn't really turn sides, mostly just feared for his and his mother's life. Basically, Draco did all those what could be "redeeming" actions (like not identifying Harry in the Manor) out of fear and fear alone, not with any intent to do the right thing. I believe JKR wanted to emphasize that not all baddies deserve an immediate redemption. I guess it was slightly implied that he had second thoughts, especially regarding his and his mom's safety, but that was all it was. Not to be harsh or anything, but JKR once mentioned that Draco represented cowardice, and that people should not romanticize him. His character development happened a bit later in his life, and happened over time - especially once him and his mom was rid of Lucius (as written in HP and the Cursed Child play).
While "not all baddies deserve redemption" is a fair view to have, I feel JKR has personal grudges that she wishes to keep in the story. And it shows in things like locking up the entire slytherin house in the dungeons, or not allowing Draco's redemption arc, or the absence of any redeeming/humanizing qualities to Umbridge (even Voldy gets humanized), etc. It almost feels like she has associated the characters with people in her own life that she has not forgiven.
@@PristinePerceptions of course! It is understandable that she's applied a lot of things in her life to her written work, and there's bound to be some bias. I personally find the Slytherins being locked in the Dungeons to be absurd as well (which, to be fair, only happened in the movie and didn't exist in the books). I really appreciate how Umbridge was characterized, though, as I do think she represents an idea that plenty of characters aside from the main villain can represent a worse evil - especially with her as she unfortunately is a very realistic portrayal. I also appreciate Draco's character's portrayal because although he didn't have a clear cut redemption arc in the book, he does represent a person who has grown up in the wrong environment, and is humanized in a way that he feels and shows abject fear in the face of an impossible task at such a young age, and prioritizes himself and his mother despite it all. I think these things are redemption enough for his character, despite how vague they may be..
@@juib1738 This is true, it only happens in the movies, which why I found it absurd why the screenwriters made that choice 😅 I believe all the students were evacuated, and only those of age who wanted to fight could remain.
The scene with Petunia is NOT in the books. In the book she finds herself in a room alone with Harry, seems momentarily startled to realize it's just them. She looks at him, seems as if she might speak, but decides otherwise and leaves the room.
In the book, it was mentioned that Aunt Petunia was jealous of her sister going to Hogwarts. She even wrote to Prof Dumbledore if she can go to Hogwarts too. It didn't help that their neighbour Professor Snape got to go to Hogwarts too like Lily so she felt left out. SQUIB (not squid)is a non magical person born to a witch or a wizard parent like Mr Filch and Harry's neighbour. They didn't include that scene of Malfoy handing Harry a wand because that never happened in the book. Malfoy's redemption happened when he lied to his parents and aunt and said that the boy that Fenrir(werewolf)captured with the swollen face was not Harry.
I could listen to your comments about this world for hours. So entertaining and interesting to hear your opinions and insights. Thank you for the comments on discrimination and your direct candour. Can't wait for hunger games next! 😁
Hearing the Oak mention all the Potter content he took in and name dropping Movie Flame made me think "One of us! One of us!" Lol this is just adorable and I love this journey so much. I rock with people who say they might rewatch to see the love develop all over again. Super Carlin Brothers' quizzes are some of my favorite HP content now, they are so funny and competitive
Petunia lost Lily long before Lily was killed as well. In a way, magic took Lily away from her when they were children; she even tried being accepted to Hogwarts and wrote a letter to Dumbledore but he could not allow it. Her hurt and resentment separated her from her sister until it was too late. It seems Harry represented the thing that broke up their family and made her feel inferior, and she couldn’t get past it. Maybe in her mind, mistreating Harry and favoring Dudley was a way to get back at the magic world.
Little info... When flich was putting Slytherins in dungeon. A girl pansy Parkinson yelled Squib. I guess you called it a squid. It's squib. It's kind of a person who has wizard parents but you don't have magical ability. It's kinda the opposite of muggle-born.
The Oak is now a Professor in Wizarding History! And yes that Draco arc is a big loss in the plot.. A huge lesson that should never be not mentioned.. Also, just like Severus, imagine that he'd actually be in the history of the Battle of Hogwarts as one of the biggest hero.. and would be a big inspiration for kids (Slytherin or not) who are raised the same. 💔
How about this: Read the books and have discussions of, let's say, 5 chapters at a time. It's a tale of two boys, Potter and Longbottom. I bet you didn't catch that in the movies. Longbottom is much more important than the movies let on. I would really like to see your opinion of which is best, movies or books.
In the book Harry already had his wand under his shirt when Hagrid was carrying him and after the battle Harry used the Elder wand to fix his original wand that was broken in Godric’s Hollow because the Elder wand is the strongest wand and can basically do anything including fixing wands that are far beyond repair
In the books Aunt Petunia has many scenes where she had a lot of good in her. Unlike Uncle Vernon, Petunia knows a lot about the wizarding world, because as a child she was obsessed about going to Hogwarts. She creates hate towards her sister, who was a witch and also hated the whole wizarding world became she wasn't a witch like her sister and so was rejected an admission to Hogwarts. Each time Vernon tries to remove Harry from his house, Petunia stops Vernon, because she knows very well that the safest place for Harry is that house, because she too provides Harry with the same protection that Lilly gave HarryHarry before she died.
I like the context that Harry wanted to protect the only family he had left. Even though they were nice and even petunia said a snitty comment as they left, he still wanted to protect them. Shows how good hearted he truly is.
Harry is not only the chosen one but he's also a horcrux. Being in close proximity to him for 11 years changed their mood towards him. Just like when ron eas wearing it, it changed his mood.
This whole series has been amazing and hands down my favorite Harry Potter reaction videos. After watching them all on RUclips I HAD to watch the full versions on your patreon. I love your authenticity and it has been joy to see how obsessed with Harry Potter you all have become (especially The Oak!). Your reactions made me feel like I was watching the movies for the first time. I can tell that you all are upstanding guys aka the best selection of people to provide commentary on these movies as you really understand the messages they are trying to convey. Can’t wait to watch more of your videos!
Watching you guys go on the Potter journey has been such a pleasure. Particularly watching The Oak warm up to the movies as they went along and not seeing them so much as kids movies. Another world I hope you guys get into soon (and I’m sure many would like to see your reaction to this as well) is Avatar the Last Airbender. Arguably one of the greatest animated series of all time. I’ve seen it described as “a love letter to humanity”. Just something to consider 🙂👍
Omg I’m 3 months late with this but I just started watching your reactions and I would LOVE IT if you guys did Avatar The last air bender! To me that is the only perfect show with the most perfect ending. And the lessons and character arcs are the absolute best. It took my boyfriend a minute to get into it because it technically is a kids show and it can be very goofy but it is SO deep and important. I think you guys would really enjoy going on that beautiful journey with Aang ❤️
I found this channel when looking for HP reactions. I enjoyed watching them all. I especially love the ongoing conversations about the world & how you all really joined the fandom. I would love to see more discussion of the HP world; especially after you've explored more of the background. Even more, I'd love to hear your thoughts after reading/listening to the book series that started the whole amazing phenomena.
Draco is the first young wizard Harry meets in the books, meets him on diagon ally before going to Hogwarts, he definitely deserved a solid arc and he kinda got short changed in the movies.
The way you guys talk about shows or movies and the way in which you break stuff down and actually pay attention to the scenes and understand the gravity of some of the situations characters are in is absolutely amazing! Like y’all find the nuance to situations and tie it to real life experiences and truly appreciate it for what it is! Not to mention that y’all are very honest and open about struggles and even things that you’ve done in the past and how you’ve grown since has given me an insurmountable amount of respect for all of you!!! Truly thank you because y’all may not see it but you help lots of people as well and there’s always something to learn!
Definitely waiting for the full round table on Potter! Hope that's still coming. Absolutely thrilled to see this video uploaded this morning - love your Potter content! I adore the Dudley scene.
I grew up reading, waiting, watching HP. I even went to a premier here in Mexico (yes hello from 🇲🇽) 8.5 months pregnant. Now that my kids are old enough I have made potter heads 😁 But as Oak there are so many lessons that how could I miss the chance? PS. Love your reactions and it is awesome to see 3 grown men become potter heads 🤘
My best friend was 8 months when we went to the 6th midnight premiere. We ended up leaving a tinny bit before the credits so she could get out of the packed theater easily. The boy will be 13 next month.
I felt like his uncle and Dudley really mirrored Lucius and Draco Malfoy. The Dursleys abused Harry and spoiled Dudley but demanded Dudley treat Harry badly as well. It was abusive for Dudley In a Different way. Lucious abused Draco non stop but gave him everything, he also made Draco feel like it was his place to go after Harry and mudbloods etc. Draco could never leave his family because his mother was the only one who protected and showed him love , he was surrounded by a family of psychopaths. (FYI - Dracos mom when bent over Harry to see if he is dead asks Harry if Draco’s alive? I assume Harry said yes. I think she felt she owed Harry and that is why she to.d Voldemort Harry was Dead. That was a huge part) ALSO I Think Harry was struck when he saw his father bullying Snapes memory. I WAS SO GLAD HE GOT TO KNOW SNAPE THROUGH THE PENSIVE.
The Oak (Begining HP Journey): yeah... idk if I'm gonna be into these movies guys. Just being honest, I don't think it's my thing.. The Oak (Now): so did you see that? Let me explain- I've been consuming constant HP info and learning from my new online bffs in the Potter Fandom bc I crave more Potter. "I wouldnt have minded 16 HP movies." When can we watch Fantastic Beasts? I'm so ready! Edit: I'm so glad you love it 💜 as soon as you vocalize your doubt, I thought "He doesn't know what he's in for, just wait and see buddy" Double Edit: If you want more Potter content, there's entire documentaries about how they created the creatures, set designs, stunts (with clips of the actors laughing while suspended by wires etc) and interviews with the author discussing the movies and how she came up with quidditch and the dementors etc. So, aside from fan theories, if you want more from the actual original source + the actors, I would look up those docu's
Yeah the Dudley moment should have been in it for sure. Considering what we know about dementors via the book and the movie, you remember what the dementors do-suck out your happiness and hope; you relive your worst moments until they suck you dry (pause). I like that in the Order of the Phoenix as Harry tells his aunt and uncle what happened, he sees Dudley different. Dudley was such a dick to him so it’s like ‘what kind of negativity/struggles could he ever have experienced? Who are you?’ I wish that thought of Harry was conveyed in some way whether in what we saw or by adding this scene.
The series may be over but their journey into the world of Harry Potter is just beginning :) I'm so glad you guys are really diving into this even after the final movie. I could honestly listen to you guys wax lyrical about any subject. Especially how passionate The Oak now is about all this. I'm so glad I found your channel when you started Sorcerer's Stone.
I would love to see you guys do the Pottermore sorting! It would be so much fun to see which house you’d all be sorted into, and your patronus, wand, etc. This has been such a fun journey to be able to witness. You’re all fully fledged Potterheads now and we’re so proud🥺⚡️
I dont remember Draco doing this in the books? Perhaps time to read them again. The films changed alot. The battle between Harry and Voldy is in the big hall in the book, and everyone can hear and understand how Harry owns the elder wand. I felt the movies did this wrong. Voldy in the book just fall dead like a ragdoll, and that is more final than turning to ash, away from everyone. In my humble oppinion
Yes! The whole point of Moldy Voldy’s death in the books was he died just like any other man. Nothing special about it. So much more impactful. And I will FOREVER be mad that The Charge of the House-Elves was left out, as was Kreacher’s whole freaking character arc!
@@ediblemongoose EXACTLY! I tell people this who haven't read the books all the time. They completely left out Kreacher's character arc! And the totality of Snape's redemption. I wanted EVERYONE to hear it from Harry's own mouth. I remember leaving the movies pissed off about that.
@@VeganQuiche Yes, after the 4th movie (and even after the third when they didn't explain who the marauders were), I always left the theater pissed off. I didn't even see the last two movies in theaters. I thought I was a bad Harry Potter fan for only liking one or two movies. Watching it through the eyes of this channel made me like them more. I wish Warner Brothers would update the CG from some earlier movies, add the deleted scenes, and re-release them.
That’s because Draco didn’t do that in the book Harry had Draco’s wand and had gone under his invisibility cloak because all hell had broken loose when Voldemort placed the sorting hat over Neville’s head and set it on fire along with Neville. I was a bit miffed at the movies for not including Harry’s explanation of how the wand was not working and how none of the spells Voldemort was preforming on the people Harry protected were lasting or binding. Because Harry having gone to the woods to die at the hands of Voldemort to protect the people that he loved at Hogwarts, that act of love had effectively created the same Magical shield his mother had created for Harry when she died. That Voldemort fell for that action twice showed that he had learned nothing about love and how it’s a magic greater than any other.
I can't lie, you three are quickly becoming my favourite reacts channel and I kinda hate myself for saying I like react channels. That being said I feel like you guys are sincere and don't fake being someone you're not and that your reactions come across as genuine. Too many channels amp it up and overreact and it comes across has faux. Anyway, I just wanted to say I appreciate the honesty and things like the "First time watching" overlay because you could very easily just pretend like you've never seen it. All the best.
16:04 They only started tracking Voldemorts name during the war. They figure that only true opposers dared speak the name in the first place so it would be a great way track them. It was NOT a thing during the entire series. People just feared him so much they didn't dare say it.
hoping the Oak would get into the book/audiobook (recommend “the leaky cauldron (TLC)”) at this point 😂 Considering how much youve gotten in to the series, i think he would love learning about the secret keeper, the reason why Harry didnt just die in the forest (with benefits of Voldy sharing Harrys blood from the fourth movie/book), department of mysteries etc…. Theres SO much even the deleted scenes left out!
The last scene is actually the only one I’m glad they didn’t include. It wasn’t included in the book, and seems way out of character for Draco. His redemption came when he didn’t give them up at Malfoy Manor. The movies added a lot of details that weren’t in the books, but that would be just too big of a plot twist to add. The thing I like most about Harry Potter characters are that they’re realistic. JK wrote real humans, not movie characters. Draco’s character arc and redemption was believable, and not stretched just for entertainment.
Yeah. At that moment in time, Draco's character is pretty much summed up in the moment after Harry rescues him from the Room of Requirement. If I'm not mistaken Draco runs off and they find him later trying to appease to the Death Eaters saying that he's on their side so they don't hurt him. The trio helps him again, then Ron punches Malfoy and says, “And that's the second time we've saved your life tonight, you two-faced bastard!'" I think we can find a lot of nuance and even sympathy in Draco's character, but in the books he's just so grimy and giving him a full-blown redemption like the wand throwing just feels way too out of place with the character. Not all that realistic, but maybe a bit more later on in life. I'm glad they didn't include it. They touched on enough of Draco's character without it.
The one about the name being taboo makes the scene with Mr Lovegood make more sense. He says Voldemort (oops!) and the death eaters immediately appear. Doesn't explain why in the release version. And Aunt Petunia - such a shame they missed that bit out. I like to think that after the dust settles Harry might have found a way to reconnect with all that's left of his family
According to Rowling, Harry and Dudley do reconnect as adults and spend time together occasionally, their children included; they're on "Christman card exchange" terms lol. You can see hints of this in The Cursed Child and some in-depth character profiles on Pottermore/Wizarding World.
I didn't watch many of your reactions, but the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter ones are really great!! Looking forward to the Fantastic Beasts ones, they are good, too. 👌😊 You reacting as a trio makes great conversations and discussions.
@@BaddMedicine Do Game of Thrones and the Shrek movies if you haven't seen them. Also I'd argue the mudbood thing is closer to Isreal citizenship DNA/genetic tests than anything from the war.
Oak's story about when he was in 4th grade resonates with me so much, and about how even if you weren't a full on bully, many of us have things we regret from when we were kids and maybe we could have been nicer to people. I know I have major regrets about the way I treated some kids in 5th and 6th grade. I was never a full on bully, but I certainly picked on some kids and it makes me sick to my stomach when I think about some of the things I teased kids about (like, specifically, teasing a kid for getting his shoes from Payless, which I'm so very, very ashamed of in my adult years... and Billy Madison is also exactly what I thought of, too, Oak; I tried to friend one guy in particular on Facebook specifically because I wanted to be able to send him a message apologizing for being an asshole when we were kids but, and I don't blame him for this, he did not accept the request). Appreciate the thoughtfulness with which you guys approach all of this stuff, genuinely.
Love watching these reactions!!! I think they left it out because it wasn't in the books....I have the feeling they had big discussions about whether or not to change the ending in such a big way. I only saw this deleted scene recently, and personally I think it might have taken away from Harry/Ron/Hermione/Neville in their own respective big moments. When reading the books, I got the feeling that Draco & his family were showcasing just how challenging it is to break those ingrained lessons. Its a more complicated lesson, but just that small change - walking away, Narcissa essentially saving Harry, those are huge changes. Keep up the great content & comments!! ALSO with noticing Oak's shirt, I highly recommend looking into the Cursed Child (the play), because it's an interesting take.
Thanks for this extra treat! The Petunia scene and the Draco scene wasn't in the book. I believe Draco became a nicer guy, eventually, but I actually like that Rowling didn't give every bad guy an arc. It's refreshingly realistic if we consider it's happening in a magic world.
@@Melanie-jy2nw If I remember it right, which is most uncertain, she left after the others, and maybe she thought she'd say something, but thought better of it. I reckonned she felt uncomfortable with finding herself alone with Harry. After all, he wasn't her Beloved "Neffy Boy".
Rowling actually stated that she never wanted draco to have any kind of redemption arc. She created the character from a memory of her early school days when she got bullied by a guy. So, she really hated draco and wanted him to be hated by fans. But I think that the deleted scene redemption arc is perfect for him and so do most of the fans..
I absolutely love the passion from you guys for this franchise. Seeing the Oak's complete 180 was one of the coolest things I've seen. It's an incredible franchise and I hope someday in the future we get some more high-quality Harry Potter media. Fantastic Beasts sadly isn't doing it for me :(
There are some pretty good fan-film videos out there. My favorite is Severus Snape and the Marauders (a Harry Potter Prequel) by Broad Strokes. I think you'd really enjoy this one. They did another with Grendelwald and Dumbledor in their youth although you may want to wait on that one until you've seen the Fantastic Beast movies. Also check out Sisters of House Black by Kelsey Ellison. About the deleted scenes: we watched the Dursley's start 4 out of the first 6 movies. We developed a bond with them through those films (even if we didn't like them). They were such a big part of Harry's life. To me they were 'main' characters to the story like everyone else we met. Maybe even more so. I would have kept the Dursley scenes in. It would have been a good 'closure' moment for that part of the story. The only other one I wished they kept and expanded on would be Draco passing his wand to Harry. That was Draco's redemption moment. To see him just walk off with his parents...I thought they were cowards (first time viewing that is). Thanks guys! I needed this. 😎👍
I made a girl cry when I was ten years old and twenty-one years later it still bothers me. I want to find her and apologize. Thanks for sharing that story. I’m so glad y’all watched these. I hate that they removed the Aunt Petunia scene!
Thank you for everything you're contributing to the HP community. It's so refreshing to watch and listen to your opinions on something I'd grown up with (I'm that generation that grew up along with HP).
Dear mister The Oak in this journey I adored your view!. From 'do we have to do this' to 'we are going to do these fan theorie stuf I can't hold myselve' vision is sooooo much fun.. Thank you for being open to this.. Waiting for the fantastic beast ones ❤️
Actually, Petunia’s feelings about Harry go back to her childhood. She was incredibly jealous that Lily had powers and was able to go to Hogwarts and she didn’t. She even wrote a letter to Dumbledoor and asked if she could go. I think that he wrote back and apologized that that wasn’t the way that it worked. But ever sense then, she basically shunned her sister.
In the Dungeon scene. They called Finch a squib. Which means he was born to Magical parents but doesn’t have any magic himself. You all should read the books there is so much more in the books. Also Audible has all the audiobooks.
Love that you guys have been so accepting with Harry Potter .. a lot of people judge people like me simply because I love the books and have lived through them!!! Thank you 🙏🏻 One of the things that doesn’t come up at all in the movies but the books (in the Order of the Phoenix and later) is why did Dumbledore decide to let Harry be with the Dursleys - is because of the old magic that protected Harry from Voldemort when Lily died protecting him. Petunia had the same blood as Lily’s so as long as Harry was around Petunia till he is an adult, Voldemort will not be able to touch him. In Order of the Phoenix book, when Harry saved Dudley from Dementors, Petunia thinks he is the cause behind Dudley’s temporary dementia and gets angry enough to let Harry go, but the Dursleys receive a Howler at the moment saying - “Remember” and Petunia backs down decides to let Harry continue to stay with them … so since the beginning Dumbledore had explained the importance of Harry staying with her to Petunia .. we never get to know this until the 5th book which is simply amazing!!
I've got to things to say relating to Oak, I love your journey of watching harry potter and I love that you went off and watched some fan theory's because the community are amazing id recommend super carlin brothers. secondly its so touching the story you told about when you were younger and relating it to Dudley, hopeful it will help some kids out there in a similar situation
I love you guys and I LOVE the discussions. It's what makes us connect through this amazing series. I got the harry potter book for christmas when I was a kid, from my aunt... I was maybe 7 or 8. My mom read the 1st and most of the 2nd to me... and then I couldn't wait for her and took over reading them myself. It's been a part of my life ever since and at 31 I have restarted the series AGAIN. I just love watching people fall in love with this series for ALL it has to offer. As I grew up with the books.... I definitely got different things/lessons out of it at different stages in my life. All the metaphors and representstions of life in this magical series is just incredible. Thank you, thank you for sharing the journey with us! I can't wait for what's next. ❤
I agree with so much of what oak said about Draco, whether you like or dislike him, he could've been such a good character example of growing in a prejudiced or horrible household and being able to overcome it. He never got redemption in the books or movies but he really could've been a good opportunity to show kids growing up in said households. Sadly Jkr didn't take that opportunity when writing the books
It's great to see you all enjoy Harry Potter even after the movie reactions have ended! You never cease to make me smile. A fun fan theory I would suggest looking into is from Film Theory by Mattpat. Specifically the one where he discusses there being more than one "Chosen One" (someone else other than Harry). It's quite interesting and I think you all would enjoy watching it.
Thank you guys so much for going in depth with HP series! I take enormous pleasure in listening to your discussions. I'd love to see any content on this universe from you! (highly recommend audiobooks recorded by Stephen Fry. They are a blast!)
If I'm honest, I could watch you guys do "2nd and 3rd, etc." watches of the whole series again haha - I've watched them so many times it's cool to see others immerse themselves in the world for the first time!
I honestly wish Oak recorded his second watch! The second watch - and even the third - is so much more interesting than the first...... seeing all the clues (Scabbers, Quirrel, Ginny with the diary, etc).
Bottom line, I think that is why Petunia makes sure Harry was allowed to stay on Privet Drive every year. She was jealous that she wasn’t chosen for Hogwarts. She called Lilly a freak because of it, and yet when Dumbledore asked her to allow Harry to live with her and her family, the love she had for her sister, gave her the strength to agree. Yes, they treated him like crap but he was always allowed to return, which kept him safe when he is away from Hogwarts. I think these scenes should have been left in.
I’ve been bingeing your videos over the last 3 days while sick with Covid and you’re officially my new fav react channel! I love how The Oak has become a Potterhead when he was not originally looking forward to the series. 🥰🥰
Book reviews from Oak or everyone would be perfection. In my mind you'll find the books incomparable to the movies especially after the 3rd book. The characterization is 1000 stronger and there's alot left out! The true source and its a must!
It's so funny and cute how Oak turned out to be the biggest fan out of you 3 😁 It just goes to show the depth and emotional impact of the HP story that it made a skeptic like him talk about personal events in his life, discuss the metaphors for racism and other messages, delve into character motivations etc. 👍 The scene with Malfoy throwing the wand, I read that it's JKR who didn't want it in, because it's basically too heroic for Malfoy. I agree with the decision. I like that things remain realistic when it comes to his arc, he's not bad like before but also not a hero. The scene with Dudley should really have been included in I think. But Petunia I don't care. She was very jealous of her sister and she never showed sadness over her death. In the 1st movie she even tells Harry in a brutal way that Lily "got herself blown up" so whatever she says now is too little too late 🤷♀️ I don't remember how that last Dursleys scene plays out in the book. I have started rereading the series as I realized I forgot many details!
I definitely recommend listening to the Dursleys Departing chapter of Hallows. Two members of the Order of the Phoenix escort the Dursleys and are there calling them out for not saying goodbye to Harry. When Dudley talks to Harry, Harry tells them that for Dudley, that was like him saying "I love you". I would have loved for that scene to have had more focus in the film. It would have kept people's minds open to the possibility of Harry potentially finding them again, and even maybe becoming closer with Dudley. There's a great fan fiction out there of Dudley having a daughter who ends up going to Hogwarts, and Harry kind of walking him through what it's like and even reuniting with Petunia. Once again I really love watching your reactions and have been watching them back to back pretty much. Great job🤙
As always seems to happen, I strongly agree with Oak’s takes, especially the one about Draco tossing his wand to Harry before the final confrontation. That should have stayed in both for the heavy reasons Oak gave and for simple continuity. Harry had no wand when Hagrid carried him in, which was confirmed in the previous movie when Hermione apologized for getting his wand broken. Then suddenly he has one. It was jarring enough that it bothered me when I first saw the movie. Where did that wand come from? The transfer of Draco’s wand to Harry was also foreshadowed when the rescued wandmaker tells Harry that this wand used to be Draco’s but “I sense its allegiance has changed” because Harry had disarmed Draco. We don’t see that wand given back to Draco, but it must have been. He had been using his mother’s wand in the meantime, but that one has no allegiance to either Draco or Harry. There is also another scene of redemption for Draco in the previous movie. When the Death Eaters caught Harry when he was disguised and looked disfigured, Bellatrix suspected his identity and demanded that Draco confirm it was Harry. Draco knew who it was, but he bravely stood his ground. He saved Harry’s life by refusing to betray him. In a later scene, Harry recalls this and asks Draco why he didn’t betray him. Maybe the showrunners thought this was enough redemption for Draco. If so, I strongly disagree. The passing of the wand SHOULD have been shot clearly and included. It’s pivotal for multiple reasons and would have taken a minute or less. Oak did us all a favor by immersing himself in the scenes and discussions before making this video. His insights were pure gold.
Watching this a year later, after Oak has already watch a ton of "teen" movies, makes me think this is when his mind opened up to enjoy those types of movies. I am here for it too.
Awesome to see Draco do that for Harry Potter! Why wasn’t that kept in? Which scenes do you think should’ve made the cut?
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Well personally I'm glad they didn't keep it, because it wasn't in the books. Draco never explicitely did the right thing and I think that's the point of his character: he was lost and scared and he was mostly scared for his life. So doing that in front Voldemort and the Death Eaters is completely out of character and I think it is the reason why JK. Rowling never made him explicitely stand up for the good side.
So I think it is the only deleted scene that I am glad it didn't make it in the movie, that would have ruined the essence of the character for me (not to the extend of what they did to Ginny's character though)
They didn't put it cause it made no sense as harry disarmed Draco in the Malfoy manor and Draco lost his mother's wand at the room of requirements and Lucius already gave his wand to voldemort. By this point Malfoy family was wandless and Draco giving him a wand made no sense, as none of them had any wands to give
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@@BaddMedicine I came to comments just to request, respectfully, but firmly for the Official tests to be filmed. I’ll be so happy to see it!!!!
Another climax edit was that in the books Neville immediately kills the snake when he pulls the sword out of the hat. And the way Voldemort dies is that, Harry used a disarming spell while Voldemort used a killing curse. So Harry having the Elder Wand, it overpowered Voldemort's and so the Disarming spell won the duel, and in the process of Voldemort's wand flipping from Voldemort's hand to Harry's, the killing curse hit Voldemort and he died.
If you notice in the movie deathly hallows part 2, when Draco is called to the other side by Voldemort, he doesn’t go. When his father calls him over, he still doesn’t go. But when his mother holds out her hand and he looks at her, he knows he can’t leave her, no matter what that means for him. Narcissa is the one person in his family who didn’t abuse him, who loved him and put him over anything. And Draco’s love for his mom outweighed anything in his mind, even doing the right thing. THATs why they didn’t keep that scene in. Because Draco as a character just wouldn’t be able to look at his moms face and ignore her.
Yes Draco ONLY went over because of his mother. He did not go over to Voldermort. He want to Narcissa.
Also he probably thought that if he didn't go over Voldemort would just kill his parents on the spot.
Exactly. He didn't want anything to happen to his mother nor leave her side. Draco was brainwashed by his father but he understood love and family from his mother. His mother is his guiding light.
Yet Voldemort is the only person who hugs him.
@@denizkenger52 That actually only happened in one take, So the look on Tom Felton face was the actors actual shock to the hug. so they kept it in. It's not canon though.
The Oak's character development is both hilarious and heartwarming :')
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My favorite character arc in the series for sure
Also, in the books Petunia was very jealous of Lily for being a witch. She wrote several times to Dumbledore begging him for her to go to Hogwarts. At one point she gave up and turned it to Lily being a freak. 😔💔
If I remember correctly Petunia was mostly upset she had to leave her house.
**in the books
it still doesn’t redeem her in anyways abusing a child for many years cause you were jealous of the child’s mother and because you were grieving isnt an excuse the Dudley’s never did anything to makeup for that abuse and they never really can make up for it.
@@thatrandomaccount171 it might redeem her if you consider that harry is a horcrux. We saw Ron's reaction from wearing one for a little while. The Dudley's being in close proximity to Harry for 11 years caused them the be horrible to him without realizing or knowing why.
interesting take @@candicemonique5927
I love how The Oak is leading the discussion given that he was the least interested when the series began.
To add a tiny bit more context:
-- Dudley saying he didn't think Harry was a waste of space: in the book, the scene plays out almost exactly the same way, except he also says "you saved my life." (from the dementors). It's also revealed by JKR on her Pottermore website, that Dudley and Harry maintained a somewhat civil relationship after the Battle of Hogwarts, and that they kept in touch and got together for holidays so that each others' kids could be in each others' lives.
-- Putting a taboo on Voldemort's name (a spell that can locate people when saying certain keyword(s)) was a bit more expanded on in the books, from the very first book, Hagrid describes how scared people are to say the name because of how traumatic everyone's experiences of the first war were, so even after his defeat in Godric's Hollow after trying to kill Harry, people were still afraid to say the name. Ron remarks that the only people who weren't afraid to say the name were people that were opposed to Voldemort enough to actually fight him (like Dumbledore, and the Order of the Phoenix), so they put the taboo on the name itself to track down those people.
--"Let us go, you filthy Squib!" ... a 'squib' is the opposite of a muggleborn witch/wizard (like Hermione), in that they are a non-magical person from a magical family. Mr Filch has grown up in the magical world, but has no magical powers.
I just love what you guys take from this series. Especially Oak. He takes everything and turns it into a good message.
Much appreciated 🤙
YES! WE WANT MOOORREEE POTTER! It’s funny how Quinn and Answer have a hard time to remember most of the character’s names, which is totally understandable but Oak knows all of them hahaha we have a huge HP fan here specially by the fact that he’s not a bookworm but found a way to “read” the books, that’s what we call a pureblood guys
Haha.. you all have created a HP monster in the Oak! It's great to see! More Potter on the way! 😁😁🤙🤙
Omg the Oak is such a potterhead now, I could cry. It really made this whole thing so much more meaningful. Seeing the transformation on camera. So glad, this isn't the end of HP journey with you guys, leaving suggestions in a different comment because it'll get too long
Thank you and more to come😁🤙
I just love that Oak is such a potter stan now 😂❤
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@@Gnossiene369 fan.
There's hope for Dudley.
@@Gnossiene369 means fan. It originates from an Eminem song called Stan where he had a fan obsess for him. Fans name was Stan which is now used for describing die hard fan.
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Yes, when Luna's dad said Voldemort, at his home, after Hermione read the story of the three brothers, that's when all the death eaters/snachers came and took them to Malfoy manor. "He who must not be named". Also the books explaine every detail, they are so good and so much missing content.
It's like the wizarding world version of tagging someone online, lol
Heyo, just checking in to say that in that one deleted scene, in which Filch locked the slytherins in the dungeon she called him a squib, not squid. Squib are essentially the opposite of muggleborns, both parents are magical and they themselves have no magical powers. Filch is one of them as Harry finds out during his first year when he was in Filches office and saw a letter from a course for Squibs. Highly recommend the Books/Audiobooks, so many characters get more fleshed out, Petunia for example. When Harry arrives with Dudley she actually knows what a Dementor is, because she heard of it before and many many many other moments which make the Dursleys and basically all other characters more 3D and even adds some nice characters like Peeves the Poltergeist, much more Dobby, who temporarily worked at Hogwarts, Hermionie who started an organization to help Houseelves and so on.
She was hiding behind the tree and spying on Snapey Poo telling Lily about the magical world and the trouble they get into, about the wizard prison and the guards that are called Dementors.
I don’t believe that the words “nice” and “Peeves” should be used in the same sentence. He was a nasty little s.o.b. Lol
@@MsAppassionata he trapped Mrs Norris in the armours and sang rude Christmas carols.
Peeves is one of my favourite characters in the book. Disappointed he was never in the films
@@couch.patati-patata I like the rude Christmas carols, though.
I think the deleated scene with Dudley was way more impactful than any other one. I actually think that Petunia scene highlighted just how selfish she truly was. She knew she lost her sister, whom she was jealous of. And with that knowledge, decided to mistreat this poor baby with no parents. When it all comes down to it, the only thing she reveals is her own pain. Not compassion or regret to her nephew. Just that she hurt
Plus it was a great part of the book too!
exactly the aunt and uncle have done nothing to make up for the abuse they put harry through and no one CAN do anything to make up for abuse once it’s done u cant undo it and just cause they went through something doesnt make it right
I think that’s ok. We don’t have to figure people. Acts of misbehavior are symptoms of unmet needs or fear. I don’t think they were trying to redeem the characters tho
She's scared and angry. She likely blames Harry for the death of her sister. Which, he sort of is. I mean, it was really a domino effect of people doing things. But, Voldemort is a scary, magical lizard man. Harry lives in her very house. Is it right for her to hate him? Of course not. But she is a person with feelings that make sense. It is hard to say how genuine Petunia is. She was jealous of Lily and treated her badly. But it may be that she really loved her a great deal but simply struggled with her feelings. Which would make her comment to Harry more compassionate than anything. She never let him in at all before. Something is more than nothing.
@@bongchoof “theyre also a person with feelings” looses all credibility when the petunia herself doesnt see harry as a person with feelings lmaoo dont be out here tryna justify abuse
The Oak was GREAT in this video. How he opened up about his past, talked about his father, and how he really stressed the importance/seriousness of racism and also it's parallels in Harry Potter. I admit, I often don't stick around for people's commentary after watch-through's if it's too long, but you guys really held my attention for over 20 minutes. Really love your guys' channel.
Late to the game, but absolutely this. That’s why I hate seeing death eater tattoos on people. I mean they have to know what that symbolizes other than them thinking it looks cool. I guess it’s much more acceptable and low key than a swastika tattoo 😒
I always thought Vernon and especially Petunia knew what the magical world was capable of, so they tried to deny and crush down anything magical to protect their own family, and even Harry himself. They didn't want him to bring magical attention to them and their family. They did it in the most gross manner, but I think they thought it would save them all in the long run.
Petunia's hate of all things magical really comes out of jealously of the fact that her younger sister was magic and she was not. She knew a lot about the magical world. She was even in contact with Dumbledore a couple of times. She and Vernon met James Potter and Vernon was a condescending asshole
She even tired to get Dumbledore to let her go to Hogwarts but he said no because she was not a witch. She was jealous that her sister Was a witch and she was not
Their biggest fear was that people would find out they were connected to the magical world, not for their physical safety but for what it would do to their reputation. They were proud to say that they were "perfectly normal people, thank you very much". They were very concerned with what their neighbors thought of them.
You guys did my favorite HP reactions by far!! I think I might even rewatch them just to see The Oak fall in love with the HP universe all over again ☺☺
Thank you. It's funny watching the first 2 and seeing him now.
Watching The Oak fall in love with harry potter series is the BEST takeaway from these reactions. 💗
I wish I had seen them as they were doing them, but it's still amazing to see the change.
A theory I have heard is that Harry being a horcrux caused the Dursley's to become more toxic than they were originally. Like the others, people being around them for large amounts of time changes who they were. Idk if it's ever been confirmed but it was something that made an impact to my view of them.
Love your reactions, this journey was so much fun with you 3 😁
It has been debunked. Harry was not an intentional horcrux and not made with dark magic
That would make a lot of sense, but they still doted on Dudley while being mean to Harry. You'd think they would be mean to Dudley too.
Kudos to the oak for opening up on past mistakes, no single person is perfect ❤
The Slytherins that were locked in the dungeon by Filtch called him a "filthy Squib", not squid. A Squib is a person that was born into a Wizarding family but is unable to do magic. Squibs are born with no magical abilities even though their biological parents are wizards. In Chamber of Secrets Harry, Ron and Hermione found out that Filtch is a Squib.
Dungeons is also where the common room is. great comment ♥
We learn about Filtch's lack of magical ability in the second book, when Harry saw a letter from Quickspell, a correspondence course in magic, on Filtch's desk. We see the letter briefly in the second movie, but it never elaborates on it.
Jk Rowling said that Dudley's attitude changed after being attacked by the dementor in the Order of Fenix, Because the Dementor shows him the worst part o himself.
Those first two scenes kill me. Of course they were set up to be hated but humanizing them a bit was amazing. I loved reading those scenes and was devastated they weren't in the film
They really should've been
Seeing Mr. Oak talk so passionately about this makes me so proud, I'm so glad you guys watched the series and that you liked it. And I look forward to seeing more content from you, not only Harry Potter.
When Filch was in the dungeons with the Slytherins, the girl (Pansy Parkinson) yelled "squib" not squid.
A squib is a person who's parents are both magical but have no powers themselves! Essentially the opposite of a muggleborn.
I've always really loved the more subtle approach the final cut of the movie had with Draco's character. It walks the line of feeling sympathy for him without giving him a full fledged redemption arch, which I feel would have been a bit out of character for him. So much of his arch was about how much fear and trepidation he was feeling about his family and the things he was being asked to do. He became a really sympathetic character to me in that sense, but he also never struck me as someone very brave at all. I might be a bit more influenced by the book versions in my head though. It's hard to separate sometimes. haha
At one point, I kinda thought that Draco may have paralleled RAB a bit during HBP. Once we got into TDH, I could picture Regulus trying to hide how he was changing long enough to try to defeat Riddle, but didn't make it as far as he intended. That must have felt so harrowing for Regulus, but he ended up having an arc much closer to Snape than Draco. That said, I could see where Snape might see something relatable in Draco during those last couple of years. I think that was demonstrated in the opening TDH scene when Riddle murdered Burbage. We were shown both Snape & Draco's faces. I figured what Snape was hiding on the inside was shown on Draco's face.
@@agresticumbraLove this perspective.
The scenes with Dudley and Petunia were actually in the books, and written very well. I personally would've loved to have had those scenes in the movies. Draco's action of throwing the wand to Harry however, was not in the books, and I think JKR opposed to the scene because of that same fact. I'm actually glad it wasn't included in the movies as it gives a very fleshed out redemption arc for Draco at the battle, which never happened. Harry was presumed dead by Voldy and friends, so they had Hagrid carry his lifeless form with his wand (formerly Draco's) in hand. There waa no wand tossing needed in the first place. It would've given Draco credit for something he didn't do in the most important part of the war. In all honesty, Narcissa played a bigger role in the win, by lying to Voldemort about Harry being dead - and even that she did only so she could get to Draco in the castle. Draco at that time didn't really turn sides, mostly just feared for his and his mother's life. Basically, Draco did all those what could be "redeeming" actions (like not identifying Harry in the Manor) out of fear and fear alone, not with any intent to do the right thing. I believe JKR wanted to emphasize that not all baddies deserve an immediate redemption. I guess it was slightly implied that he had second thoughts, especially regarding his and his mom's safety, but that was all it was. Not to be harsh or anything, but JKR once mentioned that Draco represented cowardice, and that people should not romanticize him. His character development happened a bit later in his life, and happened over time - especially once him and his mom was rid of Lucius (as written in HP and the Cursed Child play).
While "not all baddies deserve redemption" is a fair view to have, I feel JKR has personal grudges that she wishes to keep in the story. And it shows in things like locking up the entire slytherin house in the dungeons, or not allowing Draco's redemption arc, or the absence of any redeeming/humanizing qualities to Umbridge (even Voldy gets humanized), etc. It almost feels like she has associated the characters with people in her own life that she has not forgiven.
@@PristinePerceptions of course! It is understandable that she's applied a lot of things in her life to her written work, and there's bound to be some bias. I personally find the Slytherins being locked in the Dungeons to be absurd as well (which, to be fair, only happened in the movie and didn't exist in the books). I really appreciate how Umbridge was characterized, though, as I do think she represents an idea that plenty of characters aside from the main villain can represent a worse evil - especially with her as she unfortunately is a very realistic portrayal. I also appreciate Draco's character's portrayal because although he didn't have a clear cut redemption arc in the book, he does represent a person who has grown up in the wrong environment, and is humanized in a way that he feels and shows abject fear in the face of an impossible task at such a young age, and prioritizes himself and his mother despite it all. I think these things are redemption enough for his character, despite how vague they may be..
@@PristinePerceptions Slytherins were not locked up or sent in the dungeons.
@@juib1738 This is true, it only happens in the movies, which why I found it absurd why the screenwriters made that choice 😅 I believe all the students were evacuated, and only those of age who wanted to fight could remain.
The scene with Petunia is NOT in the books. In the book she finds herself in a room alone with Harry, seems momentarily startled to realize it's just them. She looks at him, seems as if she might speak, but decides otherwise and leaves the room.
In the book, it was mentioned that Aunt Petunia was jealous of her sister going to Hogwarts. She even wrote to Prof Dumbledore if she can go to Hogwarts too. It didn't help that their neighbour Professor Snape got to go to Hogwarts too like Lily so she felt left out. SQUIB (not squid)is a non magical person born to a witch or a wizard parent like Mr Filch and Harry's neighbour. They didn't include that scene of Malfoy handing Harry a wand because that never happened in the book. Malfoy's redemption happened when he lied to his parents and aunt and said that the boy that Fenrir(werewolf)captured with the swollen face was not Harry.
I could listen to your comments about this world for hours. So entertaining and interesting to hear your opinions and insights. Thank you for the comments on discrimination and your direct candour. Can't wait for hunger games next! 😁
Much appreciated and glad you enjoyed! 🤙
Have they said they are going to do the Hunger Games? That would be awesome!
@@pamelahofman1785 yes! I think its on their Patreon atm but hope it'll be on YT after 😊🤞🏼
Hearing the Oak mention all the Potter content he took in and name dropping Movie Flame made me think "One of us! One of us!" Lol this is just adorable and I love this journey so much. I rock with people who say they might rewatch to see the love develop all over again. Super Carlin Brothers' quizzes are some of my favorite HP content now, they are so funny and competitive
Petunia lost Lily long before Lily was killed as well. In a way, magic took Lily away from her when they were children; she even tried being accepted to Hogwarts and wrote a letter to Dumbledore but he could not allow it. Her hurt and resentment separated her from her sister until it was too late. It seems Harry represented the thing that broke up their family and made her feel inferior, and she couldn’t get past it. Maybe in her mind, mistreating Harry and favoring Dudley was a way to get back at the magic world.
Little info... When flich was putting Slytherins in dungeon. A girl pansy Parkinson yelled Squib. I guess you called it a squid. It's squib. It's kind of a person who has wizard parents but you don't have magical ability. It's kinda the opposite of muggle-born.
It’s SO nice to see how much the oak ended up loving the franchise!
When/if you read the books, there's more about Petunia's grudge towards Lily. (book 7)
I don't wanna spoil it.
The Oak is now a Professor in Wizarding History!
And yes that Draco arc is a big loss in the plot.. A huge lesson that should never be not mentioned.. Also, just like Severus, imagine that he'd actually be in the history of the Battle of Hogwarts as one of the biggest hero.. and would be a big inspiration for kids (Slytherin or not) who are raised the same. 💔
How about this: Read the books and have discussions of, let's say, 5 chapters at a time. It's a tale of two boys, Potter and Longbottom. I bet you didn't catch that in the movies. Longbottom is much more important than the movies let on. I would really like to see your opinion of which is best, movies or books.
BOOKS all the way.
Bruh, that’s not even a question. Ofc the books are best!
In the book Harry already had his wand under his shirt when Hagrid was carrying him and after the battle Harry used the Elder wand to fix his original wand that was broken in Godric’s Hollow because the Elder wand is the strongest wand and can basically do anything including fixing wands that are far beyond repair
In the books Aunt Petunia has many scenes where she had a lot of good in her. Unlike Uncle Vernon, Petunia knows a lot about the wizarding world, because as a child she was obsessed about going to Hogwarts. She creates hate towards her sister, who was a witch and also hated the whole wizarding world became she wasn't a witch like her sister and so was rejected an admission to Hogwarts.
Each time Vernon tries to remove Harry from his house, Petunia stops Vernon, because she knows very well that the safest place for Harry is that house, because she too provides Harry with the same protection that Lilly gave HarryHarry before she died.
I like the context that Harry wanted to protect the only family he had left. Even though they were nice and even petunia said a snitty comment as they left, he still wanted to protect them. Shows how good hearted he truly is.
Harry is not only the chosen one but he's also a horcrux. Being in close proximity to him for 11 years changed their mood towards him. Just like when ron eas wearing it, it changed his mood.
That has been debunked by JK herself. He wasn’t made with dark magic
This whole series has been amazing and hands down my favorite Harry Potter reaction videos. After watching them all on RUclips I HAD to watch the full versions on your patreon. I love your authenticity and it has been joy to see how obsessed with Harry Potter you all have become (especially The Oak!). Your reactions made me feel like I was watching the movies for the first time. I can tell that you all are upstanding guys aka the best selection of people to provide commentary on these movies as you really understand the messages they are trying to convey. Can’t wait to watch more of your videos!
I agree. They actually enjoy the movies and understand the messages 🥰🥰
Watching you guys go on the Potter journey has been such a pleasure. Particularly watching The Oak warm up to the movies as they went along and not seeing them so much as kids movies. Another world I hope you guys get into soon (and I’m sure many would like to see your reaction to this as well) is Avatar the Last Airbender. Arguably one of the greatest animated series of all time. I’ve seen it described as “a love letter to humanity”. Just something to consider 🙂👍
Thank you and thanks for watching. We appreciate it 🤙 definitely will give that consideration 🤘
Omg I’m 3 months late with this but I just started watching your reactions and I would LOVE IT if you guys did Avatar The last air bender! To me that is the only perfect show with the most perfect ending. And the lessons and character arcs are the absolute best. It took my boyfriend a minute to get into it because it technically is a kids show and it can be very goofy but it is SO deep and important. I think you guys would really enjoy going on that beautiful journey with Aang ❤️
I found this channel when looking for HP reactions. I enjoyed watching them all. I especially love the ongoing conversations about the world & how you all really joined the fandom. I would love to see more discussion of the HP world; especially after you've explored more of the background. Even more, I'd love to hear your thoughts after reading/listening to the book series that started the whole amazing phenomena.
Thank you and glad you are enjoying! Oak would like to review his journey with the books. That will probably happen at some point.
Draco is the first young wizard Harry meets in the books, meets him on diagon ally before going to Hogwarts, he definitely deserved a solid arc and he kinda got short changed in the movies.
The way you guys talk about shows or movies and the way in which you break stuff down and actually pay attention to the scenes and understand the gravity of some of the situations characters are in is absolutely amazing! Like y’all find the nuance to situations and tie it to real life experiences and truly appreciate it for what it is! Not to mention that y’all are very honest and open about struggles and even things that you’ve done in the past and how you’ve grown since has given me an insurmountable amount of respect for all of you!!! Truly thank you because y’all may not see it but you help lots of people as well and there’s always something to learn!
Seeing some behind the scenes stuff would be great too. They’re excellent
Hey Guys, I'm from Brazil and I have to say, I just love your reactions. Thank you❤️❤️❤️
Hello from the states! Thank you, Isabela! We appreciate it and thanks for the support😁🤙🙏
tamo junto
me too
Abraços Isabela!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Me too ❤️
Hey guys..I've watched all your reactions on hp. You guys are awesome
Hey Danny! Thank you! We appreciate that! 🤘
Definitely waiting for the full round table on Potter! Hope that's still coming. Absolutely thrilled to see this video uploaded this morning - love your Potter content! I adore the Dudley scene.
I grew up reading, waiting, watching HP. I even went to a premier here in Mexico (yes hello from 🇲🇽) 8.5 months pregnant. Now that my kids are old enough I have made potter heads 😁
But as Oak there are so many lessons that how could I miss the chance?
PS. Love your reactions and it is awesome to see 3 grown men become potter heads 🤘
Congrats to the soon to be newborn! I'm sure your kids will enjoy HP 😁
@@BaddMedicine that was in 2005 sheb is now 16 years old 😂😂😂
My best friend was 8 months when we went to the 6th midnight premiere. We ended up leaving a tinny bit before the credits so she could get out of the packed theater easily. The boy will be 13 next month.
I felt like his uncle and Dudley really mirrored Lucius and Draco Malfoy. The Dursleys abused Harry and spoiled Dudley but demanded Dudley treat Harry badly as well. It was abusive for Dudley In a Different way. Lucious abused Draco non stop but gave him everything, he also made Draco feel like it was his place to go after Harry and mudbloods etc. Draco could never leave his family because his mother was the only one who protected and showed him love , he was surrounded by a family of psychopaths. (FYI - Dracos mom when bent over Harry to see if he is dead asks Harry if Draco’s alive? I assume Harry said yes. I think she felt she owed Harry and that is why she to.d Voldemort Harry was Dead. That was a huge part) ALSO I Think Harry was struck when he saw his father bullying Snapes memory. I WAS SO GLAD HE GOT TO KNOW SNAPE THROUGH THE PENSIVE.
The Oak (Begining HP Journey): yeah... idk if I'm gonna be into these movies guys. Just being honest, I don't think it's my thing..
The Oak (Now): so did you see that? Let me explain- I've been consuming constant HP info and learning from my new online bffs in the Potter Fandom bc I crave more Potter. "I wouldnt have minded 16 HP movies." When can we watch Fantastic Beasts? I'm so ready!
Edit: I'm so glad you love it 💜 as soon as you vocalize your doubt, I thought "He doesn't know what he's in for, just wait and see buddy"
Double Edit: If you want more Potter content, there's entire documentaries about how they created the creatures, set designs, stunts (with clips of the actors laughing while suspended by wires etc) and interviews with the author discussing the movies and how she came up with quidditch and the dementors etc. So, aside from fan theories, if you want more from the actual original source + the actors, I would look up those docu's
Yeah the Dudley moment should have been in it for sure. Considering what we know about dementors via the book and the movie, you remember what the dementors do-suck out your happiness and hope; you relive your worst moments until they suck you dry (pause).
I like that in the Order of the Phoenix as Harry tells his aunt and uncle what happened, he sees Dudley different. Dudley was such a dick to him so it’s like ‘what kind of negativity/struggles could he ever have experienced? Who are you?’ I wish that thought of Harry was conveyed in some way whether in what we saw or by adding this scene.
The series may be over but their journey into the world of Harry Potter is just beginning :) I'm so glad you guys are really diving into this even after the final movie. I could honestly listen to you guys wax lyrical about any subject. Especially how passionate The Oak now is about all this. I'm so glad I found your channel when you started Sorcerer's Stone.
The switch Oak has made from Sorcerer's Stone to now in his Potter fan-ship is one of the most beautiful things to see haha
I would love to see you guys do the Pottermore sorting! It would be so much fun to see which house you’d all be sorted into, and your patronus, wand, etc. This has been such a fun journey to be able to witness. You’re all fully fledged Potterheads now and we’re so proud🥺⚡️
I appreciate the depth and realism that you talk about.
Squib is a magicless wizard-born
Just in case if you didn't know already.
Why is this so great and exactly what I needed??? 😂💕
Haha it's Potter! 🪄
I dont remember Draco doing this in the books? Perhaps time to read them again. The films changed alot. The battle between Harry and Voldy is in the big hall in the book, and everyone can hear and understand how Harry owns the elder wand. I felt the movies did this wrong. Voldy in the book just fall dead like a ragdoll, and that is more final than turning to ash, away from everyone. In my humble oppinion
That's my biggest gripe with this movie. Also,how they completely left out the house elves in battle.
Yes! The whole point of Moldy Voldy’s death in the books was he died just like any other man. Nothing special about it. So much more impactful.
And I will FOREVER be mad that The Charge of the House-Elves was left out, as was Kreacher’s whole freaking character arc!
@@ediblemongoose EXACTLY! I tell people this who haven't read the books all the time. They completely left out Kreacher's character arc! And the totality of Snape's redemption. I wanted EVERYONE to hear it from Harry's own mouth. I remember leaving the movies pissed off about that.
@@VeganQuiche Yes, after the 4th movie (and even after the third when they didn't explain who the marauders were), I always left the theater pissed off. I didn't even see the last two movies in theaters. I thought I was a bad Harry Potter fan for only liking one or two movies. Watching it through the eyes of this channel made me like them more. I wish Warner Brothers would update the CG from some earlier movies, add the deleted scenes, and re-release them.
That’s because Draco didn’t do that in the book Harry had Draco’s wand and had gone under his invisibility cloak because all hell had broken loose when Voldemort placed the sorting hat over Neville’s head and set it on fire along with Neville. I was a bit miffed at the movies for not including Harry’s explanation of how the wand was not working and how none of the spells Voldemort was preforming on the people Harry protected were lasting or binding. Because Harry having gone to the woods to die at the hands of Voldemort to protect the people that he loved at Hogwarts, that act of love had effectively created the same Magical shield his mother had created for Harry when she died. That Voldemort fell for that action twice showed that he had learned nothing about love and how it’s a magic greater than any other.
I can't lie, you three are quickly becoming my favourite reacts channel and I kinda hate myself for saying I like react channels. That being said I feel like you guys are sincere and don't fake being someone you're not and that your reactions come across as genuine. Too many channels amp it up and overreact and it comes across has faux. Anyway, I just wanted to say I appreciate the honesty and things like the "First time watching" overlay because you could very easily just pretend like you've never seen it. All the best.
25:20 I am so happy you caught what was happening in that scene I’m honestly furious that they cut this out
16:04 They only started tracking Voldemorts name during the war. They figure that only true opposers dared speak the name in the first place so it would be a great way track them.
It was NOT a thing during the entire series. People just feared him so much they didn't dare say it.
Glad you decided to watch these. I still wish the scene with Petunia and Dudley was kept in at least. It just makes sense lol. 💕
Agreed!
Congrats to 40K 🥳, happy I found your channel!!
Thank you Jojo! We appreciate the support! Here to 50k! :)
hoping the Oak would get into the book/audiobook (recommend “the leaky cauldron (TLC)”) at this point 😂 Considering how much youve gotten in to the series, i think he would love learning about the secret keeper, the reason why Harry didnt just die in the forest (with benefits of Voldy sharing Harrys blood from the fourth movie/book), department of mysteries etc…. Theres SO much even the deleted scenes left out!
I believe Oak is on the 2nd book currently 😁🤘
The last scene is actually the only one I’m glad they didn’t include. It wasn’t included in the book, and seems way out of character for Draco. His redemption came when he didn’t give them up at Malfoy Manor. The movies added a lot of details that weren’t in the books, but that would be just too big of a plot twist to add.
The thing I like most about Harry Potter characters are that they’re realistic. JK wrote real humans, not movie characters. Draco’s character arc and redemption was believable, and not stretched just for entertainment.
Yeah. At that moment in time, Draco's character is pretty much summed up in the moment after Harry rescues him from the Room of Requirement. If I'm not mistaken Draco runs off and they find him later trying to appease to the Death Eaters saying that he's on their side so they don't hurt him. The trio helps him again, then Ron punches Malfoy and says, “And that's the second time we've saved your life tonight, you two-faced bastard!'"
I think we can find a lot of nuance and even sympathy in Draco's character, but in the books he's just so grimy and giving him a full-blown redemption like the wand throwing just feels way too out of place with the character. Not all that realistic, but maybe a bit more later on in life. I'm glad they didn't include it. They touched on enough of Draco's character without it.
The one about the name being taboo makes the scene with Mr Lovegood make more sense. He says Voldemort (oops!) and the death eaters immediately appear. Doesn't explain why in the release version. And Aunt Petunia - such a shame they missed that bit out. I like to think that after the dust settles Harry might have found a way to reconnect with all that's left of his family
According to Rowling, Harry and Dudley do reconnect as adults and spend time together occasionally, their children included; they're on "Christman card exchange" terms lol. You can see hints of this in The Cursed Child and some in-depth character profiles on Pottermore/Wizarding World.
Wow, mind blown. I wish I saw the last deleted scene better as I thought I saw all of them. That was new to me.
I didn't watch many of your reactions, but the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter ones are really great!! Looking forward to the Fantastic Beasts ones, they are good, too. 👌😊
You reacting as a trio makes great conversations and discussions.
Much appreciated 🤙 thank you!
@@BaddMedicine Do Game of Thrones and the Shrek movies if you haven't seen them. Also I'd argue the mudbood thing is closer to Isreal citizenship DNA/genetic tests than anything from the war.
Oak's story about when he was in 4th grade resonates with me so much, and about how even if you weren't a full on bully, many of us have things we regret from when we were kids and maybe we could have been nicer to people. I know I have major regrets about the way I treated some kids in 5th and 6th grade. I was never a full on bully, but I certainly picked on some kids and it makes me sick to my stomach when I think about some of the things I teased kids about (like, specifically, teasing a kid for getting his shoes from Payless, which I'm so very, very ashamed of in my adult years... and Billy Madison is also exactly what I thought of, too, Oak; I tried to friend one guy in particular on Facebook specifically because I wanted to be able to send him a message apologizing for being an asshole when we were kids but, and I don't blame him for this, he did not accept the request). Appreciate the thoughtfulness with which you guys approach all of this stuff, genuinely.
You could react to the behind the scenes of all the Harry Potter movies. It would be nice!
Love watching these reactions!!! I think they left it out because it wasn't in the books....I have the feeling they had big discussions about whether or not to change the ending in such a big way. I only saw this deleted scene recently, and personally I think it might have taken away from Harry/Ron/Hermione/Neville in their own respective big moments. When reading the books, I got the feeling that Draco & his family were showcasing just how challenging it is to break those ingrained lessons. Its a more complicated lesson, but just that small change - walking away, Narcissa essentially saving Harry, those are huge changes. Keep up the great content & comments!! ALSO with noticing Oak's shirt, I highly recommend looking into the Cursed Child (the play), because it's an interesting take.
Great points here and thank you for the kind words. We appreciate it 🤙
Thanks for this extra treat!
The Petunia scene and the Draco scene wasn't in the book. I believe Draco became a nicer guy, eventually, but I actually like that Rowling didn't give every bad guy an arc. It's refreshingly realistic if we consider it's happening in a magic world.
I’m pretty sure something similar happened with petunia in the book
@@Melanie-jy2nw If I remember it right, which is most uncertain, she left after the others, and maybe she thought she'd say something, but thought better of it. I reckonned she felt uncomfortable with finding herself alone with Harry.
After all, he wasn't her Beloved "Neffy Boy".
Rowling actually stated that she never wanted draco to have any kind of redemption arc. She created the character from a memory of her early school days when she got bullied by a guy. So, she really hated draco and wanted him to be hated by fans.
But I think that the deleted scene redemption arc is perfect for him and so do most of the fans..
I absolutely love the passion from you guys for this franchise. Seeing the Oak's complete 180 was one of the coolest things I've seen. It's an incredible franchise and I hope someday in the future we get some more high-quality Harry Potter media. Fantastic Beasts sadly isn't doing it for me :(
There are some pretty good fan-film videos out there. My favorite is Severus Snape and the Marauders (a Harry Potter Prequel) by Broad Strokes. I think you'd really enjoy this one. They did another with Grendelwald and Dumbledor in their youth although you may want to wait on that one until you've seen the Fantastic Beast movies. Also check out Sisters of House Black by Kelsey Ellison. About the deleted scenes: we watched the Dursley's start 4 out of the first 6 movies. We developed a bond with them through those films (even if we didn't like them). They were such a big part of Harry's life. To me they were 'main' characters to the story like everyone else we met. Maybe even more so. I would have kept the Dursley scenes in. It would have been a good 'closure' moment for that part of the story. The only other one I wished they kept and expanded on would be Draco passing his wand to Harry. That was Draco's redemption moment. To see him just walk off with his parents...I thought they were cowards (first time viewing that is). Thanks guys! I needed this. 😎👍
I made a girl cry when I was ten years old and twenty-one years later it still bothers me. I want to find her and apologize. Thanks for sharing that story.
I’m so glad y’all watched these. I hate that they removed the Aunt Petunia scene!
Thank you for everything you're contributing to the HP community. It's so refreshing to watch and listen to your opinions on something I'd grown up with (I'm that generation that grew up along with HP).
Dear mister The Oak in this journey I adored your view!. From 'do we have to do this' to 'we are going to do these fan theorie stuf I can't hold myselve' vision is sooooo much fun.. Thank you for being open to this.. Waiting for the fantastic beast ones ❤️
Thank you for sticking around! Glad we did this journey!
Actually, Petunia’s feelings about Harry go back to her childhood. She was incredibly jealous that Lily had powers and was able to go to Hogwarts and she didn’t. She even wrote a letter to Dumbledoor and asked if she could go. I think that he wrote back and apologized that that wasn’t the way that it worked. But ever sense then, she basically shunned her sister.
In the Dungeon scene. They called Finch a squib. Which means he was born to Magical parents but doesn’t have any magic himself.
You all should read the books there is so much more in the books.
Also Audible has all the audiobooks.
I believe Oak is on the 2nd audiobook
Love that you guys have been so accepting with Harry Potter .. a lot of people judge people like me simply because I love the books and have lived through them!!! Thank you 🙏🏻
One of the things that doesn’t come up at all in the movies but the books (in the Order of the Phoenix and later) is why did Dumbledore decide to let Harry be with the Dursleys - is because of the old magic that protected Harry from Voldemort when Lily died protecting him. Petunia had the same blood as Lily’s so as long as Harry was around Petunia till he is an adult, Voldemort will not be able to touch him.
In Order of the Phoenix book, when Harry saved Dudley from Dementors, Petunia thinks he is the cause behind Dudley’s temporary dementia and gets angry enough to let Harry go, but the Dursleys receive a Howler at the moment saying - “Remember” and Petunia backs down decides to let Harry continue to stay with them … so since the beginning Dumbledore had explained the importance of Harry staying with her to Petunia .. we never get to know this until the 5th book which is simply amazing!!
I've got to things to say relating to Oak, I love your journey of watching harry potter and I love that you went off and watched some fan theory's because the community are amazing id recommend super carlin brothers. secondly its so touching the story you told about when you were younger and relating it to Dudley, hopeful it will help some kids out there in a similar situation
I love you guys and I LOVE the discussions. It's what makes us connect through this amazing series. I got the harry potter book for christmas when I was a kid, from my aunt... I was maybe 7 or 8. My mom read the 1st and most of the 2nd to me... and then I couldn't wait for her and took over reading them myself. It's been a part of my life ever since and at 31 I have restarted the series AGAIN. I just love watching people fall in love with this series for ALL it has to offer. As I grew up with the books.... I definitely got different things/lessons out of it at different stages in my life. All the metaphors and representstions of life in this magical series is just incredible. Thank you, thank you for sharing the journey with us! I can't wait for what's next. ❤
Thank you! There are so many layers to this. It's just amazing. More to come
Thank you Oak for speaking on such am important issue. Respect ppl as ppl. Period. Humanity at it's simplest core value.
I agree with so much of what oak said about Draco, whether you like or dislike him, he could've been such a good character example of growing in a prejudiced or horrible household and being able to overcome it. He never got redemption in the books or movies but he really could've been a good opportunity to show kids growing up in said households. Sadly Jkr didn't take that opportunity when writing the books
Love hearing your roundtable discussion on Potter. I am always here for that. Thanks fellas.
oh YES YES YESS!! Thank god you did this reaction I hoped you would :)
It's great to see you all enjoy Harry Potter even after the movie reactions have ended! You never cease to make me smile.
A fun fan theory I would suggest looking into is from Film Theory by Mattpat. Specifically the one where he discusses there being more than one "Chosen One" (someone else other than Harry). It's quite interesting and I think you all would enjoy watching it.
Thank you guys so much for going in depth with HP series! I take enormous pleasure in listening to your discussions. I'd love to see any content on this universe from you! (highly recommend audiobooks recorded by Stephen Fry. They are a blast!)
oh my god i am thrilled that you are doing this. the draco one will forever make me upset, it would’ve been the perfect ending for his character.
Agreed. Such a moment for his character.
If I'm honest, I could watch you guys do "2nd and 3rd, etc." watches of the whole series again haha - I've watched them so many times it's cool to see others immerse themselves in the world for the first time!
I honestly wish Oak recorded his second watch! The second watch - and even the third - is so much more interesting than the first...... seeing all the clues (Scabbers, Quirrel, Ginny with the diary, etc).
Bottom line, I think that is why Petunia makes sure Harry was allowed to stay on Privet Drive every year. She was jealous that she wasn’t chosen for Hogwarts. She called Lilly a freak because of it, and yet when Dumbledore asked her to allow Harry to live with her and her family, the love she had for her sister, gave her the strength to agree. Yes, they treated him like crap but he was always allowed to return, which kept him safe when he is away from Hogwarts. I think these scenes should have been left in.
Been loving all these potter videos!! I’d also love for The Oak to do book discussion videos if he’s up to it :)
I’ve been bingeing your videos over the last 3 days while sick with Covid and you’re officially my new fav react channel! I love how The Oak has become a Potterhead when he was not originally looking forward to the series. 🥰🥰
I really love the in depth discussions you're having about HP series.
Book reviews from Oak or everyone would be perfection. In my mind you'll find the books incomparable to the movies especially after the 3rd book. The characterization is 1000 stronger and there's alot left out! The true source and its a must!
It's so funny and cute how Oak turned out to be the biggest fan out of you 3 😁 It just goes to show the depth and emotional impact of the HP story that it made a skeptic like him talk about personal events in his life, discuss the metaphors for racism and other messages, delve into character motivations etc. 👍
The scene with Malfoy throwing the wand, I read that it's JKR who didn't want it in, because it's basically too heroic for Malfoy. I agree with the decision. I like that things remain realistic when it comes to his arc, he's not bad like before but also not a hero.
The scene with Dudley should really have been included in I think. But Petunia I don't care. She was very jealous of her sister and she never showed sadness over her death. In the 1st movie she even tells Harry in a brutal way that Lily "got herself blown up" so whatever she says now is too little too late 🤷♀️ I don't remember how that last Dursleys scene plays out in the book. I have started rereading the series as I realized I forgot many details!
I definitely recommend listening to the Dursleys Departing chapter of Hallows. Two members of the Order of the Phoenix escort the Dursleys and are there calling them out for not saying goodbye to Harry. When Dudley talks to Harry, Harry tells them that for Dudley, that was like him saying "I love you".
I would have loved for that scene to have had more focus in the film. It would have kept people's minds open to the possibility of Harry potentially finding them again, and even maybe becoming closer with Dudley.
There's a great fan fiction out there of Dudley having a daughter who ends up going to Hogwarts, and Harry kind of walking him through what it's like and even reuniting with Petunia.
Once again I really love watching your reactions and have been watching them back to back pretty much. Great job🤙
As always seems to happen, I strongly agree with Oak’s takes, especially the one about Draco tossing his wand to Harry before the final confrontation. That should have stayed in both for the heavy reasons Oak gave and for simple continuity. Harry had no wand when Hagrid carried him in, which was confirmed in the previous movie when Hermione apologized for getting his wand broken. Then suddenly he has one. It was jarring enough that it bothered me when I first saw the movie. Where did that wand come from?
The transfer of Draco’s wand to Harry was also foreshadowed when the rescued wandmaker tells Harry that this wand used to be Draco’s but “I sense its allegiance has changed” because Harry had disarmed Draco. We don’t see that wand given back to Draco, but it must have been. He had been using his mother’s wand in the meantime, but that one has no allegiance to either Draco or Harry.
There is also another scene of redemption for Draco in the previous movie. When the Death Eaters caught Harry when he was disguised and looked disfigured, Bellatrix suspected his identity and demanded that Draco confirm it was Harry. Draco knew who it was, but he bravely stood his ground. He saved Harry’s life by refusing to betray him. In a later scene, Harry recalls this and asks Draco why he didn’t betray him. Maybe the showrunners thought this was enough redemption for Draco. If so, I strongly disagree. The passing of the wand SHOULD have been shot clearly and included. It’s pivotal for multiple reasons and would have taken a minute or less.
Oak did us all a favor by immersing himself in the scenes and discussions before making this video. His insights were pure gold.
Watching this a year later, after Oak has already watch a ton of "teen" movies, makes me think this is when his mind opened up to enjoy those types of movies. I am here for it too.