My dad played baseball with Bob at Creighton and was his dorm RA. He had some great stories about Bob and Paul Silas from those days. Rest in peace pops. I miss you so much.
I love that McCarver says to Gibson, 'you won 7 world series games in a row'.....Gibson replies 'yeah'. He was an amazing pitcher and looks fantastic at his age.
Considering they lost in ‘68, I’m sure he would have rather won the title instead of having a personal streak. He really transcended the game, brushing guys back, his velocity, all of it.
What a class act Bob was. He was the consummate professional which was exemplified by all his triumphs and his successes in the game. Tim and Bob made great teamwork. R.I.P. Bob & Tim…we ❤ U.
I remember watching Bob Gibson when I was growing up in the 60's on tv and I especially remember the Series against the Tigers. He just seemed so much larger than life when he was on the mound. Just awesome. Rest in Peace.
I'm 67. Lifelong Yankee fan and baseball fan. Bob Gibson is among the top pitchers I've ever seen, a man I would want to pitch for me if my life depended on it. The others are, and not in order: Whitey Ford (of course, but I watched him all through my childhood); Tom Seaver; Warren Spahn; Sandy Koufax; and Jim Palmer on the side. They were winners. My condolences to Bob's family, friends and fans. Rest In Peace.
Hi Steve, love your comment which really hits home. My name is Lee LaPointe. I'll be 69 in Aug. and a lifelong Memphian (a hub city of Cardinal nation and Tim McCarver's hometown) but I am also a lifelong Yankees fan thanks largely to Mickey Mantle and CBS game of the week broadcasts. However, I did live in NYC (Manhattan) for a short time '63-'64 amd spent a few weeks there each summer through '69. I was actually disappointed when the Yanks lost to the Cards in the '64 WS but by '67 the Cards had become my second favorite team; literally a 1 and 1A proposition for me as a fan. I was disappointed the Cards never made the Series head to head with the Yanks during the Torre era; good times. A few related memorables for me; I've attended games in Busch Stadium 1 and 2. Haven't been to STL in years but seeing a game in 3 is on my list. I attended the '65 Mayor's Trophy exhibition game Yanks-Mets in old Yankee Stadium. My last summer in New York I saw the live local broadcast of Tom Seaver's "imperfect game". (July 9, 1969) And finally, wev'e now lost McCarver. Gibson and McCarver were such fine gentlemen and exemplary persons. McCarver was often described as polarizing in the role of broadcaster. Seriously never understood that. I thought he was one of the best color commentators in all of sport. Best wishes to you.
As a life long METS fan who bleeds the blue and orange,It’s nice to see Tom Terrific on your list. Didn’t see him pitch when he was in his prime as I wasn’t around yet.
Lifetime lessons from this great independent thinker. My hero as a child and gained more respect as the 62 years have gone by. He never compromised his principles. He is missed.
Pray for Bob Gibson going through pancreatic cancer. Hoot, we love you and keep fighting as you did on that mound in 68. #PrayforGibby #Prayforhoot #Prayforbobgibson #Prayfor45
Ryan had far less control, especially when he was younger, and winning percentage, but dang if he couldn’t throw it harder consistently than nearly anybody ever, and for a very, very long time.
Glad you mentioned Ryan. 7 No-hitters. I saw him pitch in Houston, Sat right behind the catcher, and I didn't even see the ball for the first 3 innings. Just heard Ryan Grunt and the pop from the catcher's mitt. Two absolute greats.
@@monumentofwonders The umpire Ron Luciano admitted in one of his books that he lost sight of some of Ryan's pitches. He said it looked like the ball exploded on its way to the plate. It was too fast for human eyes to follow.
Bob Gibson was so great, MLB had to change the rules of the game. The next season, they lowered the pitcher's mound. It just was not fair to the hitters to have the mound so high. When a player forces a league to change the rules ,because you are too good, you are the best.
13 shutouts. In one season. 1.12 ERA. No one comes close. Greatest season by a starter. Now, I would agree that the argument can be made for putting Pedro in the conversation. However. 13 shoutouts in 1 season. Not happening again.
@@chrisweidner4768 Also, the combined average OPS of every single batter Gibson faced in that 1968 season was .469, which is an OPS so low that no MLB hitter with at least 1161 plate appearances in the post-integration era (that's the number of plate appearances Gibson pitched to that season) has _EVER_ had an OPS that low before. He took the entirety of the national league, including multiple future hall of fame hitters and everyone in the league who got MVP votes that season (except for himself, since he won the MVP award), and made them all a joke, made them all so bad at hitting that there's never been a player as bad as that since 1947. Not even close. Nobody even approaches an OPS that low. That's out of thousands of players by the way. It's just an absolutely redonkulous stat, maybe even more impressive than his ERA honestly.
As a kid we didn't have MLB in Denver. I took a trip to LA to visit my sister and her boyfriend knew I was a baseball fan and took me to a Dodger's game. I got to see Bob Gibson pitch against Don Drysdale, and Bob won 3 to 1, so kept his 1.12 intact. Magic.
I read somewhere that when McCarver first caught Gibson, he went to the mound to discuss pitch selection with Gibson. And Gibson told him: "The only thing you know about my pitching is that you can't hit it." LOL - true. Rest in Peace, Bob Gibson. They don't make them like you anymore.
Bob Gibson the most dominate Pitcher in the last 50 years. This man was hit with a line drive one time, shook it off and finished the game. That is old school big league. Anytime Bob Gibson was pitching it was a pure joy to attend or watch the game. He also suffered from Asthma, as did I. He made me feel like I could play baseball despite it and I did. Thank you Bob Gibson God Bless you
Yep. The line drive from Clemente. How he could pitch on a fractured leg was incredible. Note though that he could not finish the game; he was pulled out when the ankle (fibula) fracture finally split in two; that was after he had retired a few other batters.
The first mlb game I attended was in 1965 at Sportsman Park in St. Louis.against the Philadelphia Phillies. Bob Gibson faced Chris Short, a great southpaw pitcher. Cardinals won the game 12 to 2. Thanks for the magical memories. Gibby. My prayers are with you sir. Get well soon. Godspeed. car
@@basilmarasco1975 and funnily enough a lot of that was just that he couldn't see very well. So he had to lean forward and squint and frown to see his catcher's signs. But that ended up being a really intimidating thing to see as a batter. And he's not anywhere near close to being the guy who threw the ball at batters the most times. But the fear of him doing that, certainly existed. The fear was stronger than the reality. And so it you were a batter you'd constantly be trying to not piss Bob off for some reason or another, in order to avoid getting hit. But yeah, when he played in all-star games, he refused to be friendly with his teammates. They'd try and talk to him, even very respectfully, but to him they were his enemies who just happened to be his teammates for a one-off game. So he refused to talk with them or be friendly in the slightest with them. Which probably only increased his reputation of being terrifying all the more. And he was a lovely man when he was alive, who was kind and respectful and friendly to everyone and was funny, telling jokes all the time. Except for when he played baseball. Once he was playing, all of theat flew out the window and his sole desire was to scare and beat the other team. So once he retired and it turned out that he was this lovely guy all along, who just switched that part of himself off when he was playing in order to win more, I'm sure that shocked everyone in MLB at the time.
I have to agree. My 2 best big game pitchers: Bob Gibson, RHP; Sandy Koufax, LHP. The 1967 and 1968 Cardinals were a fundamentally sound team. Did not make mental errors.
As a Dodger fan, it's hard to admit, but Madison Bumgarner is very good in big games too. One run allowed in 36 World Series Innings. Two wild card winner-take-all games - 2 complete game shutouts.
I love this quote from Dusty Baker on Bob Gibson: Hank Aaron on Bob Gibson “(Hank Aaron told me) ‘Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don’t stare at him, don’t smile at him, don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow, don’t run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound, because he’s a Gold Glove boxer.’ I’m like, ‘Damn, what about my 17-game hitting streak?’ That was the night it ended.” -Dusty Baker
@@jamesanthony5681 I have never heard any stories about that. It seems like if it had happened it would be at the top of the list in the lore of Bob Gibson. I am not sure if it came out in any of this thread, but he was also a Harlem Globetrotter....So were Fergie Jenkins and Ernie Banks. Just a few extra trivia stumpers for everyone!
Although most people talk about Bob Gibson's pitching skills, and rightfully so. I think we forget he won 9 Gold Gloves in 17 years! All round a great athlete.
I’m a Met fan and my Uncle Joe would take his daughter and I ago Shea when we were kids. When the Cards would come in for a weekend he would go thru the anticipated rotation to see which day it would be Seaver vs Gibson and that’s the day we went. What a treat it was to see games like that at Shea. So lucky to have been a kid back then and to see two of baseball’s best in a pitching duel!
I remember the 1967 WS. They were all *giants,* on both teams, Yaz and Lonborg with the Red Sox and Bob Gibson and Lou Brock with the Cards. How many bases would Lou Brock steal? How many batters would Bob Gibson strike out? Yaz had won the AL Triple Crown that season and the Red Sox had won the AL pennant on the last day of the regular season. And Bob Gibson hit a solo HR during one of his Series wins at Fenway!
what very few remember and they did not bring up is that gibsons season era and denny mclains 30 wins in 1968 plus the fact that 20% of games that year were shutouts caused mlb to lower the mound the next year from 15 inches to ten. EVERY HITTER from that point on in mlb has had a distinct advantage over every pre 69 player
Bob Gibson in his prime was like Michael Jordan in his prime in terms of competitive fire. There was no player in baseball In his time that was even close to Bob Gibson as a competitor. On the mound, he was intense and he took no prisoners. The greatest season of pitching in the history of baseball was Gibsons 1968 season With a 1.12 ERA And that was at a time when pitchers frequently pitched on three days rest. It was not a big deal like they make it out to be in today’s baseball.
One time, McCarver was catching Gibson, and McCarver came out to the mound to tell Gibson something, and Gibson said, "Get back behind the plate! The only thing you know about pitching is that it's hard to hit."
yes, Gibby did not want McCarver coming to mound....He was once asked on a baseball show about that and he replied after getting chewed out by Gibson....He said he only went out to Gibson at the mound if he was invited!...I was once a fairly good pitcher in HS and Div 1 college ⚾️ and I was also that way....I would even wave the coach off if it wasn't that important to come out....pitchers get into a 'rythym' and we dont like that being interfered with and most none pitchers just do not understand that. Pitchers of today are mostly pussys...they would not even have made the big leagues in the 1960's....why? in my time we were EXPECTED to go go the full 9 innings ( 8 innings at least ) not 4-5 to maybe 6 innings of today, it was considered a failure if not gone the full 9 innings--and relief pitchers back then?....these were usually the 'crummy' guys who were not good enough to be starters...now they have made that into a specialty guy who can work middle relief and pitch ONE freakin INNING-lol---what a joke. Now, the closers are a little diff and should get some respect, but still that term was not yet really invented yet in the '60's--starters closed their own games....THE DECADE OF THE PITCHER. Period.....PS--- I was at the 1968 Cardinals vs Tigers WS and in game #6 saw a 31 GAME WINNER...the last one...Denny McClain of Detroit pitch ( he went 31-6 in reg season )....talk about witnessing ⚾️ history!...and was there right behind Cardinal's dugout in WS game #1 when Gibson struck out 17 Detroit hitters....the still current WS record. I have been fortunate to have seen many diff WS match ups held in diff cities as well. The game today has about the same rules...however just a very diff mindset in today's front office down and through the players. I do not have the respect and love of the game as I used to.
@@rickr7599 Amen Rick, my brother was a high school pitcher and he was cruising along with a 2 hitter in the seventh inning. Score was 4 to 2 then, 1 run was unearned. After he walked a batter after getting first batter, coach comes out tells my brother he's taking him out. My brother told him no way, and reminded the coach their reliever had been overworked. And he was the teams shortstop and a good on. The coach relented; next batter my brother went to 2 &1 count on him, threw next pitch slider down and away, got DP ground ball DP 4-6-3 to end game and get the win.
Man...very few pitchers in the history of the game with his demeanor on the mound. Randy Johnson, Roger Clemons, Pedro Martinez, Nolan Ryan come to mind for recent times.
My first 2 sports heroes Bob Gibson and Lou Brock, followed by Bart Starr and Ray Nitschke. You may be able to show me 4 as good but not 4 better. Now all my sports heroes are gone
Bob had the best ERA of ANY starting pitcher in the majors in 1968, 1.12. And he pitched a fine World Series against Detroit, even though they lost in 7 games. Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax and Jim Palmer were the greatest pitchers of the '60's and legendary Hall of Famers as well.
Also, the combined average OPS of every single batter he faced in that 1968 season was .469, which is an OPS so low that no MLB hitter with at least 1161 plate appearances in the post-integration era (that's the number of plate appearances Gibson pitched to that season) has _EVER_ had an OPS that low before. He took the entirety of the national league, including multiple future hall of fame hitters and everyone in the league who got MVP votes that season (except for himself, since he won the MVP award), and made them all a joke, made them all so bad at hitting that there's never been a player as bad as that since 1947. Not even close. Nobody even approaches an OPS that low. That's out of thousands of players by the way. It's just an absolutely redonkulous stat, maybe even more impressive than his ERA honestly.
I don't know a whole lot about baseball or pitching but you can tell within 10 secs that Mr. Gibson was a badass and not to be trifled with on the mound. May he rest in peace.
July 1, 1968. Cardinals at Dodgers. Gibson vs. Drysdale. Drysdale had already pitched his scoreless inning streak (6 shutouts - 58 2/3 IP). Gibson's previous 5 starts were all shutouts. The Dodgers scored a run on a wild pitch in the first inning. Gibson shut them out the rest of the way for a 5-1 win.
lou brock tells the story, (the day before this interview) lou said gibson was great except, "you don't talk to bob the day he's pitching". lou came in the clubhouse and wanted to tell gibson a new joke, gibson said "i'm pitching today". lou says "so, i want you to hear this joke", lou said gibson told him again he was pitching and didn't want to hear the joke. that was the end of it.
I read a fictional baseball story about a player like that, except he was the team's slugging 1st baseman. "Once he gets to the park and into the clubhouse, he is after peace and quiet. He will walk away from a conversation. He opens the paper to see who the probable starter for the other team is. Then he sits down and thinks about the probable starter. Then he gets undressed and sits down in his jock and thinks about it some more. Then he puts on his uniform, sticks his cap on his head, sticks the sports page in his pocket and walks down the tunnel, still thinking about the probable starter." "Bang The Drum Slowly", by Mark Harris.
@@basilmarasco1975 that reminds of a story about tennessee titans quarterback steve mcnair, don't remember how it came about but coach jeff fisher realized that if mcnair got a nap before a game in the clubhouse, he played better, they would always try to find a secluded part in the stadium where mcnair could get a few winks before the game started.
...back in the 1960's the two big names and most feared of all pitchers were Koufax & Gibson. Period. I grew up the St. Louis area and got to see Gibby pitch several times from fantastic seats....I was ever so lucky...and I knew it, too. I learned to really appreciate 1-0.....2-1 scoring games of those days.....Gibson was 22-9 in 1968 when he set the still ERA record of 1.12.....my biggest dilemma from all that was now did he even lose those 9 games?...he had 13 complete 9 inning shut out games on top of all this. What a splendor to watch.....moving artwork...poetry some still say....he feared no one....they feared him...'COMPLETE SELF CONFIDENCE--YOU WILL NOT BEAT ME TODAY' ....was in his gut at all times on the mound...and that was his "secret" as many would wonder what it was that made him stand tall above so many others...his 'Pitcher's Zone' was like no other's except maybe Koufax I had always thought about him....Bob, if you ever by small chance would read this.....let's go back and let me see you do it again....I will even spring for the hotdogs, after you walk off the mound at Busch #2...another full 9 innings...a little bead of sweat on your brow and yes, another 1-0 victory for your guys and all of us.....for those of you that ever may read this I wish you could have witnessed too, of what these eyes saw in that special 1960's Gibson era when I was in my teen years of age...I think I appreciated it more too, as I was a pretty good pitcher in my own right back then and was very fortunate to receive a baseball scholarship to the then top rated of Division 1 baseball schools-- Arizona State..... after my senior year of high school.
@@VintageVoid3 ....hard to say really.....diff era's......diff pitchers, etc. Everything about the art of pitching has just changed....starters today expected to go just 5 innings......compared to almost all 9 ....or at least 7 innings of the 60's.....the guaranteed contracts of today are a huge maker of a diff mental makeup of any pitcher or player....in the 60's you better do your job or else....today ...no worries...still get that HUGE MONEY NO MATTER WHAT....now that will alter the mindeset of any pitcher....in reality....why try hard anymore?....for what?......for who?...comes down to personable pride then and today's guys simply are lacking in that one.
@@VintageVoid3 No. Kershaw/Halladay wouldn't be close to Koufax and Gibby. Back in the 60s it was rare for either of them not to go nine innings. Today it's rare if they do.
@garylobo3 ,Rose, Mays, Mantle and Aaron were not the only All Stars and future Hall Of Famers who were dominant back in the late 50's 60's and 70's. In regard to the level of competition, I submit that the following are also worthy of your consideration: Roberto Clemente, Frank Robinson, Willie Stargell, Willie McCovey, Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Lou Brock, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, Carl Yastremski, Rod Carew, Harmon Killebrew, Eddie Mathews and Stan Musial. Personally, I would have no hesitation in finding that competition wise, the aforementioned Hall Of Famers are every bit as great as the more modern era players on your list.
I'll take a team batting average of .220 as long I know that Bob Gibson Juan Marichal , Sandy Koufax, Whitey Ford, Warren Spahn. were the starting five on the team. That's three lefties as well.
And I would put Tom Seaver and Jim Palmer on that staff as 6 & 7 in the rotation, if that could ever possible. Another 2 of the all time great starting pitchers in baseball.
They changed the height of the mound because of Bob Gibson. He was terrifying, and great. An entire season with a 1.12 ERA. That is dominant. In the broadcast booth, he seems like a nice guy. On the mound, not so much.
The pitchers from the era of Gibson, Carlton, Ferguson Jenkins. Tom Weaver and so many more were much better pitchers and athletes as opposed to pitchers of today. The pitchers of the past would pitch 15-25 complete games a year win or lose. The pitchers of today do not even pitch 15-25 complete games during their whole career.
I agree to a point.....but todays players lift weights have their own personal chefs etc.....its crazy back then 90 percent of all players had to have off season jobs to survive now all the players today work out in their private gyms at home with their trainers in the off season..... back then the players were told lifting weights was bad for you as far as slowing you down etc....I think the pitchers of today are going up against better more in shape hitters.....
The pitching mound was significantly higher in the 1960s. It helped their pitching and their arms. See the Denny McClain interview about the impact of lowering the mound and the increase in pitcher injuries that resulted.
Watching these two is what made me a lifelong Cardinals fan. Even now, when I think of the Redbirds, my first mental image of McCarver running out to the mound to shake Gibby's hand. To me, they were the heart and soul of the team.
Both baseball legends... Bob Gibson was from a time that pitchers pitched entire games. Today's pitchers can't compare. To Gibson, Marachal, Ford and Koufax.
Bob Gibson was a very talented pitcher. Being a Braves fan was tough if we drew Mr. Gibson. We didn't win much in those days, and it might have been easier to just go ahead and mark games against Tim McCarver and Bob Gibson in the lost column.
I only wish I had seen him pitch. And I also wonder what his average top fast ball was. He pitched before speed guns of course. It seemed he had a hell of a fast ball.
This footage is literally baseball history. Such a valuable video to see these all-time greats explaining their craft. I bet that announcer was sweating through this one.
RIP to both of these legends
My dad played baseball with Bob at Creighton and was his dorm RA. He had some great stories about Bob and Paul Silas from those days. Rest in peace pops. I miss you so much.
I love that McCarver says to Gibson, 'you won 7 world series games in a row'.....Gibson replies 'yeah'. He was an amazing pitcher and looks fantastic at his age.
Considering they lost in ‘68, I’m sure he would have rather won the title instead of having a personal streak. He really transcended the game, brushing guys back, his velocity, all of it.
@@Psyfi85 they lowered the mound because of him 😂
What a class act Bob was. He was the consummate professional which was exemplified by all his triumphs and his successes in the game. Tim and Bob made great teamwork. R.I.P. Bob & Tim…we ❤ U.
I remember watching Bob Gibson when I was growing up in the 60's on tv and I especially remember the Series against the Tigers. He just seemed so much larger than life when he was on the mound. Just awesome. Rest in Peace.
I'm 67. Lifelong Yankee fan and baseball fan. Bob Gibson is among the top pitchers I've ever seen, a man I would want to pitch for me if my life depended on it. The others are, and not in order: Whitey Ford (of course, but I watched him all through my childhood); Tom Seaver; Warren Spahn; Sandy Koufax; and Jim Palmer on the side. They were winners. My condolences to Bob's family, friends and fans. Rest In Peace.
Hi Steve, love your comment which really hits home. My name is Lee LaPointe. I'll be 69 in Aug. and a lifelong Memphian (a hub city of Cardinal nation and Tim McCarver's hometown) but I am also a lifelong Yankees fan thanks largely to Mickey Mantle and CBS game of the week broadcasts. However, I did live in NYC (Manhattan) for a short time '63-'64 amd spent a few weeks there each summer through '69. I was actually disappointed when the Yanks lost to the Cards in the '64 WS but by '67 the Cards had become my second favorite team; literally a 1 and 1A proposition for me as a fan. I was disappointed the Cards never made the Series head to head with the Yanks during the Torre era; good times. A few related memorables for me; I've attended games in Busch Stadium 1 and 2. Haven't been to STL in years but seeing a game in 3 is on my list. I attended the '65 Mayor's Trophy exhibition game Yanks-Mets in old Yankee Stadium. My last summer in New York I saw the live local broadcast of Tom Seaver's "imperfect game". (July 9, 1969) And finally, wev'e now lost McCarver. Gibson and McCarver were such fine gentlemen and exemplary persons. McCarver was often described as polarizing in the role of broadcaster. Seriously never understood that. I thought he was one of the best color commentators in all of sport. Best wishes to you.
whitey had second best win pct with everyone over 100 decisions of .691
As a life long METS fan who bleeds the blue and orange,It’s nice to see Tom Terrific on your list. Didn’t see him pitch when he was in his prime as I wasn’t around yet.
I truly love the old timers talking about how they made things happen and sharing their experiences and friendships
Rest in Peace Mr. Gibson.
Lifetime lessons from this great independent thinker. My hero as a child and gained more respect as the 62 years have gone by. He never compromised his principles. He is missed.
and enjoy the "green, green grass" of the after-life's "home" diamond ...
Wow didn't know he passed away 😭
And Mr. Mccarver.
Pray for Bob Gibson going through pancreatic cancer. Hoot, we love you and keep fighting as you did on that mound in 68.
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Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan- two favorites of all-time
Old Man Doom When pitching was a man’s profession. If you didn’t go 8+ you were a scrub. Not these 5 inning outings. Pitch counts are for babies
Ryan had far less control, especially when he was younger, and winning percentage, but dang if he couldn’t throw it harder consistently than nearly anybody ever, and for a very, very long time.
Bob Gibson and sandy Koufax were the best 2 pictures of their era sandy was a little meaner i wish I
Glad you mentioned Ryan. 7 No-hitters. I saw him pitch in Houston, Sat right behind the catcher, and I didn't even see the ball for the first 3 innings. Just heard Ryan Grunt and the pop from the catcher's mitt. Two absolute greats.
@@monumentofwonders The umpire Ron Luciano admitted in one of his books that he lost sight of some of Ryan's pitches. He said it looked like the ball exploded on its way to the plate. It was too fast for human eyes to follow.
I'm STiLL crying over the loss of these legends
Got to see both of them💕💕💕💕💕💕
Bob Gibson was so great, MLB had to change the rules of the game. The next season, they lowered the pitcher's mound. It just was not fair to the hitters to have the mound so high. When a player forces a league to change the rules ,because you are too good, you are the best.
Even after they lowered the mound he still had a 2.18 ERA, 28 complete games, went 20-13 and had 269 strikeouts. He was the best pitcher I ever saw.
13 shutouts. In one season. 1.12 ERA. No one comes close. Greatest season by a starter. Now, I would agree that the argument can be made for putting Pedro in the conversation. However. 13 shoutouts in 1 season. Not happening again.
Exactly! That's why Bill Russell was the greatest NBA player: he forced the rules to be changed.
@@mja91352 Actually, Wilt Chamberlain did!
@@chrisweidner4768 Also, the combined average OPS of every single batter Gibson faced in that 1968 season was .469, which is an OPS so low that no MLB hitter with at least 1161 plate appearances in the post-integration era (that's the number of plate appearances Gibson pitched to that season) has _EVER_ had an OPS that low before. He took the entirety of the national league, including multiple future hall of fame hitters and everyone in the league who got MVP votes that season (except for himself, since he won the MVP award), and made them all a joke, made them all so bad at hitting that there's never been a player as bad as that since 1947. Not even close. Nobody even approaches an OPS that low. That's out of thousands of players by the way. It's just an absolutely redonkulous stat, maybe even more impressive than his ERA honestly.
What a grat interview. RIP Mr. Gibson. I was privledged to watch and listen to all of your games.
As a kid we didn't have MLB in Denver. I took a trip to LA to visit my sister and her boyfriend knew I was a baseball fan and took me to a Dodger's game. I got to see Bob Gibson pitch against Don Drysdale, and Bob won 3 to 1, so kept his 1.12 intact. Magic.
Drysdale and Gibson? That sounds like a bad day to be a hitter. I'd be worried that those guys would have bet on how many batters they could hit.
I read somewhere that when McCarver first caught Gibson, he went to the mound to discuss pitch selection with Gibson. And Gibson told him: "The only thing you know about my pitching is that you can't hit it." LOL - true. Rest in Peace, Bob Gibson. They don't make them like you anymore.
Bob Gibson the most dominate Pitcher in the last 50 years. This man was hit with a line drive one time, shook it off and finished the game. That is old school big league. Anytime Bob Gibson was pitching it was a pure joy to attend or watch the game. He also suffered from Asthma, as did I. He made me feel like I could play baseball despite it and I did. Thank you Bob Gibson God Bless you
Yep. The line drive from Clemente. How he could pitch on a fractured leg was incredible. Note though that he could not finish the game; he was pulled out when the ankle (fibula) fracture finally split in two; that was after he had retired a few other batters.
Gibson was always a matter of fact guy, no b.s. with this man!
The first mlb game I attended was in 1965 at Sportsman Park in St. Louis.against the Philadelphia Phillies. Bob Gibson faced Chris Short, a great southpaw pitcher. Cardinals won the game 12 to 2. Thanks for the magical memories. Gibby. My prayers are with you sir. Get well soon. Godspeed.
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Sportsman's park WAS The BEST
RIP Mr. Gibson. What a pitcher. Losing him and Seaver is such a loss to the game. I believe they r the starting pitchers in Heaven.
One of the most ferocious competitors ever. Fearsome.
He had a definite "game face." The other team was *not* his buddies. Fellow ballplayers, yes. Buddies, no.
@@basilmarasco1975 and funnily enough a lot of that was just that he couldn't see very well. So he had to lean forward and squint and frown to see his catcher's signs. But that ended up being a really intimidating thing to see as a batter.
And he's not anywhere near close to being the guy who threw the ball at batters the most times. But the fear of him doing that, certainly existed. The fear was stronger than the reality. And so it you were a batter you'd constantly be trying to not piss Bob off for some reason or another, in order to avoid getting hit.
But yeah, when he played in all-star games, he refused to be friendly with his teammates. They'd try and talk to him, even very respectfully, but to him they were his enemies who just happened to be his teammates for a one-off game. So he refused to talk with them or be friendly in the slightest with them. Which probably only increased his reputation of being terrifying all the more.
And he was a lovely man when he was alive, who was kind and respectful and friendly to everyone and was funny, telling jokes all the time. Except for when he played baseball. Once he was playing, all of theat flew out the window and his sole desire was to scare and beat the other team. So once he retired and it turned out that he was this lovely guy all along, who just switched that part of himself off when he was playing in order to win more, I'm sure that shocked everyone in MLB at the time.
What a great battery that was. Top 10 of all time in my humble opinion. Always great to listen to their insights about the game.
Bob Gibson was the best big game pitcher I ever saw. Bar none and without question.
I have to agree. My 2 best big game pitchers: Bob Gibson, RHP; Sandy Koufax, LHP. The 1967 and 1968 Cardinals were a fundamentally sound team. Did not make mental errors.
@@jamesanthony5681 You know your baseball
As a Dodger fan, it's hard to admit, but Madison Bumgarner is very good in big games too. One run allowed in 36 World Series Innings. Two wild card winner-take-all games - 2 complete game shutouts.
@@joebarr725 I'll take Gibby anytime
I remember Bob Gibson once doing a commercial for an inhaler ... which he actually used because he had asthma. Anyone else remember?
Yes I do. Amazing that an athlete of his stature was asthmatic.
Primatene Mist.
Primatene, 15 seconds
If my life depended on it,I want Gibson.
I said the same!
@@greglaman9548 Gotya
Mariano Rivera is not a starter, but he is the greatest pitcher of all time. One batter to get out, I'm taking a prime Mo over anyone.
@@punkem733 Hard to argue with that but I'll still go with Gibson.
And for a lefty I’d take Spahn
I love this quote from Dusty Baker on Bob Gibson:
Hank Aaron on Bob Gibson
“(Hank Aaron told me) ‘Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don’t stare at him, don’t smile at him, don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow, don’t run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound, because he’s a Gold Glove boxer.’ I’m like, ‘Damn, what about my 17-game hitting streak?’ That was the night it ended.”
-Dusty Baker
1.12 that's insane
I'm curious if any batter charged the mound after being hit by Gibson. I can't recall McCarver saying it happened.
@@jamesanthony5681 I have never heard any stories about that. It seems like if it had happened it would be at the top of the list in the lore of Bob Gibson. I am not sure if it came out in any of this thread, but he was also a Harlem Globetrotter....So were Fergie Jenkins and Ernie Banks. Just a few extra trivia stumpers for everyone!
He also played the guitar fairly well ...
Wow.....greatness explained
Love this.., watching two greats from back in the day, obviously, still in love with the game...
Loved to watch Bob pitch!!!!
My Dads favorite player! RIP Dad and Bob
Although most people talk about Bob Gibson's pitching skills, and rightfully so. I think we forget he won 9 Gold Gloves in 17 years! All round a great athlete.
Yessir. Standout basketball player too!
Good hitter too.
I'm glad I was Blessed to see in my opinion one of the best batteries in baseball. God Bless them both.
Don’t forget that McCarver was a battery mate of Steve Carlton , another Hall of Famer .
Best pitcher in the game of baseball
grit, determination, humility. #RIP
Two great Cardinal greats! 1st class guys all the way.
This was awesome
So great to hear both of them share their memories !
Best pitcher of all time arguably
I’m a Met fan and my Uncle Joe would take his daughter and I ago Shea when we were kids. When the Cards would come in for a weekend he would go thru the anticipated rotation to see which day it would be Seaver vs Gibson and that’s the day we went. What a treat it was to see games like that at Shea. So lucky to have been a kid back then and to see two of baseball’s best in a pitching duel!
Still a record holder one of the greatest pitchers of all time Bob Gibson what a nice man! RIP
If I had to win one game I would want Gibson on the mound
I remember the 1967 WS. They were all *giants,* on both teams, Yaz and Lonborg with the Red Sox and Bob Gibson and Lou Brock with the Cards. How many bases would Lou Brock steal? How many batters would Bob Gibson strike out? Yaz had won the AL Triple Crown that season and the Red Sox had won the AL pennant on the last day of the regular season.
And Bob Gibson hit a solo HR during one of his Series wins at Fenway!
So awesome, thankful he was a Cardinal, got his jersey hanging in my basement.
what very few remember and they did not bring up is that gibsons season era and denny mclains 30 wins in 1968 plus the fact that 20% of games that year were shutouts caused mlb to lower the mound the next year from 15 inches to ten. EVERY HITTER from that point on in mlb has had a distinct advantage over every pre 69 player
Bob Gibson in his prime was like Michael Jordan in his prime in terms of competitive fire. There was no player in baseball In his time that was even close to Bob Gibson as a competitor. On the mound, he was intense and he took no prisoners. The greatest season of pitching in the history of baseball was Gibsons 1968 season With a 1.12 ERA And that was at a time when pitchers frequently pitched on three days rest. It was not a big deal like they make it out to be in today’s baseball.
Yes, he always wore his game face. He was all business ... no bar, no jukebox, no pinball machine!
an inspirational leader has left us
I saw Bob Gibson pitch an old timers game in Kansas City. As an Omaha guy, I wish I could have seen Bob Gibson pitch in St Louis when it mattered.
The first World Series I saw was the 1967 one where Gibson won three games. He was so tough and I wanted to be like him.
One time, McCarver was catching Gibson, and McCarver came out to the mound to tell Gibson something, and Gibson said, "Get back behind the plate! The only thing you know about pitching is that it's hard to hit."
Haha the way my dad told me it growing up, Gibby says, “the only thing you know about great pitching is YOU can’t hit it!”
yes, Gibby did not want McCarver coming to mound....He was once asked on a baseball show about that and he replied after getting chewed out by Gibson....He said he only went out to Gibson at the mound if he was invited!...I was once a fairly good pitcher in HS and Div 1 college ⚾️ and I was also that way....I would even wave the coach off if it wasn't that important to come out....pitchers get into a 'rythym' and we dont like that being interfered with and most none pitchers just do not understand that. Pitchers of today are mostly pussys...they would not even have made the big leagues in the 1960's....why? in my time we were EXPECTED to go go the full 9 innings ( 8 innings at least ) not 4-5 to maybe 6 innings of today, it was considered a failure if not gone the full 9 innings--and relief pitchers back then?....these were usually the 'crummy' guys who were not good enough to be starters...now they have made that into a specialty guy who can work middle relief and pitch ONE freakin INNING-lol---what a joke. Now, the closers are a little diff and should get some respect, but still that term was not yet really invented yet in the '60's--starters closed their own games....THE DECADE OF THE PITCHER. Period.....PS--- I was at the 1968 Cardinals vs Tigers WS and in game #6 saw a 31 GAME WINNER...the last one...Denny McClain of Detroit pitch ( he went 31-6 in reg season )....talk about witnessing ⚾️ history!...and was there right behind Cardinal's dugout in WS game #1 when Gibson struck out 17 Detroit hitters....the still current WS record. I have been fortunate to have seen many diff WS match ups held in diff cities as well. The game today has about the same rules...however just a very diff mindset in today's front office down and through the players. I do not have the respect and love of the game as I used to.
@@rickr7599 Amen Rick, my brother was a high school pitcher and he was cruising along with a 2 hitter in the seventh inning. Score was 4 to 2 then, 1 run was unearned. After he walked a batter after getting first batter, coach comes out tells my brother he's taking him out. My brother told him no way, and reminded the coach their reliever had been overworked. And he was the teams shortstop and a good on. The coach relented; next batter my brother went to 2 &1 count on him, threw next pitch slider down and away, got DP ground ball DP 4-6-3 to end game and get the win.
@@rickr7599 Trivia: Which Detroit batter drove in the run that sealed Denny McLain's 30th win?
From the book “Pitch by Pitch”. Excellent.
Man...very few pitchers in the history of the game with his demeanor on the mound. Randy Johnson, Roger Clemons, Pedro Martinez, Nolan Ryan come to mind for recent times.
My first 2 sports heroes Bob Gibson and Lou Brock, followed by Bart Starr and Ray Nitschke. You may be able to show me 4 as good but not 4 better. Now all my sports heroes are gone
Wow, I think he’s in his 80’s here and looked great!
Bob had the best ERA of ANY starting pitcher in the majors in 1968, 1.12. And he pitched a fine World Series against Detroit, even though they lost in 7 games. Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax and Jim Palmer were the greatest pitchers of the '60's and legendary Hall of Famers as well.
What about Marichal?
Also, the combined average OPS of every single batter he faced in that 1968 season was .469, which is an OPS so low that no MLB hitter with at least 1161 plate appearances in the post-integration era (that's the number of plate appearances Gibson pitched to that season) has _EVER_ had an OPS that low before. He took the entirety of the national league, including multiple future hall of fame hitters and everyone in the league who got MVP votes that season (except for himself, since he won the MVP award), and made them all a joke, made them all so bad at hitting that there's never been a player as bad as that since 1947. Not even close. Nobody even approaches an OPS that low. That's out of thousands of players by the way. It's just an absolutely redonkulous stat, maybe even more impressive than his ERA honestly.
Still torn between Stan and Gibby as my favorite Cardinals
Both
Nobody crowded the plate when Gibson was on the mound. RIP Tim & Bob.
Charming, intelligent guy...RIP.
That Bob Gibson was both beautiful and terrifying....
Bob Gibson was one of the truly great ones!
This is pure gold.
One of the top 4 pitchers in baseball a man they had to lower the mound on his account. RIP class act
I don't know a whole lot about baseball or pitching but you can tell within 10 secs that Mr. Gibson was a badass and not to be trifled with on the mound. May he rest in peace.
It is great they are still alive
RIP🙏🏻🙏🏻
July 1, 1968. Cardinals at Dodgers. Gibson vs. Drysdale.
Drysdale had already pitched his scoreless inning streak (6 shutouts - 58 2/3 IP). Gibson's previous 5 starts were all shutouts.
The Dodgers scored a run on a wild pitch in the first inning. Gibson shut them out the rest of the way for a 5-1 win.
lou brock tells the story, (the day before this interview) lou said gibson was great except, "you don't talk to bob the day he's pitching". lou came in the clubhouse and wanted to tell gibson a new joke, gibson said "i'm pitching today". lou says "so, i want you to hear this joke", lou said gibson told him again he was pitching and didn't want to hear the joke. that was the end of it.
I read a fictional baseball story about a player like that, except he was the team's slugging 1st baseman. "Once he gets to the park and into the clubhouse, he is after peace and quiet. He will walk away from a conversation. He opens the paper to see who the probable starter for the other team is. Then he sits down and thinks about the probable starter. Then he gets undressed and sits down in his jock and thinks about it some more. Then he puts on his uniform, sticks his cap on his head, sticks the sports page in his pocket and walks down the tunnel, still thinking about the probable starter."
"Bang The Drum Slowly", by Mark Harris.
@@basilmarasco1975 that reminds of a story about tennessee titans quarterback steve mcnair, don't remember how it came about but coach jeff fisher realized that if mcnair got a nap before a game in the clubhouse, he played better, they would always try to find a secluded part in the stadium where mcnair could get a few winks before the game started.
The evidence is that when Gibson was truly zoned in, that he was almost impossible to hit.
Gibson was the ultimate competitor, would not give an inch. RIH Bob.
...back in the 1960's the two big names and most feared of all pitchers were Koufax & Gibson. Period. I grew up the St. Louis area and got to see Gibby pitch several times from fantastic seats....I was ever so lucky...and I knew it, too. I learned to really appreciate 1-0.....2-1 scoring games of those days.....Gibson was 22-9 in 1968 when he set the still ERA record of 1.12.....my biggest dilemma from all that was now did he even lose those 9 games?...he had 13 complete 9 inning shut out games on top of all this. What a splendor to watch.....moving artwork...poetry some still say....he feared no one....they feared him...'COMPLETE SELF CONFIDENCE--YOU WILL NOT BEAT ME TODAY' ....was in his gut at all times on the mound...and that was his "secret" as many would wonder what it was that made him stand tall above so many others...his 'Pitcher's Zone' was like no other's except maybe Koufax I had always thought about him....Bob, if you ever by small chance would read this.....let's go back and let me see you do it again....I will even spring for the hotdogs, after you walk off the mound at Busch #2...another full 9 innings...a little bead of sweat on your brow and yes, another 1-0 victory for your guys and all of us.....for those of you that ever may read this I wish you could have witnessed too, of what these eyes saw in that special 1960's Gibson era when I was in my teen years of age...I think I appreciated it more too, as I was a pretty good pitcher in my own right back then and was very fortunate to receive a baseball scholarship to the then top rated of Division 1 baseball schools-- Arizona State..... after my senior year of high school.
@@VintageVoid3 ....hard to say really.....diff era's......diff pitchers, etc. Everything about the art of pitching has just changed....starters today expected to go just 5 innings......compared to almost all 9 ....or at least 7 innings of the 60's.....the guaranteed contracts of today are a huge maker of a diff mental makeup of any pitcher or player....in the 60's you better do your job or else....today ...no worries...still get that HUGE MONEY NO MATTER WHAT....now that will alter the mindeset of any pitcher....in reality....why try hard anymore?....for what?......for who?...comes down to personable pride then and today's guys simply are lacking in that one.
@@VintageVoid3 No. Kershaw/Halladay wouldn't be close to Koufax and Gibby. Back in the 60s it was rare for either of them not to go nine innings. Today it's rare if they do.
@garylobo3 ,Rose, Mays, Mantle and Aaron were not the only All Stars and future Hall Of Famers who were dominant back in the late 50's 60's and 70's. In regard to the level of competition, I submit that the following are also worthy of your consideration: Roberto Clemente, Frank Robinson, Willie Stargell, Willie McCovey, Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Lou Brock, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, Carl Yastremski, Rod Carew, Harmon Killebrew, Eddie Mathews and Stan Musial. Personally, I would have no hesitation in finding that competition wise, the aforementioned Hall Of Famers are every bit as great as the more modern era players on your list.
RIP to these two legends 😢
Truly a great guy
I just finished “Pitch by Pitch”. Must read !!!
The greatest pitcher I ev÷r got to see pitch,along with Sandy Koufax!
how great he was
Both Gone. So Sad. Bob probably Undoubtably Top 10 Pitcher in History.
Gibson and Ryan both were incredibly competitive. They gave nothing away. They wanted the ball.
Back when black men actually spoke like adults instead of some street thugs. And nobody was as badass as Bob Gibson.
I'll take a team batting average of .220 as long I know that Bob Gibson Juan Marichal , Sandy Koufax, Whitey Ford, Warren Spahn. were the starting five on the team. That's three lefties as well.
what about Bob feller, Pedro Martinez, and Nolan Ryan?
And I would put Tom Seaver and Jim Palmer on that staff as 6 & 7 in the rotation, if that could ever possible. Another 2 of the all time great starting pitchers in baseball.
Don’t forget Steve Carlton , another left handed Hall of Famer .
Greatness in a person. Aaron, Mays, Musial, Williams, Gibson, Spahn, Koufax. Giants among mortals
They changed the height of the mound because of Bob Gibson. He was terrifying, and great. An entire season with a 1.12 ERA. That is dominant. In the broadcast booth, he seems like a nice guy. On the mound, not so much.
Wow now they're both gone. RIP to the 67 Cardinals legends
Old school baseball ❤️
There's the difference. These guys thought team and today's players think....ME!
These guys were total class.
Good pitchers will dominate once in awhile. Gibson did it almost every time out and when he dominated, he DOMINATED.
Two giants of the game.
Legends!
How sweet
my god this is legend
PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!
The pitchers from the era of Gibson, Carlton, Ferguson Jenkins. Tom Weaver and so many more were much better pitchers and athletes as opposed to pitchers of today. The pitchers of the past would pitch 15-25 complete games a year win or lose. The pitchers of today do not even pitch 15-25 complete games during their whole career.
I agree to a point.....but todays players lift weights have their own personal chefs etc.....its crazy back then 90 percent of all players had to have off season jobs to survive now all the players today work out in their private gyms at home with their trainers in the off season..... back then the players were told lifting weights was bad for you as far as slowing you down etc....I think the pitchers of today are going up against better more in shape hitters.....
The pitching mound was significantly higher in the 1960s. It helped their pitching and their arms. See the Denny McClain interview about the impact of lowering the mound and the increase in pitcher injuries that resulted.
@@jamesmmahoney link please?
@@jamescooper3571 ruclips.net/video/z7Jij5eqsfs/видео.html
@@jamesmmahoney Thanks, James.
Give me one pitcher to go in game 7 of the World Series, I'll take Bob Gibson.
As a Tigers fan who remembers 1968 (and was at game 5), I'd recommend Mickey Lolich for game 7. But Bob Gibson wasn't so bad in his first 2 starts. 🙂
Watching these two is what made me a lifelong Cardinals fan. Even now, when I think of the Redbirds, my first mental image of McCarver running out to the mound to shake Gibby's hand. To me, they were the heart and soul of the team.
Both baseball legends...
Bob Gibson was from a time that pitchers pitched entire games.
Today's pitchers can't compare.
To Gibson, Marachal, Ford and Koufax.
Bob Gibson was a very talented pitcher. Being a Braves fan was tough if we drew Mr. Gibson. We didn't win much in those days, and it might have been easier to just go ahead and mark games against Tim McCarver and Bob Gibson in the lost column.
Bob was amazing
Class
I only wish I had seen him pitch. And I also wonder what his average top fast ball was. He pitched before speed guns of course. It seemed he had a hell of a fast ball.
Bob Gibson is a #Boss
I met Tim
McCarver once. He was a very nice person.
May this battery RIP ❤.
This footage is literally baseball history. Such a valuable video to see these all-time greats explaining their craft. I bet that announcer was sweating through this one.
Now they're in Heaven together with Ken Boyer!
Two greats for sure. Just glad my Tigers beat them in '68! May they RIP.
FYI so dominate was he they actually lowered the pitching mound after his record season in 1968 top that! You might say he was the GOAT!