Tyler The Creator calls out ian for being a CULTURE VULTURE 😬
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"mocking" gucci mane 😭😭sxprano was HEAVILY inspired by zaytoven in his beats. Ian dont rap like gucci or future at all.
And Zaytoven was literally inspired by Gucci mane and incorporated his stylistic choices. He absolutely is mocking aspects of Gucci mane, whether he realizes it or not. Dude uses his whiteness as a way to gain popularity and exploit the culture, while dudes who do and have been doing that same subgenre years before he even started and at a substantially higher level then him don't. This is absolutely culture vulture activity on steroids.
I been sayin for a min that if you gonna make soulless, cookie cutter, wave riding music, at least make it enjoyable
Millions of people enjoy his music
so many ppl make meaningless music these days. why’s it different for this guy
@@rkelzv Many people indeed make music that could be considered "meaningless," but the issue with Ian isn't just about the content's substance. The problem arises from how Ian's approach to music can be perceived as appropriating and mocking a culture from which he significantly benefits. While it's true that many artists create songs without deep lyrical meaning, Ian's specific angle-leveraging stereotypes of a culture he doesn't belong to-adds a layer of complexity that goes beyond just making "meaningless music."
This isn't simply a matter of being "different" or exploring diverse musical styles. The critique centers around his presentation and how he uses cultural markers and themes not from a place of respect or understanding but as a superficial gimmick to stand out. The concern isn't about having passion or being different but about the ethics of how he navigates and profits from a genre deeply intertwined with the cultural and racial experiences of another community.
In contrast, when artists genuinely engage with cultures different from their own, they often do so with a sense of appreciation and respect, acknowledging their influences rather than using them as a mere backdrop for their persona. It's about authenticity and understanding, ensuring that the exploration of different musical landscapes isn't done at the expense of the very cultures that created them.
I disagree man. You think these young underground rappers care about the history of the rap game. No they don’t they r just having fun making music.
@@Bluurji A lot of them absolutely do. In fact, I'd say most underground artists know a bit about the history of rap or have learned it at some level, because they genuinely care about the craft.
I remember a time when Tyler didn’t care about what other people are doing with their rap careers. Bro is talking like an oldhead
Are we remembering two completely different Tylers? I remember Tyler sayin a bunch of other crazy, off the wall stuff directly to artists like telling Iggy Azalea her whole body is fake, telling Eminem he sucks, and whatnot. Tyler has always been extremely vocal about who he doesn't like.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 He usually lets people do their thing unless they come at him in some kind of way. Tyler calling out Ian is pointless because what is he gonna do now? Quit music because Tyler said so. I like Tyler’s music & I’ve never heard an Ian song but that dude didn’t have to rap about crazy shit to get to where he’s at unlike Tyler who doesn’t fw half of his own discography, I remember the Iggy & Eminem stuff & that was wack af too which he even apologized to both of them for because he actually doesn’t hate them
@@GizmosHouse There's a few problems with Ian. Before I even say anything, it's worth noting that Ian has rich parents who paid for his studio time and hired a producer to create most of his music, and they also paid bloggers and TikTok influencers to hype him up. Just know that's the background he's coming from beforehand. The problem isn't just that he relies on his wealth and connections; it's that he makes a joke out of the contrast between his privileged background and the culture from which hip-hop originates.
Typically, I’m skeptical when accusations of cultural appropriation are thrown around carelessly. However, listening to Ian for even five minutes highlights exactly what Tyler, the Creator, and others criticize. Ian emulates a sound so inauthentically that it feels like an AI trying to rap about a lifestyle it hasn’t experienced. His schtick seems to be, "Isn't it funny that I'm a white guy making this music?" There's a big difference between appreciating the art of another culture and mocking it for novelty’s sake.
There are many white rappers who earn respect within hip-hop because they contribute genuinely and without caricature. Hip-hop is closely tied to cultural and racial identities, and when artists use the genre to mock these identities, it’s understandable why people are upset. The history of Black culture being exploited in America, especially in music genres like rock and roll, fuels this frustration.
This criticism isn't solely about Ian's race. Tyler, the Creator, is a fan of Eminem, a white rapper. The issue with Ian is his complete adoption of hip-hop culture without acknowledging its roots. His entire gimmick is based on being a wealthy white kid in a genre born from Black experiences. He parades this contrast as his main appeal, which many see as a mockery of hip-hop.
While there’s nothing inherently wrong with white rappers, the problem arises when mediocrity is celebrated simply due to race. The music industry often pushes white rappers because they attract audiences that may not engage with Black artists, thus replicating a pattern of cultural exploitation.
Ian raps about struggles he hasn't experienced, glorifying aspects of Black culture in a way that feels cringe-worthy. Everyone has the right to critique this as disrespectful. This isn't about imprisoning him or preventing him from making music, but about recognizing when something feels wrong and speaking up about it.
Anyone who doesn’t respect the history and culture of hip-hop while profiting from it is deserving of criticism. Engaging in an art form demands at least a basic understanding and respect for its origins. Many great artists challenge and evolve past traditions, but they do so with an understanding of what came before. Given that hip-hop's origins are still within living memory, disregarding this tradition isn’t rebellious-it’s disrespectful.
Ian’s music feels like a shallow imitation, lacking genuine personality or innovation. Artists like Yeat borrow from predecessors but develop their unique style and acknowledge their influences, creating a natural evolution of sound. Ian, on the other hand, seems to use his whiteness as a gimmick, which is why his approach can be seen as audio blackface.
Even if his track “Hate Me” with Lil Yachty showed some confidence, the fear remains that artists like Ian could overshadow Black artists in the genre, similar to what happened with rock and roll. Tyler’s critique isn’t about Ian’s music being unserious; it's about the uncomfortable reality of a white guy adopting a black aesthetic for profit without contributing anything original.
Rap is more than just a musical style-it’s a cultural narrative. People are free to make any music they choose, but without respecting its roots, it feels exploitative. Just as a painter might study Renaissance art to understand their craft better, a rapper should engage with the history and culture of hip-hop, especially when it’s a genre so closely linked to cultural identity and history.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 I’m not fucking reading all that bro, have a nice day
@@GizmosHousesince of your attention span,
tldr : Ian should not make music about coming from the underground when he's rich cause it disrespectful
Tyler is becoming the same old head he would’ve hated in his younger years
So true honestly
You're clearly white 😂
Ian is a culture vulture
Lol What? Young Tyler literally would say the exact same shit about ian, except he'd crash out on him and call him a trash, garbage culture vulture to his face, and then directly tweet at him that he's going to smash his mom or something. 😂😂😂😂
He's not. Tyler absolutely loves trap. He has a very legitimate point. Tyler has always respected the art form, even in his early, wild days. It seems like there's a misunderstanding about the critique here. The concern isn't about Ian being a white man making rap music or exploring a different style. The issue is about how Ian presents himself and his music, which some people feel lacks authenticity and respect for the culture that created the genre. It's not simply about being different; it's about how that difference is portrayed and perceived.
Rap and hip-hop have deep roots in Black culture, and there's a historical context that comes with the genre. When artists like Ian, who aren't from this culture, enter the space, it can feel to some that they're not honoring the traditions and struggles that the genre often represents. The criticism often revolves around the perception that Ian's music feels more like a caricature or parody rather than a genuine expression. It's about how his style might come off as imitative without adding meaningful innovation or depth that respects the genre's history.
Ultimately, the conversation around Ian isn't about limiting artistic expression. It's about ensuring that the art form is treated with the respect it deserves, especially when it has been so significant to the cultural identity and history of the Black community. The problem isn't just that he relies on his wealth and connections; it's that he makes a joke out of the contrast between his privileged background and the culture from which hip-hop originates.
Typically, I’m skeptical when accusations of cultural appropriation are thrown around carelessly. However, listening to Ian for even five minutes highlights exactly what Tyler, the Creator, and others criticize. Ian emulates a sound so inauthentically that it feels like an AI trying to rap about a lifestyle it hasn’t experienced. His schtick seems to be, "Isn't it funny that I'm a white guy making this music?" There's a big difference between appreciating the art of another culture and mocking it for novelty’s sake. There are many white rappers who earn respect within hip-hop because they contribute genuinely and without caricature.
Hip-hop is closely tied to cultural and racial identities, and when artists use the genre to mock these identities, it’s understandable why people are upset. The history of Black culture being exploited in America, especially in music genres like rock and roll, fuels this frustration. This criticism isn't solely about Ian's race. Tyler, the Creator, is a fan of Eminem, a white rapper. The issue with Ian is his complete adoption of hip-hop culture without acknowledging its roots.
His entire gimmick is based on being a wealthy white kid in a genre born from Black experiences. He parades this contrast as his main appeal, which many see as a mockery of hip-hop. While there’s nothing inherently wrong with white rappers, the problem arises when mediocrity is celebrated simply due to race. The music industry often pushes white rappers because they attract audiences that may not engage with Black artists, thus replicating a pattern of cultural exploitation. Ian raps about struggles he hasn't experienced, glorifying aspects of Black culture in a way that feels cringe-worthy.
Everyone has the right to critique this as disrespectful. This isn't about imprisoning him or preventing him from making music, but about recognizing when something feels wrong and speaking up about it. Anyone who doesn’t respect the history and culture of hip-hop while profiting from it is deserving of criticism. Engaging in an art form that is inextricably tied to black culture demands at least a basic understanding and respect for its origins. Many great artists challenge and evolve past traditions, but they do so with an understanding of what came before. Given that hip-hop's origins are still within living memory, disregarding this tradition isn’t rebellious-it’s disrespectful.Ian’s music feels like a shallow imitation, lacking genuine personality or innovation.
Artists like Yeat borrow from predecessors but develop their unique style and acknowledge their influences, creating a natural evolution of sound. Ian, on the other hand, seems to use his whiteness as a gimmick, which is why his approach can be seen as audio blackface.Even if his track “Hate Me” with Lil Yachty showed some confidence, the fear remains that artists like Ian could overshadow Black artists in the genre, similar to what happened with rock and roll. Tyler’s critique isn’t about Ian’s music being unserious; it's about the uncomfortable reality of a white guy adopting a black aesthetic for profit without contributing anything original.Rap is more than just a musical style-it’s a cultural narrative. People are free to make any music they choose, but without respecting its roots, it feels exploitative. Just as a painter might study Renaissance art to understand their craft better, a rapper should engage with the history and culture of hip-hop, especially when it’s a genre so closely linked to cultural identity and history.
this is dumb he’s just making music, it’s just a white man stepping into a different type of rap, but if a black man decided to rap like eminem it wouldn’t mean shit. both make music and have a ton of passion for what they do, hating on someone for being different in 2024 crazy work
Ian doesn't have passion that much tho he's famous rn
@@Kencartood1wtf does it matter if he doesn’t have as much passion as someone else?
@@Kencartood1bro everyone lacks passion these days. why we mad cuz he’s white 😑
@@rihzzzz is doesn't matter I just talking
@@evanhughes3421 These are horrible arguments. It seems like there's a misunderstanding about the critique here. The concern isn't about Ian being a white man making rap music or exploring a different style. The issue is about how Ian presents himself and his music, which some people feel lacks authenticity and respect for the culture that created the genre. It's not simply about being different; it's about how that difference is portrayed and perceived.
Rap and hip-hop have deep roots in Black culture, and there's a historical context that comes with the genre. When artists like Ian, who aren't from this culture, enter the space, it can feel to some that they're not honoring the traditions and struggles that the genre often represents. The criticism often revolves around the perception that Ian's music feels more like a caricature or parody rather than a genuine expression. It's about how his style might come off as imitative without adding meaningful innovation or depth that respects the genre's history.
The comparison to a Black rapper emulating Eminem misses the mark because Eminem himself respects the roots and struggles embedded in rap culture, even while innovating, and his whole style was directly inspired by Masta Ace and Chino XL, who are both artists that are Black/Puerto Rican with African American Descent. Eminem quite literally emulated their style on top of a bunch of other black rappers. He literally stated this in multiple interviews and gives homage to them. It's less about race and more about whether an artist's work acknowledges and respects the genre's origins. While Ian might have genuine passion for his music, the way it is received by the audience can differ based on how it's perceived. The critique isn't necessarily about his passion but about how that passion is expressed and whether it aligns with the values and history of the genre.
Ultimately, the conversation around Ian isn't about limiting artistic expression. It's about ensuring that the art form is treated with the respect it deserves, especially when it has been so significant to the cultural identity and history of the Black community.
Ppl say its hating etc. because they dont get how culturally and spiritually tied in we are to hip-hop, and the natural desire to protect it from the fake. to them it's just another genre to listen too. The problem wit ian to me is he portraying gangsta and hard with his lyrics but tryna act preppy and typical suburb white with his looks it's kinda cheating cuz a black man rapping those things doesn't have the privilege of not looking "street" or "hood" to people who stereotype us
There’s hella fake rappers that aren’t white tho
Preach
@@andy2641 they get called out all the time, but tyler calls ian out and everybody mad, and defending ian. Hmmmm. Wonder why......
@@andy2641not the point
@@wakeuptrell the double standards yall project and excuse is CRAZY! Miss me with this bullsh*t take. 🥱😴
Ngl this the same dude who said you should be able to make whatever you want and not to listen to people who don’t like it so it’s kinda weird that he’s talking shit.
He's referring to people who actually cares about their craft. Ian literally don't care at all bro is a plant.
Totally different cause what Ian doing is hurting the art form in itself, what Tyler is saying by that is that you should be your self and not try to imitate or mock what you should be loving
It's not talking shit tho. It's just the truth
@@Techdeckshawty exactly! dude lame asl
foh he ain’t a real artist just another meme ass mf
this is extremally ironic since most of tyler fans are white teenagers so idk what he is crying about
exactly you don't know what he's trying to say you think he's just attacking his skin color
@@Jupiter-zl9of so his white fans can look up to tyler and be inspired by him but if ian looks up to gucci mane and is influenced by him its mocking the culture?
if im getting this wrong please enlighten me cause this is definitely what i got from the video
theyre emulating tyler someone in his own lane not other hiphop artists what do you expect fans to do the only problem with ian is that its just typical cap rap and yes i hate everyone else who caps raps too cause it all sounds the same
hoodplant is probably the most accurate thing and it sounds funny asl
@@aintnow4y yes because Tyler doesn't rap like he's from the hood Tyler is a story teller his music is to paint a image or character gucci manes music is very specific to where he was raised Ian isn't from there which is why people are mad its not his culture to rap about or take imagery from
AND ONE MORE THING. The thing thats most egregious is, y’all like to put black rappers into the mix like ‘oh if Jace or whoever like osamason was making the same music Ian does y’all would’ve gobbled that shit up’. Black rappers have been making the sound, PIONEERED the sound WAY before Ian, but now everyone’s only heard of Ian. Why? BECAUSE HES WHITE AND HE KNOWS IT and he’s actively using his attribute to try to scavenge the rap scene like a vulture
where was this energy when he had drake perform at his festival lmfao
Drake is half black and at least acts like he likes hiphop stop
@@mrlofi333 acting like drake isn't the biggest culture vulture of all time just to bash ian is insane
@@mrlofi333drake the biggest culture vulture
People didnt care to see drake because frank ocean was rumored to be there. Sorry but tyler fans do not care about seeing drake when they all thought frank would be there.
@@infrared6973 not the argument i was making at all but true
Feel like Ian had a genuine come up and has passion for the game, has a ton of underground singles before valedictorian which is the only project of his that you can consider meme status. I honestly see him and Tyler meeting up and squashing this in the future tbh.
I mean honestly half the rappers out rn aren’t doing the shit they’re rapping about anyways I don’t see the problem here. Ian’s flow is better than half of them anyways it his own style that hasn’t really been seen and he’s getting money why would he stop doing this if he’s getting a bag for it who the fuck cares don’t listen to him if it makes u that annoyed
He could also speak about Mabu
but, he isnt mocking rap music at all? hes clearly making the music for the music? do modern UG artists with the exact same sound not mock it tho? caus he white? and doesnt dress like a bum or carry that ignorant persona? you can tell ian has a love for the music, its not mocking, he just making music and yall r going crazy bc its a white person that doesnt make punk rock. music is culture, culture is shared, culture has no colour, ian is making music for the SOUND.
The cope
You don’t understand
@@dae1396 nothing to understand you're just gatekeeping
@@laquoiagatekeeping is good when others let anybody in, this ain’t love it’s pale imitation look at how he did yachty’s walk out it was terrible just like his music yeat cool Ian isn’t so how are people racist if no one cares about yeat being white I’ll tell you it’s because one isn’t trying he just so happens to be white, black rappers get called trash too
Bro he literally bigged up mac and Eminem, he's talking about Ian just treating rap like a giant meme. It's not serious to him. His album cover is literally a fuckin meme dude
I feel like what he said casted a wide net and ian fit the bill, I guess. Lil Mabu fits better but it’s not at anyone directly at all
I think Ian is just having fun but I don’t think Tyler sees it that way and honestly I think that the newer generation loving Ian is probably bothering him more than Ian’s actual music. I grew up on Tyler and he’s just passionate that’s just how he’s always been he’s gonna say what he really thinks. I don’t agree with him really but I love that he’s as passionate as he is for rap and I ain’t mad at him for it. Ian is corny to me though no matter how much that yachty song goes. I bump it and cringe at the same time 😂 never listened to his other stuff though I just know how most preppy kids like him think cause I grew up around them and he just probably thinks it sounds cool and wants to fit in and there’s probably no ill intentions. Could be wrong though idk him
Maybe I would understand Tyler’s take if Ian was rapping about things like selling drugs, shootouts, robbing people, and growing up in the hood type things… but… Ian doesn’t rap about things like that nor does he try to put off that he had a hard upcoming or he’s “gangsta”. I mean just look at his last album cover. He’s open about his upbringing and doesn’t try to hide the fact that he’s a suburban white kid and id say he actually uses this as a big part of his image. He’s makes the kind of music that he likes and a lot of other people including myself enjoy the music that he puts out. Someone explain to me what’s wrong with that?
how is so much dirty money i need hand sanitizer not a drug bar??? he touch my guy we mortal kombat finish him? like those are obviously in reference to drugs and shootouts lmao not seeing your point at all he’s literally doing exactly what ur talking bout
@@itihasp He a fan 😂😂
Yeah that's why he's tryna be Yeat 💀 but he a plant so he didn't have to work hard and build his own genre of music.
@@TwizzySharkofc "twizzyshark" is saying that😂 yeat glazers r funny asf
@@itihasp you think that white people don’t shoot people too?
Bro got famous by eating a cockroach…js
???????????
@@kingmilmiceustalking about the Yonkers music video
He sounds nothing like future or gucci mane, if anyone he’s copied yeat and he’s a white guy lmao
Yeat was directly inspired by future and Gucci mane, and both future and year draw from stylistic aspects of Gucci Mane. Ian absolutely borrows from aspects from future, and yeat, who both specifically take aspects from Gucci Mane.
Tyler the creator must’ve forgot how he came up and the hate he garnered at the time.
Tyler still had a massive following/respect from the black community. Every kid who was into skateboarding in the context of black culture, which dates back to Luke and even before that loved Tyler.
Ian isnt taking the Hood image seriously, just was a good move to polarize
Remeber when Tyler’s target audience was corny white kids and stole the whole slim shady persona
His target audience was also black kids that didn’t fit in bc there too black for the white and too white for the black. Breaking stereotypes
Exactly he had nothin to do with street/ hood raps at all he was being him, Ian also has nothing to do with street/ hood raps but he does rap like it and it sucks for the most part so why not make music that is true to you that’s how you make the best music and you wouldn’t be verbally cosplaying because he just does what lil mabu does but he’s taken a bit more seriously. Everyone is influenced but when you create half hearted filth as a result just make art from your own experience that’s what Tyler did not Ian so far
@@Rhino-qy6xv Tyler had a huge black audience of black people that were his target audience. White people just caught on a little later. The black skateboarding demographic was and still is a huge part of hip hop culture all the way back to the days of Lupe Fiasco, and that's mainly who they finally felt represented by with someone like Tyler. White kids caught on after alongside the rest of the black community. He's always had a black audiences who have listened to his music.
@@R33M-l2k He did have intersection with street/hood raps. He represented a lot of us black folks in the hood who were into skateboarding and whatnot. He was doing collaborations and features with hella street artist, and there were tons of references specifically related to black culture. Mans literally got popular for rapping with Pusha T lol. Backpack rap was and still is still a huge part of black culture.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 this is just false and not true
Respectfully I agree with Tyler, ian's authenticity ain't really that real, his whole thing is the white guy who comes from a rich family, but is talking about all this stuff in his lyrics. The problem isn't exactly his music its just what he's rapping about and how he delivers it, he doesn't bring anything real new to rap, and he definitely isn't really improving it like that.
You gotta react to Baby 5 by Bigbabygucci. It still has some issues like some mixing miscalculations here and there but I think it is his most consistently good album yet, even better than When You Wake Up.
where is the playboi carti homicide555 reaction
Who says that Ian dont have genuine love for rap. I aint his biggest fan but who can tell u if u got that shi in your heart or nah.
Get off your knees
@@mrlofi333fytb liking ur own comment
Don’t know if he’s genuine for rap, but i don’t see him bringing anything new to the genre like most rapper does. Instead, i see him making a couple underground records and just abandon rap and switch genres like every other white artist does
It's true that we can't see into Ian's heart to know his true feelings about rap, but we can assess his actions and public persona, which suggest a more superficial engagement with the genre. Rap is deeply rooted in Black culture, originating from experiences of struggle, resistance, and resilience. It's not just about liking the music; it's about understanding and respecting its cultural significance.
Ian’s approach to rap has been criticized because he seems to prioritize aesthetic and commercial appeal over engaging with the cultural and historical complexities of the genre. By not addressing or acknowledging the roots of rap, Ian is largely treating the genre like a stylistic choice rather than a powerful form of expression born from specific social and historical contexts. This can make his professed love for rap seem disingenuous or lacking in depth. Artists like Yeat borrow from predecessors but develop their unique style and acknowledge their influences, creating a natural evolution of sound. Ian, on the other hand, seems to use his whiteness as a gimmick, which is why his approach can be seen as audio blackface.
When an artist from outside the culture, like Ian, enters the space of rap without demonstrating a meaningful understanding of its origins and significance, it can appear as though they're more interested in capitalizing on the genre's popularity rather than contributing authentically. If Ian truly loved rap, he would engage with it in a way that shows respect for its roots and acknowledges its cultural importance, rather than focusing solely on image and marketability.
While Ian might enjoy rap music, the way he engages with it publicly doesn’t necessarily reflect a genuine appreciation for its cultural depth and significance. His actions and artistic choices speak volumes and suggest a lack of genuine connection with the genre’s historical and cultural roots.
@@prodangela I never liked my own comment WTF
ian trying to imitate gucci manes whole production style and the fact that he doesnt look or sound like he has any real passion in anything he raps about. not to mention the fake accents bruh that shit is jus corny
Ian is an example of what you should not be making music for!
Music for an expression of yourself and not just a cash grab of someone else’s talent!
Ian sounds like yeat
It isn’t IAN he’s hating I think it’s the kid with the glasses
I don’t think he’s talking about Ian but idk. His comparisons make more sense with yeat because he does the future/thug kinda flow but I don’t think that mockery . I feel like the only artist to really mock “the culture” and make it far was like 69 or lil pump.
Least obvious ian promo. Y'all are so gullible
Ian adds no value to the culture that is HipHop. He is a GUEST in the culture. Hès not innovative like Eminem/Mac miller etc...Ian is cosplaying and yall are defending under the guise of its just music. HipHop is a BLACK genre and WILL always remain that way.
This made me look back and reflect
4:51 You can be from any background and be influenced by a particular artist or genre in one way or another. I can also understand making rap or hip hop and being white for instance.
Though it need to be said, context matters and that context derives from the cultural environment.
If you're not apart of the culture, then all context is lost or at least muddled.
Just let people create music god damn.
It could’ve been ian or lil mabu
listen to tha new rich amiri it’s his best song in a while
Every time I see Tyler talk about music he acts so snobbish “heh this isn’t real music back in my day this would never do numbers” like nobody gives af unc
ian hopped oj the yeat wave put his lil twist on it and thats all i see is a gimmick artist
bigbabygucci - baby5 when?
who is ian😭
They trying to make another lil mabu basically ian. Mabu is better :>
mabu was better, his new stuff is bad
this man Tyler turned into the bitter hating “old head” that he riled against so much back in the OF days and now all of a sudden it’s cool?! nawwww gtfoh
He’s not bitter he just cares.
@@dae1396 if sitting on his high horse while he criticizes the next artist for literally being influenced the same exact way he himself was influenced is what you call “caring,” I honestly feel bad for you bruh. I remember when Tyler was first coming up, he used to HAAAAATE when his elder generations gate-kept the way a new rapper was “supposed” to be. Fast forward to today and now he’s gatekeeping the art form and y’all excuse it by saying: “hE jUsT cArEs”?!?!…..😑 GTFO
@@KevinJXT38 you should watch the rest of the interview if you haven't. Tyler talks about the entire direction society has gone, and the way things are combined with what he was talking about with Ian makes it make more sense.
@@mewxtwo naw believe me, I saw the whole interview…what he was saying still just didn’t resonate with me personally and I don’t believe the rest of what he was saying excuses him literally being a flat out hater and hypocrite for no valid reason.
@@KevinJXT38Tyler hated how people wanted him to conform to the typical rapper while Ian raps like a typical trash rapper but in no way visually presents himself as one, he sounds like he don't care and he looks like the kind of person to not try as a rapper, and he doesn't try or care so Tyler hating because he said its bad
FINALLY
I bump both, I fuck with both of them. that’s Tyler’s pov, i don’t see it as weird from Tyler. He said what he said, people are going to cause an uproar cause of what he said. the internet be stretching shit for no reason, just think about it Tyler the Creator is talking about Ian 🤣. That’s a win for him. You gotta deal with criticism in the rap game, a lot of people can’t deal with that.
Exactly, shit is wack
hate this kingmil guy he jus racist towards white ppl, cuz a lot of black rappers in the game are not hood at all and also take inspiration from ppl like gucci mane. drake is the prime example of cosplaying like hes from the hood, but hes not and kingmil dont make videos on that
Okay mr white mustache
@@kingmilmiceus am i lying king mil
Hip-hop is fried in general I stay on the good side of the underground @@mrwhitemustache9035
stop watching buddy
Nah he not racist towards white people, but i am. Yo who the fuck needs to talk about DRAKE?! When everyone already AGREES AND KNOWS he’s a culture vulture? There’s no debate in that. But now a new white boy is popping and people are audaciously defending him so of course he’s gonna talk about it
damn
Ian goin up.. tyler old ass irrelevant
He is not irrelevant😭
How Old You Is Molly?
@@prodangela nobody actively listens to tyler bro, u might have his music on a playlist but thats nostalgia and maybe its a hit, noone keeps up to date with his ass
@@yehudi-jehuah yes the man who has millions of teenagers listening to him and has 34 million monthly listeners is irrelevant 😂
@@yehudi-jehu thats just u