People be scared of satellite cameras recording them from thousands of km and forget that they have a camera constantly pointing at them and a microphone in their phone
Funny you point that out, every had a conversation about something that you don't talk about every day, then you start getting adds trying to sell you something related to what you just talked about?
My concern (speaking as a Network engineer and security admin) is that there is already a profound amount of apathy towards personal privacy. People take very little, if any, precautions to protect their privacy as it is, so unfortunately I can see most people also not caring about the ever-increasing resolution of satellite photography.
It's hard to avoid being tracked, most phone apps require GPS enabled for example, and 5g repeaters can detect biometric signatures even if you don'thave your phone on. Communist china has perfected social tracking and their model is the beta test for other governments
I guess people feel like their lives are too boring to draw attention to. I walk from my house to my workplace most days, and then back again, and occasionally to the shop to pick up some food. Big revelation. It's the same with the internet; google knows that I like gaming, camping and cat videos, and amazon knows that I like buying dishwasher tablets, toothpaste and shower gel. Big wow.
Most countries don't use their Spy satellites on them selves... That is often considered a waste of time, especially when you consider the logistics and time that goes into operating a satellite, they're also not designed to track small targets like individuals because of their limitations (like latency and bandwidth and observation time) its difficult regardless of the resolution (higher resolution also means higher latency and even slower return on images)
People find every reason to give the government more top-down control. Any apperent "catastophy" = clearly they need more power. Any problem maker or crime exists = clearly they need more power so they can punish him. Not to mention that the goal is to punish the person after the damage has already been done. Kinda illogical way to run a system. As compared to trying to prevent crime instead of punishing after it already happened... not even primary goal of reform... primary goal of punishment.
As a US Navy veteran, I can almost guarantee that if they say "one meter", the Military has gotten it down to one millimeter. I was on the USS Ranger, CV61, for it's last cruise, 1993. They did a speed trial. A blade on the port, outboard propeller was bent, so at top speed the whole 1,000 ft long ship shook like it was about to come apart. They advertised that top speed was around 35 knots. It went 51 knots with the bent blade. "Hotel 61" was the last oil-fired carrier in the US fleet. It's anchored in the ship boneyard off Washington state, unless it's already been turned into razor blades 🤣
Then they can many diagnose skin conditions and head lice! Wooppee!! Satellites in LEO are moving so fast, I don't think they can track a looting event very long. No worries for street-level camera sales yet.
I think this really comes down to intel, limited resources and what they choose to spend that time on with the spying. Pretty sure they aren't looking in on your pathetic backyard BBQ family reunion or haystack in a field romp too closely unless you are a big enough threat to them in some way or you have a big enough pervert hacker in control who can get away with it. I am FAR more concerned with the devices used in everyday life listening in and tracking and recording all your moves and the A.I. being used to access the average timing of your shits, pisses, farts, orgasms, travel habits and sleep schedules plus every word you've ever said or typed since they ramped up the tech. Be thankful they can't read your thoughts...yet.
as a non-veteran i agree with you. in the movie "enemy of the state" which stars gene hackman, jon voight and will smith, hackman says an interesting thing. he says any technology you see used in a movie or on tv is about 10 years behind the reality of the capability of that technology. for some odd reason i tend to believe that statement! the profit motive is the reason for these oppressive, intrusive, overpriced monstrosities. even the "scientific" ones. if rich people didn't make money from them they wouldn't be built. ever notice how NOTHING gets done in the world unless the rich get richer from it? its why pollution, wars and poverty exists. they own everything. they control everything. they make all decisions for the rest of humanity. and humanity is kept blind, apathetic and stupid enough to let them do it.
Anyone who says "I've done nothing wrong so I have nothing to hide" with regards to privacy should try pooping with the door open at a public bathroom.
Bad analogy. We use privacy for the comfort of others as much as our own. Leaving the door open would be twisted exibitionism, and one should see a therapist if one was so inclined. If someone is going to SPY on me, then I'm not concerned with "offending" them. They're the one with the problem, not me. I have bigger fish to fry.
It’s not about boring. It’s about information and control. They want to know what everyone is doing at all times. So sure chalk it up to “boredom” but you’re being hella ignorant.
@@LeSkateWA oh they definitely are, they likely don't even need to use people to track people at all times. they can use ai and algorithms to record it all. Then at one point in the future, you say something they don't like, or are of a group/ethnicity/whatever other factor that future person or organization in control of this technology dislikes, they can just put your name, identity, or picture into a database search and they have a full history of everything you've ever done and are currently doing, and can do with it as they please.
They could but its not worth it financially. They rather focus on violent crimes and political enemies. Any authoritarian state of the past would be envious of what methods there are today. Everyone uses Smartphones and thus gives away where they are at all times, what they talk about etc. People even give away their data for free on social media. Satellites are the least of our concern. There is surveillance cams everywhere and agencies track everyones internet activities. The better the algorithms get the better the control of governments on their populations. So the biggest concern is actually authoritarian people that want to be put in power.
People constantly bring up the CIA, and NSA when it comes to the privacy discussion but no one ever mentions the NRO. The stuff those guys can see and listen to is absolutely mindblowing....cutting edge to the point of being spooky.
The NRO has no intelligence exploitation mission. They simple procure, build, design, launch, and manage satelites. They are essentially a logistical agency within the Intelligence Community. Your thinking of the NGA. The CIA has very little satelitte based intelligence mission.
@@arnorobinwerkman National Reconnaissance Office. They are the ones who send up the spy sattalites and monitor video and other data. There is a lot of videos of previous missions they have conducted in the past. Some of the equipment is very advanced. From what I have read and heard from diffrent interviews I've watched they can now see and basically listen to phones and hack internet from space.
The more terrifying thing that these illusions of a grand controller are masking is that there is no one in control.....its just little pockets of tyrants. There is no overarching control scheme. If there were, then why would you need to talk to 8 different people at the hall of records to get a copy of something of yours? Yeah. The terrible truth is no one knows whats going on, and most of us are just blustering our way through it all.....
Perhaps one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in a YT video: "There are potentially 11 different Hubbles out there. Imagine how much further we would be if they were used for science, not spying."
@patrickarsenault5201 let's see. Asteroids and meteors, solar flares, space debris, monitoring the ISS, looking for and determining life on other planets, all of which will and does have an effect on us.
I agree, but that's a "they", not a "we" Because "I" did not consent to this of my own free will, and "I" have no influence over industrial operations required to manufacture and launch a satellite, but "they" do
@@patrickarsenault5201 taking 12 hubbles instead of spy satellites as an example of spending these huge amounts of money into other than conflicts and wars, that is the point i guess
I wear a gown made of metallic fabric that morphs me into looking like a dairy cow as seen from space. Yes, it does look ridiculous for a dairy cow to go in and out of Macdonaldsand come out eating a BigMac. Working on it😢.
They can target with perfect accuracy anyone on earth, but whenever there's alleged alien sightings, from the same or similar distance its so bad its like that the image was taken by a potato!!
The most interesting pictures are the ones taken of Australia, it is quite comic to see the Ozzies waking around upside down like flies on a lightbulb!
What our leaders and billionaires are doing in broad daylight for everyone to see should be far more troubling than what can be seen from space by anyone in particular.
I appreciate this video, because now I plan to occasionally pause in the middle of my day, glance upwards, and raise the appropriate finger to the sky with a big smile. Whether anyone actually catches that is irrelevant. The point is that they MIGHT.
When I'm outside at night and the copper choppa is out terrorising the neighbourhoods 'probs for weed grow locations;; I always give a complimentry FU MOON.
@@drusuffabadly4046 Had to laugh when I read that. Last month or so, I've heard a rather large chopper going overhead, same time every night. We have a little bird that visits our county hospital now and again, but this one sounds larger. Been wondering what he was up to, your comment might have given me some insight, LOL.
What worries me is not necessarily privacy in this case, but the amount of wasted resources on silly wars and unfriendliness between countries. It was super difficult to send 1 Hubble up there, and to think that there are 11 other "Hubbles" just for spying is infuriating and depressing.
I had a related thought. When we landed on the moon, it was a military missions disguised as a scientific one. Today, if you wanted to do a scientific mission to the moon, you would likely have to disguise it as a military mission for it to be successful.
...do you know WHY you're able to sit safely at your desk and play "keyboard quarterback" in relative safety making silly comments like this? Because your government spent billions on this technology to prevent something horrible from happening. I worked in this industry. Let me reassure you, you are not safe, but are kept so because of the 24 hour a day work of thousands of people who develop and use this technology. Rest easy in your ignorance...
I can remember in the 90’s of the military having a camera so sharp that you can tell the brand of a cigarettes box siting on a picnic table. Anything the government can do is told to the public 20+ years later.
Peter Jennings, some time before 2005. At the beginning of one of his nightly broadcasts. He threw out a hook to keep us watching by saying like, at exactly 6:58 and 30 sec. The Government has decided to let us see the capability of one of the latest spy satellite. Yeah, I got hooked. The last add block played. They came back from break silently with a satellite view of the Americas. Zoomed on to North America. Zoomed to Florida. Zoomed to Orlando area. Zoomed to Disney world. Zoomed to a couple sitting on a park bench. Zoomed to the Mans left arm as he was looking at his ticking analog watch, hands at 6:58. As the second hand jumped to 30 sec. Panned back out a bit They both looked up into the sky and smiled together. I remember the dramatic effect. Not a sound...News was over. We could see the minutes segmented on the dial and the brand of watch. Her eyes I even think were blue. If you knew them, you would have recognized them. Astrum , I enjoyed your presentation. But if you ever do a redo. That over 19 year old footage I'm sure is archived. I would enjoy seeing it again. Rest in Peace Peter Jennings. And condolences to his family. He passed in 2005 of lung cancer.
Its cute how A) you dont give an altitude so your claim is anecdotal at best, and B) you are apparently so unfamiliar with cigarette PACKS (not box, pack) that its amazing to you that they can be differentiated at great distance. Trust me, as a smoker, Its easy to look across a quad and see whos the edgy hipster with the lucky strikes.....
You are correct. In the early 90´s a friend working at the CIA described being able to identify if a coin was head or tails from one of their satellites.
@@SublimeSynth That's a valid concern, but bashing people who like to look at the sky isn't going to gain you any sympathy. Quite the opposite in fact. He gave no indication that he believes it's all about him.... you, on the other hand.....
I saw a fresh release of starlink satellites a couple of weeks ago.... they were still pretty tight, in their "string of pearls" configuration. While I am concerned about "traffic congestion", and the plight of astronomers, it is quite an awesome sight!
I don’t see satellites as a privacy issue as much as i do cameras and microphones. That the gov doesn’t sue meta into non existence over their use of microphones to listen to conversations is nuts to me. That posting random people online or subsequentely doxing them is not a criminal offense with extreme sentencing is nuts to me.
but i mean everyone is doxxed at least to an extent. your neighbors know where you live, the people who fix your toilet know where you live ect. shouldnt you be extremely worried that your neighbors all know where you live? best not to piss them off xd
Satellites are expensive, a much cheaper technology already exists that does the same thing, surveillance drones and phone tracking. Drones can hover around a city and collect the movement data of every person and car. It isn't spying on a specific person but all your historical data can be pulled if need be. And yes, phones can be tracked too but this requires people to physically have them so it's easily defeated.
Former Army. I was told by a signals NCO that he could go into his TOC and see initials he had written on a penny. Take whatever “they say” they can do and multiply by 100. Nobody voted for the surveillance state, we just woke up with cameras and license plate readers and stingray devices, etc., everywhere. They watch and listen constantly, then store the information. It’s not good.
i would want a refund on my tax dollars if the NSA wasn't collecting that data though, it's the sole mission of the NSA to data collect domestically, it's how we protect national security
@@GX-105D You are OK with EVERYTHING you've ever said and done on an electronic device being stored in a giant database THAT YOU CANT REVIEW OR USE and you pay for it? Every email, every search, every website, every download, every phone text and convo, everything youve ever done tracked and logged? GET THE FUCK OUT BOT
The biggest problem with all this data collection is that there is too much of it. Sure, they have every bit and bite you ever generated, but they can't sort through it. No one will ever see it unless you attract attention to yourself some other way.
Some way like protesting or doing something those in authority don’t like… You are right but “just don’t attract attention to yourself” isn’t an acceptable solution or end to the conversation to me. Also the technology for algorithms/neural networks/AI (or whatever you want to call it) to do the watching and build profiles of every single person will only improve.
The danger is that with the advancement of AI that is currently accelerating, the data collection can be assigned to AI which can use big data analytics to sort through those vast data sets, so regardless of whether or not a person brings attention to themselves, we’re all still vulnerable…
I am happy to have grown up in an age where I could look up and see only stars. I feel terrible for our children. We are taking the wonder out of the world.
@@jaredsilvers2782 The problem is actually neither of them when trying to see stars, but it's rather the light pollution reflected from the ground. The reason why I still haven't been able to ever see the Milky Way in my life. :(
In the mid 1970’s I worked for Hughes Aircraft in Los Angeles . I had a security clearance and my job included parts issuance for the building of spy satellites . I personally have seen photographs taken by these satellites . You could read the brand on a pack of cigarettes . Yes folks this was technology in the 1970’s, almost 50 years ago. It is staggering to imagine the advanced technology in place now.
I don’t believe you. The expiration of your security clearance does not authorize you to share classified information now - it is illegal. And issuing parts probably did not give you the Need to Know to see the resulting imagery, regardless if the keel of your clearance.
its illegal to do drugs and i do it everyday. its also illegal to lie in a court and most politicians do. you should better believe that there are some good guys around not covering the government...@@vanguard9067
@@JimBoom92 does that makes it right? The vast majority of politicians don’t engage in courtroom activities, so that statement is wring from that perspective, and how do you know they lie? And then you say that good guys are NOT covering the government - isn’t that contradicting the point you are trying to make?
The worst time I got that prickly feeling on the back of my neck, it was because there was noone around. I was on a trail on private land that had been clearcut some years before. The owner had replanted, but all of it with one kind of tree. I got about 15 minutes in when I felt that feeling. That was when I realized there were no sounds. I looked around and realized there was no underbrush, no birds or animals, not even insects. Spookiest place I have ever been. By the time I got to the other side, my pulse was skyrocketing, and it was all I could do not to start running.
Lack of diversity in the plants will cause a lack of diversity in the wildlife. When you're alone in a normal forest, there are no sounds nearby but some sounds in the distance because the critters that make noise hear you stomping around and stay quiet. However, when a predator is in the vicinity, even those distant sounds will stop. _That_ is why you feel unsettled in a quiet forest - our distant ancestors who were put on edge by an unusually quiet forest were more likely to either avoid the roaming predator or be prepared to deal with it. That was an instinct that served them well, so they more often lived, and those without it more often died. Now just about everyone has it, though it seldom comes up anymore.
The privacy aspect of this video is silly. It would be a lot easier to track where an individual goes, what they buy, and who they associate with using data from their cellphone, credit card, and social media than by satellite. Facial recognition would be difficult with only a centimeter resolution image of the top of someone's head.
Some cover their cameras. Apple's original cam that mounted on a monitor had a mechanical iris to ensure it couldn't see. Hmm... Steve Jobs died younger than many.
@@psycotria I have a shutter case for the rear cam... and not because I want to protect the lense either. Front cameras tho... those are a different story. I've seen sticker blockers, but they can mess with the capacitive touch interface, adaptive brightness and potentially some other inane functions. Idk. For how many times I've used my phone on the toilet or any other embarrassing scenarios.... like... meh. It's more the tracking than monitoring that really bothers me.
I paint the camera that faces me on my older iPad with a super thick black nail polish that is totally opaque in one coat with two coats. It’s amazing nail polish. I have to replace it every couple of months when it peels off.
@@RacerRich1 Yarp! Literally this. Remember when friends or family would be the ones to recommend shows or products? Like: "have you not seen/tried *blank*" Now it's just a corporate algorithm jamming it into our feeds with recommendations better than anyone we know could offer. Don't even get me started on misinformation or general data collection.
My dad used to build spy satellites. I'm not sure which series, though. It was classified at the time, but once it was declassified, they had a lady come talk to them and provide more details about what it was they were working on. One of his coworkers asked if they could tell if a guy was on his deck reading a newspaper. See replied, "We could tell you what newspaper they're reading." I've always assumed, based on atmospheric distortion, that she didn't mean they could read the text, but could compare the formatting against known copies of that day's paper from various sources, but still quite impressive. And that was 20+ years ago. Of course, these days I'd be much more afraid of a rogue Webcam or microphone, than I would of a satellite. Everyone who installed the TikTok app, basically gave the Chinese Communist Party full access to turn on their camera and microphone remotely, anytime they want.
Don't just claim things like that if they're not true. iPhone prohibits TikTok to use the Camera and Microphone when the app is not in use. That doesn't mean that TikTok (or any other app) is not a safety threat, which in my opinion it is, but there are security measures by Apple that work very good as of now. I wouldn't make the same claim for Android because security and Android don't go well together but I didn't make any research on that.
@denisdeari1 wtf r u bullshitting right now apple boy?? 😂 Android and privacy don't go well togerher? Do your research and then you can talk about that.
actually, war and conflict were the greatest forces to impact ingenuity and technology, not peace. just look at the rapid evolution of planes brought on by the pressures of war. conflict and competition are the impetuses for everything. like it or not.
I have 8 surveillance cameras Facing upwards in every direction above my house. I see Satellites? And other "Light Objects" ? Move, blink, turn off turn back on, occasionally a Lighted Zooming across the sky. Mostly at night. So im watching "Them" Watch Me.
This comment hit me ! I’m a star gazer, and I can tell you that while I usually only see commercial jets, I often see one extremely tiny blink of a white light, much higher than the commercial jets. I’m guessing those are low orbit satellites? They’ll blink once and then not again for quite a while. So, you are correct!
I go out a lot of nights, walking with my dog and infrared camera/ scope. on occasions I will see something larger than stars, drones, planes, not visible except for the infrared scooting along at a pretty good rate. Not as big as the moon.Any clues? Not meth related.
@@bigbadhagI came to tell you meth is near impossible to quit, and you're most likely doomed, but I see you're already in the denial/mask stage, so I'll just let the addiction take its course. Enjoy.
My father worked for the NSA most of my life. He told me in the '80's that whatever tech the government had was at least 20yrs ahead of what they admit and that at that time we had satellites that could read a license plate or at night detect a flare as small as someone lighting a match.
I remember my father telling me in 1980 that we had satellites that were so clear you could read the newspaper over someone's shoulder sitting in Red Square
He was correct. My dad got a degree in computer science in 1970. He said the same thing almost to the word. What we see has been around 20 years and they have what we will see in 20 years. I never had much interest in computers so I didn't pick his brain much but I do remember around the time Reagan got shot, he was talking about windows and IBM. In 86 he promptly quit the office life and spent the rest of his life selling bait dressed in overalls and no shirt most of the time. People had no idea how smart he was but he would always say the morality of humans can't handle computers
makes one wonder though why osama bin laden took them some time to snuff. if they had a general location on him + eyes and ears on his activities , how come he wasn't stopped immediately? i reckon directing satellite paths won't be much of a problem for all powerful entities in the us gov't.
As someone who is in their senior year of an Emergency Management and Homeland Security major, yeah this stuff is scary as hell and the government and corporations are watching / listening to you aggregating your data all day every day
Wow,like another person commented,if they are watching me,how bored are those watching?my day to day sure isn't worth watching in my opinion,and if it is,I want payment.
I’m not too bothered ,personally, by the notion of being “tracked”, but philosophically I think the diminishment of privacy for all is a real danger for society, if it empowers the government without helping also to limit it.
@@a59x I live in Eastern Europe. The American is quite right. There's a very large cemetery here full of people who found out the hard way what an overzealous police state is like, and they didn't have technology anywhere close to what's available now. Trust me, if there was a way to tax the carrots growing in your garden they would. And now they probably could. Who knows, maybe "airhead" will be moved up the naughty word list one day soon and you'll get a knock on the door.
I noticed a mistake. "Once the technology is here, if ever the government in posession of it decides to use it for more invasive goals, there's not much that can be done to stop them." Should have been... "Once the technology is here, when the government in posession of it decides to use it for more invasive goals, there's not much that can be done to stop them." It is an inevitibility.
I worked with a guy that was retired naval intelligence. He said in the mid 1980s, he was already working with satellites that I could see inside of buildings. Whatever the public is aware of, is usually decades old technology
The first question for the friend of a stranger would be HOW? There are not even land based cameras, where size and weight are not a concern, that can see through a single layer of 30# roofing felt.
The problem with videos exposing privacy violations, like this one, is that everyone just goes "Oh NO!" and then moves on with their day and don't change a thing.
and what exactly are you doing about it? have you tried running for an office or are you just posting "oh noes" online and then crying when nothing happens.
@@CSArtWrks Actually I have been doing stuff about it. I make it a goal of mine to use as much free software (free as in freedom) as possible. I host pretty much everything myself that I can including email, I have only linux installed on my computers, and I'm using an open source front end for youtube as I type this right now. I also have written to my local and state representatives regarding privacy, and most importantly, I vote. If more people make steps like these we can make a change.
@@BabyKnxckz Yes, I get that, and I don't like it either. The basic jist of my question was this : What do you think the common generic person (myself included) can *actually do* about 'it', if anything.
My father who worked as an electrical engineer for Lockheed mention to me that they had satellites in the early 1960’s that could read license plates. But many satellites at that time and were short lived because they used real film. Digital is much higher resolution. Echelon system is the main surveillance system right now.
@@FireLightning-mi4vb, a system developed by Lockheed Sunnyvale to eaves drop and record every electronic communication in the world. Began as a Cold War system to eavesdrop on the soviets. There are well over 400 echelon satellites currently. Google to get more info. Privacy is a myth.
My father also worked for them and he told me they already had tech to retrieve rockets back to earth in 1960's. Where do you think Musk took his ideas and tech from?
I was conducting an experiment at an Army base in Georgia on a Govt research program. We asked if we could take pictures of the site and setup. Not allowed but they could supply pics that were screened and approved. 2 days later they hand me photo taken by a satellite of the site. Then he hands me one of me and my colleague and it was like it was taken from 10 feet away. Doesn't matter security CCTV cameras have every populated area covered all ready. Your phone tells them where it is 24/7.
maybe in china, not in the rest of the world, but we are getting there fast, what's concerning is how we're using chinese technology at a a time that china views the west as a combatant enemy
As an amateur astronomer, I have some doubts about claims of less than 1 meter resolution from 500 kilometers high, as air pollution and humidity blurs the picture. Magnifications of more than 1000 times are close to impossible, unless you are located high up in the Atachama desert and use adapted optics, but the radar technique may be able to make a slightly better resolution. But why be scared by that, since we all run around with a smartphone in our pocket which also records our purchases and conversations🙂
They can definitely get good sub-meter resolution imagery (20 cm for example is available commercially), but as you say there are atmospheric conditions that make the acquisition of single-digit cm imagery impossible most of the time. BTW, perigees for most longer duration intelligence agency imagery satellites are around 150-200 km.
I have a problem with 42,000 starlink satellites, that I am forced to look at the rest of my life. It really seems like a step back in technology if now it takes thousands of satellites to do what one did before.
What 1 satellite did is not what Starlink does. 42.000 satellites should have at least 200.000 times more capacity for carrying data (42.000 * (100 times closer resulting in higher SNR) / less focused antennae as it uses beam-forming instead of parabola).
@@RamsesTheFourth I pay $50 LESS per month for MUCH FASTER internet since I've gotten Starlink. For those of us who's only choice is satellite internet Starlink is the cheapest option available. It's also a much better service than the more expensive options.
If this were true then there should be absolutely no crime. Every crime committed would have already been documented, the license plates all readable, the identities of every murderer identifiable. Why do police ask for any dashcam footage when there is already spectacular quality images available?
Bcs they dont care about crime also its prob still not as good as stated here and would be lots of effort todo. Also it would confirm it wich the gov woudnt like either. Why leak confidential info over someone getting killed? They would kill themselved to keep things a seecret
@@BabyKnxckz Doesn't make sense. Lots of taxpayer's money goes to investigating crimes that they would already know whodunnit, not to mention court costs, etc. Government could free up all that money for their own pet projects or for war and weapons, which they would far rather do.
So long ago I remember reading in a publicly available source that under ‘optimal conditions’, and those two words are key, license plates could be read. Optimal conditions don’t occur very often.
This is a myth. License plates are not oriented to be read from above the car. And at an oblique angle, near tangent to the curve of the earth the telescope would be not only at its maximal distance, but peering diagonally thru the greatest thickness of atmosphere.
Very well done video, I think it could've been great to also go over the fairly large limitations of satellites also, especially when you consider their orbits, latency and limited bandwidth communicating with them. When you consider this it makes sense that targets for observation need to be carefully considered and prioritized. Given the limitations, higher levels of detail is not always the most important thing. Things like real time observations of relatively small targets is not always feasible, for many military applications this can leave blind spots, this is why drones are critical to fill in the gaps that satellites fail to cover. Drones are often far better at gathering information in most ways, and they're cheaper in every way including logistics and operations, this is why most countries prioritize development and procurement of drones over satellites.
Well said. Was thinking the same. It's sounds like a lot but compared to billions of people it's nothing. Also people need to understand that they're not worth the money to follow.
I've not run the numbers, but im quite sure that with those 11 "eyes" up there it would be impossible - and by a very large margin - to for example monitor Time Square 24/7/365. Would be quite interesting to run the numbers jsut to get a feeling for what it possible and what not... but for now I'm not too vorried for the near future.
Bandwidth is not a problem for government spy sats. They have far more than anyone would be able to obtain commercially, because they have a monopoly on their own networks.
@@stuartgray5877 except such an orbital telescope does not currently exist. There is not even any optical telescope that size today anywhere... not even close. and besides... GEO is not an ideal location for observation... you miss a lot of things that hide behind buildings and mountains on higher latitudes... like time square.
Hate when person is missing,person is vanished without trace,what about these military satellite video tracking,they could zoom fly from space with these satelites,that means they could see and track anyone but they dont want to find missing persons.
@@sarahlamb2333yeah that’s what they’re saying? they could solve lots of missing person cases and ACTIVELY CHOOSE NOT TO. That is a shitty choice that further proves the government does not and will not ever care for us. we have to realize that and stop begging them for a modicum of respect that they will never think us worthy of. we are cattle to them, genuinely.
@@notahumanbeing6892 that is a very narrow view you have..if said missing person was thought to be being held by terrorists they would look for them..drones can be used to find missing people & are..so what you are saying doesn't make sense
We could have multiple Hubbles looking out at the universe, furthering science and the future of humanity. Instead, they are pointed back at ourselves, fuelled by distrust and suspicion.
@@loon894 Duh..... There's already plenty of evidence that the speed of light is so slow in relation to the size of the known universe that any studies past our solar system are nothing more that a hobby. I'm am PRO HOBBY. But I am anti masking a hobby as a functional need for the sole purpose of getting money to support that hobby from others that don't enjoy the same hobby. It will be a cold day in the fictional place call Hell before you teach me something about the Heavens or anything else. But.... I'll always take a listen just in case because I always like to learn something new.
It's Us vs [Them], fueled by [Their] Hatred. It is [Their] desire to eliminate Most, and keep just enough Dumb ones; just smart enough to operate their machines. - paraphrased - George Carlin
Absolutely excellent topic to explore - and done wonderfully well. The whole thing scares the bejesus out of me. One centimeter satellite pixel resolution, AI/ChatGPT social management for profit, never-ending nuclear annihilation threats .... Can't we just quietly, peacefully explore the Cosmos around us?
Actually, 1 cm resolution can't be done from space. Scientists figured out that better than 5cm is impossible - because of atmospheric interference - back in the 60s. Also, the Key Hole series of satellites have been tremendously helpful to science. Al Gore was able to convince the NRO to declassify a treasure-trove of pictures from those early Corona satellites mentioned in the video for scientific purposes. Scientists were able to learn much about weather patterns and environmental impacts (including the shrinking of the Aral Sea) by pouring over this data. That's without even getting into how much KH-11 helped the Hubble Space Telescope, and the even bigger benefit a KH-11 follow-on program brought to the upcoming Nancy Grace Roman telescope. Also, the National Reconnaissance Office has less than half the budget of NASA. It's not an impediment to science - we can study the cosmos and monitor authoritarian regimes at the same time.
Not while we elect people who put profit above planet. Not while people can amass so much wealth, they can severely impact elections, if not completely buy them. Not with the current power structures. And not without solving the human condition. Who knows maybe they will be able to gene edit to prevent greed, lust for power, violence etc but the current world we built needs to be drastically changed if we are to live in peace. The Israelis war against a terror org thats been ongoing for 75 years creates generational hate. That hate spreads and infects. especially now with technology. Its one thing to hear 1200 Israelis dead in a terror attack and a completely different thing to watch videos of the massacre of those people. We just are not there yet, and I dont think we will with current civilization. Maybe God did have a flood once to reset us, seems we may have deserved it if they were like us.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If someone is watching me via surveillance cameras, drones, or heaven forbid satellites. Then they are some extremely bored people and could probably find something way more interesting to watch. But if they are in fact watching me, then I feel flattered that someone out there has so much interest in little ol me
It would only take one nuke destroying a city to convince everyone that the intelligence community needed more funding, rather than complaining about privacy concerns.
You can just not carry them. Nobody with half a brain who is trying to be covert will carry a phone, or any other radio capable device, as they move around.
This happened decades ago: Some science entity or science magazine, can't remember, had a contest to see who in the public could determine what was in a photo. No one figured it out. _It was the dimples on a golf ball taken from a satellite!_
If I trusted my government to both regulate commercial use and to not abuse it themselves, then I don't think I'd be too bothered. Perhaps the benefits you mentioned could _potentially_ outweigh the risks. The thing is, I don't trust my government, not one tiny bit.
It was back in the 1960's ,when the U2 spy plane was in operation, it was claimed they could read the headline on the front page of a newspaper from someone sitting on a park bench. Now they can define covered objects....
First time i used google earth was back in 2010. I looked around the area i lived at the time, Sydney. When i looked at Bondi Beach i was amazed at the detail and clarity, you could tell men from women their clothing colour. Even saw a shark swimming off shore, well its dark outline and i could define its shape easily. When you look now its nowhere near as clear and detailed. It was a lot clearer then that iranian rocket sight photo.
They are using aerial photography, not satellite, for high density places. Hence huge difference in resolution on these maps. Plus they update it only once a few years.
In the early 2000s a friend and I went on a "different"Google maps,it was a live satellite feed and I know it was live,we mucked around in it for half an hour or so,should have see the phone/internet bill that arrived the next month!!!!😮
They've been able to read license plates from space for 30+ years... How long until spy satellites are mostly obsolete? Most of us carry a minimum of 2 cameras and a microphone with us everywhere. Pegasus can turn every phone into a spy satellite.
The sensor resolution isn't the only thing that increases overall resolution. The optics matter, and as resolution is increased by focal length increases, field of view gets much smaller. Your need 1,000,000 of these 500m^2 fields, to blanket cover the 3% of urban land in the USA. No one should be worried about this tech, unless it happens to be specifically pointed at you for some reason. And if that's the case, there will also be eyes on you down here too. This was an unnecessarily fear inducing video,but I'm sure the clicks were good.
i don't think anyone watching this could or should think they are actually important enough for a government to actually watch them or care what you do on a daily basis. people get so paranoid about privacy, and yeah it sucks, but it is mostly for advertising which makes it super annoying and not on the side of being beneficial. and also most people assume governments are actually some big, well put together, organized and intelligent body... i can assure you they are not, at least the ones i know.
Agreed except that a wanker like Canadian pm Trudeau froze the bank accounts of protesting truck drivers and THEN the bank account of folks who donated money to a GoFundMe for their benefit...that's when it gets dodgy...
Totally agree with you. There is no such thing as an organization that can monitor every single person. Satellites have small flyby windows so at best they can record stuff for review at a later date. They don't just hover or sit in space and track your every movement for the day. Most importantly, there are a lot of stupid and lazy folks that work in the government. Also, a room full of analysts have better things to do than watch the average Joe who stole a bagel from the gas station. People get paid to only watch high value targets. Most of the time, they can't even get that right.
Say goodbye to a clear view of the night sky. 42,000 Star Link satellites would be ridiculous. Why, there ought to be a law...no, really, some regulation before it's too late!
I don't know where you live but, given the Light pollution coming from many cities, you can already say goodbye to a clear view of the night sky. So maybe we should do something about that. Would you be prepared to support Regulations to govern THAT?
SL satellites are so small they're practically imperceptible to the naked eye unless you looking for them directly. You do know how large the surface area of the Earth is right? That surface area becomes much larger when you are in orbit. I can guarantee those SL satellites are going to zero difference in night time viewing.
@@heathb4319SL don't have those capabilities, that's tinfoil hat talk. Yes, there are organisations out there that use chemicals to alter weather but these chemicals are not harmful to us on the ground, it's mostly silver nitrates/nitrites to help it rain in dry areas.
So far there is only "4500" starlink up there. They've also made them dark so as not to disturb observers. They are also small, so they don't really obstruct the view.
Start with - how many Hubble mirrors are facing downward - over a dozen. In 1988 I interviewed at a company that was processing satellite photos and using a computer to automatically “stitch” them together into one larger tapestry. Among the photos I saw during the interview, one could clearly see the claws on a claw hammer and distinguish fingers on a hand holding the hammer - this implies a 1cm resolution in 1988 …
Overhead (space-based) cameras are 1 part of the equation,. but realistically any time you step outside your home,.. the amount of things gathering data on you is pretty immense. Any one in a relatively modern city is probably on 100's (if not 1000's) of different security cameras per day. Any traffic system you drive through is likely logged your anonymized Bluetooth MAC devices. (it's how they predict traffic flow). Any purchase you make might indicate a pattern of travel. Those could be used for the wrong reasons,.. but that data could save you to if you need to prove an alibi or justification why you were in a certain place.
Yea it just seems like, there's so much data on so many people that there isn't enough People to look through it all lmao, especially when there's no reason to
@@Kratos_TM Nobody uses actual people to look through the data any more,. it's all done by algorithms or search-filters or AI networks. If I remember correctly the NSA came out years ago and said it had a "big data problem" (to much data). Their problem isn't the amount of data (you actually want the largest set possible, because that helps you find more accurate patterns). If you have 10 million people in a city, you don't need to know what all 10 million of them are doing. You only need to somehow mark or identify certain patterns. If for example you suspect drugs are being sold out of a certain warehouse,. you only need data on vehicles or people that go to that warehouse.
@jasonnugent963 I see, I wish we could have some more privacy overall but in the world we live in, it would be tough to give up all of the advancements we've made for privacy
@@Kratos_TM wrote, _"tough to give up all of the advancements we've made for privacy"_ if world war 3 were to happen overnight, and you woke up to an impossibly damaged infrastructure, you would instantly lose online access to everything: voice, internet, gps, etc. If you're older, like me, that's just not an issue at all. I regularly turn-off my phone, leave it at home when i run errands, etc. I lived through childhood into adulthood without any digital devices and I did just fine across the board. That's a pretty stark contrast with the past generation or two as of today. They seem to need some sort of plug-in to do just about anything, and the idea of even one waking hour without their phone seems to rattle them. Stepping back to see the bigger picture, this is actually a massive vulnerability in the U.S. because if some hostile actor were to disable our infrastructure badly enough, it seems that roughly half the U.S. population wouldn't know how to exist, much less survive.
@Teal-De-Yarr Yea thats very true, I'm in my early twenties and it's a huge fear of mine tbh. Lived the latter half of my life with complete access to the internet so of course I'm used to having it lol
I remember buying satellite footage back in the late 90s, of JFK airport, for a commercial. I'm in visual effects. Pretty sure this would be illegal today, I do remember buying the highest resolution available to the public at the time. And it was in the range of around 50 cm or so, if not less. You could clearly make out wings and details of planes on the runway.
All technology can be used either by good people or bad people, this is why governments must be kept in check by the citizens and then those governments must be held responsible for writing fair & just laws that hold corporations in check!
Yeah, but it's an asymmetrical relationship. Evil will win because it doesn't have moral limitations. It's already possible (of course) to influence people of certain political leanings not to vote and let them know that they'll be seen going to the polls if they go there. Keeping a sustainable and ethical system requires order that can be more easily destroyed than it can be preserved. Evil will rise from the chaos.
My dad used to get popular science and Mechanics magazines, I remember in the 50s of early 60s they could read a license plate in a parking lot with some kind of thermal camera , doesn't sound all that scary , until you know that they were looking at the pictures in the evening , after the cars had all left. By now , we are bugs in a jar.
been more apparent sense 2003, it's a problem now because the ones controlling the surveillance are corrupt now, no one following the rules anymore on both sides
**Some** people. Not all. Satellites provide 'eyes' in the scenario where a person doesn't use technology much, if at all. Don't imagine that just because you don't see the value of it, that there isn't any value to be seen. The world is a much darker place than most people realize, and it's in that 4th quadrant -- _what you don't know, that you don't know_ -- where the dark magic weaves its spell.
Well that whole apparatus is part & parcel of the 'spying' mechanism. A spy is someone (or something) that gets you to disclose far more information than you normally would.
There already exists drones which can do the job better, and it has been utilized in warfare. Flying above a target city there was an IED attack. They pulled up the Drone recording and looked at the spot until they backtracked to the people planting the IED, Going forward in the footage they followed them back to their hideout in the recording, was one of the biggest IED factories in the area.
They say they know where every plane is BUT when a large passenger plane disappears they sometimes can't even say what area they disappeared. Thousands of satellites in the year .. joke
Great video! I think it's scary to see how many satellites have been added in such a short while. Wouldn't they all come down eventually as well, crashing down on earth maybe, also from all the collisions? And also maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't it make space travel more difficult at some point?
In short, yes, to both. Most of our space debris is small enough that it'll burn up completely on reentry. The idea of the trash becoming too difficult to navigate is a real problem, though the specific name escapes me. Even just a stray bolt can put a hole in a space ship.
They're not all at the same distance from Earth, the area they are in is immense. The chance they will collide is extremely low, but it will happen one day if we keep increasing satellites at the current increasing rate
Just imagine Elon Musk getting into a hissy fit and launching a box of 1000 screws into orbit just because he didn't like some Joe Schmoe saying he shouldn't do it.
Nearmap in Australia is an incredible resource. Multiple pods mounted on planes, giving regular updates at sub 10cm resolution under flight paths, at different angles.
There are commercially available satellites people can get data from, for example, a person might just have a randomly assigned arbitrary number, and then use that to track where they go what they do, etc.. and I wouldn’t really call this a “new” thing
The state of Maryland in the US has planes that fly 24/7 and record the cities. I first heard about it from my uncle who is a pilot Who flies out of the airport where those planes fly from and then a few years later, I saw something where Congress was upset about it and mentioned more details about it. I don't know what good it does them because they have some of the highest crime in the entire country, and they don't have great success rates on prosecution.
I don’t know about 24/7 but as an airplane mechanic I’ve seen and ridden on a Pilates PC12 that had a ball camera that lowered out of the tail. The cabin had a few seats and a console for the operator of the camera. The outside of the plane was painted with Dept of Homeland Security. They weren’t hiding anything, but made it to look like a business jet (turboprop).
@@nutandboltguy3720 yeah, the 24/7 statement makes no sense - what could they capture flying in the dark? Secondly, one plane flying daylight hours cannot revisit, let’s say an area even the size of Baltimore (much less the entire state), in a short period of time, so they are capturing snapshots in time, not real-time tracking. Thirdly Maryland as a state is not even in the top 10 of states with the highest crime rates. So that doesn’t make sense. Lastly, putting a camera in the tail of an airplane is absolutely the worst place to put it, making high quality aerial imagery much more difficult than placing a camera at the center of gravity/center of aerodynamic control. It appears that the airplanes you mentioned could be part of the Air Domain Awareness and Protection of the National Airspace System program. The program is conducting long-term evaluation of various surveillance technologies at this time. With a brief look, I have not been able to find more detailed information than a fact sheet from April 2021.
@plasmaman9592 is correct in this statement, its been used in Mexico. I saw a report on the company that makes the drone here on YT a few years ago and they did mention Maryland as the test market for this technology for the United States but they couldn't get past those pesky civil liberties we have to blanket surveil everyone. Doing a quick search, I cannot find anything about the company now, and cannot recall the name of it. The company was based in the Untied States though, maybe Florida, IDK. I just remember being shocked at what they could do with it. In the case they outlined in this particular news story, they had a random murder (surprise) on the streets of Mexico, the cops had no witnesses and no other clues than a dead guy. From the drone footage, they were able to go to the place on the map where the guy was killed, saw who killed him, dropped a little green box on the getaway car, and followed it in reverse all the way back to their hideout. It basically recorded everything in the whole city at once but they could pinpoint any part of a city street and walk their way back through the whole series of the murder. If I can find the name of the company I will add an edit to this comment, but this is real. The reason they aren't solving murders in the United States with this tech is because they would have to present it in court as part of the defenses discovery if they used it to charge someone with a crime. Just because they aren't solving murders with it doesn't mean this tech isn't in use already.
Another innovation to consider is the advent of "AI" image and video upscaling. Modern image processing software and hardware can increase an image's resolution by about x8, with surprising accuracy and clarity. That's just the commercially available upscalers you can buy for a couple of hundred dollars, who knows what the military has.
So? You can not use the upscaling for anything. The upscaler only GUESSES what is there, it does not know what is there. You can not extract any more information from, than what was captured originally. It does not matter what the military has, because they can not magically gain more information from an image.
The thing with AI upscaling is, that the AI only blurts out an estimation of what could be the result at the higher resolution, but not actually the real result. In other words: the AI makes up stuff. AI upscaling is thus useless for such reconnaissance purposes, because you don't know, whether the image you get from the AI is actually true.
It's making predictive interpretations based on training, not only with millions of similar images, but also the full set of images taken of the subject, in chronological order. Having a series of photos, with slightly shifting perspectives as the satellite moves across the area, would provide important additional information on which to base the predictions. You wouldn't use upscaled images exclusively; you would use them in comparison to the original images. You wouldn't use them to identify the presence of objects in the image, just to interpret the already visible ones. Analysts already make predictions about missing detail in their assessments of images, however the upscaler would generally be better at predicting details than the analysts. The analyst could always reject the interpretation the upscaled image provides if they think it is inaccurate.
I remember hearing a US Intelligence official describing the abilities of spy satellites back in the 1980's which he claimed could read a newspaper someone was holding in a park - from low earth orbit? The metal group Judas Priest wrote a song about it called "Electric Eye".
@@Ron-zr6seno they didn't. We wouldn't have needed spy planes if that were true. Obviously it's all classified but it's a safe bet that ultra high res sats were in play when we stopped using spy planes.
It's just a part of the puzzle. The data is combined and cross referenced with other data like surveillance cameras, phone data, google maps also tracks your location etc. That's where the real danger is. Even if the resolution isn't enough to directly recognize someone, linked to date and time with other footage you can track cars and people that way even if it is just 10 pixels. Coupled with ai and trainee map and security camera data it can sift through huge piles of data. And ai can also enhance resolution by combining sources. I think we should realize anonimity is only protected by the operators good will. As of yet, lookimg people up has a tremendous cost so it's for now unlikely everyone is being monitored by people but ai and processing power keep improving by leaps and bounds.
yeah, it's already part of a existing megasystem of national security and law enforcement tools used for forensic processes, it's cyberspace we need to worry about and the cyberwar
The "imagine if they were uses for science instead of spying" line is all well and good and a lovely thought but it misses the realities of the world. Without conflict and governments wanting the technology for surveilance then this technology and many others would not even exist. Chances are we would still not have put a man on the moon. Conflict is, and has always been the single biggest driver of scientific technology.
It doesn't have to be though. It only is because we are constantly in conflict. If even a quarter of the resources put into militaries was diverted to scientific study, there would be more than enough innovation.
@@Pushing_Pixels A good proportion of what you consider as military spending is scientific research. The guy names Lockheed Martin as one of the two main competitors to build the telescope. They are in that position because they are one of the biggest (I assume the biggest, I might be wrong) producers of military equipment. Self guided missiles didn't just appear when money became available. I get that in your perfect utopia we all just get along and have a desire for scientific research for it's own sake. Wouldn't that be nice. But people need motivation to act and there is nothing more motivating than having an imminent threat. Conflict going back thousands of years drove ideas and research, from a sling to throw a rock faster and further, to building a stronger wall, a better catapult...... To radar, the nuclear bomb and landing on the moon. Conflict has driven science the whole way. Both with the technology but more importantly the ideas that go in and come from it.
@@spindoctor6385 I'm well aware that a lot of money goes to weapons system development, but that's not even close to the bulk of the funding the military receives. I'm also not being utopian, I'm just pointing out that scientific advancements would happen regardless of whether we were in conflict, as long as we allocated resources for it. Despite the large amounts of money and effort that go into developing military technologies today, the majority of scientific breakthroughs still happen through universities and non-military private R&D. The amount of additional resources we would need to allocate to civilian research in order to get benefits equal to what we currently derive from military research would be much less than what we spend on militaries today.
@@Pushing_Pixels You are being utopian because you have not come up with any mechanism that would motivate this desire for scientific research. You just pretend that everybody wants scientific research for the sake of it. You are obviously the dictator of your utopia because you think you can ignore all needs, market forces and the entire history and nature of mankind that got us to this point and replace it with "allocating resources" Sounds like the basis of every (failed) communist utopia to me.
Most of the pictures you see in this video are taken either by plane or drone. Adding the chilling music and wording makes you think the satellite images are what you are seeing. After getting the best picture from a satellite on the perfect day, you will still need to ZOOM in afterwards. This story means pictures, static pictures, what about video? Video is the only way to begin to track something and that isn't without a host of problems. Maybe in 100-200 years, we'll have crisp close video. Also the storyline of the Hubble makes you think there potentially might be 11 Hubble types out there, but no..that's a misnomer. It's not the same Hubble glass or equipment, which are gawd awful unusable for earth tracking, it's a lense size similar to the Hubble that they are referring to. If you carefully watched, you would have heard that. The Hubble is specially built for long LONG distance viewing only, not close ups.
Galaxies “collide” without stars colliding…or so they say. It’s all due to relative size and distances. Satellites have collided, but they know the orbits and orbital velocities of existing satellites so they are launched to not collide.
Do a search for "why do starlink satellites not collide". One video said they are aware of each other and have to take evasive maneuvers to avoid each other. But if I'm getting the numbers right, out of 6000 starlink satellites in low earth orbit, only about 140 adjustments need to be taken in a day. I think that's among all 6000, not for each satellite. Another video mentioned that the agencies that put satellites up make sure that they location data is known to other agencies so they can adjust course when necessary. So it sounds kinda like flight control center monitoring aircraft.
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People be scared of satellite cameras recording them from thousands of km and forget that they have a camera constantly pointing at them and a microphone in their phone
With internet connection.
Exactly
@@jeffbenton6183 and being tracked via Phone/cell masts....even with their phones turned off.
Funny you point that out, every had a conversation about something that you don't talk about every day, then you start getting adds trying to sell you something related to what you just talked about?
@@fmort210Okay, but sometimes i get ads for stuff i was only thinking about and seemingly did not speak of or type anywhere.
My concern (speaking as a Network engineer and security admin) is that there is already a profound amount of apathy towards personal privacy. People take very little, if any, precautions to protect their privacy as it is, so unfortunately I can see most people also not caring about the ever-increasing resolution of satellite photography.
Yea it's probably cheaper just hiring someone to follow me with a camera.
It's hard to avoid being tracked, most phone apps require GPS enabled for example, and 5g repeaters can detect biometric signatures even if you don'thave your phone on. Communist china has perfected social tracking and their model is the beta test for other governments
I guess people feel like their lives are too boring to draw attention to. I walk from my house to my workplace most days, and then back again, and occasionally to the shop to pick up some food. Big revelation. It's the same with the internet; google knows that I like gaming, camping and cat videos, and amazon knows that I like buying dishwasher tablets, toothpaste and shower gel. Big wow.
Most countries don't use their Spy satellites on them selves... That is often considered a waste of time, especially when you consider the logistics and time that goes into operating a satellite, they're also not designed to track small targets like individuals because of their limitations (like latency and bandwidth and observation time) its difficult regardless of the resolution (higher resolution also means higher latency and even slower return on images)
People find every reason to give the government more top-down control.
Any apperent "catastophy" = clearly they need more power.
Any problem maker or crime exists = clearly they need more power so they can punish him.
Not to mention that the goal is to punish the person after the damage has already been done. Kinda illogical way to run a system. As compared to trying to prevent crime instead of punishing after it already happened... not even primary goal of reform... primary goal of punishment.
As a US Navy veteran, I can almost guarantee that if they say "one meter", the Military has gotten it down to one millimeter.
I was on the USS Ranger, CV61, for it's last cruise, 1993. They did a speed trial. A blade on the port, outboard propeller was bent, so at top speed the whole 1,000 ft long ship shook like it was about to come apart.
They advertised that top speed was around 35 knots. It went 51 knots with the bent blade. "Hotel 61" was the last oil-fired carrier in the US fleet.
It's anchored in the ship boneyard off Washington state, unless it's already been turned into razor blades 🤣
Then they can many diagnose skin conditions and head lice! Wooppee!! Satellites in LEO are moving so fast, I don't think they can track a looting event very long. No worries for street-level camera sales yet.
I think this really comes down to intel, limited resources and what they choose to spend that time on with the spying. Pretty sure they aren't looking in on your pathetic backyard BBQ family reunion or haystack in a field romp too closely unless you are a big enough threat to them in some way or you have a big enough pervert hacker in control who can get away with it. I am FAR more concerned with the devices used in everyday life listening in and tracking and recording all your moves and the A.I. being used to access the average timing of your shits, pisses, farts, orgasms, travel habits and sleep schedules plus every word you've ever said or typed since they ramped up the tech. Be thankful they can't read your thoughts...yet.
4 TB pics being taken by US spy satellites in the late 1960s.
as a non-veteran i agree with you. in the movie "enemy of the state" which stars gene hackman, jon voight and will smith, hackman says an interesting thing. he says any technology you see used in a movie or on tv is about 10 years behind the reality of the capability of that technology. for some odd reason i tend to believe that statement!
the profit motive is the reason for these oppressive, intrusive, overpriced monstrosities. even the "scientific" ones. if rich people didn't make money from them they wouldn't be built. ever notice how NOTHING gets done in the world unless the rich get richer from it? its why pollution, wars and poverty exists. they own everything. they control everything. they make all decisions for the rest of humanity. and humanity is kept blind, apathetic and stupid enough to let them do it.
they are working in cm but definitely agree. far past what the “public knows”
Anyone who says "I've done nothing wrong so I have nothing to hide" with regards to privacy should try pooping with the door open at a public bathroom.
Who cares? If you saw someone pooping with the stall open would your feelings be hurt? Sounds like it
Taco Bell should be charged with crimes against humanity. And you really should be ashamed of Yourself.
There are no doors in institutions and we all survived.
@@kimollivierbut it was _dehumanizing_
Bad analogy. We use privacy for the comfort of others as much as our own. Leaving the door open would be twisted exibitionism, and one should see a therapist if one was so inclined. If someone is going to SPY on me, then I'm not concerned with "offending" them. They're the one with the problem, not me. I have bigger fish to fry.
If you are watching me with a satellite, you must have an even more boring life than I do.
It’s not about boring. It’s about information and control. They want to know what everyone is doing at all times. So sure chalk it up to “boredom” but you’re being hella ignorant.
@@Badger1776I'm pretty sure their comment was in jest, calm down
@@Badger1776 aint noone spying on civilians lol the only use there is for that is traffic of certain areas.
@@LeSkateWA lol you must not believe Edward Snowden then.
@@LeSkateWA oh they definitely are, they likely don't even need to use people to track people at all times. they can use ai and algorithms to record it all. Then at one point in the future, you say something they don't like, or are of a group/ethnicity/whatever other factor that future person or organization in control of this technology dislikes, they can just put your name, identity, or picture into a database search and they have a full history of everything you've ever done and are currently doing, and can do with it as they please.
“For our security” gets bandied about a lot, yet we still can’t catch criminals robbing the local Dollar Store.
...or get the right damned address!!!!!
We could catch them, we choose not to.
Wearing a wide brimmed hat would be a protection against satellites but your own phone is probably a tracking device.
Nor the kidnapper, rapist and pedophile next door.
They could but its not worth it financially. They rather focus on violent crimes and political enemies. Any authoritarian state of the past would be envious of what methods there are today. Everyone uses Smartphones and thus gives away where they are at all times, what they talk about etc. People even give away their data for free on social media. Satellites are the least of our concern. There is surveillance cams everywhere and agencies track everyones internet activities. The better the algorithms get the better the control of governments on their populations. So the biggest concern is actually authoritarian people that want to be put in power.
People constantly bring up the CIA, and NSA when it comes to the privacy discussion but no one ever mentions the NRO. The stuff those guys can see and listen to is absolutely mindblowing....cutting edge to the point of being spooky.
The NRO has no intelligence exploitation mission. They simple procure, build, design, launch, and manage satelites. They are essentially a logistical agency within the Intelligence Community. Your thinking of the NGA. The CIA has very little satelitte based intelligence mission.
What is the NRO?
@@arnorobinwerkman National Reconnaissance Office. They are the ones who send up the spy sattalites and monitor video and other data. There is a lot of videos of previous missions they have conducted in the past. Some of the equipment is very advanced. From what I have read and heard from diffrent interviews I've watched they can now see and basically listen to phones and hack internet from space.
@@arnorobinwerkmanNational Reconnaisance Office, I believe.
@@marianneb.7112 thanks
It is not about privacy it is about controll, what is even more terrifying
what's more? corrupt people being in control
The more terrifying thing that these illusions of a grand controller are masking is that there is no one in control.....its just little pockets of tyrants. There is no overarching control scheme. If there were, then why would you need to talk to 8 different people at the hall of records to get a copy of something of yours? Yeah. The terrible truth is no one knows whats going on, and most of us are just blustering our way through it all.....
Almost everything people do is for control.
1984 (No longer just a novel)
Perhaps one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in a YT video: "There are potentially 11 different Hubbles out there. Imagine how much further we would be if they were used for science, not spying."
Not very far. Hubble is great but astronomy isn’t really holding us back.
enlighten me with how have 12 hubble taking picture of space would improve are life on earth ?
@patrickarsenault5201 let's see.
Asteroids and meteors, solar flares, space debris, monitoring the ISS, looking for and determining life on other planets, all of which will and does have an effect on us.
I agree, but that's a "they", not a "we"
Because "I" did not consent to this of my own free will, and "I" have no influence over industrial operations required to manufacture and launch a satellite, but "they" do
@@patrickarsenault5201 taking 12 hubbles instead of spy satellites as an example of spending these huge amounts of money into other than conflicts and wars, that is the point i guess
Joke's on them, I never leave my parents basement.
Classic 😂
You are therefore quite easy to track.
😂
Unfortunately I’m pretty sure poptart purchases are tracked ….
I wear a gown made of metallic fabric that morphs me into looking like a dairy cow as seen from space. Yes, it does look ridiculous for a dairy cow to go in and out of Macdonaldsand come out eating a BigMac. Working on it😢.
They can target with perfect accuracy anyone on earth, but whenever there's alleged alien sightings, from the same or similar distance its so bad its like that the image was taken by a potato!!
That’s the most frustrating part 😂
Or the footage of the "plane" that hit pentagon on 9/11.
So are you worried you are being watched? I'm not, I'm not that important.
Peace and Ahev
@@MilanTheMan69 There's plenty of high res images of the very round hole through multiple layers of the pentagon though.
@@FriedEgg101 Without even a single piece of airplane in sight
The most interesting pictures are the ones taken of Australia, it is quite comic to see the Ozzies waking around upside down like flies on a lightbulb!
Thats' odd, cos when we look at our satellite photo's of you mob in the other Hemisphere, it's you who is upside down.
What our leaders and billionaires are doing in broad daylight for everyone to see should be far more troubling than what can be seen from space by anyone in particular.
this takes stalking to a whole new level
Your right, and they're the "people" using this tech, to Conserve their privilege and power.
I appreciate this video, because now I plan to occasionally pause in the middle of my day, glance upwards, and raise the appropriate finger to the sky with a big smile. Whether anyone actually catches that is irrelevant. The point is that they MIGHT.
Hahaha 😅
lmao let em knooow wendy 👏🤣
When I'm outside at night and the copper choppa is out terrorising the neighbourhoods 'probs for weed grow locations;; I always give a complimentry FU MOON.
@@drusuffabadly4046 Had to laugh when I read that. Last month or so, I've heard a rather large chopper going overhead, same time every night. We have a little bird that visits our county hospital now and again, but this one sounds larger. Been wondering what he was up to, your comment might have given me some insight, LOL.
@@DoxymeisterLocal TV traffic bird.
What worries me is not necessarily privacy in this case, but the amount of wasted resources on silly wars and unfriendliness between countries.
It was super difficult to send 1 Hubble up there, and to think that there are 11 other "Hubbles" just for spying is infuriating and depressing.
I had a related thought. When we landed on the moon, it was a military missions disguised as a scientific one. Today, if you wanted to do a scientific mission to the moon, you would likely have to disguise it as a military mission for it to be successful.
you might feel better if you consider that these "Hubbles" formed the national technical means of verification that were key to SALT denuclearization.
...do you know WHY you're able to sit safely at your desk and play "keyboard quarterback" in relative safety making silly comments like this? Because your government spent billions on this technology to prevent something horrible from happening. I worked in this industry. Let me reassure you, you are not safe, but are kept so because of the 24 hour a day work of thousands of people who develop and use this technology. Rest easy in your ignorance...
time to grow up
(10:54)
I can remember in the 90’s of the military having a camera so sharp that you can tell the brand of a cigarettes box siting on a picnic table. Anything the government can do is told to the public 20+ years later.
Peter Jennings, some time before 2005. At the beginning of one of his nightly broadcasts. He threw out a hook to keep us watching by saying like, at exactly 6:58 and 30 sec. The Government has decided to let us see the capability of one of the latest spy satellite. Yeah, I got hooked.
The last add block played. They came back from break silently with a satellite view of the Americas. Zoomed on to North America. Zoomed to Florida. Zoomed to Orlando area. Zoomed to Disney world. Zoomed to a couple sitting on a park bench. Zoomed to the Mans left arm as he was looking at his ticking analog watch, hands at 6:58. As the second hand jumped to 30 sec. Panned back out a bit They both looked up into the sky and smiled together.
I remember the dramatic effect. Not a sound...News was over.
We could see the minutes segmented on the dial and the brand of watch. Her eyes I even think were blue. If you knew them, you would have recognized them.
Astrum , I enjoyed your presentation. But if you ever do a redo. That over 19 year old footage I'm sure is archived. I would enjoy seeing it again.
Rest in Peace Peter Jennings.
And condolences to his family.
He passed in 2005 of lung cancer.
Its cute how A) you dont give an altitude so your claim is anecdotal at best, and B) you are apparently so unfamiliar with cigarette PACKS (not box, pack) that its amazing to you that they can be differentiated at great distance. Trust me, as a smoker, Its easy to look across a quad and see whos the edgy hipster with the lucky strikes.....
@@TankRcigarette box or cigarette box depends on what side of the globe you live on. It's not just strictly PACK!!
You are correct. In the early 90´s a friend working at the CIA described being able to identify if a coin was head or tails from one of their satellites.
Imagine what they DON'T tell us they can do!?!?
Most nights, I go outside to spot satellites. It’s a great sport. Last night I saw eight. Most were Starlink, and one was Cosmos.
Not everything is about u. This is a major issue for passionate scientists, making it harder for them to do their jobs observing the cosmos from earth
@@SublimeSynth That's a valid concern, but bashing people who like to look at the sky isn't going to gain you any sympathy. Quite the opposite in fact. He gave no indication that he believes it's all about him.... you, on the other hand.....
@@theobserver9131 if someone takes reality as a bash, the problem isn't with the reality. facts do not care about feelings.
I saw a fresh release of starlink satellites a couple of weeks ago.... they were still pretty tight, in their "string of pearls" configuration. While I am concerned about "traffic congestion", and the plight of astronomers, it is quite an awesome sight!
@@SublimeSynth😂
I don’t see satellites as a privacy issue as much as i do cameras and microphones. That the gov doesn’t sue meta into non existence over their use of microphones to listen to conversations is nuts to me. That posting random people online or subsequentely doxing them is not a criminal offense with extreme sentencing is nuts to me.
but i mean everyone is doxxed at least to an extent. your neighbors know where you live, the people who fix your toilet know where you live ect. shouldnt you be extremely worried that your neighbors all know where you live? best not to piss them off xd
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 A few people can be dealt with. The government and it's resources can't.
Most of us are not important enough for any government to track.
Satellites are expensive, a much cheaper technology already exists that does the same thing, surveillance drones and phone tracking. Drones can hover around a city and collect the movement data of every person and car. It isn't spying on a specific person but all your historical data can be pulled if need be. And yes, phones can be tracked too but this requires people to physically have them so it's easily defeated.
They didn't sue meta because they are a government project. In-q-tel
Former Army. I was told by a signals NCO that he could go into his TOC and see initials he had written on a penny. Take whatever “they say” they can do and multiply by 100. Nobody voted for the surveillance state, we just woke up with cameras and license plate readers and stingray devices, etc., everywhere. They watch and listen constantly, then store the information. It’s not good.
We didnt have to vote it in. The "plain view" laws are what seem to allow all this unwarranted surveillance.
If I knew what a TOC was, I'd probably agree with you.
No.
i would want a refund on my tax dollars if the NSA wasn't collecting that data though, it's the sole mission of the NSA to data collect domestically, it's how we protect national security
@@GX-105D You are OK with EVERYTHING you've ever said and done on an electronic device being stored in a giant database THAT YOU CANT REVIEW OR USE and you pay for it? Every email, every search, every website, every download, every phone text and convo, everything youve ever done tracked and logged?
GET THE FUCK OUT BOT
The biggest problem with all this data collection is that there is too much of it. Sure, they have every bit and bite you ever generated, but they can't sort through it. No one will ever see it unless you attract attention to yourself some other way.
One of the few intelligent comments here. Thank you.
Some way like protesting or doing something those in authority don’t like… You are right but “just don’t attract attention to yourself” isn’t an acceptable solution or end to the conversation to me. Also the technology for algorithms/neural networks/AI (or whatever you want to call it) to do the watching and build profiles of every single person will only improve.
The danger is that with the advancement of AI that is currently accelerating, the data collection can be assigned to AI which can use big data analytics to sort through those vast data sets, so regardless of whether or not a person brings attention to themselves, we’re all still vulnerable…
I am happy to have grown up in an age where I could look up and see only stars. I feel terrible for our children. We are taking the wonder out of the world.
Those aren’t all stars
You grew up with no planes in the air? Satellites don't really pollute our view of the sky as of yet.
that's not a luck star son, that's a surveillance satellite from china
@@jaredsilvers2782 The problem is actually neither of them when trying to see stars, but it's rather the light pollution reflected from the ground. The reason why I still haven't been able to ever see the Milky Way in my life. :(
I remember growing up in 90s finding the satellites because they moved slowly flickering. Now apparently they are smaller and hard to spot.
In the mid 1970’s I worked for Hughes Aircraft in Los Angeles . I had a security clearance and my job included parts issuance for the building of spy satellites . I personally have seen photographs taken by these satellites . You could read the brand on a pack of cigarettes . Yes folks this was technology in the 1970’s, almost 50 years ago. It is staggering to imagine the advanced technology in place now.
crazy
It is what it is. Live with it.
I don’t believe you. The expiration of your security clearance does not authorize you to share classified information now - it is illegal. And issuing parts probably did not give you the Need to Know to see the resulting imagery, regardless if the keel of your clearance.
its illegal to do drugs and i do it everyday. its also illegal to lie in a court and most politicians do. you should better believe that there are some good guys around not covering the government...@@vanguard9067
@@JimBoom92 does that makes it right? The vast majority of politicians don’t engage in courtroom activities, so that statement is wring from that perspective, and how do you know they lie? And then you say that good guys are NOT covering the government - isn’t that contradicting the point you are trying to make?
The worst time I got that prickly feeling on the back of my neck, it was because there was noone around.
I was on a trail on private land that had been clearcut some years before. The owner had replanted, but all of it with one kind of tree.
I got about 15 minutes in when I felt that feeling. That was when I realized there were no sounds. I looked around and realized there was no underbrush, no birds or animals, not even insects.
Spookiest place I have ever been. By the time I got to the other side, my pulse was skyrocketing, and it was all I could do not to start running.
Cryptid perhaps?
@@bunnyfan9960 Nope, just trees. My lizard brain freaked because it was so unnatural.
**( I · "AccidentaLLy" · Wandered Into A StrNge (&) · "SimiLar" · Wooded Area Not Far From My Home Before !
According to Slartibartfast from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy that's just plain paranoia, and we all suffer from it from time to time
Lack of diversity in the plants will cause a lack of diversity in the wildlife. When you're alone in a normal forest, there are no sounds nearby but some sounds in the distance because the critters that make noise hear you stomping around and stay quiet. However, when a predator is in the vicinity, even those distant sounds will stop. _That_ is why you feel unsettled in a quiet forest - our distant ancestors who were put on edge by an unusually quiet forest were more likely to either avoid the roaming predator or be prepared to deal with it. That was an instinct that served them well, so they more often lived, and those without it more often died. Now just about everyone has it, though it seldom comes up anymore.
The privacy aspect of this video is silly. It would be a lot easier to track where an individual goes, what they buy, and who they associate with using data from their cellphone, credit card, and social media than by satellite. Facial recognition would be difficult with only a centimeter resolution image of the top of someone's head.
I mean, our phones are constantly tracking us and we have a camera looking right at us whenever we glance at them.
Some cover their cameras. Apple's original cam that mounted on a monitor had a mechanical iris to ensure it couldn't see. Hmm... Steve Jobs died younger than many.
@@psycotria I have a shutter case for the rear cam... and not because I want to protect the lense either. Front cameras tho... those are a different story. I've seen sticker blockers, but they can mess with the capacitive touch interface, adaptive brightness and potentially some other inane functions.
Idk. For how many times I've used my phone on the toilet or any other embarrassing scenarios.... like... meh. It's more the tracking than monitoring that really bothers me.
Apple, google, facebook, your cell company….they know what you do and think yesterday, today, and tomorrow
I paint the camera that faces me on my older iPad with a super thick black nail polish that is totally opaque in one coat with two coats. It’s amazing nail polish. I have to replace it every couple of months when it peels off.
@@RacerRich1 Yarp! Literally this.
Remember when friends or family would be the ones to recommend shows or products? Like: "have you not seen/tried *blank*"
Now it's just a corporate algorithm jamming it into our feeds with recommendations better than anyone we know could offer.
Don't even get me started on misinformation or general data collection.
My dad used to build spy satellites. I'm not sure which series, though. It was classified at the time, but once it was declassified, they had a lady come talk to them and provide more details about what it was they were working on. One of his coworkers asked if they could tell if a guy was on his deck reading a newspaper. See replied, "We could tell you what newspaper they're reading." I've always assumed, based on atmospheric distortion, that she didn't mean they could read the text, but could compare the formatting against known copies of that day's paper from various sources, but still quite impressive. And that was 20+ years ago. Of course, these days I'd be much more afraid of a rogue Webcam or microphone, than I would of a satellite. Everyone who installed the TikTok app, basically gave the Chinese Communist Party full access to turn on their camera and microphone remotely, anytime they want.
Wow
Don't just claim things like that if they're not true. iPhone prohibits TikTok to use the Camera and Microphone when the app is not in use. That doesn't mean that TikTok (or any other app) is not a safety threat, which in my opinion it is, but there are security measures by Apple that work very good as of now.
I wouldn't make the same claim for Android because security and Android don't go well together but I didn't make any research on that.
@@denisdeari1 tik tok is not secure.
@denisdeari1 wtf r u bullshitting right now apple boy?? 😂 Android and privacy don't go well togerher? Do your research and then you can talk about that.
@@denisdeari1Read the terms
Imagine how advanced we would've been had we not been at eachother's throat every second.
Yes, just imagine using the world's military budgets for benefit rather than aggression (or, allegedly, protection against aggression). 🤔
actually, war and conflict were the greatest forces to impact ingenuity and technology, not peace. just look at the rapid evolution of planes brought on by the pressures of war. conflict and competition are the impetuses for everything. like it or not.
@@billphilips8522 Imagine if aliens attacked us
Imagine how fucked we'd be if we just assumed everyone was good and had our best interests at heart.
@@johnd5398 amen.
I have 8 surveillance cameras Facing upwards in every direction above my house. I see Satellites? And other "Light Objects" ? Move, blink, turn off turn back on, occasionally a Lighted Zooming across the sky. Mostly at night. So im watching "Them" Watch Me.
This comment hit me ! I’m a star gazer, and I can tell you that while I usually only see commercial jets, I often see one extremely tiny blink of a white light, much higher than the commercial jets. I’m guessing those are low orbit satellites? They’ll blink once and then not again for quite a while. So, you are correct!
I go out a lot of nights, walking with my dog and infrared camera/ scope. on occasions I will see something larger than stars, drones, planes, not visible except for the infrared scooting along at a pretty good rate. Not as big as the moon.Any clues? Not meth related.
@@bigbadhag"... Not meth related." 🤣😂😅😁I'm dead!
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@@bigbadhagI came to tell you meth is near impossible to quit, and you're most likely doomed, but I see you're already in the denial/mask stage, so I'll just let the addiction take its course. Enjoy.
My father worked for the NSA most of my life. He told me in the '80's that whatever tech the government had was at least 20yrs ahead of what they admit and that at that time we had satellites that could read a license plate or at night detect a flare as small as someone lighting a match.
I remember my father telling me in 1980 that we had satellites that were so clear you could read the newspaper over someone's shoulder sitting in Red Square
He was correct. My dad got a degree in computer science in 1970. He said the same thing almost to the word. What we see has been around 20 years and they have what we will see in 20 years.
I never had much interest in computers so I didn't pick his brain much but I do remember around the time Reagan got shot, he was talking about windows and IBM. In 86 he promptly quit the office life and spent the rest of his life selling bait dressed in overalls and no shirt most of the time. People had no idea how smart he was but he would always say the morality of humans can't handle computers
@@jayh1734 The moralityi of humans can't handle computers. Makes perfect sense looking at the world today.
And it´s still not sufficient to find "people of interrest"? Remember how long it took to find Osama or other "friends" of your government 🤡
makes one wonder though why osama bin laden took them some time to snuff. if they had a general location on him + eyes and ears on his activities , how come he wasn't stopped immediately? i reckon directing satellite paths won't be much of a problem for all powerful entities in the us gov't.
As someone who is in their senior year of an Emergency Management and Homeland Security major, yeah this stuff is scary as hell and the government and corporations are watching / listening to you aggregating your data all day every day
yeah, the government uses those companies to stay legal, wouldn't be legal if it was a government agency doing it
So?
@@djenkins555 get a life dude
Wow,like another person commented,if they are watching me,how bored are those watching?my day to day sure isn't worth watching in my opinion,and if it is,I want payment.
And you are spending years of your
Life going to school to become
One of the people.
I’m not too bothered ,personally, by the notion of being “tracked”, but philosophically I think the diminishment of privacy for all is a real danger for society, if it empowers the government without helping also to limit it.
I don't care if they can see me. I care if the show up on my property. My property line is where their rights end.
@@sid2112 Typical american airheads convo. LMAO i wanna screenshot these two replies and post it somewhere for laughs.
@@a59x The sheep generally laugh at the bears until the wolves come to eat them. Good luck little lamb.
@@sid2112 Point proven.
@@a59x I live in Eastern Europe. The American is quite right. There's a very large cemetery here full of people who found out the hard way what an overzealous police state is like, and they didn't have technology anywhere close to what's available now. Trust me, if there was a way to tax the carrots growing in your garden they would. And now they probably could. Who knows, maybe "airhead" will be moved up the naughty word list one day soon and you'll get a knock on the door.
I noticed a mistake.
"Once the technology is here, if ever the government in posession of it decides to use it for more invasive goals, there's not much that can be done to stop them."
Should have been...
"Once the technology is here, when the government in posession of it decides to use it for more invasive goals, there's not much that can be done to stop them."
It is an inevitibility.
You are quite intelligent, well put!
I worked with a guy that was retired naval intelligence. He said in the mid 1980s, he was already working with satellites that I could see inside of buildings. Whatever the public is aware of, is usually decades old technology
"could see inside of buildings?" So much for privacy during sex.
I agree. Today's satellites can modify DNA with microwaves to make your future children more obedient.
The first question for the friend of a stranger would be HOW? There are not even land based cameras, where size and weight are not a concern, that can see through a single layer of 30# roofing felt.
God, and you believe him? People really will Believe anything😂😂😂😂
@@markdaniel8740he lying, him or his friend, you pick. No cameras are seeing through walls😂😂😂😂
The problem with videos exposing privacy violations, like this one, is that everyone just goes "Oh NO!" and then moves on with their day and don't change a thing.
Why is that a problem, according to you?
and what exactly are you doing about it? have you tried running for an office or are you just posting "oh noes" online and then crying when nothing happens.
@@CSArtWrks Actually I have been doing stuff about it. I make it a goal of mine to use as much free software (free as in freedom) as possible. I host pretty much everything myself that I can including email, I have only linux installed on my computers, and I'm using an open source front end for youtube as I type this right now. I also have written to my local and state representatives regarding privacy, and most importantly, I vote. If more people make steps like these we can make a change.
@@rigelb9025 imagine every single thing you do beeing public to anyone interrested... we are heading there and that is a problem
@@BabyKnxckz Yes, I get that, and I don't like it either. The basic jist of my question was this : What do you think the common generic person (myself included) can *actually do* about 'it', if anything.
They don't need to be able to read phone screens lol. The phone itself and the networks it connects to provide them with all the info they need.
exactly this is just fearmongering
Thousands of satellites and yet nobody knows where is flight MH370
So they say...
My father who worked as an electrical engineer for Lockheed mention to me that they had satellites in the early 1960’s that could read license plates. But many satellites at that time and were short lived because they used real film. Digital is much higher resolution. Echelon system is the main surveillance system right now.
Echelon system?
@@FireLightning-mi4vb, a system developed by Lockheed Sunnyvale to eaves drop and record every electronic communication in the world. Began as a Cold War system to eavesdrop on the soviets. There are well over 400 echelon satellites currently. Google to get more info. Privacy is a myth.
Lockheed & its connection to possession of USP material/ reverse engineering, sound familiar?
My father also worked for them and he told me they already had tech to retrieve rockets back to earth in 1960's. Where do you think Musk took his ideas and tech from?
@@llamerryeah, that's why no one thought of using it until Musk, I love a good conspiracy theory. Please, tell another one
I was conducting an experiment at an Army base in Georgia on a Govt research program. We asked if we could take pictures of the site and setup. Not allowed but they could supply pics that were screened and approved. 2 days later they hand me photo taken by a satellite of the site. Then he hands me one of me and my colleague and it was like it was taken from 10 feet away. Doesn't matter security CCTV cameras have every populated area covered all ready. Your phone tells them where it is 24/7.
maybe in china, not in the rest of the world, but we are getting there fast, what's concerning is how we're using chinese technology at a a time that china views the west as a combatant enemy
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There should be no unsolved crime, but yet I have never heard of this surveillance being used to solve any crime.
it has, but we never hear about it because it's a felony to reveal investigative techniques within a court setting
Spy satellites are for intelligence community operations not law enforcement.
As an amateur astronomer, I have some doubts about claims of less than 1 meter resolution from 500 kilometers high, as air pollution and humidity blurs the picture. Magnifications of more than 1000 times are close to impossible, unless you are located high up in the Atachama desert and use adapted optics, but the radar technique may be able to make a slightly better resolution. But why be scared by that, since we all run around with a smartphone in our pocket which also records our purchases and conversations🙂
One good reason to always pay with cash.
They can definitely get good sub-meter resolution imagery (20 cm for example is available commercially), but as you say there are atmospheric conditions that make the acquisition of single-digit cm imagery impossible most of the time. BTW, perigees for most longer duration intelligence agency imagery satellites are around 150-200 km.
I have a problem with 42,000 starlink satellites, that I am forced to look at the rest of my life. It really seems like a step back in technology if now it takes thousands of satellites to do what one did before.
Starlink isn't just about doing "what one did before" it's providing internet to those who never had it before or couldn't afford it before.
There is a hell of a lot more going on than that.
What 1 satellite did is not what Starlink does. 42.000 satellites should have at least 200.000 times more capacity for carrying data (42.000 * (100 times closer resulting in higher SNR) / less focused antennae as it uses beam-forming instead of parabola).
@@sendintheclowns7305 With the prices they have? I doubt that.
@@RamsesTheFourth
I pay $50 LESS per month for MUCH FASTER internet since I've gotten Starlink. For those of us who's only choice is satellite internet Starlink is the cheapest option available. It's also a much better service than the more expensive options.
I'm as guilty as the next person, but I really think we need to unplug from tech and rediscover each other face to face....
Nice sentiment but too late. Tech is soon going to unplug us. AGI > ASI > Paperclips
Bro gives us agoraphobia and then suggests therapy. Iconic
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Ikr? I thought that was weird...😂😂
@@C-Here ahahaaaaaaaa
If this were true then there should be absolutely no crime. Every crime committed would have already been documented, the license plates all readable, the identities of every murderer identifiable. Why do police ask for any dashcam footage when there is already spectacular quality images available?
Bcs they dont care about crime also its prob still not as good as stated here and would be lots of effort todo. Also it would confirm it wich the gov woudnt like either. Why leak confidential info over someone getting killed? They would kill themselved to keep things a seecret
@@BabyKnxckz Doesn't make sense. Lots of taxpayer's money goes to investigating crimes that they would already know whodunnit, not to mention court costs, etc. Government could free up all that money for their own pet projects or for war and weapons, which they would far rather do.
@@l.5832 it is more effort to actually look at all that data and figure it out than to just say sorry but we didnt find the guy.
@@l.5832 also ur assuming the goverment is one thing there is many different interrestd involved.
Not enough manpower to enforce that much. Wait until AI does all the work for them
So long ago I remember reading in a publicly available source that under ‘optimal conditions’, and those two words are key, license plates could be read. Optimal conditions don’t occur very often.
that was long ago
You know the laser-guide-star trick works just as well in the other direction, right? Optimal conditions are no longer required.
you mean like optimal conditions like an eclipse today when everyone will stand still and show their faces to the sky?
@@neurostreams illumination would be far fron optimal..
This is a myth. License plates are not oriented to be read from above the car. And at an oblique angle, near tangent to the curve of the earth the telescope would be not only at its maximal distance, but peering diagonally thru the greatest thickness of atmosphere.
I have a telescope and binoculars. I can watch them watching me, and see how they like it.
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Very well done video, I think it could've been great to also go over the fairly large limitations of satellites also, especially when you consider their orbits, latency and limited bandwidth communicating with them. When you consider this it makes sense that targets for observation need to be carefully considered and prioritized. Given the limitations, higher levels of detail is not always the most important thing. Things like real time observations of relatively small targets is not always feasible, for many military applications this can leave blind spots, this is why drones are critical to fill in the gaps that satellites fail to cover. Drones are often far better at gathering information in most ways, and they're cheaper in every way including logistics and operations, this is why most countries prioritize development and procurement of drones over satellites.
Well said. Was thinking the same. It's sounds like a lot but compared to billions of people it's nothing. Also people need to understand that they're not worth the money to follow.
I've not run the numbers, but im quite sure that with those 11 "eyes" up there it would be impossible - and by a very large margin - to for example monitor Time Square 24/7/365.
Would be quite interesting to run the numbers jsut to get a feeling for what it possible and what not... but for now I'm not too vorried for the near future.
@@AkantorJojo "Run the numbers" on an optical collection area the size of a football field in GEO. They would have 24/7 coverage.
Bandwidth is not a problem for government spy sats. They have far more than anyone would be able to obtain commercially, because they have a monopoly on their own networks.
@@stuartgray5877 except such an orbital telescope does not currently exist. There is not even any optical telescope that size today anywhere... not even close.
and besides... GEO is not an ideal location for observation... you miss a lot of things that hide behind buildings and mountains on higher latitudes... like time square.
Hate when person is missing,person is vanished without trace,what about these military satellite video tracking,they could zoom fly from space with these satelites,that means they could see and track anyone but they dont want to find missing persons.
Not when in all probability they are involved in some of the disappearances.
Good point. I am confident with satellite technology the feds know what happened the morning four students were stabbed to death in Moscow, Idaho.
Because they are used to protect the security of the country/nato countries not what you are suggesting
@@sarahlamb2333yeah that’s what they’re saying? they could solve lots of missing person cases and ACTIVELY CHOOSE NOT TO. That is a shitty choice that further proves the government does not and will not ever care for us. we have to realize that and stop begging them for a modicum of respect that they will never think us worthy of. we are cattle to them, genuinely.
@@notahumanbeing6892 that is a very narrow view you have..if said missing person was thought to be being held by terrorists they would look for them..drones can be used to find missing people & are..so what you are saying doesn't make sense
We could have multiple Hubbles looking out at the universe, furthering science and the future of humanity. Instead, they are pointed back at ourselves, fuelled by distrust and suspicion.
Nope. Looking out doesn't "further science" or humanity. It only cures curiosity. Knowing how big or how many galaxies there are has zero application.
Studying the interesting part of our planet (however one may define "interesting" here) seems to be more profitable.
@@francus7227Science is not about application. Applications grow from science. Supplementary information is just as necessary as key information.
@@loon894
Duh..... There's already plenty of evidence that the speed of light is so slow in relation to the size of the known universe that any studies past our solar system are nothing more that a hobby. I'm am PRO HOBBY. But I am anti masking a hobby as a functional need for the sole purpose of getting money to support that hobby from others that don't enjoy the same hobby.
It will be a cold day in the fictional place call Hell before you teach me something about the Heavens or anything else. But.... I'll always take a listen just in case because I always like to learn something new.
It's Us vs [Them], fueled by [Their] Hatred.
It is [Their] desire to eliminate Most, and keep just enough Dumb ones; just smart enough to operate their machines. -
paraphrased - George Carlin
Absolutely excellent topic to explore - and done wonderfully well. The whole thing scares the bejesus out of me. One centimeter satellite pixel resolution, AI/ChatGPT social management for profit, never-ending nuclear annihilation threats .... Can't we just quietly, peacefully explore the Cosmos around us?
Actually, 1 cm resolution can't be done from space. Scientists figured out that better than 5cm is impossible - because of atmospheric interference - back in the 60s. Also, the Key Hole series of satellites have been tremendously helpful to science. Al Gore was able to convince the NRO to declassify a treasure-trove of pictures from those early Corona satellites mentioned in the video for scientific purposes. Scientists were able to learn much about weather patterns and environmental impacts (including the shrinking of the Aral Sea) by pouring over this data. That's without even getting into how much KH-11 helped the Hubble Space Telescope, and the even bigger benefit a KH-11 follow-on program brought to the upcoming Nancy Grace Roman telescope. Also, the National Reconnaissance Office has less than half the budget of NASA. It's not an impediment to science - we can study the cosmos and monitor authoritarian regimes at the same time.
Not while we elect people who put profit above planet. Not while people can amass so much wealth, they can severely impact elections, if not completely buy them. Not with the current power structures. And not without solving the human condition.
Who knows maybe they will be able to gene edit to prevent greed, lust for power, violence etc but the current world we built needs to be drastically changed if we are to live in peace.
The Israelis war against a terror org thats been ongoing for 75 years creates generational hate. That hate spreads and infects. especially now with technology. Its one thing to hear 1200 Israelis dead in a terror attack and a completely different thing to watch videos of the massacre of those people.
We just are not there yet, and I dont think we will with current civilization. Maybe God did have a flood once to reset us, seems we may have deserved it if they were like us.
No.
Shareholders wont be too happy about that
@@AngeloXification Maybe it would be better for all of us if shareholders went extinct, then.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If someone is watching me via surveillance cameras, drones, or heaven forbid satellites. Then they are some extremely bored people and could probably find something way more interesting to watch. But if they are in fact watching me, then I feel flattered that someone out there has so much interest in little ol me
It would only take one nuke destroying a city to convince everyone that the intelligence community needed more funding, rather than complaining about privacy concerns.
We already have trackers in our pockets, even if people think they can turn them off.
You can just not carry them. Nobody with half a brain who is trying to be covert will carry a phone, or any other radio capable device, as they move around.
Uhh, not if you take them out of your pocket and leave it somewhere. Has that really never occurred to you?
This happened decades ago: Some science entity or science magazine, can't remember, had a contest to see who in the public could determine what was in a photo. No one figured it out. _It was the dimples on a golf ball taken from a satellite!_
If I trusted my government to both regulate commercial use and to not abuse it themselves, then I don't think I'd be too bothered. Perhaps the benefits you mentioned could _potentially_ outweigh the risks. The thing is, I don't trust my government, not one tiny bit.
It was back in the 1960's ,when the U2 spy plane was in operation, it was claimed they could read the headline on the front page of a newspaper from someone sitting on a park bench. Now they can define covered objects....
10:24 no,i am so not worried about some satellite watching me...I'm not that important lol
Tell that to the space lizards
@@MischeviousGP nah
Ahhh but you are
First time i used google earth was back in 2010. I looked around the area i lived at the time, Sydney. When i looked at Bondi Beach i was amazed at the detail and clarity, you could tell men from women their clothing colour. Even saw a shark swimming off shore, well its dark outline and i could define its shape easily. When you look now its nowhere near as clear and detailed. It was a lot clearer then that iranian rocket sight photo.
They are using aerial photography, not satellite, for high density places. Hence huge difference in resolution on these maps. Plus they update it only once a few years.
That poor shark did not want its picture posted on the internet!
@kf62w6 you have ZERO expectation of privacy in public.... they probably blurred the sharks face anyway. 😂
@@fishrowe420surprisingly, google does do this! lmfao. Not for sharks obviously but they do it for faces and license tags
In the early 2000s a friend and I went on a "different"Google maps,it was a live satellite feed and I know it was live,we mucked around in it for half an hour or so,should have see the phone/internet bill that arrived the next month!!!!😮
They've been able to read license plates from space for 30+ years... How long until spy satellites are mostly obsolete? Most of us carry a minimum of 2 cameras and a microphone with us everywhere. Pegasus can turn every phone into a spy satellite.
30 years , and you know this because ?
@@stelamoHubble space telescope
@@stelamo The SR71/A12 and U2 could do it in the 60's. Do you think that the tech has gotten better or worse?
not a satelite@@youwillneverguess
he said hubble couldnt do that , the other 11 satelites like hubble cant do that @@VictorGarciaR
If I was a super rich person, I'd put and weaponize many satellites in the space to watch me and my family, to be guardian angels.
Crazy how good this technology is supposed to be, yet it fails to do the most simple task like catching predators
Ikr criminals escape for years 😂
As a sex offender myself, they do a terrible job. Self snitching seems to be the only way.
You think the government cares about criminals who victimize regular citizens?
Catching predators doesn’t make money for the Corporations.
That's because the point of the technology is not to catch predators...
It's kinda funny that most people who are posting everything on social media on what they were doing are the ones whose concern about privacy
Imagine one day the satellites have a pile up, like what happens on a congested freeway.
Except the debris from the crash eventually hits every other car on all the highways
I was ounce told about military satellites that could actually spot a golf ball from space-this was almost 25 years ago…
They now can probably see tardigrades from space 🤣
They can locate golf-ball sized debris in orbit around the earth
The sensor resolution isn't the only thing that increases overall resolution. The optics matter, and as resolution is increased by focal length increases, field of view gets much smaller.
Your need 1,000,000 of these 500m^2 fields, to blanket cover the 3% of urban land in the USA.
No one should be worried about this tech, unless it happens to be specifically pointed at you for some reason. And if that's the case, there will also be eyes on you down here too.
This was an unnecessarily fear inducing video,but I'm sure the clicks were good.
We are making a ai's paradise. It's almost like we automaticaly do what the old future movie concepts did back then.
It's almost like the things that could empower bad AI are similar to the things that could empower good AI...
@@ltloxa1159 you never know where it will go but people that control such things usaly have alot of powers and self interests to
@@ltloxa1159everything is like that
i don't think anyone watching this could or should think they are actually important enough for a government to actually watch them or care what you do on a daily basis. people get so paranoid about privacy, and yeah it sucks, but it is mostly for advertising which makes it super annoying and not on the side of being beneficial. and also most people assume governments are actually some big, well put together, organized and intelligent body... i can assure you they are not, at least the ones i know.
Agreed except that a wanker like Canadian pm Trudeau froze the bank accounts of protesting truck drivers and THEN the bank account of folks who donated money to a GoFundMe for their benefit...that's when it gets dodgy...
Totally agree with you. There is no such thing as an organization that can monitor every single person. Satellites have small flyby windows so at best they can record stuff for review at a later date. They don't just hover or sit in space and track your every movement for the day. Most importantly, there are a lot of stupid and lazy folks that work in the government. Also, a room full of analysts have better things to do than watch the average Joe who stole a bagel from the gas station. People get paid to only watch high value targets. Most of the time, they can't even get that right.
Honestly, as an extraordinarily boring human being, I'm flattered they're watching me
Nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose and an idea
I am blown away by this presentation. Where did you find all this information?
He’s a super spy 🕵️
It's propaganda. There are no satellites in orbit. If you believe this nonsense then you don't have have any sense.
Walmart sells a book on saddle eyes
Say goodbye to a clear view of the night sky. 42,000 Star Link satellites would be ridiculous. Why, there ought to be a law...no, really, some regulation before it's too late!
I don't know where you live but, given the Light pollution coming from many cities, you can already say goodbye to a clear view of the night sky. So maybe we should do something about that.
Would you be prepared to support Regulations to govern THAT?
Those aren't the issue...the real issue is SAI.
Stratospheric aerosol Injection.
AKA...Kem trails
SL satellites are so small they're practically imperceptible to the naked eye unless you looking for them directly. You do know how large the surface area of the Earth is right? That surface area becomes much larger when you are in orbit. I can guarantee those SL satellites are going to zero difference in night time viewing.
@@heathb4319SL don't have those capabilities, that's tinfoil hat talk. Yes, there are organisations out there that use chemicals to alter weather but these chemicals are not harmful to us on the ground, it's mostly silver nitrates/nitrites to help it rain in dry areas.
So far there is only "4500" starlink up there. They've also made them dark so as not to disturb observers. They are also small, so they don't really obstruct the view.
Start with - how many Hubble mirrors are facing downward - over a dozen. In 1988 I interviewed at a company that was processing satellite photos and using a computer to automatically “stitch” them together into one larger tapestry. Among the photos I saw during the interview, one could clearly see the claws on a claw hammer and distinguish fingers on a hand holding the hammer - this implies a 1cm resolution in 1988 …
Perkin-Elmer in Connecticut manufactured those mirrors.
What about optics color during the process. Is it "red ray"...
Overhead (space-based) cameras are 1 part of the equation,. but realistically any time you step outside your home,.. the amount of things gathering data on you is pretty immense. Any one in a relatively modern city is probably on 100's (if not 1000's) of different security cameras per day. Any traffic system you drive through is likely logged your anonymized Bluetooth MAC devices. (it's how they predict traffic flow). Any purchase you make might indicate a pattern of travel. Those could be used for the wrong reasons,.. but that data could save you to if you need to prove an alibi or justification why you were in a certain place.
Yea it just seems like, there's so much data on so many people that there isn't enough People to look through it all lmao, especially when there's no reason to
@@Kratos_TM Nobody uses actual people to look through the data any more,. it's all done by algorithms or search-filters or AI networks. If I remember correctly the NSA came out years ago and said it had a "big data problem" (to much data). Their problem isn't the amount of data (you actually want the largest set possible, because that helps you find more accurate patterns). If you have 10 million people in a city, you don't need to know what all 10 million of them are doing. You only need to somehow mark or identify certain patterns. If for example you suspect drugs are being sold out of a certain warehouse,. you only need data on vehicles or people that go to that warehouse.
@jasonnugent963 I see, I wish we could have some more privacy overall but in the world we live in, it would be tough to give up all of the advancements we've made for privacy
@@Kratos_TM wrote, _"tough to give up all of the advancements we've made for privacy"_
if world war 3 were to happen overnight, and you woke up to an impossibly damaged infrastructure, you would instantly lose online access to everything: voice, internet, gps, etc. If you're older, like me, that's just not an issue at all. I regularly turn-off my phone, leave it at home when i run errands, etc. I lived through childhood into adulthood without any digital devices and I did just fine across the board.
That's a pretty stark contrast with the past generation or two as of today. They seem to need some sort of plug-in to do just about anything, and the idea of even one waking hour without their phone seems to rattle them. Stepping back to see the bigger picture, this is actually a massive vulnerability in the U.S. because if some hostile actor were to disable our infrastructure badly enough, it seems that roughly half the U.S. population wouldn't know how to exist, much less survive.
@Teal-De-Yarr Yea thats very true, I'm in my early twenties and it's a huge fear of mine tbh. Lived the latter half of my life with complete access to the internet so of course I'm used to having it lol
I remember buying satellite footage back in the late 90s, of JFK airport, for a commercial. I'm in visual effects.
Pretty sure this would be illegal today, I do remember buying the highest resolution available to the public at the time. And it was in the range of around 50 cm or so, if not less. You could clearly make out wings and details of planes on the runway.
yes but that isn't real time... and that data is still available to buy... still expensive even just for a few sq mile of simple height dem
Yup, I know it was very pricey at the time..
nah, it's more legal today than ever before, google maps does exist
All technology can be used either by good people or bad people, this is why governments must be kept in check by the citizens
and then those governments must be held responsible for writing fair & just laws that hold corporations in check!
Dreamer
Yeah, but it's an asymmetrical relationship. Evil will win because it doesn't have moral limitations. It's already possible (of course) to influence people of certain political leanings not to vote and let them know that they'll be seen going to the polls if they go there. Keeping a sustainable and ethical system requires order that can be more easily destroyed than it can be preserved. Evil will rise from the chaos.
I always wondered who it is that be writing them fairytale books .
My dad used to get popular science and Mechanics magazines, I remember in the 50s of early 60s they could read a license plate in a parking lot with some kind of thermal camera , doesn't sound all that scary , until you know that they were looking at the pictures in the evening , after the cars had all left. By now , we are bugs in a jar.
Everything you say and do is contently being monitored if you are anywhere near a networked device. Been that way for a very long time.
been more apparent sense 2003, it's a problem now because the ones controlling the surveillance are corrupt now, no one following the rules anymore on both sides
People provide such much details of their life on social media voluntarily nobody needs to bother spying on them.
**Some** people. Not all. Satellites provide 'eyes' in the scenario where a person doesn't use technology much, if at all. Don't imagine that just because you don't see the value of it, that there isn't any value to be seen. The world is a much darker place than most people realize, and it's in that 4th quadrant -- _what you don't know, that you don't know_ -- where the dark magic weaves its spell.
Exactly!
Well that whole apparatus is part & parcel of the 'spying' mechanism. A spy is someone (or something) that gets you to disclose far more information than you normally would.
Also, they believe so much importance in themselves that they think anyone is curious about them
There already exists drones which can do the job better, and it has been utilized in warfare. Flying above a target city there was an IED attack. They pulled up the Drone recording and looked at the spot until they backtracked to the people planting the IED, Going forward in the footage they followed them back to their hideout in the recording, was one of the biggest IED factories in the area.
You’re dead wrong, a drone can’t record anywhere near the vast area a satellite can, not even close.
@@1BobsYourUncle RQ-4 laughs at your comment from 16km height. FYI it gives something like 500 000 sq. km to observe.
@@justunfoe China wanted their balloon back too which was simply another method of high altitude monitoring.
yep, make a plan of action, then boom, mahola
@@justunfoe Laugh all you want, you’re wrong.
They say they know where every plane is BUT when a large passenger plane disappears they sometimes can't even say what area they disappeared. Thousands of satellites in the year .. joke
I love fear mongering in the morning
When do you love realism?
I thought for sure this was going to be a NordVPN video. Pleasantly surprised.
Same 👍👍👍
Great video! I think it's scary to see how many satellites have been added in such a short while. Wouldn't they all come down eventually as well, crashing down on earth maybe, also from all the collisions? And also maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't it make space travel more difficult at some point?
A few articles wrote space debris is going to be exponential lethal shrapnel halting further venturing...
In short, yes, to both. Most of our space debris is small enough that it'll burn up completely on reentry. The idea of the trash becoming too difficult to navigate is a real problem, though the specific name escapes me. Even just a stray bolt can put a hole in a space ship.
Look up Kessler syndrome.
They're not all at the same distance from Earth, the area they are in is immense. The chance they will collide is extremely low, but it will happen one day if we keep increasing satellites at the current increasing rate
Just imagine Elon Musk getting into a hissy fit and launching a box of 1000 screws into orbit just because he didn't like some Joe Schmoe saying he shouldn't do it.
Thx u for informing us l,and being so thorough. simply enjoy videos❤❤
Nearmap in Australia is an incredible resource. Multiple pods mounted on planes, giving regular updates at sub 10cm resolution under flight paths, at different angles.
There are commercially available satellites people can get data from, for example, a person might just have a randomly assigned arbitrary number, and then use that to track where they go what they do, etc.. and I wouldn’t really call this a “new” thing
The state of Maryland in the US has planes that fly 24/7 and record the cities. I first heard about it from my uncle who is a pilot Who flies out of the airport where those planes fly from and then a few years later, I saw something where Congress was upset about it and mentioned more details about it. I don't know what good it does them because they have some of the highest crime in the entire country, and they don't have great success rates on prosecution.
Sorry, they do not fly 24/7. And aerial imagery would have little to no value in crime solving unless it were sheer, astronomically good luck.
I don’t know about 24/7 but as an airplane mechanic I’ve seen and ridden on a Pilates PC12 that had a ball camera that lowered out of the tail. The cabin had a few seats and a console for the operator of the camera. The outside of the plane was painted with Dept of Homeland Security. They weren’t hiding anything, but made it to look like a business jet (turboprop).
@@nutandboltguy3720 yeah, the 24/7 statement makes no sense - what could they capture flying in the dark? Secondly, one plane flying daylight hours cannot revisit, let’s say an area even the size of Baltimore (much less the entire state), in a short period of time, so they are capturing snapshots in time, not real-time tracking. Thirdly Maryland as a state is not even in the top 10 of states with the highest crime rates. So that doesn’t make sense. Lastly, putting a camera in the tail of an airplane is absolutely the worst place to put it, making high quality aerial imagery much more difficult than placing a camera at the center of gravity/center of aerodynamic control.
It appears that the airplanes you mentioned could be part of the Air Domain Awareness and Protection of the National Airspace System program. The program is conducting long-term evaluation of various surveillance technologies at this time. With a brief look, I have not been able to find more detailed information than a fact sheet from April 2021.
@plasmaman9592 is correct in this statement, its been used in Mexico. I saw a report on the company that makes the drone here on YT a few years ago and they did mention Maryland as the test market for this technology for the United States but they couldn't get past those pesky civil liberties we have to blanket surveil everyone. Doing a quick search, I cannot find anything about the company now, and cannot recall the name of it. The company was based in the Untied States though, maybe Florida, IDK. I just remember being shocked at what they could do with it. In the case they outlined in this particular news story, they had a random murder (surprise) on the streets of Mexico, the cops had no witnesses and no other clues than a dead guy. From the drone footage, they were able to go to the place on the map where the guy was killed, saw who killed him, dropped a little green box on the getaway car, and followed it in reverse all the way back to their hideout. It basically recorded everything in the whole city at once but they could pinpoint any part of a city street and walk their way back through the whole series of the murder. If I can find the name of the company I will add an edit to this comment, but this is real. The reason they aren't solving murders in the United States with this tech is because they would have to present it in court as part of the defenses discovery if they used it to charge someone with a crime. Just because they aren't solving murders with it doesn't mean this tech isn't in use already.
This only served to remind me that people will always consider other lands as potential enemies before friends
Another innovation to consider is the advent of "AI" image and video upscaling. Modern image processing software and hardware can increase an image's resolution by about x8, with surprising accuracy and clarity. That's just the commercially available upscalers you can buy for a couple of hundred dollars, who knows what the military has.
That's still inventing details, not increasing the information in the image, so it's counter-productive for real data gathering.
There is no such thing as AI image enhancement. This is inventing new information not getting more out of available information…
So? You can not use the upscaling for anything. The upscaler only GUESSES what is there, it does not know what is there. You can not extract any more information from, than what was captured originally. It does not matter what the military has, because they can not magically gain more information from an image.
The thing with AI upscaling is, that the AI only blurts out an estimation of what could be the result at the higher resolution, but not actually the real result. In other words: the AI makes up stuff. AI upscaling is thus useless for such reconnaissance purposes, because you don't know, whether the image you get from the AI is actually true.
It's making predictive interpretations based on training, not only with millions of similar images, but also the full set of images taken of the subject, in chronological order. Having a series of photos, with slightly shifting perspectives as the satellite moves across the area, would provide important additional information on which to base the predictions.
You wouldn't use upscaled images exclusively; you would use them in comparison to the original images. You wouldn't use them to identify the presence of objects in the image, just to interpret the already visible ones.
Analysts already make predictions about missing detail in their assessments of images, however the upscaler would generally be better at predicting details than the analysts. The analyst could always reject the interpretation the upscaled image provides if they think it is inaccurate.
I remember hearing a US Intelligence official describing the abilities of spy satellites back in the 1980's which he claimed could read a newspaper someone was holding in a park - from low earth orbit? The metal group Judas Priest wrote a song about it called "Electric Eye".
They were already doing that in the late 60's. They could count the threads on a baseball back then and today who knows what they are able to do.
In the 80s? I doubt it. But im sure they could see a peraon in a car very clear.
They could read license plates in the 90s
No i highly doubt that. The resolution for that would be insane.
@@Ron-zr6seno they didn't. We wouldn't have needed spy planes if that were true. Obviously it's all classified but it's a safe bet that ultra high res sats were in play when we stopped using spy planes.
It's just a part of the puzzle. The data is combined and cross referenced with other data like surveillance cameras, phone data, google maps also tracks your location etc. That's where the real danger is. Even if the resolution isn't enough to directly recognize someone, linked to date and time with other footage you can track cars and people that way even if it is just 10 pixels.
Coupled with ai and trainee map and security camera data it can sift through huge piles of data. And ai can also enhance resolution by combining sources.
I think we should realize anonimity is only protected by the operators good will. As of yet, lookimg people up has a tremendous cost so it's for now unlikely everyone is being monitored by people but ai and processing power keep improving by leaps and bounds.
yeah, it's already part of a existing megasystem of national security and law enforcement tools used for forensic processes, it's cyberspace we need to worry about and the cyberwar
They're not watching me, I have no money.
title lowkey scared the sh*t out of me
The "imagine if they were uses for science instead of spying" line is all well and good and a lovely thought but it misses the realities of the world. Without conflict and governments wanting the technology for surveilance then this technology and many others would not even exist. Chances are we would still not have put a man on the moon. Conflict is, and has always been the single biggest driver of scientific technology.
true
It doesn't have to be though. It only is because we are constantly in conflict. If even a quarter of the resources put into militaries was diverted to scientific study, there would be more than enough innovation.
@@Pushing_Pixels A good proportion of what you consider as military spending is scientific research. The guy names Lockheed Martin as one of the two main competitors to build the telescope. They are in that position because they are one of the biggest (I assume the biggest, I might be wrong) producers of military equipment. Self guided missiles didn't just appear when money became available.
I get that in your perfect utopia we all just get along and have a desire for scientific research for it's own sake. Wouldn't that be nice.
But people need motivation to act and there is nothing more motivating than having an imminent threat. Conflict going back thousands of years drove ideas and research, from a sling to throw a rock faster and further, to building a stronger wall, a better catapult...... To radar, the nuclear bomb and landing on the moon. Conflict has driven science the whole way. Both with the technology but more importantly the ideas that go in and come from it.
@@spindoctor6385 I'm well aware that a lot of money goes to weapons system development, but that's not even close to the bulk of the funding the military receives. I'm also not being utopian, I'm just pointing out that scientific advancements would happen regardless of whether we were in conflict, as long as we allocated resources for it. Despite the large amounts of money and effort that go into developing military technologies today, the majority of scientific breakthroughs still happen through universities and non-military private R&D. The amount of additional resources we would need to allocate to civilian research in order to get benefits equal to what we currently derive from military research would be much less than what we spend on militaries today.
@@Pushing_Pixels You are being utopian because you have not come up with any mechanism that would motivate this desire for scientific research. You just pretend that everybody wants scientific research for the sake of it. You are obviously the dictator of your utopia because you think you can ignore all needs, market forces and the entire history and nature of mankind that got us to this point and replace it with "allocating resources" Sounds like the basis of every (failed) communist utopia to me.
That is why companies like Starlink should not be in the control of one man.
Starlink is for internet services. And its not like others can't launch their own satellite constellations.
Your comment tells me that you are OK with Klaus Schwab but not Elon.
Most of the pictures you see in this video are taken either by plane or drone. Adding the chilling music and wording makes you think the satellite images are what you are seeing.
After getting the best picture from a satellite on the perfect day, you will still need to ZOOM in afterwards. This story means pictures, static pictures, what about video? Video is the only way to begin to track something and that isn't without a host of problems. Maybe in 100-200 years, we'll have crisp close video.
Also the storyline of the Hubble makes you think there potentially might be 11 Hubble types out there, but no..that's a misnomer. It's not the same Hubble glass or equipment, which are gawd awful unusable for earth tracking, it's a lense size similar to the Hubble that they are referring to. If you carefully watched, you would have heard that.
The Hubble is specially built for long LONG distance viewing only, not close ups.
They won't need to read your phone, they've already got all that.
I just wonder how do they avoid satellite collisions since they’re deploying more and more satellites.
Different altitudes mostly, collisions do occur but is rare
Galaxies “collide” without stars colliding…or so they say. It’s all due to relative size and distances. Satellites have collided, but they know the orbits and orbital velocities of existing satellites so they are launched to not collide.
That would explain the space junk.
The world is big and satellites, in comparison, are very small. They know where the satellites are up there, and are also at different altitudes.
Do a search for "why do starlink satellites not collide". One video said they are aware of each other and have to take evasive maneuvers to avoid each other. But if I'm getting the numbers right, out of 6000 starlink satellites in low earth orbit, only about 140 adjustments need to be taken in a day. I think that's among all 6000, not for each satellite.
Another video mentioned that the agencies that put satellites up make sure that they location data is known to other agencies so they can adjust course when necessary. So it sounds kinda like flight control center monitoring aircraft.
I’m more worried for the poor sod who has to watch my boring-ass life than I am about being watched
Do you think he's a slave?
What is SAD is that these cameras can't ever figure out when and where kids are taken
and where they are taken to
THAT is what IS SAD 😢
They most certainly can!! They simply won't.
@@e4m7g6not their priority 🤦♂️