Don't Get Ripped Off By Car Mechanics! (Check Engine Light)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @heribertocastillo3735
    @heribertocastillo3735 Год назад +4

    Thank you for teaching people how to use the code reader

  • @MiracleMAX
    @MiracleMAX 7 лет назад +26

    Thanks for your video. You have shown a good basic overview of the scan tool.
    However, as an automotive technician of 34 years, just owning a scan tool, does not provide all the information you need unless you know what the data means, what is correct data and what is incorrect.
    The following information may be helpful.
    If you are to diagnose problems correctly in this particular case, other things that should be taken into account would be both short term fuel trim (STFT), long term fuel trim (LTFT), readings of the air mass meter, coolant temperature and other live data. At 5.30, the LTFT & STFT are in negative, which indicates that the fuel trims are being lowered due to a rich mixture. If nothing else is done apart from the O2 sensors being replaced, the rich mixture has not been diagnosed and in the future, the O2 sensors may need to be replaced again, due to the actual cause not being repaired. The scan tool has simply thrown up a code due to the voltage readings being out of parameters.
    Honest technicians are interested in diagnosing the fault, not just throwing parts at a vehicle. It might be worth asking "Why did the O2 sensors fail? Why was the mixture excessively rich? Was it just due to old age or incorrect fuel, coolant in the exhaust system due to a blown head gasket, leaky fuel injectors, or many other reasons that would cause those codes to be shown?"
    Thanks again for your overview of the scan tool.
    I am not trying to give you grief, just point out some other areas to be considered.
    I hope that the above information has been useful.
    I always enjoy your videos.
    Keep up with the great work.

    • @fieldsofomagh
      @fieldsofomagh 7 лет назад +1

      MiracleMAX Could you list the causes for rich fuel trims and why old age ??

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +1

      What you stated is true. In my case the O2 sensors have never been replaced(14 years), and as we all know, nothing lasts forever. The computer is compensating for the rich condition as you stated. It's also possible that I have a fuel injector that's not closing all the way, luckily they're easy to pull out and test.

    • @fieldsofomagh
      @fieldsofomagh 7 лет назад +1

      Good idea for a video.

    • @MiracleMAX
      @MiracleMAX 7 лет назад +1

      O2 sensors definitely wear out due to contamination and just general break down. No doubt they needed replacement. Hopefully you can find the source of the problem. Good luck.
      Keep up the good work!

    • @MiracleMAX
      @MiracleMAX 7 лет назад +4

      Hey Greg,
      I agree there are some mechanics out there that don't care. However it is not always the case. I have been a tech for 34 years and a college teacher part time for 14 years. I refuse to teach full time as I feel that all teachers should have current experience.
      Without trying to promote my own channel (sorry electronicsNmore) I have the motto 'making the complex simple' where I aim to find the cause of the problem and not just replace parts.
      Unfortunately, mechanics that just replace parts are not techs and truly interested in either their customers or their business.

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox 7 лет назад +14

    No kidding about the ripoff. When my check engine light kept coming on, less than a year after I bought the car, I took it to the dealer so they could pull the error codes and see what it was. (I suspect it was just that my gas cap wasn't sealing tight enough, causing the wrong pressure inside the tank and thus the check engine light, which I've seen happen on other vehicles.) They wanted to charge me $90 (!!!) just to plug in their code reader and find out what the problem was. I basically said screw that, and took it up to Autozone where they tested it for free.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +4

      Yes, most auto stores will test for free because they want to sell you parts. :-)

    • @00Skyfox
      @00Skyfox 7 лет назад +2

      Yes, but the nice thing is no purchase is necessary to get it tested. If the dealership wants to charge $90 just to plug in and read the little screen, once the 2 years free routine service is up I'll probably be going somewhere else for repairs on whatever I can't do myself.

    • @meabob
      @meabob 3 года назад

      @@electronicsNmore - I've made a lot of money from those auto parts stores pulling codes then selling parts that don't fix the problems.

    • @meabob
      @meabob 3 года назад +1

      @@00Skyfox - at a shop/dealer you don't just get a code reading, you get diag for that code (unless it turns into a major diag then you should be quoted for the additional time to see if you want to continue). Contrary to what so many believe, there is no magic computer/reader that will tell you what is wrong with a car. The system will set a code when it detects an issue but the codes only give you an idea where to start looking. It doesn't tell what the problem is, only what it being affected. You still have to determine what is causing the issue. Often times a code will set in a system but is being caused by another system. Example: On some GM vehicles, the vehicle will be running fine but the ABS/Traction light(s) will be on. When you turn off and restart the car, the ABS light(s) will be off for a short while but comes back on. The brake system will be working fine. The ABS code will be "Stability Control Disabled" (can't remember the number off the top of my head). Now tell me what that means or go to your parts store and ask them and they'll likely try to sell you a wheel speed sensor. The first time I ran into this I had no idea what it meant. Everything from the ABS data showed to be operating properly. The description of it only said the traction/anti-skid was not available and that it was an informational code not intended for diagnoses purposes. After a lot of research I found out that the ABS controller will set this code and turn on the ABS light(s) when it detects that the engine controller is counting up more misfires than the ABS thinks is safe. The engine controller doesn't care about misfires as long as it's below the limits for emissions so it won't turn on the CEL. That time it turned out that the customer was using E-85 gas and it was causing the extra misfires that the ABS didn't like. I did an alcohol content reset in the engine controller and the misfires almost went away. (Note: E-85 is not good for your vehicles) The ABS was happy. On other vehicles I have found clogged injectors and vacuum leaks causing the same thing. Once had lifters causing it but it also had a fairly loud ticking sound.

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 4 года назад +4

    Make sure you get a code reader that can display live data it’s really useful to see how the sensors are working why’ll operating the vehicle

  • @rodneygoeiman4433
    @rodneygoeiman4433 2 года назад +4

    Hi please add more videos of check engine light

  • @Alex-fi9cb
    @Alex-fi9cb Месяц назад

    Thank you very very and very thank you for your heart karma kindness for sharing that information.thank you.

  • @genghisman39
    @genghisman39 7 лет назад +3

    I have a USB OBDII reader that can read and describe the codes, and can do a live report with a printable text report. Only requires the appropriate software. Most cars now and days can also display the codes on the dash, but you would need to look up the code. Good video!

  • @kristipeck8085
    @kristipeck8085 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please tell me what kind of tester do I need for my 2007 Honda accord?

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 7 лет назад +2

    I have the cheaper version of that centech (harbor freight) scanner but I actually picked up a bluetooth OBD2 reader that syncs with your phone. They are dirt cheap now. I have an evap error on my car that comes up every few months so I just plug in my reader look at the codes and make sure its the evap error and then reset it. You can also use this reader to get live readouts of things such as intake temp, oil temp/pressure, RPM's, speed, etc... But the problem with leaving this thing plugged in all the time is the OBD2 port (at least on my car) is always hot so when they reader is plugged in its always drawing power and always searching for a connection point so it drains my battery.

  • @boballen6469
    @boballen6469 3 года назад +1

    1993 ford f150 check engine light has been on for at least 6 years..still running perfect.

  • @littlemcareni38
    @littlemcareni38 4 года назад +2

    Gimick is he wants you to buy the scanner he is using. Slick

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  4 года назад +2

      Gimmick? Wrong. Any scanner would work, but if a person appreciates the information/education, and isn't a freeloader, then they'll buy the same tester I used to show that they support my work.

  • @dougjstl1
    @dougjstl1 7 лет назад +3

    Actually the O2 sensor reacts to heat if there's less fuel going through the exhaust it heats up more and if there's more fuel going through there or it's cooler so actually reacts to heat at 600 Degrees

  • @clucasjr312
    @clucasjr312 5 лет назад +5

    Thanks for sharing the dealership wants to charge just to diagnose the car for $150.00 are they crazy? Then I will still have to pay and get my car fixed if they find something. omg...

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад +1

      You can also stop at any auto parts store and they'll scan your car for free.

  • @jstephensoneyeOpen
    @jstephensoneyeOpen Месяц назад

    Found short in Dome fuses for the interior and head light fuses... Toyota matrix 2005 runs great but bad light bulbs...all replaced and engine warning light still out. HOW BAD IS THIS??? 😮😢😮 Someone got me good for $3,250.00. Don't know what im going to do!

  • @mikemichaelmusic09
    @mikemichaelmusic09 4 года назад +1

    Here's my question, my cars approaching the 100,000 miles mark, will check engine light come on to remind me that I need to service all things mention in the owner's manual?

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  4 года назад

      Only newer vehicles have indications displayed when a service is due. If the check engine light comes on, you need to scan the port to find out why the light was triggered. Thanks for watching!

  • @tooterr102e.9
    @tooterr102e.9 7 лет назад +1

    Another FANTASTIC thumbs up video.

  • @meabob
    @meabob 3 года назад +3

    I love people who think a code/data reader will tell them what is wrong with a vehicle. So many times I have had someone say they replaced some part "the reader said was bad" but the vehicle is not fixed. Especially for EVAP and O2 codes. I laugh when they lose their face when they learn they will have to pay diag time to find out what it's really doing it plus the repair cost of labor and parts to correct the issue. Sorry Charlie, I don't work for free. Funny how they'll throw their money down a rabbit hole to not fix their vehicle but say the mechanic is a rip-off since he/she wants to charge diag time. Great example: Just this week a 2010 Honda Passport comes in with CEL on. Check codes to find P0303 (cylinder 3 misfire). Monitored the misfires and cylinder 3 was clocking misfires. Found the number 3 coil to be split. Quoted the coil and all spark plugs (the old plugs are very worn and was likely the cause of the coil burning up). Customer has a fit. Said he had just replaced the coil and spark plug and it didn't fix it. He said I didn't know what I was doing. I took a closer look and found he had replaced the coil for cylinder 2 not cylinder 3. That year of the Passport has two V6 engines with different cylinder numbering and of course he picked the wrong engine. I guess he's too smart to look at the engine stickers to see what engine he has. Some people shouldn't be trying to fix their cars. I was going to be nice and wave the diag time since it only took about 10 minutes to figure it out and just charge for the coil and spark plugs. After he showed his arse and talked so much crap, he declined the work but asked me which is the 3 cylinder. I told him he should look it up himself since I don't know what I'm doing. I took the hour of diag and walked away. This is mean of me but I hope he doesn't fix it right away and his catalytic converter gets plugged up from the un-burnt gas going out his exhaust. That would be like poetic justice. Too many people want to demonize the mechanic because they don't know what they're doing or they have had their jack-legged buddies work on their vehicle and end up spending more money to actually get the repairs done right.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  3 года назад

      That's true, you need to use the code scanner as a "tool" to assist trouble shooting. I've had a faulty MAF cause other codes to trigger.

    • @PerfectingTheBoldCommentary
      @PerfectingTheBoldCommentary 5 месяцев назад

      Still doesn't mean you're an honest mechanic nor a good one! That's what makes customers angry. Mechanics will be skilled at fixing some things. And fail us at other things... Then we realize this mechanic isn't all that great and we start feeling the shady vibes eminating off that mechanic. As a mechanic YOU CANNOT FAIL AT FIXING ANYTHING ON OUR CAR. Otherwise the people's trust in your ability will wane. No it's not okay to say this is the problem after you've shown you're not really that competent at fixing certain auto problems.

  • @morganplisken7271
    @morganplisken7271 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you great video

  • @peterh2800
    @peterh2800 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent video ....

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video Pete! Be sure to look over my extensive video playlists(especially my Automotive/Mechanical playlist) for other great videos of interest to you, and most importantly share my channel with many others. Thank you

  • @robertahastings8567
    @robertahastings8567 2 месяца назад

    What about a Harley Davidson check engine light keeps coming on..why??

  • @alfredohernandez6640
    @alfredohernandez6640 7 лет назад +1

    Hi! what is the name of that tool or tester ? thanks, and what other car model cauld it work?

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +1

      Please refer to the video description area. Thanks!

  • @peterh2800
    @peterh2800 5 лет назад +4

    Excellent n excellent video. thanks *****

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video Pete! Be sure to watch my "Automotive/Mechanical" video playlists for other great videos of interest to you, and most importantly share my channel with others. Thank you

  • @kiarakiara2xs
    @kiarakiara2xs 4 года назад +1

    Hi! I got a tune up at an auto repair shop and now the check engine light is one. What did the mechanic do to my car? He is trying get to get money out of me.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  4 года назад +1

      Go to any auto parts store and ask to have your computer codes pulled.

    • @kiarakiara2xs
      @kiarakiara2xs 4 года назад

      @@electronicsNmore ok thanks so much!

  • @sjr7822
    @sjr7822 5 лет назад +2

    I just removed the battery cables, cleaned with baking soda and wire brush and the check engine light is off now. I wonder if just removing the neg cable did the trick tho' I'll never know, anyway, all is good. Update, when I turned it off and started again, the check engine light came on again and stayed on - darn!

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад +1

      You need a code scanner like I show on my channel.

    • @sjr7822
      @sjr7822 5 лет назад

      @@electronicsNmore I know, On my wish list

    • @sjr7822
      @sjr7822 5 лет назад +1

      @@electronicsNmore got it, cam shaft sensor part cost 65.00 but, garage said that is only the starting point, to know the code and the location, which means to me, I'm looking at hours in their shop, as they use their own scanning device, Ford Garage would not order the part, before by appointment, even tho' I gave them the code on the scanner.
      I'll have to find some backyard shop, that will work with me, I guess

  • @SolarizeYourLife
    @SolarizeYourLife 7 лет назад +1

    Holy crap, you have four O sensors? Do you know if the electrical plug wired to car is easily available? The Idiots broke it the first time the sensor was replaced, they never told me nor did they fixed it!

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +1

      You can always cut off the connector and install small heat shrink butt splices. Thanks for watching! Be sure to check out my other videos and share.

  • @AndsonSimbeye
    @AndsonSimbeye 3 месяца назад +1

    Help me lam poor to buy obd11 scanner reply to me Lusaka or to where to buy diagnosis machine price order

  • @dougjstl1
    @dougjstl1 7 лет назад +1

    Super super useful tool can you explain it a little bit more about what the voltage should read on the oxygen sensor going to check for vacuum leaks

  • @jothilakshmi2959
    @jothilakshmi2959 5 лет назад +1

    Hello, my Car is chevrolet optra, it's showing check yellow light sometimes , sometimes it's not showing , especially when we going to highway long drive it's indicating but in the city limit its not indicating, in high way also not all the time it's showing, may I know what could be the reason behind it?

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад +1

      If the light turns on and off, the usual suspect is a faulty Oxygen sensor. Thanks for watching!

  • @safisafari2223
    @safisafari2223 5 лет назад +1

    There is different brand of code Reader on that Amazon link and not Cen-tech,thanks!

  • @edwinprieto9428
    @edwinprieto9428 9 месяцев назад

    Good thank you

  • @alviselaguna9033
    @alviselaguna9033 3 года назад +1

    Hi there! My engine light pop up yesterday. It was scary, I was in need of driving by night in poor roads. I have a Ford Fiesta Zetec. I drove back home the soon I could, turn off the car and restart it. No light. Just before this happen the car was on the drive for several days cause a snowfall. Could be the reason? I need to see this video bit by bit, nice. Cheers!

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  3 года назад

      Stop by any big auto parts store, they'll scan your computer for free. Thanks for watching!

    • @alviselaguna9033
      @alviselaguna9033 3 года назад

      @@electronicsNmore Not for free, not here in the UK! Thank you!

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  3 года назад

      @@alviselaguna9033 Wow, they should do it for free so they can sell you parts.

  • @fieldsofomagh
    @fieldsofomagh 7 лет назад +2

    Very informative video !

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +1

      Tom OConnor Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to rate thumbs up and share.

  • @dougjstl1
    @dougjstl1 7 лет назад +1

    Nice hands very smooth when you open the box and see the name and see the meter still in the strap give us the details more details the better details

  • @dougjstl1
    @dougjstl1 7 лет назад +1

    Great hands great handwork I like two hands did you get your nails done where'd you get your nails done at your nails look really nice man

    • @dougjstl1
      @dougjstl1 7 лет назад

      You can do your little meter check the voltage on that O2 sensor then you can see that it's working right you can see the voltage on it going up and down then you know it's either working or not cuz you can see the voltage so it look like you replaced a good old two sensor because it was shown voltage the correct voltage you showed it to me so you wasted your money

  • @robertahastings8567
    @robertahastings8567 2 месяца назад

    How about on a Harley Davidson?

  • @janearmamento8522
    @janearmamento8522 5 лет назад +1

    Good day, my mitsubishi mirage 2013 hatchback, the check engine light is always off..i do not know what's the problem of my car why check engine is always off..i hope you will help me with problem of my car..thanks

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад

      It's supposed to be off. It only lights up when you have a problem.

  • @Edmorbus
    @Edmorbus 7 лет назад +1

    Good video thanks for sharing

  • @doorguner01
    @doorguner01 7 лет назад +2

    Good ol harbour freight!

    • @elliotclark6770
      @elliotclark6770 3 года назад

      Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm you can watch pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend during the lockdown :)

    • @vicentecason1555
      @vicentecason1555 3 года назад

      @Elliot Clark Definitely, been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself =)

  • @oatisb.driftwood8513
    @oatisb.driftwood8513 4 года назад

    How much did that scan tool cost.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  4 года назад

      Not too much. Price more than likely dropped. There's a link in the video description area. Thanks for watching!

    • @oatisb.driftwood8513
      @oatisb.driftwood8513 4 года назад

      @@electronicsNmore That's not what I asked.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  4 года назад +1

      @@oatisb.driftwood8513 With 560+ videos, you actually think I remember? LOL Don't be lazy, I supplied a link. Most channels on YT wouldn't have even bothered to reply to your question.

  • @thomaspowell3739
    @thomaspowell3739 6 лет назад +3

    Learn your lessons, a simple repair issue could cost you a fortune if taken to a repair shop. I have experienced these ripoff criminals who tried to screw off every last dime in my pocket.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  6 лет назад +1

      Sadly many mechanics rip people off. Thanks for watching! Be sure to check out my extensive video playlists for other great videos of interest to you, rate thumbs up, and share my channel with others. Thank You

    • @meabob
      @meabob 3 года назад

      Sadly, often times the customer or his/her jack-legged shade tree grease monkey friends can't fix the car or cause more damaged but the actual mechanics get blamed for charging too much when usually the mechanic doesn't set the price. Your buddy might can fix your car for $50 in the driveway where the shop charges you $100. Your buddy just made $50 off of you while the mechanic only made $30 for the same work. The other $70 goes to pay the shop's expenses.

  • @j.d.schultzsr.9215
    @j.d.schultzsr.9215 4 месяца назад

    I bought a cheapo Chinese OBD code reader which seems to work. As long as the car runs OK, I prefer my wife's solution: Stick a piece of black electrical tape over the "CHECK ENGINE" light. Problem solved without breaking the bank!!

  • @SolarizeYourLife
    @SolarizeYourLife 7 лет назад +1

    The damn dealership demands a must code read and charges $80 for it, even if you tell them there is no engine light lit or if you already read and gave them the codes you saw...

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад +1

      They need to make money. :-)

    • @Michael-ib5tu
      @Michael-ib5tu 7 лет назад

      electronicsNmore s. they get us Everytime.!!!!

    • @sparkasmi
      @sparkasmi 6 лет назад +1

      Try $175.00 for size. I just got told the engine light is what's malfunctioning and since fixing it is complicated they will charge me 600.00 :( Yup, I'm a girl.

  • @A_Barbosa
    @A_Barbosa 7 лет назад +2

    super easy?

  • @dougjstl1
    @dougjstl1 7 лет назад

    Can you take the cap off that O2 sensor kind of thing and you didn't show us taking it out of the box we need to see the box and we need to see you taking it out of the box please I'm a nun boxer I need unbox therapy

  • @k.kdowning3284
    @k.kdowning3284 5 лет назад +1

    GO TO AUTO ZONE OR ANY AUTO PARTS STORES, THEY CAN TESTS FOR FREE

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  5 лет назад

      They do a lousy job, and they only give you a code #.

    • @k.kdowning3284
      @k.kdowning3284 5 лет назад +1

      @@electronicsNmore ACTUALLY THEY FOUND OUT WHAT PARTS NEEDS TO BE REPLACE.

    • @meabob
      @meabob 3 года назад

      @@k.kdowning3284 - LOL I love idiots

  • @obertmbela1411
    @obertmbela1411 3 года назад

    If the light flashing key

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  3 года назад

      Please explain better.

    • @meabob
      @meabob 3 года назад

      If you mean the engine light (or check engine light or service engine soon light) is flashing then you have an issue where too much hydrocarbon (un-burnt gas) is going out your exhaust. It is usually due to a misfire condition but can be caused by several things. You need to get that checked right away. The extra un-burnt gas will cause you catalytic converters to fail and that gets very expensive.

  • @wingedbull1257
    @wingedbull1257 7 лет назад +1

    Hi Doug do you have an email, Need your help please.

    • @electronicsNmore
      @electronicsNmore  7 лет назад

      Post all questions at the location of the video in the comment area. Thanks!