How Mega Rayquaza Changed Pokemon Forever

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @pokeaimMD
    @pokeaimMD  Год назад +464

    Quick edit: i mentioned delta stream changing stealth rock, this was a mistake on my part. Think i was thinking rock moves and we wrote this instead .Check out my previous discussion on why Blaziken was finally unbanned after 10 years and sub for more, I do these discussion vids 3-4 times a month: ruclips.net/video/eoqmADichWo/видео.html

    • @danieljones0529
      @danieljones0529 Год назад

      Ok cause like I thought I was tripping with that

    • @azaanmaqbool2282
      @azaanmaqbool2282 Год назад

      when the 180 atk 252 ev adamant max iv v create with 4x atk

    • @thunderborn3231
      @thunderborn3231 Год назад +2

      megas overall disappointed me; their initial concept of making weaker pokemon have the stats to take on legendaries was great, but they just had to make mega legendaries and pseudos

    • @SriNu_CSD
      @SriNu_CSD Год назад

      @@azaanmaqbool2282 can kill anything with just Extreme speed 🚅💨
      Just kidding 😂 but That would be insane Damage to anything 🔥🔥

    • @azaanmaqbool2282
      @azaanmaqbool2282 Год назад

      @@SriNu_CSD yeh, imagine if it also was fire type and had adaptability and fire tera, that would be the strongest move ever

  • @connorself
    @connorself Год назад +2551

    Rayquaza definitively proved that power creep isn’t just in small increments. Mega ray made mons and megas that came out in the same generation obsolete

    • @wowb1965
      @wowb1965 Год назад +28

      Primal Groudon? Surf effortlessly deletes it because delta stream bypasses desolate land. Even regular rayquaza could do that

    • @mateohuf3811
      @mateohuf3811 Год назад +217

      @@wowb1965 bro missed the point

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Год назад +185

      Back when Mega Ray was yet to be banned, the S-tier Mega Salamence was like a C-tier pick. That's how insane Mega Ray was in warping a metagame.

    • @Chrispy
      @Chrispy Год назад

      @@wowb1965 this nigga stupid

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 Год назад +142

      @@butteredsalmonella Yea why would anyone use Mega Mence when Mega Mega Mence existed lmao

  • @l-I-I__Iool
    @l-I-I__Iool Год назад +1668

    Mega Rayquaza is the one time gamefreak made gameplay truly reflective of the lore. Can you imagine if Arceus had gotten the same treatment?

    • @Citridile
      @Citridile Год назад +318

      They did. Arceus in PLA can use a tablet that makes its moves always super effective by changing types mid battle to whatever is best

    • @LoinkLoink
      @LoinkLoink Год назад +174

      @@Citridile Fr, Legends Arceus really did God justice.

    • @toasteroven6761
      @toasteroven6761 Год назад +116

      ​@@Citridile Why the devs at Gamefreak thought a Pokemon with more base stats than Arceus was a good idea is beyond me----unless they were planning to introduce some new Arceus form later with higher stats, which while Arceus was buffed in PLA----its stats are the same.
      One can only hope for an 'Arceus Point-0' form with 877 base stat total or something like that, but since the Gen 4 pre-make and remake season is over that probably won't ever happen, at least not for a long time.

    • @bacd-nn2lg
      @bacd-nn2lg Год назад +14

      Mega Rayquaza definitly needs some buffs to it's stats since we have more broken pokemon in last 2 generations.

    • @dog5169
      @dog5169 Год назад +64

      It was said in PLA that the arceus we own was only a fragment

  • @TheRealGigachad1848
    @TheRealGigachad1848 Год назад +540

    "Tiers? You mean tears."
    -Mega-ray, probably

  • @TheGreatGirafarig
    @TheGreatGirafarig Год назад +3882

    I miss megas so much. Tera and z moves are neat but don't even come close to how cool megas were...

    • @Slither.Wing.
      @Slither.Wing. Год назад +588

      I like how Dynamax wasn’t even mentioned lol

    • @MrSchnavid
      @MrSchnavid Год назад +506

      @@チュチュチンポポ least they were better than stupid dynamax

    • @RockHoward256
      @RockHoward256 Год назад +337

      ​@@チュチュチンポポ Z moves>>>Dynatrash

    • @cantbelieve5231
      @cantbelieve5231 Год назад +91

      We got the return of fat pikachu what you talkin about?

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker Год назад +228

      @@チュチュチンポポ Dynamax was more garbage then Z-Moves. It wasn't interesting at all and was super overcentralizing in Singles. Z-Moves were basically Gems in Gen V but you could only use one of them.

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 Год назад +216

    People probably feel safer knowing this mon is guarding the planet from meteors.

    • @ajrich1726
      @ajrich1726 Год назад +18

      Definitely

    • @DarkBlackGod14
      @DarkBlackGod14 7 месяцев назад +7

      Mega Rayquaza doesnt guard planet from meteors. Arceus guards meteors from Mega Rayquaza. Its just some very unlucky ones that pass through, as meeting mega ray is literally being forsaken by the god

    • @zkdelta8014
      @zkdelta8014 29 дней назад

      ​@@DarkBlackGod14 Arceus to Deoxys' meteor: nah, f this meteor in particular, I'll let Ray handle this one

  • @Lakanus
    @Lakanus Год назад +672

    It also sort of established Ubers as a proper tier. Before Mega-Ray, it was seen as the banlist for OU that also happened to be a playable tier.

    • @DigitalRag3X
      @DigitalRag3X Год назад

      It’s still a ban list, cause things don’t rise and drop from Ubers...,,

    • @exaunitive4948
      @exaunitive4948 Год назад +26

      @@DigitalRag3X umm?zamazenta was almost dropped

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Год назад +26

      @@exaunitive4948 Normally, a Pokemon would drop a tier by usage stats. Iron Hands going from OU to UU for example. In Zamazenta and Kyurem-Black's case, they were instead a community-based decision rather than a statistics-based decision. Deoxys-Normal for example has zero usage but will never ever be considered for OU.

    • @Jacksonh_56
      @Jacksonh_56 Год назад +2

      @@butteredsalmonella they’d need a BL category for in between OU and Ubers

    • @Regigigas_YT
      @Regigigas_YT 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@DigitalRag3XGenesect

  • @aklirothcranixvi944
    @aklirothcranixvi944 Год назад +162

    I really love the Hoenn trio.
    Groudon and Kyogre were "The all time" Uber tier choices for the sole reason that so many teams are centered around them.
    And then there's Rayquaza. The Progenitor of AG and the "Wild card" that can be used to counter weather based teams.

    • @blackoutamvs6550
      @blackoutamvs6550 9 месяцев назад +6

      I love that AG is also what the hoenn saga of the anime is called

  • @XENON3120
    @XENON3120 Год назад +468

    This video was a joy to edit. Thanks to everybody that watched and support. Joey always considers your feedback so leave it down bellow.

    • @unremainings
      @unremainings Год назад +7

      Good job editing man!
      I really loved it!

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад

      @@unremainings Thank you.

    • @jhendi309
      @jhendi309 Год назад +3

      Well I have some feedback, he should learn how to pronounce Rayquaza correctly

  • @DynamoTwentyTwo
    @DynamoTwentyTwo Год назад +228

    This has always been one of my favorite stories, about how Mega-Ray was so powerful that they had to create a new rule which said that if there was no rule against using Mega-Ray, than there weren't allowed to be rules against anything at all.
    (And then even that rule got broken by Fun-Bro's assault on the very idea of playing the game)

    • @kris6038
      @kris6038 Год назад +16

      It was fun to play it. When Mega Rayquaza was annouced, we all sat and read the power ups in disbelief. We had been graced with a god.

  • @ike47222
    @ike47222 Год назад +139

    Not only did Rayquaza pave the way to a new tier entirely but I still think he sits at the top of his throne in Anything Goes! Great vid I'm loving these, keep em coming!

    • @ducminhduong9873
      @ducminhduong9873 Год назад +36

      Zacian-C is easily more viable in AG, but M Rayquaza is far more 'broken' in the literal sense.
      I truly believe it can never exist in a proper metagame. It's the very antithesis to balance itself. Can run a hundred sets and nullify every of its counter, has immediate power and setup options, access to priority and is deceivingly bulky. It turns the a meta into a guessing game, where there is not even a good guess available.

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 Год назад +24

      @@ducminhduong9873 I've always felt like Zacian-C was considered the peak of modern day powercreep. Even though Mega Ray was the straw that broke the camel's back, Zacian-C is essentially the perfect offensive Pokemon, even moreso than Mega Ray IMO. One of the fastest Pokemon in the game, arguably best typing in the game, near perfect coverage, SD, and immediate raw power that could even surpass Mega Ray itself. Mega Ray has a lot more versatility, but I think that's what makes Zacian-C so insane to me. It's not really that versatile, and it doesn't even matter. All it needs is the same 3 moves while occasionally swapping around SD and extra coverage to completely break the game in half. It can do all this without even having the luxury of running an actual benefiting item that isn't Rusted Sword. Truly insane.

    • @Gurkan790
      @Gurkan790 Год назад +1

      @@Forged4War206 imagine you could've given Zacian C. a Life Orb or Leftovers on top of all that nonsense it had lmao. It's so disgusting, I don't even want to imagine that

    • @daboss4318
      @daboss4318 Год назад +2

      @@Forged4War206 At the very least zacian got nerfed kinda hard, unlike mray.

    • @rkvlegacy9206
      @rkvlegacy9206 Год назад +6

      @@daboss4318 Agreed, with the next to Zacian, Rayquaza has more raw power if Zacian switches out and DD Rayquaza is still busted and can OHKO any version of Zacian. Zacian still has the type and speed adv both are the best of what they do and brings out the potential of their stats and move sets

  • @Terry_T_ODST
    @Terry_T_ODST Год назад +383

    Mega ray was so goated 💙 the funny thing about mega ray in AG is that, even as its creator, it wasn't at the top of the AG viability rankings (only being A+). That honor went to klefki of all pokemon 😂

    • @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451
      @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451 Год назад +13

      Really? What made klefki so good in ag as opposed to its regular tiering? It sure couldnt have been the paraswag combination?

    • @Natibe_
      @Natibe_ Год назад +164

      For anyone wondering why klefki- in gen 6, the combination of swagger+foul play is banned, as well as having multiple of the same pokemon. Foul play+TWave+sub+swagger on a prankster klefki lets you confuse them with swagger, set up a sub with priority and wait for them to get confused, then beat them down with foul play, which uses their now boosted attack to kill them. 6 klefki gets you 6 chances to use the strat, and klefki has fairy coverage to kill mega sableye which is pretty much the only realistic counter to this in AG. It was good in the same way revive cats is good in modern NDex AG, it’s just very difficult-to-counter cheese.

    • @ThePlanet3ater
      @ThePlanet3ater Год назад

      @@Natibe_ Revive cats needs to die. Thankfully extreme speed is goated

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu Год назад +26

      @@matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451 swaggerplay was a factor but it was also some other things. The first is that no matter which mons are in an Uber or above tier, Xerneas is still one of the top 3 endgame threats after ekiller and Mray. There was no ndm in Gen 6 AG. So keys was one of the premier Xern checks. In addition, it was a spiker who also threatened darkrai with twave, making it nearly useless. Keys is nearly useless vs Don, in a 1v1, but the ability to throw up spikes in Ubers will always be useful.

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki Год назад +10

      @Natibe_ swagger, foul play, twave and sub is the combo I used on liepard when I played RU in gen 5 lol

  • @Supermateo97
    @Supermateo97 Год назад +18

    *Rayquaza in 2014*
    _”AND THIS- IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND”_

  • @Axelpvz2030
    @Axelpvz2030 Год назад +149

    Rayquaza always has been one of my favorite legendary. And let me tell ya, being able to just spam Draco ascent and sweep teams like if you where playing against an npc, is kinda wholesome

    • @interstellar_hamster6250
      @interstellar_hamster6250 Год назад +29

      Opponent zigzagoon: absolutely disintegrated leaving no bones behind after being hit by dragon ascent mega ray with dragon dance power up
      "kinda wholesome innit"

    • @pshot-r4h
      @pshot-r4h 8 месяцев назад +3

      Agreed, Rayquaza is the perfect legendary Pokemon
      Cool design+Mega evolution+ one of the strongest Pokemon

  • @jakesteel4916
    @jakesteel4916 Год назад +128

    The opening days of Anything Goes were amazing to see. Teams of 6 Rayquazas everywhere so people started running teams of 6 Klefkis to murder them, so then teams started running Numel to counter the Klefki teams and so on.

    • @zaradoe5422
      @zaradoe5422 Год назад

      klefki beats megaray?

    • @BoneTea
      @BoneTea Год назад +21

      ​@@zaradoe5422 prankster + swagger + foul play shenanigans beats it

    • @GhostlyMoonWitch
      @GhostlyMoonWitch Год назад +14

      6 bigass dragons vs 6 keychains

  • @capribreezee
    @capribreezee Год назад +7

    “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should”

  • @Cream147player
    @Cream147player Год назад +67

    Don’t forget to slightly balance Mega-Ray they could at least have had the move he needed to learn to Mega be bad, but instead Dragon Ascent is a great move you’d want on Ray regardless.

    • @kartiksaraf4676
      @kartiksaraf4676 Год назад +15

      why would you want Dragon Ascent to be bad. GF doesn't have to create pokemon that fit in a niche hobby some people have(1v1 singles). They have to create a pokemon that millions and millions will love to play with in their story. They succeeded in their task and I hope to see more once every few generations

    • @dayvonlouis5187
      @dayvonlouis5187 Год назад +9

      Keep in mind between the Super Ancient Pokemon signature moves Dragon Ascent is the only one with a negative effect if Game freak truly wanted to be funny they could’ve given it an ancient power effect on top of the base 120 power it already had

    • @Cream147player
      @Cream147player Год назад +6

      ​@@kartiksaraf4676 I didn't say I wanted it, but it is another way they could've balanced Mega-Ray. Most Megas have to carry an otherwise worthless item that precludes you from using another item. Ray gets to just have a move that is honestly amazing for him even if it didn't give him the Mega, and he can have a held item of his choice as well thank you very much. It's funny how obviously unbalanced he is.
      But to be clear, I don't actually have any huge problem in them creating the odd super-unbalanced Poke. As you alluded to, he's fun to use for a casual player.

    • @Cream147player
      @Cream147player Год назад +2

      @@dayvonlouis5187 Given how Game Freak are continually upping the ante with broken moves and Pokémon, I wouldn't rule out getting something as broken as that someday.

  • @osblarg
    @osblarg Год назад +357

    I fully and unironically believe that Gamefreak should make more of these, pokemon that are so ridiculously broken that you see them and think "why would they ever make this?"

    • @Thund3rDrag0n12
      @Thund3rDrag0n12 Год назад +78

      They did with Zacian and Eternamax Eternatus

    • @hugomventura
      @hugomventura Год назад +23

      They need to make an unkillable wall ,smeargle but better, a perfect hazard setter and then a perfect wall breaker to like make people panic. Each individual one not being in the same gen of course we need to keep them separate so that ag becomes its own tier.

    • @Fabi3014
      @Fabi3014 Год назад +66

      @@Thund3rDrag0n12 tbf Eternamax Eternatus is not playable for AG tho, only in Pure Hackmons, where it made the tier unplayable lol

    • @blomgaming6480
      @blomgaming6480 Год назад +33

      Just make Arceus have a 255 on every single stat

    • @DarkWolfJr1000
      @DarkWolfJr1000 Год назад +5

      I would love for them to have a mon with zero or the lowest amount of speed possible but have it tank hits and hit like a truck lol

  • @royal_kim1154
    @royal_kim1154 Год назад +59

    One thing I learned: Ultra Necrozma can comfortably tank a V-create, but Dragon Dance, Life Orb boosted Earthquake from Mega Rayquaza WILL put it into Extreme Speed range. I would know: it actually happened to me back in Gen 8 National Dex AG. I tried what I could, even attempting to use Ditto to reverse sweep, but it still wasn't enough. I could do nothing but helplessly, hopelessly watch as Mega Rayquaza laid waste to my whole team. (At that time, I believe my team was Zacian-C, Necrozma-DM/Ultra Necrozma, Zygarde, Ditto, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh)

    • @Ubernewb111
      @Ubernewb111 Год назад

      Fear strats

    • @royal_kim1154
      @royal_kim1154 Год назад +3

      @@Ubernewb111 I see, but I don't like to run FEAR strats at all. I like to fight more honorably. (My definition of "honorable": no FEAR strats and no evasion strats.)

    • @doomknightsepulchure
      @doomknightsepulchure Год назад

      @@royal_kim1154 There's nothing honourable or dishonourable about using FEAR. It's simply a bad strategy that only works against players that have no idea how to play pokemon and instaloses to any one of the 15,000,000 mechanics that counter it.

    • @Ubernewb111
      @Ubernewb111 Год назад

      @RoYaL_Kim 115 MEGA RAY USERS DERSERVE NO SUCH HONOR.
      in any case prankster TW would probably be effective

    • @royal_kim1154
      @royal_kim1154 Год назад +4

      ​@@Ubernewb111 If it does make you feel any better, tho, back in Gen 8 National Dex AG one time (at that time, I was using a mono-Psychic team consisting of Gothitelle, Mewtwo (with Mewtwonite Y), Lugia, Calyrex-Shadow, Lunala, and Necrozma-DM (with Ultranecrozmium Z so that it would become Ultra Necrozma. This team was a for funsies team.) My opponent had Yveltal, Ho-Oh, Necrozma-DM, Mega Rayquaza, Arceus-Dark, and Calyrex-Shadow. Long story short: my opponent still had Rayquaza, Calyrex-Shadow (whom my Lugia paralyzed earlier, and was at 68% health thanks to an Aeroblast from my Lugia), Ho-Oh, and Yveltal left. Necrozma-DM was my last Pokemon...but I Ultra Bursted, and my opponent went for V-create, which hit for resisted damage (still roughly around 44% of my health tho). I set up a Dragon Dance, his Mega Rayquaza (who was only at 1 HP thanks to my Mega Mewtwo Y's Nasty Plot boosted Psystrike) went for Extreme Speed, which left me at like 22% health remaining. Ultra Necrozma proceeded to show my opponent why USUM players feared it. I reverse swept his team with a Photon Geyser to finish off his Rayquaza, a Stone Edge for Yveltal, I used Light That Burns The Sky on Ho-Oh, and finished the reverse sweep with Earthquake on Calyrex-S. Good times...(I even nicknamed my Ultra Necrozma "Galeem")
      My opponent's POV:
      "Mega Rayquaza used V-create! It's not very effective..."
      *Ultra Necrozma's theme begins playing*
      My opponent: Uh...why do I hear boss music?
      USUM players: We all had to suffer, now so do you.
      "The opposing Galeem used Dragon Dance! The opposing Galeem's Attack rose! The opposing Galeem's Speed rose!"
      "Mega Rayquaza used Extreme Speed! The opposing Galeem used Photon Geyser! Mega Rayquaza fainted!"
      "Go! Yveltal! The opposing Galeem used Stone Edge! It's super effective! Yveltal fainted!"
      "Go Ho-Oh! The opposing Galeem surrounded itself with its Z-Power! The opposing Galeem unleashes its full-force Z-Move! *Light That Burns The Sky* Ho-Oh fainted!"
      "Go Calyrex! The opposing Galeem used Earthquake! Calyrex fainted! You lost to RoYaL_Kim 115!"
      No joke: I had a rating of 1710 at the time, and my opponent had a rating of 1770. After my Ultra Necrozma reverse swept his team, I gained 23 rating, and my opponent lost 23 rating.

  • @duskrem_
    @duskrem_ Год назад +23

    Oh man, this needing to be explained makes me feel so old. I remember how huge Mega Rayquaza needing its own tier was.

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 Год назад +16

    Rayquaza got me into Pokémon, back in Black/White era. When ORAS hit, I was glad it got the “so OP it’s in its own league” status.

  • @Ascalis1
    @Ascalis1 Год назад +15

    Wild to think I remember the creation of the "banned to quadruple ubers" tier as a part of Pokémon history that I lived through.

  • @noobslayer7564
    @noobslayer7564 Год назад +27

    Great video! The blunder cameo was mindblowing. Truly one of the agency moments of all time

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад +5

      Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @SSNNPBCC
    @SSNNPBCC Год назад +14

    I still want to see Dynamaxed Mega Rayquaza using a Z-Move

    • @KuraSourTakanHour
      @KuraSourTakanHour Год назад +1

      You wanna blow up the planet?

    • @julianokohlerdasilva3629
      @julianokohlerdasilva3629 Год назад +3

      252+ SpA Rayquaza-Mega Devastating Drake (195 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Arceus-Water: 283-334 (63.7 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      I expected more to be honest

  • @kek13223
    @kek13223 Год назад +30

    I like that mega rayquaza briefly made all the other Uber megas unusable because playing without it would be playing at a disadvantage.

    • @decurry2766
      @decurry2766 Год назад +1

      U could mega ray without a stone, what made it broken was that it can also hold an item

    • @E1666000
      @E1666000 Год назад +2

      Then P. Groudon took its place

  • @skyrander
    @skyrander Год назад +28

    Damn i remember that month
    I was trying to make Uber content and thought there is no way M.Quaza was so busted.
    My god. I saw people running it with scarf to outspeed and lay waste to everything.
    Very nice video Joey!
    Keep em coming.

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад +4

      Thanks for watching bro

    • @skyrander
      @skyrander Год назад +2

      @@XENON3120 :)

  • @rcht958
    @rcht958 Год назад +7

    RIP natdex AG. You will be missed.

  • @Skyzio
    @Skyzio Год назад +7

    Another cool video that would be interesting is how the creation of the AG tier lead to Arceus being ban in it in the 4th gen Uber metagame and the impact of this change

  • @urbanelchert373
    @urbanelchert373 Год назад +4

    This is why we need gen 10 to include everything, like megas, z-moves, terra crystals, dynamax and gigatamax. Imagine a mega Rayquaza with a flying terra type using dragon ascent

    • @GeorgeDCowley
      @GeorgeDCowley 9 месяцев назад

      Hear me out: Rayquaza with a Z-Crystal and Dragon Ascent works like Necrozma.

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Год назад +11

    My favourite AG strategy is running six Tapu Koko. It's got such an interesting movepool and can run so many sets! Most people only run one or two answers for X threat, but once those are gone, their team just gets run over.
    The only thing I fear is Rock Polish PDon.

    • @kartiksaraf4676
      @kartiksaraf4676 Год назад +1

      I have a rock polish groudon and I think I have battled you on the ladder

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez Год назад

      @@kartiksaraf4676 I don't think I ever had a PDon use Rock Polish on me, surprisingly. If it was gen 7 AG, odds are good it was me, though!

  • @ccsleepy8342
    @ccsleepy8342 Год назад +9

    Gen 6 was like “how do you create a mon that’s too broken for other legendary Pokémon” and then 2 gens later we got Zacian. And now we have Miraidon.

    • @AlainReyes
      @AlainReyes Год назад

      I wasnt around during the swsh time and def do not know enough about the new poster boys, are they broken or are they that bad?

    • @devilman4723
      @devilman4723 Год назад +5

      @@AlainReyes dragon/electric with 135 special attack and speed, an ability that sets electric terrain and gives itself a 30% special attack boost in terrain, and a 100 base power move with no drawbacks that gets stronger if it hits something super effectively

    • @AlainReyes
      @AlainReyes Год назад

      @@devilman4723 bRo pls tell me koraidon is just as good 😭 I bought scarlett lmao

    • @anna_medeia
      @anna_medeia Год назад +3

      @@AlainReyes
      Miraidon is broken enough that it was in the same round of NatDex Ubers bans as Mega-Rayquaza. While there's defensive "counterplay" in current SV Ubers for Miraidon such as using Ting-Lu + Clodsire, Iron Treads or Blissey to play around, most of these Pokemon become practically unviable or niche fringe options once all these other cover legendaries are added through Home & DLCs. NatDex Ubers (despite its lack of popularity) gives us a glimpse of what would happen, and it's speed in combination with it's ability to create literal archetypes of teams and to drop nuclear eletric moves + Draco Meteor & Overheat makes it simply far too overwhelming. Mega-Rayquaza wasn't the first mon banned from NatDex cause powercreep gen7, 8 & gen9 introduced Pokemon with ridiculous speed tiers + power such as Zacian (tho it got nerfed in gen9 after what it did last gen), Calyrex-S who will likely be the most broken Pokemon of all time when Pokemon Home releases, Koraidon & Miraidon, Ultra-Necrozma (won't be in Scarlet & Violet), Flutter Mane, Chien-Pao (Gen 8 Weavile on steroids) & Iron Bundle who outspeed & threaten it. Ultimately it's still too much tho and Mega-Rayquaza's the ultimate wallbreaker with nasty Extreme Speed to clean teams that hopefully won't come back with Scarlet & Violet DLCs.

    • @AlainReyes
      @AlainReyes Год назад +1

      @@anna_medeia thanks a lot for the info!! Its a pretty good explanation on what has been going on in ubers :)
      I wonder if certain pokemon that were in SwSH wont be available for SV

  • @user-uv2cp1qd1j
    @user-uv2cp1qd1j Год назад +9

    Mega Rayquaza was like a having a nuke in medieval times
    Now that there are *some* mons that are close to its power (Sword dog etc) just means that Mega Ray has been caught up to

  • @sethnaffziger1402
    @sethnaffziger1402 Год назад +3

    nostalgia, I had a perfect iv shiny ray on oras and would bring it for pvp sometimes when I got frusterated. Would absolutely wreck everything

  • @bruceShine777
    @bruceShine777 Год назад +2

    He sure did cause a lot of PTSD not quite as a certain fiend.

  • @Alex-kx6kw
    @Alex-kx6kw Год назад +1

    I never expected to see a shuckle bust absolutely everywhere less than 10 seconds into a yt vid

  • @piplup2009
    @piplup2009 Год назад +8

    He was so OP they banned him from the tier where you can use anything, and his ability blows away sunlight

    • @chimuoma390
      @chimuoma390 Год назад

      Chronomon HM's Full Power(8 Chronomon Holy Modes,Hacked To Have Max Stats,Max Resists,100% Evasion,The Best Traits,And All The Strongest Moves In The Game,Including The Sovereigns' Signature Moves,Chronomon Destroyer Mode's 11 Exclusive Moves,All The Level 50/60 Set Equipment Attacks And The Best Support Moves!)Destroys The Pokeverse!Digimon World DS FTW!I Made All The Action Replay Codes Myself!Chronomon Used Corona Blast!Mega Rayquaza Was Burned Alive!Chronomon FOREVER!AMEN!

  • @CountGremlin
    @CountGremlin Год назад +5

    I remember when Mega Fug was wreaking havoc in Ubers. My favorite set was Sash SD E-killer for Geomancy Xernias & Surf for Bulky Primal Groudon. Good times.

  • @spartan8696
    @spartan8696 Год назад +22

    This was incredible, my favorite mon really got the everything it deserved.

  • @notarealyoutubeaccount799
    @notarealyoutubeaccount799 Год назад +8

    Hey Joey, I think this is a really cool start to more story-themed videos on your channel. I really want to see you do well, so I thought I’d mention some feedback I have that I think would improve this video, if you think that would be helpful. I noticed that many of the times competitive topics are brought up (for example, Ubers BL) you don’t explain what exactly the concepts are for those who don’t pay attention to competitive singles. I have an idea that could make these concepts easier to explain and more engaging to an audience that isn’t necessarily familiar with the competitive scene: introduce Ubers BL (or other topics related to competitive) through thematic story elements and don’t even use the term Ubers BL. Almost like describing M-Ray as the antagonist to your own personal journey to the land of legendaries (I.e. Ubers), only to run into the one that rules them all, Mega Ray. I think this is a niche that you can pull off, and would separate you from most other creators who take more of an empirical, science-y approach (such as Freezai, for example). I have nowhere near the experience in creating content as you do, but who knows, maybe it attracts some views 🤷‍♂️ Either way, great vid as always, hope you’re doing well 🤘🏻

  • @theplaguegamer6216
    @theplaguegamer6216 Год назад +1

    What was made mega ray so cool is that it only needed a move(Dragon Accent) to Mega Evolve not a stone meaning it would benefit from held item perks (Life Orb I'm looking at you).

  • @Hassassin119
    @Hassassin119 Год назад +2

    Someone at Game Freak must have a hard-on for the weather trio. Not only do they have the highest total stats of all trios Game Freak gave each of them special mega evolutions to completely break them.

  • @joelmccray2594
    @joelmccray2594 Год назад +4

    Can you talk about the story of the legendary cybertron who sacrificed his rotoms will o wisp hits so many times that Pokémon had to buff the accuracy of the move

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
    @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +3

    4:58 HOLY SHI ITS ME, GO LEAVANNY

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад

      Leavanny did the strongest move in the game by running away from the berserk poke. Thanks for watching man and supporting

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад

      @@XENON3120 np.

  • @KingRikochet
    @KingRikochet Год назад +3

    Mega Evolution is my all time favorite gimmick, still waiting for Mega Flygon and Mega Noivern with Aerilate

  • @USSFFRU
    @USSFFRU Год назад +2

    Mega Rayquaza became the standard for Power Creep.

  • @SasukeUchiha-vb2vy
    @SasukeUchiha-vb2vy Год назад +6

    They need to bring Megas back

  • @TheMightyWobb
    @TheMightyWobb Год назад +5

    Mega Evolution was the best mechanic and game freak should have kept with it

    • @Nullmeo
      @Nullmeo 10 месяцев назад

      Oh boy you’re in luck.

  • @dinosaurking8637
    @dinosaurking8637 Год назад +1

    Rayquaza has that power, soloing all of Hoopa unbound’s hypnosis mons

  • @ZelZ-.-z
    @ZelZ-.-z Год назад +6

    MEGA RAYQUAZX MAKING THIS TIER!

  • @neelsharma3870
    @neelsharma3870 Год назад

    Dude with the totodile going like ‘this is a weird trainer battle’

  • @ashfaqatullahmohammed9939
    @ashfaqatullahmohammed9939 Год назад +2

    I love these videos and your narration

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад

      Glad you enjoy my video edits and Joey's narrations.

  • @storm78211
    @storm78211 Год назад +1

    Don’t let this video distract you from the fact that mega rayquaza is outsped by wugtrio

  • @joshuaedward1748
    @joshuaedward1748 Год назад

    Very fitting for the mon who guards the planet from meteors and extraterrestrial threats

  • @davidkiknavelidze2130
    @davidkiknavelidze2130 Год назад +1

    Now that tera was introduced and power has been increasing, I kinda wish megas were allowed to hold items just like mega-ray.

  • @Ravenstorm163
    @Ravenstorm163 Год назад +22

    Gen 1 Mewtwo was the same
    They made a tier for it seperately

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +5

      Gen 1 Psychic went crazy

    • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
      @njivwathomassilavwe2056 Год назад

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy absolutely cracked

    • @jtizzle124
      @jtizzle124 Год назад +3

      That has more to do with how unbalanced Psychic type was in gen 1 honestly

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +2

      @@jtizzle124 true, like Fairies just came out the same Gen ray ray did

    • @jtizzle124
      @jtizzle124 Год назад

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy I always wondered if fairy type was the reason Gamefreak thought that shit was gonna be okay

  • @DizY_8
    @DizY_8 Год назад +28

    Can we get video on why Shedinja is in AG and how it cemented it's position as the greatest Pokemon ever?

    • @okispokis7261
      @okispokis7261 Год назад +8

      Tera.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +8

      Wonder Guard

    • @blomgaming6480
      @blomgaming6480 Год назад +7

      Air Balloon

    • @Slenderquil
      @Slenderquil Год назад +6

      Shed tail

    • @patrickstar8132
      @patrickstar8132 Год назад +3

      It's definitely not the greatest pokemon in natdex ag, let alone ever. Though with Electric Tera + balloon and shed tail support it was incredibly difficult for teams to deal with and resorted to people using silly options to deal with it (I for one ran sandstorm Ferro...on my rain team! specifically for shed!) And with other options like Tera steel and ground etc popping up for stuff like toxic and sandstorm and other things it was simply too much

  • @KimFareseed
    @KimFareseed Год назад

    I remember hearing the birth of AG. The though of what would warant the creation of a banlist for the banlist was quite a terrifying thing.

  • @doctoryoinky
    @doctoryoinky Год назад +1

    Your thesaurus must be exhausted Joe

  • @chimpact
    @chimpact Год назад

    Joey going for the world record of mentioning through edits or thumbnails

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 Год назад +2

    Maybe use a Pokemon that has Synchronize and is equipped with a Flame Orb. This would at least make Mega Ray's physical attacks bearable.

    • @GeorgeDCowley
      @GeorgeDCowley 9 месяцев назад +1

      Synchronize. Trace copies abilities.

  • @5688gamble
    @5688gamble Год назад +1

    The only thing as over-centralizing as evreybody loves mega-ray was gen 1 mewtwo, I mean having a psychic type with absurd special before the split, with amnesia, recover, psychic and ice beam to go for the broken freeze was /almost/ as broken as mega-ray!

  • @jacobmiller9527
    @jacobmiller9527 Год назад

    I still love that a dragon that could escape the atomphere is slower then Whimsicott, a pokemon made of cotton.

  • @daleatsoverton9542
    @daleatsoverton9542 Год назад

    pokémon masters EX brought me back to the pokémon community & im so happy it did bro so much good content

  • @xCallMeDracox
    @xCallMeDracox Год назад

    Steel types: "ha I resist both your stabs"
    Mega Ray "Have you heard of V-create"
    *Steel Types Shaking Intensifies*

  • @darthhydreigon820
    @darthhydreigon820 Год назад +8

    i wonder how the comment section is gonna try to justify how mega ray shouldve been ubers..

    • @rios5944
      @rios5944 Год назад +1

      I am trying to justify why Baxcalibur should of been in OU, I beat Tinkaton and Azumarill with that thing, using just icicle spear

    • @kek13223
      @kek13223 Год назад

      Nah mega ray should be OU

    • @silverbolt9439
      @silverbolt9439 Год назад +1

      It looks cool and strong, there's my reasonings. 😂

  • @justatogepienjoyingchocolate
    @justatogepienjoyingchocolate Год назад

    6:28
    Totodile: you dare face my power?

  • @fabiopinotti5705
    @fabiopinotti5705 Год назад +1

    Really interesting video, thank you for the insight. At times tho you are talking very fast, making it hard to understand what you are saying, looking forward to next episode!

  • @Mahihkan24
    @Mahihkan24 Год назад

    The thumbnail… I knocked out Mega Rayquaza with a Pikachu, Twas beautiful.

  • @sandstand2466
    @sandstand2466 Год назад +2

    the editing on this one went hard

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад

      Thanks for watching and appreciating.

  • @hmalba7864
    @hmalba7864 Год назад +2

    Anything Goes was an inevitability, powercreep is always going to steadily encroach on the game and we need to be able to have an answer for it. Could you imagine current ubers if Mons like Zacian and Miraidon were allowed to just run around unchecked?

  • @danieldelta2464
    @danieldelta2464 Год назад +2

    I miss Megas, Mega Rayquaza was the greatest and that's why I look up at him for belief.
    We need Megas back with new ones I desire like Vespiquen, Froslass, Flygon, Galarian Slowbro, etc.

    • @nycto5335
      @nycto5335 Год назад +1

      Vespiquen really needs it lol. I'd love for her to get one. Flygon would be deserved considering the only reason we didn't get it in ORAS was cuz the artist got artist block. Would be nice to make up for it now.

    • @danieldelta2464
      @danieldelta2464 Год назад

      @@nycto5335 I honestly think for Mega Vespiquen it would become Bug/Fairy with Queenly Majesty for the ability

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 Год назад +1

      I'm pissed off that Mega Rapidash wasn't in the first wave of Mega Evolutions. Just make it an Alicorn for goodness sake! The design already exists, all Game Freak needed to do was add flames! Here's how it should be set up.
      Mega Rapidash
      Ability: Magic Guard (blocks all indirect damage including recoil)
      Attack: 100 - 144 (+44)
      Defence: 70 - 90 (+20)
      Special Attack: 80
      Special Defence: 80 - 90 (+10)
      Speed: 105 - 131 (+26)

  • @capnbug
    @capnbug Год назад

    Oh my god i thought this was a silent video for a second. I didnt realize there was audio until reloading the page like 40 seconds in

  • @tokilladaemon
    @tokilladaemon Год назад +50

    God I remember those first few weeks of ubers. Xy ubers was one of my fav metas ever and I was really excited to load it up when oras came out, just to quickly discover that every single team I played for two weeks straight was mega Ray, two primals, geo xern, arceus and one more mon of choice (wow so creative)

  • @StraightEdgeNexus
    @StraightEdgeNexus Год назад

    The item thing really makes it way more versatile. It can use lum or the weakness reducing berries to setup. Choice sets for the surprise factors. Not to mention that it has the option to go special to power through physically defensive mons like Arceus rock, like specs draco will destroy that

  • @lorddarkrai7712
    @lorddarkrai7712 Год назад +1

    Nothing can describe how insane mega Ray was, honestly he kinda needed to exist, if AG wasn’t created then Ubers would be way more unbalanced

    • @chanderule605
      @chanderule605 Год назад

      Given that Gen 1 Mewtwo and even Zacian were more oppressive (and Arceus was banned from Ubers in Gen 4) Id say there are things that can describe how broken MegaRay was

  • @Ego-Fiend
    @Ego-Fiend Год назад +3

    Why they give this thing the highest base stat in the game, a move pool that would slam all Pokémon in existence, an ability that removes it's flying to weakness, and make it hold any item and gives it a flying type stab that's basically close combat but give a mid ass Pokémon like Regigigas slow start?

    • @danyg0000
      @danyg0000 4 дня назад

      I mean Regigias is by far a mid mon (excluding slow start). It has insane stats with good bulk, decent speed and exclellent strength not to mention a very good movepool. If it didn't have Slow Start it would probbaly be Uber even without an ability

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994 Год назад +1

    That Pokemon and Arceus only changed how the younger generation viewed as the strongest Pokemon. That's it.

  • @lukaskback9710
    @lukaskback9710 Год назад

    2014 Game Freak: “Tiers? How about tears”

  • @Y_z_r
    @Y_z_r Год назад +2

    These kind of videos are amazinng

  • @chrisk1039
    @chrisk1039 Год назад

    While outside of the scope of the video; in some ways there has been dominance to this extent in a tier before, gen 1 mewtwo the only real way to play against gen 1 mewtwo is your own mewtwo. There is even a funny parallel that Mewtwo leading to the creation of Ubers eventually lead to mew getting banned as well where without the precedent of the tier existing it likely wouldn’t have, much like how Mega-Ray lead to Zacian being able to get the boot later down the road

  • @GravityIsFalling
    @GravityIsFalling Год назад +2

    Here’s a list of the most power Pokémon according to nat dex Ubers:
    -calyrex shadow
    -mega gengar
    -shedinja
    -miraidon
    -mega ray
    Yep, all of them were more problematic and banned before may ray was

    • @therumbling
      @therumbling Год назад

      Mega Ray does have a pretty good counter in the form of Scarf Zacian/Zacian-Crowned. It can still nuke crowned with V-create, but ah well

  • @prodoofus327
    @prodoofus327 Год назад

    Mega rayquazza was massively OP, but people also never considered using mega bannette. Legit prankster destiny bond shuts this thing down effortlessly, as well as other threatening mega forms

  • @monsterzero641
    @monsterzero641 Год назад

    For Yu-Gi-Oh, there was Invasion of Chaos.
    For Pokemon, it was Mega Rayquaza.

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 Год назад

    And to think this wasn't even the generation where Megas applied their new speed the turn they evolved

  • @zEr0ic3Gaming
    @zEr0ic3Gaming Год назад

    I just caught my shiny jolly rayquaza about 3 days ago in BDSP in the longest soft resetting I myself ever endured. It was sooo worth it tho. Rayqyaza has been my favorite pokemon ever since I first saw it in pokemon Ruby when I was a kid. Then once I saw its shiny I then told myself "I NEED IT" and that's what I did. I pray for another pokemon game that has mega evolutions, just so I can see shiny mega ray in its true glory!

  • @edwardv4546
    @edwardv4546 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video. Love Rayquaza. Please slow down when you're talking. It was a lot of information to process. Also, you're funny.

  • @lalilu3382
    @lalilu3382 Год назад +1

    love these vids!

    • @XENON3120
      @XENON3120 Год назад

      Thank you for watching Lali LU

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg Год назад +2

    They need to buff Mega Rayquaza in the next game since it's little too weak right now with all of those new pokemon in last 2 generations.

  • @pokefriend123
    @pokefriend123 Год назад

    The shiny Rayquaza event from ORAS so good, I got one and it’s been ripping Timid Banded Ascents online all day everyday! 🥴

  • @jamesfernley7225
    @jamesfernley7225 Год назад

    Straw that broke the Camerupts back, amazing. Surely someone else has commented this!

  • @ant14amazin
    @ant14amazin Год назад +3

    I think Arceus actually caused the creation of anything goes all the way back in diamond and pearl days, but ended up being brought back down to Ubers due to power creep, until AG was revived for Mega Ray.

  • @RyanMakesStuffOccasionally
    @RyanMakesStuffOccasionally Год назад

    It's been a while since I took a break from competitive and your channel and its nice to see how your content has developed. Love the new content and production values, just work on your speech clarity and maybe slow down a bit to sound more natural.

  • @evbevbeats
    @evbevbeats Год назад +1

    Can you make a video on what gen u think had the most power creep? I'd like to see how gen 7 affected good mons of the last gen

  • @666ibb
    @666ibb Год назад

    Arceus : im the god of all pokemon.
    Mega Ray : smells like a bitch in here.

  • @mattstork2203
    @mattstork2203 Год назад

    When a pokemon gets banned from ubers you know its OP

  • @davepumphernickel9568
    @davepumphernickel9568 Год назад

    Honestly I had a really good set up back in gen 6-7 with Mega Char Y Talonflame, Aerodactyl, Lilligant with atk for def, and I’d try too bust they’re set up usually going for Talonflame or going for Aerodactyl or Groudon as a legendary just to make sure sunny day and rock slide were secured but I would always take some massive losses for my first two pkmn if they’re Talon and Aero or just sweep the team hard after setting a tailwind, and then cripple one of the enemy pkmn with a rockslide stab from aerodactyl flinching one, or just straight up brave birding they’re Pokémon if I knew the kill was for sure, overall charizard and lilligant take the end half of the match with a timid charizard and tailwind secured after neutralizing they’re trick roomer through either the method described or switching out one Pokémon, I had a really awesome set up, although friggin Mega Aerodactyl was a weakness, same with Kangaskhan, everything else was pretty fair though or a cake walk. Overall though Mega Rayquaza was a pretty alright pokemon, I just called it the super kamikaze Pokémon though, my set really didn’t have any interference with its abilities so it got one turn and then it was either dead on the second after killing one normal Pokémon or got mucked with a flinch/crit from a rockslide and died, Aerodactyl was a speed god back in gen 7 then things changed so he’s not as useful but maybe he’s ok with proper protection I’ve been out of the battle scene for a while.

  • @3godzilla3
    @3godzilla3 Год назад

    I've said it before and I'll say it again,
    It's "Ray-QUAY-za"

  • @dasamont8274
    @dasamont8274 11 месяцев назад +1

    I like the idea creating a new tier ladder for restricted mons with Uber Uber, Uber OU, and Uber UU. This way the pokemon that are way too strong for normal Ubers can gets sent to Uber Uber, and the pokemon that doesn't see play in normal Uber, but aren't allowed in normal OU, can be used in Uber UU.

  • @kris6038
    @kris6038 Год назад

    Weird for this video to be so historical when I lived it.
    But yeah, holy shit. Mega Rayquaza was like bringing a nuclear bomb to a street fight.

  • @steamed_ham1767
    @steamed_ham1767 Год назад

    One small problem, AG kinda existed before with gen 4 arceaus and yes I obviously got that from vsg

    • @pokeaimMD
      @pokeaimMD  Год назад

      Wasn’t a playable format tho where you could actually find battles on a ladder

    • @steamed_ham1767
      @steamed_ham1767 Год назад

      @@pokeaimMD I’m way too young to have played in gen 4 so I’ll take your word for it :)