Sabu - Why TEST Refused to Sell for CM Punk in ECW
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Sabu discusses how pro wrestler Test was difficult to work, not giving a s*** about him and the time he refused to sell for CM Punk in WWE.
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Title Match Network is back with another exclusive from the legendary Sabu.
Hear about the time when former WWE, ECW, TNA star Test (Rest in Peace) did not want to cooperate with CM Punk's offense. Sabu was with Punk backstage with he and Test were going over the match.
It all went down before an episode of the WWE's ECW reboot. ECW is Extreme Championship Wrestling, what many consider the #3 wrestling promotion next to WWF and WCW in the mid 1990s.
Test (Andrew Martin) unfortunately passed away from a drug overdose in 2009 at the age of 33.
We also discuss John Kronus (RIP) and Perry Saturn aka The Eliminators. Also, hear Sabu's thoughts on wrestling fellow ECW star 2 Cold Scorpio (aka Flash Funk) on Monday Night Raw.
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“I didn’t wish death upon him, but I didn’t cry either.” 🥶
Honest I love it
I feel that way about my mother 😅.... Just waiting to see if I shed a tear 😆
Well hey he said he was treated poorly by the guy so its honestly fair
I felt that so much when he was saying that when people die they're all of a sudden a saint when they weren't. It's some delusion due to death we should only think of good and not bad but that's never true especially if the person was wholeheartedly terrible. I've seen it a lot in life and has always confused me.
"It's either good about the dead, or nothing but the truth"
You don't need to respect the dead if they weren't respectful while alive. Those folks who believe that also believe that a guy in the sky saved everything and this is his result lol. So i understand why confusing. Also most nerotypicals lie and never say how they feel.
When my mom dies I'll be happy because the world will be safe from her. The dead isnt sacred life is but most think its judt a vehicle to abuse while they're "saved"
In the torah it reads that this is out paradise so we live our life like this is all we got. So if you're an asshole now when you're dead you're just a dead asshole. You die who you are not some fabled hero who did some things with talent or paid skills. Everyone does big whoop lol those dame folks who glamourize death made a rich loser white supremacist a president. Those same folks let murders go because of xyz. Those folks excuse so much it allows an excape to harm. But those folks have a church every square centimetr.
As along as your a ghost who believes in the passion of mel brooks than you're good homie.
Same as when Shad Gaspar died saving his son all of a sudden a lot people became Shad Gaspar fans.Look he is human hero but as wrestler he was ok that is not going to change it.
It's called forgiving, when people forgive, they actually feel lighter. Don't keep grudges on people, the only person who loses is you
That is so real what Sabu is saying about death. Even people Im close to when they die I don't put them up as saints.
Met sabu many many times when he worked for TNA and he's a great guy
super genie, gone but not forgotten!
Sabu hitting the Penjamin in the beginning
"Causes I'm 6"7 and you're nottt" Lmaoooooo a giant saying that 😂😂😂 sabu got me there
And look what happened to test career, not obviously would happen to him because he died, but I’m saying when you don’t do business, the business doesn’t do you and obviously ended up becoming one of the bigger stars of the modern
Love Sabu. Honest man
Has nobody considered that Test had been overlooked for years by this point (and also over sold for years in my opinion for his size) so was most likely trying to get the 'Brock Lesnar' push this time, Paul Heyman also always spoke very highly of him on commentary in his earlier years and was most likely pushing for him too!
Even Brock sells, though. Nobody is above being asked to sell for the guy who you work with. It’s a dance, it takes two to tango.
No he was a bad on ring performer
He was alright he was just boring kinda liek Corbin,good on the midcard but not a main eventer@@GunnarStahl99
the guy sounds like a damaged baby. you may be huge but 4 year old’s know it’s fake.
@@GunnarStahl99The fact that you posted that only shows us all you have no idea what makes for a good in-ring performer.
I wished Paul Heyman had his way in the WWEcw. It would have been so much freaking better and epic and guys like Sabu and CM punk would have shine through!!
Heyman also made Big Show and Test into monster heels so Sabu and co. could get over as faces defeating them. Pretty smart
If there is 5 people or 5000 I’ll give it the same . . . Sabu ☯️💪
Keeping it real
I'm pretty sure he's just wearing a ripped up pillowcase
Dam didn't know test was rude asf an snitching the Boy's 😂😂
What I love about Sabu is that he tells it like it is. Doesn’t matter whether you like it or not.
My impression of Test was because of his size and good looks he always seemed to get a push that ultimately went nowhere because he just didn't have the charisma to get the fans behind him as a babyface or draw enough heat as a heel, then when the invasion happened and the roster got bloated with wrestlers who did have charisma and were just as big if not bigger than him he went on the juice a little too much, add recreational drugs and painkillers to that and that was that.
Very sad but a common story in the wrestling business back then
He had some degree of charisma when he was Steph's (and to a lesser degree Stacy Keibler's) bf, but when that storyline was over (yet another Hunter crime) they didn't use him right, and he didn't have enough skill to propel himself further into the main event either. Didn't help that his addictions and bad attitude, which fed into each other, soured his presence in the locker room. Still, he was a good enough tweener midcarder, and a great big boot, fwiw. RIP.
Mickey Gall didn't sell for CM Punk either. And he was nowhere near 6'7".
Still punk making it to UFC twice and doing better the second time is more than local jiu jitsu tournament loser mox will ever do he wouldn't even make it past sparring.
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tulol
I used to love watching Test his intro music was really good bet it was a Test facing him
Test, Test, Test, Test, Test…..that’s literally the only thing memorable about him from my childhood lol
@@gullyblanchard5750 not mine I remember him coming out lots of times to that music looking and acting like a real bad ass looked good in the ring wouldn't want a boot of him
@@TheHarlemShow01 yeah that’s what I said, I just remember him with that music. He looked good but this was the Attitude Era, everyone looked good lol. He had good music, was apart of the corporation and oh, almost got married to Steph. That’s pretty much all.
@@gullyblanchard5750 Actually,he had enough notable moments for a mid-carder. And,prolly he would've been better than today's any upper-carder.
@@gullyblanchard5750 Were you not watching RAW in '03 when Test had a long drawn-out feud with Scott Steiner over the managerial services of Stacy Keibler? Test even went over on Scott Steiner and won this feud! This was the BEST character Test played on WWF/E programming, in my honest opinion-most of my Test memories are from this period. 2003 should've been the year for Test to get elevated into the upper midcard/main event scene!
With Brock Lesnar leaving; if only Test didn't get that neck injury in '04, I can see him getting drafted to SmackDown in '04 and being the guy to dethrone Eddie Guerrero for the WWE title-rather than it being JBL. I feel like Test was certainly more of a draw than JBL ever was! Test (as WWE champion) could've assembled his own faction; similar to The Cabinet, only way better.
Test
Luther Reigns
Sean O'Haire
Mark Jindrak
and a heel valet (maybe Miss Jackie, or someone fresh from OVW!)
This would've been a monster faction on SmackDown, but life didn't work out that way, furthermore; WWE creative probably would've slept on the opportunity regardless, lol. APA could've also still been doing their thing on SmackDown! within this timeline, and I know for a fact people would've loved to see that!
That cartridge is running on empty
Bet its got thc in it
Bet he goes to the weed vendor alot
The most normal ecw wrestler besides rvd (especially when hes smoking weed).
why does it seem ..all the Canadian wrestlers are dead?? lol!😂
You got a point there.
They can't hang with American culture
And while Jericho and Edge are still alive physically both of their careers in aew is dead asf so you're right on that
Nobody likes a tattle-tell.
Test failed the Test
So test was a rat... wow
It's that WWE locker room mind set. Too competitive, and too protective of their spots for their own good. Always was a Test fan, but he clearly had issues that weren't just exclusive to addiction. Being part of that weird "fraternity" culture that seems so prevalent did no favors when he came to WWECW. Hi career seemed to cool down after the brand split, and once ECW was paired up with Smackdown, which had a reputation for being a more chill environment compared to Raw's locker room, and you're gonna come across as a manchild.
Test
Damn just by one Interview I’m a Sabu mark
Test refused to sell to cm punk.I refuse to sell my position with prism technologies group inc przm. It’s about time for the price to recover.
I mean he kinda had a point, it should be something stronger than just a few punches from a guy half his size. Work him down then punches would work
Agreed, like you say Test should have no sold only at first and eventually get worked down into selling, not just no-selling it all like he apparently wanted. But then again go tell that to the indierific crowd that thinks moves and psychology should be like in choreography/gymnastics and/or videogames.
@@carlosnn8150 the art of selling and when to no sell is all but dead. Sami does an excellent job at it, but look at those two morons last night, Will and Max. All of a sudden after going for 20 min they are sprinting and no selling power moves to each other. So stupid. That’s why they are in AEW and WWE didn’t break the bank for them, they’ve got alot to learn about moving from indie BS to the big time.
@@carlosnn8150That's what happens to the wrestling fanbase when you don't gatekeep it from all the dorks who drool over predictable gymnastics crap.
"I'm 6"'7' and you're not"
Yeah, and Sabu's alive and you're not.
Barely, tbh
ok?
It wasn’t even aimed at Sabu lol
Gotta be honest... CM Punks entire character was when I shifted from WWE to MMA. I get the love for him, but he was the turning of the tides of "we're not even trying to attempt to make this look real." I agree with Test. Punk should be getting ragdolled.
im dead, rey mysterio won the world heavyweight championship as a cruiserweight but a 6 foot cm punk is what drew the line 😭😭
@@mor4665
You forgot the part where both Rey and Dominic would destroy Punk in a fight, hell Mysterio's daughter would destroy Punk in a fight.
@@mrcool1519 you forgot the part where i asked
Rey Mysterio was an exception to the rule though, in a typical but always occasional David v Goliath storyline (so as not to tire out the trope); and even Rey always looked more fit than waffle house punk. Granted, at least Punk was more skilled than most of his other indierific generation pals, but that's being like a big fish in a small pond. When all the matches became not even David v Goliath, but actually David v David, alongside the stupid PG era storylines and characters (ex Supercena), it's when we started seeing today's decline.
@@mrcool1519It's obvious Punk just makes you cry. The guy failed dramatically in the UFC but with years of MMA training he's beating up most people around his size, if you don't see that then you're just clueless.
lol keeping it real.
Sabu was awesome in the ring but he was well known to be a loon in person. There is a reason a lot of people didn’t like him
He's socially awkward or soemthing but whatever
@@wingedhussar1453he’s mentally insane that’s his problem
@@night6724 uses not
Man, I loved Test, why did I click this? Never look behind the veil.
Yea but thats only one side of the story we ll never get to hear Tests side of anything. And id rather watch Test any day than watch Sabu
@@ezekielluna6265 rene dupree said the same thing. Test was stiff as hell. Nearly knocked rene out with a slap. He didn't know how to work without hurting people or he would have been a main eventer.
@@mickporter1488 I asked about Test on their livestream a few weeks ago. I dont know if he was just stiff with people he didnt respect, or if it was with everyone. He worked Taker on ppv and didnt get fired. I doubt Test was too stiff with Taker, maybe just with certain people. I liked his matched and seeing him in the ring though. That being said i dont doubt he was stiff, Shaemus kind of reminds me alot of him build and move wise, and Sheamus is also stiff. Theres a diff between botching and working stiff.. So i dont think it was exactly terrible. Yea i wasnt in the ring with him but as a fan i liked watching him in the ring, he had good moves, what a big boot. And I think he was underrated, and the fact of the matter is he will never get to give his sides of certain stories. And id rather watch him than Sabu.
@@mickporter1488 That slap though was a classic Rene being a heel and Test being a face ass kicker at the time, i mean its not ballet. He was supposed to give Rene a really hard slap and send him on his ass in that moment. Because Rene slapped him first to start that spot. Lots of other people are known for having heavy hands or being stiff or hurting people, some of the Greats actually like Cena and RVD
@@mickporter1488 Renee Dupree is a druggie who cries about everything and everyone during his time in WWE. There's a reason why they won't bring him back. 🤷♂️
Test took too much Test... 😮
There's nothing necessarily wrong with being stiff.
I saw nobody having problem with Test,he used to be stayed silent in backstage according to other wrestlers,refs. Sabu sounds salty pretty much.
@kemalmighty nah sabu is pretty real.
@@kemalmighty2288 As much as I love Test, I've done my research; Sabu is not being salty at all here-he's very humble with everything he says, he's telling the truth; simply recounting his own personal experiences with Test.
Test has always been a stiff worker, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, (honestly it made me believe his in-ring work a lot more, and it certainly got Test over in my book; in addition to his excellent character work, entertainment value, and charisma!) it just didn't do Test any favours to be conducting himself like that during his second WWE run.
Before returning, remember that Test broke his neck in '04 while wrestling on the RAW brand towards the end of his first run. Test was released from WWE in late 2004, because WWE claimed they "couldn't afford" to keep paying him for a year, while he recouped his neck injury.
Test literally said in his final interview, the only reason he went back to the WWE again, instead of retiring; was to shove their treatment towards him back up their ass. So, when he returned in 2006 and debuted in ECW; he was juicing the roids harder than ever before, being more stiff than ever before, and also-more bitter and politically stubborn than he had acted, ever before.
It's unfortunate, but I just think Sabu and basically the entire WWE/ECW roster found themselves in the same workspace as Test, when he was essentially in his most toxic headspace. Politically though, the dude (for whatever reason) just could never get over with VKM and the office; not enough for them to give Test the push, that many fans at the time, did feel he deserved!
At the end of the day, I don't think Test was a bad guy at all. I just think he was deeply misunderstood and frustrated by the political nature of the business, and the dwindling direction that the trajectory of his career ended up taking.
If Test was just used a little better and actually treated with some respect from some key people, I think Test would've made a greater effort to return that respect to the business, and truly become a better worker; the potential certainly was there.
It's lazy.
@@DownfallDarkness Test might be the uncrowned king of start and stop pushes.
Pg punk gets hurt playing with Barbie’s nowadays
Does Sabu have wax teeth ?
Test was the man
Funny shirt considering
Seeing that Cm Punk killed wrestling Test knew what was best for buisness and i highly doubt he made Test sell for him.
Cm punk changed the wrestling business by paving the way on the indie so today a company like aew can exist
Punk didn't kill wrestling. Vince did
@@ayoubsaad800
Aew is a joke
@@alextreecko4449
Nope punk did.
Wrestling died long before Punk made his little pipebomb speech, he only made it worse since you have all of these lazy ass guys *coughs the aew roster* breaking kayfabe relying on the internet dorks but again it was dead long before that
Test went up a notch in my book.
I can understand why test wouldnt sell for punk. I wouldnt either. Punk is the biggest hypocrite
Test died in the late 2000s this was before CM Punk’s ego got out of control
@@treywar25 I know that part. I'm glad you see that he has a big ego. Cm punk fans act as if he's a perfect man and never does anything wrong
@@mercuryman1250 he really is unlikeable since he came back lol
@@treywar25 exactly. I heard he want to run nxt. That's a bad idea
@@mercuryman1250 I liked when HHH ran NXT, heard he’s doing a good job for Raw/Smackdown… I’m more into watching the old stuff though.
He treated you like an asshole or did you act like an asshole?
Asking a question already answered
Test snitching on others drug use is heinous hipocritical or not ..That type of behavior is unexceptable..If it’s true it is absolutely deplorable but For his souls sake if he asked the Lord to forgive him 🙏✝️ its all
ok.
Bingo Hall wrestler
Sabu needs to let things go if someones dead. Hes only hurting himself by holding on to resentment