Should the Minnesota Twins rebuild?
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
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I honestly don't know what I'd do with this team at this point. Your highest paid "leaders" can't stay on the field. Your promising youngsters have come back down to earth, and some of them are starting to look like outright busts. Your manager is making decisions detrimental to winning games, yet will be returning. You have festering internal disagreements. Younger audiences (or anybody for that matter) are unable to stream the games. There doesn't appear to be any meaningful accountability for failure within the organization's decision makers. The owner prioritizes the business over championships, so it doesn't look like payroll will be increasing. You have division rivals doing more with less and are showing a hunger desperately lacking here. It's a complete mess from top to bottom. I hope they can find a way through it, but I'm not optimistic.
EDIT: Looks like they just sorted-out the streaming, so at least that's one less problem. Now they just need to field a product people will want to watch.
Yoi are spot on!
This is brilliant. You spoke what I strongly feel is the truth on every single thing you touched on. Especially the manager! And Terry Francona was available and we didn’t get him. Good grief!!!
I'll always be a twins fan no matter the season but it's time for new ownership and manager and can we please stop going after players who are close to the end of their career let's bring up some of these younger players and let's see what they can do
I'd rather see the kids than washed up vets like Farmer, Vazquez, and Margot.
Roster:
Offense - Ryan Jeffers, Jose Miranda, Brooks Lee, Carlos Correa, Royce Lewis, Trevor Larnach, Byron Buxton, Matt Wallner, Christian Vazquez, Austin Martin, Cheap Veteran, Willi Castro? Alex Kirilloff?
SP: Pablo Lopez, Bailey Ober, Joe Ryan, SWR, David Festa
Bullpen: Jhoan Duran, Griffin Jax, Brock Stewart, Cole Sands, Jorge Alcala, Kody Funderburk, Louie Varland, Headrick?
Its literally impossible for the Twins to rebuild barring Correa demanding a trade.
Correa is probably untradeable. It's unlikely that he would pass another team's physical exam. The Twins are stuck with him so they need to plan for the times when he is disabled.
The Twins have already rebuilt mpst of their pitching staff. Starters Ober, Lopez, and Ryan are good. Richardson is good enough. Festa is improving. Relievers Jax, Duran, Sands and Alcala are good. None of these pitchers should be traded. Paddack and Varland have potential value only as Relievers, not Starters. Derek Falvey makes mostly bad trades; his roles should be changed if the Twins insist on keeping him employed. Falvey may be good at obtaining players for the Twins minor league teams, but he shouldn't be making trades. Falvey also isn't good at signing players to reasonable salaries; Vazquez and some other players are paid too much.
Derek Rodriguez for twin brave .07. Rene tosoni left right field .01, tim Beckham .02 LF for twins
Sell the team
I agree
Rebuilding and Rightsizing are one and the same term in this situation. The high dollar players do not fit the little engine that could business model. To their credit the Pohlads have never lied about their intentions to remain profitable at all cost so they will never pour the money it would require to push this roster over the hump. So that leaves the Twins just one path to success which is catching lightning in a bottle with a bunch of young cheap players. “Rebuilding” is unfortunately probably the right move to bring the roster and the self imposed financial constraints in line with each other.
Number 1...please get a shutdown left handed reliever. Better yet..get 2.
They need front end pitching and more bullpen arms. They have bats coming up. Maybe they should trade some for something better than a #3 starter. Lopez needs a huge bounce back season. He was garbage last year. Almost every game he starts he allows a 1st inning bomb and the Twins start the game down a couple runs. It was like clockwork. If pablo is starting put money on a 1st inning jack and you will win more money than you lose. I like Joe Ryan and Ober has some grit to him. To me Pablo is overrated and gives you something to feel good about maybe once a month. Usually very frustrated with his starts. Duran needs a rebound season as well. He used to be unhittable now not so much. Jax is quality. If they want to be the Rays and As theu need to get better pitchers. The Twins trot out 3 #3 starters thats not gonna get it done. None of them have amazing stuff.
I say they trade prospects. The Twins haven’t impressed me with developing their prospects and bringing them up. A few years ago it was all about Buxton and Sano neither of whom have really done well. Sano is gone and Buxton can’t play the majority of a season after spending a couple years as a very unimpressive player.
"Rebuild" the ownership group. Lol
Im currently shopping for a new baseball team to follow. Still love baseball, but can do another season as a Twins fan. I don't care what they try to do this off season because it won't be to win a World Series, it will be to make money. Not getting more of mine.
Royals. My opinion. I'm sorry
@@kevinscott593 I've spent too much of my life cheering against the other AL central teams. They are my pre season world series bet though
Id hate to admit, but the more the twins disappointed me the more I want to talk about them lmao thank you for these episodes even when the Szn for the twins is done
I think they are better than a team that needs to rebuild. That being said, the window is coming to a close. Give them 2025. The pieces are there. You need depth to cover your butt on your 3 injury prone studs (and hope Royce Lewis remembers what a baseball is) and a few pitching additions. After that, a little injury luck and this is a playoff team. That being said, I am a Twins optimist, much to my peril.
The Twins have already been rebuilt at most positions. They must keep the young players that can be good: 3rd B - Lewis, 2nd B - Lee, 1st B - Miranda, Outfield: Wallner, Larnach, Castro. None of these players should be traded; they could improve if the Twins have good hitting coaches. The Twins are stuck with Correa at SS and Buxton in CF; they are very good players but could be disabled at any time. The Twins have other minor league players that can be good - they shouldn't be traded. The keys to Twins success are good hitting coaches. Trying to launch balls for Home Runs usually is bad hitting strategy; with RISP it leads to strikeouts and wasted scoring opportunities with baserunners LOB. Joe Mauer could be a very good hitting coach.
Nope. Still pissed. I don’t want them to move just new owners/ managers.
Call Oakland and see what it would take to get Rooker back.
Rooker is a free agent this off-season.
@@benjames4502 ohhhhhh, then he is going to get a really good pay day.
Tiger and Washington Senators (Twins) HOF Bucky Harris.
i didnt listen to much of your crazy speculation on the crazy rebuild, but man. that grid. WHAT HAPPENED BOYS!? HOW DID YOU LET MACKEY SINK YOUR GRID??!?!
I NOW HATE BOTH JUDD AND YOU DEX! YOU DID THIS! YOU LET THIS HAPPEN
U can not argue with the manager Period lewis needs to b traded immediately for pitching pitching pitching
Baseball no longer rewards teams for intentionally losing, a rebuild will take years as the twins have no trade chips. If you think the fans are angry now, see what happens in consecutive losing years.
Milt Cuyler for Tigers 30 SBs
Twins management needs to trade Vasquez, Paddick, Castro, and kirilloff to open up salary, then add 10 million from last year's payroll to bring in players that will make a difference.
Here’s the problem Ben, letting Kepler, Santana, Margot, Thielbar and Farmer go will only cover the guaranteed increases in salary for Buxton, Correa and Lopez. Factor in that several Twins are eligible for arbitration like Castro, Larnach, Ober etc. and even before you add a single new player, the payroll will be around $133 million and Pohlad has already said he’s sticking at $130 million.
No one wants Kiriloff, Vazquez or Paddack. Would you want to take on the $10 million guaranteed next year on Vazquez?
Issue with that is to have someone take on the salary of paddack and Vazquez you will need to send them a prospect. Castro I would be for trading
@@Razorbacks1I understand what you're saying, trading Vasquez will take a prospect included. The prospect we get from trading Castro may be attached to Vasquez, kinda sucks but it should work. Trading Paddick will take another minor prospect, no way around that but doable under the right circumstances. Including trading kirilloff, that should save right around 25 million so payroll should be right around 108 million. We the fans need to put pressure on ownership to spend the extra 10 million more than last year's payroll, that would give fail-vey 32 million on the free agent market. I know, I know, we're talking about the Pohlad's and fail-vey, I'm being too logical.
@@elevatewithoutlimitsyou're right, the Twins will lose one net prospect from the farm system but the trades open up 25 million in payroll. Honestly, if next year goes to shit, the Twins may trade those men they signed this off season to enrich the Twins farm system.
@@Razorbacks1my bad about kirilloff, teams like the Tampa Bay and Milwaukee will take the risk but the return won't be much.
Dont buy tickets🎉
Sell the team to an ownership group that wants to win and is willing to “lose” money because they’ve got other businesses and can write off the “loss”. Build a winner in MN.
How about Griffin Jax in the starting rotation? I know this would create a hole in the setup role, but I could see it happening. Easier to replace a bullpen arm than a guy that has the pitch arsenal to pitch in the rotation. Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Jax, SWR looks good. Move Paddock to the bullpen or trade.
That is a good idea. Worth a shot anyway.
Jax was a starting pitcher, he struggled severely. This is a bag idea, Jax has proven himself in the bullpen.
Hell no. He's a top end closer. He would be a mediocre #3 starter. Twins have 6 starters right now that look promising already.
They won't rebuild with this current ownership!!!
They should sell to Rodriguez and Leary
Lorre? I agree they should sell.
@darrinthurston3308 yes... hahahaha couldn't remember which one. LOL
Current ownership must go!!!
Don’t care if the Pohlads own the team. They are among the worst owners in baseball.
Since Baldelli is still here to make a mess of things i dont care what they do. I wont go to any games, and i doubt i will watch them much (if that is even possible) because i can't
stand Baldelli. a left handed pitcher comes in and left handed hitters are batting over three hundred. righties are batting .230 agains him and Baldelli (mr statistics) take out the left handed batter and pinch hits a rightie. WTF
I don't care what you call it, but one thing I would do, is get rid of Lewis. He reminds me to much of Sano.
Ha! If they get rid of Lewis he will be much more like Ortiz than Sano....it would probably be in Royce's best interst to be traded as he isn't going to learn anything from these "leaders" the Twins currently have.
@@joeacker703 Ortiz could hit when they got rid of him. Lewis didn't show me anything the last 6 weeks, just like Sano. They both talked about how good they are. Lewis has to show me he can play a whole season. He sure didn't this year.
SELL
All Minnesota major sports suck and all the sports radio stations also suck…..boring.
Someone should post Pohlads address
All of his addresses he owns like 30 homes