I wanted everyone to know that: I have NEVER known anyone to call any locomotive cab an "office enviornment" and the control stand a "desktop console". Lol
Wonderfull video. Also i recongnised some part of driver panel: reversing lever, throttle lever near the end of march but reversing and brake, who often manipulates, engine driver . We have and used also General Motors Diesel locomotive made in Romania in cooperation with GM - USA. GREETINGS FROM ROMANIA - European Union
To CONTINUE...even today...there are FIVE HUNDRED Electro Motive/GM (EMD) Union Pacific SD40-2s being processed for complete rebuild (after countless "overhauls" and several "total rebuilds") that are 40 years of age in a "Life Extension Program" similar to a U.S. Military "SLEP" (Service Life Extension Program) which will keep said 40-year old (and some slightly less old) units in service for another 15 to 20 years!!! While much newer GE C40-8 models have been "Lease Returned" but run on CN Rwy
@JetMechMA: The fireman comes from the steam days. He was the one who made sure the fire was hot & the boiler had enough steam being produced. That position was held on to when diesels came but was slowly given up. The brakeman used to have to set the brakes on the train by hand until Westinghouse's invention of the airbrake. Most brakeman positions were kept for switching duties (since they did this as well). If there's a 3rd person on a freight train crew, then that person is the switchman.
@JetMechMA wWhen the engineer got too drunk, the fireman took over. when the fireman got too drunk, the head brakie took over. Between all three you should be able to get to your destination. That was back in the good ol days of course.
@kdevies: There are almost always 2 people in the cab. In this case, it's the engineer & conductor. Amtrak long distance trains & many regionals are the only trains w/ 2 engineers in the cab since the conductors are in back in the train. In the past other people that would've been in the cab w/ the engineer are the fireman & the brakeman. Today, if there's more than 2 people, then the 3rd is a switchmen.
It's hard to believe that those very 60Ms were the launching point for the ACEs of today. ACEs meaning SD70s. That really is a vault in time right there.. Ode to those vacuums!
@secret1service the train brake is the air brake (applies brakes on cars & all locomotives) & the independent brake applies brakes on the locomotive(s) only
You notice that the narrator says "one of the locomotives failed" ... then when the consist rolls by the second GE is silent, all of the EMDs are plugging away!
It depends on the model. But...you got a good answer that they can be kept running "FOREVER" which is true such as for "historic diesels," etc. As for your basic question, the ECONOMIC LIFE of them, GM-EMD diesels such as the one in the video tend to have longer lifespans than GEs (tho this is evening out a bit...but the overhaul interval on EMDs is pretty much a million miles vs. 750,000 miles for GE). And after one good overhaul, time for a "rebuild."
@roasted420 Actually, "bumped" is a correct term. If you actually look at our work rosters (BNSF), the board your placed on when you've been displaced is actually called the "bump board".
Look for an open postion as a conductor trainee. You're in a classroom for a few weeks, then you're a student conductor. Usually your first job is being on the extraboard. Once you've been a conductor for 1 to 2 years you look for and engineer trainee postion.
That "Stretched out diamond" in the middle of the track is additional rail that has been placed there over a short bridge. It is there in case the train derails--it is supposed to "trap" the wheels and keep the train from going over off the bridge onto the ground below. Almost all bridges and trestles have these--whether they really work all the time is debatable with some of today's top-heavy stack trains.
That's from around 1990--1991 or so. But the GM-EMD SD60M model shown in the cab-ride portion is very similar to the VAST amount of EMD SD70M units the Union Pacific ordered as "fleet replacement" models from 2000--to--2004...the first 1000 of which in the initial order of which constituted the largest domestic order of a single locomotive in U.S. history, and after the initial thousand-unit order was completed, the UPRR kept coming back for more and more until the EMD SD70ACe line came in '05.
Probably. Actually you don't even have to drive it because theres no steering wheel. it just goes where the tracks go. Of all the freight lines in the US this is probably one of the hardest because it could be pretty easy to stall the train if theres snow and ice on the rails.
From my understanding, many engineers prefer the traditional AAR control stand set up to the left. Interesting that a number of modern locomotives have been coming from the factory with the traditional setup again.
Interesting, though. From what I've been told and have read a good number of locomotives engineers dislike the desktop control stands and prefer the traditional AAR setup with the control stand to the left. One engineer who was tall complained that his knees always hit the underside of these desks.
@trainman2816 Where can I see a glimpse at them? If it's at the end, then they really got the script screwed up, as that would be a pair of GEs sandwhiched in between EMDs.
well there are these steel things called tracks, and while on them the really long things (trains) cant go in any direction but where the one the other long things (tracks) lead.
Many thanks for this video. At the end when the helpers are joined, what type of loco is the 3rd one from the front, it sounds different to the others, kind of stutters?
Thanks. I don't know for sure if I'm still going to want to be a train engineer when I'm ready to apply for a job but ever since I was little I've always wanted to work for the railroad. We'll see what happens.
@@steelcityrailfan4808 kind of. Was a conductor on a tourist railroad for a couple years. Now work in the ski industry. Ended up following a different passion
عندما اشترت مصر جرارات قطارات الامريكية لم تسطع العمل على خطوط السكة الحديد اكثر من 6 اشهر وكانت كثيرة الاعطال ولكن الجرارات الالمانية اكثر جودة وقوة كبيرة عن الاميريكية وتعمل بكفاءة كبيرةمنذ 20 عاما وهذه المعلومات لكم للعلم وشكرا
@TrainDr101 OH cool! I had to go through the Bluew Mountains for my class trip to Wyoming. I love eastern Oregon and the Bluew Mountains. The Bluew Mountains reming me a lot of Colorado.
@8747csx alright thanks, yeah I've heard the hours are rough and I understand you can get "bumped" from your job by an employee with more seniority and have to take a job at a different location. That doesn't sound fun.
yeah. Do you get in alot of trouble with whoever is in charge of keeping trains on time if you don't make it up the hill? I don't know who is in charge of that maybe dispatchers or roadmasters or someone like that.
Well thats good. I really want to work for the railroad but I'm somewhat colorblind. I can usually tell the difference between green, red, yellow but I sometimes get red and yellow confused. So I think that pretty much eliminates jobs like engineer or conductor. There are contact lenses that correct color vision but I don't know if the railroad would allow me to where them because there are kind of a new thing and they might be skeptical of them. Do you know?
@railroadjeep I guess it's which railroad you work for and what part of the Country you're in. On the L&N, my dad used to talk about getting "kicked" off his Hazard 4 mine-run job he held for about 6 months--7:00am and you were home for dinner..Of course with his seniority, he could just kick somebody else..lol
@8747csx 12 on 8 off must be the most appalling working conditions imaginable. I have to tell you guys that we are light years ahead of you in working conditions down under. A minimum of 11 hours off unless you are at an away from home rest location where no travelling to and from work is needed. Then it is a minimum of 8 off. 5 weeks a year annual leave, 1.3 weeks a year long service leave payable after 10 straight years......yep, 13 weeks off on full pay if you want it plus your 5 annual.
@roasted420 Thats the beauty of seniority, unless your the bottom guy, there's always someone else to bump! But yeah, I figured it was probably a regional thing. We had a bunch of crew's loaned to us in the NW that were from Texas, thier verbage for certain things varied from what we called it. Railroad dialects I guess!
The narrator's comments are ironic as quite a number of locomotive engineers, reportedly, dislike the desktop control system and would take the AAR style controls on the left side hands down.
The SD60M vibration box. It seems to me that the 60M vibrates more than the GP/SD's of days gone by. The isoated cab solved a lot of that though. I bet this unit does not have that beautiful Leslie 3 chime horn anymore.
You can't get "bumped" or "kicked" anymore on CSX... at least not in the CSRA. You bid on jobs on the mainframe and each week are awarded a permanent position for the next week according to seniority and who put what job where in their bids.
@8747csx had always been a dream of mine. but im medically ineligible for this. if i cannto drive a truck i sure as hell cannot work onboard oen of these
Austin guard rails so in the event of a derailment it will help to keep the cars on the rail bed. Usually on culverts and bridges, water crossings etc.
Always love it when people that work for or have connections with the railroad take vid from inside the cabs of engines. Thanks for sharing!
I wanted everyone to know that: I have NEVER known anyone to call any locomotive cab an "office enviornment" and the control stand a "desktop console". Lol
Wonderfull video. Also i recongnised some part of driver panel: reversing lever, throttle lever near the end of march but reversing and brake, who often manipulates, engine driver . We have and used also General Motors Diesel locomotive made in Romania in cooperation with GM - USA.
GREETINGS FROM ROMANIA - European Union
To CONTINUE...even today...there are FIVE HUNDRED Electro Motive/GM (EMD) Union Pacific SD40-2s being processed for complete rebuild (after countless "overhauls" and several "total rebuilds") that are 40 years of age in a "Life Extension Program" similar to a U.S. Military "SLEP" (Service Life Extension Program) which will keep said 40-year old (and some slightly less old) units in service for another 15 to 20 years!!! While much newer GE C40-8 models have been "Lease Returned" but run on CN Rwy
@JetMechMA: The fireman comes from the steam days. He was the one who made sure the fire was hot & the boiler had enough steam being produced. That position was held on to when diesels came but was slowly given up. The brakeman used to have to set the brakes on the train by hand until Westinghouse's invention of the airbrake. Most brakeman positions were kept for switching duties (since they did this as well). If there's a 3rd person on a freight train crew, then that person is the switchman.
I love the action on the La Grande sub.
Nice little film, well shot and very enjoyable
One of my favorite engines!!! Well done!!!
Great video. SD60 is my favorite locomotive
nice video... Cab rides are the coolest videos.
:P
@JetMechMA wWhen the engineer got too drunk, the fireman took over. when the fireman got too drunk, the head brakie took over. Between all three you should be able to get to your destination. That was back in the good ol days of course.
@kdevies: There are almost always 2 people in the cab. In this case, it's the engineer & conductor. Amtrak long distance trains & many regionals are the only trains w/ 2 engineers in the cab since the conductors are in back in the train. In the past other people that would've been in the cab w/ the engineer are the fireman & the brakeman. Today, if there's more than 2 people, then the 3rd is a switchmen.
It's hard to believe that those very 60Ms were the launching point for the ACEs of today. ACEs meaning SD70s.
That really is a vault in time right there.. Ode to those vacuums!
@secret1service the train brake is the air brake (applies brakes on cars & all locomotives) & the independent brake applies brakes on the locomotive(s) only
@secret1service yes,1 is the train brake (red lever) & another 1 is the independent brake lever (short gray lever)
You notice that the narrator says "one of the locomotives failed" ... then when the consist rolls by the second GE is silent, all of the EMDs are plugging away!
@kmothersil The standard cabbed SD60 locomotive debuted in 1984. It's the SD60M that debuted in 1989, and Union Pacific was the first customer.
It depends on the model. But...you got a good answer that they can be kept running "FOREVER" which is true such as for "historic diesels," etc. As for your basic question, the ECONOMIC LIFE of them, GM-EMD diesels such as the one in the video tend to have longer lifespans than GEs (tho this is evening out a bit...but the overhaul interval on EMDs is pretty much a million miles vs. 750,000 miles for GE). And after one good overhaul, time for a "rebuild."
@roasted420 Actually, "bumped" is a correct term. If you actually look at our work rosters (BNSF), the board your placed on when you've been displaced is actually called the "bump board".
Look for an open postion as a conductor trainee. You're in a classroom for a few weeks, then you're a student conductor. Usually your first job is being on the extraboard. Once you've been a conductor for 1 to 2 years you look for and engineer trainee postion.
That "Stretched out diamond" in the middle of the track is additional rail that has been placed there over a short bridge. It is there in case the train derails--it is supposed to "trap" the wheels and keep the train from going over off the bridge onto the ground below. Almost all bridges and trestles have these--whether they really work all the time is debatable with some of today's top-heavy stack trains.
That's from around 1990--1991 or so. But the GM-EMD SD60M model shown in the cab-ride portion is very similar to the VAST amount of EMD SD70M units the Union Pacific ordered as "fleet replacement" models from 2000--to--2004...the first 1000 of which in the initial order of which constituted the largest domestic order of a single locomotive in U.S. history, and after the initial thousand-unit order was completed, the UPRR kept coming back for more and more until the EMD SD70ACe line came in '05.
Probably. Actually you don't even have to drive it because theres no steering wheel. it just goes where the tracks go. Of all the freight lines in the US this is probably one of the hardest because it could be pretty easy to stall the train if theres snow and ice on the rails.
They weren't required when this footage was taken. The FRA regulation went into effect in 1997.
Very Nice Video!!
Isn't that then an SD60M
Either way AWESOME!
From my understanding, many engineers prefer the traditional AAR control stand set up to the left. Interesting that a number of modern locomotives have been coming from the factory with the traditional setup again.
Awesome video!
*Add UP playlist and 5 rating!
Interesting, though. From what I've been told and have read a good number of locomotives engineers dislike the desktop control stands and prefer the traditional AAR setup with the control stand to the left. One engineer who was tall complained that his knees always hit the underside of these desks.
Near the end of the Video: "I think I can,I think I can"
Cool Video! :D
Nice work :)
@trainman2816 Where can I see a glimpse at them? If it's at the end, then they really got the script screwed up, as that would be a pair of GEs sandwhiched in between EMDs.
NO, they use the standard control stands like the SD40-2's
That's why GE is producing some of the best diesel locomotives today...
Death Awaits these are EMD's though
I loved this!
well there are these steel things called tracks, and while on them the really long things (trains) cant go in any direction but where the one the other long things (tracks) lead.
It's a safety mechanism to keep the cars or locomotives from derailing and going over the bridge.
Awesome Video
Many thanks for this video. At the end when the helpers are joined, what type of loco is the 3rd one from the front, it sounds different to the others, kind of stutters?
Thanks. I don't know for sure if I'm still going to want to be a train engineer when I'm ready to apply for a job but ever since I was little I've always wanted to work for the railroad. We'll see what happens.
Did you dream come true?
@@steelcityrailfan4808 kind of. Was a conductor on a tourist railroad for a couple years. Now work in the ski industry. Ended up following a different passion
Cool
Goose from top gun???
Great video !!
عندما اشترت مصر جرارات قطارات الامريكية لم تسطع العمل على خطوط السكة الحديد اكثر من 6 اشهر وكانت كثيرة الاعطال ولكن الجرارات الالمانية اكثر جودة وقوة كبيرة عن الاميريكية وتعمل بكفاءة كبيرةمنذ 20 عاما وهذه المعلومات لكم للعلم وشكرا
Nice leslie RS3L
@TrainDr101 OH cool! I had to go through the Bluew Mountains for my class trip to Wyoming. I love eastern Oregon and the Bluew Mountains. The Bluew Mountains reming me a lot of Colorado.
tremendo video lo disfrute mucho .gracias
Okay thanks for the info.
@Busdude97: i believe this is UP's crossing of the Bluew Mountains in Oregon.
Nope. SD60M, SD60MACs were a demo for the BN with only four units built. There are a couple SD60ACes being built as a test bed at the LaGrange shop.
@8747csx alright thanks, yeah I've heard the hours are rough and I understand you can get "bumped" from your job by an employee with more seniority and have to take a job at a different location. That doesn't sound fun.
Pretty awesome ride! Was that a triclops or a dual window SD60M?
Triclops
Sweet!
does it matter?
It could
CottonBeltSD40T
lol.. not really
at the end of the video, when the freight train is going uphill I can't see any SD60 loco
are there two engineers to the an engine, and are the helper engines manned?
@Classicnovaguy just reads that up is looking to add 1,300 jobs, not sure what kind though
Caltrain has quite a few engineers
No room for your knees, you can't stretch out.
@censor48 Yep, all of them. Some of the bigger ones have full-time bridge tenders that inspect them daily.
yeah. Do you get in alot of trouble with whoever is in charge of keeping trains on time if you don't make it up the hill? I don't know who is in charge of that maybe dispatchers or roadmasters or someone like that.
@BNSFandSP No, ther are SD60Ms. Look at the trucks.
Well thats good. I really want to work for the railroad but I'm somewhat colorblind. I can usually tell the difference between green, red, yellow but I sometimes get red and yellow confused. So I think that pretty much eliminates jobs like engineer or conductor. There are contact lenses that correct color vision but I don't know if the railroad would allow me to where them because there are kind of a new thing and they might be skeptical of them. Do you know?
@gp40mc
the correct term is "kicked"..you get kicked off your job by some body with seniority..just part of it.
Jointed rail never sounded better.
I quite agree. mate
Do SD60's with spartan cabs use desktop controls?
Where's he is driving? I love the scenery since 3:24
North eastern Oregon I believe
Wow. Is this the '90's?
@railroadjeep
I guess it's which railroad you work for and what part of the Country you're in. On the L&N, my dad used to talk about getting "kicked" off his Hazard 4 mine-run job he held for about 6 months--7:00am and you were home for dinner..Of course with his seniority, he could just kick somebody else..lol
@8747csx 12 on 8 off must be the most appalling working conditions imaginable. I have to tell you guys that we are light years ahead of you in working conditions down under. A minimum of 11 hours off unless you are at an away from home rest location where no travelling to and from work is needed. Then it is a minimum of 8 off. 5 weeks a year annual leave, 1.3 weeks a year long service leave payable after 10 straight years......yep, 13 weeks off on full pay if you want it plus your 5 annual.
@roasted420 Thats the beauty of seniority, unless your the bottom guy, there's always someone else to bump! But yeah, I figured it was probably a regional thing. We had a bunch of crew's loaned to us in the NW that were from Texas, thier verbage for certain things varied from what we called it. Railroad dialects I guess!
my nephew loves trains
The narrator's comments are ironic as quite a number of locomotive engineers, reportedly, dislike the desktop control system and would take the AAR style controls on the left side hands down.
Whar are make: bip,bip, bip ! Speed control or driver engineer pedal control ?
cool cool cool.............:D
Uh ya, they have windshield wipers too.
Looks like a happy engineer. I hear however that as of today, these are some of the worst-riding freight locomotives on the rails.
The SD60M vibration box. It seems to me that the 60M vibrates more than the GP/SD's of days gone by. The isoated cab solved a lot of that though. I bet this unit does not have that beautiful Leslie 3 chime horn anymore.
You can't get "bumped" or "kicked" anymore on CSX... at least not in the CSRA. You bid on jobs on the mainframe and each week are awarded a permanent position for the next week according to seniority and who put what job where in their bids.
Does this take place in Colorado?
My guess is those "SD60s" are actually SD70MACs.
he went over switches fast
SD60 Mac?
What is that bell for on the train?
Buddy!... it's a SD60M...
GO Leslie RS3L!
NS Has Computers!!!
The very last unit is an SD60
lol its my office too
What are these vehicles? Why are they so long? How can a man drive such a long vehicle?
whats wrong with desktop controllers
Hyper loop ke bare main video banao
Correct.
@8747csx had always been a dream of mine. but im medically ineligible for this. if i cannto drive a truck i sure as hell cannot work onboard oen of these
Yea thats why the sd90's are the biggest hunks of junk up owns and about 90% are in storage.
What year was this? This video looks old?
Bikerguy94 early 90s
EMD is the BEST!!!!!!!
2:00 You can see this stretched out diamond piece in the middle of the track. What is the purpose of that?
Austin guard rails so in the event of a derailment it will help to keep the cars on the rail bed. Usually on culverts and bridges, water crossings etc.
2:00
Also known as check rails.
got his reply after 6 years, what a trooper
What is that lump of metal directly in front of the driver's forrard window? Removing it would improve vision.
That's where you put the sand for the leading set of trucks
Those old noisy things are in need of retirement or bought by class 2 and 3 railroads...
Did he say they were roomy and comfy. My ass says otherwise as does my stacking of my gear in ways UPS would be proud.
i saw some beast dash 8's
Union Pacific is always the best of the others. Greetings from Indonesia.S467