Sam Harris on Afterlife
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I've always loved your talks. Thank you for your hard work!
Sam Harris.. One of the greatest.
Thanks for watching!
@@AgatanFnd My dumb 'old people phone' won't let me comment! I've missed your vids!! Followed for years! And I'm happy to hear you, great voice! 👍💙💖🥰✌
@@Alacritous He's been a mentor, for me, and his content I like.
Even though I've seen this Sam Harris talk many times... its always refreshing to me
Sam is appealing to Christian annilationism, and not to the general Christian version of the afterlife: default immortal spirit so one can be blackmailed into heaven.
The idea of resurrection was exclusive to Jesus. The interpretation from it, is varied otherwise in Christianity.
A Moral Commander cannot reconcile this reality of unequal natural suffering so it's all mental masterb....n anyways.
@@fredbmurphy I'm sorry, but resurrection was absolutely not unique to Christianity. The main godess in ancient sumerian religion was (way before judaism, much less christianity, but in similar area) was hung on a stake, died , went to underworld and was resurrected 3 full days, (not the 'weekend', like jesus in the Bible,) by the god who wanted her as wife. And, like in zoroastrianism, the jews believed, still do, that they'll be resurrected when the messiah comes, it's why they require natural burial. And in hindu, again, much older than christianity, (in fact, it's the oldest religion in continuous practice) lord Shiva 'died to save humanity' and resurrected! I think that, too, may have been 3 days, but I'm not sure. To many ancient peoples, 3, 7, 8, and 40 were all 'magical' numbers. Virgin births claims were even more common. So, nope, nothing 'new' in biblical stories. 🥰✌
I'm a simple gal. I see Sam Harris, I click. thank you for these many videos.
He's quite fantastic
I’m
We need more simple gals
Just basing my opinion based on your comment I’d say you are much more than just a simple gal. And if you really are just a “simple gal”, then our society needs soooooooooop many more women a whole lot like you…
Simple boy here, these people are truly inspiring.
Thank you for all of the videos you’ve posted. No matter what happens to all of the past compilations, I can assure you, they were never wasted and have had a huge impact on my progress from Christianity to rational, logical thinking. Thanks again from the state of Alabama, for what you’ve done and continue to do.
Nice!!! A rational and logical thinking native Alabama citizen!!!!
You seem to be a rarity in that demographic
While I love the content, I don’t love that this channel appropriates this content from other sources and presents it as its own…and presumably benefits from it. Agatan had nothing to do with the organization of these talks or their filming. So how does it get away with stealing the content?
I'll bet that smarts ... as a non-American I nevertheless appreciate a well delivered low blow.@@mattorr2256
Everyone is born atheist.
Religion has to be taught.
Atheism doesn't have to be taught.
We are all born as atheist until someone starts telling us lies.
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There are various types of lies.
There is also purgery.
@@BeachsideHank
Law enforcements are taught to lie. Law enforcements are allowed to lie.
@@dianahill5116 fake news here ladies and gentlmen, we dont need soft llberals spewing crap here
everyone is born pooping themselves and drooling too.
i guess athiest just never grow up.
Sam Harris is one of the most enjoyable people to listen to. Sharp and also very humorous. Great stuff!
He could easily have been a comedian aswell. The guy is funny!
Beware! Sociopaths and narcissists have a lot of charisma.
@@carolmartin8781
Are you saying Sam Harris is a sociopath and a narcissist?
@@NN-wc7dl He could be.
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He has "charisma", according to you, and therefore he could be a psychopath? Okay, interesting take. I suppose people with charisma can be a lot of things, for example, non-psychopaths? Are you often concerned with what people "could be"? Isn't that a very odd interest? Maybe there's some mental diagnosis for that too. Perhaps you who are seemingly well-versed in psychological illnesses can tell?
Atta Boy! Very clever. I could listen to Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens endlessly. After this I can only conclude we don't know who we are or what we should strive for. Thanks for putting these guys out there. I miss Hitchens and I only knew "about" him through youtube. Sam H. has to be my favorite level headed thinker of these times.
I think your 4th. sentence says it all, which means you gained absolutely nothing but confusion from Sam Harris.
@@carolmartin8781Or that we should acknowledge that on these matters absolute knowledge is not possible.
Debating, thinking, listening, reasoning, challenging is what we can engage in.
Assuming a finite existence makes these pursuits all the more important.
Faith in someone/something taking responsibility on our behalf may generate warm feelings but will progress humanity zero steps forward.
@@christianappleford5434 Those who are learned believe they are autonomous and able to provide for themselves. They believe they don't need God. They believe they are in control of their life. God has hidden the Kingdom of Heaven from the learned and has revealed these things to the little ones. God gives rest to those who labor and hurt in the ways of the world. God's yoke is easy. All you have to do is declare Christ as your savior and you will be saved from the wretched slavery of this existence. Gospel of Mathew
Blind faith solves all our problems?? Of course, how silly of me.
@@christianappleford5434 A priest prayed for strength and God sent him problems. The moral of the story - Solving problems makes you strong.
I really enjoy these videos. Sam Harris never gets nasty but says what he needs to. Thank you .
Thanks for watching!
But a lot of us know he is nasty but clever.
Thank you for all your efforts - you are much appreciated! Looking foward to your future videos!
Thank you for your extra work in keeping your videos accessible.
RUclips’s new policies are crap. Those compilation videos were great.
Thanks for all your hard work. Your channel is amazing.
Thanks for all of your hard work. I think I can speak for all of your fans when I say it is all truly appreciated.
Agatan is back, love it. Thank you for your work
Good on you mate - your work hasn’t been wasted - Ive watched your whole library multiple times, have learned a lot and have loved every minute.
It takes one to know one.
So great to see this channel come back to life - one resurrection I can believe in ❤
16 bad bc it's all deterministic in this way and well I certainly don't go that hard on it but like when you tie evolutionary theory into these things you really do start to see that like every single thing about your entire life is connected to this and one of my favorite things to talk about is is like bringing in ecology and talking about how like our place in the world and everything else's place in the world and how it's not just the phylogenetic tree it's also this beautiful web that connects it like ah it's so good dude it's so good it's it's so tremendously empowering too to think about the Wonder in our position not only in and of ourselves but in relation to every other living thing bc one thing and I'm sure you relate to this for us but one thing I like to point out when I'm talking to to students at my University right is like humans are special and so is everything else right everything on this planet it's given Niche is excellent truly unique at one or two things and humans are no different I hear a lot of times people say well a chimpanzee has never Humans Evolved, Deal With It! SkepTalk
atheists are lost
I appreciate your content. You are underated. You do the best job of bringing the key points and arguments of these well spoken intellectuals of our day to an audience that would otherwise never know most of their names. I'm sorry about your lossed monitization but I hope you can experience more opportunity than loss through this. You've done some of the best at providing highlights of the Baldwins and Twains of our day as they reason and debate their best hits. It's wonderful. Hitchens will likely always be my favorite.
You've got the passion and dicipline to make them better than your originals and now you have somewhat of an advantageous opportunity to go forward and make them better. I look forward to watching your updated content.
Thank your for your videos. Your effort is invaluable.
Glad you like them!
@@AgatanFnd you and your videos are co-responsible for my conversion. ❤️
Keep’em coming. Have loved your videos for a long time 👍😎
There are 2 extremes. One the one side you have Sam Harris. Eloquent, well read, insightful, clear and concise. On the other you have Jordan Peterson. He is also well read, but he is long winded, intentionally confusing, and rarely ever comes to a point.
Love the content man. Been a fan for years! I'd put "with commentary" in each title to help the algorithm.
Clarity of thought like this is unbelievably refreshing, and, dare I say, *encouraging* (?)
Keep up the good work brother. We can't have enough of this.
Agatan Foundation! Yay; now it let me comment. My phone is messed up, I could only reply on one of your replies! Had to leave and come back! I love your commentary! Long time sub, just poor! 👍💙💖🥰✌
I hope you have local copies of all of your videos, I watch relatively regularly and often come back for Hitchens. I would hate for any of them to be lost. Your commentary was well written and definitely adds to the original content. Keep up the good work, we’ll keep coming back!
Just adding a comment to show my support and appreciation for what you do!
Your work is important. And I admire your dedication.
Absolutely amazing. The truth hurts, but it's still the truth.
The devil mixes truth with lies and many will be deceived.
I'd like to echo the thanks of others for all the videos you've worked on over the years. It hasn't been wasted; there are untold numbers of people that you've helped by broadcasting these compilations. Many times for me it's helpful to go back to these snippets of whole videos to help clarify arguments, thought processes, without having to wade thru all the BS from the religious folks.
I do have a request, which I recognize may not be easily accomplished. But if you happen to have the details of the full debates/addresses, etc., could you post them in the descriptions? I can't tell you how many times I watch your videos and then want to watch the full thing, but it can often be a daunting task to discover who the people are, what the event was, what the topic of debate was, etc. Again, I realize that might not be easy (or even possible), but just thought I'd put that out there.
Many, many thanks for these vids. They help. And nothing that helps so many people is ever wasted.
Excellent, keep them coming XX (I've missed you) x
Thank you for a new upload on my personal favorite guru
I'll admit I do suffer from depression but as I say all the time," I do not understand how anybody can wake up and think that it's a good day that day, when we have all this crap that goes on in this world." I care about people probably way too much... and I'm an atheist. Whenever I see other people in pain I nearly feel all of their pain myself. ( note that I said nearly because I would not claim that I know all of their pain... But since I have this thing called empathy I can put myself in their shoes pretty well)
The universe does not care, the infinite amazing and always expanding reality, what ever that is has no emotion about anything. Feeling is our curse. Us and dogs, they seem to get emotional, anyhow nice that you care. So you should be proud yet remember not to let it hurt you and always remember that there are downs which are followed by up times. Get up, you can own that too.
When Sam talks about the laptop and that we justify our good fortune as godswill at the end of that piece of oration would be good to have included. It’s a profound and revealing connection he makes there thank you so much for these compilations. We are all the better for them.
17 built a rocket to the moon could you right you're right where's your rocket absolutely right like if nobody was going to like cumulative cultural memory we are nowhere without the people of the past all the way back from 300 000ya with the origin of homo sapiens all the way back to the beginning of homo to the first australopi that picked up a stone and decided to whack it against the bone right we you're only where we are bc we learn from people that came before and I bet if you drew 100 random people from the planet they couldn't build a car let alone a rocket ship and so I think that we truly are unique at is social connection and communication it's not that we're so much smarter than everything else it's just that our social relationships has facilitated the ability to transmit knowledge through space and time better than anything Humans Evolved, Deal With It! SkepTalk
atheism is darkness
Your time was not wasted on the videos you have made. They had a huge impact on me.
Welcome back.
Looking forward to your commentary.
Do you know whether RUclips will ever make you take the compilation videos down? Is there any place where you’ve archived the compilation videos, if so? It would be such a loss knowing that I’d be unable to find them, as I come back to them regularly. TY for your work!
Loved hearing your comments
Did you get Maajid Nawaz to narrate this video or is this an example of A.I voice over with his voice as a sample?
AI
@@AgatanFnd it sounds great and maajid is an excellent choice of narrator
Pure Gold. 👍❤️
There's a pretty good argument that our lives on Earth are actually hell; we're already dead and this is hell. Life is far closer to hell than heaven for most, if not all, mankind. It's funny that everyone just assumes heaven/hell are somewhere and sometime different than our "now".
Time isn’t linear, past present and future are all equally real as “now”
I have learnt so much from listening to your videos. They are what has kept me sane in this crazy world. I really love listening to Christopher Hitchens also. My experience growing up in a strict Catholic family and being educated in Catholic schools was a very cruel experience for me and quite abusive at the hands of the Good Samaritan nuns. It’s obvious how dangerous religion is, it treats people as dumb and a way to make money.
Boo Hoo! Did they slap you on your wrist with a ruler.
@carolmartin8781 I hope he also get some massage from nun
Bravo 🙌
I suggest uploading your videos to Twitter.
I'm sad for all of the great content that will be lost due to policy updates like this. There are some old clips that I've only seen in compilations.
Bruh, it’s so weird to think that I use to hate these people every time I watched their videos in the past as a Christian……and now, they’re my favorite people to watch as my deconversion starts and everything makes so much sense now. No idea why it didn’t before, I mean I know why but still, I didn’t see it, but now I do. And I’m glad I am now. Reality sucks for sure, but there’s freedom in it knowing I’m no longer in the religious matrix I was my whole life. Well most of my life.
Good for joining reality. Slowly but surely many more will join us freethinkers. Signed ADOS male.
The devil mixes truth with lies and many will be deceived.
@@carolmartin8781 since I don’t believe in the devil anymore, that could be a problem for you. What if you’re being deceived?
@@paulolosi1452 That was a witty comeback. What you choose to believe is not a problem for me. It's your life not mine.
@@carolmartin8781 that’s a problem for you as well, in case you don’t know, you don’t choose your beliefs. It’s either you’re convinced of something, or you don’t. But it appears you’re choosing your beliefs, tells me you’re not convinced of it. Are you really a believer?
Thx
Commenting for engagement.
What is the closing music?
Is the narrator the guy from the cold fusion channel? Sounds the same!
It’s a good thing that RUclips is banning “compilation” videos. People who post RUclips videos should NOT be allowed to steal content and benefit or even profit from its theft. While I agree that in some respects, the world benefits from the free exchange of ideas, people sitting in their homes, behind computers should not benefit from the work or intellectual rigor of others without adding little or nothing. The bar for “fair use” is remarkably low, and if you’re too lazy to even reach that bar, too damn bad.
😂😂 who hurt you? Did someone pirate your content? You sound really angry
@@animatres23 I believe theft is against the law and intellectual property is constantly being stolen. I worked for a newspaper and people stole our content constantly. Newspapers, the last bastion of real journalism in this country, are now all but dead. Younger generations with no talent to produce anything and having grown up being given all they wanted, now think they’re entitled to take anything by any means possible.
There is no Afterlife; There is ONLY life. Mortem Death is only our best known master metaphor for ‘changing directions.’
Sad, You create your own life and your afterlife. Changing directions can still mean you're going to the same place because there are many ways to get there.
@@carolmartin8781 it’s hardly sad😊…we are unseparated from source…our deeper aspect knows what’s going on and celebrates EVERYTHING…there’s no beginning to “us” and no “end” because there’s “no time.” You can’t look at this from the limited lens of human experience. Just KNOW that you are ALL things , and your at where you’re at by right of consciousness- if you can conceive it, you ARE it..we are not individuals, we are individuated, see? Therefore, there’s only one voice of “god”, You Carol☺️..
my journey permitting this understanding is LOTS of meditation (listening), neuroscience, quantum mechanics, physics, and the science of emergence and phenomenology…
We are ONLY LIFE, and are well acquainted with “death “ since we’ve experienced it billions of times….
Finally, think about what propels the “earth “ experience- mystery, curiosity- perpetual nirvana in this current awareness would drive us mad…so enjoy..
The Best
Sam Harris is amazing, his intelligence is brilliant.
I suffer from "Anomic Aphasia" It means I don't remember the names of people, or even vegetables for that matter, but it doesn't mean I'm totally ignorant. It's just a small section of my brain that's been damaged and it's most frustrating when it comes to debate, I lose it.
Is it just me that thought this was a review of Rick Gervais show!
Any person who tells you what happens to a human being after they have died is either a fool or a liar
Here's an idea: the best afterlife, at least from the perspective of this life, and the perspective of this life must rule supreme, because it is all that is, the best afterlife is that which does not matter, because if it matters, then this life does not matter. The quantity of relevance that you place on the afterlife, you take from this life. Would you like to consider this life unimportant? Maybe, it is your business. But should i? If yes, then it would no longer be my business, and if it would not be my business, then yours should not be your business, meaning you should not have the beliefs you have. The afterlife, at best, it does not matter.
Life or conscientiousness is not a substance like water or air. It is a process like fire. When you put out the flame on a candle, it doesn't go anywhere, it simply stops. And that is what happens when we die.
Maybe we are energy , with no judgements attached to it,
Sam Harris is the future 🟥🟧⬜️🟫🌬🕯
By "deleting" you surely mean just making your work no longer available on RUclips.
For years I too have very much enjoyed your compilations of a clarity. Words always far above any ability I ever had to articulate anything beyond maybe an occasional vague sense of missing out on something. Your content is and has always been a great guide to educational individuals everyone should have the opportunity to hear.
This frankly annoyed me to a degree where I am now quite determined, pardon the pun, to follow and promote your future content religiously. 😤
6:30 the suicide nets were at FoxConn, who is closing down China operations to move to India. FoxConn also promised to build big in Wisconsin and that was a waste of time and money.
Wherever we were before we were born that's where we go when we die ...
I wish we could get rid of terms like "die" and "death". There are alarming and misleading. People don't die, they just stop living, and there's a critical difference in meaning and impact. Same with death. Nobody is in a state called "death", it doesn't exist.
People just live for a finite time, and then stop living.
When a vacation ends, you don't consider yourself in a state of "vacation ended", it's just over.
"There is no Justice, just us."
Is that a Terence Stamp voice modulator? XD
Not sure. Can we get a clip of the same voice demanding that we "Kneel before Zod!" to help figure it out?
There is so much hate for Sam Harris out there. Think because he doesn’t pander to the right or left. I wish we had more people like him to help encourage critical thinking
Have you ever asked anyone why they don't like Sam Harris or do you think you can read minds and understand the basis for other people's worldviews in just a sentence or two?
@@carolmartin8781 funnily enough people are only too happy expound
You didn't do enough research -- Sam Harris has since adopted the view known as Generic Subjective Continuity, which he discussed at length in his episode "The Paradox of Death". In it he dives into the philosopher Tom Clark's essay "Death, Nothingness and Subjectivity". I implore you to search "Sam Harris Generic Subjective Continuity". He still doesn't believe in anything supernatural, and GSC is completely naturalistic, but he has made progress in adopting this conclusion of what will happen after death _if_ there are infact no supernatural afterlives or souls, and we truly will cease to exist at death.
I am not arguing for a "religion-based" view of these large and important questions, but most of the arguments presented in this video seem to be based on the false dichotomy "since the religions I have heard of are obviously incorrect, then there is no afterlife". Another claim is that since science has not been able to provide evidence of an afterlife, therefore there is not an afterlife. In my view, all religions have very silly beliefs associated with them. For my evidence that there is an existence beyond this one, I offer 1) the memories of some children of past lives, which sometimes provide checkable evidence 2) Some near-death accounts where the brain is not functioning, yet the person provides evidence that they could view and hear events, both near their bodies and at other locations 3) The evidence provided by evidential mediums of deceased persons, or souls, being aware of, and commenting on, events which took place since their physical death. 4) This one is necessarily anecdotal, but I have had dreams where I was talking with people I know who were deceased. These dreams were very clear and seemed very "real", and not like my usual "goofy" dreams. Also, most of us have "had a feeling" of how some event will turn out, or have thoughts about someone just before hearing from them, or getting news about them.
As examples, see the case of the child who remembered being a pilot in the Pacific during World War 2 who remembers the circumstances around his death, and the people he worked with, and even attended the reunion of his flight group; the near-death experience of Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurologist; and the work of evidential medium Suzanne Giesemann, a retired Navy commander. To me, the evidence provided by these facts prove, to my satisfaction, that we existed before our present lives, and that our existence continues beyond these lives. Religions can be helpful in some ways, to some people, but certainly do not provide a satisfactory explanation to our questions.
Camus nailed it. Life is absurd.
15 do one of the last shows I was on I remember what it was we were talking about secular sexuality and we were talking about proximal versus distal explanations for something I can talk about like any one action that I do if I throw a rock at some guy if I take a drink of my soda here whatever I can say I did this for simple reasons I wanted to and that's a very proximal explanation or I can look at what was my brain chemistry doing this past five minutes that what kind of mood have I been in the past five days what's my month been like how am I getting paid how much am I eating how much am I exercising also what were my parents doing when they raised me and what were their parents doing and going back a million years what selection pressures caused the kind of personality that eventually led to me today there's this direct line that goes all the way back for every single little thing and you have great neuroendocrinologists people like Robert sapolski who talk talks about how like in a really really purely theoretical framework nobody should ever be held responsible for anything ever good or Humans Evolved, Deal With It! SkepTalk
atheisim is really dumb
Just how hard is it too know that Death is the opposite of Life? Death can only be the deepest sleep imaginable, ie. Exactly the same as our existence a million or billions of years ago. Two words come to mind, Existence and Nonexistence. Quite simple I believe.
“Sleep” is more a religious term.
If I could cease to exist I would have done it 50 years ago.
@@carolmartin8781 Just think you and I will be dead for millions of years.
@@Earthtime3978 Speak for yourself.
@@carolmartin8781 No, I’ll speak for you. Unless you’re either too dumb or too sensitive to face reality.
11:00 sounds a lot like scientology!
I come from a Christian family, weve had a church for 40 years, so ive had some exposure to religion, ive always questioned the concept of heaven and hell and jesus died on the cross for my sins, never made sense to me, being a logical thinking person....growing up seeing people hanging out of windows, having to decide whether to die from intense heat or jumping 90 floors to their certain death during 911, made me realize, if their was a god, he does care what happens to us, in my city, i small child ran between parked cars, got hit by a car and killed, they said it was gods will, later that same day another child does the same thing, but gets saved by a person walking by, they said its gods will, god saved our child, if gods involved and lets one child die and the other live, theres something very sadistic about that, just like sam harris says, 9 million children die or killed every single year, where is god to save them, if there is a god, hes not involved, why does he allow the catholic church molest children, there are too many whys,
Maybe God is saving those children who died. God wants to see how we respond to bad things happening. Some people respond by allowing the seed of hatred into their hearts. Does everything have to be understood and logical? Love is not logical? The Bible says don't rely on thine own understanding. God is so beyond us and we're not capable of containing it all. That's where faith, hope, and love come in.
@@carolmartin8781 that is the most twisted, illogical answer, you could give, your brainwashed, if theres a god, that's watching over us, he's very sadistic and cruel, is isn't a good reason for God to allow all these horrible deaths to occur, period, live your delusional Christian life, whatever works for you, when you die, you'll be eaten by worms, like the rest of us
@@carolmartin8781 Because the Buybull tells you so? Broaden your horizons and read outside the Buybull. Study how the Buybull was compiled for one thing. Then consider how many denominations and sects there are just because your holy (book full of holes) is interpreted in so many different ways. This very fact is the reason for so much divisiveness and religious wars. One would think the all-powerful god could have inspired a book that could only be interpreted in one way. Anyone who denies the contradictions and out and out atrocities god permitted/ordered is suffering from cognitive dissonance or terminal indoctrination.
He just says what he believes. He doesn’t investigate the subjects.
What is Sam Harris’ education and background to take such definitive positions on religion and the afterlife?
You could just Google "Sam Harris", but does it matter how educated he is? He's very well known. You don't need anything to not believe in religion. When I was about 13, I thought Bible stories were hard to believe. So I decided since I was so young, it was okay for me to doubt. I remember thinking as I got older and I would just change my mind. What I had done was the opposite of Faith. Armed with my new freedom to Doubt, though I didn't realize it, I would never be able to believe any religion... not Hinduism, Islam, Christianity... In ths same way I never believed in Superman no matter what the books said, I never believed that any holy book. It wasn't about Evolution, wanting to sin or Atheism, if my dating is right it was 1958 and I was 13. I had never heard the word 'atheist' or Evolution. I was like a Kid from Mars landing on Earth and took Holy Books for what they were, old story books. I didn't give one more credence than another. I didn't worship stories in old books written by people I don't know and can never know. I'm 78 now, I've been close to death a couple of times, I was not afraid, I don't worry and have never worried about sin. I treat people like I would like to be treated. Married my high school sweetheart in 1964. It doesn't take education, it takes the desire to believe things only if there is clear evidence that they are true.
He has a B.A. In Philosophy from Standford and a Ph.D. in Neuroscience on the University of California. But why ask in the comments if you can just google it in literally 2 seconds? Or do you just want to be provocative?
@@Kangrej98 The point is that he has no theological background. He is discussing the realm of theology. Many scientists feel that because they are intelligent and have an understanding of the world around us, they therefore have an understanding of God. Science one day will come to an understanding of all of physics and biology and chemistry - yet they will be no closer to either supporting or refuting the existence of God.
@@bobusa1960 You say that as if it is a real scientific field of study lol. How many religions are there in the world and all of them claim to have the perfect word from the creator of the universe. Not to mention they all contradict themselves (I read the bible and even the quaran). The bible even contradicts itself. I assume you are christian and you think that all the muslim and hindu theologians are wrong and yours are right. Theology doesn't contribute anything to society and does not evolve unlike physics, medicine, chemistry and all the other fields. Those fields have new discoveries all the time and our understanding of the cosmos evolves with them. Just look at physics from 200 years ago and now and then look at theology from 200 years ago and now. All the holy books in the world were written by bronze age peasants who didn't even know the earth orbited the sun or that disease are spread by germs. They knew nothing about the universe and somehow you and many others are claiming they got everything right and they know for 100% that the universe was created by a god that even listens to prayers and cares about sin. In the far future if humanity survives all of these religions will be taught at mythology class. I don't study Theology but Astrophysics so I know you won't take my word for granted but if you want to hear it from someone that has a degree from theology you can search up for Alex O'Connor's youtube channel.
@@bobusa1960do you have a background in the Greek Gods of Mount Olympus? If not, how could you--or anyone for that matter--deny Their existence?
Why don’t we let Sam talk
Unless we consider that perhaps humanity is not the smartest and the most technologically advanced in this space but someone or something else is and our consciousness has universal value. A artificial intelligence run galaxy or universe would, as an example, seek out biological consciousness and by merging with a managed consciousness it is able to ‘complete itself’ . We simply do not know.
That's because we're not fully conscious.
@@carolmartin8781 and why would that be ?
I've been hoping for an afterlife but just recently decided that a second life seems unlikely. When we sleep we lose consciousness. An event that would take you from dead to a second life seems incredibly unlikely. Yes in my head a deity would be necessary for it. I suppose that creatures that are god like are possible. but my reasoning is flawed in that I needed a deity therefore it should exist. Which is make believe.
Every thought that man has had has come into existence. We create our lives and our afterlife.
I want to go to heaven only if it’s unlimited Oreo cookies and cold milk for eternity without health or weight issues
Swimming pools of chocolate to float around on all day.
Sounds reasonable to me and probably easy for God to do. Do you think that all we do is kneel down and praise God all day, every day for eternity? I would think heaven is a little more exciting than that.
@@carolmartin8781 welp, perhaps there’s eternal golfing on the most beautiful course imaginable for golf fans and unlimited bingo in a stunningly decorated town hall for bingo fans for example . And maybe you only have to kneel and pray and chant or whatever else periodically . Maybe yaweh lightened up a little bit and decided that kneeling and praying non stop for eternity wasn’t going over to well because too many complaints from too many dead people in heaven . So maybe he backed off a little over time . Heaven is supposed to be a fun and exciting place not a boring, mind numbing useless daily routine, I heard .
Anyway …. I’m snackish right now so I’m going to get some Oreos and cold milk . Have a good one !
Humans are hard wired for religion because it answers life's most profound questions. There are maybe 500 active religions in the world with maybe 600 deities. Each religion is an tight societal meme unto itself and resilient to external change. If you can intellectually rise above this morass and observe religions from a psychological, neurological and tribalism viewpoint, you can see the similarities. Of course, only one's own religion is correct. The 499 others are wrong...lol.
If what you said about compilation videos is true, Daily Dose of Internet, Fail Army and Ozzyman Reviews are in big trouble.
So this is not about cyberpunk, damn
“mountains of life destroying nonsense in these books “
10:54 As Jesus demonstrated.
Just don’t stop spreading science humanism skepticism
There isn't one. The end.
er, what are souls made of, cos if my soul is made of the same eternal stuff jesus soul is made of, what's so special about jesus? what is the difference between me and god?
Oh please, there is Jesus soul-a-terial and human soul-a-terial. Jesus has all his spiritual quantals aligned to the right and all your spiritual quantals are aligned to the left. And when you utter incantations with just the right inflection, it slowly realigns your spiritual quantals to match Jesus' spiritual quantals.
Have you seen the afterlife? No, oh errrr. Have you any reason or proof of anything? No, oh. Well why don't you leave it to someone that has..?
Have pity on the scoffers and all who are still strangers to spiritual life. Do not be angry with them when they become sarcastic; for they are only to be pitied. They stand before the great Work of Creation, which offers us so much, like drunkards, like sick people. Like blind men who grope their way through life on earth without seeing all the splendor around them!
These poor people are confused, they are asleep; for how can anyone still affirm, for instance, that only what he can see exists? That where his eyes perceive nothing, there is no life? That with his physical death he himself also ceases to exist, all because in his blindness he could not, up till now, convince himself to the contrary through his eyes? Does he not already know from many things how very limited is the capacity of the eye? Does he not yet know that it is related to the capacity of his brain, which is bound to time and space? That because of this he cannot recognize with his eyes anything rising above time and space? Has this logical, intellectual reasoning not yet become clear to any of these scoffers?
Spiritual life, let us also call it the beyond, is after all merely something that stands completely above the earthly division of time and space, and therefore requires a similar nature in order to be recognized.
Yet our eyes do not even see all that can be classified within time and space. Think of a drop of water, which appears immaculately pure to every eye, but which on examination under the microscope is shown to contain millions of living organisms mercilessly fighting and destroying each other. Are there not sometimes bacteria in both water and air that have the power to destroy human bodies, and that are imperceptible to the human eye? But they become visible by means of powerful instruments. Who then will still dare to maintain that there is nothing new and as yet unknown to be seen when the power of these instruments is further increased? Increase their power a thousand fold, a million fold, and there will be no end to what may be seen, but ever new worlds which previously you could neither see nor feel, yet which nevertheless existed, will unfold before you.
Logical thinking also leads to the same conclusions about everything the sciences have hitherto been able to collect. There is a prospect of continuous progress and development, but never of an end.
What, then, is the beyond? The word confuses many. The beyond is simply all that cannot be perceived by earthly means. And earthly means are the eyes, the brain and all other parts of the body, also the instruments that help them to do their work still more accurately and precisely, and to extend its scope. Therefore one could say: the beyond embraces all that is beyond the perceptive capacity of our physical eyes. But there is no division between this world and the beyond! Nor any gulf! All is united, as is the whole of Creation. One power streams through this world and the beyond, everything lives and works from this one life stream, and is thus quite inseparably linked.
For this reason change your attitude. There is no such thing as this world and the beyond, but only one united existence! The idea of a division has been invented solely by man, because he is unable to see everything, and imagines himself to be the center and focal point of the surroundings visible to him. Yet his sphere of action is greater. With the erroneous idea of a division, however, he forcibly limits himself, hinders his progress, and allows his imagination to run riot and conjure up grotesque pictures. Is it surprising then, if as a consequence many only smile incredulously, while others adopt an unwholesome form of worship that becomes servile or degenerates into fanaticism? Who can then still be astonished if some people develop a nervous fear, even terror and consternation? Away with all this! Why these torments?
Break down this barrier which human error sought to erect, but which never existed! Your past wrong attitude also gives you a false foundation, on which you vainly endeavor continually to build up the true belief, that is, inner conviction. You consequently encounter points, obstacles, which must make you waver and doubt, or compel you to tear down the whole structure, perhaps abandoning everything out of despair or resentment. The loss is then yours alone, because this is not progress for you, but standstill or retrogression. The road which in any case you must follow one day will only be lengthened thereby.
- Grail Message by Abdrushin
I could not be bothered to read all of your post but it can be summarised by ‘there may me something if we can develop ways of detecting ‘ the same can be applied to ‘we may be a computer simulation on some powerful computer in the future’
Arrogant man created his immortality out of his refusal to accept that he is just another animal, in his hubris he had to exalt himself above other beasts.
Are you talking about God and Jesus (or just one.)?
@@IWillHaveThePastaThanks I’m referring to delusional men who thinks he’s above animals, as we are no better than other animals (for the most part worse) and man that thinks they’re going to live forever.
I am not a believer of Jesus nor the sky daddy that never shows up to instill justice on the oppressed and the innocent, in other words I am an atheist.
Is there Life after death?
When God created the human race. He had a big vision in mind. He placed of Himself within each of us -- something called our soul. And since God will always exist, so will we. Our bodies will expire, but our soul continues on forever.
We wonder about the life after death because of what God placed inside of us and because our soul is greater than this finite world. Some people try to ignore God's plan, but it's still there. The Bible sums up what God did and our limited view of it. "He has planted eternity in the human heart, but even so, people cannot see the whole scope of God's work from beginning to end." (Ecclesiastes 3:11).
Our belief in the afterlife, doesn't have to be based on a wish. Instead, the proof you're looking for is found in Jesus Christ. After Jesus Christ died on the cross He was buried and sealed inside a guarded tomb. Jesus' body remained there for three days. Then after the third day, Jesus Christ arose from the dead. Jesus came back to life, hundreds of people saw Him alive, and He demonstrated there really is life after death.
Not only that, Jesus told us what we would be doing after His death. When Jesus was unfairly sentenced to death, two others were sentenced with Him. (The two thieves) As they were hung on the cross, one of the thieves said, "Jesus, remember me when You enter into Your kingdom." (Luke 23:42)
Jesus answered him, "Today, thou shalt be with Me in Paradise." (Luke 23:43). Jesus died that day but we know He went to Paradise afterward.
You have a soul and it doesn't end with the death of your body. The resurrection of Jesus Christ not only provided evidence of the afterlife but also offered the opportunity to be with Him in Heaven for all eternity.
John 11:25,26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.
And whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Hope you're right
Because the Buybull tells you so? Broaden your horizons and read outside the Buybull. Study how the Buybull was compiled for one thing. Then consider how many denominations and sects there are just because your holy (book full of holes) is interpreted in so many different ways. This very fact is the reason for so much divisiveness and religious wars. One would think the all-powerful god could have inspired a book that could only be interpreted in one way. Anyone who denies the contradictions and out and out atrocities god permitted/ordered is suffering from cognitive dissonance or terminal indoctrination.
Ignorance is the mother of all religions!
Jesus loves you
Because the Buybull tells you so? Broaden your horizons and read outside the Buybull. Study how the Buybull was compiled for one thing. Then consider how many denominations and sects there are just because your holy (book full of holes) is interpreted in so many different ways. This very fact is the reason for so much divisiveness and religious wars. One would think the all-powerful god could have inspired a book that could only be interpreted in one way. Anyone who denies the contradictions and out and out atrocities god permitted/ordered is suffering from cognitive dissonance or terminal indoctrination.
Everytime an atheist voices an abstract immaterial thought, he is demonstrating the existence of his own immaterial mind. Everytime an atheist speaks he refutes atheism.
Can you define what you mean by "immaterial thought"?
@@cnault3244 The abstract immaterial concept of morality, which is unrelated to the physical make up of the brain. To understand and work with abstract immaterial concepts requires an immaterial mind.
If you were just a lump of meat walking around you wouldn't have free will, and there would be no point in having laws because there would be no way to make a choice to obey them or break them. But the fact that you can make choices shows that you are more than just a physical machine.
@@henryschmit3340 More meaningless babble.
"The abstract immaterial concept of morality, which is unrelated to the physical make up of the brain. "
Can you present an example of any sort of morality existing without a physical brain?
You said " To understand and work with abstract immaterial concepts requires an immaterial mind.".
Can you define what you mean by "immaterial mind"?
Can you present an example or evidence of an immaterial mind?
@@cnault3244 The brain is unrelated to abstract concepts like morality. The brain is not constructed from morality, it is flesh and blood. Flesh and blood is not morality.
"Can you define what you mean by immaterial mind?"
It is what you use to understand and work with immaterial abstract concepts, which have no relation to the physical world.
"Can you present an example of an immaterial mind?"
As I have already pointed out, your own immaterial mind is a good example.
@@henryschmit3340 "The brain is unrelated to abstract concepts like morality. "
Unrelated? Can you present an example of morality that is NOT the product of a brain?
""Can you define what you mean by immaterial mind?"
It is what you use to understand and work with immaterial abstract concepts, which have no relation to the physical world."
No. Your mind is contained within your brain and is a product of your brain. When you work with numbers ( numbers are an immaterial abstract concept) your mind remains within your brain and is a product of your brain.
Immaterial is defined as "not consisting of matter ".
It is true your mind does not consist of matter, but your mind is a product of matter ( your brain) and is contained within matter (your brain).
Calling your mind immaterial is being ambiguous and is similar to a theist equating faath that their god exists with an atheist's faith that their car will start.
The Bible says “the fool says there is no God.”
Sam seems to think that if you’re a believer then it’s impossible to be wise. Please do not listen to this man.
Go read your fiction book
@@Pp-wn2gn 🙏
It also has great advice about slavery
Knowledge is different than wisdom, and knowledge does you no good without wisdom. Wisdom comes from the Holy Spirit.
By this "logic" lots of people on Earth have no "holy spirit" / "soul". 😂
@@darth-imperius By choice.
Wisdom comes from experience and if you have the intelligence to learn from your mistakes.
Because the Buybull tells you so? Broaden your horizons and read outside the Buybull. Study how the Buybull was compiled for one thing. Then consider how many denominations and sects there are just because your holy (book full of holes) is interpreted in so many different ways. This very fact is the reason for so much divisiveness and religious wars. One would think the all-powerful god could have inspired a book that could only be interpreted in one way. Anyone who denies the contradictions and out and out atrocities god permitted/ordered is suffering from cognitive dissonance or terminal indoctrination.
Afterlife should have its opposite: Prelife and what is that?
Let's call 'Prelife' a 'Singularity' as Quantum Life would represent. After all, that's real 'Science' talking about the PreUniverse, aye?
Life is a Big Bang waiting as that PreUniverse 'Singularity' is hypothesized as being (let's not get into being quite yet, okay?)
All these Mental giants failed Epistemology 101 and cannot resist discussing the *U N K N O W A B L E !* as if they know...sigh
Sam claims that I don't know what happens after death. I do know what happens after death. he is dishonest