I use the very same sprayer in a tiny workshop. I mounted a rail to the ceiling in a booth kind of shape and I bought some extra long shower curtains which just hang on S hooks. Works a treat....the curtains can be washed if you so wish and almost zero overspray to anywhere else in the workshop. 2 mins set up and take down and doesn’t take up any storage space at all. Still looking at some kind of extraction but up to now haven’t had any desperate need for it! A light spray of WD40 or a tiny bit of Vaseline on the sprayer body before starting and a quick wipe after stops the overspray sticking and keeps it looking as good as new 👍🏻
Thanks for the video, I've got the Graco Ultra, used it once and went back to the roller. You've inspired me to try again now I have the smaller tip. Look forward the the next 'episode"!!
I went all spray finish a couple of years ago. The overspray eventually made me go back to rolling though, there is too much waste created, eg, plastic coverings and masking tape. And then I forgot to clean the gun out one day, so that was the end of that.
Overspray is part of it. The best thing is to have a fan blowing out but still all that overspray around. I set up a booth in my basement. Spraying gives an awesome finish!
I got the same sprayer a couple of weeks ago to paint kitchen doors that I have made for home, it makes an horrendous mess, but near the end of the job I made a spray booth out of 2x1 batten and corex, closed on 3 sides and the roof. I fitted an old kitchen extractor fan into the back and hung the doors on a rack that enabled me to spray 4 doors at once. This worked really well. Shame it was too late for my workshop that was already completely covered with overspray!
In my experience the three factors for spraying are finish, time and amount of paint. You can't beat the finish of spraying, but sometimes you don't need that level of finish. Time taken is a balance of mask up, spray time and clean up, sometimes the mask up and clean up time is so great and the spray time so short a paint brush or roller is so much quicker provided the finish is not and issue. The amount of paint is always greater with spraying, but finish and time considerations can outweigh this factor. Can't wait to see how you deal with the air quality whilst spraying in your shop. Another great video, thanks Peter.
Hi Peter. If you go to vehicle spray centre supplies you can get a roll of very thin sheeting that comes on a roll that is static based. This sheet rolls out and unfolds to a huge size and cuts off the roll. It clings to all surfaces without taping its marked which side is out. We use it in vehicle spraying to prevent overspray and protect workshop surfaces. It's then disposable and quite cheap. Prevents lots of clearing up afterwards. Ours is a brand called Top Gun. Hope this helps.
Thanks Richard. Again, this was my first day spraying with the Graco, I’ve put a lot of paint through it in he last 4 months - plenty more to come in this series.
Peter, as you sweep across with your arm try and keep your wrist perpendicular to the surface that you are spraying. This helps to keep the spray tip at a constant distance from the surface and will give a more even coat. If you tend to turn your wrist at the start or finish of the pass then you will end up with less coverage at the ends. Also if the total length of the pass is longer than what is natural for your arm to move through, you should be moving your feet. Hopefully helpful tips. When we painted our house we did it with an airless sprayer and the finish looks fantastic. All walls and ceilings done in two days. Then another couple of days for doors/windows etc done with roller/brushes. Having said that we painted the house before me moved in so it was completely empty. I would never have attempted this with a furnished house.
From what I've seen in other videos, like the Idaho Painter, it's the tips that are the key to the problem. A different size one may make a sizeable difference. Graco have some useful information available.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. Also the comments are very interesting to read. I learned(?) a lot the last half hour but I'm afraid that 99% I'll not remember tomorrow. This way of painting is very fast. By the time I put one time my brush in a pot of paint you spray four panels. I cannot image this kind of spraying in my workshop. I'm looking forward to the next videos about (your) spraying (learning curve).
Good video Peter. spraying is definitely the way forward. I bought 2 electric sprayers, one cheap, one much more expensive but I found a £15 sprayer for my compressor gave the most control, adjustment and best finish. In the workshop you need a fume extractor. This could be homemade cheaply or an expensive one bought. loads of videos on RUclips for to build a paint spray extractor. This will take care of the fine dust settling on everything and be better for your health.
Graco recently came out with low pressure tips. I think they are designed to produce less overspray because they require less pressure to work. I could be wrong though. I haven't tried the Graco sprayer before but I am quite interested in getting one to test out on furniture projects and whatnot.
Yep, the FFLP (fine finish low pressure) tips were developed with this Ultra series of handhelds in mind, as they (not unreasonably) don’t reach the mega-pressures of the big mains powered units. FFLP tips were used throughout this series, pretty much the 310 for everything 👍👍
My trick is to tape a home furnace HVAC filter to a box fan and have it pointed away from me. You'll be surprised at how much that sucks up and sticks on the filter rather than going all over.
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Interesting. I used a Wagner (not cordless) unit for doing my hall, stairs and landing (5 bed detached) - and had never spray painted before. It took me a full day to mask up ‘everything’, which was tricky, about 3 hours to spray. I was very pleased with the result but I would not do it again. I just felt under so much pressure and once spraying worked without pauses. At least with conventional techniques there are natural breakpoints- I felt I was on a wild 3 hour roller coaster ride.😂
Interesting video Peter. I have an electric high volume low pressure spray gun as well as a gun for my compressor. I've had great results in the past with both, but like you hate the clean up. The time you save when painting is used up cleaning up and of course cleaning the equipment. I plan on using the Hi volume sprayer for all my garden woodwork this summer, fence panels and trellis, decking and some wooden furniture. Doubt I'll be doing any more inside the shop though.
Cheers Graham. Yes, I've had an HVLP for ages, but hated the cleanup - small shop, no water or waste. I think the last time I used it was for soaking some wallpaper for stripping - and I haven't done that for a loooong time, lol! 👍
Hello Peter, just been listening to the measuring up podcasts and really enjoying it! I have a question about the Graco, I am self-building a new 4bed house so a fair bit of painting to do. I wondered if you think the Graco would be up to job? I am thinking of using Tikkurila wall paint. Thanks Edward
Hi Edward. Short answer is that I don’t really know. I’ve done whole rooms with my Graco without any problems at all, but I’ve never tackled a whole house. I’d say as a one-off it will probably be fine - if you were a professional painter looking to paint whole houses all year round then you’d need to be looking for something altogether more industrial, with a separate paint hopper or one that can hook directly into a tub of paint. With a Graco handheld you’ll be refilling the pot fairly regularly, as it’s only 1 litre. Never used Tikkurila wall paint, but I’ve been very happy with their Helmi furniture paints. 👍👍
Im a pro painter. Get a graco 390 or similar, you will be much better served with that. I have both, the handheld is great but its really only designed for small jobs that take less than a gal of paint. Refilling often gets tiresome.
Peter what kind of paint are you using? If you are gong to continue spraying rather than rolling then I highly recommend Sayerlack Water Based Laquers. Different animal altogether than the eggshell I've seen you use before. Better finish, million times more durable, chemically resistant and no yellowing. I buy mine through Movac, great company with great support. Trust me way better than Morrels.
Now I'm mostly using Tikkurila Helmi, with some Benjamin Moore Advanced as well. In this video I was using my regular water-based primer. Hadn't heard of Sayerlack, I'll take a look, thanks! 👍
Peter, once again the featured item/technique in your video is very well timed for me. I recently picked up a cheaper, perhaps hobby grade corded airless sprayer to try and get a more consistent finish on a piece of furniture I'm making for my wife. I was skeptical as the wood working supply company I purchased it through markets it as being versatile enough for spraying paint, polyurethane, thin wood stains all at a $60 to $70 USD price point. Having used it I came to similar conclusions as you. Once you adjust to cut down on overspray you can get a great surface finish and quick dry time with primers/undercoats. With a little practice I have been able to get much better looking results on topcoats as well. With all that said this is the kind of tool that is probably best left at the shop, with perhaps an investment in ventilation being made.At this time I would never take my sprayer to a client's home as I have encountered the same "paint dust" effect that you did. With decent ventilation in a shop this type of sprayer seems perfect for priming parts of a project to be finished on site or completely painting finished pieces/prefabricated parts that do not need to be or cannot be finished on site.
Thanks Lucas. I'm very impressed if that's an airless sprayer for that kind of money; usually around that price-point they're a solenoid-type sprayer, fine for sheds, fences and decking. Great that you're getting the results from it though. 👍
Thanks for the reply Peter. I realized that I most likely incorrectly stated the type of sprayer I was referring to. I have this HVLP paint sprayer seen in this link below. It seems to be configured a little differently than what I've seen from Solenoid type sprayers so I have assumed that it operates differently. www.rockler.com/homeright-finish-max-fine-finish-hvlp-sprayer
A little / lot off topic, but Ill ask anyway. I have made a number of cabinet doors from 18mm MDF. The edge finish cut and where I have routed the edge profile is very rough. Many coats of water based primer and the finish is average. Im assuming this is down to the standard MDF board I have purchased. I note you use MRMDF, is this more suitable for routing. Great channel by the way.
Yes, MR MDF is a much better board for this kind of application - and a much better board generally for not much more money tbh; it has a harder core, so you don't get the kind of 'fluffiness' on the machined edges that you get with regular MDF. Recommended 👍
I haven't done any spraying for a while, however when I did I fashioned a spray booth out of an old tent. Obviously size of shop determines size of tent, or could try it in a garden. It kept dust out and overspray in. Eh it worked for me.
Peter Millard 😄 it wouldn't go back in its carry bag, but do they ever anyway? Lol. I did get a few jobs out of it and will try it again if or when I next spray.
I own and use (occasionally) a Titan High pressure airless spray gun, the type where the inlet pipe sits in a 20 litre tin of paint and uses a 3000psi pressure to push the paint out. I also use three different types of air operated spray guns. The standard spray gun where the pot is attached to the spray gun itself, the spray gun with a 2 litre "remote" pot, this has a 2m paint hose to the spray gun and my FAVOURITE, a small 250 ml touch up spray gun. Yes, it takes practice, yes there is overspray but the finish is great (as you mentioned) and of course you use less paint. Less paint because the paint is applied in a thinner coat than with a roller or brush application. I have never been a fan of the "electric" spray guns, though I am sure that the Graco gun (you have) exceeds the performance of the "wagner" and similar brands. BZZZZZ, BZZZZZ, bzzzzz, bzz, bzz, bz, pft! The tip size and the pressure can have a dramatic affect on the amount of overspray. I'd recommend you check out the "spray" videos on you tube and practice with various settings. I think there is more control over the output when using an air driven spray gun, but I am not familiar with that Graco gun so I don't really know what adjustments you have. A spray booth is the way to go, but that is difficult for most people. I am fortunate that I can have an airflow through my garage where I do any spray painting (move the cars FIRST :-) ) then the overspray that is effectively "dust" just blows away. Probably not the best way, but reasonably clean and not too much damage to the atmosphere as I don't spray that often. The best use I have for a spray gun is to be able to spray the welded tubular frames I make for benches and stands etc. I also do spray cabinets, but as mentioned before, mostly by using the 250ml touchup gun. If you have a compressor, I'd recommend you try the touchup gun approach. Of course, with air driven spray guns you do need to thin the paint. The type of paint and the "thinness" can also affect the amount of overspray. Thanks for the video and best wishes for your future spraying endeavours :-)
Thanks. Appreciate the advice. This video is from day one in a four-month long story - there’s plenty more to come. In part two of the series I go into my reasons for choosing the Graco handheld over other systems - it was purchased for one specific job, so my reasons won’t be everyone’s of course - and this video series is really a long-term test of the Graco handheld by a relative novice user, as I thought it would be interesting for others to see the mistakes I make along the way, as much as the finish that’s achievable. 😆👍👍
The only spraying I have done is my fence outside. Over spray is certainly an issue there so I hate to think of what you have to deal with. Is that acrylic paint? Another interesting video.
Hi Peter... Another great video! I assume you had to thin your paint? What ratio of paint to thinner did you use? And I assume your paints are water based? Thanks Jason
Thanks Jason! No, the beauty of airless is that there’s generally no thinning needed - everything I’ve sprayed has been straight from the can. And yes, all water-based, I haven’t used solvent finishes in over a decade. 👍
hi Peter My video clip is noted as 3 days ago?, good luck with the spraying, I enjoy the videos very much even though I am out contracting and making furniture myself in between hospital ops ,I'd rather do the cutting than being cut Ian
Thanks Ian. Yes, the video was posted on Tuesday, but this is part one of a multi-part series that's been four months in the making - I do explain this in my "piece to camera" in the first minute of the video; this is day one, the sprayer happened to arrive on the day when I needed to paint something and these were my first attempts. It gets better 😆Part 2 out next Tuesday. Thanks again for the link to spray direct, I spoke with them before making the purchase, even if I did opt to buy elsewhere. 👍
I think there's no easy way to spray - airless is quick but you have to move fast, normal spray guns have a lot overspray and HVLP you usually have to thin a lot to get the paint to atomise. I'm experimenting with a Titan Focus 500 at the moment to see if it has the HVLP advantages without having to thin the paint. I'm keen to see the rest of this series. Cheers
You're not doing anything wrong, it's just how those electric airless sprayers work. The spray is much more controllable with a compressed air spray gun. You might want to use a couple of low RPM fans with filter sheets on them to capture the paint mist.
BTW, I noticed (in this video) you did not create enough overlap between each pass of the gun. Your finish can appear quite "banded" if you don't blend each pass with an overlap. Best regards Peter
I'm lucky i guess to have a separate room for spraying but yes over spray gets everywhere, If you can reduce the pressure that helps, Glad to see you got a dust mask, Maybe try different types of paints, Pre-cat is the easiest, that's a 1 part part, there's a 2 part AC but the most hard wearing that gives a top quality finish is a 2 part PU, all dry hard to be able to sand in 20-30mins, a fan speeds that up, I use Symphony Coatings who will colour match any colour/brand you like. ,
Thanks! I don’t have water/waste in the workshop, so cleanup is always a bit of an issue - that’s why I’ve stuck with water-based, so far. This series has been four months in the making, and this is part 1 from day 1 - there’s lots more to come 👍👍
Yep water based is easier to clean up prob, the ones I've mentioned are solvent based so you'd have to check the gun for compatibility too, the PU thinners melts some plastics, Did you try a gravity feed gun, they're easy to clean & control, Spraygunsdirect do some decent ANI ones that are a cheap £24, a good starting off point, but if you're going to buy a gun I'd recommend getting a Devilbiss FLG5 1.8mm nozzle, I've got half a dozen guns & the Devilbiss is the only one i really use now, you've got a compressor, mine is only 50ltr, I've got a few vids of spraying & a couple of cleaning the gun if they're any help. Only very occasionally, to cover screw or pin holes, do i spray small amounts in peoples houses because of the mess, www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/index.php/sprayguns-parts/gravity-sprayguns.html
Thanks! My compressor’s tiny - I barely use it tbh - which is why I went with the airless, cordless; seemed like a neat, self-contained solution that would do a bit of everything, with really easy switching between paints/finishes. A decent chunk of this job is doing some painting at a customers house, so I needed something flexible, compact and portable 👍
Fair enough, a lot of joiners I've spoke to use a similar set-up to yours, I guess I'm a little old school n have been spraying a long time, I like to try new things but in this case because it's work I stick to what you know sort of thing 😉
Hi Stuart - not as far as I know, no. But worth checking with Graco, as I was only really interested in spraying water-based finishes, I didn’t do much research myself 👍👍
cordless tools are really greats.... but its sooooooo expensive .... and you need to make sure is fully charged ...yes its my dream to have all kind of cordless tools...
I'm sure you figured this out already Peter as this video is from day one. But in this particular video you are spraying with the tip / movement in the wrong direction. The tip guard is angled in line with the arc of the fan so you always move perpendicular to the guard direction. So in this video you have the tip guard horizontal so the spray pattern is at its widest on the horizontal plane. So the movement should be vertical. I think one of the main issues with overspray in this situation is that you are spraying the individual pieces which means a lot of edges. The paint has the go somewhere when you spraying the edge and only half of it is hitting the piece. I always build my pieces bare and then spray them once built. Alot less outside edges and alot less overspray. The other option is to catch that paint at the edges before it can go somewhere you dont want it too. Get a spray shield. There are plenty of Aluminium ones around, I have one and it does the job well, but I wish I had got the cardboard holders where you can just swap out the cardboard easily. The Aluminium ones get alot of build up which eventually lead to drips or having to scrape it off. Card board one looks like this www.amazon.co.uk/750-Kraft-Paint-Shield-Holder/dp/B0065BCGCI]
Thanks. If you watch the video again you can see that the spray pattern is definitely vertical; I may be new to the Graco, but not totally new to spraying! 👍
Could you spray with a spray gun and air compressor from Lidl? I have these already but haven't tried yet, just cars. Haven't seen anyone spray with anything other than the electric gun
Never tried it. You need very height throughout (cfm) for spraying with a compressor. I think Keith Brown @ragnbonebrown has one videos on compressor spraying. 👍👍
Hello Peter, thanks for the video and first impressions. I have a cheapie Lidl Parkside mains sprayer which I use very occasionally but as I have Dewalt batteries I was curious to see what the Graco costs. Your amazon and Festool links didn’t work so I searched Amazon to find the Graco on for an eye watering £1100 ! Google search revealed them available for about £600 (or £500 on eBay), but at this price I am sticking to my Lidl Parkside. I’ve sprayed fence panels which didn’t overspray that much but not MDF panels - be interesting to see the comparison and whether a more expensive sprayer is really worth it?
Thanks. This is an old set of videos now, and I abandoned the Graco after having too many pump issues. Shame, as it had a lot of promise, but ultimately wasn’t reliable enough. I paid about £600 new for the UltraMax, and they’re still around that price now from eg spraydirect or brewers. I don’t spray any more, so I’ve no experience of current machines, I’m sorry. HTH Peter
Thanks @@10MinuteWorkshop, so the Google price is about right then. That's a lot of money to spend on a tool that you subsequently abandon due to issues with it. I have some large MDF panels to paint (been watching other videos of yours for tips) and was going to roller them but maybe I'll try spraying with the Parkside and see what the results are. Thanks for the quick response
Yes, but the Graco absolutely did the job that it was bought to do. Longer-term though, it failed spectacularly - most recently when I lent it to a pal, which really left him in a tight spot. If I ever get it back, I’ll pull it apart and see if I can find out what’s going on. 👍
1. Aren't there health and safety issues, particularly if you use solvents. I thought you're required to have an extraction system. Your mask looks a bit flimsy. 2. As an idea for a prog, might be an idea to match it up with a pressured system. Prices for kit, since the Graco is so expensive, are almost equivalent.
This is quite an old series, and the nozzle that came with the machine was faulty - I didn't discover this until after the job was complete because I was new to the system. I pretty much standardised on a 310 tip for everything. Airless sprayers have tips, not nozzles, btw. 👍
Fantastic video Peter. I've not used a sprayer myself, but the gentleman that painted my home had the job done in just one day. How in the world did you hurt your head now? It's great that you use your head in your Workshop, but that doesn't mean you have to pound nails with it... LOL! Many blessings!
Oh my goodness! LOL! I'm thinking you poor guy!... I remember when your head was hurt... You already knew we were going to ask anyway so you explained... I'm thinking your healed and then you got smacked again! You're too funny!
Is that a brand Alfred? Never heard of it, and a google just throws up dust control systems for crops, so any info you could share would be appreciated. 👍
Great to be able to see what the overspray is really like in a small space, hopefully it reduces :). I've always been tempted by one those Graco sprayers so it would be good to see how long term usage is with one and its reliability as they are not the easier to find in the UK.
I can only tell you my experience with my own Graco sprayer but no you don't have to thin. Even trade paints which are much thicker than standard latex. It's one reason I switched from HVLP where I always had to thin.
Hi Peter, it seems, sometimes it's helfpul to read the manual . ;) I got a little electric BOSCH sprayer for about 90 €. Inserted was a little viscosity measurement. My first attempt was like yours, the shop was a mess. After measuring the viscosity, I thinned the paint with nearly 10%, reduced paint insert and presure and now I'm happy with the results and my shop. give it a try! Regards
Thanks Christian. No thinning required with airless sprayers - that’s all part of the appeal! And the manuals for this are about an inch thick - I’d still be reading it if I’d started 4 months ago lol, 👍
Peter..... have u thought of going HVLP or even LVLP which would greatly reduce overspray... I bought a hvlp compressor-driven gun recently for around €20 if I remember correctly. I haven't had the time to test it out yet unfortunately Pete.... but they are supposed to be paint-frugal... Also a makeshift booth in a corner with some 6mil poly might work ?? Or even just lay the poly out around the bench area in such a way as to catch the worst of the overspray 😞
Thanks Peter. This vid is day 1 in a 4-month long project, vids coming later in the series explain my reasons for going with airless, my previous experiences with hvlp (spoiler - overspray’s just as bad in a small space) and compressor- based sprayers. Some of the pieces I’m spraying are 3metres long so a ‘corner booth’ won’t cut it, unfortunately! 👍👍
The Graco Ultra series use the DeWalt XR battery platform; DeWalt gets their batteries and chargers in the hands of potentially new users, Graco gets a solid and proven platform, and we the consumers get to consider bare DeWalt tools in future. Win, win, win 👍
When i seen the paint you scraped up i started to laugh sorry Peter ,prep work is the time consumer ,as you get better the less you really need to tape off ,looks great for the first time ,get a better gun HVLP, that one looks good for a hobbyist painting yard furniture ,box fan with furnace filter even tapped to it will grab most the over spray
Thanks Syd. No, the Graco’s definitely aimed at painting pros. No such thing as a ‘furnace fan’ this side of the world, sadly. I have a few fans but hadn’t got them together by the time his job started. More to come in this series 👍
Peter, Love your videos and I understand that you need expensive tools for your business. However, as an amateur, Festool and Graco paint sprayers are just out of my price bracket. Can you get back to the cheap tool/Festool videos as the Titans and other cheap makes are more than likely the ones I could only ever justify. Not to say though that I don't drool over the Domino cutter, but instead have to make do with a biscuit jointer in the sale from B&Q.
Richard, I do take your point, but if you look through the other comments there’s a lot of interest in these sprayers. I haven’t abandoned the Festool/cheap tool idea, just been kinda busy with that work stuff 👍
Thanks Ian. The guys at Festool Talk Group, who I bought my Graco from, were very helpful. Also, and not to labour the point, but this is a day 1 video from 4 months ago - I’ve ironed out a few things since then 😬👍👍
It’s a decent chunk of money, but actually pretty reasonable for an airless sprayer - and it paid for itself on this one job. If I was buying again I’d go for the Ultra instead of the UltraMax and save £100.
Well, obviously - that’s what this series is about; someone who isn’t a professional painter taking on spraying for the first time, and following the journey from novice to mildly competent over the course of 5 months. As you can see from the title, this is Part 1; there’s 8 parts - it gets better 👍
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Great city landscape from the scraping up at the start of the video 😀
😂I should have framed it! 👍
I use the very same sprayer in a tiny workshop. I mounted a rail to the ceiling in a booth kind of shape and I bought some extra long shower curtains which just hang on S hooks. Works a treat....the curtains can be washed if you so wish and almost zero overspray to anywhere else in the workshop. 2 mins set up and take down and doesn’t take up any storage space at all. Still looking at some kind of extraction but up to now haven’t had any desperate need for it!
A light spray of WD40 or a tiny bit of Vaseline on the sprayer body before starting and a quick wipe after stops the overspray sticking and keeps it looking as good as new 👍🏻
Great idea with the WD40! Wish I’d thought of that, lol😂👍👍
Thanks for the video, I've got the Graco Ultra, used it once and went back to the roller. You've inspired me to try again now I have the smaller tip. Look forward the the next 'episode"!!
Pleasure. Plenty more to come on this one. 👍
I went all spray finish a couple of years ago. The overspray eventually made me go back to rolling though, there is too much waste created, eg, plastic coverings and masking tape. And then I forgot to clean the gun out one day, so that was the end of that.
Overspray is part of it. The best thing is to have a fan blowing out but still all that overspray around. I set up a booth in my basement. Spraying gives an awesome finish!
Thanks! Yes, it does. 👍
I got the same sprayer a couple of weeks ago to paint kitchen doors that I have made for home, it makes an horrendous mess, but near the end of the job I made a spray booth out of 2x1 batten and corex, closed on 3 sides and the roof. I fitted an old kitchen extractor fan into the back and hung the doors on a rack that enabled me to spray 4 doors at once. This worked really well. Shame it was too late for my workshop that was already completely covered with overspray!
Yes, it’s the ‘misting’ overspray that gets to me. I have fans ready to go, just hasn’t got them together when I did this video. 👍
In my experience the three factors for spraying are finish, time and amount of paint. You can't beat the finish of spraying, but sometimes you don't need that level of finish. Time taken is a balance of mask up, spray time and clean up, sometimes the mask up and clean up time is so great and the spray time so short a paint brush or roller is so much quicker provided the finish is not and issue. The amount of paint is always greater with spraying, but finish and time considerations can outweigh this factor. Can't wait to see how you deal with the air quality whilst spraying in your shop. Another great video, thanks Peter.
Yep, it’s been a voyage of discovery, this one 👍
Hi Peter. If you go to vehicle spray centre supplies you can get a roll of very thin sheeting that comes on a roll that is static based. This sheet rolls out and unfolds to a huge size and cuts off the roll. It clings to all surfaces without taping its marked which side is out. We use it in vehicle spraying to prevent overspray and protect workshop surfaces. It's then disposable and quite cheap. Prevents lots of clearing up afterwards. Ours is a brand called Top Gun. Hope this helps.
Richard Denton Toolstation and possibly Screwfix have this masking roll as well.
Thanks Richard. Again, this was my first day spraying with the Graco, I’ve put a lot of paint through it in he last 4 months - plenty more to come in this series.
I have the same gun. After a quick learning curve. The finish is amazing! I primarily use it around the home. And yes, I cover everything!!
Yes, it’s excellent! 👍
Peter, as you sweep across with your arm try and keep your wrist perpendicular to the surface that you are spraying. This helps to keep the spray tip at a constant distance from the surface and will give a more even coat. If you tend to turn your wrist at the start or finish of the pass then you will end up with less coverage at the ends. Also if the total length of the pass is longer than what is natural for your arm to move through, you should be moving your feet. Hopefully helpful tips.
When we painted our house we did it with an airless sprayer and the finish looks fantastic. All walls and ceilings done in two days. Then another couple of days for doors/windows etc done with roller/brushes. Having said that we painted the house before me moved in so it was completely empty. I would never have attempted this with a furnished house.
Thanks Andrew. I’ll just re-iterate, this was the first day with the Graco; there’s four months-worth of video to come... 😬👍
From what I've seen in other videos, like the Idaho Painter, it's the tips that are the key to the problem. A different size one may make a sizeable difference. Graco have some useful information available.
Thanks David. As I say in the video, I was using the larger tip initially, in error. 👍
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. Also the comments are very interesting to read. I learned(?) a lot the last
half hour but I'm afraid that 99% I'll not remember tomorrow.
This way of painting is very fast. By the time I put one time my brush in a pot of paint you spray four panels.
I cannot image this kind of spraying in my workshop. I'm looking forward to the next videos about (your) spraying
(learning curve).
Thanks Hans! Yes, more to come 👍👍
Good video Peter. spraying is definitely the way forward. I bought 2 electric sprayers, one cheap, one much more expensive but I found a £15 sprayer for my compressor gave the most control, adjustment and best finish. In the workshop you need a fume extractor. This could be homemade cheaply or an expensive one bought. loads of videos on RUclips for to build a paint spray extractor. This will take care of the fine dust settling on everything and be better for your health.
Thanks! This has been a 4-month long project, so plenty more to come 👍
Graco recently came out with low pressure tips. I think they are designed to produce less overspray because they require less pressure to work. I could be wrong though. I haven't tried the Graco sprayer before but I am quite interested in getting one to test out on furniture projects and whatnot.
Yep, the FFLP (fine finish low pressure) tips were developed with this Ultra series of handhelds in mind, as they (not unreasonably) don’t reach the mega-pressures of the big mains powered units. FFLP tips were used throughout this series, pretty much the 310 for everything 👍👍
My trick is to tape a home furnace HVAC filter to a box fan and have it pointed away from me. You'll be surprised at how much that sucks up and sticks on the filter rather than going all over.
Hi there Peter, I have been around your channel a while, subbed at around 2000 subscribers if I remember correctly. Just saw, you have surpassed 20 000 ..... a great big congrats to you, keep up the great work and interesting projects !!
RegardsFrancoisNew Zealand
Thanks Francois! Yeah, it’s been quite a journey - and it’s not over yet 😆👍
love your works....i got tens of woodworker channels but the only one that inspired me is your channel...very very limited space....
Thank you! 👍
Interesting. I used a Wagner (not cordless) unit for doing my hall, stairs and landing (5 bed detached) - and had never spray painted before. It took me a full day to mask up ‘everything’, which was tricky, about 3 hours to spray. I was very pleased with the result but I would not do it again. I just felt under so much pressure and once spraying worked without pauses. At least with conventional techniques there are natural breakpoints- I felt I was on a wild 3 hour roller coaster ride.😂
Norman Boyes Poor guy! I think there were seven of them all together.
They arrived at 7:30 a.m. and did not leave until 6 p.m. That was with three coats on the outside of our home.
Tracy Keaton Hi Tracy, I am not really understanding your response- were you intending to reply to me?
Another interesting video Peter, thank you. Looking forward to your progress as I have the same machine but not used it as of yet!
Thanks Charles! It’s a great machine - and plenty more to come in this story 👍
how to buy this product where I can get and how much it price I am from nepal
Interesting video Peter. I have an electric high volume low pressure spray gun as well as a gun for my compressor. I've had great results in the past with both, but like you hate the clean up. The time you save when painting is used up cleaning up and of course cleaning the equipment. I plan on using the Hi volume sprayer for all my garden woodwork this summer, fence panels and trellis, decking and some wooden furniture. Doubt I'll be doing any more inside the shop though.
Cheers Graham. Yes, I've had an HVLP for ages, but hated the cleanup - small shop, no water or waste. I think the last time I used it was for soaking some wallpaper for stripping - and I haven't done that for a loooong time, lol! 👍
ive seen some one suggest using a cheap dome tent as a spray booth, it may help keep you shop clean.
Thanks! Nowhere near big enough, unfortunately... 🤔
i think it would be ok for small items, and allow you to keep dust off the paint or finish as it dries, i may try it for varnished projects outdoors
Hello Peter, just been listening to the measuring up podcasts and really enjoying it! I have a question about the Graco, I am self-building a new 4bed house so a fair bit of painting to do. I wondered if you think the Graco would be up to job? I am thinking of using Tikkurila wall paint. Thanks Edward
Hi Edward. Short answer is that I don’t really know. I’ve done whole rooms with my Graco without any problems at all, but I’ve never tackled a whole house. I’d say as a one-off it will probably be fine - if you were a professional painter looking to paint whole houses all year round then you’d need to be looking for something altogether more industrial, with a separate paint hopper or one that can hook directly into a tub of paint. With a Graco handheld you’ll be refilling the pot fairly regularly, as it’s only 1 litre.
Never used Tikkurila wall paint, but I’ve been very happy with their Helmi furniture paints. 👍👍
Im a pro painter. Get a graco 390 or similar, you will be much better served with that.
I have both, the handheld is great but its really only designed for small jobs that take less than a gal of paint. Refilling often gets tiresome.
Peter what kind of paint are you using? If you are gong to continue spraying rather than rolling then I highly recommend Sayerlack Water Based Laquers. Different animal altogether than the eggshell I've seen you use before. Better finish, million times more durable, chemically resistant and no yellowing. I buy mine through Movac, great company with great support. Trust me way better than Morrels.
Now I'm mostly using Tikkurila Helmi, with some Benjamin Moore Advanced as well. In this video I was using my regular water-based primer. Hadn't heard of Sayerlack, I'll take a look, thanks! 👍
Peter, once again the featured item/technique in your video is very well timed for me. I recently picked up a cheaper, perhaps hobby grade corded airless sprayer to try and get a more consistent finish on a piece of furniture I'm making for my wife. I was skeptical as the wood working supply company I purchased it through markets it as being versatile enough for spraying paint, polyurethane, thin wood stains all at a $60 to $70 USD price point. Having used it I came to similar conclusions as you. Once you adjust to cut down on overspray you can get a great surface finish and quick dry time with primers/undercoats. With a little practice I have been able to get much better looking results on topcoats as well. With all that said this is the kind of tool that is probably best left at the shop, with perhaps an investment in ventilation being made.At this time I would never take my sprayer to a client's home as I have encountered the same "paint dust" effect that you did. With decent ventilation in a shop this type of sprayer seems perfect for priming parts of a project to be finished on site or completely painting finished pieces/prefabricated parts that do not need to be or cannot be finished on site.
Thanks Lucas. I'm very impressed if that's an airless sprayer for that kind of money; usually around that price-point they're a solenoid-type sprayer, fine for sheds, fences and decking. Great that you're getting the results from it though. 👍
Thanks for the reply Peter. I realized that I most likely incorrectly stated the type of sprayer I was referring to. I have this HVLP paint sprayer seen in this link below. It seems to be configured a little differently than what I've seen from Solenoid type sprayers so I have assumed that it operates differently.
www.rockler.com/homeright-finish-max-fine-finish-hvlp-sprayer
Ah, OK, it’s a hand-held hvlp - I haven’t used one, but I’ve seen them; I think Black & Decker do one similar over here. Nice! 👍
A little / lot off topic, but Ill ask anyway. I have made a number of cabinet doors from 18mm MDF. The edge finish cut and where I have routed the edge profile is very rough. Many coats of water based primer and the finish is average. Im assuming this is down to the standard MDF board I have purchased. I note you use MRMDF, is this more suitable for routing. Great channel by the way.
Yes, MR MDF is a much better board for this kind of application - and a much better board generally for not much more money tbh; it has a harder core, so you don't get the kind of 'fluffiness' on the machined edges that you get with regular MDF. Recommended 👍
Thank you Peter for your prompt reply.
I haven't done any spraying for a while, however when I did I fashioned a spray booth out of an old tent. Obviously size of shop determines size of tent, or could try it in a garden. It kept dust out and overspray in. Eh it worked for me.
Thanks! Did the tent fold afterwards? 😂👍
Peter Millard 😄 it wouldn't go back in its carry bag, but do they ever anyway? Lol. I did get a few jobs out of it and will try it again if or when I next spray.
I own and use (occasionally) a Titan High pressure airless spray gun, the type where the inlet pipe sits in a 20 litre tin of paint and uses a 3000psi pressure to push the paint out. I also use three different types of air operated spray guns. The standard spray gun where the pot is attached to the spray gun itself, the spray gun with a 2 litre "remote" pot, this has a 2m paint hose to the spray gun and my FAVOURITE, a small 250 ml touch up spray gun.
Yes, it takes practice, yes there is overspray but the finish is great (as you mentioned) and of course you use less paint. Less paint because the paint is applied in a thinner coat than with a roller or brush application.
I have never been a fan of the "electric" spray guns, though I am sure that the Graco gun (you have) exceeds the performance of the "wagner" and similar brands. BZZZZZ, BZZZZZ, bzzzzz, bzz, bzz, bz, pft!
The tip size and the pressure can have a dramatic affect on the amount of overspray. I'd recommend you check out the "spray" videos on you tube and practice with various settings. I think there is more control over the output when using an air driven spray gun, but I am not familiar with that Graco gun so I don't really know what adjustments you have.
A spray booth is the way to go, but that is difficult for most people. I am fortunate that I can have an airflow through my garage where I do any spray painting (move the cars FIRST :-) ) then the overspray that is effectively "dust" just blows away. Probably not the best way, but reasonably clean and not too much damage to the atmosphere as I don't spray that often.
The best use I have for a spray gun is to be able to spray the welded tubular frames I make for benches and stands etc. I also do spray cabinets, but as mentioned before, mostly by using the 250ml touchup gun. If you have a compressor, I'd recommend you try the touchup gun approach. Of course, with air driven spray guns you do need to thin the paint. The type of paint and the "thinness" can also affect the amount of overspray.
Thanks for the video and best wishes for your future spraying endeavours :-)
Thanks. Appreciate the advice. This video is from day one in a four-month long story - there’s plenty more to come. In part two of the series I go into my reasons for choosing the Graco handheld over other systems - it was purchased for one specific job, so my reasons won’t be everyone’s of course - and this video series is really a long-term test of the Graco handheld by a relative novice user, as I thought it would be interesting for others to see the mistakes I make along the way, as much as the finish that’s achievable. 😆👍👍
FFLP tip. Thanks for sharing
The only spraying I have done is my fence outside. Over spray is certainly an issue there so I hate to think of what you have to deal with. Is that acrylic paint? Another interesting video.
Thanks! Yes, I only use water-based acrylics, they work extremely well 👍👍
Hi Peter...
Another great video!
I assume you had to thin your paint? What ratio of paint to thinner did you use?
And I assume your paints are water based?
Thanks
Jason
Thanks Jason! No, the beauty of airless is that there’s generally no thinning needed - everything I’ve sprayed has been straight from the can. And yes, all water-based, I haven’t used solvent finishes in over a decade. 👍
hi Peter
My video clip is noted as 3 days ago?, good luck with the spraying, I enjoy the videos very much even though I am out contracting and making furniture myself in between hospital ops ,I'd rather do the cutting than being cut
Ian
Thanks Ian. Yes, the video was posted on Tuesday, but this is part one of a multi-part series that's been four months in the making - I do explain this in my "piece to camera" in the first minute of the video; this is day one, the sprayer happened to arrive on the day when I needed to paint something and these were my first attempts. It gets better 😆Part 2 out next Tuesday. Thanks again for the link to spray direct, I spoke with them before making the purchase, even if I did opt to buy elsewhere. 👍
I think there's no easy way to spray - airless is quick but you have to move fast, normal spray guns have a lot overspray and HVLP you usually have to thin a lot to get the paint to atomise. I'm experimenting with a Titan Focus 500 at the moment to see if it has the HVLP advantages without having to thin the paint. I'm keen to see the rest of this series. Cheers
Interesting - I wasn’t aware of the Titan Focus; let me know how you get on 👍
You're not doing anything wrong, it's just how those electric airless sprayers work. The spray is much more controllable with a compressed air spray gun. You might want to use a couple of low RPM fans with filter sheets on them to capture the paint mist.
Thanks. And yes, I have the fans, just haven’t hooked them up to anything yet - or at least, I hadn’t 4 months ago... 👍😬
BTW, I noticed (in this video) you did not create enough overlap between each pass of the gun. Your finish can appear quite "banded" if you don't blend each pass with an overlap.
Best regards
Peter
Nice. I have been looking at getting one of these and getting rid of compressor.
Thanks! Yes, definitely worth considering. More to come 👍
I'm lucky i guess to have a separate room for spraying but yes over spray gets everywhere, If you can reduce the pressure that helps,
Glad to see you got a dust mask,
Maybe try different types of paints, Pre-cat is the easiest, that's a 1 part part, there's a 2 part AC but the most hard wearing that gives a top quality finish is a 2 part PU, all dry hard to be able to sand in 20-30mins, a fan speeds that up, I use Symphony Coatings who will colour match any colour/brand you like. ,
Thanks! I don’t have water/waste in the workshop, so cleanup is always a bit of an issue - that’s why I’ve stuck with water-based, so far. This series has been four months in the making, and this is part 1 from day 1 - there’s lots more to come 👍👍
Yep water based is easier to clean up prob, the ones I've mentioned are solvent based so you'd have to check the gun for compatibility too, the PU thinners melts some plastics,
Did you try a gravity feed gun, they're easy to clean & control, Spraygunsdirect do some decent ANI ones that are a cheap £24, a good starting off point, but if you're going to buy a gun I'd recommend getting a Devilbiss FLG5 1.8mm nozzle, I've got half a dozen guns & the Devilbiss is the only one i really use now,
you've got a compressor, mine is only 50ltr, I've got a few vids of spraying & a couple of cleaning the gun if they're any help.
Only very occasionally, to cover screw or pin holes, do i spray small amounts in peoples houses because of the mess,
www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/index.php/sprayguns-parts/gravity-sprayguns.html
Thanks! My compressor’s tiny - I barely use it tbh - which is why I went with the airless, cordless; seemed like a neat, self-contained solution that would do a bit of everything, with really easy switching between paints/finishes. A decent chunk of this job is doing some painting at a customers house, so I needed something flexible, compact and portable 👍
Fair enough, a lot of joiners I've spoke to use a similar set-up to yours, I guess I'm a little old school n have been spraying a long time, I like to try new things but in this case because it's work I stick to what you know sort of thing 😉
Hi peter just wondering if you can use 2 pack paint with this. Thanks
Hi Stuart - not as far as I know, no. But worth checking with Graco, as I was only really interested in spraying water-based finishes, I didn’t do much research myself 👍👍
cordless tools are really greats.... but its sooooooo expensive .... and you need to make sure is fully charged ...yes its my dream to have all kind of cordless tools...
As a car sprayer, that seems a little too far away?
I'm sure you figured this out already Peter as this video is from day one. But in this particular video you are spraying with the tip / movement in the wrong direction. The tip guard is angled in line with the arc of the fan so you always move perpendicular to the guard direction. So in this video you have the tip guard horizontal so the spray pattern is at its widest on the horizontal plane. So the movement should be vertical.
I think one of the main issues with overspray in this situation is that you are spraying the individual pieces which means a lot of edges. The paint has the go somewhere when you spraying the edge and only half of it is hitting the piece. I always build my pieces bare and then spray them once built. Alot less outside edges and alot less overspray.
The other option is to catch that paint at the edges before it can go somewhere you dont want it too. Get a spray shield. There are plenty of Aluminium ones around, I have one and it does the job well, but I wish I had got the cardboard holders where you can just swap out the cardboard easily. The Aluminium ones get alot of build up which eventually lead to drips or having to scrape it off.
Card board one looks like this www.amazon.co.uk/750-Kraft-Paint-Shield-Holder/dp/B0065BCGCI]
Thanks. If you watch the video again you can see that the spray pattern is definitely vertical; I may be new to the Graco, but not totally new to spraying! 👍
I like the idea of it but the overspray worry’s me of over time how much paint you will wasting that’s my opinion anyways
Could you spray with a spray gun and air compressor from Lidl? I have these already but haven't tried yet, just cars. Haven't seen anyone spray with anything other than the electric gun
Never tried it. You need very height throughout (cfm) for spraying with a compressor. I think Keith Brown @ragnbonebrown has one videos on compressor spraying. 👍👍
Hello Peter, thanks for the video and first impressions. I have a cheapie Lidl Parkside mains sprayer which I use very occasionally but as I have Dewalt batteries I was curious to see what the Graco costs. Your amazon and Festool links didn’t work so I searched Amazon to find the Graco on for an eye watering £1100 ! Google search revealed them available for about £600 (or £500 on eBay), but at this price I am sticking to my Lidl Parkside. I’ve sprayed fence panels which didn’t overspray that much but not MDF panels - be interesting to see the comparison and whether a more expensive sprayer is really worth it?
Thanks. This is an old set of videos now, and I abandoned the Graco after having too many pump issues. Shame, as it had a lot of promise, but ultimately wasn’t reliable enough. I paid about £600 new for the UltraMax, and they’re still around that price now from eg spraydirect or brewers. I don’t spray any more, so I’ve no experience of current machines, I’m sorry. HTH Peter
Thanks @@10MinuteWorkshop, so the Google price is about right then. That's a lot of money to spend on a tool that you subsequently abandon due to issues with it. I have some large MDF panels to paint (been watching other videos of yours for tips) and was going to roller them but maybe I'll try spraying with the Parkside and see what the results are. Thanks for the quick response
Yes, but the Graco absolutely did the job that it was bought to do. Longer-term though, it failed spectacularly - most recently when I lent it to a pal, which really left him in a tight spot. If I ever get it back, I’ll pull it apart and see if I can find out what’s going on. 👍
1. Aren't there health and safety issues, particularly if you use solvents. I thought you're required to have an extraction system. Your mask looks a bit flimsy. 2. As an idea for a prog, might be an idea to match it up with a pressured system. Prices for kit, since the Graco is so expensive, are almost equivalent.
I haven’t used solvent-based paint for over a decade, and the mask is P3-rated with new filters, however ‘flimsy’ it may look 👍
Hi Peter have you thought about a spraying tent
Thanks, but it’s a non-starter given the size of the stuff I’ll be spraying 👍
ah! I think you need a bigger tent 🤣
hi, which nozzle did you or should you use so not to over endulge with the pain (excuse my spelling) :)
This is quite an old series, and the nozzle that came with the machine was faulty - I didn't discover this until after the job was complete because I was new to the system. I pretty much standardised on a 310 tip for everything. Airless sprayers have tips, not nozzles, btw. 👍
Fantastic video Peter. I've not used a sprayer myself, but the gentleman that painted my home had the job done in just one day. How in the world did you hurt your head now? It's great that you use your head in your Workshop, but that doesn't mean you have to pound nails with it... LOL! Many blessings!
Thanks! Video was from 4 months ago, head injury long healed! 👍
Oh my goodness! LOL! I'm thinking you poor guy!... I remember when your head was hurt... You already knew we were going to ask anyway so you explained... I'm thinking your healed and then you got smacked again! You're too funny!
The newer e-sprayer must be much better then these for years. Thankyou for demonstration.
Is that a brand Alfred? Never heard of it, and a google just throws up dust control systems for crops, so any info you could share would be appreciated. 👍
No, lol. Thats my shortform for electric sprayers. I plan to buy such a toy, because i have no compressor and i don't want a compressor. To loud.
You can buy low noise compressors these days, which are a lot less annoying on the ear. Axminster UK has a couple if you're in the UK of course.
Yes, of course. In Germany there are also some low noise compressors available. But he price...... uuuuh.
Great to be able to see what the overspray is really like in a small space, hopefully it reduces :). I've always been tempted by one those Graco sprayers so it would be good to see how long term usage is with one and its reliability as they are not the easier to find in the UK.
Festool talk group (link in the description) so the best price, I’ve found. Bought mine there 👍
Did you have to add anything to the paint before spraying to thin it down?
I can only tell you my experience with my own Graco sprayer but no you don't have to thin. Even trade paints which are much thicker than standard latex. It's one reason I switched from HVLP where I always had to thin.
Now I understand, Thank you
Yes, as Steve says, everything I’ve used has been straight from the can, no thinning or viscosity cups needed 👍
HVLP! Brother! Not in a shop that size though? 👍👍👍
Nope - HVLP not the answer, at least not the one I have 😂👍
Love mine. What size tip did you end up using?
Been using a 310 for pretty much everything, works really well. 👍
I use that as well. Someone told me they use a 110 with great result. But i cant get that in my part of the country. Great Video as always!!
Alaskan Awesomeness Thanks! Don’t think we can get that here either, smallest I’ve seen is a 208 👍
Where did you get the 310 tip from?
Tom Picked mine up from the Festool Talk Group store - link in the video description 👍👍
Hi Peter,
it seems, sometimes it's helfpul to read the manual . ;) I got a little electric BOSCH sprayer for about 90 €. Inserted was a little viscosity measurement. My first attempt was like yours, the shop was a mess. After measuring the viscosity, I thinned the paint with nearly 10%, reduced paint insert and presure and now I'm happy with the results and my shop.
give it a try!
Regards
Thanks Christian. No thinning required with airless sprayers - that’s all part of the appeal! And the manuals for this are about an inch thick - I’d still be reading it if I’d started 4 months ago lol, 👍
You've probably worked this one out already Peter, but try releasing the trigger before you get to the edge of the work.
No, you don't release the trigger until you have passed the edge of the work!
According to the auto subtitles, you’re name is now Pin Abelarde. I think you should run with that. Nicely medieval...
Pin Abelarde - I like that! Way better than Piers Midland, which is what my precious spell-checker always wanted to call me! 😂😂👍👍
Peter... u really need a dedicated spray booth... 😏
Interested in this subject tho... 🤗
You don’t need to tell me, lol! No space though, so you have to do what you can to get the job done. 👍
Peter..... have u thought of going HVLP or even LVLP which would greatly reduce overspray... I bought a hvlp compressor-driven gun recently for around €20 if I remember correctly.
I haven't had the time to test it out yet unfortunately Pete.... but they are supposed to be paint-frugal...
Also a makeshift booth in a corner with some 6mil poly might work ?? Or even just lay the poly out around the bench area in such a way as to catch the worst of the overspray 😞
Thanks Peter. This vid is day 1 in a 4-month long project, vids coming later in the series explain my reasons for going with airless, my previous experiences with hvlp (spoiler - overspray’s just as bad in a small space) and compressor- based sprayers. Some of the pieces I’m spraying are 3metres long so a ‘corner booth’ won’t cut it, unfortunately! 👍👍
Peter.... thanks for the reply.. 😎
Why the Dewalt Battery?
The Graco Ultra series use the DeWalt XR battery platform; DeWalt gets their batteries and chargers in the hands of potentially new users, Graco gets a solid and proven platform, and we the consumers get to consider bare DeWalt tools in future. Win, win, win 👍
Can you spray vernis airless?
Vernis? Varnish? Yes, if varnish, though I've never done it. 👍
When i seen the paint you scraped up i started to laugh sorry Peter ,prep work is the time consumer ,as you get better the less you really need to tape off ,looks great for the first time ,get a better gun HVLP, that one looks good for a hobbyist painting yard furniture ,box fan with furnace filter even tapped to it will grab most the over spray
Thanks Syd. No, the Graco’s definitely aimed at painting pros. No such thing as a ‘furnace fan’ this side of the world, sadly. I have a few fans but hadn’t got them together by the time his job started. More to come in this series 👍
Sorry, Peter, but that shaky camera around 3min almost made me sea-sick =(
Other than that - good video, thanks for sharing!
Well I did say it was going to be a loose vlog-style vid 😬👍
With social media comes a ridiculous amount of moaning.
Peter, Love your videos and I understand that you need expensive tools for your business. However, as an amateur, Festool and Graco paint sprayers are just out of my price bracket. Can you get back to the cheap tool/Festool videos as the Titans and other cheap makes are more than likely the ones I could only ever justify. Not to say though that I don't drool over the Domino cutter, but instead have to make do with a biscuit jointer in the sale from B&Q.
Richard, I do take your point, but if you look through the other comments there’s a lot of interest in these sprayers. I haven’t abandoned the Festool/cheap tool idea, just been kinda busy with that work stuff 👍
Any chance you could make this video 125 seconds longer? 🤭😂
Nope 😂👍
Hi Peter
Have a look at spray direct.co.uk they have most of the info that will address most of your problems in tip size settings etc
Thanks Ian. The guys at Festool Talk Group, who I bought my Graco from, were very helpful. Also, and not to labour the point, but this is a day 1 video from 4 months ago - I’ve ironed out a few things since then 😬👍👍
£650 to £700 wow. I'll stick with a foam roller for my single job. I suppose if your a tradesman you might see a return on investment.
It’s a decent chunk of money, but actually pretty reasonable for an airless sprayer - and it paid for itself on this one job. If I was buying again I’d go for the Ultra instead of the UltraMax and save £100.
Just what I was going to say!!! he dont mess around £650 just to 'try spraying'!!
Pistol Knight ‘Trying Airless’ really. And as I said, it was built into the costing on this particular job, so paid for already, basically. 👍👍
Obviously, you're not a professional painter!
Well, obviously - that’s what this series is about; someone who isn’t a professional painter taking on spraying for the first time, and following the journey from novice to mildly competent over the course of 5 months. As you can see from the title, this is Part 1; there’s 8 parts - it gets better 👍